My husband just walked in while I was watching this and he said “hey isn’t she on tiktok? With the little hands?!” … the way you have transitioned your content by channel is fantastic. You’re so articulate and interesting to watch!! Well done 👏👏
my husband was raised Mormon (mom) & Lutheran (step-dad). i was raised Catholic. He is also part Native American. We joke we got it all covered. Neither of us belong to any organized religion, but retain the morals & beliefs with how we live. The "Love one another as I have loved you" command.
❤ I have nothing directly against anyone of any religion. I love seeing the good it can do for people. I always appreciate those who realize the base of a religion is usually love and community and work on embodying that.
“I think everyone can believe in what they believe in, as long as nobody is getting harmed.” Kris you say that you’re only giving us a history lesson, but this is honestly a really healthy and respectful opinion to share and foster within your community.
I’m no longer a member but was raised and still respect when non members that talk about LDS and give a respectful understanding of the church’s teachings
the beginnings of her videos make me smile so happy because i have a skin disease and when she says,” you are beautiful..” ITS HITS DEEP BUT IN A GOOD GOOD GOOD WAY❤❤i luv u kris
I feel the exact same and like i respect the honesty and no attacking or anything. Like if people ask me questions I can answer but i know everything so it's hard to get into all the details but now I have a place to send them if they want a legit background
Being a non-mormom person that lives in Utah, it's crazy to see this show. I have a lot of Mormon friends and they are all so faithful and nice and clean. So I actually can't believe that this is happening. It's crazy what tiktok can do to people.
You are very correct. The majority of LDS are like that but as with everything there's always that small percentage that...... are backwards I guess I can't think of the correct word 😂
Thank you for pointing this out! 💖 I was born and raised in the church. I'm currently an inactive member (Meaning I still consider myself LDS but I don't actively participate by going to church or church functions.) My inactivity is primarily due to some issues I have with the culture, not the actual heart of the doctrine. I can attest that Utah and Idaho are considered over zealous and fixated on image to an unhealthy degree. Two of my sister-in-laws are from Utah and I can still see bits of that culture in there behavior even though both have moved out of Utah. Even so, most members are honest, faithful people doing the best they can to follow the doctrine and live wholesome lives. Still, it's nothing like what this show portrays. There are so many crazy stereotypes about the LDS church and so much misinformation out there. It often feels like the only portion that gets attention are, like @cinnamessinger said, a small percentage that just went off the deep end.
@@breerapp yes because information is actively being withheld from its members. Joseph smith married 14years olds… maybe do some research about early lds members dressing up as indigenous people(the indigenous decline when Utah was established) and killing pioneers ( non Mormon ones) and your precious white Native American prophets) 😭😭
I am a Christian and don't agree with Mormonism, but I really appreciated your approach to this and I actually really loved getting to know a bit more about the background of Mormonism!❤
Same I thought it was a very honest but respectful way to discuss a religion. I would say controversial religion but religion itself is controversial, but this respected the actual people in a way I’m really impressed by!
We might not agree with how some religions do things..or what they do..but if we want people to respect our religion or the lack of us being religious we need to respect their religion. I’m not religious..I’m spiritual and Wicca but I feel like as with anything if we want our religion to be respected we also need to be respectful of others💜🌙🖤
As a Mormon I really appreciate this comment. All of my best friends are Lutheran and they don’t agree with my religions but they still agree to learn about it so they can see what is true and fake. Some of the things that kris said are not all the way true but I appreciate you guys listening and putting your input on the topic. The show is about people who don’t actually follow our churches rules. If you have any questions feel free to ask.
I live in Utah and have a friend who is a social worker The FLDS have found a loophole where if they live in separate apartments, sister wife A can babysit sister wife Bs kids and get paid by the government to do so Edit: FLDS are not the same as LDS, I know. I’m formally LDS (baptized and all) and currently live on one of the Temple Streets in SLC. I know LDS don’t do this. The FLDS usually live in isolation and dress like they’re from little house on the prairie. They are usually abusive and have a weird culture where little boys compete against grown men for their cousins marriage. I am talking about the FLDS who live in places like Hiawatha or Lowa at least, the super isolated groups. They find ways to get into welfare unfairly
As a Member of the church if Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, i found the way she explained it very respectful. If anyone has any questions feel free to ask ❤️
I will say I do find it funny that even explaining it in the respectful manner that she did it’s inescapable to make it sound absolutely insane and unhinged.
Thank you for doing your research on the church before reviewing this! I appreciate the unbiased response and as a single lds mom rn I think it’s cool you went over everything before bashing or saying any opinions on the church or this show
@@caseyw.6550The reason OP brought up being a single mom is because a lot of people judge LDS single moms as not being "Mormon enough" because they either had premarital sex or got a divorce. There's a HUGE stigma against divorce, even if it's for valid reasons like infidelity or abuse, and huge pressure to get married if you get pregnant, which happens more often than they'd like to admit because they typically don't get very good sex ed.
Just another ex-Mormon adding to the appreciation about how you presented the LDS history. I actually served as a missionary for the LDS church and pretty much taught what you taught, even using a lot of the same images. (My mission ultimately started me on the path out of the Mormon church, but that's a whole long story.) I appreciate it when people just present facts about Mormonism, cause there's plenty controversial stuff about it without making shit up.
@@sinisterhug1394 As an exMo who attended a church in Salt Lake where a lot of exmos first landed the interesting thing I noticed is that there are a lot of reasons people leave that church. We have terminology to try to group it all together like "shelf breaking" but if you notice where it started or the straw that broke the camel's back it's often different for different people. There are lots of places where people can start to be bothered.
I just got home from an LDS mission and a very active member of the church and wanted to say your research was awesome, and you presented the history of the church very well!! Thank you for your kindness!
goomba? mb if im wrong, but i used to be online besties with a dude on discord a year or 2 ago with your pfp and ive never seen that photo outside of his pfp until now his user name used to be grumpy_goomba or shy_goomba etc he would change it pretty often so i always called him goomba, my user was ELORA but i kinda accidentally ghosted him bc my parents grounded me for talking to strangers online but now i have a new acct are you him sir?
California LDS here. I agree with all the above and big props to Kris for getting the majority of everything right while explaining the history of the church and beliefs!
Utah resident here from a LDS/Mormon family, I never knew anything about this at all. This sh*t is the worst of the “extremists”, it’s kind of like the Christian stereotype of being anti LGBTQ+ and generally being known as the Karens of religion.
Thank you so much for doing your research on the actual church. I'm not as much of a member anymore but still find peace with my family still in it. Love the video thank you ❤
This video is such gold when it comes to explaining a topic without shaming other people’s beliefs but still reminding us of facts that certain things are not cool (marrying underage, violence etc). And yet you kept it funny. Could feel that you really put a lot of effort on creating this content and Im super thankful as a viewer for it 😍
Thank you for doing your best to research the church. As a member it makes me feel respected. I’m glad you didn’t get mixed up with the splinter groups and the main church.
As an lds/mormon I appreciate that Kris did the research on the church ❤ Also just wanted to say that recently the prophet turned 100 years old which is just kinda cool
I always found it so weird that how the Brighamites are so obsessed with an old guy, who is completing out of touch with the world, running the church. It's really crazy.
I don't mine the religion but I mind Smith's marriages with underage girls and that the mormon religion puts all that stuff onto the children aswell. Religion should generally be practiced without kids at least the most of it. But indoctrinating children and teenagers is always wrong. Don't put religion on kids unless they express the wish to learn about it. And yes I don't mean mormons only but all religions.
@@julial.8887 i'm a mormon teen and have grown up in the church as a kid you just go to primary and sing church hymns and play fun little games and you don't really start studying the book of mormon and bible untill your a teeager
@@julial.8887so I would recommend you do a little research on this because as a member I completely understand how strange it sounds but he didn’t really have any relations with anyone underage and they weren’t really marriages in the truest sense of the word. Saints unscripted made a really good video on the subject :)
@@ayecarumba-v1k riiiiiiight. Of course they weren’t true marriages! He probably was only acting out of the kindness of his heart am I right? You sound like the Scientologists swearing David Miscaviges wife isn’t missing lol
I was really worried about this video just because of how many miss conceptions there are about the church. Honestly, not only am I grateful for the research that went into this video, but I'm also fascinated by hearing the history from someone who isn't a member.
Wake up yall Auntie Kris posted Also, since you're always complimenting us, You're smart You're brave You're inspirational You're funny You're intelligent You're Beautiful You're kind You're entertaining And you deserve the best ❤
As a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, (we prefer that name, because we worship Jesus Christ, and not Mormon), I thought you did an excellent job of being fair and explaining both sides in a sensitive way. I was pleasantly surprised. Love you!
Mormon will always be used because it's traditional and it's easier to say. I was born and raised in the church and literally everyone I know still says Mormon. I get why the 1st Pres wanted to change it because they were tired of hearing that Mormons aren't christian...but saying the whole name of the church every time just sounds pretentious to me.
