I was so excited when my grandparents came over with their new Judge. They thought they bought a Pontiac Tempest with a thrift 6 because the salesman said “don’t worry about MPG with this Baby” My Grandfather spoke poor english and didn’t read english he was Canadian. My Mother told them in French they bought a muscle car and that meant nothing to them. My Grandmother loved the Gold color
I found some info on your question of the Ram Air 4 vs. the 455, apparently the Ram Air 4 idled very loudly and roughly and was difficult to park (especially in confined areas like inside parking garages as a tiny tap on the gas you can go from a rough idle right into a wall!!) So, basically the Ram Air 4 was sold primarily for "Racers". The 455 was a very smooth engine in comparison. These were the days of engines without electronic engine management/monitoring so combined with old ignition systems points/condensers were also a challenge to keep in tune...
Thank you so much for sharing all that information this car was apparently a tribute car found out after the fact that I did not have ram air four it had base engine in it..
www.conceptcarz.com/profile/29578,752/1965-pontiac-tempest-lemans.aspx It could mean that but what it meant from Pontiac what is grand tempest option or groovy tempest option Introducing 63 for the 64 model year It gets really confusing with that
@@What.its.like. DeLorean borrowed the acronym 'GTO' from a car winning races in Europe, the Ferrari 250 GTO. The three letters were the abbreviation for Gran Turismo Omologato ('grand tourer homologated') meaning certified for racing in the grand tourer class. When used on the ORDER sheet for a Tempest, GTO stood for Grand Tempest Option. The ORDER sheet is different than what DeLoren had it mean.
Thank you so much for pointing that out a lot of people are going to scrutinize the whole GTO thing because a lot of sources took the easy way out and said that GTO stood for grand Turismo omologato which that’s what the Ferrari GTO stands for but that’s not with a Pontiac GTO stand for Grand Tempest option or groovy Tempest option Really try to leave no stone stone unturned a lot of times though it gets hard because there are people that work underneath the bigger people by John Dorian Virgil Exner Bill Mitchell and the smaller people don’t get recognized
@@What.its.like. Jim Wanger's superb book, Glory Days, covers the GTO creation, Royal Pontiac 'cheater' cars for the Car and Driver review as well as what schmucks 3/4 of the Monkees were. It's an epic read that shatters several myths of the from before the muscle car era to the tape-stripe psuedo-muscle car era.
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I remember these cars pulling up to us at stop lights when I was a kid. I would be galking at these bad ass cars dreaming at the day I would get my Lic. and owning one of these. I never got one of these but my first car was a 69' Ply. Road Runner instead.
This car was an awesome moment when getting to drive this one =) it drove like they portrayed the bandit to drive this car will run circles around the bandit
The figures I have seen list Corvette as the fastest muscle car at 13.8 quarter. Don't know if it was 427 or 454. Most muscle cars were in the 14s. My 70 Eldorado is just outside of 14s. Chevelle, Cutlas, Pontiac were all too heavy to be fast. You could get the same engine/trans in a Camaro or Firebird with less weight. MOPAR had light Demons, Dusters, Cudas, Challengers with powerful engines. The 64 GTO was a beast, light wt. in Tempest(Chevy II) body.
I to am from Pittsburgh, my dad had a green 70 judge, I was actually almost born in back seat in May of 1979, in Pittsburgh, my dad actually had the 120 mph speedometer and it actually broke when he first bought the car and was going well over 120 lol..and the windows leaked like hell at car wash, the back window cranks always came off, the door buzzer is absolutely heinous sounding, the shoulder belts on headliner always came off also, but the gto judge is my dream car..I cried all day when my dad sold his in 1986 for only 4500$ The car was supposed be mine when I got older, I was devastated, now I hope one day to get enough money to buy my own!
Awesome your from close by =) I’m sorry that happened to you I hope you can get one someday, don’t give up they are out there and could be had, cheaper than you think
Excellent video. While I have a preference for the '68 and '69 Judge (especially the convertible), the 1970 model is one of the best of the era. Well done.
Yeah I can’t believe that Zach didn’t wanna drive it he’s going to be on the channel more often one of the biggest most hyped up muscle cars a lot of people think it’s the fastest muscle car of the muscle car era and he did not want to drive it.. Little bit of insider information the bandit is going to be featured on here probably next week and there’s going to be a comparison episode between the two of them the judge drove how Smokey and the bandit portrayed the bandit car but the bandit car does not live up to anywhere close to the judge.. The bandit car is a very very cushy ride it’s not a bad car it’s just not fast like the movie portrays it to be Witchy woman was an excellent guest but that’s not the name of this song
It was a blast to drive I didn’t drive it like an idiot and still got the job done A lot of people say this was the best possibly the fastest muscle car of the muscle car era definitely lived up to that
I was always led to believe that before 1970 only the full-size GM cars could have engines larger than 400 c.i. The first GTO's came from the factory with the 389 V8, which had been around for a few years. However, the first GTO's which were sent out for testing had 421 V8's. Because external dimensions were identical, the 389 and 421 were identical by sight. Chevrolet pulled off the tickiest slight of hand when it introduce the new 396 "big-block" in late 1965, the engines were actually 402 c.i. So, in 1966, Chevy introduced the SS396 to it's "A" body cars and in 1967 on their new Camaro. Because it was actually a 402, it was the largest engine in a GM "A" and "F" bodies before 1970. It was also available in the Nova 3rd generation "X" body. For 1967, GM started loosening up and the GTO was allowed to have a 400 c.i. engine. It's too bad that the trunk liner is missing. Power brakes were optional but most GM cars that had front disc brakes had power brakes. With a manual transmission, engine braking helped stopping the car.
