Brand New MOTOR MOUNTS For My Cheap Fiat 500 Abarth *Is It Fixed?*
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- Опубліковано 10 вер 2024
- I was almost back to Kansas when I came up on boost in my 2012 Fiat 500 Abarth and it started shuddering. I replaced the spark plugs in the 1.4L 4 cylinder Multiair engine from Dodge and that didn't fix the problem. The motor mounts were trash so I ordered a set of those and some people mentioned that would fix the problem. Today we're replacing them and taking it out for a test drive.
This Fiat 500 Abarth had an original sticker price of $22,700 just 7 short years ago and now it's an absolute enthusiast bargain. Here's the original window sticker if you want to see the equipment and options: bit.ly/500Abart...
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On today's episode JR has a caffeine induced stroke
Hahahahahaha
Cant wait to see a fix for the shudder. I have a Dodge Dart 1.4L that has the same miss/shudder when pulling through 2nd and 3rd. I've done plugs, coils, new air filter, and even changed the turbo because the fins were dented. Still misses :(.
Derrick Nykoluk: Yikes!
This is a prefect demonstration of why these cars are only for do-it-yourselfers and not for the general public. Replacing a dozen parts to stop a shudder is not something most want to do.These cars are really tough to fix. I suspect we will get to watch a lot of repairs over time with JR - much more than any other car he owns. Fiats are notorious for that.
What year and what models are you talking about. We see more toyotas and hondas in our shop for majors. Blown head gasket, blown radiators, sludge, oil/fuel dilution, transmissions, clutches. CV joints, ball joints, etc.
@@berniediapersanderslukso9204 I go by the survey's of Consumer Reports, which includes thousands of cars every year. On average, the ones with the most issues are Fiat and Chrysler. While it does happen to Toyota and Honda in a few cases, if the cars are maintained, it does not happen on a wide basis.
@@Buc_Stops_Here , sorry but CR is bogus.
@@berniediapersanderslukso9204 Really? Hundreds of thousands disagree. It has worked for me and I used to work in the car industry as a consultant to quality. Their results generally agree with companies who have adopted lean six sigma on their design and using repair data under warranty.
@@berniediapersanderslukso9204 Also, Fiat is pulling the 500 out of the USA at the end of 2019 due to quality problems and the lack of sales of small cars.
Your channel helps calm me down when I'm having panic attacks. Love all the work. Keep it up
skyler specht: 😉🍻
Love this channel! Getting your friends together to wrench on a car is some of the best times of your life. Great to see the channel growing too.
Well at least this was a video that was easier to find than doing the oil cooler replacement thanks yall
Gabe's voice-over after you took a drink was hilarious.
I swear I thought he was going to say "and at that moment Jr realized he f***** up."
Jason Valerio: it might have almost happened...😂🤣😂🤣
@@Gabe-ABNCW3 Dave Chappelle man. Damn Legend.
Yep. Usually the passenger side breaks then the other 2 a fail short while later. It's worse on the Abarth mostly because people tend to slam them harder, plus the non turbo has 98 lbs of torque vs 170.
JR you tightened that mount to 3 grunts when it clearly called for 2 grunts. Over grunting motor mounts will lead to premature failure. Most likely what happened to the old mounts.
SIXPACFISH: that’s what I told him too!😉🍻
@@Gabe-ABNCW3 Great minds and all that.
Yeah, I will watch this after replacing the seals in my Accord. I had misfires and oil in three cylinders!
Spark plug seals. I'm doing the same thing tomorrow.
@@JT-un7dc I do not know you, so excuse me if you know more than me, and my 1999 Honda may be completely different than your vehicle, but I replaced these and various other parts when I changed my timing belt a bit over a year ago, and they failed.
My kit came with bolt gaskets and washers. I spent far too long removing those the first time. Pry them apart with a flathead, cut off the old gasket, slide off the old washer, and I have seen two ways to install the new washers and gaskets. Some tap them into place with a 12mm socket, but I think that twists the rubber too much. Mine seemed to hold, but the other way is to use a small flathead screwdriver to stretch the gasket around the flange.
