Had the bow set up at a pro shop. It performed just fine ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxQEKUoxLWwayEDZR0NKB-5limn4MBU-2L . And I would say this is a good starting now that I could pass down to my son when he is older.But the package was missing the release and a nock was missing from one arrow.Dealing with customer support was terrible. They suggested I buy a new release rather than correct their own quality control issue because it’s to expensive for the. to ship it out from China.Update: manufacturer got back to me and resolved the issue. I retract the above statement.
Probably the best advice at the perfect time. I had a Halon 6 and I was the best shot that I have ever been with that bow. Got a VXR 31.5 2 months ago and have been very discouraged with how much worse my shooting was. As soon as I saw this, everything clicked. I have been fighting my left and right balance the whole time. I thought my hand position was wrong and have been trying to find a torque free grip when it is actually a balance problem. 👍💯
Thank you for mentioning the taking of a life of an animal! So many new "hunters" desperately need this advice!! What I have seen of them displaying what and how they have done it, makes me sick! A hunter does NOT allow it's kill to suffer, aims and executes only when they are sure of the shot. A hunter does NOT let drops of rain stop them from tracking an injured animal if something goes amiss to put and end to their pain. A hunter does NOT go out to kill just for fun. They utilize all of the kill either by sharing with family and friends or donating to a homeless shelter anything over their needs! THIS IS A HUNTER!!! Thank you also for providing such a great video for us just picking up a bow for the first time to help us to become a good hunter.
I used to be a form over function on my hunting bow kind of guy. Short single stabilizer was a staple. Until one day I finally understood what a perfectly balanced bow should feel like. I started playing with weights, lengths and angles. Until I came to finding what works best for me. The extra about 13 ounces my bow gained in weight was nullified by the extra accuracy and hold. Now both my main and backup bows are perfectly balanced and require zero torque at full draw. I still check my bubble, but do not have to fight it. Groups have shrunk and my trust and faith in my equipment have skyrocketed. simply put correct stabilization is the most important upgrade I have made to my archery equipment. Thanks for the great info!
Of the dozens (or hundreds) of archery videos I've watched, this is the first one I've seen address proper stabilization for a sticks stick. Thanks so much for doing our world a favour and putting this out there, Levi.
This has been the best video on stabilizers I’ve found. Ive been shooting archery for about a year and im still figuring out everything, Levi Morgan has been a huge help to my progress.
Levi I am absolutely loving your channel! The information you provide is awesome and very helpful. Your explanation of balancing a bow with stabilizers is the best I’ve heard/seen yet! Thanks man! I look forward to your next video.
Man seriously!!! Thank you for your videos... I’m brand new at archery and you make me understand things better then anyone else I watch. Plz keep it up!!! 👍👍👍
Thanks again for sharing Levi! I wish more of your peers would follow your lead. All of you have a wealth of knowledge that could help promote this sport, hunting and target! Once again, Thanks!
I was working on balancing out my V3X this year. Always had questions around this and I'm about the same build as you. Going to change my 10" front stabilizer to the back and put a 15" stabilizer in the front to try. Very informative, thank you, Levi.
Just got in to archery after a 30 lay-off , things have changed an Levi thank you, I’ve watched a few of you’re you tube videos, it has really helped me to understand a lot , I am shooting in a open class now which was Greek to me, watching u has helped tremendously , thanks again, keep posting
Shooting lately I've noticed I'm dropping off the target. My float is solid at anchor but quickly deteriorates and drops off. Time to adjust balance. My shooting partner thinks I should run slightly longer front bar..currently a 10 and 8 on the back. Time to tinker. Love your boot camp videos, Levi. Great work!
Completely agree with your outlook on your hunting rig. I want it to basically be as good as a target rig but setup for the field or tree stand. Accuracy isn’t any less important when you’re looking for a quick, efficient kill shot. In most ways it’s more important like you said! 👍🏻
Great video and explanation. Watched other videos that just make it more confusing and don't explain anything but they think they are helping you. Dont try to teach what you dont understand. You fully understand and are awesome at teaching. Thanks Levi.
one of the best things Tim Gillingham told me is "6" stabilizers are the biggest sellers and do the least for your setup". If your stabilizer doesnt have a tunable weight system it does nothing but offset some sight weight. I dont think a 15" front bar is crazy for western hunting but it might be a little cumbersome in the midwest and south. great video
I have a 2020 model bear paradox. 32inches axle to axle. Ibo is 330 fps. I put a Qad drop away. Trophy ridge REACT h 5 sight. My stabilizers are Trophy ridge hitman 6 inch in the front and a Apex side mount to another Trophy ridge hitman rear stabilizer 6 inch. Works great. 1to1 is a great set up. Great video.
