Monstertech | Virpil | Chair Mount Cockpit Build | First Impressions
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- Опубліковано 15 жов 2024
- Hello and welcome to "IN|VR". I'm Marcus! Today's video is a full time lapse build log of my Chair Mounted Cockpit using Monstertech and Virpil Controls products.
Monstertech | Virpil | Chair Mount Cockpit Build | First Impressions
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Monstertech - Make sure you order parts that support your specific chair
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SKU: 410-00-0067-B x2 - JOYSTICK / HOTAS CHAIR MOUNT
SKU: 140-00-0000-B - THROTTLE ADD-ON
SKU: 410-02-0000-B - MOUSE EXTENSION FOR CHAIR MOUNT
SKU: 300-06-0050-B - MTX KEYBOARD
Virpil
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SKU: VPC-109 x2 - VPC MongoosT-50CM2 Base
SKU: VPC-201-002 - VPC MongoosT-50CM2 Throttle
SKU: VPC-009-R - VPC Constellation ALPHA-R
SKU: VPC-009-L - VPC Constellation ALPHA-L
80/20 Inc.
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SKU: 40-8080-Black - 15inch/381mm - 40-7044 in K Left; 40-7044 in L Left; 40-7044 in O Left; 40-7044 in P Left;
SKU: 40-4080-Black - 14inch/355.6mm - 40-7044 in F Left; 40-7044 in G Left; 40-7044 in I Left; 40-7044 in J Left;
SKU: 40-3359 x8
SKU: 40-2825 x6
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Logitech
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DxRacer
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Man I haven’t checked out your videos in while...they’re outstanding now😮
Much appreciated, definitely a the more you do the more you know in video production.
Dude that is a beautiful bit of kit ......
Thanks Martin! I was on the fence for a long time. But with Squadrons and Flight Sim 2020 with VR support hitting soon it felt like the right time.
Please make your videos full screen without the distracting intro border behind them. :) Great build - I'm surprised you didn't get a premium chair as well.
Watching you put this together and go through customizing the placement was extremely helpful. While some of the stuff might be a bit out of date for my purposes, it helps give me an idea of how everything works together. Thanks!
What a job dude, a full list of the things we need would be great!
Thanks! I'll work on one after work and update the info in the description.
Upgraded the description with the specific parts I ordered. Tools are required and your options may differ from what I ordered based on taste and chair type. Hope its detailed enough.
This dude went from 100 to 9000 real fast.
Dude the keyboard tray mount. 💯 Why everyone thinks flight sims enthusiast don't use keyboards is silly. If monstertech makes a big keyboard tray to also fit mice, then I am sold.
I used a Redragon K530 with a mouse on the tray. It was doable but not comfortable. Overall I found using the mouse extension tray off the right stick ideal for long term use. Monstertech now offers their version of the keyboard tray mount.
For real like ditch the buttons you got a keyboard man lol to each their own tho lol
Looks awesome. Would love to see a video of you from both perspectives. Inside VR and outside VR. Just to see how it all works and goes down.
Thanks! I will definitely work on something like that. Still figuring out and setting up profiles for different games at the moment. But will make a another video once the controls are dialed in.
i was just looking at doing a similar set up with the dual sticks and throttle mounted to a chair for star citizen
Damn I’m looking for a setup but this looks amazing dude. I’m not gonna say jump in it since it’s alpha but Star Citizen has been great to play with dual sticks and face tracking. Now I’m looking at a full on setup like you have since these Thurstmasters have been drifting.
But yea I’d check out star citizen they even have free fly weeks. Tons of ships and guns to try out during the events and each ship handles differently in space and in atmosphere. Joysticks make flying 100x better in it too.
That cis a very common sense set up, expensive yes, but high quality, sturdy and made to the highest standard. You get what you pay for, so do it right 1st time, and your set for years to come. Great content. Enjoy.
Ayye Marcus when you mentioned your UA-cam station to me at work I have to say, I didn't expect this.. Wow homie this i something serious. I love it... I think I'm gonna start playing some games. I love the entire set up.
Thanks! Welcome to my world outside of work...
You're breathing hard bro. Great video!
my god thats beautiful, the kind of setup i wish i could afford
Thanks a lot. It was years in the making.