@@What.its.like. Jan and Dean had a song called My Mighty GTO. And you are correct that Ronny and the Daytonas had the most popular version of Little GTO. 🫢
Hey Jay, thanks for sharing another great video!!! When I was a kid one of our neighbors bought a new GTO Judge in 1969 it was dark green (a very popular color back then). It had the 400cid. engine with a 3 speed manual!!! He took a couple of us neighborhood kids for a ride & it was certainly fast!!! 👍👍🙂
I had a school friend who had a 71 Goat. It was a really nice car - 400, 4 speed, 12 bolt rear with posi carrier. Metallic brown with saddle interior and roof. You mentioned the 3 speed trans which I believe was standard. The 4 speed was an option that most folks went for. I believe it was standard on the Judge. The GM 455 cubed motors were all different. I had a 73 Riviera with the 455. Buick is the only GM car with the oil pump outside the motor. BTW.... that Riv did the 1/4 in 14.9 seconds with some tuning and carb tricks.😉
This judge is unbelievably awesome.. lived up to the hype and passed it.. was great to drive, power steering was great, sometimes Power steering back in the day seemed big and over assisted but it was absolutely spot on in this car.. I was talking to a GTO owner and he was telling me that the gas pedal in those is cable driven as opposed to linkage driven the gas pedal in this car is so white a lot of times with older muscle cars especially with the linkage ones if you get a really heavy return spring sometimes it’s really hard to push down I hate that this car did not have that this car felt like you were pushing out a piece of pedal and the gas pedal came back up immediately.. I need to work on getting to be more vocal when I have these thoughts while in the car =)
My uncle had I think a 1971 metallic green GTO Judge with Hood-mounted tachometer, it looked so cool… everybody in the family wanted to go for a ride and the car was so mad … one day his driver took her for a spin but sadly lost control on Lebanon mountain roads and lost his life in the accident RIP
You listed "Direbird" in you Pontiac model listing but not the actual "Trans Am". Yes it was a Firebird but it stood as it's own Model IMHO. LOL. Thank you for the fun video!
Oh man these cars are super cool! 😎 I don't remember seeing one on the road when I was a kid, even though I was like five when it was produced, but I do remember seeing a lot of other cool cars from different eras,; including as similar orange colored '69 or '70 Mach 1, that one of my older brothers friends owned. I remember that I did have the Hot Wheels version of The Judge, the orange Mach 1, and some other cool ones as well. The orbital orange color on this is really awesome!🤩 When I see this car now I always associated with "Dazed and Confused" which is one of my old favorites, with that super cool opening of The Judge in slow mo' and of course Sweet Emotion blaring!😍
Some say this was the best muscle car EVER.. ( not counting the Shelby cobra or de matso pantera, which I wouldnt call muscle cars).. I didn’t floor it off the line but I believe the 5 seconds 0-60 has a great sound that didn’t come all the way through (sound didn’t pick up which was ashame) we got the bandit car as well that episode is coming next week
3.73 was a standard performance diff. Better acceleration but still able to cruise the freeway. A 4.10 was a pure drag race diff. Not common on the street. Z 28s had 3.73. 3.50s were common in towing packages. Most cars had 2.73s for mpg and easy freeway cruising. They get around it now with 6,8,9 speed transmissions. On the old GMs you could get a close ratio or wide ratio trans. Not real sure what the difference is. Bigger rpm drop between shifts. 4 speeds had much higher insurance costs than automatics.
Nice era perfect styling, and the colour is fantastic. Can you get that colour in a car today? Would it look anywhere near as good? I view a modern parking lot as having around 6 + body styles and subdued colours, some are so muted and bland they are anonymous. I have to agree about the Shelby's, they were high-end race speced-haulers, fast and better in a corner. Modern cars are so much safer, so beautiful slim and elegant steering wheels (such as this) are out, as are most of the body contours and all the treats that make it a delight. We haven't even mentioned CD yet, for economy.
GTO stands for Gran Turismo Omaglogo, a orbit orange GTO judge was featured in the film Two Lane Blacktop, 1971. That judge is probably worth 500.000 bucks minimum. Devil woman by cliff Richards
You mean Ronnie and the Daytona’s.. I had to look it up one day because I thought Brian Wilson wrote that song and gave it to them as a hit turns out I was wrong about that, But if memory serves me correct Brian Wrote little old lady from Pasadena gave it to Jan and Dean and that turned into a hit I believe he wrote surf city too
The Fun Fact Was the Orbit Orange Judge Was Featured Twice on Adam 12 , Two Back Top , The Feature car Opening on Beretta ,And Dazed And Confused All the Same Car .
When I was in the military I had a buddy who said he had a GTO and he said he could just watch the gas gauge go from “full” to “empty”. 🤭 I understand that they were gas hogs but he might have been stretching it just a bit. 🤔🤷♂️
I really don't understand why the 455 had less power than the 400 but I think it had to do with Pontiac engineers looking into the near future with government restrictions and new emissions coming for 1971. Pontiac knew their 400 wasn't going to handle the emission equipment for the 71 model years and probably saw the 455 as a better chance to still have decent performance but also meet the new government standards. Hence why they switched to the 455 as the new true performance option as the 400 kept getting defanged. 70 was the last year for high compression engines so more cubic inches were needed for 71.