I do not know the terms. Hopefully this makes sense.
I used a flathead to separate the washer and gasket, slid on the washer, and then used the flathead to stretch the gasket over the end.
I could not see any clear instructions on which way the plug seals go, but as far as I can tell, you are supposed to have metal-on-rubber on all sides. If you install it the other way, there is a ring of air between the valve cover and the seal, and I do not believe that is correct.
1AAuto says to use a pocket screwdriver to flange the seal around the tube. You need to make sure the seal is around the tube. When you install the bolts and tighten, go carefully and evenly. I think mine got pinched last time, which might be why they failed.
Hopefully this fixes my problem. From what I can tell, if this does not work, I need to remove the rocker arm assembly and replace the seals underneath.
7.2 ft-lbs for the valve cover bolts and 13 ft-lbs for the spark plugs. Who torques spark plugs?! After all of this, I am not taking chances! :)
@@drippingwaxwich engine do you have? on my vehicle wich is a 97 accord with the B22 16 valve. There are two sets of spark plug seals. One is directly under the valve cover and the other set is under the valve assembly. If you only changed one set of tube seals then that could be why it failed. Also prying on the new gaskets with a flat head could have knicked the rubber hence causing it to fail. Check out eric the car guy on you tube. He has a video for spark plug tube seals that is very informative.
The first set of seals is fairly simple remove valve cover and change. NOW, the second set underneath the valve body is a lot more tricky. you will need to remove the whole valve body assembly in a specific pattern to replace these seals wich are underneath the valve assembly. Then use a torque wrench in a specific bolt pattern to reassemble the valve assembly. Then you should adjust the valves before putting the valve cover back on. Hopefully this helps you out. I also watched a video by peanutbutterman on spark plug tube seals here on you tube that's was very informative. Hopefully this will help you. Feel free to ask me anything else. Good luck
@@drippingwax also, I've never torqued spark plugs lol
@@JT-un7dc It is the F23A1 and I think that Eric's video was for the fourth-generation Accord.
Briansmobile1 has a similar video for a wagon of the same generation, but from what I can tell, it is the same for the sixth-generation. Eric said you can replace the top gaskets and if it works, consider yourself lucky. As I mentioned, I replaced the top seals, but they got pinched. All four were definitely bad. Maybe I should replace the bottom ones, but I am not removing the rocker assembly if I do not need to. I drove from one location to another for work and my car was still misfiring, but it cleared up when I drove back. The CEL has not returned so far. Do problems ever go away on their own?
I did not replace the spark plugs or clean them meticulously. There was probably still some oil in the wells. It is possible the engine misfired until it burned off the oil (and poisoned the catalytic converter).
Lol "The most important part!"
"Can I have it?"
I went to Bondurant Racing School in Phoenix August 16th, and they still had a couple of Abarths there. Surprised at the exhaust, louder than I expected. The instructors had a bit of fun with it.
yeah to be fair these cars are not just about doing 'pulls' on the highway, they go around corners too
Sup game, great shirt as always! Old school! New flavor of liquid ice! Nice!
That thing has a K&N air filter? THAT'S why it is fast!
You could've just slathered those bolts in liquid ice, they'd then remove themselves!
thecman26: Gonna try that next time!😉🍻
Silliest tightest thing I ever saw was a hydraulic ram for a dump truck. Needed a repack. Guy named joey was hanging off feet of cheater bar, literally hanging, and bouncing for “impact”, while one other guy held a rosebud on the nut and a third beat it with a hammer. Went on for hours. Didn’t get to see it put back together due to a lovely heart attack a couple of days later. But it was an epic fight.
roscocsa: Great story! Sorry to hear about your heart attack. Glad you are OK!😉🍻
@@Gabe-ABNCW3 It was 20 years ago, all good as far as I can HURK!!!!! *thud
:D
Cheers and thanks for all the awesome vids.
roscocsa:😂🤣🍻
I keep a couple of 1-1/4” x 1/8 wall pieces of steel tubing in my tool box. One is 24” long, the other is 48” long. They slide right over all of my breaker bars and socket wrenches including my 3/4” drives. I have all the leverage I need. With my 3/4” breaker and the 4-footer, I can change the wheels on a Peterbilt.
