Paul's point at the end is so important. As Doctor Who fans, we forget how lucky we are. We have a majority of 60s Doctor Who, and for what we don't have, we have the audio. We have telesnaps, we have clips, we have people making recons. Plenty of shows from the 60s are gone completely, and plenty of shows have episodes missing well into the 70s. Doctor Who is the most famous example of missing episodes, but it is by no means the most severe. While we'd all love to see some more Doctor Who, it almost feels a little greedy to prioritise that over other shows.
Even sadder than lost material...is the spike milligan and goon show material that actually exists in the archives, but the bbc just refuse to release it
Wonderful - one of the joys of school was the head of languages would bring his 16mm projector in every summer and put on a show in the main hall for 10p. And we would treated to The Italian Job. He was always promising that next year he would get Superman - but he never did. After a while we suspected he only had the one film.
Thank you Tim for a really enjoyable and informative video. I'd like to also say thank you to your guests for being so open and talking about the hobby. I hope some more Dr Who returned at some point especially Patrick Througton. Fury from the Deep and the Power of the Daleks please.😁
since your podcast started years ago it has given a lot of information what I want to know is how wiping happened at the time with all the mechanical things that the machine did to it and if you had a Time Machine I would go to the bbc in 1967 and stay there for three years working for them at the same time going back and forth to send the master tapes over to present quickly before they the past figure out what’s going on transfer them present then send the masters back to the past with the past save would be a good idea?
An absolute pleasure listening to this latest podcast. Really brings context to the film collectors passion and dedication which sometimes is blighted by the obsessive WHO fan base that has a unfortunately demonised the film community. Simply the best podcast so far, and that’s saying a lot. Fantastic 😊
What I'm curious about is what the BBC preserve modern era episodes on. Classic era are mostly stored in the BBC archives on 2 inch videotapes. While many with the first 3 Doctors exist either as 16mm/35mm film prints, NTSC-PAL converted videotapes or even domestic videotapes. As the first 4 series of modern era were shot in SD quality, are they also stored in the archives on videotape or some physical format? Presumably episodes since the 2009 specials have been shot in digital formats in either 2K HD or 4K UHD resolution.
Now that I've listened further, that's absolutely brilliant that the two Johns have launched an initiative to get collectors linked up with archives. Staggering that this hasn't happened before but here's hoping this leads to something positive for fans of missing TV.
I was interested by Paul 's comment (I think it was him) about how difficulties arising from the rights owners was a big factor, if not the major issue, with why Network releasing had to close. Still very sad. And lets hope the BFI have a rethink about how they manage things.
Fantastic conversation!! I live in hope that BBC series The Quatermass Experiment (1953), A for Andromeda (1961) and Dead of Night (1972) can one day be found. True lost gems of British television that should be held in the same regard as Doctor Who. 🫡
Unless a time machine is invented you will never get to see The Quatermass Experiment. Only episodes 1 and 2 were tele-recorded. All 6 episodes were broadcast live and this was in the days before video tape existed. Sadly episodes 3 to 6 will never be found.
Fun and informative as always. With film reels like missing Dr Who, if they were to be projected at home. Do the projectors have inbuilt audio speakers? Or to hear audio tracks, was there a film equivalent of audio speakers? Thanks.
Both is the answer. Some projectors have inbuilt and some have an audio output socket into which you plug in your speakers/amp. That’s as far as optical sound goes anyway. I have no idea re: magnetic sound. Maybe the same?
my aunt worked in the bbc in the 60s she had some old film cans in the attic but i burn them by accident when i was 7..lucky i didnt burn the house down....that stuff goes up quick
lets get some good science fiction writers for a change....ones that actualy like the medium..no more modern day london shows...lets get back to time and space....check small stations in america for old shows
Paul's point at the end is so important. As Doctor Who fans, we forget how lucky we are. We have a majority of 60s Doctor Who, and for what we don't have, we have the audio. We have telesnaps, we have clips, we have people making recons. Plenty of shows from the 60s are gone completely, and plenty of shows have episodes missing well into the 70s. Doctor Who is the most famous example of missing episodes, but it is by no means the most severe. While we'd all love to see some more Doctor Who, it almost feels a little greedy to prioritise that over other shows.