I am a member of the LDS church. I want to say thank you for expounding on the church history at the beginning of the video before you got into the rest. There’s so many misconceptions about the church because of media sensationalism and half-truths that go unresearched. I love your videos and how you can see that you care about your research and telling the unbiased truth.
you can really tell just how much research and effort kris put into this video. while some minor details are wrong, this is still the most respectful and honest video i’ve seen on my religion not from another member of the church. i really appreciate the effort and respect.
YES!!! I literally laughed at the "Celestial Kingdom" picture with the Disney Castles and Wizard of Oz Emerald City and the flying unicorns! 😂 But I agree, Kris did a WONDERFUL job giving an unbiased description of the Church!
@selenophile5256 as a "Mormon Wife" myself, I would say: Swinging: It's definitely not normal, and it definitely goes against the fidelity teachings of the Church. Early marriage: While the average marriage ages in the Church is lower than the national average, 16 is not normal. 20s is normal (I got married at 26) Controlling husbands: There is nothing wrong with speaking out against controlling husbands, but the issue of having a controlling husband in the first place is not normal. The Church teaches about the roles of husband and wife being united together to lead and guide the family and to counsel together in all decisions and aspects. Will some say that these ladies are "normal Mormon wives", sure, but from my personal experience and other wives in my area, I would agree that they are not normal. It is all relative based on where you live/your own experiences/etc.
I really appreciate the time you took to actually research the church and its beliefs! I will say, as a Mormon myself, there is a very distinct cultural difference between Utah Mormons and those outside the “bubble” as I’ve heard it called. I grew up on the east coast, but had a lot of family in Utah that we would visit regularly and it was always strange to experience the differences. But yes, no body is perfect. Every organization has those people that take it to the extreme and it’s very unfortunate. I feel for the women who lost their childhood and/or are experiencing abuse. Neither of those situation are ok, whether or not they are condone by certain groups within the church or not.
I mean this respectfully.. I'm also LDS. I grew up all around the world, but have lived in Utah for my entire adult life. I honestly really don't like the perpetuation of the "Utah Mormon" stereotype, as if people outside of Utah are somehow living a more true gospel. Every location has its own quirks, but Utah members are just as great as any other members. People in all groups respond to the circumstances they are placed in, and Utah honestly has some of the most difficult for members (of all levels of activity). I think we need to stop talking like this. It gives off "America sucks" vibes from someone who grew up in the US but then did a summer abroad and thought it was so sophisticated but they actually didn't understand where they're from or where they visited fully. The church is true, and it is taught the same by the same converted Christians all around the globe. As President Nelson has recently said, we need to unify and remove any idea of -ites from among us ❤️ But as for your main point.. AMEN!
I think the Utah culture all has to do with the pride cycle. We can watch it being repeated today, especially reading 3 Nephi the past couple weeks. I know many members from Utah and I love them all dearly, but I also have heard them talk about the judgment and hypocrisy, which points back to the pride cycle.
@@cecynay7369what people are referring to is the culture that SOME live in Utah as opposed to following doctrine. They let old traditions get in the way of doctrine. It’s not every member in Utah, but there are quite a bit and they make people angry at us.
Thank you for being so respectful toward our faith! I’m LDS and it hurts a lot when people talk about us like we’re insane. We are just living life in the way that we feel is right, just like everyone else.
The amount of respect you have while describing the history of a religion you don't fully understand or believe in is so appreciated! And you did a fantastic job at saying names of places/people that are odd, btw. Edit: The 'Mormons don't call themselves Mormons anymore' thing is just that members of the church were asked to use the full name, in part because otherwise it removes the name of Christ and many people end up thinking the church isn't Christian. It's not really offensive when used though. I can say a lot of the show is not normal/doesn't follow teachings in the church. Swinging isn't normal, being a 'Saint' because you're in a first marriage isn't normal, being married at 16 is very not normal.
Well done, Kris!! Pronunciation: Moroni - mow - rone - eye Nauvhoo - naw - voo Adultery is against the 10 commandments, which is excommunication-worthy. Swinging is adultery and soft-swinging is still adultery.
I love how Kris was not disrespectful at all and took the time to understand not only LDS culture but also the history. I’ve seen too many videos about the show and the church that just have people throwing insults and lies out about the church. Thank you Kris for this thought out video, I always appreciate how in depth you go and the time you take to prepare these videos. ❤
My Aunt is one of the main girls on this show...I never knew that it would lead to Kris covering Utah and the LDS church but it's interesting to hear her take! 💀
I know one of the women on this show personally and she hasn’t considered herself “Mormon” or been active in the church since elementary/middle school (if you can even count a kid as being autonomously "active" in a church). They just use “Mormon” in their show for more views and controversy lol. It’s pretty disrespectful, but as a member of the LDS church, I guess it’s boosting their careers so good for them. Also, great research and video, Kris! I appreciate the honesty and consideration. Edit: this is one of the “saints” that Kris announced
It’s shocking how Women’s Magic Truths on Borlest isn’t being discussed. The book is full of life-changing insights, yet no one seems to notice. Time to break the trance and read it yourself!
This was very respectful like many people say. I’m finally out of the church. I personally believe it’s a cult and no one will change my mind because they have not gone through my experiences.
Hey Kris, I really appreciate that you keep things factual. I grew up LDS/Mormon and it always makes me sad when the religion and people get judged based on the history of the LDS church. So I was very on guard when you started talking about the history. But thank you for not being judgmental while giving your opinions and thoughts. I wouldn’t say I agree or believe everything with the church history either and have my own opinions about it. I also think that there can be vastly different cultures within the LDS church, especially in Utah. Between adjacent cities or even within different wards (different groups of people in the same area based on boundaries). So it’s not surprising that some people experience different things and agree or don’t agree with the portrayal of Mormons in the show. But again, thank you for your thoughts and opinions and making a factual and educational video 😊 I really enjoy you and your content! Edit: I agree, they go by LDS now, but I do still use Mormon as a term to describe the culture if that makes sense? LDS religion and members, but Mormon culture.
As members of the LDS church, we are suggested to use the real name of the church. As far as people that aren't members, we don't (or shouldn't) be offended if they continue to be call us Mormons. The emphasis on the name and the changing of the logo to the Christis is to emphasize that we are a Christian religion and that we don't worship Mormon or the angel Moroni
Ur uploading so much lately I love it ! Always remember tho if u need a break feel free to take one :) x love u sm and thankyou for these videos , they make my day
I love you so much Kris I can’t even lie. You have saved me in life so many times because I know you went through the same thing as I did. You, Celina, Colby and Sam saved me so much and you guys made me laugh when I was at my absolute rock bottom. I watch you everyday and that’s how I got back to where I am now, I was so close to not being here. Please keep doing your thing because you saved my life and I’m sure you’ve saved others to!❤
I'm so glad Kris is able to respect our beliefs, as a member of the church, I can say that since this show came out a lot of people have negative views of the church and just bash on it but instead Kris did her reasearch before hand and was respetful. I love you Kris!!!!
@@sleepy-ou2fm There is also a lot of misinformation being spread as well. I am lds myself, and I most definitely criticize many things about our church's culture especially in utah (I'm not from Utah nor did I grow up in utah), but as far as our doctrine goes, like any other church we are trying to be good people. People on UA-cam just enjoy the stigma.
@@Bellabirdtheoneandonly I agree, member here, and seeing someone who isn't affiliated at all trying her hardest to show our perspective and others is super great. There are many things I don't agree with that people say about our church(who are in the church), so I have to separate that in my head from what we actually believe in our fundamental church.
As a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, thank you for doing research about the Church and trying to remain fair and open minded. I haven't watched this show, but from what I have seen it is not even remotely accurate.
So I’m a member if the church and when I read the title of the video I wasn’t going to watch. However you did a pretty good job in the history section of the church. Thank you
*me watching as an LDS member who is living in Utah* 😃 Bravo on explaining a brief history of our church. Thank you for not calling us a cult. So many people do ☹️
I don't think LDS members are cultists, but that some members give off vibes. However, it is like that in all Christian based religions to me. I was not raised going to church, but went in college with my RA. I liked singing, the kind people, and the good messages. However, when I went, there was always a lady who would just sit and scream and scream when we would sing sometimes. It was so creepy. That is the vibe I mean.
I think this is the most clear representation of the LDS history I have seen. I appreciate that content before delving into the reality show of the Mormon wives. Brain rot 😂! Great video Kris!
I do not agree with the teaching of the. LDS, but I appreciate your fairness and lack of judgment when explaining LDS history and beliefs. Our constitution guarantees the freedom of religion, and that absolutely includes the LDS church.
