Making Crown Molding for the Sunroom | Home Renovation & Addition Part 66
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I’ll admit to being old fashioned. It pains me to watch you make such perfect woodwork with such beautiful hardwood and then paint it. I know what is in style right now and that is some of the finest finish woodwork l’ve seen. Fantastic work.
Johnny get over it princess
That's one of the beauties of Matt doing this work himself is he can finish the wood in any way he wants. The hope is that you may get the chance to build your dream home in whatever way you want
Looks like poplar, it's not really that hard and it paints nice.
And the machine spits out another perfectly carved length...
The first cut is the deepest -Sheryl Crow
I built my house in 1983, which actually means in 2023 I still have things to finish up. The crown moulding project looks great. In my mind the best thing about a project like that is the self-satisfaction component, something those who hire a contractor will never know😊.
Hey Matt, saw you today hauling some logs! I knew that truck and trailer from somewhere, sure enough it was you! We exchanged a friendly hello, keep up the good work!
Love your exciting for making crown molding. So many steps and we did not even see half of the work you did for setup. Great job!
Showing us the real world issues to set-up and correctly get the results you are going for is amazing. As you said, you could have gone and bought "stock" molding, but it is not what you and your wife wanted. Your career has given you reasons to have many of the tools needed to get the results you want, it is significant financially and experience wise. My rambling is meant to say "You are impressive in the use of your gained knowledge to work your way through these challenges". That is something many of us would like to have as well. Continued congrats on the house and the admiration of looking back on it as a product of your family's minds and hands.
Good Morning Cremona Family.
That was interesting. I've made my own custom moldings before to match the antique moldings in a house I did an addition on, but I bought the crown moldings, because none of the existing Crown moldings matched from room to room in the original house anyways . I noticed that you like to spray the final coat before you install. Which I never did, I would just prime it good, then install, fill the nail holes and seems, and then brush on the final coat, which when it was done it looked like it was sprayed on anyways because it didn't show brush marks. Anyways, that's how I used to do it. Even if there were defects which there weren't, people don't stare at Crown moldings on the ceilings to notice anyways.
That's so true were the only one's who appreciate our own work and sometimes that;s all that matters.
lost you're cute little helper. Forgot almost, MERRY CHRISTMAS
Cut angles on the fence edges to match the back cuts to keep the stock from rolling, the rollers will hold it down. I'd hog out some of that waste on the face to ease the load on the cutter. Your custom moldings will really add to the fine work and beautiful design of your rooms. The meticulous attention you and Donavan gave to the framing really pays off on a job like this.
Those Wm&Hussey molding machines are the nuts for getting the moldings just the way you want them. We had quality issues with the local trim suppliers so we bought our own W&H. With 97 different profiles in the house, we had to have a lot of knives made.(Most were similar to stock profiles but 50% larger - 13' ceilings, so normal profiles looked "wimpy".) We ended up making "sleds" for guides - a sheet of luan with the side rails glued on. It made switching between profiles a LOT faster.
To me this is the most useful video of the series. Now I know a lot more about the characteristics and quirks of one of those moulding machines. You must have been filling your chip collector pretty regularly with that big moulding knife.
Years ago, and I don't even remember what project I was working on, I made a more simple cove molding using the exceedingly sketchy technique of running the wood across the blade of my table saw set with fences at a diagonal. It worked, and I still have all ten fingers, but I will never try that trick again. Cheaper to buy it. And it isn't exactly good for the saw blade, even with shallow cuts.
Those crown back split knives are a PIA. I always have a single back knife made. Although I do agree the split knives are more versatile.
Bevel your side fence to match the back of your molding
I can appreciate your crown molding build. I worked on a historical building in Santa Barbara and had to have knives made to recreate the original trim. It was a painfully slow process but came out beautifully
Your jigs are cool.
My molding machine will cut radius heads for doors and windows with a carefully built jig. I like your videos
Wondering if you can cut the bowl 1st
@@leesorenson6119 we made segments forming the radius needed, ( width and thickness included in blanks)
Then we ran thru the Hussy molding machine. Came out nice . We couldn’t use flexible rubber due to historical society
The day I’ve been waiting for! Crown!
That takes allot of talent Matt !
Rather impressive
It sure is nice to have warm weather in Minnesota in November and December!
I was squirming when your daughter was pushing that piece through and you were looking at your phone!! yikes, you looked up in time to get her to stop thankfully!
You were squirming? You're being a little dramatic princess
That Hussey molder is a neat little machine. We made arched and eleptical moldings with it. Wasn't easy but we got it done.
When you did that sanity check, I went "Do'H"!
Dude. Must confess, I fast forwarded a lot of today's content. But, your content is so dang good I had to watch a bunch of it! I can say comfortably that I will NEVER make crown moulding, but I still watched it. You did such a great job of going through the process. I mean fantastic and you REALLY captured how much time is spent standing at one end or the other waiting for the piece to enter or exit the machine. I made a whole house of just baseboards back in the day. One and done baby!!!! Never again!!! Thank you teacher Matt!!!
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Milling up your own lengths also gives you a much crisper end product. The stock stuff at lumber yards always looks like it was cut with dull knives.
