Rhythm Machine Experiments - Marble Machine X

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  • Опубліковано 22 лип 2024
  • You asked for a "I Believe" Hoodie so we made one! Check it out here:
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    Thank you for your support! / Martin & Team Wintergatan
    After the recording of the video i have found out that the US Hoodie version differs from the European, the one i used in the video, this information just reached me. When you go to Teespring from the US you will see the correct version of the hoodie in the thumbnails.
    Here is the technical breakdown of the Materials US/EU:
    US:
    An everyday pullover hoodie crafted from our signature soft Eco-Fleece.
    Eco-Fleece
    50% Polyester, 46% Cotton, 4% Rayon
    Contains organic & recycled materials
    Kangaroo pocket
    Ribbed hemband & sleeve cuffs
    Set-in sleeves
    Hood with drawstrings
    Garment imported, made with U.S.A. yarns
    EU:
    85% ORGANIC RING-SPUN COMBED COTTON, 15% RECYCLED POLYESTER
    Double layered hood in self fabric
    Round drawcords in matching body colour with metal tipping
    Metal eyelets
    Inside herringbone back neck tape
    Self fabric half moon at back neck
    Single needle topstitch at neckline and along hood opening
    1x1 rib at sleeve hem and bottom hem
    Armhole, sleeve hem and bottom hem with twin needle topstitch
    Kangaroo pocket at front
    BRUSHED SWEATSHIRT
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    It is time to try to find out how tight I can get the Marble Machine X to play. To do so I need to start with the internal timing clock, the metronome fro the MMX, the Mechanical Rhythm Machine. In this episode I am fighting with some of my older pretty naive designs and trying to make them work as intended. A tight Mechanical Rhythm machine will be the foundation on which we can measure the tightness of all the other instrument. Thanks for watching take care and good luck with everything you are doing! Martin
    Rhythm Machine Experiments - Marble Machine X 107
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    Video edited by Hannes Knutsson
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    Thanks to the Marble Machine X Team 2019
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    ►Marius Hirn | Munich, Germany
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    ►Richard Southall | String HeArt | Devon, UK
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 1,5 тис.

  • @MikaelNitscheDrums
    @MikaelNitscheDrums 4 роки тому +1196

    "If you like a more minimalistic design"
    Yes, that's why we're watching you create this behemoth of a music machine 😂

    • @jordonbrewer2354
      @jordonbrewer2354 4 роки тому +20

      I mean..... I would suggest the machine is as minimalist as it can be. Not that that's worth much but it's there.

    • @SimpleAmadeus
      @SimpleAmadeus 4 роки тому +11

      @@jordonbrewer2354 A minimalist design wouldn't even need any marbles. The music wheel itself could tap the instruments mechanically. Martin might be trying not to overdo it on purely aesthetic components, but this project is definitely not about minimalism. :P

    • @jordonbrewer2354
      @jordonbrewer2354 4 роки тому +1

      @@SimpleAmadeus I didn't claim the whole project was a bout minimalism. I'm claiming that... If the idea is to create a machine that plays music with marbles. He's creating that as minimally as he can.

    • @SimpleAmadeus
      @SimpleAmadeus 4 роки тому +3

      @@jordonbrewer2354 Not really... The marble climbing alone could've been a single component, in stead of a complex mix involving magnets. And the fancy gears are entirely aesthetic as well. It's not a bad thing. An actually minimalist design would've been very underwhelming compared to this.

    • @jordonbrewer2354
      @jordonbrewer2354 4 роки тому +1

      @@SimpleAmadeus Fair enough. I see your point.

  • @Wintergatan
    @Wintergatan  4 роки тому +679

    The leaves are already falling, we can’t ignore the truth anymore:
    I spent four years of my life trying to play music with marbles 🤷
    :). Seriously the Marble Machine is a first principle bad idea… maybe thats why its so entertaining seeing me trying to make it happen. I will make a video on this one beautiful day, right now I am too busy progressing the aforementioned bad idea so well see when that happens. ANYWAY!
    You asked for a "I Believe" Hoodie so we made one! Check it out here:
    teespring.com/stores/wintergatan
    After the recording of the video i have found out that the US Hoodie version differs from the European, the one i used in the video, this information just reached me. When you go to Teespring from the US you will see the correct version of the hoodie in the thumbnails.
    Here is the US Material:
    Eco-Fleece
    50% Polyester, 46% Cotton, 4% RayonAlso the color of the drawstrings differs, white in the US.
    Thank you for your support! / Martin & Team Wintergatan

    • @LegendSpecialist
      @LegendSpecialist 4 роки тому +1

      Plot twits..... Marble machine is scam😔

    • @mpindustries3790
      @mpindustries3790 4 роки тому +19

      Hey would you make " pain is temporary. Glory is forever" hodies? I would love to buy one from you. Ps I admire your work on MMX.

    • @helipad4050
      @helipad4050 4 роки тому +1

      What if you connected the axle to a loose ratchet and had a sort of fly wheel to keep it at a constant speed avoiding human error

    • @JamesEdington
      @JamesEdington 4 роки тому +1

      Hoodie is top of my wishlist for 🎄 A symbol to me of seeing things thru.

    • @xander1052
      @xander1052 4 роки тому

      Thanks for the near birthday (that'd be friday) present of the weekly video martin :)

  • @flynnmartienssen6459
    @flynnmartienssen6459 4 роки тому +448

    I need a t shirt with the slogan "pain is temporary, glory is forever" on it and a line art of your busted angle grinder

  • @epochrose
    @epochrose 4 роки тому +72

    Martin needs to name two of the songs in the album "Pain is Temporary" and "Glory is Forever"

  • @Ghaz002
    @Ghaz002 4 роки тому +472

    13:47 oh god hes gonna rebuild the whole mmx

    • @terrymadeley
      @terrymadeley 4 роки тому +59

      was really worried he was going to take the whole thing apart!

