Never heard Mason until now and he seems down to earth, intelligent and respectful. I'm an old skater and real skaters are always candid and honest about their surroundings it seems like.
I'm curious to hear how Element has been received by the skate community throughout the years. When I was getting into skateboarding, I was a loner and lived in a bit of an echo chamber when it came to brands I supported (which were a lot). And one of them was Element. I had one Element board in my life, and It was not the best. It may have been that one specific board, but I didn't ride another one after that, even though I thought about getting another one. Then, I remember reading some interviews with Mike V and Vanessa Torres (Her interview was on the Jenkem Mag site), and they kinda described the same thing: that Element felt more like of a machine than it was a board company. I guess that explains the numerous team riders that they had. Who knows? Some of them may have been happy over there (Bam Margera; Nyjah Huston), while others were not-so-happy (Mike V; Vanessa). So, I don't Know. Just wanted to get some thoughts on Element as a brand/board company from you guys. Any interviews or forums I should read? Are the boards (other than the one I had) any good?
Around the 2000s Element was ripping Alien Workshop's graphic design, which was good and original. They eventually hired away the designer from Alien Workshop... whole thing smelled bad. Didn't feel like they had their own thing, also mention in some mag (Big Brother?) about the CEO wearing a turtleneck (?). Anyway skateboard brand identity is a precarious thing, most important for the consumer imo is who presses the boards. You want American or Canadian; Bareback is the best.
You gotta watch Tyson Peterson’s interview on the Ripride podcast with Andy Roy, he gives a great point of view on why he left element. In my opinion, I strictly rode element boards for awhile and once all the guys left recently (Evan, Mason, Tyson) I wanted to ride their new boards and after that I noticed how extremely lame Element is as a company, their boards feel pretty shitty, they promote the hell out of their most famous pro’s (Bam and Nyjah) that are infamous to a lot of the skating community, and like Tyson said in the Ripride podcast, it took 3 pro’s to leave just for the to make Chris Coulborn pro +the guy is like 30 already, they flood their pro’s with contracts and dumb shit like things they force people to post on Instagram or restrictions, etc. The company just isn’t as cool as they used to be.
Best boards I've ever skated were Almost, Plan B, DGK and Zoo Yorks. I've had quite a few elements and I've always liked them. The only one I didn't care for was a fiber light I had. It blew dong..Best deck I ever had was a Daewon Song Almost with the joy division graphic. I did so many rad tricks on that deck but it broke within a month lol
If you want a "good" board the brand doesn't matter.. you have to look up who is pressing the wood. You can find out which distributors are using which pressing plants online. My experience has been that Bareback (BBS) in San Marcos makes the toughest boards, that's from a stretch in my late teens where I'd break a deck every week or two.
Love the show & the whole cast and Love Mason!!! Mason we deff wanna see full length skate parts from you whether you got to put them out yourself or not. We want them!!!
When a skater quits a company do they have to pull his boards off the shelf? How does that work can they not sell his boards anymore even the ones that are already made?
I may be wrong but I'd imagine that you sell the rights to your name on the product so they can still sell them I think but they have to pay royalties I'd imagine.
A good example is Jason Lee. Dude hasn't skated professionally in 20 years. But Blind, or whoever owns them now, still sell his boards (reissues) even though he's officially a part of Stereo. It's on a person-to-person basis. All depends on how bad the split was.
It depends, if the boards are already made and out in shelves it doesn’t matter, they are still gonna sell them, if the graphics or boards haven’t been announced yet they probably aren’t gonna promote someone who just left their company
Now that I've educated myself a little better I'm pretty sure they'd have someone sanding the old graphics off if they had to to sell those boards. And if a board did go out with his name and graphic on it after he quit or as he quit they would sell it and keep 100% of the money. If they break off the skater even a little bit after he's quit I'd be surprised
Worked since I was 15 and I’ve never once had an exit interview... don’t forget that outside of your cushy professional career that most people aren’t treated that well.