Really loved the video if it wasn't for the frame-thingy... Overall stunning video tho :DD
That's impressive man, love the setup!
Fantastic Build, Great Video! I loved the strobe/chair unveiling!
I have a question for you. If a flight/space sim has both flat screen and VR, which do you prefer to play?
Thanks! Preference is VR, the level of immersion is unmatched with any at home flight sim setup. I play flat with a triple monitor setup using track IR and VR beats it hand down.
Nice build! You got a new sub
good stuff man. Love the build and the play space
Thanks a lot! Couple of things I need to change and the cockpit will be complete.
Badass Setup! Nice!
Nice project that you have there. Can u tell us the length of the two parts u required for the 90°-Construction u build yourself for the keyboard? Thank you very much for your inspiration.
When I get home I will get you the exact measurements.
@@MarcusValles ur the best :)
I also thought about to use a about 20% longer part for the piece you used to assemble the actual keyboardholder (40x80 custom part), to positioning 2-3 of the mfd- holders from Monstertech to put fire HD tablets 10.1' on (if they are in sale ;)):
www.monstertech.de/produkt/mfd-tablet-halter-center
www.monstertech.de/produkt/mfd-tablet-halter
I like the idea to run different screens/fragments from GameGlass on them.
I would be interested in your opinion about actual usage and stabilityof the idea. Maybe a 80x80 dimensions would be required to have enough stability? Would this maybe stabilize the construction enough, if not?:
easy-systemprofile.de/Knotenplatte-N10-392.html
@@CsRacerOriginal The 80x80 is 15 inches and 40x80 is 14 inches. You really need to consider the strength of your particular chair. As with my DX Racer it has a metal frame and all the added weight gave it some flex. I had to install the Universal chair mount for added strength. Also if you make the front end to heavy the chair will tip over.
@@MarcusValles Alright thanks for the information. :) I will keep an eye on the flex-problematic, when atempting to rebuild a similar build by myself and also try to add the mfd-holders on it, which would increase the weight to front even more. I guess at some point i have to just try it out by myself and risk some climate unfriendly returns in a case of to much flex or imbalance of the whole chair itself.
I gonna add that build to a noble chair Epic, which i bought as an replacement for my old chair and this project.
www.noblechairs.de/epic-series/gaming-stuhl-pu-leder
I am aware of your suggestion to add more stability to the build by using the univesial base plate from Monstertech, so i already ordered it and will add the parts to it, instead of, on the chair.
One more thing about the required length for the keyboard holder you build...
I have to use the FORM-1 plates for my build. If I am right with my thoughts, i'm able to reduce the length of the custom 80x80 part by around 1 inch because the plate is 30mm shorter then the FORM-2-plates, that you used for the dxRacer, i think?
www.monstertech.de/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/monstertech_chair_mount_form1.pdf
www.monstertech.de/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/monstertech_chair_mount_form2.pdf
Would you say that you have enough space to push your Alpha to the front?
Thanks again and have a nice day/evening ahead :)
That is a extremely nice setup, but I can't help to think "that poor Dx Racer" I hope it can take it in the long run . Now I can't wait to get my second (left hand) Virpil Alpha, to join my throttle and stick. I will look forward to see the changes in the future to your setup 😊
Thanks! Shockingly the Dx Racer stood the test of time over my Respawn and AKRacing chairs. Will be getting a Titan XL to replace the Dx in the near future.
Well done sir.
Interesting approch to mounting for sure.
My god all that stuff is a couple house payments for me lol. Definitely impressive
Its about what i make in a year. Gotta love 3rd world wages!
This is Epic man, Love it
Thanks Dan! Squadrons can't come out soon enough.
I see your a man of culture using wera tools. XD Nice set up though man its looking good!
Very good ... the best setup. Why Two side stick ??
I mainly play Space Sims. In my opinion Dual Stick is far superior for those types of games.
Well done, keep it rollin!!!
My man, you answered all the questions I had about getting Monstertech. Thanks.
Also, how does it matter that the Mongoose stick bases are backward? Or is it just a set-up issue?
Glad to help! The bases being backwards do not present any issues. On the stick side the main connector can be rotated 180 degrees and can be calibrated as such. I had the same concern when I ordered the kit. Virpil should make that known on their products page.