    • @Rouverius
      @Rouverius 4 роки тому +51

      "Pain is temporary" ..... Uh, guys.... Somebody stop him?!?! LOL!

    • @Hyoiza
      @Hyoiza 4 роки тому +25

      *BURN IT DOWN! PAIN IS TEMPORARY, GLORY IS FOREVERRRR*

    • @doctorawesome1
      @doctorawesome1 4 роки тому +9

      That's Episode #110.

    • @fredrikharaldsson
      @fredrikharaldsson 4 роки тому +5

      Yeah, I had an angle grinder moment right as he said that.

  • @sgsax
    @sgsax 4 роки тому +412

    Today we learned that there only thing that sounds like a high-hat is an actual high-hat. I believe we also learned this lesson with the snare drum. Always learning. The journey is the fun part. Thanks for sharing!

    • @doomse150
      @doomse150 4 роки тому +15

      I'm still curious how He ist ging to fit a real bass drum into the MMX

    • @joanmm2930
      @joanmm2930 4 роки тому +9

      There is only the kick drum left to go hehe

    • @jockelill
      @jockelill 4 роки тому

      Maybe next lesson is Metronome - “the only thing that sounds like a metronome is a...” 🤔😄

    • @billkeithchannel
      @billkeithchannel 4 роки тому

      "The spirit is the journey. The body is the bus..." - Johnny Clegg

    • @billkeithchannel
      @billkeithchannel 4 роки тому

      @@doomse150 I think there is space at the bottom underneath.

  • @chasslez
    @chasslez 4 роки тому +166

    "Pain is temporary"
    Wait, Martin, what are yo-
    "Glory is forever"
    MARTIN NO

    • @nathanclark3032
      @nathanclark3032 4 роки тому +16

      I cry every time. Both from sadness at seeing him destroy this beloved creation and the anticipated epicness of what he'll replace that part with.

    • @someoneelse1534
      @someoneelse1534 4 роки тому +4

      I really dont think i could have made that decision

    • @Phoenixgaming-zf4tu
      @Phoenixgaming-zf4tu 4 роки тому

      xD
      *MARTIN NO*

    • @user-jd3gf5xw1x
      @user-jd3gf5xw1x 3 роки тому

      i don't understand the joke, pls explain?

  • @rngiscurse
    @rngiscurse 4 роки тому +117

    "playing music with marbles is a fundamentally bad idea"
    proceeds to play on a saw 3 seconds later

    • @warriorfire8103
      @warriorfire8103 4 роки тому

      Had me cracking up for 3 minutes straight. I wish I could be this guy's friend but damn I don't think I'd be able to contribute a single useful thing.

    • @djaydeved
      @djaydeved 4 роки тому +1

      mick gordon
      uhhh
      i cant hear you over the chainsaw and lawn mower

  • @washoecreative595
    @washoecreative595 4 роки тому +174

    The ability to simply abandon an earlier idea and, at great cost in time and energy, develop a new and better one, does seem to me to be kind of unique and amazing. I agree it can cause problems, but it's also quite admirable. I'm a designer myself, and when I find myself down a blind alley it's paralyzing, because I am so reluctant to back up and start again.

    • @TheRhoaric
      @TheRhoaric 4 роки тому +5

      Sunken cost fallacy. I believe Martin made a video about his ongoing struggle with over coming this phenomenon and its made my life better as well. The idea is that no matter what you are working on you must consider that a decision that has lost merit in the light of new information or circumstances will only cost you more time and money than acknowledging the fault in your plan and moving back to a workable position. Long winded stop and start over. But usually I don't see the light until trying to adjust the invention or repair I've made to the break point. So I too struggle with this concept.

    • @sfkim44
      @sfkim44 4 роки тому +4

      As much as i am always impressed with Martin, i am also impressed with the comments on his channel. There are always someone who felt the same way as i did, but articulate better than i can. I agree with everything you said~!

    • @jeremygrecte
      @jeremygrecte 4 роки тому +1

      Though he didn't abandon the idea of making music with marbles yet.

  • @Xenthera
    @Xenthera 4 роки тому +1304

    Martin, serious question. Does having a youtube audience help motivate you to keep pushing through parts of this project you dread? I'm a software developer and I know i'll walk away from a project for some time because i'm dreading doing a specific part of it. Watching your videos however, you always have the next part done or worked on substantially every Wednesday. I'm super impressed by your level of motivation.

    • @grey4567
      @grey4567 4 роки тому +65

      I've heard that doing things publicly increases accountability. But there are plenty of public failures so 🤷‍♂️

    • @sky0kast0
      @sky0kast0 4 роки тому +12

      Well audience sometimes is a good motivator I hope you think of your customers as your audience Hugs I said it as well as I could I'm dumb Lol 😜

    • @youbecha64
      @youbecha64 4 роки тому +51

      I can't speak for Martin, but personally after decades of working on various projects...I find I get to a certain point of frustration and have to push the project aside for a bit...I think what having an external motivator like you mention youtube (or a boss, or spouse), is it limits how long you can push a project away...but even Martin has said a few times throughout this build that he has put off certain aspects because it was too hard, and he didn't have an answer...yet...I think what really helps Martin on this project is his ability to describe his vision, delegate without fear, and as a result has surrounded himself with a good support team of craftsmen and donors.