Matt, I know you just wanted to make your own one time to see what it was like. Well, you did an excellent job. I must admit being a little worried about Eloise while you were on the phone and she was out of site helping. I’m guessing you might just buy some stock Crown Moulding next time. I would….haha!
Beautiful sunroom! And a lovely assistant to help you do a great job with crown molding.
Great job, Matt.
Could you have used a table saw to cut those bevels on the back side?
Additionally, you can use the table saw again to cut the cup shape by choosing the correct diameter circular saw and running the board at an skewed angle.
And finally, you can use a router to make the details on the bottom edge. That would be your first cut, I suppose 😊😊
It is possible to use a table saw or shaper for all of this (a router/shaper is nicer for the edge details as you noted). In my experience using those, the table saw requires A LOT of jig setup to make it seem safe. I much prefer the shaper for it. If I had to do as much as Matt is doing, I would sure be glad to know a friend who had a molder. If I didn't I would be inclined to just buy the molding ready made. IMO, it makes for a great look without all the time and effort. ESPECIALLY if it is being painted.
@@don1031 Yes, buy the molding ready made is the way to go.
The molding is non-structural and can be made of recycled composite material that wouldn't warp or shrink.
Cheers 😊
THANKS FOR THE GREAT VIDEO.
Interesting Video
Merry Christmas
"Trim & paint - make it what it ain't..."
It is looking so good !! I LOVE YOU GUYS !!!!!!
Great work
I appreciate all of the work you're going through to make these wonderful crown moldings- I would do the same. On the other hand, these foam replicas are hard to beat, from any way you want to look at them...unless you wan to crawl up there and verify what they are. Anyway, I'll keep watching, no matter what you do. At 82, I didn't think that there were any true craftsmen left.
Foam vs wood for a woodworker lol. No REAL WOODWORKER would even consider foam
Except someone who values his time.@@daveklein2826
Learn as you go - nice job with the molding. Stay safe.
Milford NH!
Awesome video! Thank you for sharing!
So many tools for trim.
Absolutely bizarre that you're working in December with the garage door open in Minnesota!
It was November but bizarre regardless
Your crown molding has a beautiful profile. Less is more when the view outdoors is amazing. ❤❤ Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays and a Blessed New year 🦌⛄️🙏❤️❄️🤶🎄🛷🎅
Very interesting process!
Love it so much keep it up as always 💘
It was nice to see you had some extra help and supervision for a while. Merry Christmas.
I guess we understand why manufacturers want so much for set up fees--that is the hard part.
I wondered about cutting the cove first and then doing the backing angles....
You could but you’d have to set up an angled bed to compensate for the difference in finished thickness on the top vs bottom of the profile. You’d also have a good likelihood of marring the profile
You as well Merry Christmas and happy new year 🎊
Your moulder is a very versatile machine.I am a little surprised your architect didn't opt for a distinctive and unique profile to capture your over the top creativity.
Thanks for demonstrating each step it takes to do a truly custom addition to your house.
Yuuup, I have to agree that you didn't go for a more creative and unique design on your moulding to emulate your distinctive style !! A beautiful design, nevertheless - thanks for sharing, Matt !!
There’s a good dose of keeping things simple to not distract from the focal point in each room. For the sunroom, the focal point is the glass
Agreed, that profile looks exactly like off-the-shelf lumberyard crap!!
Yeah Matt,
You could have been a little more innovative with the Crown molding and at least introduced a Mathew Cremona design for your Sunroom !! LOL !!
That shot of you painting at night with your pointed beanie hat on made you look like one of Santa's elves.
Nicely done. Thanks for the videos.
Great work Matt, happy holidays to you and your family, thanks for sharing.
Thank you again for another informative video, fascinating. Well done you.
Awesome stuff Matt, that moulding looks great! 😃👍🏼👊🏼
Matthew! At minute 13:15 my heart skipped 2 beats! You look at your phone and you precious little daughter hands near the machine. I know as the viewer I know had the bad view and nothing happened.
But, It scared the bat crap out of me. 😬
Great job Matt, Timothy
Great work, as always! Would cutting the face cove before the back angles have provided for surface support for the fencing and feed rollers?
Bravissimo
Ok…so using a machine is very modern! 🤔🧐 I have two Stanley 55 planes with all the cutters and you could get your daily exercise at the same time! 😁
Congrats , you learned the reason they charge so much for a setup fee lol
I'm a bit surprised at the chatter marks.I've used WH molder for years and have not had much of a problem with the problem you had. It's beed a couple years since the last time I used mine and I don't do a lot of custom millwork anymore. I always do the back with one blade but I did 300 feet minimum and always made my guide beveled to help support the side bevel when doing the face. I also replaced the 2 HP with 5 HP and ran at a higher feed rate. The machine is built like a tank. I specialized in curved molding mostly as there was great money in it.
From experience, it would have been a lot easier to just run the profile and then do the back cuts on the table saw, if your projection and rise are the same then it is just 45 degree angles
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Ah… woodworking! 😀
It’s amazing how much attention to detail people like us put into our work, only to have normies say “Looks good!” I can’t stop looking up at the timber frame trusses I put in my kitchen/dining room. All made of box beams that I put together and had to make look like solid 6x6 beams, all for people to say “Look good!”😂 just once I would like somebody to ask, what was the most difficult part of that one piece? ❤u!
