I'm just an old school guy that built many motors from early 70's-90's. I've never heard of splitting two different sets of bearings to achieve a set tolerance. Always ordered undersized or oversized bearings in half thousand size increments. A old dog learning new tricks. Thanks for the channel.
I totally agree that the LS engine is a really great platform. Please keep informing us of the various ways to strengthen the weak points of this engine! Thank you for expanding my knowledge!
@@JacobVillemain You have to have done this for 10 years to know the details you do ... but you don't look like you're even 30..? (thanks for enduring the heat in there for us). The info is amazingly informative. If you can remember though, perhaps less camera flailing. :) I don't get carsick in cars but apparently can get camera-sick. Sweet relief when the camera goes stationary :-)
Yea I m building just about the same engine. It’s my second one so I’ve been watching your video very closely. I want to make sure I don’t leave out a step or make any mistakes.I’ve got the block on the stand I’m waiting on the rotating assembly to get here and my set of heads. I think I’m going to have them milled about 20k. Good luck with the rest of your build and is there any way I could contact you through email if I have a issue or somethingI may need some advice on?
I've built two engines for friends and paid the $80 each time for cam bearing R&R, so I'm thinking I'd like to get a nice bearing installer. I remembered seeing this months ago and had to hunt a little to find the video. I know you use to do a tech tip segment, you should throw up a new one say this is what I use this is what a layman could use on a budget. Thanks for your videos.
That's awesome. I'm just beginning to learn about engine building. I'm a welder by trade and have been for about 10 years but I'm considering taking some kind of mechanic or engine class. I've learned quite a bit already just from your videos. Keep up the great work.
@@JacobVillemain ya know. Im not sure how u used to install the cam bearings but for me I always stood the engine on the back of the block front facing up ND used a regular seal driver with an extended shaftdriver that I made from a transmission shaft. ND it goes in pretty good for me I do use a little oil to make it go in better.
@@markdonovan9247 he’s on the high end for both 93/91. With a perfect tune I’ve seen 12 to 1 on 93, 11.6ish on a good tune with 91 is about the limit. 11 to 1 is safe with good fuel/tune/maintenance. BwaAA!!
Great video. Your pacing is awesome, taking time to explain the things that matter and fast forwarding (but not omitting!!) the things that are already generally understood.
For ls engines the best bang for your buck with cam bearing tools is the summit ls specific cam bearing tool. never had issues with it and used it on 10+ ls engines aluminum and iron. Takes like 10 minutes to install a set of cam bearings. Just make sure to use a cam to verify u put um all in straight before assembling the motor.
Building the same basic setup in my tube chassis s-10 in 6.o class. Plan on running Rec heads/solid roller/Victor 4500 intake on alcohol. I appreciate the video! I'd be curious to see what this Dude will make on the dyno... Thanks again!!
@@JacobVillemain As much as I can get away with safely. I would like to be around 13.5 - 1 to 14 - 1 if possible. What's your thoughts on using the "adjustable by shimming" pushrods from Comp Cams for my solid roller set-up compared to the adjustment for lash being in the rocker itself (AKA. shaft mounted adjustable rockers from Jesel/T&D etc.). The "adjustable shim style pushrod" setup is more affordable but I concerned with the durability of the set-up..?? Any insight would be appreciated. Thanks
You like domed pistons? Shoulda grown up in my time (late 70-80's) ... domes as far as the Rocky Mountains!(cyl head tech took a coupla decades to catch up 🤣). Flame front was a thing to deal with...sorta went away for a bit but obv its gonna come back...but efi(tech) has to help with that but is there still issues w/flame front?...#curious
Im new to the LS platform and your channel. Have you done a high compression 468 stroker built to handle nitrous? Im curious what I would need for that build.
Heh i want to do the opposite, use a 4.8 crank have a big bore, short stroke like an f1 motor with heads built to rev it out and either 8-1 headers or 180 degree, but the stroker also tempting as it would have monster torque. Would be going in an FC
What was root cause for rod bearing failure? 8K shouldn't be an issue especially with 3.622 stroke. Was motor apart before? Bearing clearance too tight? Rod bolt stretch? What's the planned rpm for the 416? Surprised not using a CCW crank? Does Smedding offer ccw LS cranks?
8k with stock LS3 rods and rod bolts will eventually cause the bearing to fail. 416” will see the same range, CCW not required at the power level & rpm.
First off, thanks for the awesome detail in your videos here! Now, a question I had on the Loctite on the mains... I like the idea of that, as I've had headstuds on an ecoboost start to turn while torqueing the nuts down, but ARP seemed to be against the idea of it (using loctite). (At least for head studs) Any comment/opinion there? Also, I'm in the process of building my LQ9 for boost and plan to run main studs like you've done here. Looking at the ARP instructions they state that if you use loctite, you must torque them down BEFORE the loctite sets up. Any thoughts there? Thanks!