    • @aljaxus2190
      @aljaxus2190 4 роки тому +1

      Gee, I totally agree with you and I'd like to know this too.

    • @tomas_ton
      @tomas_ton 4 роки тому +12

      Same, I am a game developer, I had I worked on projects alone that nobody knew and stopped since I had no audience telling me if I do something good.

  • @ignis_32
    @ignis_32 4 роки тому +26

    When I get frustrated about my failures and start freaking about a need to redo something, I recall how Martin destroys his build parts just to make them even better in the end - and it helps me to get calm and start over.
    Thanks, Martin, you had teached me how not to surrender, not to get mad, and just do the job.
    We need the "pain is temporary, glory is forever" t shirt.

  • @Pitko15
    @Pitko15 4 роки тому +18

    3:02 Martin: "There is not a single point where the metal of the levers touch the metal of the machine"
    3:15 Also Martin: Moves lever down to make metal-metal sound.

  • @Rouverius
    @Rouverius 4 роки тому +479

    I don't know... this doesn't feel like feature creep. It's more like replacing a poorly realized part with a more reliable, higher quality one that performs that same function. And it makes sense, most of the sound of the MMX is now coming from authentic (although highly modified) musical instruments. Although I enjoy music made by found objects, the advantage here is that this new part should not only sound better but also be more quickly recognizable to the listener. Allowing our ears to better focus on the core sound of the MMX, in my opinion, is a good thing.
    Can't wait for Part 2!

    • @saitenotoshuitsnaini
      @saitenotoshuitsnaini 4 роки тому +14

      You said it best.
      This rhythm machine went through the same problematic issues as the mini-snare-with-rice-grain-inside does for it to be snaredrum's substitute; that Martin had to literally build another "instrument" equivalent to those that are already optimized. Rather a tall order for an alternative challange (read: side quest), i suppose.

    • @johnnewton1973
      @johnnewton1973 4 роки тому +9

      I completely agree. To me the goal isn't "build a marble machine" which could be completed quickly, the goal is "make great music using this unique and amazing instrument." As far as I can tell, no one has made a marble machine instrument like this before, so there are no previous versions to base your design on. Martin is treading a completely new path, and as a trailblazer, sometimes you have to acknowledge your mistakes and backtrack a bit. In the end he will get there with a fantastic instrument and amazing music.

    • @PSUQDPICHQIEIWC
      @PSUQDPICHQIEIWC 4 роки тому +9

      It seems like an utterly reasonable strategic decision. He's saddled with a hasty design that's turning out to be fundamentally flawed in multiple ways that would greatly complicate various parts of subsequent development. The realization of an elegant alternative design with a lower likelihood of complications is certainly justification to reconsider investing more resources (time) in the problematic development path.

    • @Shrooblord
      @Shrooblord 4 роки тому +5

      Plus, as a drummer, seeing actual drum bits doing the drumming just makes me absolutely giddy.

    •  4 роки тому +1

      It's more like "eternal refactoring" than like "feature creep" :)

  • @netsky3
    @netsky3 4 роки тому +418

    "Pain is temporary"
    Please, someone, stop this guy, he's becoming masochist :D

    • @SkyReaperOne
      @SkyReaperOne 4 роки тому +23

      I'd argue that he was a masochist to start with. XD

    • @jessiejanson1528
      @jessiejanson1528 4 роки тому +8

      Yes, But no! Funny joke, but i dont want him to stop :)

    • @anneonyme6819
      @anneonyme6819 4 роки тому +3

      He should do a shirt with this quote on it

    • @BotPiotr
      @BotPiotr 4 роки тому

      "Victory is forever"

    • @stephss
      @stephss 4 роки тому

      Dude.... Take your negativity elsewhere.

  • @namAehT
    @namAehT 4 роки тому +128

    "Garbage in Garbage out"
    I'm in Software Engineering and I feel you.

    • @marcoazz
      @marcoazz 4 роки тому +22

      Just please don't show up with the angle grinder at work when you've got some code refactoring to do ;)

    • @mduckernz
      @mduckernz 4 роки тому +6

      @@marcoazz I can think of some problems in software that can be solved with an angle grinder but they are admittedly rather few haha

    • @mikukumiku
      @mikukumiku 4 роки тому +4

      We use that adage in statistical analysis as well. Except magic also happens midway, and there’s nothing we can do about it.

    • @namAehT
      @namAehT 4 роки тому +3

      ​@@marcoazz """ Fucked
      [Some code]
      """
      and rewrite it all would probably be the closest analogy.

    • @vcokltfre
      @vcokltfre 4 роки тому +1

      @@marcoazz "I swear to god IDLE if you tell me one more time that you cant turn ints to strings I'm gonna chuck an angle grinder at you - while it's controlled by a relay triggered by catching the exception you cause when you try and fail to turn numbers to strings"

  • @Khaztaroth
    @Khaztaroth 4 роки тому +60

    When the machine is done I want every university in the world to give Martin an honorary Ph.D. in engeneering.

    • @WhatAboutTheBee
      @WhatAboutTheBee 4 роки тому +7

      He can have an Engeneering degree, which is representative of his engineering skills. Martin is simply not an engineer, full stop. He is wildly talented, creative and a joy to behold. *But he is not an engineer*

    • @Khaztaroth
      @Khaztaroth 4 роки тому

      @@WhatAboutTheBee bummer

    • @WhatAboutTheBee
      @WhatAboutTheBee 4 роки тому +2

      @@Khaztaroth I know you mean well. I, too, wish Martin well.
      A Mechanical Engineer designs his components, calculates the build up of tolerance and provides finished drawings. In direct conversations with Martin's actual engineers, it has been made clear that not only has the build up of tolerance calculation not been made, but that major components are not even in his CAD drawings.
      An engineer *calculates* in the face of uncertainty, making design choices based on a conservative approach that will provide success with compromises. Martin just builds stuff and tries it out.