Shudder is typically transmission related so you may want to look in that direction before spending more money on sparkplugs, motor mounts and such. ijs
that is what I was thinking especially since it happens when he shifts
Are you dumb? He already replaced plugs and mounts...it was smart for him to replace the oem plugs with over 100k on them. And mounts are cheap enough to just do them if they are bad. Most people overlook mounts.
That looks pretty easy to work on... shocking! Nice video with Gabe & Zac both.👍
Matt's Garage:😉🍻
Gabe's shirt is awesome. That is all.
mb houtex: 😉🍻
Are the cv shafts balance by a little late maybe it fell off maybe that's why I've ever shutter idk just saying
Might I recommend a set of magnetic sockets? They make them in deep well also. They're great for installing/removing hardware in hard to reach areas. I got a set on amazon for like 60 bucks.
Chris I: I’ll look into that
@@Gabe-ABNCW3 I checked out my order. They were made by Sunnex. They look very close to the Snapon version I already have and cost quite a bit less
Chris I: NEAT! Thank you!
PB Blaster, so much better than CRC!
“Here’s the most important part!”
*Rockauto magnet*
You know what’s up! My garage freezer is covered in them!
A fun watch. For those of us that can’t do these kind of repairs what do you think a shop would have charged for that. Keep on with the journey.
Oh the calibrated elbow. Now for some CCB's!
Keep up the great work thanks for the awesome content
Anchor mounts are trash! I wouldn't use them! I installed a set and the NVH level in my vehicle went way up! Lots of vibrations in the dash and floor pan areas. I took them out and installed a set of OEM mounts and it was quiet and vibration free once again.
elcaminosunlimited they are meant to be stiff for traction and eliminating wheel hop... user error not product lol
Ray McCarthy not the oem replacement version...
sounds like you didnt install them correctly
ItsYaBoiGar no, that was not the issue... they were just cheap parts with an inferior rubber compound.
Good call on the coils. They're pointless on a sub 300 whp fiat... hell they're probably pointless on a 400 whp fiat :p
... and get that dog bone done. I wore three out on a TD05H 500. It banged just like that.
Just warning to all people never by anchor motor mounts I got some for Dodge Stratus years ago when I had a Dodge Stratus and within a couple months after installing them I had to replace them cuz they're already cracking and coming apart and I upgraded to carquest ones and I did not have the problem ever again. The rubber compound anchor motor mounts use sucks.
Buddy, anchor makes ALL aftermarket mounts. They are OEM quality. The problem is you had a stratus. Those are pure junk and never good. I've worked in parts for 11 years and on cars for 12
@@thagerdorn2009 I worked at Advance for 10 years (ASE certified) and sold (even purchased) plenty of these mounts. I'm not boasting but giving context for my next statement. Anchor motor mounts are garbage. They are certainly not made to the same specifications as OEM. I always advise customers to go OEM for motor mounts if they could afford it.
@@chrisvankauwenberg4009 dude I have used and sold a ton of them. Never once ever have I had a problem nor has a customer. If they are junk then I bet you something else was causing the problem. They are very nice quality.
@@thagerdorn2009 Dude.... Here's merely one of many examples of Anchor's low quality. I purchased four of the same part number and all were made to a different spec and size (up to .25" variance). Three of the incorrectly spec'd mounts caused extreme vibration that wasn't present prior to installing the new mounts. Finally, the forth mount eliminated the vibration entirely. How's that for quality control. There is a reason why they are a fraction of the cost of OEM mounts.
@@chrisvankauwenberg4009 that can happen with ANY auto part, OEM or not.
Voice over epic
Next up: compression test!
you just need a poly torque strut insert...
