Aikido takedown methods explained here! This is the method I use and teach for ude osae (arm pinning) if you enjoy my work, please consider joining my patreon page patreon.com/christopherhein
Excellent breakdown Sensei. This technique has served me well in law enforcement when trying to control but not harm the suspect. People without any ukemi training often react far differently than in the dojo, and your breakdown really teaches how to adjust for that.
Very thorough and detailed explanation of the mechanics. I appreciate the note on foot position as well as elbow manipulation. Balance is indeed of key importance in this and all things. Great video.
I love your videos but from an editing point of view, when you refer to a previous video, could you add the link in the current video? That would really help us find the right video and 'follow along at home'.
Glad you're finding my video's useful! The problem with your suggestion is that I made these video originally for my Patreon group, and many of the videos I refer to (this one included) are only on my Patreon page. Sorry for the trouble.
Hi Christopher, thanks for covering this, really helps. Would you do one session on ikkyo itself in near future since it's one of the hardest to master, or execute properly. Thank-you.
I have done several videos on ikkyo on my Patreon page: patreon.com/christopherhein some of those videos mightale it here- but I'm going to start phasing out how-to videos here on UA-cam and do more why videos. Thanks for watching.
As uke I find it "easy" to step behind nage and grab both legs and it becomes sort of a koshi reversal. (or it devolves into a scramble) With my elbow rolled it becomes easier to step behind imo. Like the pin, the arm is controlled the rest of your body is unencumbered. Sort of like this bear hug defense - ua-cam.com/video/lveBboMSe94/v-deo.html
For me is unclear the reason why you want to continue with an unlikely take down (you yourself said that in aikido there are the worse takedown, which become priority only in certain conditions, still being the worse take down) when you are in a position of advantage where you could kick, or punch him.
If you need to punch or kick them do so. Also I didn't say they were the worst take downs- they are in fact the best takedowns for some situations. It's all about what you are doing- but if you are one-on-one in a controlled environment they are not good choices.
@@ChuShinTani of course, I understood that they are the best under certain situations, it is just that if they have a knife, I wouldn't limit myself to just throw down. STRIKE FIRST, STRIKE HARD, NO MERCY :D
@@Eternaprimavera73 I once had to restrain a friend who had his ego hurt while very drunk. Understandably, it was a really humiliating thing the other person did. But what was not so reasonable was that he wanted to go back and settle the score with a weapon. There are often situations that are dangerous, but are not 100% adversarial. Where the health of your 'opponent' is also important to you. He didn't thank me as such afterwards, but he no longer wanted to end the guy after he sobered up - and he complimented my technique. So that was nice. We remained friends for a good while after that.
I had this happen during my last exam when I was suppose to be just demonstrating a basic ikkyo omote. I had a little too much adrenaline and sent my uke more forward than down, and he rolled through it. I kept my cool, and (before he got to a stable position on this back) I flipped him back over using the method more typical of kotegaeshi (the transition from throw to the pin), and finally pinned him with the elbow-crook nikyo pin. I glanced over at my instructor, and he said something to the effect of, "That wasn't ikkyo, try again," grinning as he said it. I've also been to a couple of Bruce Bookman's "Aikido Extensions" classes (also available as a video series from Aikido Journal) that handled what to do if uke does a front roll escape after being put in the facedown ikkyo pin (this escape shown repeatedly Chris Hein's older video he linked in this thread). Bookman's approach used a knee-on-belly to help reacquire ikkyo on uke's other arm, pulling uke back over, then going to the significantly more secure nikyo pin (see first paragraph). In the drill form, Bookman had us repeatedly use the ikkyo pin while uke repeats the escape, and only go to the nikyo pin when we were ready to switch roles.
Excellent breakdown Sensei. This technique has served me well in law enforcement when trying to control but not harm the suspect. People without any ukemi training often react far differently than in the dojo, and your breakdown really teaches how to adjust for that.
