KTM 790 Adventure R | Early Ownership Complaints
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The KTM 790 Adventure R is a wonderful machine bringing new capability to adventure bikes. However it is not without its little issues. These are some of my initial complaints.
I forgot to mention in the video, also:
-stock skidplate should be stronger/thicker
-mirrors are kind of ugly and big
-shock is too close to the catalytic converter
I have upcoming videos on how to address a lot of these issues.
Let me know what your complaints are with the 790 and what KTM could have done better.
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Workaround: put Brembo sticker on calipers and master cylinder ;-) Brakes work great, that's my impression.
just wait for 6 months and you can pick up a used one for $10,000 with all those parts and only 400 miles....ha ha.
Ian
I went thru the same issues as you did on my 2019 790 R.
Wind. Puig touring screen solved it. But I still use the short screen for short trips , commutes and off road
Shock. Completely failed after about 1500 miles. I asked KTM South Africa for for an upgrade to Xplor Pro and paid the difference. So the failure was an opportunity to upgrade for the cost of the difference rather than a whole new shock.
Cluth. I may get the camel lever.
Fuel gauge. I the consumption figure on the computer and do quick mental maths to check when to refill. Mostly I fill up after 200 Miles/ 320 kms.
I have ordered a seat concept seat for touring. I like the standard seat for everyday use and off road. But after 2 or 3 hours on a highway you'll think of better options.
Looking forward to more videos about the 790.
2200km is quick.. maybe the exhaust heat is causing the rear shock to fail like the Africa twin.
@@0xsergy I thought so at first. But it seems it was a common problem on some R's and always happened around 2000kms.
thank you for sharing!
What would you like to see different on the KTM 790 Adventure? Let me know below.
How many kms on it? My suspension(on a different bike) took a few thousand kms to loosen up. Also could be the suspension is set up for slightly loaded journeys. My buddies wr250f is rough empty but with camping gear weight the suspension is perfect.
I can't get over the difference with the Camel clutch piece. A friend just put it on and it's literally 1 finger clutch. Definitely piece #1 you should get.
His Outback Motortek engine guards are wicked, but I've seen videos on here of guys smoking the fuel tank guards into rocks without damage.
He has touratech mirrors that I really liked and we are all Doubletake fanboys so........
I'm not sure who makes it but he did have a tower brace out of aluminum, apparently the tower is very poorly connected and there is potential to have severe damage to the tower if left unbraced. He was saying the attachment setup is one of the worst he's seen for potential damage.
My questions for you @Big Rock Moto:
You just came from the AT/790R dilemma.
Are you happy you stuck with the 790 for the reasons you mention over the 2020 or has actually owning and seeing some flaws pushed you back towards the AT - even an older year.. Just a simple yes/no, just after your quick subjective opin. Every comment you made I completely agree with for both bikes.
Can you expand on the longer on road trips on the 790 compared to the AT. I've taken both bikes out now and the AT is definitely smoother/more refined on road engine wise, but is the engine on the 790 becoming an issue at all for you comfort wise on lengthier road trips? Typically I get the dumb response of if I want a nice on road bike buy a goldwing....... from your videos so far I know you get what I'm asking.
I cant pull the trigger on the 790 yet simply because of reliability fears which I will need to just accept and the potential for it to not be a good bike for a 300+ mile road section. Hoping your opinion will push things over the edge and I can get one in the garage.
thanks!!! great content btw.
@@c.a.l.e.b.s Tower brace is also made by Camel ADV, just like the 1 finger clutch. I pulled the trigger last year on a 790R. I am very disappointed , because I purchased the 790R in Colombia, South America. I was planning to ride all over the country, but Colombia is still locked down
@@SteveHofsaess Are you not able to access the bike and that is the disappointment? (totally understandable lol) or do you have a disappointment towards something with the bike?
