My 2 year old daughter(while watching over my shoulder) just informed me that you are a big kid. She was very adamant of that. “He’s a big kid” she said. My 5 year old son corrected her and told her you were in fact a grown-up. They’re now arguing whether or not you’re a big kid or a grown up and now I can’t hear you explain the keys to a good OHP. So thanks for not being clear at the beginning on if you are a big kid or a grown up.
Semicolons are meant to combine two related but individually complete sentences without the need of a conjuction. So instead of, "I pressed the weight, and it was heavy," you could simply say, "I pressed the weight; it was heavy." As a writer myself, they're nice for sentence structure variety, but certainly not necessary in most instances of casual writing.
@@ozzy3ml A dash has had a different function to a hyphen. An em dash, which is a product of the printing era, is often used in place of a semicolon but that's not what it's intended for. I am not telling you to use or not to use but I thought I would share that information. I am not criticising you in any way at all.
@@ozzy3ml i'm a big fan of the em dash as well (two hyphens in a row), but typically i use that in the context of offsetting a phrase where using commas would be too confusing -- or to create drama, haha. so you could say, "i went to the gym -- as i so often do -- and while i was there, i performed the overhead press; the weight was heavy, but i managed it." ... this has become quite a little story now 😅
@@ozzy3ml? I’ve never even heard of that before. Maybe a pause in a sentence whilst someone’s speaking in a book. Besides that, I can’t recall a similar scenario.
220 lbs is double average strength. I began lifting in Jan. 2013 and it took me... until (let me get my paper log...) April 2017 to hit 220 lbs x 1 in the strict Clean & Press (with a slight layback). A solid four years of lifting. After this, it took me another year and a half to make 239 lbs x 1 at age 46 and a BWT of 265 lbs. Fun fact = I got large biceps drug-free from all those muscle cleans! Never trained arms directly, but I do grip! More important than numbers, being a lot stronger than I was in my 20s brought me a sense of peace with myself... and it makes me a kinder man!
2:57 I'd like to see her actually ohp 180lbs, that would actually be damn impressive for a woman her size😅 As regarding what the average man "should" be able to press, I think 30-40kg (65-90lbs) is more than enough for the average Joe. I mean, when are you going to put more than that overhead in your day to day life?
@@LCDRformatyeah right, I am not very familiar with how much weight strongwomen move, but I'd assume that with that kind of overhead power she would be pretty fine on a national level in her weight class😅
@@slickjoeyronn2160 I kinda assume that as well😅 She didnt even really know what to say when she was asked how much she can do, seems like the number came out of thin air😅 But you never know, I'd love to see it, thats all I'm gonna say😅
It depends on if you interpret the question as How much CAN the average man press or how much SHOULD the average man be able to press Kind of like reality Vs ideal
@@signs80 I can only imagine it's in a sense of if you can't then you should train to be able to do it because that's what they think the standard should be? Kind of like saying you should be able to run a 30 minute 5k, and if you can't then get there
Honestly, I think everybody is overestimating the physical capacities of the "average man". There's a huge difference between a gym goer and the rest. I'd say that 40kg from a random man on the street is way too high. 25/30kg sounds more realistic to me.
25 / 30 KG is way too light. Before I even started the gym I could do 50KG and I never pushed myself because I had a dislocated shoulder from 6 months before that - At the time, that was maybe 45% of my body weight
@@shaneoshea5166 Height + weight + previous exercise/hobbies? If you grew up playing video games all day and not exercising and you're not gigantic I don't believe it.
@@shaneoshea5166 body weight / job matters. If you're a 96kg labourer, 40-50kg is doable. If you're a 72kg office worker that goes for a run occasionally, 20-30kg.
Agree. I think the average man, in US, is overweight, untrained, with poor ROM/endurance/strength. Assuming they could even get into the right position, I think 25% of body weight (unless obese) is realistic
from my experience in the gym so far, average seems to be 30-40kg for four or five reps. overhead press is very much ignored by most. whenever i overhead press 80kg or higher i notice that people tend to move away from the station i'm at, seems like people are quite afraid of them going wrong and so they avoid them.
As someone who does do English for a living (so to speak), I use semicolons to join two sentences which keep to the same idea or theme; these sentences can still be divided using other appropriate punctuators without causing structural issues. Other uses of semicolons include: separating items on a list that are too long to just shove a comma between; being stuck up; making a winky face. Also, I can OHP over my bodyweight ;-)
The way I've understood it is as the function is. It's both the dot and a comma so it's in between the 2. As you demonstrated, you can join 2 things together that don't qualify as separate sentences nor a list of things which you would use a comma for.
I'm a beginner weight lifter. I'm 38, 160lbs at 5'11. Quite lean. I could probably ohp 110-120lbs. On the other hand, I just dead lifted 190lbs x8 today. Which I'm proud of.
Uh, I think you could easily find random people off the street with a deadlift over bodyweight. Certainly, I think the majority of able bodied males within like a month or two of training could manage it.
Everyone is different with their genetics. For me I would argue an OHP of 120lb for a few reps is harder than a 190lb for many reps deadlift. For me after about 2 years of training, 5’11 about 160 also I could OHP around 50-55kg for a few, but my deadlift was at 190KG for singles. I found over 50kg OHP is incredibly slow to increase whereas if you add weight every week to your deadlift it goes up for a very surprising amount of time before you slow down progress
Semicolons are a useful way to combine two clauses, which could stand on their own as two separate sentences separated by a period/full stop, but which are kept together in a single sentence because they are conceptually linked. In the past twenty years or so, it has become common practice to string conceptually related clauses together separated only by a comma. People seem to manage to understand what is being said, so maybe it's not such a big deal, but the semicolon does have some usefulness in signalling that the separation is more than just, say, items in a list, or a set of alternatives; but is, rather, a whole new thought which relates to that which has gone immediately before. Such as, "The man hurried to the pharmacy; his child urgently needed medicine." P..S..Just because you like weight training doesn't mean you can't understand grammar.
I've always operated off of the following for how much the average man should be able to lift (BW = Bodyweight): OHP: 0.5 x BW Bench: 0.75 x BW Squat: 1 x BW Deadlift: 1.25 x BW For a 200lb man, that would be: OHP: 100lbs Bench: 150lbs Squat: 200lbs Deadlift: 250lbs I think those are pretty reasonable for the average man with my definition of "average man" being someone who is under the age of 65ish with no serious health conditions and goes to the gym 2-3 times per week, 30-45 minute sessions, does some cardio, and is just trying to be a bit stronger, a bit more muscular, a bit healthier, and look a bit better naked.
I agree exactly with your numbers, but I think most men only need to lift 2x week for 6-12 months to hit those and after then extremely little to maintain them.
Been to a lot of gyms, casual lifters (average people). 40kg strict seems to be the standard, some slightly more. In a commerical gym, people side eye anything over 60kg. Powerlifting gyms a different beast.