I liked this video and most importantly I liked your explanation. You are making me rethink aikido
Very thorough and detailed explanation of the mechanics. I appreciate the note on foot position as well as elbow manipulation. Balance is indeed of key importance in this and all things. Great video.
I love your videos but from an editing point of view, when you refer to a previous video, could you add the link in the current video? That would really help us find the right video and 'follow along at home'.
Glad you're finding my video's useful! The problem with your suggestion is that I made these video originally for my Patreon group, and many of the videos I refer to (this one included) are only on my Patreon page. Sorry for the trouble.
Great as usual! Thanks for sharing 🙏
Thanks for watching!
Great info! I believe it's a Great take down, being your timing to get the lock is right. Having options is key! Awesome Art!
Glad you enjoyed it!
I love this breakdown. Really helps!
Thanks, glad to hear it helps!
Hi Christopher, thanks for covering this, really helps. Would you do one session on ikkyo itself in near future since it's one of the hardest to master, or execute properly. Thank-you.
I have done several videos on ikkyo on my Patreon page: patreon.com/christopherhein some of those videos mightale it here- but I'm going to start phasing out how-to videos here on UA-cam and do more why videos. Thanks for watching.
@@ChuShinTani Thanks Christopher, will look out for it, cheers
As uke I find it "easy" to step behind nage and grab both legs and it becomes sort of a koshi reversal. (or it devolves into a scramble) With my elbow rolled it becomes easier to step behind imo. Like the pin, the arm is controlled the rest of your body is unencumbered. Sort of like this bear hug defense - ua-cam.com/video/lveBboMSe94/v-deo.html
For me is unclear the reason why you want to continue with an unlikely take down (you yourself said that in aikido there are the worse takedown, which become priority only in certain conditions, still being the worse take down) when you are in a position of advantage where you could kick, or punch him.
If you need to punch or kick them do so. Also I didn't say they were the worst take downs- they are in fact the best takedowns for some situations. It's all about what you are doing- but if you are one-on-one in a controlled environment they are not good choices.
@@ChuShinTani of course, I understood that they are the best under certain situations, it is just that if they have a knife, I wouldn't limit myself to just throw down.
STRIKE FIRST, STRIKE HARD, NO MERCY :D
@@Eternaprimavera73 I once had to restrain a friend who had his ego hurt while very drunk. Understandably, it was a really humiliating thing the other person did. But what was not so reasonable was that he wanted to go back and settle the score with a weapon. There are often situations that are dangerous, but are not 100% adversarial. Where the health of your 'opponent' is also important to you.
He didn't thank me as such afterwards, but he no longer wanted to end the guy after he sobered up - and he complimented my technique. So that was nice. We remained friends for a good while after that.
Why doesn't he just do a front roll to get out?
ua-cam.com/video/hws4JnWHKiA/v-deo.html
I had this happen during my last exam when I was suppose to be just demonstrating a basic ikkyo omote. I had a little too much adrenaline and sent my uke more forward than down, and he rolled through it. I kept my cool, and (before he got to a stable position on this back) I flipped him back over using the method more typical of kotegaeshi (the transition from throw to the pin), and finally pinned him with the elbow-crook nikyo pin. I glanced over at my instructor, and he said something to the effect of, "That wasn't ikkyo, try again," grinning as he said it.
I've also been to a couple of Bruce Bookman's "Aikido Extensions" classes (also available as a video series from Aikido Journal) that handled what to do if uke does a front roll escape after being put in the facedown ikkyo pin (this escape shown repeatedly Chris Hein's older video he linked in this thread). Bookman's approach used a knee-on-belly to help reacquire ikkyo on uke's other arm, pulling uke back over, then going to the significantly more secure nikyo pin (see first paragraph). In the drill form, Bookman had us repeatedly use the ikkyo pin while uke repeats the escape, and only go to the nikyo pin when we were ready to switch roles.