Yeah I’ve often wondered that as well it just doesn’t make sense why a smaller engine would make more power than a bigger engine. Or why they would replace a smaller engine with a bigger engine that makes less power.
I missed hearing you mention the story about how The Judge was named. The Judge was inspired by a running gag on the 1969 Rowan and Martin's "Laugh In" program. Sammy Davis, Jr. played a court judge character compete with robe and wig. His by-line was, "Here comes the Judge". The skits were enormously popular. ua-cam.com/video/iMJOdLZaKE0/v-deo.html
Thank you so much for all of the added information I didn’t hit it in detail because the name goes back to 68 or 69 I couldn’t get a definitive answer on when it came out thank you so much for adding this information =)
It meant different things to different cars here’s a link those abbreviations could be different things facebook.com/groups/707697117215381/permalink/890340992284325/?mibextid=S66gvF
@@What.its.like. John DeLorean wanted to produce a powerful car. looking at a prototype of the 1964 LeMans Coupe, Delorean suggested they add a 389-cubic-engine to it. This would replace the standard engine and As a result, it became the first GTO. But, DeLorean had to get around a GM internal policy that vehicles must have 10 pounds of vehicle weight per cubic inch of engine displacement. Their GTO violated GM's mandate. Delorean found the edict had a loophole. The displacement limit referred to base engines only. As long as they offered the GTO as a package for the LeMans, they wouldn't be going against the company's policy. The Pontiac GTO was unveiled to the public in 1963 as an option to the 1964 LeMans. In 1964, buyers could purchase it. It was an option ONLY because GM would not allow it as a "stand alone" car unless it weighed more which is the only reason.
After further investigation this is a really good GTO tribute turns out does not have the numbers matching engine that would be associated with ram air for it’s actually a 290 hp 400 but it still moves pretty good for 290hp
Nice try man but your ET's are inaccurate across the board. Refer to original, period road tests. The base, 455 HO and RAIII cars were no where near as quick as you have noted. Most were low 7 second 0-60, and upper 14's - low 15's in the quarter. The 455 HO auto, for example, was a mid 7 second 0-60, and mid 15's in the quarter. The only one that is close to what you show is the RAIV. RAIV cars had 3:90 standard & up numerically (optional) gears. RAIV GTO's were high 5 second 0-60, low 14 second cars stock (high 13's with slicks and a good driver) 3:55's were standard gearing w/o air and w/ a manual on base GTO's including The Judge. That is not a RAIV in the car. Color is Orbit Orange, that's the optional Rally steering wheel, and it is not a shaker hood. That motor sounds like a sled; I'm guessing not a 70 400.
The question you asked, why pay for a 455, when a 400 made more power? Depends on what you wanted to do with the car. A RAIII is a good eng., and a RAIV a great one. 'Specially for racing. For driveability, the 455 with all it's torque could move that heavy tank around much easier than the 400s. And in order to appreciate that, you would need-ta drive both cars for an extended period of time to appreciate it. And I hope the owners pulls those "RAIV" stickers off the hood. It's embarrassing.
@@What.its.like. Dyno runs are on paper too, but engs making less power on paper sometimes will beat those on the track. There are variables that sometimes paper can't account for.
The 455 made huge torque- but don't even think revving it past 5000 rpm. They were fragile as hell. Had one in my 70 GTO. The power was there, but the 400- even the base 400 engines were much much better; and held together better. The 71-72 455 HO was better; better heads, aluminum intake, just a better motor. The 455 SD is by far the best, and strongest. The 70 GTO was heavy and the 455 gave the illusion of power. You could punch it a 30 and bake the tires.
@@user-vn6vx6rf7d Most Pontiac V8s were restricted to 5500, because of the cast rods, 400, or 455. Still the long stroke 455 in a heavy car was the better choice for a street car. The HOs were better, but still were restricted to 5500 because of the crap rods. All SDs had forged rods, but good luck finding a set. I'll still take a std 455 in a 70 goat, over "any" 400, for street application. Just gutta know its limitations.
That was for the Ferrari gto.. Delorean wanted the letter to mean something different found in this article. Abbreviations can mean different things. facebook.com/groups/707697117215381/permalink/890340992284325/?mibextid=S66gvF Next Gto episode I’ll put source in video
Here is where I got majority of the information and sources are contradicting en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pontiac_GTO www.automobile-catalog.com/make/pontiac/gto_2gen/gto_2_hardtop_the_judge/1970.html#gsc.tab=0 www.conceptcarz.com/s8904/pontiac-gto.aspx
@@What.its.like. Wikipedia isn't always correct, so I'll help clear things up (in order of appearance): There was no 63 GTO, first year was 64 - The 389 was available in all full-size Pontiacs - Grand Tempest Option is not what GTO stands for, it was Gran Turismo Omologato - Where you're showing the engines, the RA III you show is in a Firebird, not a GTO. They had totally different air cleaner setups as well as the engine code - Base rear axle ratio was 3:55, and 4.33 was the most extreme - engine shown while discussing RA IV appears to be a RA III or 455 with HO/RA exhaust manifolds - engine shown while discussing 455 HO is from a Trans Am - the 455 HO was rated at 360hp - - - The car you were featuring was nice enough, but had some issues I could see but won't elaborate.Thanks!