I'd say that's on the high side for non-gym goers. For manufacturing engineering, we had a book of tables to determine reasonable expectations for lifting objects. Only the strongest 10% of men can be expected to lift 40kg "a few times per day". For a gym-goer, definitely possible.
Me: 36, 240lbs - best push press = 260lbs x 2, best strict press = 225lbs x 4 Been strength training for 3 years but lifted weights on and off since I was 12, so major asterisk. Goal is 275lbs push press for reps before I start competing in strongman. You?
So, you strict press 80 % of your body weight. I'm 145 and press 132 which is 90 %. We seem to have a similar level of OHP strengh considering the difference is normal dur to you being heavier
Amazes me how many folk don't understand what an "average" person is... If only 5% of population of the world can do 2xbw deadlift, 1.5xbw squat and 1xbw bench. I think it would be good to ask folk outside the gym what they feel average should be able to do and compare to the skewed gym answers
That’s correct but he’s asking “should”. The average population is crazy weak and ought to be much stronger just for health reasons. Any man with healthy ROM can OHP 50% bw with 6 months training. I could the first time I did it in HS and I’m not genetically gifted just a regular good athlete who did manual labor as a kid.
@@docd2295 good point, I was thinking "could" more than "should". Yep I agree with 50% bodyweight is a good "should" figure. It's one of my weakest lifts but I know I'm above the 50% mark
@ it’s always been one of my weaker too naturally, which is why I used to train it heavier. Interesting enough the jerk was one of my stronger lifts, which shows how much the legs make that lift. Thanks for the careful reading of my reply. Good luck to you in your lifting!
Most of the people are pretty weak on strict ohp,because they are untrained. I can standing strict ohp 60 kg for 4-5 reps on a relatively bad day at 83-84 kg bodyweight. I started doing deadlifts recently, so a few weeks ago I switched to seated AD press. I did the AD press on monday and failed to lockout the fifth rep with 70 kg. My best seated ohp was 80kg for 12 reps at the bw of 93 kg 10 years ago.To be honest I was pretty surprised with that,because I thought I can't even move it and my buddy who was almost twice my size told me to try it, I managed to beat him by 2 reps.
I am 39, body weight 90kgs, best strict press 87,5kg (193lbs). Done body weight in the past when weighing 80 and 85kgs. Going for 90kgs (198lbs) in a few weeks. Lifetime goal of 100kg (220,4 lbs).
My girlfriend worked for Fed Ex a squirrel(helper in the delivery truck) and she said a job requirement was to be able to overhead lift 75 lbs. She was really frustrated she could only get up to 70. She got mad at me when Insaid I could do 200. I tried to explain she wasn’t using her legs enough and to watch some of Mitch’s clean and jerk videos.
You sure it wasn’t to simply lift 75lb? I worked at ups for a while. They liked it if you could lift 75, but anything over 75 was supposed to be team lift to reduce injury
For me, nothing 😂 Had a motorcycle crash which resulted in my deltoid not working on my right side, had radial to auxiliary nerve transfer surgery to no avail unfortunately. Can't raise my arm above my head without assisting it with my left. Apparently I'm lucky because I have full use of my forearm and usually this injury f**ks your whole arm.
Right there with you man (kinda). Had a neck tumour removed at 16 that took my spinal accessory nerve with it so I now have one functioning middle and upper trap. Couldn’t elevate at all for 18 months, thanks to lev scap compensating I can OHP again now but that’s 12 years down the line. It’s a long, long process.
I really have mixed feelings about OHP. I did lots of em throughout my life. At 63 yrs old I still lift lots but the vertebrae and discs in my back are definitely worn and hurting.
I do overhead press 3x8 with dumbbless with neutral grip one dumbblless is 30kg but i have to say i i have been training long even do that and im 100kg so im not avarage man.
The way you pick up 100 kg and lift it over your head like it's nothing is actually insane. And I'm a bloody 6'1 200 lbs gym rat. Insane. You're the reason I've sort of stopped training purely for hypertrophy and started going more into strength. Videos like this make it obvious that it's not the same ... And that I've got a long way to go. 😅
@@tommulford7138 Not necessarily. My friend is 6'1 / 210llbs and his OHP is 150 pounds. It's a very technical lift requiring both strength and training in the said lift. I'm 5'9 / 183lbs and my max OHP is 200lbs (slow as fuck grind rep + very arched back but no leg push). Bench is 340 for reference.
I've gone off ratios of 0.75 (dumbbell overhead press) to 1 (one armed bar to chest pull downs on lat machine) to 3 (bench) to 4 (squat) to 5 (dead lifts) which works for me now due to shoulder surgery in my 20s some 30 years ago. That would work out to half my bench with dumbbells, which was about 2/3rds my bench when using a bar and more questionable form. It does feel one should be able to shoulder press their ideal body weight (whatever your desired body fat would put you at) which would be 1.5x ideal BW for bench, 2x for squat, and 2.5x for dead lifts. People doing competitive lifting or training like it would probably find this low set of numbers adorable.
I think if you can get to a plate on each side as an average guy that’s a pretty solid achievement. Someone who’s been lifting a while 185, advanced 225, anything beyond strict pressing is outstanding. I’ve hit 250 on a strict but typically only train between 135-185 and shoot for 10-15 reps
A semicolon ismused to seperate two independent clauses within a sentence; whereas, a coma used to seperate parts of a sentence that are dependent upon each other.
I weigh about 76 kg. I don't really do any other shoulder exercises other than standing shoulder strict press. I don't really feel the push press. I do some shoulder health mobility and rear delt assistance work. I'm aiming 3x5 for 80kg. At the moment its comfortable 3x3. Dream goal would be 100kg for a double. Strict form. One day!. Great video. I'll use the advice on programming to get to my lifetime goal.
There is no standard anyone should be able to do. The only number that matter for your lift should be, is it better or easier then it was last time you tried? Progressing from a 5kg to a 6kg OHP is impressive, because the only thing that matters is you are trying to improvs.
I was always taught to use semicolons as if they were a conjunction in a compound sentence. e.g. "I went to the pet store, and I bought pet food." becomes "I went to the pet store; I bought pet food." Sometimes you want to create a rhythm or do something stylistic while conveying related ideas and breaking it up with a comma and conjunction feels like more of a separation than you want.
I’ve always wondered about form on an overhead press. I very strictly do 115lbs for 3-6 reps with absolutely no lower body movement apart from keeping tight. That’s slow eccentric and not jerking the wait up, but going up as fast as possible with control
Forgot to mention that I’m 200-205lbs at the moment and have been overhead pressing 1 time a week for less than 2 months I believe just to kinda try it out and I like it
my first time i was able to get up 125 strict. Im 210lbs. I moved recently and dont have access to a gym. Ive been training overhead press for a couple months now and all i have is a log and 4 25 lb plates in my backyard.