Subscribed man! Thanks for the content, I’m new to the archery world and I got a hunting set up but mine doesn’t offer an option for a rear stabilizer, is there anything I can do to compensate?
Another great video but a question; At what point do you consider the affect of the quiver? Having concerns of sight and rest leads me to believe a quiver full of arrows should enter into setting up stabilizers.
For me and the new Hoyt pro 30, I am not sure if I will put a stabilizer on. Maybe one on the side. I can already Robin Hood at 30-40 yards without the added weight. For hunting from the ground and tree stands and shots at hunting distance normally less than 40 yards, I think you can do well without the added weight. Just the added chance of a snag or noise in some conditions. That being said, I will be checking out one to possibly off set the quiver.
I used to shoot with no stabilizer and my balance was off. I did not understand why the bow moved so much in my hand at full draw. After buying a few stabilizers, I found one that works for me. It is short (six inches) but, it provides me with better groupings on target.
Hey everyone who puts thumbs down why Levi Morgan is an awesome guy I've known for a while he's really nice if you don't like the videos then just don't watch him I mean some people put them down cuz they don't like bows and stuff but then don't watch him but don't put thumbs down because you're just ruining it this is Dalton harp Nick karp sound and I know Levi and Levi's an awesome guy God bless
Thank you Levi I know this is probably a stupid question but couldn't you build a jig of sorts to hang the bow on and just level it that way or does the bow have to be drawn to properly do this ? Thanks in advance for your help.
love your show levi...and your tips and knowledge in vids or on the show kick ass...thx...liked and subbed...just posted my 1st vid with many to come in the next couple months...im on 59 whitetail sheds this year and 55 last year over here in CT so alot of footage to post...check it out if your into shed hunting as well bro
What are the stabilizer brackets front and back of riser? I was gonna switch from the flatline to the bee stinger but I have the Mathews rear bracket and bee stinger front. Both seem to be way to big to match the micro hexx(borrowed off my fiancé bow)
Levi, I don’t know if you answer questions, but if you get your bow stable, will it still automatically stabilize at full draw if you’re on hilly terrain? So, if I’m turkey hunting on my knees and one knee is downhill/uphill slightly from the other because of terrain, will the bow level itself at full draw?
Stabilizers add weight to the bow and if someone has bow arm shoulder issues that extra weight adds stress to the shoulder. What do recommend in this scenario? Back bar only?
If I adjust my back bar as far as it will go towards the string and my bubble is still not level, is it logically okay to move my back bar to the other side to get the bow to level?? Does that suggest a grip issue? Or will this work just fine to flip sides to achieve level? Thanks advance. Great videos. Much respect.
So what your saying is the average deer hunter where I live in the dense woods of the adirondack mtns in ny I need 2 bows...one small light bow for walking throw the thickets to my stand everyday amd anotherone setup with long front and back bars for 3d shoots or incase I ever get to hunt out west where I can shoot longer shots and need that extra stability
So this all makes perfect sense, I know I’m over compensating to keep the pins plumb- but how do you get a rig like that in a bow case and behind the seat? Do you fold the stabilizers and reset in the field?
I'm fairly new to the archery world so, hopefully somebody here will be able to help me with the following question: How do professional archers compensate for a heavy back bar (usually on the left )of their bows? I think that bar ( and its weights ) is heavier than the sight they use. Most of them shoot a front and back stabilizer only (e.g NOT a V-mount)
Just curious. Does anyone use dead centers bow balancer? I use it and it seems to really really help balancing my bow. It takes the human error/guessing out of the balancing process. Curious as to what other users think?
Could we get a link to that 15in bee stinger? looking at their site i'm not sure which one that is.. The regular microhex doesn't appear to come in at 15in
@@Bgsulove1 Yeah the only 15in tan microhex one's i've found are in their slider bar configuration. Wasn't sure if you could take it out of that and screw it in as a regular stab.
I have watched the videos and listened to other interviews too- all good stuff-thx! To increase your “brand’s” value, leave calling people “idiot” or “retard” out.
This will probably never get answered since this is a 3 year old video. But does any of that matter when you are up on a tree aiming down. You set this bow all up and perfect balance with weight on one side and front or back. But you do that in the standing on flat ground aiming straight forward. It doesn’t make sense to me that 15+ feet up on a tree aiming down the weight will “balance” the same as they did on the ground.
