i am so sorry but i rode a normal Bike B4 i got Ebike and i agree with that term "earn the right to go downhill by peddling your guts outs out on a normal mtb" that's literally why i got my Ebike bcz somebody zoomed past me on an uphill and i felt like i earned it already by doing the normal climbs on a regular bike. I think it's about lifestyle too. some want the high level condition fitness and some just want to get from point A to B.
Incidentally some bad advice given in this 'bad advise video' - gear oil is proven in lab conditions to be the most effective chain lube, if you're attracting loads of dirt it's because you're applying too much, excessive application of a 'bike specific' lube will do the same. Every 'mountain bike specific' and especially 'e-bike' specific product is generally a rebranded, vastly over priced version of what is available for much less commercially
I can attest to the rack comment. I thought the rack on my car was good enough for the new Trek Rail only to see it fall off the rack on it's maiden ride. Next day, hammered off the old rack and bought a nice expensive rack for the EMTB. Works like a charm now. Morale of the story "The price of the rack in directly proportional to the cost of the bike" . Thanks Chris for this informative video.
Thanks for sharing, Steve! It's so important to make sure you've got a secure way of transporting your pride and joy! It's always worth checking the max load of a bike rack when upgrading to an e-bike. Glad you enjoyed this one! 🙌
Keep your bikes locked even IN your garage if possible. Thieves canvas neighborhoods looking for open garages w/juicy e-bike targets for snatch and grab. My parents lost theirs within 60 days of purchase that way... and of course their insurance company screwed them as e-bikes fall into the gray area between vehicle and property. Neither home owners nor vehicle coverage applied.
It's a steep learning curve!😬 It's so important to keep your bikes safe and secure! We've made loads of videos on bike security. Here's one from our friends made over on GMBN Tech! 👉 ua-cam.com/video/zQfaFZ5OpOs/v-deo.html
It is a bit funny, that the W013 error code used in his example, suggested fix from Shimano, is actually to turn of the bike and on again :) (This time without having pressure on the pedals)
i heard shimanos are very touchy when it comes to turning it on while having a tiny bit of preassure on the pedal or while not standing still. is this true? i can turn my yamaha on while going 20kph no problem
Re the error code, take a photo on your phone so your LBS can't deny there's a problem. Also, get the cadence up, the torque low, and your chain and cassette will thank you
I use a 5litre Garden sprayer that you can pressurise for cleaning my bike. Handy as I can take it in car with me to use after each cycle and seems to work well. Also a lot cheaper than the one i see you using
Well, apartment life - can't purchase/use a pressure washer (nowhere to hook one up). So on days my bike is really messy, I will use a wand at a car wash - otherwise my trick is to stick my bike into the bathtub and shower it. :-)
@@embn I'll admit that I am a bit on the OCD side, however the Squirt lube is self-cleaning, it dries out and falls away with the accumulated dirt. Just remove the bigger chunks of wax that may accumulate on cage and similar narrow points and you are good to go.
Hi guys. Love the content but never keen on seeing eMTB guys clearly riding along footpaths or rocks that are not actual trails. Let’s not spoil the outdoors for everyone eh, we all know that the increased range and power of eMTBs has seen loads of riders going where they shouldn’t so please do the right thing and encourage everyone to stick to the bridleways and trails. Footpaths in the Lakes,UK, Alps etc very not cool.
Better still run two chains and swap them over every two or three rides. Gives you the opportunity to clean the unused chain correctly and both chains mesh correctly with the cassette
Just going to say that I tried Muc-off dry lube and it is completely disappointing. Noisy, bad shifting, and even chain skip happened with it. Wet lube made it work like a dream.
I don't know why they always bash on three in one, is it because they want you to buy their expensive garbage, or they just don't know any better. If there was something better than three-in-one I would definitely use it. Case-in-point remember when bike shops used to push White lightning, with the argument that it doesn't attract dirt, three-in-one is always been the best you just wipe off the excess.
any oil will do. am guilty of this myself. the drivetrain for me is just a wear item. it lasts for 1000s of kilometers anyways and a chain is dirt cheap, casette is too (only applies if you dont ride expensive drivetrains like sram eagle or shimano deore xtr).