I weigh around ~178 lb and I just hit a PR of 170 lb on OHP. Was stuck at 160 lb for literally years lol. The *average* TRAINED male should be able to hit ~75% of their bodyweight. (So a 180 lb man should be able to press 135). I really do think that is realistic. Above average trained males should strive for a 1x bodyweight OHP, which is what my personal goal is. I hope to hit it someday
I think the reason why the average man doesn’t have a very big overhead press is because most men don’t train it or they don’t train it regularly and consistently. I’m extremely average, however, about seven years ago, I started training overhead press three times a week, same reps and percentages as my squat. My overhead press went from 155 for one rep to 225 for three reps.
My peak was 185lbs seated at 190lbs body weight, 5'11. but that was 2 years ago right before I tore a rotator cuff. I started working out again 4 months ago and right as I got some consistency I have a bike accident and tore the other shoulder, along with breaking some ribs and puncturing a lung... 2 months after that and now I am pressing about 65lbs max and its painful AF
A semicolon has a function that is very different to that of a comma and it is useful, but of course it no longer serves its function reliably when most readers don't know what it is. I think it's fair to say that those people would happily read a piece of text with no punctuation at all, without caring. I am not saying they are wrong in choosing not to care, but communication is simplified and less effective as a consequence. Bear in mind that a lot of people think that reading anything longer than a few short, single clause sentences is out of the question. Like many things in life, your point of view will depend on your position and experience. For example, you won't have to look far to find people who laugh at the idea that bodybuilding, weight lifting, power lifting and strongman are all very different things. I would consider them to be ignorant for having that opinion, but don't think it's very different to somebody thinking that the differences between punctuation marks don't matter very much. A lot of journalists, in 2024, have a poor understanding of punctuation and sentence construction. Many of them don't understand the function of a comma or a coordinating conjunction. They also tend to shy away from compound sentences, and it's difficult to tell if that's their choice or something they think is necessary for the modern reader. I am not telling anybody how to write or what to read, but the average person's vocabulary and ability to communicate with words are far poorer than a few decades ago. Variation and diversity in speech is almost a thing of the past. You can see this demonstrated by the amount of people who will use "insane" and nothing else as an adjective when describing something they think is impressive, strange, stupid, dangerous, foolish, difficult or very good. The result of that is you don't really know what they mean by "insane" without knowing the situation they are in and what they are doing at the time.
Totally weight dependant. I was untrained and could only do the bar when i started at like 20. Although i was quite a bit underweight, i had the physique of an ethopian distance runner
Dude most people will probably never touch a plate on OHP unless they dedicate a significant portion of their training to getting stronger in the OHP which makes them stop being an average person. He doesn’t mean “average genetics but lifts for strength” he means “average person who goes to the gym and wants to be generally fit”
@@maxpflughoeft6806 Would you consider a 2 plate bench to be just as difficult? Because if both are trained equally serious, that's about a 1 plate OHP.
I am about 190lbs, 6'1" and got a huge surgery scar over my sternum I OHP just 100lbs even after training for years because my whole pushing musculature is underdeveloped due to it beeing cut appart
I train the ohp movement; I have for the last 2 year-ish. I’ve pushed press 225lbs and helded it for 10 seconds. Strict press was 215lbs or 220lbs it’s been since September that I’ve been in the gym because it closed and now I do purely calisthenics. In my opinion the average non-gym goer should 90lbs and an average gym goer 135lbs.
I much prefer the overhead standing dbell press. Doing it with a barbell is a lot more a technical lift than most people realize and also harder on the shoulder joint.
I am terrified of doing OHP because the last time I did it, 4 months ago, I got excruciating pain in my upper back that lasted for 10 days. I literally could not function for a week. Obviouisly, something was off about my form; somehow I was putting tremendous pressure on my neck, but I have no idea how I'd adjust it so that doesn't happen again.
I go to the gym for 5 months, doing Greg Nuckol's beginner program since 8 weeks, doing Barbell overhead presses at 40 Kilograms for 7 reps. (Obese 116 kg bodyweight). I think 1 RM I could do 55 maybe.
Im 21 and I OHP strict 110 kgs and i have done 130kgs with momentum(legdrive) at 104 bw having trained almost 1 1/2 years. In comparison i only bench 150 and my pr is 160 which is really close to my ohp which always has been strong however i never realized that it was this strong
So cool that Mitchel is not out of touch with reality. He’s the WSM after a few years of training and is impressed with average guys OHP 95. Definitely a difficult lift especially with no leg drive and bar touching chest (full range of motion) makes is so much harder.
As a 51 year old I consider myself to be strong but not massively so and I can do about:- OHP - 0.75 Bodyweight Bench - Bodyweight Deadlift - 2.25X bodyweight Squat - 1.25 X bodyweight So average man slightly less than that.
I'm 52 years old and have been strongman training for 2 and a bit years, I'm pressing 175lbs max with log. However I believe the average man should press 40% of their bodyweight. Oh ya. .never used a semicolon in my life! Keep up the great content, blessings to you and your family😊
For an average man, half their bodyweight for an overhead press sounds about right. My best strict press is 90 kg, my PB push press - 120 kg (bodyweight 110 kg). By the way, semicolon is not just in English language; I use it sometimes and find its existence appropriate.
“Should” with training is probably around body weight for the average weight man, then apply something like the Wilkes formula for heavier or lighter men. 50% of body weight is probably a good measure for the average guy though.
anyone saying a number and not a % of bodyweight is wrong, there's a big difference between what a 120kg man should be able to OHP versus a 60kg man. If the first one can't OHP 30kg, he's gonna have a problem doing any activity requiring his arms to be up (just based on their weight). If the second one can't it's not the same level of bad
Been focused on OHP for my training. My favourite lift. For me personally. I want to be able to Press my bodyweight. I weigh 67-69 KG, the most I have gotten so far is 65KG x3 strict reps.
It is a hard lift. I genuinely don't know what is considered reasonable for an average man. What I do know is that it took me years to break through a plateau. One thing that finally helped me break 60x5 was incorporating push pressing after doing as many strict reps as I could, it really helped me grind out as much stimulus as possible.
That axel press having 2x 45lbs being only 125lbs total means that axel is lighter than the normal barbell?? I thought it weighed more. I've never used an axel so I don't know.
The average man in the general population I'd expect a little less than half bodyweight; the average man who trains I'd expect to lift a little more than bodyweight. The average cat likes fish. (to combine the two questions: the one about overhead press, and the one about semicolons -- with a comma, colon, and dash thrown in)
I doubt if you asked every guy in a gym who works out regularly what their strict ohp is they would be below bodyweight. Bodyweight is extremely hard and I’d guess that maybe 20% of people who train regularly could do it. Maybe a good metric would be to say it as a percentage of another lift like bench or deadlift. Someone who is super strong and trains regularly would have a higher bench than someone who trains regularly but isn’t yoked. Also this would help with people who don’t train regularly since OHP as a percentage of their bench would probably still work. What percent of bench would you expect?