With respect to the man... These professional archer videos are all the same now a days. Talking you into something else you just don't need. Perfectly tuned and calibrated hunting bow, the best gear, perfect form and perfect release. When he releases that arrow he knows exactly where its gonna land. But the one thing his bow can't do is predict the movement of that whitetail at 50-60 yards. Blink of a eye and that perfect shot now land in a deers guts or throat. So if taking a deers life is so serious why not spend as much time on proper stand placement as dialing in your equiptment? Ive never shot a deer outside 20 yards. Never needed to. I have a 60 yard pin but it stays at the range. More professionals need to preach whats really important and ethical when killing.
Had the bow set up at a pro shop. It performed just fine ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxQEKUoxLWwayEDZR0NKB-5limn4MBU-2L . And I would say this is a good starting now that I could pass down to my son when he is older.But the package was missing the release and a nock was missing from one arrow.Dealing with customer support was terrible. They suggested I buy a new release rather than correct their own quality control issue because it’s to expensive for the. to ship it out from China.Update: manufacturer got back to me and resolved the issue. I retract the above statement.
Thanks for this. This is the best video on UA-cam that explains stabilizers and how to set them up.
Levi you are One of the best teachers I know when it comes to Archery keep up the good work and I appreciate everything you do
You and I are two of very many that think that
That’s by far one of the best info videos I’ve even seen on stabilization.
Probably the best advice at the perfect time. I had a Halon 6 and I was the best shot that I have ever been with that bow. Got a VXR 31.5 2 months ago and have been very discouraged with how much worse my shooting was. As soon as I saw this, everything clicked. I have been fighting my left and right balance the whole time. I thought my hand position was wrong and have been trying to find a torque free grip when it is actually a balance problem. 👍💯
Thank you for mentioning the taking of a life of an animal! So many new "hunters" desperately need this advice!! What I have seen of them displaying what and how they have done it, makes me sick! A hunter does NOT allow it's kill to suffer, aims and executes only when they are sure of the shot. A hunter does NOT let drops of rain stop them from tracking an injured animal if something goes amiss to put and end to their pain. A hunter does NOT go out to kill just for fun. They utilize all of the kill either by sharing with family and friends or donating to a homeless shelter anything over their needs! THIS IS A HUNTER!!!
Thank you also for providing such a great video for us just picking up a bow for the first time to help us to become a good hunter.
I used to be a form over function on my hunting bow kind of guy. Short single stabilizer was a staple. Until one day I finally understood what a perfectly balanced bow should feel like. I started playing with weights, lengths and angles. Until I came to finding what works best for me. The extra about 13 ounces my bow gained in weight was nullified by the extra accuracy and hold. Now both my main and backup bows are perfectly balanced and require zero torque at full draw. I still check my bubble, but do not have to fight it. Groups have shrunk and my trust and faith in my equipment have skyrocketed. simply put correct stabilization is the most important upgrade I have made to my archery equipment. Thanks for the great info!
Of the dozens (or hundreds) of archery videos I've watched, this is the first one I've seen address proper stabilization for a sticks stick. Thanks so much for doing our world a favour and putting this out there, Levi.
This has been the best video on stabilizers I’ve found. Ive been shooting archery for about a year and im still figuring out everything, Levi Morgan has been a huge help to my progress.
As always Levi, thanks. Thanks for sharing your experiences and knowledge.
Been curious about back bars for a while. Thanks for explaining them and bringing light to balancing a bow.
Levi I am absolutely loving your channel! The information you provide is awesome and very helpful. Your explanation of balancing a bow with stabilizers is the best I’ve heard/seen yet! Thanks man! I look forward to your next video.
Some of the Best Advise I've heard on Bow Stabilization!! Thanks Levi
This right here is one of the best explanations of stab bars and how to use them to your advantage ive seen
FINALLY! A tutorial on how to set this up. I get the 1:3 ratio, but this really broke this down so I can fine tune my bow.
Always wondered about this. Never had rear stability on my bows but this makes me really think about doing it.
Thank you for another, no fuzz, crystal clear session 👍 Keep up the good work🏹
Top notch video. Content, delivery, lighting all professional quality. Please continue making these, I can’t get enough of them.👍😷
Man seriously!!! Thank you for your videos... I’m brand new at archery and you make me understand things better then anyone else I watch. Plz keep it up!!! 👍👍👍
Excellent and extremely comprehensive tutorial. Well done!!! 😎👍
Great video! I never thought about tuning with everything on it.
Thanks again for sharing Levi! I wish more of your peers would follow your lead. All of you have a wealth of knowledge that could help promote this sport, hunting and target! Once again, Thanks!
Thanks for everything Levi!! Really appreciate all that you share! So well explained and so understandable!