All terrain wheels? You mean cruiser wheels? Either way just a skateboard wheel. What do you think those giys where riding in the 70s and 80s? Cruisers? They where skateboards. 78a is still a skateboard wheel even if its 62mm
New blood always comes to mind when talking full lengths. Yeah right also. There weren’t many memorable ones after that except for fully flared. The early 2000s was a much better time for skateboarding.
jpippinator New blood always comes to mind when talking full lengths. Yeah right also. There weren’t many memorable ones after that except for fully flared. The early 2000s were a much better time for skateboarding.
New blood always comes to mind when talking full lengths. Yeah right also. There weren’t many memorable ones after that except for fully flared. The early 2000s were a much better time for skateboarding.
@@Backlashed oh really il give it a watch I had his pro board it was the element with the tiger on it that was my 1st ever board from a skate shop back in the day Mike was sick back then
Meth Bane But wouldn’t also depend on the board sponsor though. I would assume that like big board brands like baker, real or primitive would pay pretty good compared to smaller board brands.
Damn I know that feeling that they don’t get where you get disrespected by a company. Made zumiez over 100k within 6 months and got let go like I was a empty chip bag
you didn't make zumiez 100k just because you were the cashier for those transactions lmao, get your head out of your ass and go get a better job with actual room for growth
Evan Smith too, everyone is leaving Element nowdays. I recently saw an interview with Tyson and he talked how Element felt more of a big corporation thing rather than a skate crew with your friends, I get his point and that's why he's on Baker now... Would love to see Mason on Creature or Real.
It's sad to say, but I honestly think Element: Peace will be the last great full length to ever come out. I know companies put out pseudo-full length videos on UA-cam, which are great, but I'm gonna miss anticipating a full length like back when
I have no hate on Element, it's just I thought Mason in my opinion didn't mesh well with Element. Now Primitive. All day. Matches perfect with Primitive. Thanks for these great interviews Nine Club. You're all legendary.
I cannot understand how anyone could go and be sponsored by Nike an absolute garbage company. Skater owned like Zero, Fallen, Straye, Emerica(and its parent company Sole Tech) and so on are the only ones that exist to me.
explain in detail why you think Nike is a garbage company without using bias or "because they didn't start out in skateboarding" or some bullshit hive mind excuse. Your most likely argument would be because it is a big corporation and skateboarding is about a counterculture movement, which would be very ironic of you to say considering you would literally be playing the role of a sheep following the hive mind "Nike is bad" mentality that many old school skaters seem to harbor. By following the collective opinion of antiNike you become the very thing you set out to defy.
What happened to loyalty? Skaters just flake out after a full length, toy machine and zero riders stayed. I'm sure there are times when they weren't getting paid a lot, but they didn't just leave because they felt like it. Either way I hope big board brands don't give him a chance, he'll just leave because his friends did or they won't have the same memories like did before the full length. What a joke
Where's the loyalty back? Their responsibility of taking care of his schedule and making sure he would stay when other companies would pay more was non-existent. It was an afterthought. I think of it as a wonderful learning curve for element. Bet they step up their contract game a bit. He literally helped other skaters make more money. Kudos. Lol fuck your loyalty comment.
So companies just invest thousands into skaters, build up a video and they won't renew his contract? Why would a company do that? The only thing saving this pretentious pro skater is his Nike check, nobody cares about this guy until am scramble came out, he got his several months of recognition, goes pro, element comes out with a full length, and he leaves shortly after?? Let me guess, he's gonna start or ride for small "unique" skate company and it'll have trendy hipster graphics. Either way, element wasted money and time on this joke. Have fun fan girling over some faceless Nike skater
Never heard Mason until now and he seems down to earth, intelligent and respectful. I'm an old skater and real skaters are always candid and honest about their surroundings it seems like.
I’d love to see a Jamie Tancowny episode
People quit jobs everyday...skate on...