The average guy who trains wouldn't even be close to a BW OHP. OHP is something where even adding 10lbs takes a great deal of effort, time and consistency
@@Pepesilvia267 Oops, my typo - I meant a little over half for trained! Which proves the point that rather than focus on getting semi colons right it helps to concentrate on the actual words!
for a lighter lifter around 180lbs less is around 0.75x of their bodyweight and for heavier 180lbs plus is around 50-60%, I myself weighs around 130 lbs and can press 110lbs for a triple on a good day and a single on a bad day
I'm definitely an amateur at this stuff, but it feels like half your body weight is a reasonable amount for an average person. One thing I found on Google states: "the average man starts off overhead pressing somewhere between 55-85 pounds for a few repetitions. After a year of training, only 1 in 10 men can press 135 pounds overhead." I think the average weight for a man is 200lbs, or thereabouts? So that would make that a little below half weight. From my own stand point, I'm 95kg/209lbs and am aiming to hit 60kg/132lbs for the first time next week. That's after a little over 7 months training, so I'm happy with that.
I remember the 1st time I ever strict OHP'ed back in 2012 I got 115 lbs for a 1RM and it was my 1st week in the gym. I weighed 230 lbs at the time so 50% bodyweight checks out.
Last I tested my strict OHP (august 2024) I got 79 kg, at a bodyweight of 97 kg. That's from training at home with just sandbags, calisthenics (sometimes weighted) and a kettlebell. Sandbag OHP is freaking hard
Currently I can do my bodyweight (155) on a 1RM push press/jerk. Would be very happy if bodyweight was my working weight on a 5x5 when all is said and done.
I use 2 45lb dumb bells for overhead press. I want to strengthen my core and develop my technique before going too heavy. I weight 170lbs, so I guess I fall into the +/-50% bodyweight category.
I believe i am the average man. Hight 5'9, 165lbs, and 53, average build. I have never stepped foot in a gym, but working on a farm, aquire fitness in another form. My answer would be half the body weight. I can overhead pretty easy 2 bags of feed, (80lbs) Another example, a bale of hay, average weight 80lbs.
Average guy from the street with a little techique teaching around 50% of bodyweight and then adding 5-10kg (10-20lbs) for every year they've been going to the gym (might be more at the start but will slow down) until they're at 150% bodyweight. This would ofcourse require for them to actually train ohp regularly. This math woul put me right now a litlle bit ahead of the schedule weighing 85kg (185lbs) and my best pressing so far is a 70kg (155lbs) log and I've been going to the gym for almost 2 years
My 2 year old daughter(while watching over my shoulder) just informed me that you are a big kid. She was very adamant of that. “He’s a big kid” she said. My 5 year old son corrected her and told her you were in fact a grown-up. They’re now arguing whether or not you’re a big kid or a grown up and now I can’t hear you explain the keys to a good OHP. So thanks for not being clear at the beginning on if you are a big kid or a grown up.
😂😂😂😂
Both kids seem right here
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What is a grown up, if not a very big kid?🧐😄
@@RoundEjy big kid, but super strong one 😂😂
Semicolons are meant to combine two related but individually complete sentences without the need of a conjuction. So instead of, "I pressed the weight, and it was heavy," you could simply say, "I pressed the weight; it was heavy." As a writer myself, they're nice for sentence structure variety, but certainly not necessary in most instances of casual writing.
I use the semicolon once in a blue moon, but generally I use a spaced dash - it seems to serve much the same purpose.
@@ozzy3ml A dash has had a different function to a hyphen. An em dash, which is a product of the printing era, is often used in place of a semicolon but that's not what it's intended for. I am not telling you to use or not to use but I thought I would share that information. I am not criticising you in any way at all.
@@ozzy3ml i'm a big fan of the em dash as well (two hyphens in a row), but typically i use that in the context of offsetting a phrase where using commas would be too confusing -- or to create drama, haha. so you could say, "i went to the gym -- as i so often do -- and while i was there, i performed the overhead press; the weight was heavy, but i managed it."
... this has become quite a little story now 😅
@@ashe1317im taking the ACT in a week and i absolutely suck at grammar,🤣 So im really glad i found this! My main areas are science and math lol
@@ozzy3ml? I’ve never even heard of that before. Maybe a pause in a sentence whilst someone’s speaking in a book. Besides that, I can’t recall a similar scenario.
220 lbs is double average strength. I began lifting in Jan. 2013 and it took me... until (let me get my paper log...) April 2017 to hit 220 lbs x 1 in the strict Clean & Press (with a slight layback). A solid four years of lifting. After this, it took me another year and a half to make 239 lbs x 1 at age 46 and a BWT of 265 lbs. Fun fact = I got large biceps drug-free from all those muscle cleans! Never trained arms directly, but I do grip!
More important than numbers, being a lot stronger than I was in my 20s brought me a sense of peace with myself... and it makes me a kinder man!
+/-50% of bodyweight OHP is perfectly reasonable answer
Best answer honestly
I'm currently at 60% bw and still increasing. My goal is bw
I read this as 50% more than BW lol
For reps or for a ORM?
I’d say this is a good answer for reps. With a strict single at ~70%
2:57 I'd like to see her actually ohp 180lbs, that would actually be damn impressive for a woman her size😅
As regarding what the average man "should" be able to press, I think 30-40kg (65-90lbs) is more than enough for the average Joe. I mean, when are you going to put more than that overhead in your day to day life?
180 lbs is impressive for anyone, for a woman her size it's incredible
@@LCDRformatyeah right, I am not very familiar with how much weight strongwomen move, but I'd assume that with that kind of overhead power she would be pretty fine on a national level in her weight class😅
She ain't lifting 180 lol and she knows that
@@lk-ip1xs I did say incredible
@@slickjoeyronn2160 I kinda assume that as well😅 She didnt even really know what to say when she was asked how much she can do, seems like the number came out of thin air😅 But you never know, I'd love to see it, thats all I'm gonna say😅
That woman really thinks the AVERAGE man should be able to OHP 80kg. When the average man cant even bench 60kg.
It depends on if you interpret the question as
How much CAN the average man press or how much SHOULD the average man be able to press
Kind of like reality Vs ideal
She sounds like she doesn't even know what an OHP is
@@PixelScience What does should mean in this context, should be able to with no training if someone is fit?
@@signs80 I can only imagine it's in a sense of if you can't then you should train to be able to do it because that's what they think the standard should be?
Kind of like saying you should be able to run a 30 minute 5k, and if you can't then get there
all her friends are on gear ...
Honestly, I think everybody is overestimating the physical capacities of the "average man". There's a huge difference between a gym goer and the rest. I'd say that 40kg from a random man on the street is way too high. 25/30kg sounds more realistic to me.