    • @saradeanna
      @saradeanna 4 роки тому +5

      @@WhatAboutTheBee The standards by which universities award engineering degrees change as methods and technology improve but the definition of engineer is still "someone who designs, builds or maintains machines or public works'. Leonardo DaVinci was an engineer who did not have a degree from MIT. Would an engineer 500 years from now think that no one from our time would be engineers because we don't do things the same as they do?

    • @WhatAboutTheBee
      @WhatAboutTheBee 4 роки тому +2

      @@saradeanna The very minute that Martin completes a University curriculum in Engineering, I'll be the first to recognize him as such Until then, he is not an engineer.

  • @Pushpin06
    @Pushpin06 4 роки тому +531

    I would suggest adding a tachometer or something along those lines, with a small led display so you can adjust the rpm accordingly

    • @IlFerroviere
      @IlFerroviere 4 роки тому +87

      Why not mechanical tachometer? :D

    • @moork
      @moork 4 роки тому +23

      I was thinking the same, that way you could see the BPM/RPM at any moment.

    • @joephus473
      @joephus473 4 роки тому +6

      I just added the same comment... in less technical terms

    • @uo208561
      @uo208561 4 роки тому +6

      I think the best way is to hook an electric motor to the flywheel by friction to keep a perfect tempo. He can still use the pedal at the beginning and use the motor to keep the speed once moving. A DC motor from a treadmill with an SCR control would work marvels.

    • @joephus473
      @joephus473 4 роки тому +47

      While that would add an element of mechanical perfection, solving a million problems... I’m not sure how I feel about it not being “played” by a human being. And besides... music isn’t perfection... “Music is the space between the notes.” -Debussy

  • @SweatySpaghetti
    @SweatySpaghetti 4 роки тому +180

    i love the way he goes with chopping off parts he isnt happy with.

    • @Ree1981
      @Ree1981 4 роки тому +12

      Put this guy and Settled (swampletics) in a room and they'll crack fusion and climate change in a week.

    • @skmetal7
      @skmetal7 4 роки тому

      @@Ree1981 Climate has been changing for millions of years, we don't cause it and we can't change it.

    • @sabs93
      @sabs93 4 роки тому +2

      @@Ree1981 osrs player spotted

    • @TheNathannator
      @TheNathannator 4 роки тому +4

      @@skmetal7 It's not that we cause it, it's that we're accelerating it.

    • @skmetal7
      @skmetal7 4 роки тому

      @@TheNathannator Our co2 production has ZERO affect on the earth heating. Plus there is NO evidence that the earth is actually heating. electroverse.net/physicist-co2-retains-heat-for-only-0-0001-seconds-warming-not-possible/

  • @DrNickAG
    @DrNickAG 4 роки тому +24

    Martin: "It sounds like spring steel scrapping against plywood with a contact microphone and I don't like it"
    Audience: "Uhm.... Martin... we need to talk about something..." :)

  • @NROS2012
    @NROS2012 4 роки тому +38

    Pain is temporary: regret is forever. You definitely did the right thing.

  • @FireSpark16
    @FireSpark16 4 роки тому +33

    I love how you are able to take this immense machine and breakdown the individual adjustments into such easy to understand steps.

  • @TheCebulon
    @TheCebulon 4 роки тому +19

    Started to panic as he removed more and more parts from the MMX 😬
    Thought he will not stop. But he did!
    Greetings from Munich, Tom.

  • @theunforgivenii
    @theunforgivenii 4 роки тому +2

    Wore the "I believe" T-Shirt today when a coworker recognized it and came to me, so we had a nice chat about the last updates on the MMX. The number of believers is rising ^^
    So much fun to see you progressing. Keep up the spirit! :-)

  • @matheusrocha5596
    @matheusrocha5596 4 роки тому +10

    "Pain is temporary" a slasher horror film about Martin finally going crazy because of the mmx and going around terrorizing people in rural france with that saw

  • @DagoDuck
    @DagoDuck 4 роки тому +30

    2:13 Martin getting used to memes

  • @gravity4261
    @gravity4261 4 роки тому +25

    Hey Wintergatan! I have been following for over a year now and I just want to say I love what your doing and how you are bringing the maker community together to create this awesome machine, it is really inspiring!

  • @illmaso786
    @illmaso786 4 роки тому

    So inspiring watching Martin on his journey with the MMX. The raw dedication and willingness to overcome every obstacle that comes his way is awesome. We all love and support you Martin! Love these videos.

  • @RetroPlus
    @RetroPlus 4 роки тому

    When you broke the rhythm machine down that really shows how dedicated you are to this project, you won't settle for "good enough" and I think that's true dedication right there.

  • @VoodooGMusic
    @VoodooGMusic 4 роки тому +77

    literally throughout this video I was thinking the whole time: "Why do you need metal plates scraping on wood? just use drum sticks hitting a metal surface instead."

    • @MrGonzonator
      @MrGonzonator 4 роки тому +3

      I didn't get why he had to destroy the whole thing. If he mounted those metal bits on the bottom and the sprung drumstick tips on the wheels....?

