Would You Like to See The NBA Champion Face the Best International Team? | THE ODD COUPLE

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  • Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
  • THE ODD COUPLE - Chris Broussard & Martin Weiss discuss some scenarios where the NBA could possibly play against teams from countries outside the United States.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 394

  • @njb2111
    @njb2111 Місяць тому +44

    Here we go guys. Brace yourselves. Let the flip flopping begin....

  • @Tonyoung55
    @Tonyoung55 Місяць тому +27

    My guy Chris just talking

  • @reggiet5376
    @reggiet5376 Місяць тому +10

    The only reason international teams stand a chance is because of their NBA players. If it was champion vs champion then all the international NBA players would remain with their NBA teams.

    • @krysis54
      @krysis54 Місяць тому

      @@reggiet5376 the top 5 best NBA players are international players. America doesn't provide quality basketball anymore. The best American NBA player (based on MVP votes) is Tatum and he isn't even the best player on his own team. The only NBA teams that could beat current international teams would be the first 3 peat bulls and the Kobe/Shaq lakers

    • @coachwalk7485
      @coachwalk7485 Місяць тому

      Top 5 players international plus American doesn’t provide quality basketball should = American losing the Olympics. So far it has = American dominance. The lack of NBA talent outside America is evident. Jokic isn’t reflective of Serbian basketball. Giannis isn’t reflective of Greek basketball. Luka couldn’t even make the Olympics with his country. Shai G. played his formative years (high school) in USA. He’s not reflective of Canadian bball. These exceptions prove the rule. These players are exceptions not the norm.

    • @skillethead15
      @skillethead15 Місяць тому

      @@krysis54Is that why team USA is smashing on every opponent they face? America is by far the best country producing the best players. Serbia has 1 guy, Slovenia has one guy, Greece has one guy…. America has a 2 teams worth of all stars. It isn’t close and people like you need to stop pretending that it is.

    • @krysis54
      @krysis54 Місяць тому

      @@skillethead15 the best 15 Americans can't beat the best 15 international players. The WHOLE USA all-star team broke even with Serbia while Jokic was on the floor in the last game. If America was so dominant, how did one player effectively make them look like children. America literally had to recruit 2 foreigners this year lol.

  • @TheRealMichaelP
    @TheRealMichaelP Місяць тому +6

    Chris your idea is brilliant, it shouldn’t be all star team vs all star team like the Olympics but the top teams from each league face off like soccer

    • @DJ.Generation
      @DJ.Generation Місяць тому +3

      That’s true World Champions
      I don’t know how people don’t get that 🤷🏾‍♂️

  • @davoneallen4014
    @davoneallen4014 Місяць тому +23

    Chris always crying about the world has caught up to the USA. Now we see that hasn’t and now he wants to change the narrative

    • @samoso6979
      @samoso6979 Місяць тому +3

      lol the world has caught up. The best players in the NBA are foreign…..

    • @morriswatkins5667
      @morriswatkins5667 Місяць тому +7

      ​@samoso6979 Are you watching the Olympics right now? USA is dominating. There are only five foreign players in the NBA that are actually dominant. All from different countries. USA still dominates basketball overwhelming.

    • @Kodreanu23
      @Kodreanu23 Місяць тому

      When this generation of players retires, the difference will be much less. Three best players from the team are going to retire before the next Olympics.

    • @DJ.Generation
      @DJ.Generation Місяць тому +1

      @@morriswatkins5667yeah but for the world championship it wouldn’t be all-star teams, but t would be the nba champs team & roster vs. the euroleague champs
      So it’s very possible they could lose.
      Your thinking of KD, LeBron l, curry etc
      It would be Jaylen Brown, Tatum Derick white etc

    • @MonkeyTing_
      @MonkeyTing_ Місяць тому

      Facts he’s always complaining

  • @moodmuzik5785
    @moodmuzik5785 Місяць тому +93

    They spent months saying the usa is going to struggle but there destroying teams . Now there switching the narrative

    • @315giants
      @315giants Місяць тому +13

      they beat sudan by a point they beat germany by 6 thats not destroying lol

    • @julianbell9161
      @julianbell9161 Місяць тому +39

      @@315giantsthose were meaningless exhibition games. As soon as the real games started, they’ve beaten every team by 20 points, including South Sudan

    • @adtastic1533
      @adtastic1533 Місяць тому +3

      USA hasn't won Jack yet. Still gotta get thru the semi and final.

    • @TheLivewire18
      @TheLivewire18 Місяць тому +1

      You mean as Chris Broussard would say… “Mumfs”

    • @ThirdThinker
      @ThirdThinker Місяць тому +4

      ​@@adtastic1533USA will take care of Serbia like they did the last two times. They don't have to go through the semi final lmao

  • @Darian-be4dq
    @Darian-be4dq Місяць тому +7

    Isnt the Olympics the world championship i thought it was the best players in the world are playing

    • @BadBeatKing
      @BadBeatKing Місяць тому

      Yep for sure

    • @DJ.Generation
      @DJ.Generation Місяць тому

      No it’s country all star teams vs each other
      What Chris is talking about and it keeps going over most people heads is the NBA Cahampions playing other league champs like euroleague or Australian league champs and then when they beat those champ teams they literally rightfully earned the title of WORLD CHAMPS
      Right now it semantics and arrogance to assume the Boston Celtics would be other league champs that exist in the world

    • @deebrown9263
      @deebrown9263 Місяць тому

      @@DJ.Generationman I'm arrogant then cuz the Celtics would definitely beat any European champion by 20 at least , yall got to stop

  • @700lordful
    @700lordful Місяць тому +10

    I’m all fur it. Tired of the misconception that the world is so “caught up”

    • @josiahbravo1649
      @josiahbravo1649 Місяць тому +1

      Facts I would do this just so we can shut people up.