Bruuuuuhhh! This was soooooo badass!!!
Thanks Bruh... Whats the saying.... Go BIG or go home....
Nice overview, thanks for sharing!!
Hell yea bro dig your man cave!
Bloomin' marvellous Marcus. You are obviously having great fun with all of this. I'm after a recommendation - I've recently bought the Virpil kit (top draw stuff) and now I realise there are two possible directions I can take.....either keep building up my flight simulation rig (like your chair, more hardware controls, etc) OR go straight into VR and presumably I wouldn't need to worry about buying all this extra kit and more monitors/screens? Your expertise in making a recommendation would be appreciated. J.
Thanks John, these days I game primarily in VR. Aside from Star Citizen, hoping for VR support one day. I picked up all the extra kit before the current VR boom. I would highly recommend going straight into VR, especially if simulation style games are your main goal. VR takes Flight/Racing sims to a whole new level that most current triple monitor users won't appreciate until they try it. The Valve Index is my daily driver for VR in general but the HP Reverb G2 offers much better fidelity for sim games. Hope this helps.
This is very interesting to me because you literally came from the EXACT spot I'm in now, Warthog and Saiteck pedals, and went to almost the exact same spot I am considering, dual virpil alphas AND a virpil throttle. The only real difference is I want to also add one of their button boxes and some stream decks.
How do you find the adaptation from HOTAS to HOSAS? I've tried dual sticks a few times using two T1600s and my brain has a lot of trouble with it. I'm just so hard wired for standard flight controls.
I primarily play space sims so the transition was seamless for me. I actually struggle more playing a standard flight simulator. All my years with the warthog I wished for a left-handed stick of the same quality. I also play mostly in VR and use voiceattack for all secondary commands and flight functions. I also considered extra button boxes and the stream deck for functionality but I control all of that with voiceattack. Once you get used to using your left stick as a throttle everything else is just magic. I rarely ever use my throttle these days. Only dual sticks serves me better as I play in VR I never have to remove my hands and I use voiceattack for everything else.
Nice setup
What is the width of chair with mods and also the width and depth of your desk? Also great video lad.
Thanks! Chair is 52 Inches wide and the Desk is 70 X 40 inches.
Just finished the video and very impressed... but... not with just the chair.... that room bruh and all the VR headsets just sitting up there!!!! I got the same Virpils and i love em. Now the next big step IMO.... I got the DOF H3 and it completely changes flight sims in an insane way. You should check it out and see if its something you're interested in. Anyways awesome video man.
Thanks! I have looked into the DOF H3, it's on my wishlist. With the limited time I actually have to enjoy gaming these days I had to adjust my priorities a bit. But, it's still in my sight picture.
I would def recommend putting keyboard on the desk
I play a lot in VR and my play space is to far away. My main reason for the Keyboard mod.
Hi, Awesome setup man! I'm thinking about getting the same throttle mount/addon as you (I already have the 2 joystick chair mounts) I'm just wondering if it is comfortable to have the throttle so far out to the left, If you know what I mean? Instead of having it straight in front of the arm rest like the joysticks for example? I have a hard time figuring it out, I don't want to waste my money if it's not comfortable to have it like that (I don't play space simulators, mostly playing Flight sims and using dual joysticks for excavators in certain games) so in flight sims I would have my hand on the throttle more than I would in space sims I'm guessing? (Please correct me if I'm wrong).
But in the end, my question is: Do you think it would be uncomfortable to sit with your hand on the throttle for a long period of time when it is that far out to the left? Thanks!
I predominantly play space sims so dual stick is my primary setup. In the event I am going to play a long flight simulator session or some ace combat where the left stick is not in use I adjust the throttle closer to me. The luxury of this setup, loosen the throttle stand and slide it as close to you as you would like. Since the making of this video I have added the Flightstick Z-Extention to my left stick virpil-controls.eu/vpc-flightstick-z-extension.html for greater control in Star Citizen. To answer your question, my setup would not be comfortable for long sessions if you plan to use dual stick and throttle continuously. In Space Sims I use the throttle mostly for the buttons and switches. Hope this helps.
@@MarcusValles Thank you very much! I'll look for something else then, thank you!
Hello Marcus, how is it going? Did you have the time to enjoy this lovely setup or has your job been still demanding?