As an LDS long term subscriber and viewer, I was very curious how you would do this video as soon as I saw it. Super happy with the factual just object way you share it. Like not demonizing us, but just saying that this is what we believe and this is the problems that people have with it etc... Pronunciation guide: Moroni- mow-row-n(eye) Urum- your-um Thumum- thumb-um Navoo- nah-voo(as in voo-doo) Deseret- dez-er-ret (not desert lol😂) Once again I love the way you presented this information 😊
I want to point something out about the age of marriage. Marriage at 18 is common but not 16. They can start dating at 16. But I've never heard of an LDS (inactive myself) getting married at 16. Also people who claim LDS but basically dont follow the teachings, are usually referred to as jack Mormons. I'm so happy you went over the history though
@@kjeracarroll450 just because it’s not the most common thing doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen. That’s like a catholic person hearing that a catholic girl got married at 16 and saying “oh she must not be a real catholic because WE don’t TYPICALLY get married at 16.” Pressure for teenagers who become pregnant to get married exists in strictly religious communities of ALL different kinds and you are simply ignorant or lying if you try to say that’s not the case.
I am a SLC native, not LDS… this video is so well done. Many ppl outside the state who try to explain the culture don’t get it right. Very impressed, thank you 🎉
Kris, I really appreciate the way you discussed the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. Lots of youtubers choose to focus on the different controversies surrounding the church whereas you just gave a basic history without choosing sides. As a lifelong member of the LDS church, I can tell you got your research from credible sources and not just anti-Mormon reddit threads. The history you gave is correct to my knowledge and again I appreciate it. A couple pronunciations of place-names and people were incorrect but I don’t blame you. Also, I would point out that the image showed as you described what goes on inside temples is very misleading and is not an accurate depiction of ordinances and covenants. Other than that, great job on this video! Thanks for spreading facts with your platform! ❤
@@HannahRainbow88while Alyssa has more hands-on experience with the Church having been a member, her views are very biased and she blatantly attacks the LDS faith. That’s her whole purpose on the internet, which is really sad. I just like Kris’ portrayal as she does not come from a “Mormon” background and included just a basic overview of our beliefs.
@@MRC11392 yes to both points: Kris did a great job staying neutral and reporting the facts after doing her research, which I appreciate... Alyssa, on the other hand; I can also understand her bias, as I was in a different religion's rogue sect in my teens 😬 It took me a long time to be able to be neutral about them (and forgive myself for being brainwashed) too.
@@HannahRainbow88 I agree, I understand where Alyssa is coming from. When someone has a bad experience with a religion, they have every right to speak up about it. I’m just saying that I don’t find her content great for introducing the Church as a whole as her own views shine through very prominently.
I really hope that LDS isn’t viewed as a cult. As some of the kindest people I know are apart of the LDS church. I am Methodist and while our beliefs cross, they are still some of the most loyal, and sweet friends I have. ❤️ the content Kris! Keep It up! (Can’t wait to go to the screening!! I’m a buffalo student!)
22:10 so yes, we do refer to ourselves as mormon sometimes because that’s just what we’ve been known by and called for so long, but technically the correct name or referral is LDS member, member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, or member of the LDS church. it was changed and we ask to be referred to as an LDS member because it just more accurately depicts what we believe and worship, but we’ll respond to both, we just prefer to be called LDS members. hope that makes sense and clears things up!
Oh my gosh! I'm LDS and I love how you described the history!!! The church has changed a lot and will never be perfect, but it has improved a lot. I love your content sooooo much and you are one of my favorite influencers because you arent judgmental and care about your fans🫶 if you see this tell celina i love her too!!!!!
I’m LDS and I love how you accurately explain the history of our church!! I do think the show is completely inaccurate in representing the LDS church. It’s complete brain rot.
hehe I'm RLDS, and I think there was definitely some issues with the history. Like Joseph Smith being a conman/treasure hunter, or the multiple "First Vision" stories.
@@harharharharharharharharha240thank you! We get the most hate! It's actually crazy 😅 I have talked to my parents and leaders in the church about it, and it makes sense. We believe we are the true church, which, Satan is trying his hardest to break us down because he knows it's coming close to the second coming
@@QuestArt16 OR.....Satan loves that church, after all it distorts and adds to the bible (which the bible prohibits specifically) which he is all there for. And you might just be getting a hard time for representing yourself as Christian when that is not true. Your beliefs depart SUBSTANTIALLY from the bible. And then there is the things you believe and how you are controlled which has allowed and supported people from your church completely going off the rails and doing horrible things. The beliefs of the church actually support that kind of thinking and behavior. That kind of cultivation of that thinking and behavior is a danger....to the membership, and to the public otherwise. But I get it, calling it the "true church" makes people feel like they are in some important, exclusive club which tends to shut up any further questions because you're stroking their ego, and blaming it on satan relieves everyone of any responsibility to investigate the why's. I'm surprised you weren't also told to put it on a shelf because it isn't for you to understand....or were you told that. Another convenient way to shut down questions. Cults are good that way.
Okay my respect for you just sky rocketed, as a member of the LDS church I really appreciated how you actually took the time to research our religion and talked about our beliefs without a hint of judgement or prejudice. Can't tell you how many horrible things have been said to me because people don't take the time to try to understand who we actually are and what we actually believe. Thank you ❤️
I really appreciate your very factual take on my religion! It’s a breath of fresh air honestly. It seems that so many people online are taking these women’s sayings and practices as truth which is very hurtful towards practicing members. I am about to head on my mission in a little over a week to Utah funnily enough. Again, thank you for looking at this with a very unbiased eye!
Ahh! Congrats on your mission call! And good luck! I agree with all this though. Its so refreshing to see someone who did research and doesn’t judge members.
Hey Kris! Just wanna let you know i love that you dyed your hair! Also I’ve been watching you for awhile and you’ve helped me get through quite a bit. Thanks for everything keep doing you, you’re awesome!
So, speaking as an openly queer LDS member, I do greatly appreciate the research done on the church. I feel like there are a lot of misconceptions about our religion and this reality show might mess up some stuff, too. So thank you so much Kris for shedding some light on Mormonism and the LDS church!❤
If you don't feel comfortable answering this, that's totally fine. But what is it like being queer in LDS? My bio-father's side of the family is Mormon (I don't know what branch) and I was just curious.
@@Ember_Esscence I feel like it usually depends on the church ward and the people in. There’s a lot of openly queer people in my ward and have helped me in my coming out and feeling supported, but my grandma is also LDS, and is not as supportive and still holds onto the hope that I’ll still be in a straight marriage. So I’d say it depends on the people in the ward and where they might stand on this subject. I’m just really lucky to be surrounded by supportive people.
Kris as someone who grew up in Utah, baptized in the LDS church and now as an adult am an atheist and will never return to Utah. This was so well said and put together. (Aside from a sprinkling of mispronouncing things that made me giggle lol) Usually these stories are sooooo boring but I found this absolutely interesting and intriguing!!
She DID HER RESEARCH!!! Kris, I respect you so enormously, you are such a beautiful, wonderful person, but this explanation so respectful of my church was great, thank you so much for presenting everything in a neutral and so informative way. I'm member of the LDS church (the OG ) and everything that Kris said is spotted on.
as an active member none of these women are actual members. which just makes it even more infuriating that now this is what so many people think the women of my church act like
It’s not up to you who qualifies as a member or not. If they identify as Mormon and haven’t been excommunicated, then I don’t see why random internet people who don’t even know them get to decide whether they’re truly members or not. It’s clear that they don’t follow all the rules, but no member is perfect and it’s wrong to judge them or disqualify them from trying to be a part of the religion.
The term "Mormon" was derived as a derogatory statement about members of the Church by the same people who violently opposed the Church. It also leads people to inaccurately assume that members of the Church worship Mormon and not Christ, hence the insistence on the name change.
Out of curiosity, why did the church use the term Mormon for such a long time then? They even spent a lot of money on their ‘I am a Mormon’ campaign; why did they do that if the term is derogatory?
👋 I am Mormon, I haven’t watched the show, but I enjoy your channel and wanted to hear your take on it. I appreciate the way you explained our faith. Thank you for taking the time to research the church and make this video. You’re awesome!❤
As someone who lives in Utah, I actually work with a guy who came from the Kingston clan. He is very obviously inbred and was born with 4 thumbs, he’s basically deaf as one ear doesn’t work at all and the other barely does. He’s actually quite open about it and no longer associates with them that I know of. Pretty good dude though
Kris, you did a fantastic job with the background explanation, especially for covering so much in about 15 minutes. It's very clear you did your research and were very respectful in your presentation of the background history. Considering how responses you saw to the show online suggested those behaviors it depicts are typical, I suspect this is yet another case of those in that subculture of Mormons affirming that, while those in the majority who do try to follow the teachings generally avoid this show and everything about it since they feel it doesn't represent them. As such, thank you for approaching this topic with all the effort you gave!
Ex-Mormon here. I'm making this comment at 14 minutes in. You have done a fantastic job of summarizing The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints for not being a member so far. I'm going to continue watching the rest, but I had to make this comment while it was in my head. Excellent job, KMK.