    • @krysis54
      @krysis54 Місяць тому

      @@700lordful the world would destroy the NBA, idk what games you are watching. Jokic, Giannis, sga, Luka, wemby, beats any 5 that the NBA brings. Jokic literally played the WHOLE USA TEAM even in the last matchup (87-87) with bogdonavich as his 2nd best player. Serbia beats any regular NBA team 8 of 10 times

  • @CSmoothh
    @CSmoothh Місяць тому +12

    They should do it like the champions league in soccer. Have the champion from a certain # of countries compete in a tournament. Then that's a legit world champion

    • @dadillonful
      @dadillonful Місяць тому +9

      Literally a waste of time, USA would smoke anyone from any country

    • @alfieb6711
      @alfieb6711 Місяць тому +2

      Football*

    • @DJ.Generation
      @DJ.Generation Місяць тому +2

      @@dadillonfulwhy are so many people this dense?
      It wouldn’t be the USA all stars. It would be the NBA CHAMPIONS TEAM like Boston Celtics or Denver Nuggets vs. The Euroleague Champions.
      Neither country would be all-stars it would be their best pro teams

    • @DariusJones05
      @DariusJones05 Місяць тому +1

      Any NBA champion would destroy euro league and Asian league champions. The world is still not ready yet for it to be competitive CONSISTENTLY. Maybe another 10yrs.

    • @Griemmy
      @Griemmy Місяць тому +1

      ​@@dadillonfulmm tell that to FIFA. In the CLUB world cup it's always the EUROPEAN champions winning against the other continental champions.. though there are some wins from South America. But the parity did not stop FIFA in having the club world cup.

  • @Hamiltonlloyd
    @Hamiltonlloyd Місяць тому +8

    Chris reaching right here

  • @daa_97
    @daa_97 Місяць тому +11

    Hell no if Kendrick nunn leading you to championships I never wanna watch you play against the Celtics…

  • @DMBImpact
    @DMBImpact Місяць тому +9

    Is it just me or a lot of old heads sound like they want the 🇺🇸 to lose or at less not dominate

    • @Whitetooth1030
      @Whitetooth1030 Місяць тому +1

      Factz!!

    • @dadillonful
      @dadillonful Місяць тому +3

      Bunch of mj fanatics hating on lebron

    • @Whitetooth1030
      @Whitetooth1030 Місяць тому +3

      @@dadillonful nah they sabotaging the whole team not even lebron.

    • @anthonytaylor7928
      @anthonytaylor7928 Місяць тому

      Why would the old heads want that?? U must be a young head to come with something stupid like that

    • @coolbreeze2.0-mortemadfasc13
      @coolbreeze2.0-mortemadfasc13 Місяць тому +1

      I’m an old head and I agree. Same reason LeBron only has 4 MVPs. They don’t want him challenging MJ’s legacy.

  • @xrppornstar9483
    @xrppornstar9483 Місяць тому +3

    Basketball should be like Soccer less regular season games. More leagues - more global alignment and the USNBA plays against EuroNBA vs SoAmerNBa vs AsianNBA

  • @jamiesp3901
    @jamiesp3901 Місяць тому +3

    This would set up a NBA Euroleague merger. The NBA can trade out the okc and sacramentos for london and paris

    • @alfieb6711
      @alfieb6711 Місяць тому +1

      Would never happen as some teams play back to backs and the travel is too much for a team playing every 2/3 days

    • @alfieb6711
      @alfieb6711 Місяць тому +1

      Plus im from uk and our league has not even got a team in the EuroLeague or EuroCup and would get smashed by the worst team in the EuroLeague, the Lions just went bust

    • @jamiesp3901
      @jamiesp3901 Місяць тому

      @alfieb6711 they would have nba salary cap and you just make some UK teams. Every euroleague team isn't joining

  • @GoonerGarv
    @GoonerGarv Місяць тому +3

    A basketball champions league if you will.

  • @wyfsports
    @wyfsports Місяць тому +9

    This is a ridiculous conversation

  • @SB-hw1zb
    @SB-hw1zb Місяць тому +9

    what NBA player is going to risk their health on this, especially ones that are in line or make big money?

    • @carlsagan2607
      @carlsagan2607 Місяць тому

      I guarantee they will play the bench players if they make the champions do this. I’m sure all of the stars will hear it from the fandoms on the internet “yall are pussies, you scared?” Sure bud..

    • @mattwhitely1067
      @mattwhitely1067 Місяць тому

      They could get injured skiing in their offseason please

    • @CtFletcher-eg5zj
      @CtFletcher-eg5zj Місяць тому

      @@mattwhitely1067do they ski?