Cheers
@@c.a.l.e.b.s I am only a rookie rider,, but I do enjoy the bike very much,, It is over a 100 pounds lighter than my 1200gs in the states. In my opionion,, most middle weight adventure bikes are good,, stick with the KTM 790R or Yamaha Tenere
Excellent, non-biased review--no bike is perfect just like no car is perfect, and you are doing no more than pointing out what your experiences have been with the bike, that's all, so no need to apologize because you are in no way a hater (you bought the bike after all!!), although I get why you do as there are so many trolls out there. I would think the vast majority of subscribers will appreciate you pointing out what your experiences are to help them better decide if they want to buy this bike. That's why this content is so valuable, as living with the bike day in and day out is a lot different than a short test ride--it is a tortured analogy but it is like going somewhere on vacation and loving it for a few days versus relocating to the same spot and actually living/working there. Good job and well presented!
thanks!
The quick shifter being an option is silly. My 2020 701 Enduro has a stock quick shifter. KTM should just include it.
yep
If the back end is loading up, open up your rebound, let the spring work quicker.
If you havnt already that is. :-)
If the compression dampening is wide open it will blow through the initial dampening and feel harsh.
step one set your sag
1. Brakes are brilliant, its just a name and would ramp the cost of the bike up. 2. The buffeting isn't great but it only get noticeable at 70 mph +. You get used to it and I can happily ride for an hour or so at 80 mph without feeling fatigued. 3. I think your shock is either set up wrong or failing. I can ride whoops and highly uneven off-road surfaces at 40 mph without any problems...yes I'm 15st, so no lightweight, but I'm a complete novice off-road and on standard suspension settings.
Your are right though, its not perfect...but it is an amazing bike that offers far more than most....SO much fun!
@@gbner9991 No excuses. Its a bike for people who actually go properly off road but want a road bike too. And why would I make excuses..I never designed it, I just know a decent bike. There's a reason proper skilled and experienced riders are buying this bike..Because its amazing!!
I’m really thinking of getting one since my 1200 GS is a bit too big for me when off roading
Great honest review thanks
The only thing on my end is with the Quickshifter, I think that should be standard. Pretty expensive for a software upgrade. I got a discount on mine but realized I was charged $30 for labor which doesn't sit right with me. It works great though, super smooth. Windshield and suspension on my end are great, no complaints but it depends on the type of riding you do and rider you are. Nothing is perfect for sure, but I love this bike so far. Looking forward to your videos! Would love to see some off-road and camping videos using your Tusk bags.
Thanks for your feedback.
This will help me out to choose my next off-road bigtrail. Keep up with your videos 💪🏻
For touring the givi airflow screen does the job for me (189cm). The biggest annoyance for me is the jerkiness of the engine at low speed/low rev, when driving to town or in heavy traffic.
The stock shock has too much "low speed" dumping, that why it feels harshy in initial stroke. Also on the dyno - shock has degressive curve.
First attempt - made it linear and much softer, still harshy, but much better. Second attempt coming soon.
And stock tire is not softest tire)
After 990 adv - 790 suspension is far from comfortable
That's high speed damping, not low speed. High speed is what affects the wheel hitting a bump, when it needs to move quickly to absorb it. Low speed damping is what affects handling on a smooth road, when weight transitions compress the springs.
for the fuel gauge I use the trip meter
You've mentioned that you had a V-Strom. How does the engine on the 790 compare to the V-Strom when it comes to vibrations?
Rear suspension- let it break in and set it softer for you?
Thanks for the vid! Great to have some of the issues I have also felt openly discussed. My rear shock has softened up nicely after 4000km. I do get quite a bit of noise from the clutch basket though when in neutral. When the clutch lever is pulled in the noise disappears, but with clutch lever is released and the bike is in neutral the clutch basket has a decent rattle/knock going on. Doesn't seem to impact on performance but wondering if you experience the same...Also there is some slow speed, low rpm, stuttering which I think may be due to fuelling from the research i've done...Cheers again!
I also have clutch noise and slow speed stuttering at times...
What strikes me as a negative is to add cruise control you have to replace the whole left control stack to add the button. Maybe dealers can order it from the factory that way but seems like dealer add on and pain in the ass to add. Should just come standard. That’s high spec suspension so have someone set the bike up for you because your weight is not outside it’s range. Yes we could do it ourselves but it’s just not worth the time if you have a pro nearby to do it
I just got the standard yesterday. Still getting used to the posture after 100 miles. Very different from my 636.
The wind screen has some odd effects with my helmet. It actually is nicer when I stand up. Thats my only complaint right now.