1:25-1:33 "Party in his mouth...Neurons that hadn't be fired..in..YEARS!" Yes, friends - you need someone like Gabe, who will take advantage of your drinking an energy beverage to take jabs at you. I was dead at that moment in time :)
Patiently waiting!!!! Yeah I don't think it would be nice to drop and engine on Gabe . Zack I hear a lot of girls like those strong fingers for opening stuff.
T.A. Brown: Thank you for your patience T.A.!! We are truly sorry it is taking so long!
I like how the smallest guy there got the impossible bolt broke loose
Hey what model is that Dewalt impact? Is it any good?
hol la: JR will have to give the model, but yes, it’s legit!
What bolt do you want me to break?! 😂😂
All off it
Well... Other than juvenile antics - acceptable vid.
When is your tractor going to be put back together and running?
Does the Fiat have the same problem as a PT? My sisters PTs timing belt broke and when it did it tore up EVERYTHING under the hood. I guess the mechanic said PT had the worst set up under the hood.
I always wanted to say this. Why do some of you look 25 & 48 years old at the same time. I love you guy's. Don't get mad. I can't wait till the Audi's done so you can get back to junkers, they are lot more fun. especially this is cool that you got this Lemon Fiat and you're going to make it good.
And you guys drink & eat like 20 year olds. I turned 30 and I can't touch energy drinks for shit unless I'm working a late night construction shift.
Jason Valerio: LOL! It’s all good Jason.
Ummm... I don’t really know.... Daily moisturizing perhaps or something along those lines...😉
We’ll take it as a compliment! Thanks for your comment, friend!!
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@@Gabe-ABNCW3 Cool beans.
Y'all are secretly R. Lee Ermey Grandkids
Jason Valerio: LOL!
Some guy in town has a modded one and I'd like to race it in my modded r53
jeez, where were those replacement parts actually made?
They got ot from rock auto lol
I have the same problem with mounts on my 500 sport, Ebay side mount didnt fit just got the oem from dealer, hope to fix it
Some aftermarket parts made in China or Mexico.
Did you have to drain the Anitfreeze on that 1st motor mount?
@ 7:14 lose the 12" extension and try again with the air impact. Extensions reduce impact torque a huge amount and there is no reason nto be using it there.
Not knowing how to dab is probably a badge of honor, honestly.
Jamie Schneider: Fact.
Almost 100k🙌
Yalls cyclone for your shop vac is hooked up backwards the shop vac hose should go to the top and the one you use goes on the side and man do these fiat things sucks to work on
(around 2:20): Are you guys on drugs?! O_O
Alexandre Souza: No.
Is this the same as a 500X
Remove the extensions and it'll pop off you're losing a lot of the strength in the twist of the extension
Fix it again JR
Does this car have dual mass flywheel ?
I was planning on picking up an abarth.
Be careful, you can put your back out doing that
Did you ever contemplate that CV axle is the cause ? Getting into the throttle would lift the front end causing the shimmy ? If you feel it through the steering wheel then that’s it , in my opinion .
You don't exactly feel it through the steering wheel, more of through the seat. So weird, now the shudder seems to have moved to lower gears. I'll check the CV for play next for sure 💯
@@WatchJRGo If it's the inner cv joint, you may not detect play but could still be faulty. Faulty inner shaft joints cause vibration under load. Tough to diagnose for sure.
Are you saying "Fiah"? I thought I was mishearing you in a previous video but I'll pretty sure you're saying Fiah 500 A-bart.
Nice!
How come you don't even mention Enrico Colantoni guest starring in your video?!
Rockauto sent me the wrong part. Then after I called.. there customer service was a Joke. Told me I had to pay a restocking fee. Never ordered from them again.
Jay M The fact that you “phoned” them tells me this was a very long time ago (they have no phone number now) I’ve ordered close to $10k in parts from them in the last 4yrs and have only ever had a couple minor mistakes. The one time I got a water pump for a Honda when I had ordered for a Ford V8, turns out the box had been mislabeled by Gates, they rushed me the correct pump free of charge and never even asked for the Honda pump back, my return was as easy as e-mailing them a few pics of the wrong part and wrong label on the box. Much better then any other auto parts supplier I’ve ever dealt with.