    • @pj1953a
      @pj1953a Місяць тому

      @@SB-hw1zb - no incentive for NBA players to participate. What do they have to gain. Heck, many people here criticize and find fault in the players. Who need that from these amateur podcasters.

    • @mattwhitely1067
      @mattwhitely1067 Місяць тому

      @@CtFletcher-eg5zj they do lots of activities in their off seasons that can result in injury

  • @markmccreadie6212
    @markmccreadie6212 Місяць тому +9

    Only ignorant talk show hosts ever thought any other country could remotely compete with the US team. As I said, the bench of the United States is better by far than any starting 5 of any other team! Forget the starters for the US. The world has caught up my ass haha

    • @Cky-vh5oz
      @Cky-vh5oz Місяць тому +1

      The difference are smaller every years
      In NBA if you do USA Vs rest of the world I think USA have no chances

    • @MrJonnyl123
      @MrJonnyl123 Місяць тому +1

      Well USA does have like 400 million people lol. If you do a USA v Europe where the populations are comparable it would be closer

    • @YeahItsAlexys
      @YeahItsAlexys Місяць тому

      @@MrJonnyl123 Argentina won the World Cup with only a population on 47m so population is a weak excuse

    • @MrJonnyl123
      @MrJonnyl123 Місяць тому

      @@YeahItsAlexys yeh but America is the only country we’re basketball is a major sport. If a team USA was to play team europe then team USA would get smoked because europe has Luka, Giannis and jokic the 3 best players in the world

    • @SuperSonic_868
      @SuperSonic_868 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@MrJonnyl123 Population doesn't really matter that much when it comes to certain aspects of the Olympics. Jamaica has a tiny population of 2.8 million but is always a dominant force in track and field.

  • @MrJonnyl123
    @MrJonnyl123 Місяць тому +1

    A 7 game series every 4 years would be good

    • @Darian-be4dq
      @Darian-be4dq Місяць тому

      There too many injuries in basketball to sustain an international 7 game series plus the NBA games plus the other countries have their overseas leagues too.

  • @spha8010
    @spha8010 Місяць тому +13

    The model Chris is talking about already exists in football. You win your national league and play a champions league which is continental, winners of that play in the club world cup. Americans just dont believe different pro leagues of the same sport can co exist without one taking from the other, which is wierd.

    • @ArnieAlonzo
      @ArnieAlonzo Місяць тому

      ​@@XrexO-g3utrue, no one cares, but no Champions league winner says they are world champions.

    • @agnobayisenalemis
      @agnobayisenalemis Місяць тому

      ​@@XrexO-g3u that might be so, but it's still a competition to go claim World Champion status..

  • @back2back379
    @back2back379 Місяць тому +2

    There already is a “World championship” for basketball, it’s the FIBA World Cup, just like soccer/football has the FIFA World Cup as the sport’s world championship. If players want to be called World champions, that’s the tournament they need to participate in, and if they don’t participate and would rather be doing something else, then that’s on them. Perhaps there’s some guy just sitting on his couch somewhere who’s the fastest sprinter in the world, but if he doesn’t actually go participate in the world championships for Track and Field, then he’s not getting that title. Just because he “could” win doesn’t make him the World Champion.

  • @tru3dialect
    @tru3dialect Місяць тому +5

    Why not send our champs vs their champs, would be fun to watch

    • @coolbreeze2.0-mortemadfasc13
      @coolbreeze2.0-mortemadfasc13 Місяць тому +1

      That’s what’s being discussed. So the NBA champs vs the Euroleague champs.

    • @deebrown9263
      @deebrown9263 Місяць тому +2

      Because we would win

    • @tru3dialect
      @tru3dialect Місяць тому

      @@deebrown9263 yeah just like our all star roster barely beating south sudan and Germany

    • @twizzy6760
      @twizzy6760 Місяць тому

      @@tru3dialectyou’re comparing a team put together in a couple of months vs an NBA championship team with years worth of chemistry. Bad take

    • @tru3dialect
      @tru3dialect Місяць тому

      @@twizzy6760 a bad take is just assuming we'd win and dominate when it's been shown talented American teams don't automatically win

  • @rafa521NOLA
    @rafa521NOLA Місяць тому +2

    The NBA should invite EuroLeague teams to the NBA Cup. Problem solved.

    • @DJ.Generation
      @DJ.Generation Місяць тому +1

      Damn that’s the smartest idea I heard.
      Use that to host pro league champs from around the world and that would be for the title of world champs and the NBA finals would be for NBA Champs.
      It would incentivize good teams to take that tournament seriously and all the teams should be fairly fresh and healthy to give it their all.
      And it would be interesting if other teams held the world champion while the NBA champs was another team kind of like wrestling or boxing where they would want to “Unify the Championship “
      Genius idea they need to hear 🧠

  • @NewEarthSon
    @NewEarthSon Місяць тому +1

    If its a champions league contest, than sure that contest would need its standard rule but if its own leagues, than no. the different court dimensions, ball size and time length for games along with amount of timeouts you can call puts a different twist to the type of basketball.