On the hike a bike, get to know your walk mode. Lifesaver. Also even if it says it's e-bike approved, don't believe it. I had one from Saris that almost dumped my bike off the back of my truck as the wheel carriers broke. Just cheap plastic. Go with something you can barely pick up. Just like the bike.. :)
Bad advice: save money on brakes. Actually, with e-mtb, the ease of climb means that you gain lots of potential energy quite easily. All this energy needs to be dissipated downhill. Even a rookie needs pro level brakes if doing serious hilly rides.
Hi Mark! This can be so true! With the weight of an e-bike to slow down, a good set of brakes can save you from getting into a lot of trouble if you need to make a quick stop. 👍
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Worse advice I ever had was you have have to earn the right to go downhill by peddling your guts outs out on a normal mtb and ebikers are cheaters
I go to work to earn, I ride my bike for fun. Cheating who?
Ignore them, these people are dickheads.
What a myth! Keep e-biking! 😉
i am so sorry but i rode a normal Bike B4 i got Ebike and i agree with that term "earn the right to go downhill by peddling your guts outs out on a normal mtb" that's literally why i got my Ebike bcz somebody zoomed past me on an uphill and i felt like i earned it already by doing the normal climbs on a regular bike. I think it's about lifestyle too. some want the high level condition fitness and some just want to get from point A to B.
@@ayeejiff9847 pedaling vs peddling
pedaling vs peddling
Most heard Karen E-bike advice: E-bikes are motor vehicles!! You can't ride that thing on **MY** trails11!!1!!
Best advice, always turbo 🤣
Haha! That's a shout! 😂
Incidentally some bad advice given in this 'bad advise video' - gear oil is proven in lab conditions to be the most effective chain lube, if you're attracting loads of dirt it's because you're applying too much, excessive application of a 'bike specific' lube will do the same. Every 'mountain bike specific' and especially 'e-bike' specific product is generally a rebranded, vastly over priced version of what is available for much less commercially
I'm a fan of T-9 Boeshield for my roadbike, just got into MTB so it remains to be seen if it collects too much dirt.
Yes Gear oil has an HP (High Pressure Additive) so it should work fine on chain.
Yep 😂 a lot of it is rebranded 3 in 1, the same oil they all talked s*** about. But it's good stuff no matter how much you pay for it.
Worst is I'm waiting till I'm 70 to get an ebike and you are too young to ride one yet.
I can attest to the rack comment. I thought the rack on my car was good enough for the new Trek Rail only to see it fall off the rack on it's maiden ride. Next day, hammered off the old rack and bought a nice expensive rack for the EMTB. Works like a charm now. Morale of the story "The price of the rack in directly proportional to the cost of the bike" . Thanks Chris for this informative video.
Thanks for sharing, Steve! It's so important to make sure you've got a secure way of transporting your pride and joy! It's always worth checking the max load of a bike rack when upgrading to an e-bike. Glad you enjoyed this one! 🙌
Bad advice :
“Use turbo on the downhill”
“Single ply tyres will work just fine..”
“Just leave it in Turbo”
Lol, 3in1 is good stuff! wipe off the excess and it doesn't attract too much dirt.
Keep your bikes locked even IN your garage if possible. Thieves canvas neighborhoods looking for open garages w/juicy e-bike targets for snatch and grab. My parents lost theirs within 60 days of purchase that way... and of course their insurance company screwed them as e-bikes fall into the gray area between vehicle and property. Neither home owners nor vehicle coverage applied.
It's a steep learning curve!😬 It's so important to keep your bikes safe and secure! We've made loads of videos on bike security. Here's one from our friends made over on GMBN Tech! 👉 ua-cam.com/video/zQfaFZ5OpOs/v-deo.html
The worst advise I ever got was! ,ahh just send it 😂🤣😂🤣😂
A classic! 😂
no problem doing on off on an error. if u know what that error means.
Great video, thanks for that guys. Very good advice as always.
Thanks, Chris! We're glad you're enjoying the content! 👍
It is a bit funny, that the W013 error code used in his example, suggested fix from Shimano, is actually to turn of the bike and on again :) (This time without having pressure on the pedals)
i heard shimanos are very touchy when it comes to turning it on while having a tiny bit of preassure on the pedal or while not standing still. is this true? i can turn my yamaha on while going 20kph no problem
I want to watch this with my kids but the title shows it’s not appropriate. 😢love ya content but the books cover is important for a family community
Hey Tim! All our video content is family-friendly. Rest assured, there is no swearing in this video. 👍
@@embn thanks guys, love the channel. Was sitting with my kids and saw the title and couldent risk it. Keep up the awesome content guys, big fan
@@embn The thumbnail shows *profanity* so that probably was it.
