Afegbua, Falana, Abayomi Discuss Okuama Community Killing +More
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Thankio FALANA, you are human right lawyer innately.
Kasim Afegbua shouldn't be taken seriously. Dude speaks from both sides of his mouth. He keeps contradicting himself and I'm glad Maupe made mention of it.
He is political and a deliberate liar.
Oga, we are not one. Only corrupt looters are saying we are one in Nigeria.
Can Nigeria give account of the soldiers been lost to Boko Haram?
No news media has been able to tell Nigerians what actually happened. The military tried to mediate between the two communities then angers flayed. What did they say that made the youths to turn against the military ?
In that peaceful meeting the military killed almost 30 people
@@OpOp-uh3hnWhat!!?? you do not mean this 😮😮....
The military are yet to tell us the truth of what happened. The truth will be out shortly
Thank you so much no body is talking about that
Falana is advocating that all lives should matter in Nigeria and that collective punishment should not be meted. And I think he is correct. If you have a contrary opinion, please let us know in the comment rather than insulting someone who has been at the forefront of one Nigeria and justice for the poor
Pls forget fulani. He's part of the worst state of Nigeria today. Yoruba has destroyed Nigeria. The tribalism against Jonathan is what the country is enjoying today. The military we have today are fully of bokoharam and oil thieves in the military, and they are also busy killing innocent people
Nigeria has no security, and the little around are used by politicians for rigging elections
Those areas where soldiers were killed in the North, how many of those communities were levelled to ashes. Yoruba media doing their rubbish journalism
Yoruba has destroyed Nigeria
Emefiele is yoruba?@@okeyekeh936
Falana and Abayomi made fantastic contributions.The only odd person there is Kassim Afegbua.He sounded so hypocritical.
Where is the arm wing of police who are in charge of communal crisis? Where is police intervention team?What is the army doing in communal affair? Am very saddened. I lost a good friend.
Why is it only when soldiers are killed in the south that they suddenly remember to show their strength and fangs?! How many soldiers have been killed in the north and how many communities have been decimated in response to that?
Don't be biased
@@JummyMarcushe's speaking facts Jummy boy
God bless you. What of the over 50 people killed in the community? Will the soldiers be punished? Extrajudicial killing is a crime no matter the provocation.
Will you be in that your hut to know how soldiers are dealing with the people in the North? If the Nigeria soldiers have not been dealing with bandits and bokoharam in the North, don't you think this country would have been run over?
@@martinschis Cow hearder, please go back to my comment again and read it carefully. You will understand the point I am trying to make, unless of course your level of education is not more than that of an almajiri. If so, let me know nicely, and I will elucidate my point better. (Sorry, I am using too many big words I know you might not understand, but please use google, it is your friend).
Afegbua has to defend someone, always. It used to be a Babangida, now it is a Tinubu. So, I don't pay heed to people like him. It is wrong for Tinubu to have implicitly ordered for a reprisal attack. He didn't order direct attack on the said community, but he didn't try to prevent it before it happened. The killing of the patriotic soldiers must be condemned, in strongest terms, but so is the erasing of a whole community.
Oga, we can never be one until there is equity and justice in Nigeria.
Nobody is above the law and when some people are seen to be above the law people become law themselves.
People who reason like the guy called Kasim should not be given the platform when important national issues are being discussed. He’s immature, narrow minded and always talks divisively. He’s poorly political over everything.
You’re wrong my brother! Afegbua is an intellectual and has always spoken well to national issues. Pls stop your hate for the present government, Nigeria cannot move forward with all this negativity about the government❤
How sensible was Afegbua’s analysis today? He was talking rubb!sh
@@apostlekofipaul3258 what kind of intellectual? Political intellectual, abi? Where’s his company or school or hospital or even small farm that his intelligence has established. Get some brain, okay?
Mope and Channels forming ignorance of the military reprisal attacks on Okuama community…it’s really irritating..
