I did aikido for two dozen years. After watching some of your videos, I realized a lot of misunderstandings... Aikido masters and students don't know what and why they are doing this... It's a rather sad fact… Greetings from sunny Vienna
There are three ways to get the menkyo kaiden scroll of mastery in aikido. 1. Sneak up on OSensei, 2. Catch a fly with chopsticks, or 3. Get Josh to smile (at ~5:30-5:35). I think that was the first one caught on tape. Congratulations Master Hein! (Just playing!)
Speaking from the untrained peanut gallery, should this move be explosive, as opposed to a graceful or floating movement? My thought is that a surprise attack from behind should be met with the same level of surprise by the defender. The defender should uncoil like a tightly wound spring would, in my opinion. Love the videos! 👍
In some respects, this video seems like the equivalent of “see Dick run” with respect to reading at large… kinda of a teaser. Nice exercise, but without a good foundation for movement, very difficult for beginners to execute well. Beginners tend to want to have a stable base, rather than “floating” and much more reactive. Good demo on your part. I would have loved to see Josh do it once or twice for contrast. (Yes, I know Josh is not a beginner. I expect there is a least a decade of experience between you two.)
@@ChuShinTani I wrote it before you said it... Getting to the back is an art in itself though... I don't think that Aikido has armdrags like Wrestling or Silat does.
Totally true. Aikido has Gaedan Burai, it's very similar to an arm drag but with a different emphasis. Not as good for wrestling, but better for escaping.
That is an excellent question! Attacks start from the front but end up from behind. In aikido there is a concept of taking an opponents back by moving to shinkaku. Literally "dead angle". Uke is moving to tori rear to make defense difficult. There are ways in training this occurs. You can meet with hands crossed and the uke runs behind tori. There is also tenkai. Think of it as sidestepping a punch or ducking a punch and moving behind "uke". These are basic moves in aikido. Compare me swinging a hook punch at your head and you duck and step behind me and catch me in a half nelson. You are at my dead angle or blindspot. After some attack (which is skipped during training) we are focusing on escaping a grab from behind. This is standard. You can add things like specific attacks if you want but martial arts tends to work better we you work individual parts separately. This allows you to focus on things you must work on. If I am training to throw hook punches I will somehow prevent you running behind me. This gives you my back so I am forced to get out of a position that I am unlikely to be in. If we were just sparring I would constantly turn preventing ushiro from occurring. During randori you have multiple people running at you and you tend to dodge or blitz past them. One of your attackers can turn and grab you from behind. This is the literal interpretation. For training one on one you have only one uke attack you so you can practice escaping being held so that if you were attacked by multiple people you would know how to escape. Things like this. There are many applications. For real I could have at least two people jump me. The first guy I throw and his is on the ground. I move and the next guy comes at me. The first guy gets up and grabs me from behind. In training we omit this throwing especially if there is only one attacker.
I did aikido for two dozen years.
After watching some of your videos, I realized a lot of misunderstandings... Aikido masters and students don't know what and why they are doing this...
It's a rather sad fact…
Greetings from sunny Vienna
The look on Josh's face at 3:52 ☺️
This is a great drill!
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching!
There are three ways to get the menkyo kaiden scroll of mastery in aikido. 1. Sneak up on OSensei, 2. Catch a fly with chopsticks, or 3. Get Josh to smile (at ~5:30-5:35). I think that was the first one caught on tape. Congratulations Master Hein! (Just playing!)
Speaking from the untrained peanut gallery, should this move be explosive, as opposed to a graceful or floating movement? My thought is that a surprise attack from behind should be met with the same level of surprise by the defender. The defender should uncoil like a tightly wound spring would, in my opinion. Love the videos! 👍
Yes, it'll be explosive. Glad you're enjoying the videos.
Were I an aikido instructor, I would just answer any question ”because ninjas”. Bloody ninjas creeping everywhere, goddammit!
Ha! I won't say I haven't thought about it...
Simple and made perfect sense. Yes sir...Aikido is for multiple attackers, one of the reasons it's so practical. Great video.
Hey Josh and Maya..😁🖐🏾
In some respects, this video seems like the equivalent of “see Dick run” with respect to reading at large… kinda of a teaser. Nice exercise, but without a good foundation for movement, very difficult for beginners to execute well. Beginners tend to want to have a stable base, rather than “floating” and much more reactive. Good demo on your part. I would have loved to see Josh do it once or twice for contrast. (Yes, I know Josh is not a beginner. I expect there is a least a decade of experience between you two.)
Now i know ushiro waza, does this work when someone tries to push you into the pool?
If you're good at it.
😂🙏
Not in wrestling? GERMAN SUPLEX!
"not that in wrestling people don't slip back there, and there are clinch positions for that."
@@ChuShinTani I wrote it before you said it...
Getting to the back is an art in itself though... I don't think that Aikido has armdrags like Wrestling or Silat does.
Totally true. Aikido has Gaedan Burai, it's very similar to an arm drag but with a different emphasis. Not as good for wrestling, but better for escaping.
@@ChuShinTani
Interesting!
If ushirowasa is attack from behind why most Aikido dojos started it facing each other and then run around opponent to attack from behind?
That is an excellent question! Attacks start from the front but end up from behind. In aikido there is a concept of taking an opponents back by moving to shinkaku. Literally "dead angle". Uke is moving to tori rear to make defense difficult. There are ways in training this occurs. You can meet with hands crossed and the uke runs behind tori. There is also tenkai. Think of it as sidestepping a punch or ducking a punch and moving behind "uke". These are basic moves in aikido.
Compare me swinging a hook punch at your head and you duck and step behind me and catch me in a half nelson. You are at my dead angle or blindspot. After some attack (which is skipped during training) we are focusing on escaping a grab from behind. This is standard. You can add things like specific attacks if you want but martial arts tends to work better we you work individual parts separately. This allows you to focus on things you must work on. If I am training to throw hook punches I will somehow prevent you running behind me. This gives you my back so I am forced to get out of a position that I am unlikely to be in. If we were just sparring I would constantly turn preventing ushiro from occurring.
During randori you have multiple people running at you and you tend to dodge or blitz past them. One of your attackers can turn and grab you from behind. This is the literal interpretation. For training one on one you have only one uke attack you so you can practice escaping being held so that if you were attacked by multiple people you would know how to escape. Things like this. There are many applications.
For real I could have at least two people jump me. The first guy I throw and his is on the ground. I move and the next guy comes at me. The first guy gets up and grabs me from behind. In training we omit this throwing especially if there is only one attacker.