25 / 30 KG is way too light. Before I even started the gym I could do 50KG and I never pushed myself because I had a dislocated shoulder from 6 months before that - At the time, that was maybe 45% of my body weight
@@shaneoshea5166 Height + weight + previous exercise/hobbies? If you grew up playing video games all day and not exercising and you're not gigantic I don't believe it.
@@shaneoshea5166 body weight / job matters. If you're a 96kg labourer, 40-50kg is doable.
If you're a 72kg office worker that goes for a run occasionally, 20-30kg.
Agree. I think the average man, in US, is overweight, untrained, with poor ROM/endurance/strength. Assuming they could even get into the right position, I think 25% of body weight (unless obese) is realistic
@@shaneoshea5166 Most people don't weigh 110kg.
from my experience in the gym so far, average seems to be 30-40kg for four or five reps. overhead press is very much ignored by most. whenever i overhead press 80kg or higher i notice that people tend to move away from the station i'm at, seems like people are quite afraid of them going wrong and so they avoid them.
As someone who does do English for a living (so to speak), I use semicolons to join two sentences which keep to the same idea or theme; these sentences can still be divided using other appropriate punctuators without causing structural issues. Other uses of semicolons include: separating items on a list that are too long to just shove a comma between; being stuck up; making a winky face. Also, I can OHP over my bodyweight ;-)
Thank you for demonstrating
I like using it when i’m buttressing two separate but relatable points.
Non sequesters really tend too irritate the internet
See what i did they’re
The way I've understood it is as the function is. It's both the dot and a comma so it's in between the 2. As you demonstrated, you can join 2 things together that don't qualify as separate sentences nor a list of things which you would use a comma for.
I'm a beginner weight lifter. I'm 38, 160lbs at 5'11. Quite lean. I could probably ohp 110-120lbs. On the other hand, I just dead lifted 190lbs x8 today. Which I'm proud of.
That's about what I do for 5-6reps, OHP is definitely a bit harder to start working on.
You're not a beginner anymore if you can deadlift more than your bodyweight. ;)
Uh, I think you could easily find random people off the street with a deadlift over bodyweight. Certainly, I think the majority of able bodied males within like a month or two of training could manage it.
Everyone is different with their genetics. For me I would argue an OHP of 120lb for a few reps is harder than a 190lb for many reps deadlift. For me after about 2 years of training, 5’11 about 160 also I could OHP around 50-55kg for a few, but my deadlift was at 190KG for singles. I found over 50kg OHP is incredibly slow to increase whereas if you add weight every week to your deadlift it goes up for a very surprising amount of time before you slow down progress
@@youknowwho9247most untrained people can deadlift over their bodyweight. I’d say 2x bodyweight is when ur out of the beginner phase
Working to 300# at 215 bodyweight. Much help from Mitch to get to this point
insanity bro
That is insane and amazing lol keep it up!
Mirin
Try braking the overhead press into a few movements the seated press the pin press the push press and work on your hamstrings lower back and glutes
That's nuts 🫡
Semicolons are a useful way to combine two clauses, which could stand on their own as two separate sentences separated by a period/full stop, but which are kept together in a single sentence because they are conceptually linked. In the past twenty years or so, it has become common practice to string conceptually related clauses together separated only by a comma. People seem to manage to understand what is being said, so maybe it's not such a big deal, but the semicolon does have some usefulness in signalling that the separation is more than just, say, items in a list, or a set of alternatives; but is, rather, a whole new thought which relates to that which has gone immediately before. Such as, "The man hurried to the pharmacy; his child urgently needed medicine."
P..S..Just because you like weight training doesn't mean you can't understand grammar.
I just hit a 180 pound overhead press today (at 205 bodyweight)…it’s a PR for me but my goal is to hit 200 plus pounds sometime next year. 🏋️♀️
Congrats brother. I recently hit a 185lbs strict press as well which was a lifetime goal for me. Now to start working towards 225. LETS GET IT.
@ thanks! Yup…once I hit 200 then 225 will be the next goal! Not bad for a 40 year old like me 🤣🏋️♀️.
@ 185 is no joke, well done!!! 💪💪💪
I have done a strict press with about 160. 185 bw. (converted from kg and slightly rounded).
@@lars-erikstrid2278 that’s awesome! Mine wasn’t strict….as I used leg drive.
I've always operated off of the following for how much the average man should be able to lift (BW = Bodyweight):
OHP: 0.5 x BW
Bench: 0.75 x BW
Squat: 1 x BW
Deadlift: 1.25 x BW
For a 200lb man, that would be:
OHP: 100lbs
Bench: 150lbs
Squat: 200lbs
Deadlift: 250lbs
I think those are pretty reasonable for the average man with my definition of "average man" being someone who is under the age of 65ish with no serious health conditions and goes to the gym 2-3 times per week, 30-45 minute sessions, does some cardio, and is just trying to be a bit stronger, a bit more muscular, a bit healthier, and look a bit better naked.
i hit these #’s in under a year of lifting, with no prior training or sports history… those #’s are extremely low
@@skinnerstrength5646I did 75% on overheadpress and 150% on bench press and 180% on squat
and 170% on deadlift after a year. Im 15 years old.
I agree exactly with your numbers, but I think most men only need to lift 2x week for 6-12 months to hit those and after then extremely little to maintain them.
My best is barbell strict OHP 1x bodyweight, Bench 1.8, Squat 2.8 for 5 reps. So far. I do spend a lot of time at the gym though.
Any man that works up to a strict Oh press of 135x8-12 is doing pretty good imo
Yeah that's exactly the numbers I was going to throw up
@@aesop2733 depends on your body weight. I weight 66 Kg and STRICT pressing 60 Kg for 1-2 rep which is 90 % of my body weight
I guess overhead pressing 225 lbs isn't so good?
@@Menaceblue3 Anecdotally, 225 OHP is probably achieved by the top 0.5% of gym goers and 0.02% of the population as a whole.
Right about where I'm at currently. Behind neck as well as front.
Honestly I've had to work pretty hard for a 75% bodyweight press.
It's obvious how much effort you put in!
I'd guess the average man would be topped out at 40kg
Been to a lot of gyms, casual lifters (average people). 40kg strict seems to be the standard, some slightly more.
In a commerical gym, people side eye anything over 60kg. Powerlifting gyms a different beast.
@@dtex_zeroThe average lifter isn’t the average person tho, the average person doesn’t lift
I'd say that's on the high side for non-gym goers. For manufacturing engineering, we had a book of tables to determine reasonable expectations for lifting objects. Only the strongest 10% of men can be expected to lift 40kg "a few times per day".
For a gym-goer, definitely possible.
The average instagram lifter can overhead press 375 😂😂
I weigh 205 and can do 152 average,??🤔
Me: 36, 240lbs - best push press = 260lbs x 2, best strict press = 225lbs x 4
Been strength training for 3 years but lifted weights on and off since I was 12, so major asterisk. Goal is 275lbs push press for reps before I start competing in strongman.