    • @randombloke82
      @randombloke82 4 роки тому +4

      MrGonzonator he didn’t though; he disassembled it. Apart from the rhythm volume control levers which are wholly redundant with the new design, all the other parts are whole and reusable and will probably be back on the machine by the next episode.

    • @YoshionoKimochi
      @YoshionoKimochi 4 роки тому +4

      Look at the thumbnail, he already had it built and we never notice.

    • @TheNathannator
      @TheNathannator 4 роки тому +2

      Switcheroo: instead of metal on wood, it's wood on metal

  • @DMadHacks
    @DMadHacks 4 роки тому +715

    It is Wednesday my hoodies...

    • @Wintergatan
      @Wintergatan  4 роки тому +136

      haha what a change, we are progressing :)

    • @DerStabby
      @DerStabby 4 роки тому +9

      Eaaaayyyyyeeeaahhh!

    • @DMadHacks
      @DMadHacks 4 роки тому +73

      gotta change it up every now and then to keep my sanity lol (:

    • @brandonpau6395
      @brandonpau6395 4 роки тому +16

      Wednesday it is, my doodie.

    • @ManuelGennaroMusic
      @ManuelGennaroMusic 4 роки тому +10

      Indeed it is my fellow hood

  • @kimevertolofsson
    @kimevertolofsson 4 роки тому +10

    "Pain is temporary, glory is forever" might be my new life motto.

  • @Sintanity
    @Sintanity 4 роки тому

    There's been so many times through this build where I've thought "Now that's really cool." but then you go back and change it to something completely different- and it's like the pieces fall into place. I think the replacement to the rhythm machine was a fantastic idea. The new system just sounds infinitely better.

  • @genau14zeichen
    @genau14zeichen 4 роки тому +6

    I really didn't like the sound of the rythm machine either. So glad you decided to redesign it completely instead of taking the compromise

  • @torbjornahman
    @torbjornahman 4 роки тому +5

    Nooo...the angle grinder again! Ha ha... I love it, the next iteration will be good, I'm sure!

  • @cosmoanayiotos6924
    @cosmoanayiotos6924 4 роки тому

    This guy is a bloody genius ! To have this idea in his head - design it - solve the problems - and create what was in his head - just an idea a concept a new creation- AND MAKE MUSIC ?!!? Incredible ! Just incredible

  • @dylanpritchard4981
    @dylanpritchard4981 4 роки тому

    The combination of music and engineering is so beautifully captured in this machine! It never gets old!

  • @atomicpollywaffle
    @atomicpollywaffle 4 роки тому +116

    Waiting for a governor for the flywheel. Then it doesn't matter the pace of cranking. Old school steam has the answer.

    • @TheWineroute
      @TheWineroute 4 роки тому

      Link to device?

    • @m4ki9h76
      @m4ki9h76 4 роки тому +12

      So, basically MMX becomes one over-engineered music box?
      well technically it still is, but then Martin should figure out how to make that happen...

    • @Rouverius
      @Rouverius 4 роки тому +3

      @@TheWineroute ua-cam.com/video/zNzpOwWzxXw/v-deo.html

    • @andrewbailey7999
      @andrewbailey7999 4 роки тому +14

      Can you adjust a governor so it allows you to play lots of different tempos? Because he wants an unlimited range of speeds for the machine

    • @enyotheios2613
      @enyotheios2613 4 роки тому +10

      Yes, I was noticing the same issue when he expressed his inability or difficulty in keeping the revolutions in time with the recording. I saw other comments that called for an RPM tachometer, but think the adjustable governor in conjunction would be even more effective.

  • @powderphysics
    @powderphysics 4 роки тому +56

    Me opening youtube staring at the first spot on the homepage as it loads: "please be wintergatan"
    *loads* "Wintergatan, 8 minutes ago"
    "hell yeah"

  • @cam_young_
    @cam_young_ 4 роки тому

    Martin, the skills you had prior to the original MM and those you keep showing us with the evolution of the MMX are truly outstanding.
    Keep up the outstanding work.
    Don't mind the tweaks, you work through them well.
    And thank-you for all that you have shared to date.

  • @kittonsmitton
    @kittonsmitton 4 роки тому

    Bravo Martin not afraid to keep on improving your ideas, this is how great works are made.

  • @bryanfraser8061
    @bryanfraser8061 4 роки тому +6

    "The rhythm is really difficult to get tight"
    What would happen if you added a Centrifugal Governor with indicators on it to show how fast you are playing the beat? It wouldn't help with the offset timing issue, but once you found the timing, it would be easier to keep the crank at the correct speed.

  • @danielho9579
    @danielho9579 4 роки тому +16

    I love love what you do and i love the adventure you brought us. I am loving every single moments of the marble machine x creation. Thank you

  • @lise8781
    @lise8781 4 роки тому

    One thing I did not expect learning from these videos when I started watching them: PAIN IS TEMPORARY. Yep, it's okay to go back and re-do stuff, letting go of bad designs, having worked hours on something unusable is not a bad thing, as long as you learned your mistakes in the process. I've been trying to learn that for myself for years during all my projects, but watching the actual benefit of it every wednesday, I'm now genuinely believing it. I'm no engineer, no real musician, I just loved the MM1 to bits. And I'm learning so much from the building of the MMX, even though I'm just passively enjoying this, it's incredible. That's one of the reasons I keep watching this like a junkie. Thanks, Martin !
    (and THANKS FOR THE HOODIES !!!)

  • @geochange
    @geochange 4 роки тому

    In geoscience modeling, we call it "Garbage In, Garbage Out" - we stand with you in getting it best in the primary variable, rather than band-aid plug-in audio engineering. love from a small island on the west coast of canada.