Rockauto is crooked as hell. They do send wrong parts. Only good thing from them is the fridge magnet.
Awesome little pocket rocket
It needs reflashed if the ecu is oem
Would this fix the shudders? I've replaced AOS, coils, plugs. Wondering if it could be fuel pump related possibly?
@@slothclaws just take it to a studio, have them reflash the ECU
Fiat - Fix It Again Tony
Are you talking about your 94 Toyota Celica?
you should pronounce /àbart/ (i’m italian)
Iacopo Benedetto: Grazie!
Cinquecento Abarth!
If you've got the Shudders: Try some Seafoam.
I wonder what the shudder is
Did Zack snag your drink?
Get rid of the Ken & Natalie they can screw with the Maf
The more I see this the more it reaffirms I want nothing to do with a Fiat. Changing the oil filter is a pain in the ass
It’s the biggest piece of shit I’ve ever owned. I still freakin love that car! ...YO!
The only mount I came here to see and you didn’t show it at all! Thumbs Down 👎🏼
What's worse? A fiat or mango fanta thinking it's orange fanta.
is gabe high? lol
Brian Schroeder: No. Never been something that interested me.
Gabe haha I figured. Youre a warrant right? Probably wouldn’t be kosher. Pretty funny stuff tho man 😆
Brian Schroeder:😉🍻
You say that you got the cheapest fiat 500 in the world I got my 2013 Fiat sports for $ 3000 with 50,000 miles on
So please Take your bullshit somewhere else
The ECU is next too battery? That's not smart.
Alot of cars are like that. Really not an issue
Were those mounts made of mozzarella cheese?
Are these cars worth it to buy used? I love them to death but am afraid that they will just shit the bed as soon as I buy one haha
Anyone else hate the sound of his Dewalt?
The original owner failed to do proper maintenance.
How many men does it take to fix a fiat
I'll have to tell you now.
You done fucked up, Anchor mounts are the absolute worst.
I wish ya luck there.
and I made that post as soon as showed the boxes, before I saw the look, fitment, and results.
Dont make that mistake again please
Great video lol
Mouth parties, only good when girl is present...lol
She was getting the rack ready since no one followed her instructions. What instructions? Who knows. She's a woman. You have beginning, middle & end plus changes on the fly. Lack of knowledge of any changes is no excuse. Up side.... they will all be taller. Down side.... it could kill 'em. Well, that's the breaks. ✔️
New subscriber here
Abbe Art?
3K for car
100 hours labor
5,000$
Still shudders..... 😂
There was one more mount they have to change.
i really can't stand the Abarth... ugly AF... just my opinion....
Nothing wrong with having an opinion.
I think the one in my garage looks great, and my wife loves it.
8th! Love your vids always entertained.
JR really been enjoying your vids! The Abarth has a crazy tie in to my hometown in Hiawassee GA , in North GA. J W Denton lived here and raced them. A little info here: mycarquest.com/2014/05/fiat-abarth-team-roosevelt.html
"Uh-Bart"
Did you junk the terrible exhaust yet ? 😀
Fiat "turd."
Second!
second!
Cringe or what!
abart
This car is a total piece of shit. I hate fiats. They are third world economy cars and are marketed in the US as imports from Italy (just diluting the value of true Italian cars like Maserati) I hope you sell it and get your money back. Oh yeah. Forgot to mention that I love your channel. I like, comment, and subscribe.
AP: Cheers AP 😉🍻
must be great wages in wichita.
I love the Abarth, I want an Abarth but I realize that any Abarth will *NEVER* be “fixed.”
..at least not for long.
1st?
First!
Anything owned by Chrysler is crap, including Fiat. only good thing that fiat has is the spider, because its a mazda mx5. I loathe Chrysler / Dodge.
I have a 2010 Ram 3500 with 263k and a 2012 fiat 500 with 120k. Both have been good vehicles. I maintain them well.
Sounds like you have been brainwashed by Scotty Kilmer.
You never owned a FIAT.