Bam boards in 2019 lol
BAM RULES *heartagram emoji*
@Red Line the really fat ones
@Red Line Thats really cool. To hate on people. Good job.
@@santiagoferrari1973 guess your mom bought you one
If buying a Bam board would keep him sober, skating and filming, ill buy two.
I'm curious to hear how Element has been received by the skate community throughout the years. When I was getting into skateboarding, I was a loner and lived in a bit of an echo chamber when it came to brands I supported (which were a lot). And one of them was Element. I had one Element board in my life, and It was not the best. It may have been that one specific board, but I didn't ride another one after that, even though I thought about getting another one. Then, I remember reading some interviews with Mike V and Vanessa Torres (Her interview was on the Jenkem Mag site), and they kinda described the same thing: that Element felt more like of a machine than it was a board company. I guess that explains the numerous team riders that they had. Who knows? Some of them may have been happy over there (Bam Margera; Nyjah Huston), while others were not-so-happy (Mike V; Vanessa). So, I don't Know. Just wanted to get some thoughts on Element as a brand/board company from you guys. Any interviews or forums I should read? Are the boards (other than the one I had) any good?
Around the 2000s Element was ripping Alien Workshop's graphic design, which was good and original. They eventually hired away the designer from Alien Workshop... whole thing smelled bad. Didn't feel like they had their own thing, also mention in some mag (Big Brother?) about the CEO wearing a turtleneck (?). Anyway skateboard brand identity is a precarious thing, most important for the consumer imo is who presses the boards. You want American or Canadian; Bareback is the best.
You gotta watch Tyson Peterson’s interview on the Ripride podcast with Andy Roy, he gives a great point of view on why he left element. In my opinion, I strictly rode element boards for awhile and once all the guys left recently (Evan, Mason, Tyson) I wanted to ride their new boards and after that I noticed how extremely lame Element is as a company, their boards feel pretty shitty, they promote the hell out of their most famous pro’s (Bam and Nyjah) that are infamous to a lot of the skating community, and like Tyson said in the Ripride podcast, it took 3 pro’s to leave just for the to make Chris Coulborn pro +the guy is like 30 already, they flood their pro’s with contracts and dumb shit like things they force people to post on Instagram or restrictions, etc. The company just isn’t as cool as they used to be.
Element is lame.
Best boards I've ever skated were Almost, Plan B, DGK and Zoo Yorks. I've had quite a few elements and I've always liked them. The only one I didn't care for was a fiber light I had. It blew dong..Best deck I ever had was a Daewon Song Almost with the joy division graphic. I did so many rad tricks on that deck but it broke within a month lol
If you want a "good" board the brand doesn't matter.. you have to look up who is pressing the wood. You can find out which distributors are using which pressing plants online. My experience has been that Bareback (BBS) in San Marcos makes the toughest boards, that's from a stretch in my late teens where I'd break a deck every week or two.
Love the show & the whole cast and Love Mason!!! Mason we deff wanna see full length skate parts from you whether you got to put them out yourself or not. We want them!!!
In the 90s it was cool wen people changed companies, it was nice to see somebodys name on a different brand board
Some one should animate some 9 club interviews lol
Ikr!
When a skater quits a company do they have to pull his boards off the shelf? How does that work can they not sell his boards anymore even the ones that are already made?
I may be wrong but I'd imagine that you sell the rights to your name on the product so they can still sell them I think but they have to pay royalties I'd imagine.
A good example is Jason Lee. Dude hasn't skated professionally in 20 years. But Blind, or whoever owns them now, still sell his boards (reissues) even though he's officially a part of Stereo. It's on a person-to-person basis. All depends on how bad the split was.
Fuck no. They are still sold.