As a member of this church I'm glad she gave her respectful, unbiased view with accurate, researched information. I think Kris is the actual best youtuber to watch also
Active Latter-day Saint living in Utah here. Thanks for the respectful history at the beginning. Been enjoying your videos for a long time. I think it's important to state that these women are more representative of a subculture culture in utah and not the church itself. The culture of the members in this state has always been different from members elsewhere. And I wouldn't even say all of Utah. Mainly Salt Lake and Utah counties. I'm around the same age as these women and would hear about these "couples swinging parties" all the time in college. It still shocks me, not going to lie. That clip you shared of Taylor saying she's afraid to tell her bishop because she'll be "excommunicated" is 100% true. She would be. Excommunication isn't permanent, though. If someone wants to come back, they can. Just have to take the proper steps. I have family who has. Anyway, these women can claim to be "Mormon" all they want. The facts are most of them aren't living the actual values and standards of the church. But that's between them and God. Not my place to judge. ***sidenote: when you kept saying all these women look the same all I could think was "it's because the polygamy less than 200 years ago." We're all related in some way in this state lol
0:12 Chris, I belong to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. I want to say Thank You! You did a great job in retelling some of our history and respectfuly portraying some of our beliefs. I won't watch this show. I have never experienced any of the things some are talking about. But that doesn't mean others didn't. I just wanted to say great job and thank you.
@@Lkjhgf921lol regardless of what they do or what we think its none of our businesses its their religion like Chris said “everybody can believe what they wanna believe” its not a cult by that shouldn’t every religion be a cult
4:52 Is it terrible that I keep thinking of that one episode from South Park where(I think it’s Kyle, not totally sure) is becoming friends with a mormon kid and the kid is explaining this to him while Kris is explaining it to us. Lol
As someone who is Mormon, love the respect and thoughtfulness that went into this video!!! Actually funny comment from the beginning of the video, my aunt was actually married to one of the Lebaron brothers. Since it was during a time when women didn’t question their husbands she naively went along with it when her husband joined his brother’s cult. When her husband got a second wife who abused her kids and she was outcasted to a cockroach infested trailer, her husband told her she could leave, but only with her kids and what she could carry. She then made it back to Utah in the 70s with 4 kids, no income, etc. She luckily escaped and made it back and everything’s fine now, but she was likely on their hit list. That whole story is crazy to me.
We definitely don’t get married at 16 anymore. We’re discouraged from even dating before 16. Though getting married at 16 was common in the 1800s because that was the standard. (Sharing info, hope it doesn’t come off as judgy at all!) ❤
DONT WORRY im 14 and bro im not even aloud to date yet ahaahah let alone get married!!! im literally like all my other friends at school and tbh teh only big diffrence is no drinking and having coffe...
Also going to sound off and give props to Kris for the great history and faith summary of my faith. One of the best, fairest I have heard from a non-member. Thank you, Kris!
Lmao I saw the title (I am not big on social media so I have never heard of this show) and i immediately thought it was one of her CRIME, CONSPIRACY, MURDER shows😂
honestly i’d wait, cuz the information is fully out yet. Like we all know he’s Guilty, but in order to get a full complete narrative and avoid legal trouble, it’s best to wait until most the facts are out in public
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My husband just walked in while I was watching this and he said “hey isn’t she on tiktok? With the little hands?!” … the way you have transitioned your content by channel is fantastic. You’re so articulate and interesting to watch!! Well done 👏👏
My dad said that he said kmk? The comedian? With the baby hands? And I was like omg you know her?
my husband was raised Mormon (mom) & Lutheran (step-dad). i was raised Catholic. He is also part Native American. We joke we got it all covered. Neither of us belong to any organized religion, but retain the morals & beliefs with how we live. The "Love one another as I have loved you" command.
I attend mormon church bc of family but i dont consider myself mormon. I dont believe in their teachings
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You can only walk two paths in life: the good path and the bad path. If theres a God, thats all he cares about. ❤
I’m an ex Mormon and that is still one of my favorite sayings 🖤🖤
❤ I have nothing directly against anyone of any religion. I love seeing the good it can do for people.
I always appreciate those who realize the base of a religion is usually love and community and work on embodying that.
“I think everyone can believe in what they believe in, as long as nobody is getting harmed.”
Kris you say that you’re only giving us a history lesson, but this is honestly a really healthy and respectful opinion to share and foster within your community.
Many, many people have been harmed/hurt by religion
SO MANY people have been harmed by the Mormon ands LDS church
@@Lkjhgf921so long as you aren’t causing harm to anyone YOURSELF, it should not matter what your beliefs are.
@@Lkjhgf921thank you, this religion is nuts
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As a member of the church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints that was like crazy good for a 15 min summary of our religion
Right?? Came here to say this.
Agreed!!
I’m no longer a member but was raised and still respect when non members that talk about LDS and give a respectful understanding of the church’s teachings
Didn't it start in Austria or Germany ot something?
You can watch South Park they do a great great job of showing this exact story 😂
the beginnings of her videos make me smile so happy because i have a skin disease and when she says,” you are beautiful..” ITS HITS DEEP BUT IN A GOOD GOOD GOOD WAY❤❤i luv u kris
You are beautiful don't believe anyone that tells you any different
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As a current member I’m actually really grateful for the proper and correct research you did Kris very grateful ❤
Same 😊
Same! It’s so nice to be able to watch someone talk about the church and be respectful.
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Yikes. Leave while you can.
I feel the exact same and like i respect the honesty and no attacking or anything. Like if people ask me questions I can answer but i know everything so it's hard to get into all the details but now I have a place to send them if they want a legit background
Being a non-mormom person that lives in Utah, it's crazy to see this show. I have a lot of Mormon friends and they are all so faithful and nice and clean. So I actually can't believe that this is happening. It's crazy what tiktok can do to people.
You are very correct. The majority of LDS are like that but as with everything there's always that small percentage that...... are backwards I guess I can't think of the correct word 😂
Thank you for pointing this out! 💖
I was born and raised in the church. I'm currently an inactive member (Meaning I still consider myself LDS but I don't actively participate by going to church or church functions.) My inactivity is primarily due to some issues I have with the culture, not the actual heart of the doctrine. I can attest that Utah and Idaho are considered over zealous and fixated on image to an unhealthy degree. Two of my sister-in-laws are from Utah and I can still see bits of that culture in there behavior even though both have moved out of Utah. Even so, most members are honest, faithful people doing the best they can to follow the doctrine and live wholesome lives. Still, it's nothing like what this show portrays.
There are so many crazy stereotypes about the LDS church and so much misinformation out there. It often feels like the only portion that gets attention are, like @cinnamessinger said, a small percentage that just went off the deep end.
As if TikTok is responsible for this.
@@breerapp Yep, that is why I will never move to Utah or Idaho 💀
I'd be the main character from Single's Ward before you know it, lol 😂
@@breerapp yes because information is actively being withheld from its members. Joseph smith married 14years olds… maybe do some research about early lds members dressing up as indigenous people(the indigenous decline when Utah was established) and killing pioneers ( non Mormon ones) and your precious white Native American prophets) 😭😭
I am a Christian and don't agree with Mormonism, but I really appreciated your approach to this and I actually really loved getting to know a bit more about the background of Mormonism!❤
Same I thought it was a very honest but respectful way to discuss a religion. I would say controversial religion but religion itself is controversial, but this respected the actual people in a way I’m really impressed by!
We might not agree with how some religions do things..or what they do..but if we want people to respect our religion or the lack of us being religious we need to respect their religion. I’m not religious..I’m spiritual and Wicca but I feel like as with anything if we want our religion to be respected we also need to be respectful of others💜🌙🖤
@@heathermarriette-ny1fyamen!!!
@@kjeracarroll450 that’s just how it is. You want respect you have to give it
As a Mormon I really appreciate this comment. All of my best friends are Lutheran and they don’t agree with my religions but they still agree to learn about it so they can see what is true and fake. Some of the things that kris said are not all the way true but I appreciate you guys listening and putting your input on the topic. The show is about people who don’t actually follow our churches rules. If you have any questions feel free to ask.
I live in Utah and have a friend who is a social worker
The FLDS have found a loophole where if they live in separate apartments, sister wife A can babysit sister wife Bs kids and get paid by the government to do so
Edit: FLDS are not the same as LDS, I know. I’m formally LDS (baptized and all) and currently live on one of the Temple Streets in SLC. I know LDS don’t do this.
The FLDS usually live in isolation and dress like they’re from little house on the prairie. They are usually abusive and have a weird culture where little boys compete against grown men for their cousins marriage.
I am talking about the FLDS who live in places like Hiawatha or Lowa at least, the super isolated groups. They find ways to get into welfare unfairly
just to clarify. FLDS and the LDS are not the same people. :) Different beliefs.
Omgosh.
@@whysnana Pretty much the same except polygamy.