  • @cameronramey9667
    @cameronramey9667 Місяць тому +1

    Rob G is right and Noah Lyles is clueless about basketball. The best players on every Olympics team are in the NBA and the teams with the best NBA players have gotten furthest in this tournament. It's ridiculous to think the Celtics would do anything other than smash the Euro league champs.

  • @Gtails-1005
    @Gtails-1005 Місяць тому +3

    Chris u tryin to sound smart but it comes off as dumb

  • @AmasBansalArt
    @AmasBansalArt Місяць тому

    They have the model required in football with the Champions League. Also they used to have the McDonald's Championship, where the champion CLUB teams would play in a tournament.

  • @ojogbaneamedu2501
    @ojogbaneamedu2501 Місяць тому +2

    This is a semantics debate. There is no doubt the NBA Champion is the best basketball team in the world, don’t think Lyles would even deny that. The NBA is however a national (or two country, counting Canada) league. For Americans best in the world = World Champion, while in Europe & globally it does not.
    The best way to explain this is football (soccer). In football, the best team in the world is typically the team that wins the UEFA Champions League (best team in Europe) but they would still only ever refer to themselves as the Champions of Europe. Only after winning the Club World Cup, would that team refer to themselves as World Champion.
    So it’s just down to however you want to interpret the meaning of World Champion.

    • @jo1442
      @jo1442 Місяць тому +1

      This is not semantics, you can’t be champion of the world in a national league. Had the nba been an international league that would be much different. The problem is people understanding terms and verbiage. No one is denying the NBA is the best league in the world. It’s just you cannot give yourself a false title base off of feeling or opinion.

    • @DJ.Generation
      @DJ.Generation Місяць тому

      @@jo1442well we are arrogant as Americans, so this arrogance for self proclaimed titles is a long list of arrogant thinking we have

    • @lalakerspro
      @lalakerspro Місяць тому

      @@DJ.Generation Not arrogance, we are the best at basketball and we know it. One look at the olympics shows that

    • @DJ.Generation
      @DJ.Generation 27 днів тому

      @@lalakerspro it's STILL ARROGANCE
      That's like going to a pickup game and you tell people your not even going to play because you already know your going to win anyways.
      Whether it's true or not, you still have to play to prove it
      It's actually embarrassing and I see why other countries hate us.
      Your so arrogant, you don't even see how arrogant you are
      "Privilege is invisible to those who have it"

  • @Mj-uz1ng
    @Mj-uz1ng Місяць тому +2

    Chris STOP IT !!!!

  • @coolbreeze2.0-mortemadfasc13
    @coolbreeze2.0-mortemadfasc13 Місяць тому

    Dude on the right is a shock jock type.

  • @Killa_Kamz
    @Killa_Kamz Місяць тому +1

    So the only way to make it competetive is to put one arm around our backs by making just the NBA champs play when the rest of the countries plays their entire best players. We just send a team that may have only 1 or 2 of the top US players instead? All that just to prove whats already a given that, the US runs basketball still and for quite some time.

  • @agnobayisenalemis
    @agnobayisenalemis Місяць тому +1

    Football (European soccer) has the best club teams playing there in the Champions League (CL), teams from all over Europe..The winner of that plays in the Club World Cup to claim world champion status..That doesn't take away anything from the prestige the CL still has, which is more than the CWC..And the European champions tend to win that more often than not..
    I think the problem is NBA champs have labeled themselves World champs so long it's scary to think they might get beat and not.have that claim to guys like Chris Broussard..

  • @zvbx
    @zvbx Місяць тому +1

    I’ve said in the past to make the NBA All Star Game the NBA All Stars vs The World.

  • @SeekingTheTruth1
    @SeekingTheTruth1 Місяць тому

    The NBA champion versus the Euro Champion would GROW the game. And that’s what we want. Maybe it could grow close enough be as popular as soccer. Maybe….

  • @NewEarthSon
    @NewEarthSon Місяць тому +2

    What Chris wants is what they have in European Futbol.... Its called champions league. At the moment USA would win a champions league/Club world cup type contest but give other countries in Africa, Europe and South America time to make their leagues and develop players for a 20 to 25 year time span, USA would no longer be dominant in basketball.

  • @TonyCyprus
    @TonyCyprus Місяць тому +1

    An NBA team winning a world championship tournament is a club world championship.
    You need win at the international level (country vs country) to be a world champion. That's the rule for all other sports so why is it different for basket ball?

    • @deebrown9263
      @deebrown9263 Місяць тому +1

      It's a waste of, no other league can compete, u do realize most like the other leagues best players probably would be in their nba team

  • @70BTHS
    @70BTHS Місяць тому

    Best way would be for the previous season's NBA champion to get the last week of their preseason replaced by a best of 3 series against the winner of a separate tournament. Ie. European champ vs Asian champ etc. winner of that tournament plays the NBA champ in the US for the world title

  • @graeadventures
    @graeadventures Місяць тому

    This 24 team is built different. They beating teams by 20 in between parties, while other team are training, USA team is partying lol

  • @ReachxGames
    @ReachxGames Місяць тому

    I wish the NBA would work with the basketball leagues and do something like the Champions League. You can take the top 4 NBA teams (the teams in the conference finals) and top 4 teams of the Euro League and have them play in tournament. BUT maybe I’m over estimating how big Basketball is outside of the U.S.

