The gap mentioned at 3:15 is critical. In many cases, a windscreen can be improved by simply offsetting it away from your fairing some so air can travel behind it. The idea is to prevent flow separation which creates the turbulence you feel.
I've put 3 different windscreens on my Ninja 1000. I finally found one that was smaller, but the shape was the biggest factor. It still creates turbulence, but the vortices were directed in a better way. Sometimes you have to look at the forums, and not the reviews because some people are just angry that they spent several hundred dollars on something that's not satisfactory.
Madstad. You should highlight them. I rode through hurricanes twice on two different bikes with a madstad. Wouldn't have survived without it / them. Simply the Best windscreen you can get best design. They don't make them for all bikes but they are work of art.
I’m 6’5” and on a 2019 Africa twin. I was finding wind buffeting of my head, and some times body. I also ride off road mainly and was worried I would slap my throat into windscreen. I decided to cut the oem screen down considerably. Now get no buffeting, good clear view and helps keep temps down in this Queensland heat.
Same hight on a Triumph explorer and had the same problem. I tried a few screens before just giving up and running a short summer fly screen and ear plugs. Wish I didn't waste my time and money on trying different screens when I could have just cut the original screen down.
Same size on a 22 africa twin. I have been trying all sorts of stuff. I ride with the windscreen off which eliminated the buffetting but sooooo loud. Even with earplugs. I have a couple other things to try. If I can't get it figured out, I might sell the bike. My rf 1400 helmet is super quiet when I stand up, even if I am 3 inches off the seat. Hopefully I figure it out soon.
My 701 has a Nomad Adv screen, which transformed the bike from an overweight and over powered trail bike into a genuine all rounder, fairly comfortable on the highway, pretty good on trails, pretty good everywhere, doing pretty well anything. Oh yeah, and the Seat Concepts seat. I need that, too.
one add-on i hadn't thought of before i was rec'd it and tried them is front fork windguards they make to usually put on harleys or other cruisers, but i found they work just as well on adv bikes...attaching a set of fork windguards cuts way down on the wind that comes up from underneath the handlebars and windscreen, etc. so yeah, they don't work for everyone, but can make a world of a difference....
Another great vid 👍🏼 really appreciate your honesty with your own trials and errors. The motorbike body profile, fairing and fork tunnel design are also significant factors in airflow. Various Africa Twin models are a good example of how different, even subtle designs affect airflow. Riders of the Adventure Sport model and the older CRF1000 model often swear by fork tunnel air dams to reduce buffeting. The same air dams do relatively little on the CRF1100 due to subtle different contours in fairing and body profiles.
Yep, I've heard guys immediately blame the windscreen when it doesn't work well but it can be very complex trying to make it work properly on various bikes....
I guess I'm one who doesn't like a screen ever since a childhood wreck.. I do like a bit of fairing, & being election time the yard signs are great for mockups & eventually a plug to mold composite on👍
Bunnings. A piece of acrylic about a metre square? Easy to drill and or bend with a gentle application with a cheap hot air gun. Cut a rough chunk off to fit a WR250R, just kept effing around with height and width, plus "lip", until I had a reasonable compromise for my needs, which was a bit of load off the body, and clear air to the helmet. About $40.....
I started riding motorcycles when I was 17 and 1954. I was still riding motorcycles and my quotes windscreen is really a debris screen protect me from the trucks drop in Sandersville stones and thorough protect me from tires, picking up debris from the road and throwing it into my face I won’t ride without one full screen.
My brother’s 2022 KLR has a stock windscreen which makes for an easier more comfortable ride than my DR650. Looked at aftermarket windscreens for the DR but undecided for many of the reasons you stated.
The stock windscreen on my Super Meteor makes my helmet shake pretty badly above 45mph. No adjustments available. Going to take it off for a few rides and see if the ride’s better…
Amen to crappy windscreens. The stock one on my 790 produced significant noise and turbulence to my head. Terribly noisy and tiring on the highway. Awful. Got the Rade Garage one and it’s great.
After debating with myself about putting a windscreen on my DRz. I ended up putting on the type that mounts low to the headlight mask. I wanted wind pressure off my torso, but did not want to add buffeting or to worry about clipping my face on a windscreen. As it turns out the windscreen worked out perfectly, it breaks the wind🤔 nicely, there's no buffeting at all(not that I ride the DRz at high speed) even at 65+mph and its far enough away from me that I'm not worried about clipping it.
I used a windscreen on my drz was great for street riding until I went off road, failed riding a rock step off and almost decapitated myself. scary stuff glad it broke off during that wreck. Did not buy a replacement, I'll take wind on my head over no head anyday.
I ordered a taller screen recently from GP Kompozit - Still waiting for it. It claims to be 15cm higher than the stock one, and fits on the adjustable mount of the bike. So it sounds like a win-win to deflect helmet buffeting a bit. Since if I duck down about 20cm the ride is much quieter and relaxed (save for the awkward riding position). So a taller screen should let me sit upright and still have some peace and quiet. Hopefully it's worth the price.