Even sadder than lost material...is the spike milligan and goon show material that actually exists in the archives, but the bbc just refuse to release it
Fingers crossed on Dr. Who that would really make my 60th anniversary but if not anything is great maybe more missing Dad's Army.
Wonderful - one of the joys of school was the head of languages would bring his 16mm projector in every summer and put on a show in the main hall for 10p.
And we would treated to The Italian Job. He was always promising that next year he would get Superman - but he never did. After a while we suspected he only had the one film.
Fantastic, fascinating and first class! Great job Tim, Paul & both John’s! Really enjoyed listening to you all. Real eye opener gents!
Fabulous conversation. Collectors are a breed apart (comic collector here!) and thank God for that!
Thank you Tim for a really enjoyable and informative video. I'd like to also say thank you to your guests for being so open and talking about the hobby. I hope some more Dr Who returned at some point especially Patrick Througton. Fury from the Deep and the Power of the Daleks please.😁
Could i suggest a future special edition which consists solely of Harry playing classic film music on the piano?
Haha! Thanks bro
Truly excellent. I thought I’d have a quick listen to the start of it earlier this morning and ended up listening to the whole thing.
since your podcast started years ago it has given a lot of information what I want to know is how wiping happened at the time with all the mechanical things that the machine did to it and if you had a Time Machine I would go to the bbc in 1967 and stay there for three years working for them at the same time going back and forth to send the master tapes over to present quickly before they the past figure out what’s going on transfer them present then send the masters back to the past with the past save would be a good idea?
An absolute pleasure listening to this latest podcast. Really brings context to the film collectors passion and dedication which sometimes is blighted by the obsessive WHO fan base that has a unfortunately demonised the film community.
Simply the best podcast so far, and that’s saying a lot.
Fantastic 😊
The Avengers series one with Ian Hendry must find for me list
What I'm curious about is what the BBC preserve modern era episodes on. Classic era are mostly stored in the BBC archives on 2 inch videotapes. While many with the first 3 Doctors exist either as 16mm/35mm film prints, NTSC-PAL converted videotapes or even domestic videotapes. As the first 4 series of modern era were shot in SD quality, are they also stored in the archives on videotape or some physical format? Presumably episodes since the 2009 specials have been shot in digital formats in either 2K HD or 4K UHD resolution.
What a fascinating conversation. Thank you for sharing this with your listeners!
Fascinating to hear these stories, and heartbreaking to think how many films must be mouldering away in backyard sheds.
Now that I've listened further, that's absolutely brilliant that the two Johns have launched an initiative to get collectors linked up with archives. Staggering that this hasn't happened before but here's hoping this leads to something positive for fans of missing TV.
Thank you all for your time
What a pleasent surprise.
I was interested by Paul 's comment (I think it was him) about how difficulties arising from the rights owners was a big factor, if not the major issue, with why Network releasing had to close. Still very sad. And lets hope the BFI have a rethink about how they manage things.
Finally got to listen to this. Absolutely fascinating listening. Thanks to everyone involved 🙏
Fantastic conversation!! I live in hope that BBC series The Quatermass Experiment (1953), A for Andromeda (1961) and Dead of Night (1972) can one day be found. True lost gems of British television that should be held in the same regard as Doctor Who. 🫡
Unless a time machine is invented you will never get to see The Quatermass Experiment. Only episodes 1 and 2 were tele-recorded. All 6 episodes were broadcast live and this was in the days before video tape existed. Sadly episodes 3 to 6 will never be found.
I think commercially released Dr Who has a far wider appeal than Z Cars ...
Naturally
Amazing podcast
Fun and informative as always. With film reels like missing Dr Who, if they were to be projected at home. Do the projectors have inbuilt audio speakers? Or to hear audio tracks, was there a film equivalent of audio speakers? Thanks.
Both is the answer. Some projectors have inbuilt and some have an audio output socket into which you plug in your speakers/amp. That’s as far as optical sound goes anyway. I have no idea re: magnetic sound. Maybe the same?
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When is the next podcast out?
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my aunt worked in the bbc in the 60s she had some old film cans in the attic but i burn them by accident when i was 7..lucky i didnt burn the house down....that stuff goes up quick
lets get some good science fiction writers for a change....ones that actualy like the medium..no more modern day london shows...lets get back to time and space....check small stations in america for old shows
I would prefer if episodes of It's A Knockout were found instead. I find them more entertaining than Who these days.