Doesn’t look like a real Judge, the exhaust manifolds are the regular ones used on the non Ram Air, the outside mirrors are incorrect, the correct set up is a single driver side only square chrome mirror.
you need to do better research the first model year for the GTO was 1964 (probably introduced in late 63) the Pontiac 400 is 4.12 bore(not the small chevy 400 4.125 bore) x 3.75 stroke =399.938 CID= 6.5 Ltr don't believe me check the 67 and 68 front fender badge the Ram Air IV had a much better cam and better flowing heads than a 455 HO especially the early D port HOs Pontiac outright lied about the RA IV 400s HP dyno tests of factory RA IVs show better than 500 HP the RA IV was a bad ass engine and very rare
It could mean different things So many people get bent out of shape about that.. Other abbreviations that mean different things www.englishclub.com/glossaries/abbreviations-multi.php
Hey Jay , wonderful car ! Lol , your just a little nervous while driving . It looks like it took you out for a spin ! Well considering the cost and the fact that you don't drive those type of cars everyday it is to be expected. You got a nice job . Get more subscribers so you can then put your gto on layaway .
I was a little nervous but not as nervous as driving the viper and cobra I work at that classic car dealership and get to take the cars out to see if they need anything like pull to the left and right just cautious.. if one wrecks a new car it’s replaceable I drove a $100,000 409 a few months back wreck that and it’s not replaceable
I love this car the only thing that I didn’t like about it the clutch was great and the pickup was gear I didn’t like the shift action it was notch and couldn’t tell if it was in gear part of the time it was weird like you to force it in gear I don’t know it was that was the only downer about that car everything else was great.. and it could have been that car not being driven and lose up over time
Devil Woman - Cliff Richard
You got it love that song it goes with the car
@@What.its.like. the humbler. Got a tiger tail. From dealer and put it on. My. Stingray
I was so excited when my grandparents came over with their new Judge. They thought they bought a Pontiac Tempest with a thrift 6 because the salesman said “don’t worry about MPG with this Baby” My Grandfather spoke poor english and didn’t read english he was Canadian. My Mother told them in French they bought a muscle car and that meant nothing to them. My Grandmother loved the Gold color
Great story thank you so much for sharing that story what a great memory =)
I bet your Granddaddy knew better. Mine was about 80 and told Mamma that the Mercury Merauder was just a luxury package Grand Marquis .
I found some info on your question of the Ram Air 4 vs. the 455, apparently the Ram Air 4 idled very loudly and roughly and was difficult to park (especially in confined areas like inside parking garages as a tiny tap on the gas you can go from a rough idle right into a wall!!) So, basically the Ram Air 4 was sold primarily for "Racers". The 455 was a very smooth engine in comparison. These were the days of engines without electronic engine management/monitoring so combined with old ignition systems points/condensers were also a challenge to keep in tune...
Thank you so much for sharing all that information this car was apparently a tribute car found out after the fact that I did not have ram air four it had base engine in it..
A few corrections: GTO - Gran Turismo Omologato (borrowed from Ferrari). First year was 1964.
www.conceptcarz.com/profile/29578,752/1965-pontiac-tempest-lemans.aspx
It could mean that but what it meant from Pontiac what is grand tempest option or groovy tempest option
Introducing 63 for the 64 model year It gets really confusing with that
@@What.its.like. DeLorean borrowed the acronym 'GTO' from a car winning races in Europe, the Ferrari 250 GTO. The three letters were the abbreviation for Gran Turismo Omologato ('grand tourer homologated') meaning certified for racing in the grand tourer class. When used on the ORDER sheet for a Tempest, GTO stood for Grand Tempest Option. The ORDER sheet is different than what DeLoren had it mean.
THANK YOU for properly crediting the GTO creation and not taking the lazy route of giving everything to DeLorean!
Thank you so much for pointing that out a lot of people are going to scrutinize the whole GTO thing because a lot of sources took the easy way out and said that GTO stood for grand Turismo omologato which that’s what the Ferrari GTO stands for but that’s not with a Pontiac GTO stand for Grand Tempest option or groovy Tempest option
Really try to leave no stone stone unturned a lot of times though it gets hard because there are people that work underneath the bigger people by John Dorian Virgil Exner Bill Mitchell and the smaller people don’t get recognized
@@What.its.like. Jim Wanger's superb book, Glory Days, covers the GTO creation, Royal Pontiac 'cheater' cars for the Car and Driver review as well as what schmucks 3/4 of the Monkees were. It's an epic read that shatters several myths of the from before the muscle car era to the tape-stripe psuedo-muscle car era.
Great information I’ll have to check that book out for sure it came up a lot of times whenever I was googling people
I had a '68, 350hp, with the TH400 and a 2:56 rear end, all original stock. Clocked at 141 mph at the Fayetteville speedway in 1987
That’s impressive with a 2:56 =)
Your eclecticism is a delight, I never know what you will come up with next. Okay, so it's the Stressed 'you' before the present day price, and the 'toodle ooh' and the eclecticism that made me subscribe
Thank you some one told me early that I had to watch how I said YOU so I emphasize it try to keep things interesting
I'm gonna save up my money.....and. Buy a GTO
I remember these cars pulling up to us at stop lights when I was a kid. I would be galking at these bad ass cars dreaming at the day I would get my Lic. and owning one of these. I never got one of these but my first car was a 69' Ply. Road Runner instead.