Unless you're doing this for a customer, who's opinion does matter, I wouldn't worry about what anyone says. We all have opinions, just like we all have A-holes. Next time someone doesn't like your work, tell them to do it and see how it turns out. People who have never built furniture or done finish trim are clueless. Just move on. 😂😂
Matt, are you not sick of trim by now? Might be a good time for a nice little break...oh, I don't know....in Ireland maybe!?!? 😋
Why not just cut those back angles on the table saw? Seems like doing that after you mill the face would solve your problem with the rolling while cutting the face.
A bit less dicking around using the moulder. The first back cutter is greater than 45 degrees. You’d also need a way to hold that curved profile down to the table using something that won’t mar the surface
If you did the concave cuts first, would that have supported it better? Then do the standup edge and the last edge.
Williams and hussey has sold these for ever. You might find a good used one. They were $1200 30 years ago now 4300 wow
I know you get the satisfaction of doing it yourself. But to much stress and work for me. I would get the shop bought profile. I have made a small runs by using the Table saw and multiple runs ( I'm talking 5mts total.
I think the reason you're not able to run both back piece knives at the same time, and also the reason the holes are at fixed widths apart, is you're supposed to grind the knives with respect to the machine to offset the hole in each knife to have the correct distance! So the knives were made incorrectly, at sub-optimally,
Now the $200.00 setup fee is understandable. You didn’t say how long it took you and its very nice..
Is that a William and husset molder planer. if so the were originally from Nh . I have 3 of them. my back cutters for crown are one piece. so you only need to set up once for the back cuts
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Given the complementary angle of the backcuts is always 90 degrees why not just rotate the board 90 and get the correct angle off a single cutter?
Looks like a lot of hard work why didn’t you buy plaster cornice so much easier
Beautiful work! Just a shame Pancake didn't help. But at least your daughter showed you how to feed the wood in the shaper. Will we ever see Lindsay with a paint brush helping?
I hope not. Everything is sprayed 😄
@@mcremona Everything sprayed? Not even a little touch up? Ok, let Pancake do some then!
The company that makes that machine need to make interchangeable outfeed rollers the same as the knife
That would be wonderful
I believe that is cove moulding, not Crown moulding.
Wil 229 donavas ?
There is so much cash in manufacturing custom moldings I am shocked you do not hv both hand/ feet/ full body into it?
Merry Christmas to the log slayer family!
It’s proportional to the investment in tooling, time, and space
@@mcremona my friends Wife , parent own a huge Milling Operation in Nor Cal . And yes the initial set cost is big; ( u hv the building which is a big cost) , and maintaining ! Worst of all labor ! Not cost of labor? But the drama of labor!
By the way it is “Live Oak Lumber Mill”, in Nor Cal .
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With the trouble you were having cutting the molding, could you have cut the concave first then cut the back? Just wondering.
Not easily
Both those back cuts are 45° no? quicker on the table saw surly.
First one is 48
Sorry if I missed it but what company makes/ grinds these knives?
www.williamsnhussey.com
Matt I always wonder how long it takes to do your hair
All night while I sleep
it would appear now that everyone uses router tables. which as a hobbyist is ok. but you really cannot beat a spindle moulder.
Not true.... Router tables are for professional woodworking too. They are safer, faster to set up and less costly for the bits
Did you say what kind of wood you were using?
Poplar
Turned out very nice.
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Table saw mfg.?
What's a Jesus Cremona without a crown!
Little tiny baby Jesus Cremona
Sweet baby Cremona
is this a knock knock joke?
Why not youse a shaper!
Notice you still haven't trimmed out around your garage door on the new building. Procrastination .....
Maybe next year
why did you not just use your table saw. all of those cuts can be done on it?
Not true
Why do you wear a mask indoors, when you have the dust collection machine thingy in place?
Safety
@@daveklein2826 Apparently you didn't read my question.
That's what the dust collection is for.
So why the mask?
User, I read your question and responded.... It's safety. Realizing that you THINK you know something, you clearly DON'T. Dust collection does NOT remove all airborne particles....so again, it's for safety
Nah, not really.
@@daveklein2826
Maté don’t have your child around wood working machinery 🤷♀️
Mate, you work your way
When I saw the little one pushing the plank into the machine, while you were unable to see her hands (and checking your phone) my heart skipped a beat. Not cool.
She was perfectly safe
The profile you are making looks like your basic molding so why not save time and aggravation and just buy it and move on to the next thing, I know making things yourself is very satisfying but to me I would rather take stock moldings and stack them in a manner I like.
Didn’t find anything I felt was close enough
Yikes! Must note I was extremely alarmed to see a four- or five-year-old being encouraged to wander around a dangerous environment like your "homemade planning mill".....
Not for nothing but your daughter scared the ___ out of me when you were on your phone and she walked to the other side of the shaper and was "helping" push the wood through. Then I realized you wouldn't put up a video where your daughter lost her fingers.