  • @NBAAgent17
    @NBAAgent17 Місяць тому +2

    International starting 5 for me is Schroder Doncic SGA Giannis Jokic vs Team USA or NBA champion like Celtics?

    • @Ro6ns
      @Ro6ns Місяць тому

      That would be a fine game for team USA, the Celtics would play the champion of whatever league that’s 2nd best world.

    • @DJ.Generation
      @DJ.Generation Місяць тому

      Neither side would be all-star teams. It would be like the Boston Celtics vs. the euro league champions vs the Australian league champions
      Basically the NBA team beat would need to beat the best pro teams in the world
      So it would be different from the word cup or Olympics because their not country all-star teams just the best championship teams from their leagues like how soccer does it

    • @deebrown9263
      @deebrown9263 Місяць тому +1

      All them guys you named would be in the nba not international teams

  • @brickmoney4152
    @brickmoney4152 Місяць тому +1

    Bruh why would you want the NBA players to be flying back in forth across seas. Financially it doesn’t make sense. Health wise it don’t make sense. Imagine being injured then having to travel to Europe next . Adam Silver can kick rocks , can’t wait until he gets replaced

  • @MrLILv104
    @MrLILv104 Місяць тому

    Have a league similar to the champions league. Where top 5 teams from the major leagues and regions play against each other. At the start of each nba season.

  • @bdguydon123
    @bdguydon123 Місяць тому

    I'm with Chris on this

  • @alfieb6711
    @alfieb6711 Місяць тому +1

    if anything Panathinaikos vs Boston

  • @Ro6ns
    @Ro6ns Місяць тому +1

    The best basketball is being played in the USA, fact.

  • @zacharydavis4398
    @zacharydavis4398 Місяць тому +1

    0:00 - 7:03 time out … are you saying that because these international teams may or may not have up to one to three players not playing with the rest of their international team(s), means that the international teams that primarily play together in international league (play/rules/officiating/court/ball/etc) are void of any advantage/opportunity/etc of building MORE team chemistry with the rest of their team that is primarily/majority in tact. Eesh
    I gotta pause on this clip. Thank you next please.
    Do/be better than that Brou 😅that’s an interesting take to make a stand on after you just described in part how it’s a different game LOL

  • @RichboiRob
    @RichboiRob Місяць тому +2

    SORRY THIS TRAM IS BETTER THAN THE DREAM TEAM 🤷🏿‍♂️

  • @souki0777
    @souki0777 Місяць тому

    A whole 7 or even 5 games series would be a lot.I thing a nice idea would a final 4 in which the two european finalist of euroleague play each other and the two nba finalists play each other and the winners play in the final

  • @NewEarthSon
    @NewEarthSon Місяць тому

    We do not need to standardize rules. In fact it will be great to have different leagues to have different rules, ball size, court dimensions and length of games. That way we get different team constructions and "Home court advantage" will have meaning in sport and not the referee favoring you which that's what the secret meaning is. Different brand of basketball for everyone. Those that like 3 pointers, those that hate it, those that like full zone, those that want 0 zone etc. See players in different circumstances. But yes a champions league/Club world cup should operate on FIBA Standard rules but individual leagues can run their own game rules.

  • @Yakkii
    @Yakkii Місяць тому +1

    The NBA is the best league in the world. They should have a club world champion with the best league champions, it makes sense.

  • @JesseOmezi
    @JesseOmezi Місяць тому +2

    What Noah Lyles said was something normal folk call “common sense” and “logical”. No team in any sport is going to call themselves “world champions” when you’re not competing in a globally competition. Create a world champion and win and then you’ll be world champions. It’s very simple lol. If Noah Lyles lost, he’d still be the world champion because he won at the “world” championship loooool. It’s basic comprehension

  • @STR33TJESSUS
    @STR33TJESSUS Місяць тому +1

    The nba needs a reboot, for it is no longer enjoyable to watch

  • @vissysoundkiller
    @vissysoundkiller Місяць тому +2

    NBA Champion plays the top 2 or 3 World teams

    • @adtastic1533
      @adtastic1533 Місяць тому +1

      Have a mini tournament instead of the All Star game. All Star game is trash.

    • @deebrown9263
      @deebrown9263 Місяць тому

      And the nba champs would win by 20 but also it doesn't benefit them

  • @ronjohnson8952
    @ronjohnson8952 Місяць тому +4

    Rob G is to Chris like Jamie is to Joe Rogan😂Rob G pull up that playoff game from 1967😂 I'm just having fun lol love the show though😂

  • @jubbaJordan
    @jubbaJordan Місяць тому

    Bring back 5 seconds and hand check we already got zones and apparently theses guys won’t be affected by it

  • @ephraimclark5658
    @ephraimclark5658 Місяць тому

    “The world has caught up” is a clear showing of how 90s basketball is not at today’s level.
    Old folks never seen so many great international players in they day so they got scared😂😂😂

  • @MrBimirud
    @MrBimirud Місяць тому

    Martin is underrating the Euroleague teams. They've already beaten NBA teams in recent exhibitions. An NBA vs. Euroleague tourney could blow up in the NBA's face as soon as they lose some games or a tourney final. The gap b/w NBA and Euroleague is nowhere near the gap b/w Team USA and the other nat'l squads.