For about $120. on my KLR i added the rally screen kit which allows the angle of the screen to adjusted, found the sweet spot and then added a deflector on top, Absolutely no turbulence
Very hard to say due to all the variables. I certainly think it's a good reason to buy an adjustable one. And there are always those little spoilers you can add to the top in case there's too much noise due to turbulence.
@@crosstrainingadventure Heard that allot! Think I will definetly get a adjustable one, the stock one on my deauville 650 is okay ish but its old and to low. And since il be going for a 13 hour drive to norway I best be prepared, and its also nice for the colder days.
Really more annoyance then they are worth at least in my case , it takes too much stuffing around to get them to work effectively without the noisey buffeting .
When I ride one of my motorcycles, I ride a motorcycle. When I don't want to be in the wind, I drive a car. I think if someone doesn't like to be in the wind should drive a car.
Meh, the few times I've had a windshield, I didn't like it. It always felt like the second you hit the road you'd catch a giant moth right where you spend most of your time looking, and then spend the rest of your rude trying to peer over the top of the screen. I'll just take the bugs to the face and chest, like a proper man, so I can go home and cry to my wife about how bad the Junebugs hurt.
@@crosstrainingadventure Ok....I got one....How about a 2 hour video on how to pack the stock DR650 toolkit so that: 1. it will fit back into the bloody holder and 2. the case itself doesn't break under the stresses of all those tools being held in by one lousy clip.
I put a windscreen on my DR650. I went from 40 mpg, to 80 mpg. Also, the top speed went from 220 klms per hour, to 375 klms per hour. Was it worth the upgrade? Depends on personal preferences....
The gap mentioned at 3:15 is critical. In many cases, a windscreen can be improved by simply offsetting it away from your fairing some so air can travel behind it. The idea is to prevent flow separation which creates the turbulence you feel.
It made a massive difference to my bike when I did it.
This is true that is why Harley Davidson road glide provides event just below Windscreen
I've put 3 different windscreens on my Ninja 1000. I finally found one that was smaller, but the shape was the biggest factor. It still creates turbulence, but the vortices were directed in a better way. Sometimes you have to look at the forums, and not the reviews because some people are just angry that they spent several hundred dollars on something that's not satisfactory.
Madstad. You should highlight them. I rode through hurricanes twice on two different bikes with a madstad. Wouldn't have survived without it / them. Simply the Best windscreen you can get best design. They don't make them for all bikes but they are work of art.
I’m 6’5” and on a 2019 Africa twin. I was finding wind buffeting of my head, and some times body. I also ride off road mainly and was worried I would slap my throat into windscreen.
I decided to cut the oem screen down considerably. Now get no buffeting, good clear view and helps keep temps down in this Queensland heat.
Same hight on a Triumph explorer and had the same problem. I tried a few screens before just giving up and running a short summer fly screen and ear plugs. Wish I didn't waste my time and money on trying different screens when I could have just cut the original screen down.
Same size on a 22 africa twin. I have been trying all sorts of stuff. I ride with the windscreen off which eliminated the buffetting but sooooo loud. Even with earplugs. I have a couple other things to try. If I can't get it figured out, I might sell the bike. My rf 1400 helmet is super quiet when I stand up, even if I am 3 inches off the seat. Hopefully I figure it out soon.
My 701 has a Nomad Adv screen, which transformed the bike from an overweight and over powered trail bike into a genuine all rounder, fairly comfortable on the highway, pretty good on trails, pretty good everywhere, doing pretty well anything. Oh yeah, and the Seat Concepts seat. I need that, too.
one add-on i hadn't thought of before i was rec'd it and tried them is front fork windguards they make to usually put on harleys or other cruisers, but i found they work just as well on adv bikes...attaching a set of fork windguards cuts way down on the wind that comes up from underneath the handlebars and windscreen, etc. so yeah, they don't work for everyone, but can make a world of a difference....
Another great vid 👍🏼 really appreciate your honesty with your own trials and errors. The motorbike body profile, fairing and fork tunnel design are also significant factors in airflow. Various Africa Twin models are a good example of how different, even subtle designs affect airflow. Riders of the Adventure Sport model and the older CRF1000 model often swear by fork tunnel air dams to reduce buffeting. The same air dams do relatively little on the CRF1100 due to subtle different contours in fairing and body profiles.
Yep, I've heard guys immediately blame the windscreen when it doesn't work well but it can be very complex trying to make it work properly on various bikes....
I guess I'm one who doesn't like a screen ever since a childhood wreck.. I do like a bit of fairing, & being election time the yard signs are great for mockups & eventually a plug to mold composite on👍
Bunnings. A piece of acrylic about a metre square? Easy to drill and or bend with a gentle application with a cheap hot air gun. Cut a rough chunk off to fit a WR250R, just kept effing around with height and width, plus "lip", until I had a reasonable compromise for my needs, which was a bit of load off the body, and clear air to the helmet. About $40.....