  • @gonun69
    @gonun69 4 роки тому +16

    There might be some feature creep going on, but you're definitely not falling for the sunken cost fallacy.

  • @brennon_
    @brennon_ 4 роки тому +49

    My wednesday has more meaning than most others!

  • @nlbadguy
    @nlbadguy 4 роки тому

    I think you should not be afraid of getting always stuck in search of improvement. What you are doing here is something out of the ordinary. You are making a CUSTOM machine that plays a lot of other MUSICAL instruments. Which takes a huge spectrum of knowledge - theoretical (you already have) - practical is what you are constantly build up as you do with the machine itself. You are doing an amazing job, I really admire your knowledge, determination, and dedication to this project.

  • @AndyShelton1
    @AndyShelton1 4 роки тому +1

    Martin, I'm starting to think the process of this is more enjoyable than the finished product might be. I know there is a goal in all of this, but I for one won't be disappointed in the slightest if this becomes a never-ending pursuit. Watching you invent and troubleshoot and zealously endeavor to find what is best for this dream is the best part of the MMX. I hope the first song you play on a stage is a sad one, because as beautiful as that song will be, we will all be sad not to see this process go on ad infinitum.

  • @markfortin421
    @markfortin421 4 роки тому +3

    My motto when building anything new to me:
    "No guts, No glory!"
    You don't know until you try, and what doesn't kill you...makes you stronger.
    Every, and I mean Every inventer goes through these processes God knows how many times, each time advancing ever closer to the goal, so I applaud your efforts, and hope for only the best results.
    Thank You for sharing.
    ✌😁💥

  • @bzqp2
    @bzqp2 4 роки тому +47

    Holy cow, the physiclal sound envelope is genious :o

  • @grunions9648
    @grunions9648 4 роки тому

    I don't think you need to keep apologising. Hundreds of thousands of people are enjoying watching you learn and build. I personally love these big 'crisis' moments, because I know I'll get to watch you replace something awesome with something mind-blowing.

  • @Goual
    @Goual 4 роки тому

    I'm always ending a wintergatan's video with this feeling: amazing how a man with genius, dedication and a lot of support can overcome anything. Martin, not only your videos are instructive, interesting and entertaining, but they are also empowering for all of us, filling us with positive feelings. Thanks so much!

  • @eero9549
    @eero9549 4 роки тому +30

    imagine someone following this series and building it themselfs

    • @Daggeira
      @Daggeira 4 роки тому +9

      I wouldn't be surprised if some engineering student in Japan has tried to do just that. Give it enough time and someone will try to make one out of Lego XD

    • @Bondubras
      @Bondubras 4 роки тому +12

      I can't remember when he said it, but Martyn once said that he's going to put the CAD and all relevant files online once the MMX is completed. I think he WANTS to see others make their own copy of MMX.

    • @conlangknow8787
      @conlangknow8787 4 роки тому +1

      @@Daggeira yup

    • @1itim
      @1itim 4 роки тому

      Michael Oakes for a price

    • @mandymoo745
      @mandymoo745 4 роки тому +1

      the @@1itim I'd hope so! He's put enough blood, sweat, and tears into it, so the rest of us don't have to.

  • @nathanalaneller
    @nathanalaneller 4 роки тому +5

    IDEA: for timing, instead of using the hand crank to speed the machine, use it to tighten a spring powered motor, like in a wind up toy, & use a lever to control the speed. A big coil spring with a one way gear.

  • @WilliamSurles
    @WilliamSurles 3 роки тому

    1 step back, 2 step forwards. That is life. And you are always moving forward and will get there.
    It's just hard to see when you are so zoomed in. But being on the outside I see it.
    Just keep going martin. It's all about the journey, not the destination. And you are already a star!

  • @orsorsorso
    @orsorsorso 4 роки тому

    Hello Martin, I visit you from time to time and you know, what? You're a perfect example of a clinic case...I could get friends with :-).
    The mixture of an engineering and passion oriented on music supported by the creativity is something really unusual. And inspiring. Thanks.

  • @Moss_196
    @Moss_196 4 роки тому +66

    Wants to avoid feature creep, also invents wiggly drumsticks

    • @WhatAboutTheBee
      @WhatAboutTheBee 4 роки тому +6

      Metal fatigue also occurs with coiled springs.

    • @GrandmasterofWin
      @GrandmasterofWin 4 роки тому +18

      @@WhatAboutTheBee sure, but much slower. The point is to have enough consistency to make it through a tour. Almost everything on the MMX is designed to be swappable in case of damage or degradation.

    • @JaredMeadows
      @JaredMeadows 4 роки тому +1

      LOL! 😂

    • @jessiejanson1528
      @jessiejanson1528 4 роки тому +4

      sure, but they are actually needed...

    • @tamer27antepli
      @tamer27antepli 4 роки тому +1

      Maybe he could glue 2 different metals to eachother

  • @jonathanfaber3291
    @jonathanfaber3291 4 роки тому +3

    Everyone's all that until Martin drops the "Pain is temporary, Glory is forever" line

  • @Mythryl12
    @Mythryl12 4 роки тому

    You have an amazing mind. Your musical and mechanical aptitude is obvious to anyone who watches any of your videos. I wouldn't be surprised to see you show up on one of those shows that come up every now and again about people with a particular genius.

  • @Im49th
    @Im49th 4 роки тому

    I love seeing parts being redesigned, it's very interesting seeing how a different approach can make such a big difference.