    • @deebrown9263
      @deebrown9263 Місяць тому

      Man stop it, you hear what u said exhibition, so the preseason where none of the nba teams play any of their best players , it be the 3rd string, no team you can think of beat a nba team , and you do realize the Euro league best players would be playing for their nba team right, all the best players from over there are in the nba

  • @darlingj.canela
    @darlingj.canela Місяць тому

    LeBron setting the tone on both ends plus distributing the ball like Magic at nearly 40 is insane. They just hit the unfair switch and ain't no coming back from that.

  • @therealdarrell282
    @therealdarrell282 Місяць тому +12

    Here we go with the angle to start having NBA teams and foreign teams playing each other. This is where this is going.

    • @cygriffin83
      @cygriffin83 Місяць тому +5

      They already did that during the nba preseason back in 2008/2009. It’s not a new concept or wouldn’t be the first time it happened. The world is just better now than it was.

    • @ericthomas6086
      @ericthomas6086 Місяць тому +5

      All the best foreign players are already in the NBA. So, no it's not going that way. Foreign leagues wouldn't have the best international talent because they are in the league. It's really a pointless debate.

    • @therealdarrell282
      @therealdarrell282 Місяць тому

      @@cygriffin83 I am talking the NBA playing teams overseas home and away during the regular season; a merger. The NBA is going to have a team in Seattle, LV and Mexico City. Once they get a team in Mexico City, where do you think the NBA is going after that?

    • @dwilliams380
      @dwilliams380 Місяць тому

      @@therealdarrell282nowhere too far away. Turns into a scheduling and logistical nightmare

    • @Darian-be4dq
      @Darian-be4dq Місяць тому

      a team in Mexico City I don't want to sound racist but Mexicans don't have the type of athleticism or the height to compete with black Americans in the sport of basketball.

  • @roadwarriormofiah
    @roadwarriormofiah 27 днів тому

    I dont want to see the USA Olympic team I want to see the NBA Championship team vs who ever the Euro League champion is or if its more than 1 top league do a small tournament of champions.

  • @Alart28
    @Alart28 Місяць тому

    Even if the NBA champions sweep the Euro champ, ....at least you can say "World Champion"

  • @jclemons121384
    @jclemons121384 Місяць тому

    I'd rather see USA vs. world, than the Allstar game.

  • @NewEarthSon
    @NewEarthSon Місяць тому

    what is Weiss talking about? you come up playing together its easier to plug you in a system and the team could gel plus your familiar with each other game playing together.

  • @kebesanha5439
    @kebesanha5439 Місяць тому

    Everybody knows that the USA has the better team, but there used to be 1maybe 2 non american in the top 10 players, now it is at least half. You still have more talent, especially at the guard positions. But also, you have to understand that FIBA basketball is totally different, the intensity, the toughness needed, the crowd, you only see that in some playoff games. Some playerss in Europe are not skilled enough for the NBA but they are so tough, they become elite in FIBA basket. Schroeder is the best example. Just ask Lu Dort or Dillon Brooks how it feels to play Yabusele and Lessort, they are known to be tough in the NBA but just got bullied in the Olympics.

  • @danielbenavides1906
    @danielbenavides1906 Місяць тому +2

    Its about legitimacy, yeah the NBA champ would win 9 times out of 10 but then you can actually claim being world champions, It is what it is.

    • @christianrapper5
      @christianrapper5 Місяць тому

      Why does that matter? You don’t see the World Series champion playing the Japanese champion.

    • @danielbenavides1906
      @danielbenavides1906 Місяць тому +2

      @@christianrapper5 and that’s why they can’t be called world champions. In soccer the Champions league is the most important club tournament of the year but its only played in Europe and you don’t see the winners claim to be “World champions” they wait until the following year when they play the South American champion even though they always win.

    • @lalakerspro
      @lalakerspro Місяць тому

      @@danielbenavides1906 south america and europe arent the only places in the world. if thats the case then NBA is world champs cause it involves 2 countries.

    • @danielbenavides1906
      @danielbenavides1906 Місяць тому

      @@lalakerspro I said South America because the final of the tournament it’s usually Europe vs South America. The tournament involves teams from all continents.

  • @skate1030
    @skate1030 Місяць тому +7

    I’m convinced the old heads want this USA team to struggle to have the Dream Team looked at as the best team of all time.

    • @dadillonful
      @dadillonful Місяць тому +3

      That’s all it is

    • @DJ.Generation
      @DJ.Generation Місяць тому

      No your just dense and this topic is going over your head
      This topic technically has NOTHING to do with Team USA.
      The point is Boston Celtics are called World Champions but they did not play other champions teams from other leagues to earn that title.
      We ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT ALL STAR TEAMS
      We are talking about the normal NBA team that wins the NBA championship playing the euroleague champions or Australian league champions to actually be called World Champions

    • @CtFletcher-eg5zj
      @CtFletcher-eg5zj Місяць тому

      @@DJ.Generationlmfao who is going to beat them?