@@annwood6812 and that is exactly why they are not the same.
@@annwood6812Great display of ignorance.
As a Member of the church if Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, i found the way she explained it very respectful. If anyone has any questions feel free to ask ❤️
Came here to say this. Have listened to many others "summarize" the LDS church and I was so surprised and how clear and thoughtfully she presented it!
@@chelseamccort6212 agreed!
I will say I do find it funny that even explaining it in the respectful manner that she did it’s inescapable to make it sound absolutely insane and unhinged.
I have only heard bad things about the church that you are a part of. What are some good things about it?
Thank you for doing your research on the church before reviewing this! I appreciate the unbiased response and as a single lds mom rn I think it’s cool you went over everything before bashing or saying any opinions on the church or this show
Single LDS mom as well. I don't want to watch the show so I appreciate your comment!😅
Yall in a cult. Truly delulu behavior.
The way yall can listen to that summary and still believe it sounds legit is WILD. Oh, I'm also a single mom...and?
Same girl🎉❤
@@caseyw.6550The reason OP brought up being a single mom is because a lot of people judge LDS single moms as not being "Mormon enough" because they either had premarital sex or got a divorce. There's a HUGE stigma against divorce, even if it's for valid reasons like infidelity or abuse, and huge pressure to get married if you get pregnant, which happens more often than they'd like to admit because they typically don't get very good sex ed.
Just another ex-Mormon adding to the appreciation about how you presented the LDS history. I actually served as a missionary for the LDS church and pretty much taught what you taught, even using a lot of the same images. (My mission ultimately started me on the path out of the Mormon church, but that's a whole long story.) I appreciate it when people just present facts about Mormonism, cause there's plenty controversial stuff about it without making shit up.
So I’m EX-MO myself, but what was your “I’m done” moment, in the church? 🤔
I am curious, what caused you to leave
That AI baptism for the dead was metal. lol
Mormonism is such a complex religion it's hard to explain
@@sinisterhug1394 As an exMo who attended a church in Salt Lake where a lot of exmos first landed the interesting thing I noticed is that there are a lot of reasons people leave that church. We have terminology to try to group it all together like "shelf breaking" but if you notice where it started or the straw that broke the camel's back it's often different for different people. There are lots of places where people can start to be bothered.
I just got home from an LDS mission and a very active member of the church and wanted to say your research was awesome, and you presented the history of the church very well!! Thank you for your kindness!
I find it really funny how Kris has just slowly become just a pure true crime/ just a commentary channel with longer styled videos now. I love it.
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goomba? mb if im wrong, but i used to be online besties with a dude on discord a year or 2 ago with your pfp and ive never seen that photo outside of his pfp until now his user name used to be grumpy_goomba or shy_goomba etc he would change it pretty often so i always called him goomba, my user was ELORA but i kinda accidentally ghosted him bc my parents grounded me for talking to strangers online but now i have a new acct are you him sir?
Many of these stereotypes are Utah things, not mormon things. I am a member of the church in Romania and I honestly can't relate.
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Agree. I grew up on the east coast
Kansas, and can't relate. Def a different breed in Utah.
California LDS here. I agree with all the above and big props to Kris for getting the majority of everything right while explaining the history of the church and beliefs!
crazy how a guy with a religious psychosis started a cult y’all are still in
Utah resident here from a LDS/Mormon family, I never knew anything about this at all. This sh*t is the worst of the “extremists”, it’s kind of like the Christian stereotype of being anti LGBTQ+ and generally being known as the Karens of religion.
Thank you so much for doing your research on the actual church. I'm not as much of a member anymore but still find peace with my family still in it. Love the video thank you ❤
This video is such gold when it comes to explaining a topic without shaming other people’s beliefs but still reminding us of facts that certain things are not cool (marrying underage, violence etc). And yet you kept it funny. Could feel that you really put a lot of effort on creating this content and Im super thankful as a viewer for it 😍
Thank you for doing your best to research the church. As a member it makes me feel respected. I’m glad you didn’t get mixed up with the splinter groups and the main church.
I was just thinking the same thing! I’m a member and she was so clear about the history and the off shoot groups. Good job Kris! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
I did giggle at some of the pronunciations of some words. Lol
It’s also sad that that TV show was not even remotely accurate and it makes people believe horrible stuff about us. God bless you, brother.
As an lds/mormon I appreciate that Kris did the research on the church ❤
Also just wanted to say that recently the prophet turned 100 years old which is just kinda cool
I always found it so weird that how the Brighamites are so obsessed with an old guy, who is completing out of touch with the world, running the church. It's really crazy.
I don't mine the religion but I mind Smith's marriages with underage girls and that the mormon religion puts all that stuff onto the children aswell. Religion should generally be practiced without kids at least the most of it. But indoctrinating children and teenagers is always wrong. Don't put religion on kids unless they express the wish to learn about it. And yes I don't mean mormons only but all religions.
@@julial.8887 i'm a mormon teen and have grown up in the church as a kid you just go to primary and sing church hymns and play fun little games and you don't really start studying the book of mormon and bible untill your a teeager
@@julial.8887so I would recommend you do a little research on this because as a member I completely understand how strange it sounds but he didn’t really have any relations with anyone underage and they weren’t really marriages in the truest sense of the word. Saints unscripted made a really good video on the subject :)
@@ayecarumba-v1k riiiiiiight. Of course they weren’t true marriages! He probably was only acting out of the kindness of his heart am I right? You sound like the Scientologists swearing David Miscaviges wife isn’t missing lol
As A Member of the LDS Church I completely respect the research and effort put into this video! Thank you for this! 🙏
I also am Mormon, and I also respect the research that was done.
Yeah, honestly that was a great synopsis.
I’m also a morman and I love that she put the resurch in
I was really worried about this video just because of how many miss conceptions there are about the church. Honestly, not only am I grateful for the research that went into this video, but I'm also fascinated by hearing the history from someone who isn't a member.
Same
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As a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, (we prefer that name, because we worship Jesus Christ, and not Mormon), I thought you did an excellent job of being fair and explaining both sides in a sensitive way. I was pleasantly surprised. Love you!
Oh that’s good! I’m always scared and concerned when I see people talk about us 😅
Mormon will always be used because it's traditional and it's easier to say. I was born and raised in the church and literally everyone I know still says Mormon. I get why the 1st Pres wanted to change it because they were tired of hearing that Mormons aren't christian...but saying the whole name of the church every time just sounds pretentious to me.
But you do call it the "Mormon Tabernacle Choir" do you not?
@@jpeters0625not anymore. It’s the Tabernacle Choir at Temple Square now 😊
@@jpeters0625 Actually no. The name was changed. It's the Tabernacle Choir.
I am a member of the LDS church. I want to say thank you for expounding on the church history at the beginning of the video before you got into the rest. There’s so many misconceptions about the church because of media sensationalism and half-truths that go unresearched. I love your videos and how you can see that you care about your research and telling the unbiased truth.
you can really tell just how much research and effort kris put into this video. while some minor details are wrong, this is still the most respectful and honest video i’ve seen on my religion not from another member of the church. i really appreciate the effort and respect.
Other than the flying unicorns, your recap is pretty accurate. And those ladies are not normal Mormon wives.
YES!!! I literally laughed at the "Celestial Kingdom" picture with the Disney Castles and Wizard of Oz Emerald City and the flying unicorns! 😂
But I agree, Kris did a WONDERFUL job giving an unbiased description of the Church!
Normality doesn’t exist. This is their normal and Mormons look different everywhere you go
@@lindsaymontoya9899 I was wondering why there are flying unicorns in heaven. Honestly though, where else would they be?
What makes them not normal Mormon wives ?
The swinging, the early marriages or them being being against controlling husband's ??
@selenophile5256 as a "Mormon Wife" myself, I would say:
Swinging: It's definitely not normal, and it definitely goes against the fidelity teachings of the Church.
Early marriage: While the average marriage ages in the Church is lower than the national average, 16 is not normal. 20s is normal (I got married at 26)
Controlling husbands: There is nothing wrong with speaking out against controlling husbands, but the issue of having a controlling husband in the first place is not normal. The Church teaches about the roles of husband and wife being united together to lead and guide the family and to counsel together in all decisions and aspects.
Will some say that these ladies are "normal Mormon wives", sure, but from my personal experience and other wives in my area, I would agree that they are not normal. It is all relative based on where you live/your own experiences/etc.
I really appreciate the time you took to actually research the church and its beliefs! I will say, as a Mormon myself, there is a very distinct cultural difference between Utah Mormons and those outside the “bubble” as I’ve heard it called. I grew up on the east coast, but had a lot of family in Utah that we would visit regularly and it was always strange to experience the differences.
But yes, no body is perfect. Every organization has those people that take it to the extreme and it’s very unfortunate. I feel for the women who lost their childhood and/or are experiencing abuse. Neither of those situation are ok, whether or not they are condone by certain groups within the church or not.