I have a 790 rally, with even stiffer suspension and I've gone up three spring weights. 790 adv r is for aggressive riding. maybe you should got a tenere 700 or africa twin. they have much softer suspension. thank goodness for ktm's aggressive suspension. I have nearly 6k miles on the rally and I love it. she rips. try hand guard mirrors, like rottweiler crg kit, to eliminate
educe buffeting. get two piece adv s seats and send to Sargent cycle to rebuild. clutch, fuel gauge are not issues for me. we get to feel grateful for what we have or focus and complain about what we lack. the bike is badass.
That's what I found with the suspension; for me the fork works great everywhere and the rear shock comes into it's own with harder off roading.
The more I ride it, the more I get used to it.
Hasn’t the 790 had rear shock failure issues? Not sure what the symptoms would be. Maybe yours is faulty and could be replaced under warranty.
I also found the suspension harsh as standard and didn't feel as plush as I'd expect from long travel quality units especially the rear. Back off on the high speed compression damping a bit. That fixes it. (I weigh 92 kg). I couldn't care less who's name is on the brakes as long as they work well and those KTM ones work really well. I hate the aftermarket feel of the heated grips. The extra button to operate them is ridiculous and ugly. Integrating its operation into the info controls and dash would of been so much better. Why does an off-road biased adv bike have such a small sidestand footprint? I suffer a lot of buffeting over 65 mph and am still looking to get a small deflector but finding one the right size and tint is proving tricky. Even with the bikes issues it's a fantastic machine and best in class. Now if the T7 had better suspension.............
I did the same with the HSC on the shock - sure helps. I went with the Koso heated grips, the button is integrated into the grip. Check them out. Added a sidestand foot, yep. For the windshield, try a spoiler clip on thing.
Good review. I think the suspension problem is due to the attempt at creating a rig that will go anywhere comfortably. There will always be trade offs. It seems like KTM did a pretty good job right out of the box. I've heard of cooling problems. Evidently you haven't had any. I miss riding so bad, but I escaped death so many times, because of bad drivers, and I've seen too many get maimed or killed. Thanks for letting me vicariously live through your adventures!
your're right about the suspension
Good information, please can you guys do review on any of the Christini bikes ? Thank you
My rear shock was also quite harsh during the break-in period, it got much better at about 1000-1200km.
thanks
Another well presented video Ian. The Million dollar or ten thousand dollar question - are you content with your current Moto garage of small 500 EXC, medium 790R and large GS?
Yes, very much so. Now... if I had unlimited funds, I would add a sportbike, a cafe racer, a trials bike.... :)
Definitely interested in a long term test. Buy one!
solid points!!!
Are there really so much bikes that come with Quickshifter as standard component?
WHERE DID YOU GET YOUR SHORTY CLUTCH & FRONT BRAKE LEVERS?!? PLEASE TELL ME!!!
I have heard of some water retention problems with the display, codgerbiker has had constant problems with his. Re the quick shifter, how does it go on rougher terrain if you just accidentally touch the lever? Every dirt bike I have owned has required a screen or a modified screen to cut down the wind effects. I have had some success in using the “Dakar” screen from Parabrisas screens in Argentina on a BMW Xchallenge, DR650 and KTM500EXCF. Re the 48 Explor forks, I had a race tech kit fitted to my EXCF which dramatically improved them and converted them to the conventional adjustment at the top and bottom rather than the silly compression on one leg and rebound on the other.
No water vapor in my display. I haven't had an issue bumping the QS offroad, you can also turn it off in the display if so desired.
Could you please share me the Koso Heated grips that you use in your bike?. thanks
With the shield in the low position the air flow is pretty smooth for me, in the high position - lousy. Brakes? Ha ha, I ride a DR650 too, the KTM brakes are like Brembo M50's to me! The fuel gauge does not bother me at all, I have to use the trip odo on my DR to figure out about how much fuel is left. The clutch...yea, I put the Camel part on it...perfect now. I too find the rear shock a bit harsh; I weigh 170 and find the spring rate a bit too firm and the high speed damping too firm, even in their lightest settings, whereas the rebound and low speed damping are fine. I have a Cogent on my DR that is superb. It seems Cody and Chris like a firm shock for really aggressive riding where it does work well as is. I find the fork perfect/excellent. Nit picks for me: I would like the pegs lower a 1/2 in. and forward 1 in., the grips are too small dia. and hard (I like Progrip 714's), the low speed fueling is jerky due to EPA reqs. which I'm seeking a solution for. The biggest complaint I've had was that my bike spent 7 weeks at the dealer waiting to get faulty brake switches changed out. It's sorted now. Overall the bike is really awesome though and a keeper for a long time!