  • @spikelink2
    @spikelink2 4 роки тому +6

    You should make pain is temporary, glory is forever shirts!

  • @thejaguarmx
    @thejaguarmx 4 роки тому +7

    First. Like for the video. Second. Like to the "It's Wednesday my dudes" guy. Third. I felt sad when he began to tear apart the MMX, but that is the daily life of engineering. Finding better solutions just when you finished to build one and see that it doesn't work as expected.

  • @freerangemtb
    @freerangemtb 4 роки тому

    I think Martin has the perfect combination of quirky musician, sense of humor, and engineering genius. I am pretty sure we'd get a long pretty well if we ever met. Someday, that'd be a cool thing to happen.

  • @caspix
    @caspix 4 роки тому

    Moon and Star is seriously something of the most beautiful I have heard. Makes me feel good. Amazing work Martin

  • @dementia4
    @dementia4 4 роки тому +22

    Martin: *pick up angle grinder
    "Pain is temporary"
    Me: Oh shit, here we go again.

  • @_Killkor
    @_Killkor 4 роки тому +30

    Martin: _has a better idea for a certain part of MMX_
    Angle grinder: "Hello there"

    • @Basement-Science
      @Basement-Science 4 роки тому +3

      *has a better ID

    • @Shrooblord
      @Shrooblord 4 роки тому

      That's a nice piece of engineering you got there. Would be a shame if something were to... happen to it.

    • @skmetal7
      @skmetal7 4 роки тому

      Angle grinder comes out, parts go flying!

  • @skygh
    @skygh 4 роки тому

    We have been watching you create the prototype, beta and final machine all at once. It should evolve. Your stamina is remarkable.

  • @EnginAtik
    @EnginAtik 4 роки тому

    It is not just the engineering getting better, the script is also getting better with each episode: Angle grinder symbolism is very powerful. Meticulously removing the blue tape from the floor as work to be done although you are demolishing a piece of already completed work, dismembered limbs of the beat machine with a drop of blood on the floor, melancholic theremin music on a saw juxtaposed with celebratory eyeglass frames, all fit in perfectly to deliver the trials and tribulations of the protagonist.

  • @GraphicWolf69
    @GraphicWolf69 4 роки тому +4

    Martin at 10.000.000 subs: Gonna disassemble the same stuff with a dynamite !
    Pain is Eternal ! Glory is Forever ! Explosions are Magnificent !

  • @travisjacobs9873
    @travisjacobs9873 4 роки тому +10

    you have come so far i remember when it was just a frame welded together

  • @etepeteseat7424
    @etepeteseat7424 4 роки тому

    Real instruments will almost always help beef up and give grounding to a sound. Never apologize for doing what's best for the music, Martin.

  • @Lady8D
    @Lady8D 4 роки тому

    Personally, I already love the way it sounds! Can't wait to hear the finished product!

  • @Gorgonzola1970
    @Gorgonzola1970 4 роки тому +3

    It did sound a little bit like someone chopping vegetables in the flat upstairs. Onwards and upwards!
    Greetings from snowy Gagnef Martin!!

  • @victorpelini5995
    @victorpelini5995 4 роки тому +3

    You should add a tachometer, like to have a live feedback of the rotational speed of the MMX, you could add a simple hall effect pickup to dial in an RPM signal

  • @eggman9713
    @eggman9713 4 роки тому

    This also solves the problem in one of the previous videos where the hi-hat ran out of marbles a couple of times. Worth it!

  • @LevidelValle
    @LevidelValle 4 роки тому

    These videos are a wonderful and a lesson on Design that has been preserved for future builders, designers, and engineers. Thank you.

  • @Midolir
    @Midolir 4 роки тому +5

    - "Oh no... please don't grab the angle grinder again.... Martin, no!"
    - "MARTIN YES!"

  • @danielc.arellano4715
    @danielc.arellano4715 4 роки тому +52

    Angle Grinder exist: "pain is temporary"
    Me: oh no. nonononono!
    Also me: but glory is forever! cha!

    • @Eragon954
      @Eragon954 4 роки тому

      We need "Pains is temporary. Glory is Forever" merch.

  • @nateamus3920
    @nateamus3920 4 роки тому

    Watching you move through these challenges and overcoming them translates to every other part of life. So you're delivering life lessons... HILARIOUSLY! There is so much value you are creating for all who watch it's ridiculous. Keep it up, brother!

  • @KarnBlueEarring
    @KarnBlueEarring 4 роки тому

    Martin, you are an absolutely inspiring person. Thank you so much. I believe.

  • @AgiHammerthief
    @AgiHammerthief 4 роки тому +7

    Heisenbergs Rhythm Machine: With uncertainty built in.

  • @JohnR31415
    @JohnR31415 4 роки тому +22

    To help with timing - I’m envisaging something like a centrifugal governer...

    • @WhatAboutTheBee
      @WhatAboutTheBee 4 роки тому +2

      A centrifugal govenor admits more or less steam as a function of the rise and fall of the metal balls. I'm not convinced that this is an appropriate feedback mechanism as Martin doesn't expel gas as a motive force for MMX. Martin does have a flywheel which is used to modulate velocity, as the rotational inertia resists changes in velocity. The issue for Martin is to get that flywheel to the appropriate velocity, when it all the while resists that very change.

    • @mfbfreak
      @mfbfreak 4 роки тому +4

      @@WhatAboutTheBee Instead of actuating a gas valve with the governor, you can also actuate a brake pad on a brake disk. That's how it works in acoustic (wind up) gramophones. It's a very simple but effective speed limiter.