While I don't have the time to make any content these days. I have spent a considerable amount of time playing Elite Dangerous with my son. That's where my free time goes these days. While I have no regrets with the setup at all. With some of the new mounting options Monstertech has right now I would get a larger mouse mount, two headphone hooks to hold my VR controllers and a stream deck mount for more functionality since I play away from my desk. If I can manage a one year later review it will have all the details.
@@MarcusValles glad to hear that you can enjoy it. Looking forward to the review 👍
Your setup is wicked. Monster Tech has the flight chair available. That would greatly improve setup. Yet that's my opinion, but it looks like a solid build.
Thanks! I actually purchased a Secretlab Titan XL since this video, that I haven't had the time to transfer the build to yet. The DX Racer while older it holds up pretty well.
Awesome setup! Just a question on the keyboard tray, If you were to rotate the tray support bar to the front, would it put the keyboard tray at an awkward angle?
Are you talking about the pivot point at the hinge or the support the hinge is attached to?
@@MarcusValles I assume it would be the horizontal support where the hinge is attached, I re-watched the video, and saw @ 8:46 that would not be an option because the holes are engineered for that particular orientation, any rotation of the support bar would put them in a different spot and that would mean more drilling which it would be an unnecessary headache. I really like this setup, looks great!
@@bw33511 Thanks, and understood. When I made the video Monstertech did not offer a keyboard trey for the chair mount setup. I used the trey for their sim pit that made it awkward and bad for the wrist. Since they have designed one that is more flexible and ergonomic. They are also very willing to custom machine any specific part you want if you request it.
Hi Marcus, that's quite a wonderful setup you have here :) I have a few questions for you as I'm going to build a very similar thing in my new home :
Was it mandatory to remove your chair's armrests or was it a choice you made ?
Adding the MTX Keyboard to a chair mount isn't a standard way to do things on monstertech website, was it your idea in order to have you keyboard closer to you ? Was it a monstertech advice ?
And finally, why did you choose the MongoosT-50CM2 Base instead of the WarBRD one ? I'm hesitating myself :P
P.S : You won a subscriber ^^
Thanks! To install the mounts the armrest has to be removed, the plates mount to the armrest mounts in the bottom of the chair.
The keyboard mount was my own design, monstertech is working on a solution but I grew impatient so added it myself. Not monstertech approved.
Personal preference, the CM2 has greater flexibility in my opinion. Both are great bases.
@@MarcusValles Thanks for your answer :)
I understand your impatientness :P Don't you think that adding a keyboard table mount on your desk would be a good solution to have your keyboard sit closer to you ingame ?
I understand your base choice, I'm hesitating between the two as well because I saw on Virpil forum that recently the T-50 CM2 encountered some manufaturing problems : forum.virpil.com/index.php?/topic/2083-do-not-buy-vpc-mongoost-50cm2-base-they-have-defect-cams/&tab=comments#comment-17760
Do you have this issue on your model ?
@@pilou40k I mainly play games in VR away from my desk, thus the mod. I even play Star Citizen in VR using Virtual Desktop on a huge digital screen.
Haven't run into any issues so far, only been playing with them for just over a month. So time will tell.
Marcus Valles Thanks for your time, looking forward to watch your next video ;)
@@MarcusValles I just watched your video again (yes I don't know what to do while I wait for my order to arrive ^^) and I noticed that you applied an angle to your throttle add-on for ergonomic reasons I suppose.
Is it something tha's officialy possible with monstertech gear or did you tweak things a little to do it ? :)
Great video you should make some more!
Thanks! Really wish I had the free time, hopefully in the not to distant future.
Are you still planning on detailed reviews on the Virpil Gear?
If life ever gets back to normal. I work for big pharma and have almost no free time these days between work and family.
I have for question for you @marcus, When attaching the throttle, did you use the screws that came on the throttle or did monstertech give you some. because I order more or less the same setup (joystick and throttle mount) and the throttle mount didn't come with screws to attach the throttle but the joystick did but I saw you used the one on the mongoose base. So I'm curious, because I have read a lot on them missing parts when they ship. I already have a 25mm screw missing and 3 of the small washer (but luckily the washer is optional according to their generic instruction )
Alex I have been fortunate to receive all the necessary hardware required to complete my build. Since I had ordered custom parts at the time I did order additional hardware to mount my keyboard tray. Pro Tip if you are in the US, order all your hardware from 8020.net/ it’s virtually identical and it will save you time and money.