Your observations are spot on! Agree with all of that.
I am 6' 4" and initially thought the wind shield should be in the highest position given my length, but you are absolutely right it feels much more comfortable in the low position. Even high position + aftermarket wind deflector clip did not stop the wind buffeting. In the low position, the air flow is significant, but it is directed at my body rather than my helmet.
curious to what helmet brand and model you were wearing when you experienced the wind buffeting on this bike as I am having the same issue.
Great objective review - I really appreciate it.. Question - being a taller rider (6'6"), do you think I'd fit better on a 790 or 1290 SAR? Thx - JB
Probably the 1290 but go sit on them both. You can also raise the bars, raise the seat, lower the pegs to get more room, on either
Thanks for your videos on the 790r. Keep them coming. You should do a colab with someone that owns a Tenere 700. Sven?
Have one planned...
My clutch is a two finger clutch.....fuel gauge, no problem, starts registering at half a tank. Whats the big deal? Suspension...mine took 2500 miles to break in. I just set it softer till it broke in. I have two other KTM's and they were the same way. I love this bike!
Assume rear shock preload is correct? On the 690 softened high speed compression and added some rebound damping which made a difference.
Correct on softening up the high speed compression but if his back wheel is not making contact with the road, he should try and quicken up the rebound to it reacts quicker. 1 turn at a time.
Moto Suzuki - You are correct - misspoke on rebound
I had a standard 790 adv for 3 weeks until a truck hit me and totaled it. I agree about the harshness of the suspension. It was fine over big bumps but terrible over cracks in pavement, washboard type ripples. I think this would be attributed to the high speed damping. The shock on my 2019 690 enduro r is the same.
Second on the harsh rear suspension over small bumps (thought it might be just me). A note of warning - the biggest dealer in Idaho selling these does absolutely none of the items on the checklist so if you buy from them be prepared to do it yourself. My chain had three inches of play and was banging against the guard. At least check what keeps people alive. They also told me KTM told them NOT to install the quick shifter I ordered due to some issue. Huh? What is that? Bought out of state because none available locally.
Great comments , I agree. Question: if you got a KTM 390 Adv would you put wire wheels on it? I’m 6’3” 235 lbs and like to wheelie, I think someone (Dirt Rider?) broke 2 wheels during their test. I really would like the 790 for my size but want a lighter bike for camping that I can throw on the back of my Tacoma, plus it’s half the price. Thanks!
Maybe just get a DRZ? 390 may not hold up to severe off roading... but I don't know yet
I like your videos. It seems to me that your audience is geared towards the new Rider / Adventure Rider. That's great, thank you for helping them out. I think the problem is with a lot of your older more experienced viewers is that you do not keep a motorcycle for a decent amount of time to provide a valuable review to an opinionated, knowledgeable experienced rider. If your target is the new Rider than everything is perfect. Just expect some feedback from us old crusty guys that have been around the block and know thing or two. Keep it up and good luck.
thanks for the feedback. life is short so I change bikes a lot. also, if I have one bike for 10 years, I can only make a few videos on it, and the audience is small. so lots to consider.
@@BigRockMoto wishing you good luck on your future endeavors.
Hey I am looking to get 2021 Ktm 890 Adventure. Can you tell me your experience mainly on the highway speeds for long trips. How is the wind and is there a wobble in the handle bars at higher speeds ?What I am looking at is to do 200 to 300 km on the highways and then may be 50km minor offroad stuff or getting to camp sites nothing too serious. Would KTM 890 Adventure be a good long distance motorcycle in your opinion ?
I think it would. No wobble in the steering. Wind turbulence is a problem, yes, for many riders, you can fix by trying different windshields
The part when you talk about the clutch i think is adressed in the new 890 model.