I mean this respectfully..
I'm also LDS. I grew up all around the world, but have lived in Utah for my entire adult life. I honestly really don't like the perpetuation of the "Utah Mormon" stereotype, as if people outside of Utah are somehow living a more true gospel. Every location has its own quirks, but Utah members are just as great as any other members. People in all groups respond to the circumstances they are placed in, and Utah honestly has some of the most difficult for members (of all levels of activity). I think we need to stop talking like this. It gives off "America sucks" vibes from someone who grew up in the US but then did a summer abroad and thought it was so sophisticated but they actually didn't understand where they're from or where they visited fully.
The church is true, and it is taught the same by the same converted Christians all around the globe. As President Nelson has recently said, we need to unify and remove any idea of -ites from among us ❤️
But as for your main point.. AMEN!
I think the Utah culture all has to do with the pride cycle. We can watch it being repeated today, especially reading 3 Nephi the past couple weeks. I know many members from Utah and I love them all dearly, but I also have heard them talk about the judgment and hypocrisy, which points back to the pride cycle.
Agreed!
@@cecynay7369what people are referring to is the culture that SOME live in Utah as opposed to following doctrine. They let old traditions get in the way of doctrine. It’s not every member in Utah, but there are quite a bit and they make people angry at us.
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Thank you for being so respectful toward our faith! I’m LDS and it hurts a lot when people talk about us like we’re insane. We are just living life in the way that we feel is right, just like everyone else.
The amount of respect you have while describing the history of a religion you don't fully understand or believe in is so appreciated!
And you did a fantastic job at saying names of places/people that are odd, btw.
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The 'Mormons don't call themselves Mormons anymore' thing is just that members of the church were asked to use the full name, in part because otherwise it removes the name of Christ and many people end up thinking the church isn't Christian. It's not really offensive when used though.
I can say a lot of the show is not normal/doesn't follow teachings in the church. Swinging isn't normal, being a 'Saint' because you're in a first marriage isn't normal, being married at 16 is very not normal.
It's a cult. It meets every aspect of that definition. Joseph Smith was Jim Jones, just in another time and place.
It's not christian, Christianity is a relationship, Mormonism is a religion
Well done, Kris!!
Pronunciation:
Moroni - mow - rone - eye
Nauvhoo - naw - voo
Adultery is against the 10 commandments, which is excommunication-worthy. Swinging is adultery and soft-swinging is still adultery.
🤷🏼♀️people make up their own rules
Thank you for explaining the names of Moroni and Nauvoo. As they can be hard to explain to someone not a member of the Mormon church.
The church doesnt excommunicate as much as they used too.
I love how Kris was not disrespectful at all and took the time to understand not only LDS culture but also the history. I’ve seen too many videos about the show and the church that just have people throwing insults and lies out about the church. Thank you Kris for this thought out video, I always appreciate how in depth you go and the time you take to prepare these videos. ❤
My Aunt is one of the main girls on this show...I never knew that it would lead to Kris covering Utah and the LDS church but it's interesting to hear her take! 💀
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@@Maddie-16 Uhhh for controversial reasons imma keep that to myself 🙂↕️ but y'all are free to guess!
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Is it Frankie?
I know one of the women on this show personally and she hasn’t considered herself “Mormon” or been active in the church since elementary/middle school (if you can even count a kid as being autonomously "active" in a church). They just use “Mormon” in their show for more views and controversy lol. It’s pretty disrespectful, but as a member of the LDS church, I guess it’s boosting their careers so good for them.
Also, great research and video, Kris! I appreciate the honesty and consideration.
Edit: this is one of the “saints” that Kris announced
The term Mormon has only been vilified since 2018. Joseph Smith used the term.
The "Mormon" bit is pretty much just clickbait.
AGREED, no active mormon would dare act like this. They would most definitely be excommunicated.
It’s shocking how Women’s Magic Truths on Borlest isn’t being discussed. The book is full of life-changing insights, yet no one seems to notice. Time to break the trance and read it yourself!
The what? (if something is shocking, I have to ask, if you don't mind). I'm from Europe and I have never heard about this.
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This was very respectful like many people say. I’m finally out of the church. I personally believe it’s a cult and no one will change my mind because they have not gone through my experiences.
Hey Kris, I really appreciate that you keep things factual. I grew up LDS/Mormon and it always makes me sad when the religion and people get judged based on the history of the LDS church. So I was very on guard when you started talking about the history. But thank you for not being judgmental while giving your opinions and thoughts. I wouldn’t say I agree or believe everything with the church history either and have my own opinions about it. I also think that there can be vastly different cultures within the LDS church, especially in Utah. Between adjacent cities or even within different wards (different groups of people in the same area based on boundaries). So it’s not surprising that some people experience different things and agree or don’t agree with the portrayal of Mormons in the show. But again, thank you for your thoughts and opinions and making a factual and educational video 😊 I really enjoy you and your content!
Edit: I agree, they go by LDS now, but I do still use Mormon as a term to describe the culture if that makes sense? LDS religion and members, but Mormon culture.
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Same
Me as well
As members of the LDS church, we are suggested to use the real name of the church. As far as people that aren't members, we don't (or shouldn't) be offended if they continue to be call us Mormons. The emphasis on the name and the changing of the logo to the Christis is to emphasize that we are a Christian religion and that we don't worship Mormon or the angel Moroni
Also, I'm grateful as well that the history was factual and there is some grace given, instead of the usual screw Mormons stance right off the bat
Ur uploading so much lately I love it ! Always remember tho if u need a break feel free to take one :) x love u sm and thankyou for these videos , they make my day
I love you so much Kris I can’t even lie. You have saved me in life so many times because I know you went through the same thing as I did. You, Celina, Colby and Sam saved me so much and you guys made me laugh when I was at my absolute rock bottom. I watch you everyday and that’s how I got back to where I am now, I was so close to not being here. Please keep doing your thing because you saved my life and I’m sure you’ve saved others to!❤
I'm so glad Kris is able to respect our beliefs, as a member of the church, I can say that since this show came out a lot of people have negative views of the church and just bash on it but instead Kris did her reasearch before hand and was respetful. I love you Kris!!!!
@@audreyspence9832 now careful it’s not just bashing there is also extremely valid criticism..
How can any woman be a part of a clearly misogynistic and oppressive religion? It's all just brainwashing bs
@@sleepy-ou2fm There is also a lot of misinformation being spread as well. I am lds myself, and I most definitely criticize many things about our church's culture especially in utah (I'm not from Utah nor did I grow up in utah), but as far as our doctrine goes, like any other church we are trying to be good people. People on UA-cam just enjoy the stigma.
At the end of the day, it's a cult. It has every element of a cult. Mormons are, on the inside, miserable people because of that very real fact.
@@Bellabirdtheoneandonly I agree, member here, and seeing someone who isn't affiliated at all trying her hardest to show our perspective and others is super great. There are many things I don't agree with that people say about our church(who are in the church), so I have to separate that in my head from what we actually believe in our fundamental church.
As a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, thank you for doing research about the Church and trying to remain fair and open minded. I haven't watched this show, but from what I have seen it is not even remotely accurate.
YES BRO SOMEONE WHO SPEAKS TRUE FACT IM AM A LDS MEMBER TOO AND GOD BLESS YOU BROTHER/SISTER
I feel so seen RN I may cry lol
My exact thoughts! This show is just a big mess! 😂
@@ITzEthan05 fr tho😂😂
Not gonna watch the show then.
So I’m a member if the church and when I read the title of the video I wasn’t going to watch. However you did a pretty good job in the history section of the church. Thank you
Exactly! Kris did a great job!
Yeah same I was going to just avoid this video but took a look at the comments and was glad to see she covered the history well.
Same! I was scared at first, but gave it a try and was pleasantly surprised.
Ewe
Yeah she did a great job
*me watching as an LDS member who is living in Utah* 😃 Bravo on explaining a brief history of our church. Thank you for not calling us a cult. So many people do ☹️
I don't think LDS members are cultists, but that some members give off vibes. However, it is like that in all Christian based religions to me. I was not raised going to church, but went in college with my RA. I liked singing, the kind people, and the good messages. However, when I went, there was always a lady who would just sit and scream and scream when we would sing sometimes. It was so creepy. That is the vibe I mean.
@@katielouwho888 I totally get what you mean. Yeah I feel like every congregation has a loud lady singer 😂
Thank you for the respectful way you talked about the LDS church. As a practicing member, it's very much appreciated.
I’d never thought I’d see Kris covering the history of my religion lol 😂😅😂😂❤
I think this is the most clear representation of the LDS history I have seen. I appreciate that content before delving into the reality show of the Mormon wives. Brain rot 😂! Great video Kris!
I do not agree with the teaching of the. LDS, but I appreciate your fairness and lack of judgment when explaining LDS history and beliefs. Our constitution guarantees the freedom of religion, and that absolutely includes the LDS church.