God bless you Mr. Falana & Dr. Abayomi Tunji for your truthfulness on Nigeria 🇳🇬 as a nation. A lots of cracks in the Jungle called Nigeria. " The fruits of a poisonous tree 🌳 " Consequential results 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Afegbua is the architect of all he is blaming others for. He speaks and listen to himself and the opposite at same time.
Mr Falana and Dr Abayomi really are very human rights activists that both objectively spoke on National coherence on Communal issues.
To Chief Afegbua, most unfortunate he spoke totally out of point as far as communual conflicts are concerned.
Nigeria can rise unconditionally if rights are done at the right time.
There is no love and justice in nation. 😢😢😢
When i listened to Tinubu ordering soldiers to fish out the killers of the soldiers instead of police. I sensed that he is indirectly telling the soldiers to go after the community.
I disagree. Realistically and practically, would you let the police go after criminals who mutilated army leaders and soldiers(16 of them) including reinforcements that came. No one was spared. I think it’s another suicide mission to let the police we all know are incapable to handle this. Boko haram fighters are not military but armed civilians like these, you don’t disagree with the president’s many orders to go after them including the recents in Kaduna, Borno etc. The caution for the army is to avoid collateral damage.
...so you wanted us to explain it to you in your mother's tongue 😝
He is pandering to them so that they don't overthrow his Government
Something triggered this excessive reaction of the Okoama youths. What is it? We all have rights to self defense. So were the military men shooting civilians before the yourths responded? Were the soldiers compromised? Were youths from opponents in military uniforms and among the military? Who are the big men buying and funding?
My heart goes out to the soldiers who lost their lives but I just want to know what transpired between the soldiers and the attackers. I mean,shouldn’t there be an investigation and perpetrators brought to book rather than erasing the whole village.
Afegbua is looking for positions in this government. He is always economical with the truth.
In your own opinion abi??
Kasim is president spoke man, he shouldn't be given platform anymore cos we are out election.
Is it a crime to be a Nigerian citizen ?
A country where human life's matters nothing..
Please God help we your children.
What is south south Afegbu? Is not your so south south is fighting each other? Referendum is only way out. Nigeria should allow Biafra to go.
What exactly was the intercommunal dispute about? How far have they gone gone in local dispute resolution before the soldiers? Who even invited the military to the dispute? What did the soldiers do that infuriated the youth?
Where was the second party in the dispute if the army were going to be the mediator/peace maker
Yes; the second Community. If it is actualy a peace mission, the army should have united the two communities executives to their base in the presense of the police which is the normal practice. Remember that if you sow a wind, you Will reap a whirlwind. Why Will innoscent members of the Community be purnished for the sins of a few by raising the entire village? Sambissa and Birnin Gwari are still there n the north.
Abayomi, where has this erudite barrister been? It has been long I saw him on television. I enjoy his rational analysis of public affairs. Kudos, sir!
God bless the lady journalist, when "Clannishness" favours you as a tool, it becomes patriotism
Thank you Falana for bringing sanity into the debate. The debate on Arise futuring Dumebi Kachikwu was devoid of commonsense.
This Kasim is too bias for my liking. His opinion is alway contradictory and narrow.
Femi Falana always thanks he has solutions to every challenge in Nigeria. He's more of a rabble rouser to me.
It's his opinions supported by law. Give your silly opinion and let's check your intelligence level
Nigeria is a country of absolute Injustices...that is what Mr afubuwa is saying.
The Military and security AGENCIES should be citizenry friendly and work hard to gain the citizens confidence by being non partisan like its done in germany where i leave. Problem solved.
Was expecting a military personnel to talk on this matter
AfeguAbayomi and Falana are correct. Afegbua is an also non challah about the situation. When there is no rule of law, anything can happen. It’s sad that people don’t realize that.
Dr Tunji Abayomi is hitting the nail on the head, all these are symptoms of bigger national problem.
God Bless you Mr Falana
Confusion in Nigeria is too much. It’s causing so much problem because it stems from the lack of truth over the years. Sad.