Great explanation to windscreen turbulence. Thanks.
Cheers Matt!
I started riding motorcycles when I was 17 and 1954. I was still riding motorcycles and my quotes windscreen is really a debris screen protect me from the trucks drop in Sandersville stones and thorough protect me from tires, picking up debris from the road and throwing it into my face I won’t ride without one full screen.
My brother’s 2022 KLR has a stock windscreen which makes for an easier more comfortable ride than my DR650. Looked at aftermarket windscreens for the DR but undecided for many of the reasons you stated.
As a MT09 owner, yes any bloodly wind screen would do please.
The stock windscreen on my Super Meteor makes my helmet shake pretty badly above 45mph. No adjustments available. Going to take it off for a few rides and see if the ride’s better…
Amen to crappy windscreens. The stock one on my 790 produced significant noise and turbulence to my head. Terribly noisy and tiring on the highway. Awful. Got the Rade Garage one and it’s great.
After debating with myself about putting a windscreen on my DRz. I ended up putting on the type that mounts low to the headlight mask. I wanted wind pressure off my torso, but did not want to add buffeting or to worry about clipping my face on a windscreen. As it turns out the windscreen worked out perfectly, it breaks the wind🤔 nicely, there's no buffeting at all(not that I ride the DRz at high speed) even at 65+mph and its far enough away from me that I'm not worried about clipping it.
Mate I’ve never bought one I just make them to suit the bike bit tricky but I get exactly what I want ride safe Baz cheers
Me neither
I used a windscreen on my drz was great for street riding until I went off road, failed riding a rock step off and almost decapitated myself. scary stuff glad it broke off during that wreck. Did not buy a replacement, I'll take wind on my head over no head anyday.
I ordered a taller screen recently from GP Kompozit - Still waiting for it.
It claims to be 15cm higher than the stock one, and fits on the adjustable mount of the bike. So it sounds like a win-win to deflect helmet buffeting a bit. Since if I duck down about 20cm the ride is much quieter and relaxed (save for the awkward riding position). So a taller screen should let me sit upright and still have some peace and quiet. Hopefully it's worth the price.
Hope it works well, Aran. They do have to be quite high to throw the windflow over the helmet instead of into it.
For about $120. on my KLR i added the rally screen kit which allows the angle of the screen to adjusted, found the sweet spot and then added a deflector on top, Absolutely no turbulence
No experience always rode naked bikes so not sure I even like them but I’m 63 and want to go touring.😊
Will a tall windscreen be uncomfortable for my passanger?
Very hard to say due to all the variables. I certainly think it's a good reason to buy an adjustable one. And there are always those little spoilers you can add to the top in case there's too much noise due to turbulence.
@@crosstrainingadventure Heard that allot! Think I will definetly get a adjustable one, the stock one on my deauville 650 is okay ish but its old and to low. And since il be going for a 13 hour drive to norway I best be prepared, and its also nice for the colder days.
My bush pig gets real nervous at 105mph+. Would a windscreen help?
I geared my DR650 up to the Moon and it barely pulls 162km/h totally stock.
@@davidnobular9220 Mines geared up a bit, and I hit like 107 mph on the stock speedo.
@@Enemiesexposed Not bad!! A touch over 173 km/h indicated. A strong 6 speed gearbox would be nice....
@@davidnobular9220 Why did they deny us a 6th gear? I still reach for 6th alot.
Really more annoyance then they are worth at least in my case , it takes too much stuffing around to get them to work effectively without the noisey buffeting .
Windscreen/helment marriage needs to be compatible.
When I ride one of my motorcycles, I ride a motorcycle. When I don't want to be in the wind, I drive a car. I think if someone doesn't like to be in the wind should drive a car.
Some people want to get the most out of their motorcycle :)
Meh, the few times I've had a windshield, I didn't like it. It always felt like the second you hit the road you'd catch a giant moth right where you spend most of your time looking, and then spend the rest of your rude trying to peer over the top of the screen. I'll just take the bugs to the face and chest, like a proper man, so I can go home and cry to my wife about how bad the Junebugs hurt.
😂 Yeah I've never been a fan of the high windscreens for that reason.
Next up: How to choose the best valve caps for adventure riding....
I'm on it. Probably a five part series...
@@crosstrainingadventure Ok....I got one....How about a 2 hour video on how to pack the stock DR650 toolkit so that:
1. it will fit back into the bloody holder and
2. the case itself doesn't break under the stresses of all those tools being held in by one lousy clip.
A best way to reduce hearing loss is by riding an electric motorcycle 👍♥️
Except its the wind noise that usually causes the damage
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I put a windscreen on my DR650. I went from 40 mpg, to 80 mpg. Also, the top speed went from 220 klms per hour, to 375 klms per hour. Was it worth the upgrade? Depends on personal preferences....
With adjustment you can probably get even more improvement than that, Billy. You should find your wheelies are at least 68% longer too.