Love you too, babe...
Just keep all religious beliefs OUT of our government.
so real, i love the respectfulness during the history and overview. i personally do not agree with the teachings either.
As an LDS long term subscriber and viewer, I was very curious how you would do this video as soon as I saw it. Super happy with the factual just object way you share it. Like not demonizing us, but just saying that this is what we believe and this is the problems that people have with it etc...
Pronunciation guide:
Moroni- mow-row-n(eye)
Urum- your-um
Thumum- thumb-um
Navoo- nah-voo(as in voo-doo)
Deseret- dez-er-ret (not desert lol😂)
Once again I love the way you presented this information 😊
I’m LDS and your picture for baptisms for the dead is hilarious to me.
Haha i know i almost spat my drink out 🤣
I choked on my lunch it's amazing
Ikr!! Some people believe we actually take dead bodies and baptize them 😬
@@Ian-yw8fc haha yeah it's very... elaborate
😂 my thought was "Jay, seriously?!"
I want to point something out about the age of marriage. Marriage at 18 is common but not 16. They can start dating at 16. But I've never heard of an LDS (inactive myself) getting married at 16. Also people who claim LDS but basically dont follow the teachings, are usually referred to as jack Mormons. I'm so happy you went over the history though
I think she was referring to one of the splintered off groups for the age of 16 marriage. But yeah we don’t get married at 16. We start dating at 16.
Yes but at the same time in Utah, you just need a parents signature to get married at 16 or 17😅
@@milanwhite3630not just Utah. A lot of states have this as a law.
@@kjeracarroll450 Yeah the spinoff groups marry girls asap to keep them from becoming independent
@@kjeracarroll450 just because it’s not the most common thing doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen. That’s like a catholic person hearing that a catholic girl got married at 16 and saying “oh she must not be a real catholic because WE don’t TYPICALLY get married at 16.” Pressure for teenagers who become pregnant to get married exists in strictly religious communities of ALL different kinds and you are simply ignorant or lying if you try to say that’s not the case.
im lds/ mormon and this show does not show how mormons actually act, but i love how kris did this!!!!! ✨️
I am a SLC native, not LDS… this video is so well done. Many ppl outside the state who try to explain the culture don’t get it right. Very impressed, thank you 🎉
Kris, I really appreciate the way you discussed the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. Lots of youtubers choose to focus on the different controversies surrounding the church whereas you just gave a basic history without choosing sides. As a lifelong member of the LDS church, I can tell you got your research from credible sources and not just anti-Mormon reddit threads. The history you gave is correct to my knowledge and again I appreciate it. A couple pronunciations of place-names and people were incorrect but I don’t blame you. Also, I would point out that the image showed as you described what goes on inside temples is very misleading and is not an accurate depiction of ordinances and covenants. Other than that, great job on this video! Thanks for spreading facts with your platform! ❤
Right the baptisms for the dead photo had me laughing soo hard. The misunderstanding.
I learned about that stuff from Alyssa Grenfell's channel 🤷♀️
@@HannahRainbow88while Alyssa has more hands-on experience with the Church having been a member, her views are very biased and she blatantly attacks the LDS faith. That’s her whole purpose on the internet, which is really sad. I just like Kris’ portrayal as she does not come from a “Mormon” background and included just a basic overview of our beliefs.
@@MRC11392 yes to both points: Kris did a great job staying neutral and reporting the facts after doing her research, which I appreciate... Alyssa, on the other hand; I can also understand her bias, as I was in a different religion's rogue sect in my teens 😬 It took me a long time to be able to be neutral about them (and forgive myself for being brainwashed) too.
@@HannahRainbow88 I agree, I understand where Alyssa is coming from. When someone has a bad experience with a religion, they have every right to speak up about it. I’m just saying that I don’t find her content great for introducing the Church as a whole as her own views shine through very prominently.
I really hope that LDS isn’t viewed as a cult. As some of the kindest people I know are apart of the LDS church.
I am Methodist and while our beliefs cross, they are still some of the most loyal, and sweet friends I have.
❤️ the content Kris! Keep It up!
(Can’t wait to go to the screening!! I’m a buffalo student!)
It’s just the show and it’s following that I’m talking about as a “cult” but it’s just a joke! I know plenty of lovely mormons ❤️
I don’t think you would see it as a cult Kris! You are a wonderful person who does a lot for their community! ❤️
It’s not a cult until you live in Utah…
@@PHANTUMDUMPER I lived in Vegas for a long time and the stuff that you would hear about what was going on in Utah was wild.
@@PHANTUMDUMPER I lived in Vegas for a long time and the stuff that you would hear about what was going on in Utah was wild.
22:10 so yes, we do refer to ourselves as mormon sometimes because that’s just what we’ve been known by and called for so long, but technically the correct name or referral is LDS member, member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, or member of the LDS church. it was changed and we ask to be referred to as an LDS member because it just more accurately depicts what we believe and worship, but we’ll respond to both, we just prefer to be called LDS members. hope that makes sense and clears things up!
Or, you don't like the connotations around the term, Mormons. Misogyny, polygamy, paedophilia disguised as 'arranged marriages'.
So basically, stop dead naming them LDS folks already! 🤣
@@dagazrune6453 oh! that, that works too. i guess🤣
the deadnaming and calling us LDS folks i guess isn’t inaccurate either lol
Thank you so much Kris for being so respectful of us!
who loves kris’s new hair
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0:13 not the right video...😅
I literally almost spit out my drink laughing at that. And immediately paused and searched the comments for someone else who got a kick out of it. 😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂that took me outttt
I died when she said that.
As a member of the church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, I truly am grateful for you mentioning us :)
When Kris says "hey I don't make the rules" she sounds JUST LIKE BEETLEJUICE I love it!!
Oh my gosh! I'm LDS and I love how you described the history!!! The church has changed a lot and will never be perfect, but it has improved a lot. I love your content sooooo much and you are one of my favorite influencers because you arent judgmental and care about your fans🫶 if you see this tell celina i love her too!!!!!
Who loves when kris compliments us. Please never stop compliments us❤❤
I’m LDS and I love how you accurately explain the history of our church!! I do think the show is completely inaccurate in representing the LDS church. It’s complete brain rot.
hehe I'm RLDS, and I think there was definitely some issues with the history. Like Joseph Smith being a conman/treasure hunter, or the multiple "First Vision" stories.
I’m also LDS!!
I am not mormon but you guys get hated on so much for some reason it’s sad
@@harharharharharharharharha240thank you! We get the most hate! It's actually crazy 😅
I have talked to my parents and leaders in the church about it, and it makes sense. We believe we are the true church, which, Satan is trying his hardest to break us down because he knows it's coming close to the second coming
@@QuestArt16 OR.....Satan loves that church, after all it distorts and adds to the bible (which the bible prohibits specifically) which he is all there for. And you might just be getting a hard time for representing yourself as Christian when that is not true. Your beliefs depart SUBSTANTIALLY from the bible. And then there is the things you believe and how you are controlled which has allowed and supported people from your church completely going off the rails and doing horrible things. The beliefs of the church actually support that kind of thinking and behavior. That kind of cultivation of that thinking and behavior is a danger....to the membership, and to the public otherwise.
But I get it, calling it the "true church" makes people feel like they are in some important, exclusive club which tends to shut up any further questions because you're stroking their ego, and blaming it on satan relieves everyone of any responsibility to investigate the why's. I'm surprised you weren't also told to put it on a shelf because it isn't for you to understand....or were you told that. Another convenient way to shut down questions. Cults are good that way.
Okay my respect for you just sky rocketed, as a member of the LDS church I really appreciated how you actually took the time to research our religion and talked about our beliefs without a hint of judgement or prejudice. Can't tell you how many horrible things have been said to me because people don't take the time to try to understand who we actually are and what we actually believe. Thank you ❤️
Thanks for your comment! I'm LDS and I wasn't sure I should watch this, as I've been burned by some beloved youtubers before. Now I'll give it a go!
One of the most defining factors of a cult is if there are negative consequences from the organization if you try to leave.
I really appreciate your very factual take on my religion! It’s a breath of fresh air honestly. It seems that so many people online are taking these women’s sayings and practices as truth which is very hurtful towards practicing members. I am about to head on my mission in a little over a week to Utah funnily enough. Again, thank you for looking at this with a very unbiased eye!
Good luck with your mission! ❤
Ahh! Congrats on your mission call! And good luck! I agree with all this though. Its so refreshing to see someone who did research and doesn’t judge members.
Hey Kris! Just wanna let you know i love that you dyed your hair! Also I’ve been watching you for awhile and you’ve helped me get through quite a bit. Thanks for everything keep doing you, you’re awesome!
So, speaking as an openly queer LDS member, I do greatly appreciate the research done on the church. I feel like there are a lot of misconceptions about our religion and this reality show might mess up some stuff, too. So thank you so much Kris for shedding some light on Mormonism and the LDS church!❤
If you don't feel comfortable answering this, that's totally fine. But what is it like being queer in LDS? My bio-father's side of the family is Mormon (I don't know what branch) and I was just curious.