Great explanation for using a rear stabilizer for hunting. Been avoiding doing so out of weight concerns. Adding a rear bar today!
Great video my man! No one talks about stabilization like you do in this video! Very informative
I was working on balancing out my V3X this year. Always had questions around this and I'm about the same build as you. Going to change my 10" front stabilizer to the back and put a 15" stabilizer in the front to try. Very informative, thank you, Levi.
Super helpful. Thanks for sharing Levi.
Just got in to archery after a 30 lay-off , things have changed an Levi thank you, I’ve watched a few of you’re you tube videos, it has really helped me to understand a lot , I am shooting in a open class now which was Greek to me, watching u has helped tremendously , thanks again, keep posting
This is my new favorite channel 🏹👍
Shooting lately I've noticed I'm dropping off the target. My float is solid at anchor but quickly deteriorates and drops off. Time to adjust balance. My shooting partner thinks I should run slightly longer front bar..currently a 10 and 8 on the back. Time to tinker. Love your boot camp videos, Levi. Great work!
Love these series as a new bow hunter 👍🤟🏹
Completely agree with your outlook on your hunting rig. I want it to basically be as good as a target rig but setup for the field or tree stand. Accuracy isn’t any less important when you’re looking for a quick, efficient kill shot. In most ways it’s more important like you said! 👍🏻
Great video and explanation. Watched other videos that just make it more confusing and don't explain anything but they think they are helping you. Dont try to teach what you dont understand. You fully understand and are awesome at teaching. Thanks Levi.
“Don’t be an idiot!!!!” Words to live by!!
That was a VERY helpful explanation Sir!
Great video
Keep them coming Levi
one of the best things Tim Gillingham told me is "6" stabilizers are the biggest sellers and do the least for your setup". If your stabilizer doesnt have a tunable weight system it does nothing but offset some sight weight. I dont think a 15" front bar is crazy for western hunting but it might be a little cumbersome in the midwest and south. great video
Awesome video Mr. Morgan
I never have been taught the benefits of proper stabilazation thank you
Thx for useful info... great work.
I have a 2020 model bear paradox. 32inches axle to axle. Ibo is 330 fps. I put a Qad drop away. Trophy ridge REACT h 5 sight. My stabilizers are Trophy ridge hitman 6 inch in the front and a Apex side mount to another Trophy ridge hitman rear stabilizer 6 inch. Works great. 1to1 is a great set up. Great video.
Thank you so much for your content.
thank you levi, from a french bowhunter , it help me a lot. i have better groups know
solid video! Thanks!
Awesome info
excellent video.
All makes sence now! Cheers
Love the T shirt!
Thanks for this videos
Subscribed man! Thanks for the content, I’m new to the archery world and I got a hunting set up but mine doesn’t offer an option for a rear stabilizer, is there anything I can do to compensate?
Is it safe to assume you’re going through the back bar process again when you mount a full quiver on the bow?
perfekt thanks a lot Levi
Thank you for this
Another great video but a question; At what point do you consider the affect of the quiver? Having concerns of sight and rest leads me to believe a quiver full of arrows should enter into setting up stabilizers.
Are you running this same stabilizer setup in a treestand? Or are you shortening up the lengths a tad?
Accuracy kills more than power and timing kills more than speed.
Since this is mainly with your hunting bow, what are your thoughts on target stabilization, front and side bar angles, weights?
Love the shirt
For me and the new Hoyt pro 30, I am not sure if I will put a stabilizer on. Maybe one on the side. I can already Robin Hood at 30-40 yards without the added weight. For hunting from the ground and tree stands and shots at hunting distance normally less than 40 yards, I think you can do well without the added weight. Just the added chance of a snag or noise in some conditions. That being said, I will be checking out one to possibly off set the quiver.
I used to shoot with no stabilizer and my balance was off. I did not understand why the bow moved so much in my hand at full draw. After buying a few stabilizers, I found one that works for me. It is short (six inches) but, it provides me with better groupings on target.
Hey everyone who puts thumbs down why Levi Morgan is an awesome guy I've known for a while he's really nice if you don't like the videos then just don't watch him I mean some people put them down cuz they don't like bows and stuff but then don't watch him but don't put thumbs down because you're just ruining it this is Dalton harp Nick karp sound and I know Levi and Levi's an awesome guy God bless
Do you balance it after you've attached the quiver? What about the number of arrows in the quiver, doesn't that affect the balance too?
Thank you Levi
I know this is probably a stupid question but couldn't you build a jig of sorts to hang the bow on and just level it that way or does the bow have to be drawn to properly do this ?