  • @Caos666Lord
    @Caos666Lord Місяць тому

    World vs US LETS GO!

  • @FabKoj-rf5kj
    @FabKoj-rf5kj Місяць тому +1

    Send the ncaa championship team to the Olympic!!

  • @coolbreeze2.0-mortemadfasc13
    @coolbreeze2.0-mortemadfasc13 Місяць тому

    This would be a club event. So the Denver Nuggets would play against a club from Europe. It’s not a world cup of basketball.

  • @hoopersheaven5056
    @hoopersheaven5056 Місяць тому

    Yall the Double Dutch champions

  • @believe_41
    @believe_41 Місяць тому

    the only problem is that Americans who don't make the NBA all play overseas. The Euro and Australia leagues have a lot of American talent in them.

  • @durellscott9411
    @durellscott9411 Місяць тому

    Chris trying to bow out peacefully by saying its not in the best interest for the NBA after the caller disagreed with him 😂

  • @ephraimclark5658
    @ephraimclark5658 Місяць тому

    THE WORLD HAS CAUGHT UP😂😂😂

  • @edubbz1987
    @edubbz1987 Місяць тому +1

    I don't understand how anyone can argue Noah's point. No calls Real Madrid the world champions....

    • @DJ.Generation
      @DJ.Generation Місяць тому

      People are dense and dumb that’s why.
      They keep mentioning Team USA but it wouldn’t be team USA and it wouldn’t be international all star either
      It would be the best pro teams from the world vs each other
      It makes perfect logical sense but people are either to arrogant or dense or both to get it

    • @CtFletcher-eg5zj
      @CtFletcher-eg5zj Місяць тому

      Are they the best soccer team in the world? Are the Celtics the best team in the world no Olympic teams?

    • @deebrown9263
      @deebrown9263 Місяць тому

      ⁠@@DJ.Generationno matter what's the scenario we are winning

  • @sebastiansandstrom4088
    @sebastiansandstrom4088 Місяць тому +2

    Here we go again. Dont we have a legit world champion? There is a final coming up pretty soon if I'm not mistaken. Look, Boston Celtics vs Panatinaikhos will never be that exciting. Sloukas and Lessort vs Tatum and Brown... If you listen to Lyles he was not questioning the quality of the leuge, just stating the fact that it is a domestic competition and the arrogance of calling it's champion, the world champion. The reaction from NBA players kind of just proved his point. To day there is no real money in European club basketball, they constantly face financial trouble and some clubs are kept alive by the good will of the football section. So talent wise, the gap is astronimical, why you wanna go up against that? Euro rules and courts have made the games intressting. But why face players cut from the NBA?

    • @lalakerspro
      @lalakerspro Місяць тому

      You just said that the talent level is less there, that shows that the US has the best league in the world. Thats why we call them world champions.

  • @NewEarthSon
    @NewEarthSon Місяць тому

    If other countries where to start their leagues, nba will want to takevover those leagues since they do not want a upstart alternative due to the fact there are a segment of fans not happy with their product at this time. I believe nba is moving to be even more international with their presence in africa at the moment and also this inseason tournament they introduce last year. I believe their vision is to have what european futbol champions league and the big european league futbol leagues are but with nba running it.

  • @Militarize
    @Militarize Місяць тому

    Bulls in 97 faced off against the world in fiba and won. Should be that way for the Olympics. Whoever the nba champion is is team USA

  • @tuskegeetrey2044
    @tuskegeetrey2044 Місяць тому

    I would rather watch the worst NBA team vs the best European team

  • @TashjianSimms
    @TashjianSimms Місяць тому

    They wanna diss Boston for having a easy path to the finals but bring it up about team Usa

  • @jseay12487
    @jseay12487 Місяць тому

    Where’s rob Parker lol

  • @BigMoneyNBA69
    @BigMoneyNBA69 Місяць тому

    HOW ABOUT NBA OVER 30 vs UNDER 30???

  • @hakimjohnson8231
    @hakimjohnson8231 Місяць тому

    A tournament with all countries against each other to see who has the best players in the world everybody vs everybody

    • @ericthomas6086
      @ericthomas6086 Місяць тому +8

      Have you hear of this thing called the Olympics?

  • @BR21-dz2nu
    @BR21-dz2nu Місяць тому

    12 on 12 USA vs World
    For the World team probably would have
    Luka
    giannis
    Franz Wagner
    SGA
    Jokic
    Jamal Murray
    Wemby
    Gobert idk who else

  • @greggibson33
    @greggibson33 Місяць тому

    I would like to see more 3 on 3 where we layed a double egg with both men's and women's. 🥚🥚

  • @stevenvox6549
    @stevenvox6549 Місяць тому

    You guys keep saying most foreign teams have NBA players. Most are unknown because they never played. One exception is Patty Mills who has been retired and is now 45 years old. The USA team is NBA all stars just showing off and were never threatened. . ..

    • @DJ.Generation
      @DJ.Generation Місяць тому

      But this discussion isn’t about All-Stars
      It would be the Boston Celtics team playing the euroleague champs

    • @lalakerspro
      @lalakerspro Місяць тому +1

      @@DJ.Generation Euroleague teams play NBA in the preseason. Guess who wins most of the time

  • @RyanRith
    @RyanRith Місяць тому

    So what if the nuggets win the nba finals then they have to play Serbia? Who’s jokic playing for?