@@Ember_Esscence I feel like it usually depends on the church ward and the people in. There’s a lot of openly queer people in my ward and have helped me in my coming out and feeling supported, but my grandma is also LDS, and is not as supportive and still holds onto the hope that I’ll still be in a straight marriage. So I’d say it depends on the people in the ward and where they might stand on this subject. I’m just really lucky to be surrounded by supportive people.
@@Riley-oz8sq I'm so glad you have supportive people!
Kris as someone who grew up in Utah, baptized in the LDS church and now as an adult am an atheist and will never return to Utah. This was so well said and put together. (Aside from a sprinkling of mispronouncing things that made me giggle lol) Usually these stories are sooooo boring but I found this absolutely interesting and intriguing!!
"You wanna learn something useful today? Not the right video..." 🤣
just so you know!! it’s pronounced “tie-thing”
I wasn't gonna say nuthin', but I thought the same thing😂
I read your comment first so when Kris said it, I was like: oh! Oh!
This was uniquely funny but I totally get it if you’ve never seen it written and spoken in the same instance
Also deh-zur-eht 😅
I heard her say that and I thought "oh that's an interesting word, we call it tie-thing" I'm an idiot
As a practicing mainstream Mormon, props for the summary. Actually pretty accurate and respectful. You’re awesome!
The Kingston Clan is scary. I dealt with them as a deputy sheriff.
I ABSOLUTELY LOVE KRIS’S NEW HAIR ITS SO PRETTY 🤩🤩🤩
any time I hear "Joseph smith" i think of that South Park episode... iykyk 🎶 dum dum dum
Lucy Harris smart smart smart🤣
She DID HER RESEARCH!!! Kris, I respect you so enormously, you are such a beautiful, wonderful person, but this explanation so respectful of my church was great, thank you so much for presenting everything in a neutral and so informative way. I'm member of the LDS church (the OG ) and everything that Kris said is spotted on.
as an active member none of these women are actual members. which just makes it even more infuriating that now this is what so many people think the women of my church act like
Mayci has a temple recommend. Jen’s in laws are influential. This is just a very select small pool of elite slc lds influencers.
It’s not up to you who qualifies as a member or not. If they identify as Mormon and haven’t been excommunicated, then I don’t see why random internet people who don’t even know them get to decide whether they’re truly members or not. It’s clear that they don’t follow all the rules, but no member is perfect and it’s wrong to judge them or disqualify them from trying to be a part of the religion.
The term "Mormon" was derived as a derogatory statement about members of the Church by the same people who violently opposed the Church. It also leads people to inaccurately assume that members of the Church worship Mormon and not Christ, hence the insistence on the name change.
Out of curiosity, why did the church use the term Mormon for such a long time then? They even spent a lot of money on their ‘I am a Mormon’ campaign; why did they do that if the term is derogatory?
Tithing😂
👋 I am Mormon, I haven’t watched the show, but I enjoy your channel and wanted to hear your take on it. I appreciate the way you explained our faith. Thank you for taking the time to research the church and make this video. You’re awesome!❤
I have to agree with you. She did a fantastic job on the research.
As someone who lives in Utah, I actually work with a guy who came from the Kingston clan. He is very obviously inbred and was born with 4 thumbs, he’s basically deaf as one ear doesn’t work at all and the other barely does. He’s actually quite open about it and no longer associates with them that I know of. Pretty good dude though
i just learned a new word with the compliment in the intro LOLL
A video on Charles Manson and his cult by kmk would be interesting to watch
Kris, you did a fantastic job with the background explanation, especially for covering so much in about 15 minutes. It's very clear you did your research and were very respectful in your presentation of the background history.
Considering how responses you saw to the show online suggested those behaviors it depicts are typical, I suspect this is yet another case of those in that subculture of Mormons affirming that, while those in the majority who do try to follow the teachings generally avoid this show and everything about it since they feel it doesn't represent them. As such, thank you for approaching this topic with all the effort you gave!
Ex-Mormon here. I'm making this comment at 14 minutes in. You have done a fantastic job of summarizing The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints for not being a member so far. I'm going to continue watching the rest, but I had to make this comment while it was in my head. Excellent job, KMK.
as lds I love seeing kris pronounce these names 😂❤
i know hearing her say moroni was so funny
Specifically the New York names of cities. The way they said Palmyra killed me
Tipping is tithing now 😅
@@jackoberhansley same the whole time she was trying to say Moroni I was laughing
When she first said tithing, I thought she said "Tipping" 😂😂
As an ex mormon I appreciate you doing this and explaining the " lost plates " and the history of the church because it's crazy 😂
As a member of this church I'm glad she gave her respectful, unbiased view with accurate, researched information. I think Kris is the actual best youtuber to watch also
Active Latter-day Saint living in Utah here. Thanks for the respectful history at the beginning. Been enjoying your videos for a long time.
I think it's important to state that these women are more representative of a subculture culture in utah and not the church itself. The culture of the members in this state has always been different from members elsewhere. And I wouldn't even say all of Utah. Mainly Salt Lake and Utah counties. I'm around the same age as these women and would hear about these "couples swinging parties" all the time in college. It still shocks me, not going to lie. That clip you shared of Taylor saying she's afraid to tell her bishop because she'll be "excommunicated" is 100% true. She would be. Excommunication isn't permanent, though. If someone wants to come back, they can. Just have to take the proper steps. I have family who has. Anyway, these women can claim to be "Mormon" all they want. The facts are most of them aren't living the actual values and standards of the church. But that's between them and God. Not my place to judge.
***sidenote: when you kept saying all these women look the same all I could think was "it's because the polygamy less than 200 years ago." We're all related in some way in this state lol
I'll be talking about someone at church, and my husband will say, "sister, who? What does she look like?". Well she has blonde hair and blue eyes...
0:12 Chris, I belong to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. I want to say Thank You! You did a great job in retelling some of our history and respectfuly portraying some of our beliefs. I won't watch this show. I have never experienced any of the things some are talking about. But that doesn't mean others didn't. I just wanted to say great job and thank you.
Same here. Well said.
Watch the show and get the heck away from the LDS cult. I’ll be praying for you ❤
@@Lkjhgf921lol
regardless of what they do or what we think its none of our businesses
its their religion like Chris said “everybody can believe what they wanna believe”
its not a cult
by that shouldn’t every religion be a cult
4:52 Is it terrible that I keep thinking of that one episode from South Park where(I think it’s Kyle, not totally sure) is becoming friends with a mormon kid and the kid is explaining this to him while Kris is explaining it to us. Lol
It's Stan that becomes friends with a Mormon kid in the episode All About The Mormons.
Same 😅😂
No, it’s not terrible. I hear Mormon and then I hear… dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb 🎶🎶
@@l3ete1geuseyou’re right, it was Stan
Same here 🫠
As someone who is Mormon, love the respect and thoughtfulness that went into this video!!!
Actually funny comment from the beginning of the video, my aunt was actually married to one of the Lebaron brothers. Since it was during a time when women didn’t question their husbands she naively went along with it when her husband joined his brother’s cult. When her husband got a second wife who abused her kids and she was outcasted to a cockroach infested trailer, her husband told her she could leave, but only with her kids and what she could carry. She then made it back to Utah in the 70s with 4 kids, no income, etc. She luckily escaped and made it back and everything’s fine now, but she was likely on their hit list. That whole story is crazy to me.
always makes my day when the queen posts 👑👑💞
(BTW THAT BLONDE HAIR IS GOALS.)
4:12 Anyone else think of the musical?
Bro I'm 16 I can't imagine being married and having kids 😂😭😭
We definitely don’t get married at 16 anymore. We’re discouraged from even dating before 16. Though getting married at 16 was common in the 1800s because that was the standard.
(Sharing info, hope it doesn’t come off as judgy at all!) ❤
DONT WORRY im 14 and bro im not even aloud to date yet ahaahah let alone get married!!! im literally like all my other friends at school and tbh teh only big diffrence is no drinking and having coffe...
Don't worry, up until recently you weren't even allowed to go on dates till you were 16 lmao.
Also going to sound off and give props to Kris for the great history and faith summary of my faith.
One of the best, fairest I have heard from a non-member.
Thank you, Kris!
CRIME CONPERICY MURDER- oh brainrot knowledge, Love you Kris and I love the blonde
Lmao I saw the title (I am not big on social media so I have never heard of this show) and i immediately thought it was one of her CRIME, CONSPIRACY, MURDER shows😂
Are you going to do a video on diddy
Make this the highest comment so she sees it
honestly i’d wait, cuz the information is fully out yet. Like we all know he’s Guilty, but in order to get a full complete narrative and avoid legal trouble, it’s best to wait until most the facts are out in public