Another superb Podcast, thank you all for putting it together. Exceptional levels of research by Jon Preddle - wouldn't it be amazing for him if at the end of years of diligent work, he could find an episode! He deserves a Knightwhod
Another cracker - and the new slant on overseas sales accounting was fascinating and very Brazil (Gilliam) Also I remember being outside the Tavern in '99 when they were rehearsing for the Millennium lightshow and the Tower was illuminated with lighting sequences and everyone was doing Wotan impersionations.
In another universe... “The. War. Machines. Are. Required.” - The Doctor “That’s not the name of the robots. That’s the name of the show!” - The Viewer
Love the intro, but I wouldn't be shocked if there's a new thread on the missing episodes forum saying missing episode podcast members confirm Web 3 and Highlanders in possession 😂🤣
Gerry was a good friend - as I recall, the “Doctor Who” line in War Machines arrived in the script, which was delivered in quite a hurry. As a result, it got overlooked and left in by acciden. The regulars would presumably have picked up on this - they fact it remains could support Gerry’s assertion that it was down-to-the-wire editing rather than a deliberate insertion by himself. What is 100% true was that Gerry watched some episodes when he took on the job, including The Massacre, which he hated. He thought it was grim and not suitable for a young audience. He wanted story setting that the audience would recognise - either from their own experience or through books they might have read at school. Hence Smugglers and Highlanders... and War Machines.
@@matejadjedovicExcept the full quote from Logopolis’s original airing actually goes; “The moment has been prepared for. My Cadbury Wispas will arrive from the mail at my Tardis in five minutes and I’m due for a dental appointment.” Unfortunately, they cut the latter part of the dialogue from later airings and home media for being deemed too scary for children since it drew attention towards the fact the Fourth Doctor might have a rotted tooth from the sweets. Another portion of a scene that got a few seconds exercised after airing is the Master playing with his shrunken victims like dolls because Australia thought that being the plaything of the Master was too frightening for the kangaroos to witness in down under.
A lot of people questioned the point of this podcast episode’s existence, given that the War Machines mostly exists but this is probably one of the best so far! An incredibly interesting discussion. The equity payment research was so fresh and insightful. Certainly the newest wave! Also in the first half Tim sounds like he’s having an absolute blast, a laugh in every line. Great job everybody!
The censors definitely didn't like fighting. Because of the censors, Power Rangers didn't air in New Zealand until 2011, (despite being filmed there since 2003), so it doesn't surprise me to hear they didn't like The War Machines.
The pronunciation of WOTAN could be an attempt to make it sound Eastern European. It's the 60s, Eastern Europe was still full of scary communists, so I'm sure they'd have possibly made that connection.
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Another superb Podcast, thank you all for putting it together. Exceptional levels of research by Jon Preddle - wouldn't it be amazing for him if at the end of years of diligent work, he could find an episode! He deserves a Knightwhod
Thanks Oliver!
Another cracker - and the new slant on overseas sales accounting was fascinating and very Brazil (Gilliam)
Also I remember being outside the Tavern in '99 when they were rehearsing for the Millennium lightshow and the Tower was illuminated with lighting sequences and everyone was doing Wotan impersionations.
In another universe...
“The. War. Machines. Are. Required.” - The Doctor
“That’s not the name of the robots. That’s the name of the show!” - The Viewer
Blimey! You've been busy badgers! Wasn't expecting this till spring 2024.
Wonderful to see you all back again. Fascinating discussion of an excellent story. Many thanks for all the hard work.
Thanks Greg!
Love the intro, but I wouldn't be shocked if there's a new thread on the missing episodes forum saying missing episode podcast members confirm Web 3 and Highlanders in possession 😂🤣
They do let their imaginations run away with them, don't they? And that's being charitable.
Grateful again for such an enjoyable and informative podcast
Gerry was a good friend - as I recall, the “Doctor Who” line in War Machines arrived in the script, which was delivered in quite a hurry. As a result, it got overlooked and left in by acciden. The regulars would presumably have picked up on this - they fact it remains could support Gerry’s assertion that it was down-to-the-wire editing rather than a deliberate insertion by himself.
What is 100% true was that Gerry watched some episodes when he took on the job, including The Massacre, which he hated. He thought it was grim and not suitable for a young audience. He wanted story setting that the audience would recognise - either from their own experience or through books they might have read at school. Hence Smugglers and Highlanders... and War Machines.
If you fancy recording a conversation about Gerry let me know ☺️
Very jealous of Gerry Davis getting to sit down and watch The Massacre!
@@MuchWhitteringWe need to invent a memory device and hook it to his brain for replay!
The best way the BBC can find these missing episodes is to retrace their steps and remember where they last left them. 🤷🏼♂️
I don’t think the BBC would spend money to do it. It’s fans and collectors who do these things. And it’s been going on for 40 years
@@Gallifrey1991 It works when I lose my glasses or my phone. 🤷🏼♂️
I can’t believe the grand finale of this podcast will be “The Space Pirates”
Just to be funny, he’ll cover the technically “missing” 3rd Doctor serials.
I think the sun will have become a red giant and fried us all by the time we get to that story.
But... wait a minute. You made a mistake! The War Machines isn't missing, I have it on DVD.
Why do you hate me so much :) Can't believe you've been waiting WEEKS to say that hahaha
@@missingepisodespodcast The moment has been prepared for.
@@matejadjedovicExcept the full quote from Logopolis’s original airing actually goes; “The moment has been prepared for. My Cadbury Wispas will arrive from the mail at my Tardis in five minutes and I’m due for a dental appointment.”
Unfortunately, they cut the latter part of the dialogue from later airings and home media for being deemed too scary for children since it drew attention towards the fact the Fourth Doctor might have a rotted tooth from the sweets. Another portion of a scene that got a few seconds exercised after airing is the Master playing with his shrunken victims like dolls because Australia thought that being the plaything of the Master was too frightening for the kangaroos to witness in down under.
The three rogue AIs of Doctor Who - Wotan, BOSS and Xoanon. And now with Mission:Impossible 7, very timely.
So....what was on Jon Preddle's papers he was waiting for that made him say Holy.......?
That it featured a copy of a Batman comic featuring the Batman Creature and being aghast at how far Batman had fallen as a character?
A lot of people questioned the point of this podcast episode’s existence, given that the War Machines mostly exists but this is probably one of the best so far!
An incredibly interesting discussion. The equity payment research was so fresh and insightful. Certainly the newest wave!
Also in the first half Tim sounds like he’s having an absolute blast, a laugh in every line.
Great job everybody!
Aww thanks so much, Steven. We'll be doing all the recovered episodes too :)
Wotan should be pronounced "votan" that's an entirely accurate way of pronouncing the ancient Germanic god; In German, W is always pronounced V.
Gerry had previously worked on United, which might have been the Dunlop connection.
The censors definitely didn't like fighting. Because of the censors, Power Rangers didn't air in New Zealand until 2011, (despite being filmed there since 2003), so it doesn't surprise me to hear they didn't like The War Machines.
July 16th... deliberately timed release? Talking of Cockney casting, there's also Mike Reid of Dimensions in Time and EastEnders fame...
A complete coincidence!
I've got a book called The Quest for Gaia by Kit Pedler
Enjoyed that.
Excellent!
excellent
The pronunciation of WOTAN could be an attempt to make it sound Eastern European. It's the 60s, Eastern Europe was still full of scary communists, so I'm sure they'd have possibly made that connection.