If you're running a piston with the gas ports with nitrous, do you need additional ring gap due to the ports adding more pressure and I'm assuming heat to the ring?
I’m getting read to build a LQ9 6.0 this will be my first led engine trying get some ideas on what compression should I run gonna use 243 heads and probably be on nitrous
with that type of compression would you be able to daily it ? i have a ls2 in my tbss rn that was built for boost but i ended up not going boosted. so ive been planning to build a high high compression stroker but unsure if it would be daily able
Would you mind commenting the model number of that torque wrench? My snap on only tells me the torque but the degrees and counter would be very useful. 🙏🏻
Have a john deere tractor 🚜 with a 404. Motor want to rebuild it can you please help me and tell we what to do for more power will spend the money 💵 for horse power where are you located
Where is your shop located ? I have 6.0 I need freshened up and more horse ponies going in a 1996 jeep xj. Can we work something out? I’m in little Elm Texas
Engine Guy I want to go Lq4 6.0L iron block 03yr NA 600hp add nitrous later 4L80 tranny putn it n a 96 SS Impala. Do U hve a rotating assembly kit balanced for dat block?
Love the work ethic, very nice builds, could you help me with my build, I have a callies 4" crank, stock 6.098 rods for my 5.3 383 iron block my compression height is 1.142 could you help me find a piston or pointme to someone who can sell me this custom stroker piston, Thanks!!
Do you lube the cylinders prior to installing the pistons? Just wondering because I didn't see you do that in this vid. Can't wait to hear this beast run!
Wow pulling the off the shelf cam and hitting every lobe on the way out, nice thing to do. Would have been nice to see the tool actually working and not your hand just spinning the crank.
351C motors do have some flaws...they are a 2 galley oiling system, the valve train is very harsh on components, and the blocks are not strong. They have canted valve angles & rocker arms, but the lifters are still inline in the engine block, so they get side loaded very hard when spring pressures & rpm start to go up. Best Ford combination you can come up with is a Windsor based short block with Cleveland style heads.
Ball park on this exact build looking at either max NA or blower. car is currently cam ported intake big stall pump 93. Definitely looking for more out of it.
@@JacobVillemain not that’s fine I would be doing the switch to E either way. But if I could get into that power range Na there would be a lot let headache
is there a way i could get in contact with u i juss bought a 6.2l i want to stroke it and and go with a stage 4 btr cam and i wanna got forged internals i juss wanna know which heads bearings pistons i juss want to do it rite and i want to send it to a machine chop to put half inch head studs in it too my names Dion thanks.....
Hi Jacob great videos nicely explained and shown keep'em coming mate. do you have a ( 420 stroker and what sought of HP would you think it could produce. ? i would like to get around 800. ? then add a Twin Procharger set up too it) build up video for a L98 6Ltr GEN 3 Rectangle port head version, it's all stock, except for mafless tune, otr cold air induction,1 -7/8 primary into cat backs and 3" x pipes. HP AT Present is around 380HP. thanks in Advance Dave
Unless its a drag only engine id say thats pretty unrealistic. For it to make 800hp on an NA engine that small youll need high ass compression and a BIG cam and goodshaft rocker setup. and then it probably wont be good for 1 streetable sized procharger.... let alone a twin setup unless youre running pure Methanol. id shoot for 625 on engine and lower compression a couple points. 800 actual whp on a 408 with a regular cam and 10.5:1 thatll run on 91 octane with a single procharger on 8-10psi is absolutely CRAZY on the street or even most road courses
What is the longest stroke/shortest Rod ratio (and even pin height) you are comfortable with in a >20psi Turbo LS using a standard 9.240 deck, running right up into the upper RPM range, with say the RPM limit being the Hydraulic lifters ?
I have a aluminum 5.3 that i was wanting to do this too also , I found some 13.1 pistons for it , i wonder what kind of power i could get out of it with my prc 2.5 heads on it, maybe even drop in a 4in crank also
Love your videos and very informative. Was just curious, when mixing main bearings, is there a rule of thumb as to whether the block or the cap gets the undersized/oversized bearing?
That part number is CBD-1 for $1600 gets all the cone sizes?? Or is there a better price with more size cones somewhere else??? Would only need for LS motors.
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I'm just an old school guy that built many motors from early 70's-90's.
I've never heard of splitting two different sets of bearings to achieve a set tolerance.