Thanks in advance for your help.
love your show levi...and your tips and knowledge in vids or on the show kick ass...thx...liked and subbed...just posted my 1st vid with many to come in the next couple months...im on 59 whitetail sheds this year and 55 last year over here in CT so alot of footage to post...check it out if your into shed hunting as well bro
What are the stabilizer brackets front and back of riser? I was gonna switch from the flatline to the bee stinger but I have the Mathews rear bracket and bee stinger front. Both seem to be way to big to match the micro hexx(borrowed off my fiancé bow)
Do you balance with your quiver full or off or just what you think you will be using when hunting?
With a 10 degree front disconnect do you run it straight, or a little left or right for any reason ?
Levi, I don’t know if you answer questions, but if you get your bow stable, will it still automatically stabilize at full draw if you’re on hilly terrain? So, if I’m turkey hunting on my knees and one knee is downhill/uphill slightly from the other because of terrain, will the bow level itself at full draw?
Stabilizers add weight to the bow and if someone has bow arm shoulder issues that extra weight adds stress to the shoulder. What do recommend in this scenario? Back bar only?
If I adjust my back bar as far as it will go towards the string and my bubble is still not level, is it logically okay to move my back bar to the other side to get the bow to level?? Does that suggest a grip issue? Or will this work just fine to flip sides to achieve level?
Thanks advance. Great videos. Much respect.
how do you know what lenght to use on front and back stabilizer?
So what your saying is the average deer hunter where I live in the dense woods of the adirondack mtns in ny I need 2 bows...one small light bow for walking throw the thickets to my stand everyday amd anotherone setup with long front and back bars for 3d shoots or incase I ever get to hunt out west where I can shoot longer shots and need that extra stability
So this all makes perfect sense, I know I’m over compensating to keep the pins plumb- but how do you get a rig like that in a bow case and behind the seat? Do you fold the stabilizers and reset in the field?
Drew Diaz quick disconnects
Witty Hobbyist and back to the Lancaster catalog
I'm fairly new to the archery world so, hopefully somebody here will be able to help me with the following question:
How do professional archers compensate for a heavy back bar (usually on the left )of their bows? I think that bar ( and its weights ) is heavier than the sight they use. Most of them shoot a front and back stabilizer only (e.g NOT a V-mount)
Can you explain up an down on rear bar? Chris b said down puts weight to the front. Is this true?
Very well said!!! Thanks
What if you do not have a level on your sight? How do I level it?
Why would you not run a 12” side bar to down a little total weight? Is the 12” too cumbersome?
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Just curious. Does anyone use dead centers bow balancer? I use it and it seems to really really help balancing my bow. It takes the human error/guessing out of the balancing process. Curious as to what other users think?
I like your shirt
My v3x is super front heavy. Why use a front bar at all?
Could we get a link to that 15in bee stinger? looking at their site i'm not sure which one that is.. The regular microhex doesn't appear to come in at 15in
I found them under the side bar category. They only come in black or white and black.
@@Bgsulove1 Yeah the only 15in tan microhex one's i've found are in their slider bar configuration. Wasn't sure if you could take it out of that and screw it in as a regular stab.
Lawrence Altaffer that’s a good question. I wonder why they don’t just offer more colors. Who doesn’t was an OD green or a FDE?
Totally agree
I cant find them either must bern custom for him
😂😂 nice shirt!
What sight is that you use?
Sureloc
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Just ask Broadwater! 😂
"One ounce in the front does as much as three to four in the back"
True man of culture, big butts are overrated, very nice👍🏻
I have watched the videos and listened to other interviews too- all good stuff-thx! To increase your “brand’s” value, leave calling people “idiot” or “retard” out.
This will probably never get answered since this is a 3 year old video. But does any of that matter when you are up on a tree aiming down. You set this bow all up and perfect balance with weight on one side and front or back. But you do that in the standing on flat ground aiming straight forward. It doesn’t make sense to me that 15+ feet up on a tree aiming down the weight will “balance” the same as they did on the ground.
With respect to the man... These professional archer videos are all the same now a days. Talking you into something else you just don't need. Perfectly tuned and calibrated hunting bow, the best gear, perfect form and perfect release. When he releases that arrow he knows exactly where its gonna land. But the one thing his bow can't do is predict the movement of that whitetail at 50-60 yards. Blink of a eye and that perfect shot now land in a deers guts or throat. So if taking a deers life is so serious why not spend as much time on proper stand placement as dialing in your equiptment? Ive never shot a deer outside 20 yards. Never needed to. I have a 60 yard pin but it stays at the range. More professionals need to preach whats really important and ethical when killing.
Not everyone hunts in a tree stand brah
Ishi didn't stabilize.