My local ktm dealer has a 2020 790R for sale for around $13,000 out the door. It has cone valve $7000 suspension upgrade with only 1700 miles. Is it worth buying over the new 890R?
To solve the wind buffeting, change the mirrors. I did that recently on the 1190R. Buffeting is gone! Money well spent.
thank you!
I don’t agree, I have the folded mirrors but makes no difference to stop the buffeting. However the mirrors are awesome to quickly fold them in when riding off-road.
I tried taking the mirrors completely off on my 1190r and it made no difference. Depends on your height I guess, i'm 5'10.
I see people ignored your statement that this video is specifically made to discuss what "you don't like", and you're not trying to whine and complain.. Just what you think you wanted to address or think maybe what you would have liked to have had. But nope, people still need to get in here talking about your dislikes and how you are complaining 😂😂. Great video and nice job letting people know what's up. 👍
thanks
it is the engine heat so annoying like some people say?!
Thanks!✌️
The factory heated grips do not have a great reputation. Go with the Oxfords.
They're brilliant. So much so their to hot on full in the winter for me. Uk based.
Amen. I put Ktm heated grips on mine and at max they similar to Oxford’s at 40% setting. Factory heated grips are really a disappointment.
bought Koso Apollo, integrated switch
Wow, I bought a dr650 for half the price and I could'nt be happier
Ya wind buffeting is kinda like deal breaker, then you jump on a 600 rocket with small screen and get none
Hi, really like your review videos, they are brutally honest which is what we want to hear to make informed decisions. I am a chronic BMW guy but I am looking for a lighter bike option as I have found the 1200 GS can be difficult due to its weight. Of course ‘taste is in the eye of the Beer holder’ right lol, but I struggle with the fact that ‘styling and colouring’ can be so overdone and ‘glaringly dazzling’ on some brands of bike. I’de be a liar if I said styling does’nt matter but it gets to the point where a ‘mechanically superior’ bike brand gets ‘bumped’ because it is just plain ‘tacky’ ! I thought KTM was ‘on point’ with its original 640 and 990, what happened ? Cheers.
Why is the fuel gauge a concern? Seen this comment from a couple of people.
I personally find it better the way it is (displaying after half empty only).
I don‘t need to know if I am at 70 or 80% but like the idea to have clear information if at 10/20/30/40 or 50%.
I have ridden my 790 R for 7500 ks, at speeds up to 150 kph. Zero buffeting but I installed a Rade Garage windscreen and totally eliminated the buffeting and great protection. I also ride with a MX style helmet with a sun beak and it no issue after installing the screen. Love the bike and I have owned a dozen various bike from MX up to a GSAs and this bike is not perfect but it ticks all the boxes. Cheesy little things like the heated grip switch, but duh it`s less than half the price of my GSA and I have way more fun with it. Just don`t ride multi day rides over 8 hours solid riding or I wish I was on my GSA>
Hey bud I know this sounds crazy but I weigh 132 lbs and I literally had to turn both shock all the way down in preload high speed compression and dampening now this thing glides over the whoops stops faster goes over roots nicely and doesn't buck...my advice turn all of it all the way down...I have +2 on rebound on the front only because i want it to return a little faster after roots for steering purposes
thanks, what is your rear shock rebound set to?
@@BigRockMoto I set it all the way down ...take away a lot of the bucking at the top of the whoops and ruts.. . The only con is i have found that it can bottom out a bit more due to high speed compression and preload being all the way down but i ride this thing like a dirtbike so i doubt many people would run into it.
Doesn't sound crazy at all, I do feel it's wrong to criticize a bike's suspension before you've tried tweaking the built-in adjusters!
I thought the quick shifter came as standard for the Adv R? You had to pay extra to have it activated??
yes
Just get a Beemer, they have years of experience and the bikes are on point for distance, plus the seat wont draw your piles down every time you get it out the shed. I walk like a cowboy when I get off mine, it's like a bunch of grapes hanging, its a frickin war zone down there.
Not perfect? Blasphemy!
Waiting for the buffeting fix 😉
The buffeting could be your helmet design.
Please shoot in 4k
Oh my! You have gone over to the dark side! Haha! Quickshifter? Whatever next? What would Robert Pirsig have had to say I wonder? Seriously, I think a section of consumers are dragging motorcycling off in the wrong direction for the others, and I know which the marketing departments prefer!