You?
Just getting back into standing OHP since my injury. Not where I was yet, but 5x180lbs made me happy!
For perspective, I can press 165 lbs at 205 lb body weight. Working up to 185 currently. I can bench press 185 for 8 reps and 225 for three reps.
So, you strict press 80 % of your body weight. I'm 145 and press 132 which is 90 %. We seem to have a similar level of OHP strengh considering the difference is normal dur to you being heavier
Damn I am 175lb and strict press 145lb. My bench is 275lb.
I gotta work on that shoulder strength
Just use your knees like him and you’ll double it tomorrow. Jk no knees he did strongman style I guess.
Amazes me how many folk don't understand what an "average" person is...
If only 5% of population of the world can do 2xbw deadlift, 1.5xbw squat and 1xbw bench.
I think it would be good to ask folk outside the gym what they feel average should be able to do and compare to the skewed gym answers
That’s correct but he’s asking “should”. The average population is crazy weak and ought to be much stronger just for health reasons. Any man with healthy ROM can OHP 50% bw with 6 months training. I could the first time I did it in HS and I’m not genetically gifted just a regular good athlete who did manual labor as a kid.
@@docd2295 good point, I was thinking "could" more than "should".
Yep I agree with 50% bodyweight is a good "should" figure. It's one of my weakest lifts but I know I'm above the 50% mark
@ it’s always been one of my weaker too naturally, which is why I used to train it heavier. Interesting enough the jerk was one of my stronger lifts, which shows how much the legs make that lift.
Thanks for the careful reading of my reply. Good luck to you in your lifting!
Most of the people are pretty weak on strict ohp,because they are untrained. I can standing strict ohp 60 kg for 4-5 reps on a relatively bad day at 83-84 kg bodyweight. I started doing deadlifts recently, so a few weeks ago I switched to seated AD press. I did the AD press on monday and failed to lockout the fifth rep with 70 kg.
My best seated ohp was 80kg for 12 reps at the bw of 93 kg 10 years ago.To be honest I was pretty surprised with that,because I thought I can't even move it and my buddy who was almost twice my size told me to try it, I managed to beat him by 2 reps.
Agree
I'm 52, 265lbs bodyweight... two years back from a multiyear break. My current strict press is 135lbs
Loved the video format with the gym q&a! Thanks Mitch
I am 39, body weight 90kgs, best strict press 87,5kg (193lbs). Done body weight in the past when weighing 80 and 85kgs. Going for 90kgs (198lbs) in a few weeks. Lifetime goal of 100kg (220,4 lbs).
Such a vibe, love the energy in this vid!
Ashley is on youtube now
10:20 everytime I unrack the weight to OHP in like "no way", but once you get some momentum the weight moves easier than expected
My girlfriend worked for Fed Ex a squirrel(helper in the delivery truck) and she said a job requirement was to be able to overhead lift 75 lbs. She was really frustrated she could only get up to 70. She got mad at me when Insaid I could do 200. I tried to explain she wasn’t using her legs enough and to watch some of Mitch’s clean and jerk videos.
Yet when I tell my girlfriend she has to clean and jerk I’m some sort of chauvinist…
Lol 😂
You sure it wasn’t to simply lift 75lb? I worked at ups for a while. They liked it if you could lift 75, but anything over 75 was supposed to be team lift to reduce injury
Imo a 200 pound plus over head press is not going to be very common.
For me, nothing 😂 Had a motorcycle crash which resulted in my deltoid not working on my right side, had radial to auxiliary nerve transfer surgery to no avail unfortunately. Can't raise my arm above my head without assisting it with my left. Apparently I'm lucky because I have full use of my forearm and usually this injury f**ks your whole arm.
I believe in you. You can do it
Right there with you man (kinda). Had a neck tumour removed at 16 that took my spinal accessory nerve with it so I now have one functioning middle and upper trap. Couldn’t elevate at all for 18 months, thanks to lev scap compensating I can OHP again now but that’s 12 years down the line. It’s a long, long process.
I really have mixed feelings about OHP. I did lots of em throughout my life. At 63 yrs old I still lift lots but the vertebrae and discs in my back are definitely worn and hurting.
I do overhead press 3x8 with dumbbless with neutral grip one dumbblless is 30kg but i have to say i i have been training long even do that and im 100kg so im not avarage man.
The way you pick up 100 kg and lift it over your head like it's nothing is actually insane. And I'm a bloody 6'1 200 lbs gym rat. Insane. You're the reason I've sort of stopped training purely for hypertrophy and started going more into strength. Videos like this make it obvious that it's not the same ... And that I've got a long way to go. 😅
what is your max overhead? I'd imagine at 200lbs and a gym rat should be pretty high.
@@tommulford7138 Not necessarily. My friend is 6'1 / 210llbs and his OHP is 150 pounds. It's a very technical lift requiring both strength and training in the said lift.
I'm 5'9 / 183lbs and my max OHP is 200lbs (slow as fuck grind rep + very arched back but no leg push). Bench is 340 for reference.
I've gone off ratios of 0.75 (dumbbell overhead press) to 1 (one armed bar to chest pull downs on lat machine) to 3 (bench) to 4 (squat) to 5 (dead lifts) which works for me now due to shoulder surgery in my 20s some 30 years ago. That would work out to half my bench with dumbbells, which was about 2/3rds my bench when using a bar and more questionable form.
It does feel one should be able to shoulder press their ideal body weight (whatever your desired body fat would put you at) which would be 1.5x ideal BW for bench, 2x for squat, and 2.5x for dead lifts. People doing competitive lifting or training like it would probably find this low set of numbers adorable.
I can do 55 kg for 3 reps, standing but starting the weight on front shoulders.
Training OHP twice a week for 5x5 reps near max.
@1:55 that's a fine quality pun, sir! Damn fine!
i can do 80kgx4 103kg (26%bf) 184cm 36yo 4 years training
Love that mural of Terry Fox on the wall. He is so inspiring.
I think if you can get to a plate on each side as an average guy that’s a pretty solid achievement. Someone who’s been lifting a while 185, advanced 225, anything beyond strict pressing is outstanding. I’ve hit 250 on a strict but typically only train between 135-185 and shoot for 10-15 reps
I do seared oh press rn to limit cns fatigue but I have 225 x 3-1/2 and 135x23
I weigh 240 ish rn
All are in freedom units 😂
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I weigh about 76 kg. I don't really do any other shoulder exercises other than standing shoulder strict press. I don't really feel the push press. I do some shoulder health mobility and rear delt assistance work. I'm aiming 3x5 for 80kg. At the moment its comfortable 3x3. Dream goal would be 100kg for a double. Strict form. One day!. Great video. I'll use the advice on programming to get to my lifetime goal.