This car was an awesome moment when getting to drive this one =) it drove like they portrayed the bandit to drive this car will run circles around the bandit
The figures I have seen list Corvette as the fastest muscle car at 13.8 quarter. Don't know if it was 427 or 454. Most muscle cars were in the 14s. My 70 Eldorado is just outside of 14s. Chevelle, Cutlas, Pontiac were all too heavy to be fast. You could get the same engine/trans in a Camaro or Firebird with less weight. MOPAR had light Demons, Dusters, Cudas, Challengers with powerful engines. The 64 GTO was a beast, light wt. in Tempest(Chevy II) body.
I to am from Pittsburgh, my dad had a green 70 judge, I was actually almost born in back seat in May of 1979, in Pittsburgh, my dad actually had the 120 mph speedometer and it actually broke when he first bought the car and was going well over 120 lol..and the windows leaked like hell at car wash, the back window cranks always came off, the door buzzer is absolutely heinous sounding, the shoulder belts on headliner always came off also, but the gto judge is my dream car..I cried all day when my dad sold his in 1986 for only 4500$
The car was supposed be mine when I got older, I was devastated, now I hope one day to get enough money to buy my own!
Awesome your from close by =) I’m sorry that happened to you I hope you can get one someday, don’t give up they are out there and could be had, cheaper than you think
Excellent video. While I have a preference for the '68 and '69 Judge (especially the convertible), the 1970 model is one of the best of the era. Well done.
Thank you glad you digged this episode =) this is going down as one of my favorite cars I’ve ever driven
never was a 68 judge
Dude, that car and
THAT👈🏼 motor are legend. RamAir IV...ooof.
Nice feature. U r a lucky son-of-gun to drive it. Tune: Witchy Woman.
Yeah I can’t believe that Zach didn’t wanna drive it he’s going to be on the channel more often one of the biggest most hyped up muscle cars a lot of people think it’s the fastest muscle car of the muscle car era and he did not want to drive it.. Little bit of insider information the bandit is going to be featured on here probably next week and there’s going to be a comparison episode between the two of them the judge drove how Smokey and the bandit portrayed the bandit car but the bandit car does not live up to anywhere close to the judge.. The bandit car is a very very cushy ride it’s not a bad car it’s just not fast like the movie portrays it to be
Witchy woman was an excellent guest but that’s not the name of this song
It is not a RAIV motor in that car
Awesome car the original muscle car!!!!
It was a blast to drive I didn’t drive it like an idiot and still got the job done A lot of people say this was the best possibly the fastest muscle car of the muscle car era definitely lived up to that
I was always led to believe that before 1970 only the full-size GM cars could have engines larger than 400 c.i.
The first GTO's came from the factory with the 389 V8, which had been around for a few years. However, the first GTO's which were sent out for testing had 421 V8's. Because external dimensions were identical, the 389 and 421 were identical by sight.
Chevrolet pulled off the tickiest slight of hand when it introduce the new 396 "big-block" in late 1965, the engines were actually 402 c.i. So, in 1966, Chevy introduced the SS396 to it's "A" body cars and in 1967 on their new Camaro. Because it was actually a 402, it was the largest engine in a GM "A" and "F" bodies before 1970. It was also available in the Nova 3rd generation "X" body.
For 1967, GM started loosening up and the GTO was allowed to have a 400 c.i. engine.
It's too bad that the trunk liner is missing.
Power brakes were optional but most GM cars that had front disc brakes had power brakes. With a manual transmission, engine braking helped stopping the car.
Thank you so much for sharing all of that information =)
Jan and Dean did a 1960s tune called “Little GTO.” You could have had that as your “name the tune “ segment. Just a thought. 😊
Fear not that’s coming it’s Ronnie and the Daytonas though
@@What.its.like. Jan and Dean had a song called My Mighty GTO. And you are correct that Ronny and the Daytonas had the most popular version of Little GTO. 🫢
Get ti up get ti up little gto
@@glennso47 It was a paid for advertisement by Pontiac.
Hey Jay, thanks for sharing another great video!!! When I was a kid one of our neighbors bought a new GTO Judge in 1969 it was dark green (a very popular color back then). It had the 400cid. engine with a 3 speed manual!!! He took a couple of us neighborhood kids for a ride & it was certainly fast!!! 👍👍🙂
Awesome story thank you so much for sharing that memory =)
I had a school friend who had a 71 Goat. It was a really nice car - 400, 4 speed, 12 bolt rear with posi carrier. Metallic brown with saddle interior and roof. You mentioned the 3 speed trans which I believe was standard. The 4 speed was an option that most folks went for. I believe it was standard on the Judge. The GM 455 cubed motors were all different. I had a 73 Riviera with the 455. Buick is the only GM car with the oil pump outside the motor. BTW.... that Riv did the 1/4 in 14.9 seconds with some tuning and carb tricks.😉
This judge is unbelievably awesome.. lived up to the hype and passed it.. was great to drive, power steering was great, sometimes Power steering back in the day seemed big and over assisted but it was absolutely spot on in this car.. I was talking to a GTO owner and he was telling me that the gas pedal in those is cable driven as opposed to linkage driven the gas pedal in this car is so white a lot of times with older muscle cars especially with the linkage ones if you get a really heavy return spring sometimes it’s really hard to push down I hate that this car did not have that this car felt like you were pushing out a piece of pedal and the gas pedal came back up immediately.. I need to work on getting to be more vocal when I have these thoughts while in the car =)
I own a 1971 GTO convertible with same color scheme. Canyon Copper color
My uncle had I think a 1971 metallic green GTO Judge with Hood-mounted tachometer, it looked so cool… everybody in the family wanted to go for a ride and the car was so mad …
one day his driver took her for a spin but sadly lost control on Lebanon mountain roads and lost his life in the accident RIP
Oh wow, I’m so sorry
You listed "Direbird" in you Pontiac model listing but not the actual "Trans Am". Yes it was a Firebird but it stood as it's own Model IMHO. LOL. Thank you for the fun video!