I'm going through your videos now, and I have to say how much I appreciate your honest and detailed reviews. I'm glad you go through so many bikes because it's really helpful to the rest of us. xD Anyway, I I have a 2019 KTM Enduro R and it was the worst purchase I ever made in motorcycling. From the minute I rode it off the lot to my 800 mile adventure I had problems. Mostly the darn thing was insanely back breaking harsh, and the buzz in the front handlebars was beyond bad. I hated the bike and kept looking at my DRZ in my garage and realizing the mistake I made. Long story short, after about 1500 in mods (handlebar + isolaters, seat etc) the bike was still bad. Then I said screw it and busted out my tools and adjusted the suspension...WAY better. Then after 2000 miles, the motor became far less buzzy. Now im about 2600 miles in and the bike is great! It's the first vehicle I have purchased that actually did need to "break in." It still gets false neutrals like crazy though and the quick shifter is near worthless. But at least I can ride it now and not hate it. :)
Sounds great. My friend just got a 2020 690 and I will be reviewing it soon I will let him know about the break in period
It’s all about MSRP. They get to advertise and entice you with a lower price. Yes it would be nice if heated grips and quick shift if not options but then price would be $1000 more. I just received my new 790 R. Yes it’s a lot of money but it’s a lot of bike!
For an Adventure bike this handles more like a super motards of road it is king
Good point on msrp
Great bike.
Where is this bike made ?
Sudhanshu Janghel are you sure?
Darek P yup production has moved to China from 2020 . It’s a common known fact in the biker community.
Below are 2 links
www.motorbeam.com/ktm-adventure-790-duke-790-to-be-made-in-china/
indianautosblog.com/ktm-790-duke-ktm-790-adventure-production-shifted-china-september-2020-p319129
Longwayfrom channel also made a video on it below at 2:00 mark
ua-cam.com/video/EdL92jtMysk/v-deo.html
sudhanshu janghel Damn :/ i didnt know about that :/ thanks
Darek P yup that is the reason I would buy the bike available in stock or never buy it after August 2020 😂
@@darekp8746 there's a lot of bullshit about this spread by people who are just looking to get clicks. KTM has issued disproving statements multiple times. this all started as a rumor when ktm signed a deal with a chinese factory; high-end bikes where never going to be manufactured at china anyway, as far as we know, and they have said that 790 specifically never will be.
they don't put those extra toys coz of cost, if u like them than just buy them. For instance I no need quickshifter, heated grips etc..
Amen! Great review. After 5,000 miles on my R, I’d agree completely. Except for the Brembo thing. These brakes are awesome. Don’t care who made them. Also, the buffeting was a big problem for me. I found the rear view mirrors to be a major part of the problem. They create a vortex that lands right at my ears. I’m 5’9”. Rottweiler mirrors, a small spoiler, and a seat concepts low turned mine into an absolute dream.
What do you mean by small spoiler, do you mean one on the windscreen ?
@@tycollins2700 Correct. A small windscreen that attaches to the top of the stock one. Its angle is adjustable and the screen is maybe 9 inches wide and 4 inches tall
Thanks for sharing!
Awesome. Thank you.
You're welcome!
There will never be a perfect bike straight off the showroom floor and your honest review is better than what most MotorMag's are going to tell us. So good job! I do think KTM got the truly important things right. I have added the Puig wind deflector and it solved my buffeting problems. The KTM heated grips are reasonably priced and work well, but the handlebar switch is very lame and the led's are hard to see. I love the cruise control module though - just awesome. I added the Camel ADV rear shock heat guard and the head light assembly stiffener. They must be working since the issue they address has not occurred. I run the comfort settings on my bike as well. So does Chris Birch btw. Cheers
There is, Yamaha. Although I like the KTM790 adventurer R, it’s disappointing to have such flaws.
@@Eastern_SA Do you own or have ridden either bike? I own a Yamaha it isn't perfect and neither is the Tenere. You sound like you have not owned many bikes.
FanOWater I’ve owned 2 Honda and 3 Yamaha bikes before. None had any issues from factory. I currently own one month new WR450F with no issues. I’m looking into buying either 790 or 1290 adventurer bike but I’m worried about factory issues.