My own take is dat this could be sabotage it could be the neighbouring village dat they hve land dispute with dat ambushed the military no body will want to set his hometown on fire by commiting dis heinous crimes in their community
Dr tunji is exceptionally grandad in saying the truth, but the gutter yoruba media could not allow him to make his points
Then change the constitution that military are now Nigeria police as well
Please on what capacity is this kasim Afegbua been invited to speak on national issues?
Ksssim,, well said sir.
It’s Nigeria in submission every issue has remote causes but we always like to trim leaves and leave the roots for a re occurrence . We lack investigative capacity to grow be these issues proper justice
It was quite unfortunate, to hear about such dastardly incidents perpetrated against very civil military men, who went there primarily, for peace making purposes. But, if the press can hear me, the actual name of the village where this incident occurred, is OKUBO-AMA; not "Okuama", please. "Okuama " is an adulterated version of the village's name.
They exposed afegbuwa as a hypocrite
Where are the psychological teams who can help these people.
The only balanced discussion on this matter.
Mr Yomi, we all knows there is problem and the problem is our leaders and the system implementation and wrong interpretations.
The rule of law requires attitudes: adjustments in country.❤ is needed with self respect.
Rules of engagement should prevail
Typical yoruba mumu, make una no worry una time dey come enjoy now while it last
I my uncles regards my existence, I will always respect him ,honor him and protect him as I can. If my uncles refused to protect me as my uncles, that is the misunderstanding comes in
I sympathise with relatives of all those that hv lost their lives. I Falana knows what is best for this country, he should stop all this criticism but join politics which enables him to prove his worth. He is not being sincere with the people of this country. He can never be compared with Dele Giwa or that famous human rights lawyer Gani Fawehinmi of blessed memory.
He's only asking for a measured and lawful response/ investigation. Don't be a purveyor of genocide son.
so the Nigerian military lacks intel to help guide the killed soldiers towards their peacekeeping mission. it's such a mess.
Ive asked about the intelligence of the Nigerian Army. Tóo pathetic.
What type of camera does Channel use? Their production is blurry, and plain dull to the eyes. More so, the use of " Channels Television " on the screen is distracting.
Everything Afegbua said is just nonsense. It’s hard to understand what theory or principles he is operating from. We are a democracy which has rule of law as our cornerstone. Where is the police, where is the judiciary? Why must Tinubu ignore the the police but prefer to use the military as against civil law. I overheard him talking about constitutional restructuring last time . But I am convinced Tinubu knows nothing about that subject!
Sir how long are we going to continue like this when will the truth be said and corrections be made
We can't be one sir.
That the work of the police was given to the army to do highlights the state of confusion in the leadership and management of Nigeria.
When we don’t have a system yet must we fold our hands then we use what we know for now to handle such things.
This man falana is economical in his response.
Who ordered them to intervene?
Whatever that took them there, is no longer relevant. The people of Okuama have committed murder and they must be charged as such.
Who ordered the soldiers to the village?
@lastman9138 my question too who ordered the soldiers to the village? all this journalist dont ask that question, the government is not telling us truth
Oh! We could not even heard what the President said. Too much pressure on him but he has refused to give up.
However Nigerians are going through uncountable pain from all spheres of life.
Is it a curse to be a Nigerian, we are full of fears in all areas you look at it.
May the Souls of Our Gallant Soldiers and innocent Nigerians Rest in Perfect Peace.
Too bad and very unfortunate.
People are asking why army was sent and not police. If they were living during ODI time where 12 police OFFICERS were sent to Odi and the twelve of them modered. If that had once happened, would you expected another Government of the same country still send policemen on such Peace Mission?
People were blaming Obasanjo. I think he should be praised for his method. When it freshly happened, Obasanjo did not say, get the criminals for me. He waited for a long time for the criminals to think Government had forgotten about the incident. It was then he told his soldiers to get the CRIMINALS for him dead of alive. He did not say go and destroy Odi.
But even with his method, this criminals still got a wave of it and they all ran away leaving their own people to the problems.
I did not read the judgement on the issue, and know who and who were indicted. Obásanjó shouldn't have been blame. For I want to ask, if Government was made to pay compensation to the Village, what happened to the criminals? I see the judgement to be one sided. 99b naira was paid to Odi, were all the criminals fished out and KILLED?