Thank you so much for the correction
Oh man these cars are super cool! 😎 I don't remember seeing one on the road when I was a kid, even though I was like five when it was produced, but I do remember seeing a lot of other cool cars from different eras,; including as similar orange colored '69 or '70 Mach 1, that one of my older brothers friends owned. I remember that I did have the Hot Wheels version of The Judge, the orange Mach 1, and some other cool ones as well. The orbital orange color on this is really awesome!🤩 When I see this car now I always associated with "Dazed and Confused" which is one of my old favorites, with that super cool opening of The Judge in slow mo' and of course Sweet Emotion blaring!😍
Some say this was the best muscle car EVER.. ( not counting the Shelby cobra or de matso pantera, which I wouldnt call muscle cars).. I didn’t floor it off the line but I believe the 5 seconds 0-60 has a great sound that didn’t come all the way through (sound didn’t pick up which was ashame) we got the bandit car as well that episode is coming next week
@@What.its.like. Awesome, looking forward to it!😎😃
The Ram Air VI, the most under appreciated killer engine from Pontiac
3.73 was a standard performance diff. Better acceleration but still able to cruise the freeway. A 4.10 was a pure drag race diff. Not common on the street. Z 28s had 3.73. 3.50s were common in towing packages. Most cars had 2.73s for mpg and easy freeway cruising. They get around it now with 6,8,9 speed transmissions. On the old GMs you could get a close ratio or wide ratio trans. Not real sure what the difference is. Bigger rpm drop between shifts. 4 speeds had much higher insurance costs than automatics.
Thank you so much for sharing that insight and added information =)
Nice era perfect styling, and the colour is fantastic. Can you get that colour in a car today? Would it look anywhere near as good?
I view a modern parking lot as having around 6 + body styles and subdued colours, some are so muted and bland they are anonymous. I have to agree about the Shelby's, they were high-end race speced-haulers, fast and better in a corner.
Modern cars are so much safer, so beautiful slim and elegant steering wheels (such as this) are out, as are most of the body contours and all the treats that make it a delight. We haven't even mentioned CD yet, for economy.
GTO stands for Gran Turismo Omaglogo, a orbit orange GTO judge was featured in the film Two Lane Blacktop, 1971. That judge is probably worth 500.000 bucks minimum. Devil woman by cliff Richards
That’s what the Ferrari GTO stands for but the Pontiac GTO stands for Grand Tempest option or groovy tempest option
dyler.com/blog/511/pontiac-gto
Gran Tourismo “OMG” 😱🫣?
Not to mention the Jan and Dean song “Little GTO” 😁
@@glennso47 Ronnie and the Daytona's did Little GTO
You mean Ronnie and the Daytona’s.. I had to look it up one day because I thought Brian Wilson wrote that song and gave it to them as a hit turns out I was wrong about that, But if memory serves me correct Brian Wrote little old lady from Pasadena gave it to Jan and Dean and that turned into a hit I believe he wrote surf city too
Yeh love the front nose and rear sharp sharp sharp one of my favorite muscle cars bad ass
I really liked this one =)
It’s missing the pre heater manifold shroud and connecting tube to the air cleaner.
The Fun Fact Was the Orbit Orange Judge Was Featured Twice on Adam 12 , Two Back Top , The Feature car Opening on Beretta ,And Dazed And Confused All the Same Car .
Hear Ye
Hear Ye
Here come the Judge
Here come the Judge
I love the ad where it says the judge can be bought =)
Yep
Some of us remember “GTO” meaning “Gas, Tires & Oil”
That’s awesome thank you for sharing that Different acronym =)
@@What.its.like. , It was a joke but a reality to everyone that owned one
Bill Collins did 1977 X. GM B and C body 1977!
I WILL LOVE TO HAVE A 1969 OR 70
GTO JUDGE
Judge is a pretty car and fast and easy to drive and really fun to drive at that.. loads to love about that car
When I was in the military I had a buddy who said he had a GTO and he said he could just watch the gas gauge go from “full” to “empty”. 🤭 I understand that they were gas hogs but he might have been stretching it just a bit. 🤔🤷♂️
I believe it but it was definitely worth it. Smiling ear to ear while while driving =D
I have a 454 truck with 40 gal tank. Believe it.
Premium fuel. So if you are concerned about fuel cost, buy an electric car.
John DeLoreans last masterpiece 👌
I really don't understand why the 455 had less power than the 400 but I think it had to do with Pontiac engineers looking into the near future with government restrictions and new emissions coming for 1971. Pontiac knew their 400 wasn't going to handle the emission equipment for the 71 model years and probably saw the 455 as a better chance to still have decent performance but also meet the new government standards. Hence why they switched to the 455 as the new true performance option as the 400 kept getting defanged. 70 was the last year for high compression engines so more cubic inches were needed for 71.