@@MarcusValles thank you much appreciated only problem is I don’t know the screws needed for the throttle since they don’t have a manual to show which screws go with that mount bracket
@@alexanderbarrios6912 the screws holding my throttle to the mount are M5 X 18mm Full Thread Cap Head Screws Stainless. Now that I am looking at it a little closer 16mm is safer as it doesn't get so close to the electronincs inside the housing.
@@MarcusValles thank you so much for the information I greatly appreciate it bro
@@alexanderbarrios6912 anytime! Glad to be able to help out.
Where do you get the red stripes from?
Got them from 80/20 Inc. Here's the link 8020.net/catalog/category/view/id/705/?p=2&product_list_limit=36&cat=715&series=22
already thought of an upgrade ??? where should the Virpil control panel # 1 fit in?
I did not know about the keyboard tray. I need that part as well. What about the buttkicker add to the chair ?
I actually have the buttkicker as well. It's a great addition, a lot of work if you have to put it on and take it off after each use.
Sick build man! *Sigh* One day... One day...
So to make those two Alpha sticks fit, you just put them on backwards?
Yes, the bases mount backwards and the sticks connection can be rotated 180 degrees.
@@MarcusValles Thank you! Got mine done today! I just can't get my throttle to be secured like yours.
@@redicanprime1181 my throttle is only screwed in at three points to get that angle. Monstertech said some months back in their forums that they would work on a angled bracket in the future.
Thought they have a Alpha sticks L and Right configuration
@@Desertpacrat92 They do, I do. The base is what has to be hooked up to the chair mounts backwards and the attachment cable on the sticks rotate 180 Degrees.
Nice video
Did you ever consider the Monstertech chair ? And why not ?
When I first built my Chair out Monstertech didn't have their own chair yet, they also didn't have a keyboard mount available either at the time. I think they got the idea from me. If I replaced my chair right now I would most likely get a Secret Labs Titan XL over a Monstertech chair. I only fly space sims so the center cut out doesn't serve a purpose for me, the Titan XL supports 400lbs which is great because the chairmount setup is nearly 100lbs itself and I weight 250lbs. Finally is the price and shipping, I can get a Titan XL purchased, shipped and delivered in 2 weeks for about $550 while the Monstertech chair is $800, shipping for me is an additional $180 and I have to wait between 2 - 3 months for delivery. If I flew HOTAS more then HOSAS it would be worth the price and wait time.
Is there a particular reason you went with mongooseT base instead of warbird base functionality wise?
They are functionally the same, outside of the base plate. The mongoose was the most recent release, by design was made to be mounted and not table top. It also feels more robust in hand. Really serves the same purpose.
Thank you for the reply! Do you mind telling how long the wait or order process was? My Saitek x52 is starting to have problems and it’s time for an upgrade.
@@clay1538 I waited nearly 4 months missed the first wave. The process for ordering is completely different now.
@@MarcusValles where did you purchase those red strips?
@@Wtf62621 I ordered it from 8020.net/ they have a lot of different colors
We gotta fly together sometime on squadrons :)
Sounds awesome! Once I get some free time I would love to. Work for big pharma and have next to no free time with Covid 19 vaccines on the horizon.
@@MarcusValles you sir are a hero to us all! Thank you so much!
Tomorrow’s stream is on squadrons. I’ll do a shout out to you and your channel.
@@thaty-wingguy9711 thanks a lot. I really appreciate it.
aye yo what's that headphone you hanging in there
They are the Philips Audio Fidelio X2HR, among the best open back headphones in this price range IMO. The sound stage in enormous. I got them on Amazon amzn.to/3uKnNYE
@@MarcusValles thank u very much
Why ... all the extras? What were they fore? Its hard to tell. Can't just do the mounting plates/sticks?
Are you talking about the Keyboard and mouse mounts?
can you use any chair for this lmao
You can.
Go to their site there are different brackets for different charis
Literally the Worst I have seen. Lol is this even real?!
i like that u have the throttle set on that side! care to explain how u mounted that so i can do it to :) Please and thanks