It depends, if the boards are already made and out in shelves it doesn’t matter, they are still gonna sell them, if the graphics or boards haven’t been announced yet they probably aren’t gonna promote someone who just left their company
Now that I've educated myself a little better I'm pretty sure they'd have someone sanding the old graphics off if they had to to sell those boards. And if a board did go out with his name and graphic on it after he quit or as he quit they would sell it and keep 100% of the money. If they break off the skater even a little bit after he's quit I'd be surprised
Now he is on Real
Here from latest nine club episode
Yea I always thought alex Midler would b pro for Real but SOVRN turned him pro
Dlx. Is kinda known for keeping dudes am for 15 years. Bravo comes to mind.
@@_SirCharge yea Felipe was am for years. Yoshi was am for way too long. Who's bravo?
Santa cruz. Guy from pyramid country?
@@warman167 Damien Bravo. Long time dlx am. The list is longer I can think of others if I try
@@_SirCharge oh idk him . Josiah Gatlyn, greg Meyers. Forest edwards
It's called an exit interview.
Yeah they definitely never had a job outside of sb.
Roll in
PattyMayonnaise ive had multiple jobs and didnt even know what that was
Worked since I was 15 and I’ve never once had an exit interview... don’t forget that outside of your cushy professional career that most people aren’t treated that well.
zack1138 relax bro
mason should be on WKND
The 2020 bam board is 12 in wide with all-terrain Wheels
All terrain wheels? You mean cruiser wheels? Either way just a skateboard wheel. What do you think those giys where riding in the 70s and 80s? Cruisers? They where skateboards. 78a is still a skateboard wheel even if its 62mm
I think the last full length I saw was New Blood.
Same bro I honestly couldn’t name any of the new shit that’s come out
Yeah right
New blood always comes to mind when talking full lengths. Yeah right also. There weren’t many memorable ones after that except for fully flared. The early 2000s was a much better time for skateboarding.
jpippinator
New blood always comes to mind when talking full lengths. Yeah right also. There weren’t many memorable ones after that except for fully flared. The early 2000s were a much better time for skateboarding.
New blood always comes to mind when talking full lengths. Yeah right also. There weren’t many memorable ones after that except for fully flared. The early 2000s were a much better time for skateboarding.
kelly was right, there is a highlght
Does anyone know why mike V left element ?
leon watkins streetplant
He talks about it in his Nine Club episode, the longest one they ever did and every minute of it is worth the listen.
@@Backlashed oh really il give it a watch I had his pro board it was the element with the tiger on it that was my 1st ever board from a skate shop back in the day Mike was sick back then
I have those blazers & i refuse to skate in em hahaha
cinthya tamayo shits can be dummy expensive but feel so nice
Bruh he left primitive and element then joined real WTF SPONSOR ME 😭
Mason was on Primitive?
Mason for FA
Element was my first good skateboard but when i think of element i think of bad boards but I’m sure they are the same as every other board
"another example of how Instagram is, like, fucking everything up"
How much do skaters make from their board sponsor?
tra789 Board sponsor never pay enough they always say. The only stable sponsors to have are a shoe sponsor or a big corporate one like a drink sponsor
Meth Bane But wouldn’t also depend on the board sponsor though. I would assume that like big board brands like baker, real or primitive would pay pretty good compared to smaller board brands.
$59,000-$290,000.
An un named pro for Santa Cruz a few years ago was making a grand a month...
tyler luht for how many months though
Whats the name of that snitching skateshop??? Anybodyknows?
hahahhah curiousity
why that bruh have a full glass of milk
Ikr people over 10 who drink milk are weirdos. Unless they got cookies
Nine Club always just has full drinks sitting on the counter for some odd reason.
Legendas em português plix
There are only 2 dudes left from their winning KOTR team, Madars and Nyjah. What happened over at Element?
Who's Col?
Instagram making skater dont wanna make long parts
Instagram is making skateboarders not want to make full length parts.
@@dRippppa thanks for the translation
@@iambencollins gotchu pimp.