1. Great music! Really cool.
2. This music is so Mitch!😂❤
There is no standard anyone should be able to do. The only number that matter for your lift should be, is it better or easier then it was last time you tried?
Progressing from a 5kg to a 6kg OHP is impressive, because the only thing that matters is you are trying to improvs.
You have a great personality, Mitchell.
I'm limited in overhead strength because my basement ceiling is too low for me to do standing overhead lifts
thats good, sit down and do it properly without legdrive
My best strict overhead press was 260lbs. Be curious to see how much I would be able to do on log, less I am assuming.
Less when you start, but over time potentially more because of the reduced ROM. My strict log is about 5kg more than my barbell press.
I was always taught to use semicolons as if they were a conjunction in a compound sentence.
e.g. "I went to the pet store, and I bought pet food."
becomes
"I went to the pet store; I bought pet food."
Sometimes you want to create a rhythm or do something stylistic while conveying related ideas and breaking it up with a comma and conjunction feels like more of a separation than you want.
for some reason my ohp is disproportionately good. 120 kg strict, but the most i have ever benched is just 160 kg. weird
How much do you weigh?
I’ve always wondered about form on an overhead press. I very strictly do 115lbs for 3-6 reps with absolutely no lower body movement apart from keeping tight. That’s slow eccentric and not jerking the wait up, but going up as fast as possible with control
Forgot to mention that I’m 200-205lbs at the moment and have been overhead pressing 1 time a week for less than 2 months I believe just to kinda try it out and I like it
my first time i was able to get up 125 strict. Im 210lbs. I moved recently and dont have access to a gym. Ive been training overhead press for a couple months now and all i have is a log and 4 25 lb plates in my backyard.
I weigh around ~178 lb and I just hit a PR of 170 lb on OHP. Was stuck at 160 lb for literally years lol.
The *average* TRAINED male should be able to hit ~75% of their bodyweight. (So a 180 lb man should be able to press 135). I really do think that is realistic.
Above average trained males should strive for a 1x bodyweight OHP, which is what my personal goal is. I hope to hit it someday
1x bodyweight starts being very high if you're 200+ lbs. I think numbers irrespective of BW are a better goal to strive for.
Bodyweight strict, and push press atleast 50 over that.
I'm a 69kg (152 lbs) man and I have strict pressed 70kg (154lbs) and Push Pressed 90kg (199 lbs)
Mitch I'm really surprised the people at your gym aren't overhead pressing. Seeing that many people guess a weight is a real eye opener.
I think the reason why the average man doesn’t have a very big overhead press is because most men don’t train it or they don’t train it regularly and consistently.
I’m extremely average, however, about seven years ago, I started training overhead press three times a week, same reps and percentages as my squat.
My overhead press went from 155 for one rep to 225 for three reps.
3 months ago I'd never done an OHP in my life and my 1RM was 35kg at 83kg. Now it's 50kg; aiming for bodyweight and eventually 100kg.
My peak was 185lbs seated at 190lbs body weight, 5'11. but that was 2 years ago right before I tore a rotator cuff. I started working out again 4 months ago and right as I got some consistency I have a bike accident and tore the other shoulder, along with breaking some ribs and puncturing a lung... 2 months after that and now I am pressing about 65lbs max and its painful AF
I do my OHPs at home with my two 24kg KBs. Worked up to 3x10 from 3x6 over some months. It's a fun movement.
A semicolon has a function that is very different to that of a comma and it is useful, but of course it no longer serves its function reliably when most readers don't know what it is. I think it's fair to say that those people would happily read a piece of text with no punctuation at all, without caring. I am not saying they are wrong in choosing not to care, but communication is simplified and less effective as a consequence. Bear in mind that a lot of people think that reading anything longer than a few short, single clause sentences is out of the question.
Like many things in life, your point of view will depend on your position and experience. For example, you won't have to look far to find people who laugh at the idea that bodybuilding, weight lifting, power lifting and strongman are all very different things. I would consider them to be ignorant for having that opinion, but don't think it's very different to somebody thinking that the differences between punctuation marks don't matter very much.
A lot of journalists, in 2024, have a poor understanding of punctuation and sentence construction. Many of them don't understand the function of a comma or a coordinating conjunction. They also tend to shy away from compound sentences, and it's difficult to tell if that's their choice or something they think is necessary for the modern reader.
I am not telling anybody how to write or what to read, but the average person's vocabulary and ability to communicate with words are far poorer than a few decades ago. Variation and diversity in speech is almost a thing of the past. You can see this demonstrated by the amount of people who will use "insane" and nothing else as an adjective when describing something they think is impressive, strange, stupid, dangerous, foolish, difficult or very good. The result of that is you don't really know what they mean by "insane" without knowing the situation they are in and what they are doing at the time.
I think 90 untrained and 135 lb with some gym base, why are people so unrealistic?
Totally weight dependant.
I was untrained and could only do the bar when i started at like 20. Although i was quite a bit underweight, i had the physique of an ethopian distance runner
Dude most people will probably never touch a plate on OHP unless they dedicate a significant portion of their training to getting stronger in the OHP which makes them stop being an average person. He doesn’t mean “average genetics but lifts for strength” he means “average person who goes to the gym and wants to be generally fit”
@@maxpflughoeft6806 Would you consider a 2 plate bench to be just as difficult? Because if both are trained equally serious, that's about a 1 plate OHP.
Average Man - 50% body weight
Average Lifter - 75% body weight
Advanced Lifter - 90-100% Bodyweight
just my 2 cents
I am about 190lbs, 6'1" and got a huge surgery scar over my sternum
I OHP just 100lbs even after training for years because my whole pushing musculature is underdeveloped due to it beeing cut appart
Damn man that's crazy, I imagine that must make benching terrible
I did 3x 105kgs push press from the rack. Best strict press from the rack is 92.5kgs. Best log(push press) is 100kgs.
Not bad
I train the ohp movement; I have for the last 2 year-ish. I’ve pushed press 225lbs and helded it for 10 seconds. Strict press was 215lbs or 220lbs it’s been since September that I’ve been in the gym because it closed and now I do purely calisthenics. In my opinion the average non-gym goer should 90lbs and an average gym goer 135lbs.
I much prefer the overhead standing dbell press. Doing it with a barbell is a lot more a technical lift than most people realize and also harder on the shoulder joint.
I am terrified of doing OHP because the last time I did it, 4 months ago, I got excruciating pain in my upper back that lasted for 10 days. I literally could not function for a week. Obviouisly, something was off about my form; somehow I was putting tremendous pressure on my neck, but I have no idea how I'd adjust it so that doesn't happen again.
My best was 125 Kg at 112 kg BW, no PED. For a natty lifter - strict BW military press is a very good result.
I go to the gym for 5 months, doing Greg Nuckol's beginner program since 8 weeks, doing Barbell overhead presses at 40 Kilograms for 7 reps. (Obese 116 kg bodyweight). I think 1 RM I could do 55 maybe.