Yeah I’ve often wondered that as well it just doesn’t make sense why a smaller engine would make more power than a bigger engine. Or why they would replace a smaller engine with a bigger engine that makes less power.
@charlieb308 Their is an old saying that is even relevant today. Horsepower Sells Cars But Torque Wins Races.
Where is this GTO Judge for sale at?
It was at Jk Galleria in Salem Ohio they sold it just looked it up
@What it’s like OK thanks!
I've been looking for one
There is one for sale at classic auto Mall here’s the link
www.classicautomall.com/vehicles/4518/1970-pontiac-gto-hardtop
I missed hearing you mention the story about how The Judge was named. The Judge was inspired by a running gag on the 1969 Rowan and Martin's "Laugh In" program. Sammy Davis, Jr. played a court judge character compete with robe and wig. His by-line was, "Here comes the Judge". The skits were enormously popular. ua-cam.com/video/iMJOdLZaKE0/v-deo.html
Thank you so much for all of the added information I didn’t hit it in detail because the name goes back to 68 or 69 I couldn’t get a definitive answer on when it came out thank you so much for adding this information =)
FYI it was not the Grand Tempest Option, it was Grand Turismo Omologato and it’s an important part of history
It meant different things to different cars here’s a link those abbreviations could be different things
facebook.com/groups/707697117215381/permalink/890340992284325/?mibextid=S66gvF
It was Gran Turismo Omologato in factory literature.
I think that the producer of this video was just taking a bit of poetic license the Tempest pun.
It stood for grand tourismo omligoto
www.conceptcarz.com/profile/29578,752/1965-pontiac-tempest-lemans.aspx
Can yall spell it right or not at all please lol
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Side guard door beams mandated by feds for all cars. In 1970
I blew my 400 engine at 150 +1 or 2 I had a 1970 Judge that I bought for my wife.
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Add a modern 6 or 10 speed transmission and its a high 12 sec. car.
I always wondered why people don’t do two speed rear ends best of both worlds 4:11 and 3:73
Do you review the video before you put it out? A '63 GTO? Good luck finding a 63 GTO
For the 64 model year it’s always been like that..
@@What.its.like. I'm trying to remember but I think the GTO was a late 64 model.
It was an optional package on the Le Mans
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pontiac_GTO
@@What.its.like. John DeLorean wanted to produce a powerful car. looking at a prototype of the 1964 LeMans Coupe, Delorean suggested they add a 389-cubic-engine to it. This would replace the standard engine and As a result, it became the first GTO.
But, DeLorean had to get around a GM internal policy that vehicles must have 10 pounds of vehicle weight per cubic inch of engine displacement. Their GTO violated GM's mandate. Delorean found the edict had a loophole. The displacement limit referred to base engines only. As long as they offered the GTO as a package for the LeMans, they wouldn't be going against the company's policy.
The Pontiac GTO was unveiled to the public in 1963 as an option to the 1964 LeMans. In 1964, buyers could purchase it.
It was an option ONLY because GM would not allow it as a "stand alone" car unless it weighed more which is the only reason.
the ram air IV was the best engine in the 70 GTO.
After further investigation this is a really good GTO tribute turns out does not have the numbers matching engine that would be associated with ram air for it’s actually a 290 hp 400 but it still moves pretty good for 290hp
Nice try man but your ET's are inaccurate across the board. Refer to original, period road tests. The base, 455 HO and RAIII cars were no where near as quick as you have noted. Most were low 7 second 0-60, and upper 14's - low 15's in the quarter. The 455 HO auto, for example, was a mid 7 second 0-60, and mid 15's in the quarter. The only one that is close to what you show is the RAIV. RAIV cars had 3:90 standard & up numerically (optional) gears. RAIV GTO's were high 5 second 0-60, low 14 second cars stock (high 13's with slicks and a good driver) 3:55's were standard gearing w/o air and w/ a manual on base GTO's including The Judge. That is not a RAIV in the car. Color is Orbit Orange, that's the optional Rally steering wheel, and it is not a shaker hood. That motor sounds like a sled; I'm guessing not a 70 400.
This is where I got the specs from
www.automobile-catalog.com/make/pontiac/gto_2gen/gto_2_hardtop_the_judge/1970.html#gsc.tab=0
Your videos have an almost AMSR feel with the sound off---the way you scan over the materials with your fingers.
I’ll have to look that up and see what that is I’m not sure if that’s a compliment or a dis..
@@What.its.like. Compliment!!! It might be "ASMR".😊
Humbler was a package from 1970 GTO
lol no it wasn't. It was an ad campaign nickname only.
True that. Just a Pontiac promo.@@user-vn6vx6rf7d
The question you asked, why pay for a 455, when a 400 made more power?
Depends on what you wanted to do with the car. A RAIII is a good eng., and a RAIV a great one. 'Specially for racing. For driveability, the 455 with all it's torque could move that heavy tank around much easier than the 400s. And in order to appreciate that, you would need-ta drive both cars for an extended period of time to appreciate it. And I hope the owners pulls those "RAIV" stickers off the hood. It's embarrassing.
Those are all awesome points it just didn’t make sense on paper
@@What.its.like. Dyno runs are on paper too, but engs making less power on paper sometimes will beat those on the track. There are variables that sometimes paper can't account for.
The 455 made huge torque- but don't even think revving it past 5000 rpm. They were fragile as hell. Had one in my 70 GTO. The power was there, but the 400- even the base 400 engines were much much better; and held together better. The 71-72 455 HO was better; better heads, aluminum intake, just a better motor. The 455 SD is by far the best, and strongest. The 70 GTO was heavy and the 455 gave the illusion of power. You could punch it a 30 and bake the tires.