I’m answering to the question that which bike has no issue from factory. Here you go now we have two, Honda and Yamaha. I hope KTM catches up and rectify.
ua-cam.com/video/xvf-l8abkhA/v-deo.html
Thanks I just added all the Camel parts too
The points you make provide a strong argument for choosing an alternative to this bike.Very comprehensive and informative.Thank you.👍👍
Trust me, the strengths FAR outweigh any negatives! The T7 and Triumph 900 Rally Pro are the closest to it but for exactly what I want from it, the KTM is the best option.
DR Rider
I’ll have check one out then.Thanks for your feedback.
Watch my other videos - I love the bike.
You HAVE a Quick Shifter..Stock. You pay for Quick Shifter PLUS. Not even 500 miles, and you complain about the suspension, that hasn't even broken in yet? Keep whining. People seem to like it.
will do. and on the QS, I don't think you have one stock, at all. But I could be wrong?
@@BigRockMoto I have the QS stock without paying extra. But there is no way to turn it off in the settings.
Heated grips and windshield??! Why don’t you buy a Jeep?
How, and why does KTM go back to the stone age and run a cabled-clutch? Unreal. . . . .
Should have stuck with your 990
Nah, this handles much more like a dirtbike, and is just as quick on the road. Video coming up on this topic, I know many love their 990's
oil leaks, tech issues,
You bought a 790 and expected no wind buffeting? Dude.... take a look at the headlight, windscreen and fairing! That isn't a Multistrada with an adjustable windscreen, you bought a dirt bike that can handle the road as well. There are tradeoffs.
Yes but they could have done better,
KTM quality, or really LACK of quality, is so bad I just don't understand why anyone would buy one. Getting stranded on the road or track is one thing. Getting stranded out in the wilderness is another. KTM is the land Rover of motorcycles. Guess I'm just not their target customer.
Aren't we spoiled for gadgets and options?!?!?
But we should man up also.
Whooo the brakes, whooo the clutch, whooo the screen... Why the hell buy the R when you clearly need the normal version made specifically for the road?!?!?
What a bummer this is not a perfect bike?!?!?
But we could tell that he would buy this one when he did the vs with the Tenere 700.
Well in the end just buy a car, no buffeting, no cold hands, no problems on the suspension, no problems the brakes because you don't even care, perfect on the highway, good mileage and no need to make a video just for views.
Not trying to be a troll, but I can't see anything else on this video.
Just another one taking a slice of the same cake as everyone else.
He said he was going to point out the negatives. Didn't you hear that at the beginning?
@@toddkurtz7635 you're just missing the point of my comment and because os that it doesn't matter what he says at the beginning, but anyway...
My job as a youtube journalist is to tell the bad, not just the good. When I tell only the good, people accuse me of being paid by KTM. When I tell the bad, people say I am a whiner. So, I cannot win.
@@BigRockMoto I'm sorry but if that the truth you would need to work a lot on your speech.
Go and whatcha your own video and maybe you'll see what I mean.
Kind of agree with you. I started motorcycling 40 years ago......man, the technology has changed. Heated grips was the Star Trek future.....screens for wind buffeting was none existent. Pushing the bike to a garage when you run out of fuel cane as standard. You read the level buy opening the cap and sloshing the fuel and listened. I loved those bikes.....was magical.. froze to death.....remembering chattering teeth, and bend in a curve from the cold. Came home wet, covered in oil.....now it is like a warm sofa with a screen for your movies.
Yeah the nickel and diming makes you feel more like a, Mark, a shylock, a victim than a consumer. Makes me want to wait.
whole motorcycle created to make you spending more and more....
Oh...He's just a hater, he complains about everything
@wirsindheldenowns LMAO!!!!
@wirsindheldenowns yes! right at 0:48 take a listen
He not complaining or hating just making observations from what he has seen from other bikes or personal preference. At least that is the way I take it. 👍
@Samuel Caeiro I don't think anyone get's it lol. Well played sir :D
@@c.a.l.e.b.s i know right? smh
Oh...He's just a hater, he complains about everything
Now we know how far you watched the video! 😀
@@RaoulThomas007 Not long enough apparently haha