  • @Yo_LBC13
    @Yo_LBC13 Місяць тому +1

    Give me a champions league ala soccer

  • @NewEarthSon
    @NewEarthSon Місяць тому

    The two most important things needed in basketball in order to compete are Height and Wingspan. After that all you need are Skills and IQ. Athleticism is Vastly overrated. Jokic the best player in the NBA in 2024 cannot jump over a thin paper, cannot out run a turtle vertically or horizontally but he has height 6'11, wingspan 7'3 put together with skills which are dribbling, shooting, passing and High IQ when to utilize said skill set. Thats it!
    The top ten countries with tallest people by average height as of 2024 are the following ranked tallest to shortest. I also listed the countries population next to them.
    1 Netherlands 18M
    2 Montenegro 700K
    3 Estonia 1.5M
    4 Denmark 6M
    5 Iceland 400K
    6 Latvia 2M
    7 Bosnia and Herzegovina 3.5M
    8 Czech Republic 11M
    9 Serbia where Jokic is from 8M
    10 Lithuania 3M has Jonas Valančiūnas who beat the USA C team in the 2023 FIBA World Cup only to lose to Germany in the Final. Jonas was the only NBA player on that team
    none of these countries take basketball seriously except for maybe Serbia and Lithuania. You cannot tell me if the countries I listed above were to have a basketball system similar to how Europe has its sports academy and Pyramid league system based on merit, that they would not challenge/beat the USA in basketball even with its lower population compared to USA. Same for African countries as well.
    So Lithuania a country of 3M with only 1 nba player was able to beat USA top to bottom nba roster albeit being its "C Team". 3M vs 330M. Thats pretty impressive
    Serbia a country of 8M was able to produce the best Basketball player vs a country of 330M that being the USA. Thats more impressive.

    • @deebrown9263
      @deebrown9263 Місяць тому

      Jokic looks as good as he does because lack of competition at his position, he's a real center going against smaller guys they got playing center in these days

  • @CousinEddiesTown
    @CousinEddiesTown Місяць тому

    TY Chris, always hearing this BS about how these other teams have been playing together.....

  • @lamart3857
    @lamart3857 Місяць тому

    If usa plays against the world they get 💩 beat down their leg imagine a team with luka,joker,giannis,shai,siakam,markannen,porzingis,murray,wemby,sengun,wagner and porzingis

  • @trainerrob1622
    @trainerrob1622 Місяць тому

    You guys have to do more research on these topics before you roll them out on your show. Firstly the Euroleague is already an international tournament. Its not a league in the way US fans and media define league. Its more like the NBA in season tournament. Every country has their own domestic league with their own championship so figuring that out would be messy and without adding multiple European clubs there wouldn`t be enough teams to make a tournament. The NBL out of Australia is the only league outside Europe that could field a team that would have a chance to beat a bottom tier NBA team. All of those league best players play for NBA teams. Every year for the past decade or so international teams play NBA teams in the pre-season... Go look at the results.

  • @anthonyquiambao9868
    @anthonyquiambao9868 Місяць тому

    Did the league done it in the 90s? Where the Bulls the eventual champs vs euroleague. McDonald's championship?

  • @edgarbolden5742
    @edgarbolden5742 Місяць тому

    It is come down to getting MVP LJ vs KD

  • @cryptidian3530
    @cryptidian3530 Місяць тому

    Team World would cook team USA. We would have the best 5 or 6 players in the world.

  • @Griemmy
    @Griemmy Місяць тому

    We need a Club world Cup.. FIFA has no problem with it even if the UEFA champs always win the club world cup all the time..

  • @laserglider
    @laserglider Місяць тому

    Can yall stop this tired debate. Noah Lyles is right because if he takes a bunch of the worlds fastest sprinters in the world and runs a 4x100 at a diamond league event they can’t call themselves the world champions because they won the diamond league series

  • @Whitetooth1030
    @Whitetooth1030 Місяць тому

    Some these programs damn near got me believing they trying to sabotage their own country dominance aka USA basketball.

  • @DJ.Generation
    @DJ.Generation Місяць тому

    For all of you dense people that keep saying “Team USA…. best League….”
    First The BOSTON CELTICS ARE The world Champs NOT Team USA so the Boston Celtics would need to play other pro champ teams in the world.
    So they may not destroy other teams like you think
    SECOND it would be the champs from other leagues like euroleague it would NOT be All Star teams on either side.
    And just because we all (probably correctly) assume the Boston Celtics would beat any team, until it actually happens it not a FACT

  • @NewEarthSon
    @NewEarthSon Місяць тому

    It will be better for the sport of Basketball. Imagine having England win all FIFA Futbol World Cups and Olympics with no serious challengers and when they lose its because of the team and not the opponent? I do not think futbol would be the #1 sport it is today. That is basically what the USA is in Basketball. Thus why Basketball remains number 2 sport in the world and in some countries not even top ten.

  • @joshuamarrero8382
    @joshuamarrero8382 Місяць тому

    The best players from Europe go to the NBA so how would they ever beat an NBA team smh