@@user-vn6vx6rf7d Most Pontiac V8s were restricted to 5500, because of the cast rods, 400, or 455. Still the long stroke 455 in a heavy car was the better choice for a street car. The HOs were better, but still were restricted to 5500 because of the crap rods. All SDs had forged rods, but good luck finding a set. I'll still take a std 455 in a 70 goat, over "any" 400, for street application. Just gutta know its limitations.
Their is an old saying that is even relevant today. Horsepower Sells Cars But Torque Wins Races.
GTO stands for Gran Turismo Omulgato. Facts. Half the people who post videos here don't know WTF they're talking about.
That was for the Ferrari gto.. Delorean wanted the letter to mean something different found in this article. Abbreviations can mean different things.
facebook.com/groups/707697117215381/permalink/890340992284325/?mibextid=S66gvF
Next Gto episode I’ll put source in video
Oh lovely yet another incorrect spelling.
It’s ram air not shaker hood
There are so many things wrong or incorrect in this video. I applaud the effort but many corrections are needed to be accurate here.
Here is where I got majority of the information and sources are contradicting
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pontiac_GTO
www.automobile-catalog.com/make/pontiac/gto_2gen/gto_2_hardtop_the_judge/1970.html#gsc.tab=0
www.conceptcarz.com/s8904/pontiac-gto.aspx
@@What.its.like. Wikipedia isn't always correct, so I'll help clear things up (in order of appearance): There was no 63 GTO, first year was 64 - The 389 was available in all full-size Pontiacs - Grand Tempest Option is not what GTO stands for, it was Gran Turismo Omologato - Where you're showing the engines, the RA III you show is in a Firebird, not a GTO. They had totally different air cleaner setups as well as the engine code - Base rear axle ratio was 3:55, and 4.33 was the most extreme - engine shown while discussing RA IV appears to be a RA III or 455 with HO/RA exhaust manifolds - engine shown while discussing 455 HO is from a Trans Am - the 455 HO was rated at 360hp - - - The car you were featuring was nice enough, but had some issues I could see but won't elaborate.Thanks!
Dome light doesn't look to be factory
Thank you so much for pointing that out
Doesn’t look like a real Judge, the exhaust manifolds are the regular ones used on the non Ram Air, the outside mirrors are incorrect, the correct set up is a single driver side only square chrome mirror.
It wasn’t real we did some digging and found it was a real Gto but a tribute judge 290 hp v8 it hooked up good all things considered
First year was 64.....Pontiac 101
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pontiac_GTO
1963 for the 64 model year
@@What.its.like. production began in 1963, it was a 1964 model= an option on the Tempest Lemans.
1964 Was the first year of the GTO not 1963.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pontiac_GTO
1963 for the 64 model year
@@What.its.like. So I guess the car in the video above is a 69.
No mickey mouse, it's a '70.@@joequillun7790
you need to do better research the first model year for the GTO was 1964 (probably introduced in late 63) the Pontiac 400 is 4.12 bore(not the small chevy 400 4.125 bore) x 3.75 stroke =399.938 CID= 6.5 Ltr don't believe me check the 67 and 68 front fender badge the Ram Air IV had a much better cam and better flowing heads than a 455 HO especially the early D port HOs Pontiac outright lied about the RA IV 400s HP dyno tests of factory RA IVs show better than 500 HP the RA IV was a bad ass engine and very rare
GTO = Gran Turismo Omologato, not Grand Tempest option
It could mean different things
So many people get bent out of shape about that..
Other abbreviations that mean different things
www.englishclub.com/glossaries/abbreviations-multi.php
Must be a repro. No hood tach. Pez
It was a tribute car..
YOUR INFORMATION IS ENTIRELY WRONG, AND YOU NEED TO STUDY YOUR AUTOMOTIVE HISTORY.
Thank you- this video was so disappointing.
who is going to tolerate 8 mpg for a 14 second street car? you could go faster in a civic and get 40 mpg
Civic doesn't give you the same feeling as this smell sound and totally different experience without the rice
Hey Jay , wonderful car !
Lol , your just a little nervous while driving . It looks like it took you out for a spin !
Well considering the cost and the fact that you don't drive those type of cars everyday it is to be expected. You got a nice job . Get more subscribers so you can then put your gto on layaway .
I was a little nervous but not as nervous as driving the viper and cobra
I work at that classic car dealership and get to take the cars out to see if they need anything like pull to the left and right just cautious.. if one wrecks a new car it’s replaceable I drove a $100,000 409 a few months back wreck that and it’s not replaceable
Who’s this cherry driving lol
Haha me, I worked for the Classic Car dealership over the summertime so I was able to drive whatever I wanted to drive there. It was a cool job =)
@@What.its.like. try not holding the gears too long in-between shifts on a 455 it's not a 4cyl and they have some yrs on them. Lol
My boss told me to drive it so I did..
Devil Women
You got the song =)
Not a big fan of GTO. Souped up Le Mans
I love this car the only thing that I didn’t like about it the clutch was great and the pickup was gear I didn’t like the shift action it was notch and couldn’t tell if it was in gear part of the time it was weird like you to force it in gear I don’t know it was that was the only downer about that car everything else was great.. and it could have been that car not being driven and lose up over time