    • @JohnR31415
      @JohnR31415 4 роки тому

      LimaVictor yes, the idea was as a brake for speed limiting (or even just as a really accurate mechanical indicator)

    • @elizabethhicks4181
      @elizabethhicks4181 4 роки тому +1

      Remember the point is to have the crank work in time with the machine. The beat should be on the lowest part of the downstroke. Part of it is playing better, but not having a hard, snappy note can make playing to a beat hard. I think the revamped rhythm machine will fix the issue of being able to hear the actual peak of the sound. Look at the sound comparison part at 12:02. Martin explains it.

    • @Pilotmichael36
      @Pilotmichael36 4 роки тому

      @@WhatAboutTheBee idk I see a lot of smoke come out of his ears now and then XD

  • @jadedflames
    @jadedflames 4 роки тому

    Oh thank goodness. I always worried that that rhythm machine would be disappointing on the final product. I’m so excited to see this new design!
    It seems so obvious, but it took so long to think of. Those are the best designs.

  • @Quizzicality
    @Quizzicality 4 роки тому

    Martin, don't worry about how long this is taking, I think half the fun for most of us is just watching the process every week! I don't know what I'm gonna do with my life when you're done and I can't watch you build stuff anymore lol.

  • @moisesramirez9654
    @moisesramirez9654 4 роки тому +3

    Watching you angle grind away a cymbal makes me shiver

  • @Sir99percent
    @Sir99percent 4 роки тому +3

    15:04 left me like: nooooo not the angle grinder of pain. but then martin's redesign idea left me sooo stoked! Looking forward to seeing it on the MMX!
    Also notice how the 'i-d' is back? :D

  • @mateuszrudnicki4474
    @mateuszrudnicki4474 4 роки тому

    Dear @Wintergatan / Dear Martin every Wednesday when I wake up I think OMG "marble machine today", always so suprised when you figure something out, and I as a musician think "wow, does sound really good" and then you just improve this and I pick up my jaws from the floor! U R amazing musician and after few months on this channel, I have to admit, U R same good constructor/designer/engineer. Thank you for good waves, positive attitude and smiling face. Regards from Poland !!!

  • @Cypherius_Cain
    @Cypherius_Cain 4 роки тому

    I seriously love how you keep improving. Never settling for good enough. It's so inspiring and an absolute joy to watch! Sure, I look forward to the music in the end, but this is just so much more! It's about the journey. Keep doing what you are doing! I will continue to look forward to your videoes :D

  • @andrewkvk1707
    @andrewkvk1707 4 роки тому +5

    Kind of just want the design on a hoodie without any words

    • @daggle77
      @daggle77 4 роки тому

      thought the same.

  • @MazsolasArpad
    @MazsolasArpad 4 роки тому +3

    Pain is temporary, *angle grinder here* glory is forever. Shirts and hoodies when? Maybe a poster?

  • @Grantovius
    @Grantovius 4 роки тому

    Martin, thank you so much for allowing us to follow you on this journey. I often get hung up on projects personally and professionally when I encounter issues because I tend to perceive them as conceptual flaws that require a whole redesign. I'm taking a break from working on the 3rd iteration of one of those right now to watch your video. Watching you face those obstacles and push right on through improvising and adapting and ending up with something wonderful every time is an inspiration and an encouragement to me. Keep being your brilliant self, we believe in you and in the MMX!

  • @radosawwujec959
    @radosawwujec959 4 роки тому

    Matin you know what... watching every week how you struggle to make your dream com true is one thing but what really inspires me is the way you you talk about it ... there's so much humility in your voice and at the same time its full of wonder and passion of a little kid watching mesmerized at the stars. The world can be a magical place. Thanks for reminding us about that...

  • @donniepanjikaran1388
    @donniepanjikaran1388 4 роки тому +6

    Next Episode
    Martin: I'm gonna replace the kick drum with an actual 16" kick drum which is gonna be mounted below the MMX.

  • @Zer0Tactics918
    @Zer0Tactics918 4 роки тому +8

    Hey Martin, I had a question, do you ever find that having this weekly episode sometimes gets in the way of having a fully fledged design, simply because you have a week to do things and get a video up? Or does it almost help to have that slight time pressure going to keep you from over designing?

    • @nandakoryaaa
      @nandakoryaaa 4 роки тому +2

      I noticed about myself, that when I try to show or explain what I'm doing, I actually see many errors and other things that I would not notice otherwise.

  • @joesandy1999
    @joesandy1999 4 роки тому

    Good job recognizing that something won't work and making changes. Pain is temporary, Glory is forever.

  • @BlakeMcBride
    @BlakeMcBride 4 роки тому

    The whole first half of the video, I kept thinking "I don't love that rhythm machine sound.... then you said the same. I love where this is going, thanks again for all the work you to do make/share this.

  • @DeSinc
    @DeSinc 4 роки тому +3

    part of me knew this was coming. the new part I'm sure will be miles ahead of the old part.
    however, I am worried that you're entirely replacing the old hi-hat. are you? because I really really liked the visual style of the old one, getting hit by marbles was just the best thing to watch. I know it's harder to get right though. part of me just wishes you increased the marble drop height and added 2 more droppers for 4 total and called it a day.

  • @SirCatsal0t
    @SirCatsal0t 4 роки тому +3

    5:15 crab rave intro

  • @DrNickAG
    @DrNickAG 4 роки тому

    "Feature Creep Denial". There should be a support group for this!

  • @digitalquartergod2989
    @digitalquartergod2989 4 роки тому

    Martin is the definition of "don't cling to a mistake just because you spent such a long time making it"