Oh, what if these soldiers happens to be our relations? This is my question!
Too sad for lives lost .illicit guns everywhere in Nigeria..
If same manner is used in the North,then Nigeria would make a way
Now innocent people would be killed in those communities by avenging soldiers
OMG Are you saying it is your time to "CHOP"
Nigerian security agents, especially the Nigerian Army shouldn’t be sent to any community for any peace mission. Secondly, it’s also very wrong to be sending Hausa or Fulani led soldiers or police to head any missions to South East or South South! That’s not a peace mission but an invasion of the community.
Even in the western world, law enforcement agencies try to use officers that can relate easily with a people when peace is intended! Nigeria is not one! We are ethnically diverse as there’s no such thing as Nigeria! At least not yet. If the army has a mission in south east, they should send majority Igbo officers led by an Igbo commander. Same as south south and the rest. Sending a Northern soldier to the former Biafran region is rather provocative than peaceful. Know this today and know peace!
In all this no one is talking about the innocent people of the community who have eventually lost their livelihood as a result of the burning down of the community and how do you punishment those involved in the burning.
This is what happened when your argument is driven by misinformation. Falana talked about reprisal, and his point was driven by the fake video circulating on reprisal. There was no reprisal, the video posted was old from Bayelsa state. Falana talks crap sometimes
My mind is telling me say na oil issue oh,why will 2 community fight
You are right
But you are right and nothing more to it
This Kazeem Afegbua Is síck.
Mr Afegbua’s manner of speaking is disappointing. Very unfortunate that this is the thinking of a lawmaker.. we have a long way to go as a nation
Apc government and Nigeria military want a community in nija delta to treating other fighting freedom, the first was Obasanjo now tinubu, i blame leaders of our region for not standing up for their people
I pray the Lord comfort the families of the deceased & grant rest to the departed. When peace meetings are taking place both representatives of the waring factoons are supposed to be present & the meeting should preferably take place in a neutral ground like the meeting btw USA and Afgan Taliban brokered by Qatar. Alot of things don't seems to add up.
Fanala, thank you for lecturing the useless reporter out there.
I don't really believe it is true that military intervention is required in certain cases involving civil matters. Civil matters can be handled by the Police and DSS alone even if it means going back to the drawing board, go back and get more intel or get more equipped and backed up and work objectively and intelligently with the community leaders. We should stop involving the Military in purely civil matters as there is always the tendency it degenerates or escalates to even more violence. They are not trained for civil negotiations , dialogue etc they are trained to fight.
No blood is less or more important
Please let us know what happened that the soldiers went for a peace talk.
A land that has been peaceful before now
There is something fishing.
The killings of the soldiers need to be investigated by the police by the provision of the law and the Governor of the state should give us reports on a day to day.
This matter weak me shall😢
I don't know why Africa doesn't change, we've been talking thesame way all these years, and nothing has changed and yet we're not changing system, the truth is not government, the truth is: we're forced together to be one,and it's glaring that we are not one,all these grammar will not solve any problem, it's easy to stay in the studio to criticize government, but if Falana himself is in power thesame thing will happened, if police was there they would have killed more police than the way they killed soldiers
Mr Falana we disagree with you on this matter, even if police got the killers of our dear soldiers should got apprehended and arraigned will there not be some corrupt lawyers coming to defend them which in similar & such cases wil end in a way that those culprits will end up serving a limited period of jail terms & set free in the end.🥺😢
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This guy in black suit and red tie is just talking from tribal point of view.
If a community where this happened don’t support the act, their leaders should have gathered them, fish out the criminals and immediately hand them over to the authorities without prompting. Anything short of that is aiding and abetting for which Nigeria will declare a war against that section of the people. If the people have respect for the Nigerian people, they should have stood up to protect the soldiers from harm in the community. They should have some of their people sacrificed their lives to protect the soldiers in their community. A case study is how Adekunle Fajuyi paid the ultimate sacrifice to protect the Yoruba people when the Head of State was to be killed in our land.