Re the error code, take a photo on your phone so your LBS can't deny there's a problem.
Also, get the cadence up, the torque low, and your chain and cassette will thank you
I use a 5litre Garden sprayer that you can pressurise for cleaning my bike. Handy as I can take it in car with me to use after each cycle and seems to work well. Also a lot cheaper than the one i see you using
We have a 10L for cleaning kayaks, only use about 2L/yak. The bikes get much dirtier, but I'll give it a go !
That's a great idea! They can be so useful!
I didn't use ebike specific water bottle and my bike went super nova
They're coming down in price but I still can't afford one 😭
Well, apartment life - can't purchase/use a pressure washer (nowhere to hook one up). So on days my bike is really messy, I will use a wand at a car wash - otherwise my trick is to stick my bike into the bathtub and shower it. :-)
For the lube oil, I am very happy with Squirt lube. On my commuter bike, I am at 7000 km of chain with no sign of stretch.
That's amazing! You must keep your bike in good condition! 👍
@@embn I'll admit that I am a bit on the OCD side, however the Squirt lube is self-cleaning, it dries out and falls away with the accumulated dirt. Just remove the bigger chunks of wax that may accumulate on cage and similar narrow points and you are good to go.
There is a vid on UA-cam of a test of all bike chain lubes. Squirt won.
Hi guys. Love the content but never keen on seeing eMTB guys clearly riding along footpaths or rocks that are not actual trails. Let’s not spoil the outdoors for everyone eh, we all know that the increased range and power of eMTBs has seen loads of riders going where they shouldn’t so please do the right thing and encourage everyone to stick to the bridleways and trails. Footpaths in the Lakes,UK, Alps etc very not cool.
Better still run two chains and swap them over every two or three rides. Gives you the opportunity to clean the unused chain correctly and both chains mesh correctly with the cassette
Don't your flash ebikes have a walk function?
You won’t need a pack….
First
🥇🙌
Is this the muck off channel?
Just going to say that I tried Muc-off dry lube and it is completely disappointing. Noisy, bad shifting, and even chain skip happened with it. Wet lube made it work like a dream.
I don't know why they always bash on three in one, is it because they want you to buy their expensive garbage, or they just don't know any better. If there was something better than three-in-one I would definitely use it. Case-in-point remember when bike shops used to push White lightning, with the argument that it doesn't attract dirt, three-in-one is always been the best you just wipe off the excess.
any oil will do. am guilty of this myself. the drivetrain for me is just a wear item. it lasts for 1000s of kilometers anyways and a chain is dirt cheap, casette is too (only applies if you dont ride expensive drivetrains like sram eagle or shimano deore xtr).
Looks at my shimano deore with sad noises.
On the hike a bike, get to know your walk mode. Lifesaver. Also even if it says it's e-bike approved, don't believe it. I had one from Saris that almost dumped my bike off the back of my truck as the wheel carriers broke. Just cheap plastic. Go with something you can barely pick up. Just like the bike.. :)
“Don’t worry, it won’t burst into flames (like in all those other UA-cam videos) and burn down the forest”. Worst advice ever.
I thought a lot of emtb have walk assist mode? My greenway ebike does (or can just use the throttle on it)
5:25 Agzellerate? The English can't speak English anymore
Maybe he had also "exaggerate" in mind? :)
😂
Let's be happy Steve finally learned how to pronounce Leeevo. LOL
nothing worse to attract muck on your chain is muc off. 😀
Bad advice: save money on brakes. Actually, with e-mtb, the ease of climb means that you gain lots of potential energy quite easily. All this energy needs to be dissipated downhill. Even a rookie needs pro level brakes if doing serious hilly rides.
am thinking about going 203mm too. what are good options on the cheap?
@@SimonBauer7 I am quite happy with a TRP floating disc. See if you can use finned pads too, I use alligator turbo.
Hi Mark! This can be so true! With the weight of an e-bike to slow down, a good set of brakes can save you from getting into a lot of trouble if you need to make a quick stop. 👍
Worst e-bike advice - Buy an e-bike
Great show!
Says nobody ever.