Where tf biebel
Weck washed him so he went into hiding
Damn I know that feeling that they don’t get where you get disrespected by a company. Made zumiez over 100k within 6 months and got let go like I was a empty chip bag
100k is literally nothing to zumiez lol
you didn't make zumiez 100k just because you were the cashier for those transactions lmao, get your head out of your ass and go get a better job with actual room for growth
@@suburbanshrub6675 amen
Tyson Peterson left to
Darth Maul rolling with baker
baker is a good fit for him
Evan Smith too, everyone is leaving Element nowdays. I recently saw an interview with Tyson and he talked how Element felt more of a big corporation thing rather than a skate crew with your friends, I get his point and that's why he's on Baker now... Would love to see Mason on Creature or Real.
Semente de Maçã good shout for real 😂
Too*
PUT MASON ON FUCKING AWESOM!!!!!!
It's sad to say, but I honestly think Element: Peace will be the last great full length to ever come out. I know companies put out pseudo-full length videos on UA-cam, which are great, but I'm gonna miss anticipating a full length like back when
What’s really real
I have no hate on Element, it's just I thought Mason in my opinion didn't mesh well with Element. Now Primitive. All day. Matches perfect with Primitive. Thanks for these great interviews Nine Club. You're all legendary.
I agree he fits well with primitive
Naa he would be cool in anti-hero lol
I kinda see him on April too
@@beamerboy9562 ummm, thts the other silva tht rides for primitive. Lol
primitive is tech mason is brute they arent a match in my mind
Don’t mind the Ads when watching nine club cuz they all skate related. Yeet
Element. Poop skate shop in Waikiki. No wonder why he left. Smart guy.
Is this miles silva? I'm so confused..
Break Free no I think they just share the last name, but Miles looks completely different
Real is way better than Element. Def more respected in the skate industry.
If you quit your board sponsor you’re no longer pro...
Uuuuuuhhhhhhhhh
Jk idk
I cannot understand how anyone could go and be sponsored by Nike an absolute garbage company. Skater owned like Zero, Fallen, Straye, Emerica(and its parent company Sole Tech) and so on are the only ones that exist to me.
explain in detail why you think Nike is a garbage company without using bias or "because they didn't start out in skateboarding" or some bullshit hive mind excuse. Your most likely argument would be because it is a big corporation and skateboarding is about a counterculture movement, which would be very ironic of you to say considering you would literally be playing the role of a sheep following the hive mind "Nike is bad" mentality that many old school skaters seem to harbor. By following the collective opinion of antiNike you become the very thing you set out to defy.
It's easy, Nike checks
They make quality shoes. Let skaters wear whatever they want, what's it to you?
What happened to loyalty? Skaters just flake out after a full length, toy machine and zero riders stayed. I'm sure there are times when they weren't getting paid a lot, but they didn't just leave because they felt like it. Either way I hope big board brands don't give him a chance, he'll just leave because his friends did or they won't have the same memories like did before the full length. What a joke
Magic PizzaDough I don’t even skateboard but that is true it applies to life in general
Chris cole left after strange world
He just said he’s been riding since 13, opportunity changes and life goes on
Where's the loyalty back? Their responsibility of taking care of his schedule and making sure he would stay when other companies would pay more was non-existent. It was an afterthought. I think of it as a wonderful learning curve for element. Bet they step up their contract game a bit. He literally helped other skaters make more money. Kudos. Lol fuck your loyalty comment.
So companies just invest thousands into skaters, build up a video and they won't renew his contract? Why would a company do that? The only thing saving this pretentious pro skater is his Nike check, nobody cares about this guy until am scramble came out, he got his several months of recognition, goes pro, element comes out with a full length, and he leaves shortly after?? Let me guess, he's gonna start or ride for small "unique" skate company and it'll have trendy hipster graphics. Either way, element wasted money and time on this joke. Have fun fan girling over some faceless Nike skater
I dont think hes marketable enough for this to be a video lol
L
Lmao you gotta love when someone being salty and get proved wrong
Major L