It's very difficult to hand pick these guys out as it is in cases of disruption of peace and order. Besides, the main culprit must have fled
So what are the soldiers still doing ìn the north all these years'? The Northern elders forum should have handled the Boko-haram members to the Nigerian Army?
Are you even sensible? Why are the Northern Elders not fishing out the bandits and kidnappers in the North?
Your narrative is a false equivalency. The Bandits don’t live in any community, don’t fight for any community and are not being protected by any community. They live in the bushes/ forests and attack the communities. That is why there are no community leaders are responsible for them.
What really prompted these non actors to attack these soldiers? Did the soldiers crossed red lines against these crim*nals as they may think? These guests and journalists are avoiding more informations on what really happened. These non actors should be fished out.
With this happening it tells all mass of Nigerians that we as people of so called Nigeria has no govern for the peoples for the peoples that is true truth truthfully? Our GOD is always in heaven watching over all things happening around for long periods then now why? Beca injustices atrocities against humans rights always done in armys of Nigeria for too much long, longer years; Talk about Odih Zaki-bam Asaba now Obaloma Delta states we are not talking about Biafran freedoms since 1966- 70s; Genocide again, again?? 😭😭👿👺👹
It’s unfortunate that Nigeria is lost. NO CHAIN OF COMMAND IN ALL FACETS OR BREECHES OF COMMAND IN THE COUNTRY. All over the world, military forces are last option. Where are police reports, MOPOL reports,community’s reports before involving the military. Where in a sane country that they have been without bloodshed? In Nigeria the military is the first line responders and last line offenders. Every life line in Nigeria is military forces by land, sea, air ,AI and Herders. How can we know the uncompromising truth in situations like this. What were the military doing there and who sent them, other than the enemies of the opposing side(s). Did you know or find the perpetrators? Never. Therefore collateral damage as a result. Operation No Mercy, after all who will intervene other than what we present and the so-called press gagged.
No gree for anybody 😂
The military first attacked the people
Complete leadership failure.
All these are signs of a failed state until we realize dat ND start talking of how to disintegrate or divide into regions all those in govt are helping to fuel all these they do not care Abt people only how to loot u can talk till they kingdom come all these problems can not end think of military salary which gadgets ND technology are they deploying in their work
Falana, you are wrong. Killing a soldier is not equal to killing a person. They attacked our symbol. You don’t treat the killing of a person as you treat the killing of a soldier.
The First World War was cause by the killing of a diplomat not just an individual. There are differences in murders, every persons are not necessarily the same when they symbolize something.
Femi falana as a legal luminary was talking from the point of view of law.He is right.Under our criminal jurisprudence, they have the same punishment.
Who is this man?u have a long way to learn
@raufuoseni2159 you are wrong can you create one life? in the sight of God all life are equal, they must be an investigation what lead to the killing of the soldiers nobody talks about that no journalist can ask that question, the government is not telling us the truth, every life matters
The truth is, in the absence of big grammar, the police has lost its respect by the people, that's why you can't send the police. Funny thing is, it all falls back as the fault of the government. If you want the police to gain its respect back, there has to be a reform or restructuring of some sort in the police.
Did you call Afegbua here to launder the dirty garments of Akpabio?
This Kasim Afegbua is a typically confused regular Nigerian politician. With due respect, perhaps he shouldn't be invited to the studio on security and or sensitive related issues.
WHO KILLED NIGERIANS IN LEKKI ON 20-10-2020.
While I unequivocally condemn the killing of the soldiers, I think Tinubu was unreasonable in the call. Who had made similar calls on the northern communities where boko haram and bandits have been having shows with the lives of pur soldiers? Is this not selective judgment and punishment? Where are the political figures in the state?
Nigeria as a country is a joke
I dont agree with mr falana, if this officer are to be his son will he say this
Baba Falana,I can't understand what you are saying really,were not the police that was sent to Odi? were they not likewise murdered by those beasts in human regalia?.So we better take the matter of police should have been sent in place army out of this matter.If even you send road marshall these beasts called humans will do the same thing.