Im 21 and I OHP strict 110 kgs and i have done 130kgs with momentum(legdrive) at 104 bw having trained almost 1 1/2 years. In comparison i only bench 150 and my pr is 160 which is really close to my ohp which always has been strong however i never realized that it was this strong
So cool that Mitchel is not out of touch with reality. He’s the WSM after a few years of training and is impressed with average guys OHP 95. Definitely a difficult lift especially with no leg drive and bar touching chest (full range of motion) makes is so much harder.
As a 51 year old I consider myself to be strong but not massively so and I can do about:-
OHP - 0.75 Bodyweight
Bench - Bodyweight
Deadlift - 2.25X bodyweight
Squat - 1.25 X bodyweight
So average man slightly less than that.
I'm 52 years old and have been strongman training for 2 and a bit years, I'm pressing 175lbs max with log. However I believe the average man should press 40% of their bodyweight. Oh ya. .never used a semicolon in my life! Keep up the great content, blessings to you and your family😊
For an average man, half their bodyweight for an overhead press sounds about right. My best strict press is 90 kg, my PB push press - 120 kg (bodyweight 110 kg). By the way, semicolon is not just in English language; I use it sometimes and find its existence appropriate.
“Should” with training is probably around body weight for the average weight man, then apply something like the Wilkes formula for heavier or lighter men.
50% of body weight is probably a good measure for the average guy though.
anyone saying a number and not a % of bodyweight is wrong, there's a big difference between what a 120kg man should be able to OHP versus a 60kg man. If the first one can't OHP 30kg, he's gonna have a problem doing any activity requiring his arms to be up (just based on their weight). If the second one can't it's not the same level of bad
i do seated overheadpress of 90kg (sitting upright and no back support keeping everything tight. im 34
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Been focused on OHP for my training. My favourite lift. For me personally. I want to be able to Press my bodyweight. I weigh 67-69 KG, the most I have gotten so far is 65KG x3 strict reps.
It is a hard lift. I genuinely don't know what is considered reasonable for an average man. What I do know is that it took me years to break through a plateau. One thing that finally helped me break 60x5 was incorporating push pressing after doing as many strict reps as I could, it really helped me grind out as much stimulus as possible.
I’ve a Standing barbell press of 100kg for a double and 50kg seated dumbbell press for 5 reps 49 yrs old 5ft 6, 90kg bodyweight 👍
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That axel press having 2x 45lbs being only 125lbs total means that axel is lighter than the normal barbell?? I thought it weighed more. I've never used an axel so I don't know.
The average man in the general population I'd expect a little less than half bodyweight; the average man who trains I'd expect to lift a little more than bodyweight. The average cat likes fish. (to combine the two questions: the one about overhead press, and the one about semicolons -- with a comma, colon, and dash thrown in)
I doubt if you asked every guy in a gym who works out regularly what their strict ohp is they would be below bodyweight. Bodyweight is extremely hard and I’d guess that maybe 20% of people who train regularly could do it. Maybe a good metric would be to say it as a percentage of another lift like bench or deadlift. Someone who is super strong and trains regularly would have a higher bench than someone who trains regularly but isn’t yoked. Also this would help with people who don’t train regularly since OHP as a percentage of their bench would probably still work. What percent of bench would you expect?
The average guy who trains wouldn't even be close to a BW OHP.
OHP is something where even adding 10lbs takes a great deal of effort, time and consistency
@@Pepesilvia267 Oops, my typo - I meant a little over half for trained! Which proves the point that rather than focus on getting semi colons right it helps to concentrate on the actual words!
A little above BW OHP at 200+ lbs is a huge achievement compared to someone that weighs 160lbs.
for a lighter lifter around 180lbs less is around 0.75x of their bodyweight and for heavier 180lbs plus is around 50-60%, I myself weighs around 130 lbs and can press 110lbs for a triple on a good day and a single on a bad day
At 70kg bodyweight i can do a 60kg ohp max
Not a beginner but wasnt strict about shoulder work until recently
I get 305 lbs from a rack position, not the floor, for 3-5 singles at age 47. I get dizzy every time ive tried 315...
3-4 reps at 155, 64 year old, 200 lbs.
Not wise to go for 1 rep max anymore. Usually 8-12. I always liked the military press.
Bodyweight at 265 lbs. Best OHP (semi-strict? Knee wobbles lol) was 295. Best log press was also the same because I can't clean a log to save my life.
All of my overhead press is done in the seated position. I just did 315 x 6 yesterday @ 320 lb bodyweight. Come to Michigan so we can train together!
I'm definitely an amateur at this stuff, but it feels like half your body weight is a reasonable amount for an average person.
One thing I found on Google states: "the average man starts off overhead pressing somewhere between 55-85 pounds for a few repetitions. After a year of training, only 1 in 10 men can press 135 pounds overhead." I think the average weight for a man is 200lbs, or thereabouts? So that would make that a little below half weight.
From my own stand point, I'm 95kg/209lbs and am aiming to hit 60kg/132lbs for the first time next week. That's after a little over 7 months training, so I'm happy with that.
Recently turned 18 (11/18/06) and can overhead shoulder press 120 pounds for 2 reps at 148 lbs and run cross country and track
I remember the 1st time I ever strict OHP'ed back in 2012 I got 115 lbs for a 1RM and it was my 1st week in the gym. I weighed 230 lbs at the time so 50% bodyweight checks out.
Last I tested my strict OHP (august 2024) I got 79 kg, at a bodyweight of 97 kg. That's from training at home with just sandbags, calisthenics (sometimes weighted) and a kettlebell. Sandbag OHP is freaking hard
His ohp weight in the thumbnail is like my current zercher squat max if even that
Currently I can do my bodyweight (155) on a 1RM push press/jerk. Would be very happy if bodyweight was my working weight on a 5x5 when all is said and done.
Half bodyweight is the best answer hands down
I use 2 45lb dumb bells for overhead press. I want to strengthen my core and develop my technique before going too heavy. I weight 170lbs, so I guess I fall into the +/-50% bodyweight category.
I believe i am the average man. Hight 5'9, 165lbs, and 53, average build. I have never stepped foot in a gym, but working on a farm, aquire fitness in another form. My answer would be half the body weight. I can overhead pretty easy 2 bags of feed, (80lbs) Another example, a bale of hay, average weight 80lbs.
Average guy from the street with a little techique teaching around 50% of bodyweight and then adding 5-10kg (10-20lbs) for every year they've been going to the gym (might be more at the start but will slow down) until they're at 150% bodyweight. This would ofcourse require for them to actually train ohp regularly. This math woul put me right now a litlle bit ahead of the schedule weighing 85kg (185lbs) and my best pressing so far is a 70kg (155lbs) log and I've been going to the gym for almost 2 years