Always ordered undersized or oversized bearings in half thousand size increments.
A old dog learning new tricks.
Thanks for the channel.
Yeah seemed nuts to me cause you'd imagine it wouldn't then be a perfect circle but I looked it up and it checks out
The guys that worked on the LS engineering team deserve credit for designing the best small block ever made.
Agreed!
I totally agree that the LS engine is a really great platform. Please keep informing us of the various ways to strengthen the weak points of this engine! Thank you for expanding my knowledge!
Thank you!
@@JacobVillemain You have to have done this for 10 years to know the details you do ... but you don't look like you're even 30..? (thanks for enduring the heat in there for us).
The info is amazingly informative. If you can remember though, perhaps less camera flailing. :) I don't get carsick in cars but apparently can get camera-sick. Sweet relief when the camera goes stationary :-)
Look at the nicks and cuts on his hands. Man with experience.
Its effecient
I've been using that cam bearing tool for about 6 months now. Game changer!! I haven't beat a bearing in since.
I love your videos because you always show the process COMPLETELY and explain why your doing what your doing
Yea I m building just about the same engine. It’s my second one so I’ve been watching your video very closely. I want to make sure I don’t leave out a step or make any mistakes.I’ve got the block on the stand I’m waiting on the rotating assembly to get here and my set of heads. I think I’m going to have them milled about 20k. Good luck with the rest of your build and is there any way I could contact you through email if I have a issue or somethingI may need some advice on?
Whenever you explained the main studs step.
That's when I knew, you know your stuff. 🍻 you gained a new subscriber.
I've built two engines for friends and paid the $80 each time for cam bearing R&R, so I'm thinking I'd like to get a nice bearing installer. I remembered seeing this months ago and had to hunt a little to find the video.
I know you use to do a tech tip segment, you should throw up a new one say this is what I use this is what a layman could use on a budget.
Thanks for your videos.
I’m going to be calling very soon about doing something similar to my ls2. Love the work man
That's awesome. I'm just beginning to learn about engine building. I'm a welder by trade and have been for about 10 years but I'm considering taking some kind of mechanic or engine class. I've learned quite a bit already just from your videos. Keep up the great work.
Very cool!
@@JacobVillemain ya know. Im not sure how u used to install the cam bearings but for me I always stood the engine on the back of the block front facing up ND used a regular seal driver with an extended shaftdriver that I made from a transmission shaft. ND it goes in pretty good for me I do use a little oil to make it go in better.
Thank you for taking care of me bro! Very appreciated
Was that your 8000rpm engine that spun a bearing?
@@maxthemadtuner that’s the one but was more around the 8500rpm when she left the premises ☠️
@@NA6SPD wow! What power did it make?
@@maxthemadtuner on stock compression and 93 it was 538whp, then I added 25% UDP, vararam, and 13:1 on E85, never dyno’d again
@@NA6SPD nice! I am curious if you know what the WOT timing was?
I have a 1980 Camaro, and thinking about putting an LS engine in it. They are so much better than old school engines.
I have a 418 with 11.4:1 it’s a machine especially on spray!
does it run on 93 octane?
@@markdonovan9247 he’s on the high end for both 93/91. With a perfect tune I’ve seen 12 to 1 on 93, 11.6ish on a good tune with 91 is about the limit. 11 to 1 is safe with good fuel/tune/maintenance. BwaAA!!
Thanks for the info on the cam bearing puller. I've seen local shops use them and never could find where to get my own.
Engine guy! Is a true artist! Who makes master pieces!!
Great video. Your pacing is awesome, taking time to explain the things that matter and fast forwarding (but not omitting!!) the things that are already generally understood.
Excellent i'm building a LS2 gen 4 stroker would have liked to see some of the clearance of the block
For ls engines the best bang for your buck with cam bearing tools is the summit ls specific cam bearing tool. never had issues with it and used it on 10+ ls engines aluminum and iron. Takes like 10 minutes to install a set of cam bearings. Just make sure to use a cam to verify u put um all in straight before assembling the motor.
Building the same basic setup in my tube chassis s-10 in 6.o class. Plan on running Rec heads/solid roller/Victor 4500 intake on alcohol. I appreciate the video! I'd be curious to see what this Dude will make on the dyno... Thanks again!!
That will be awesome! What compression are you going with?
@@JacobVillemain As much as I can get away with safely. I would like to be around 13.5 - 1 to 14 - 1 if possible. What's your thoughts on using the "adjustable by shimming" pushrods from Comp Cams for my solid roller set-up compared to the adjustment for lash being in the rocker itself (AKA. shaft mounted adjustable rockers from Jesel/T&D etc.). The "adjustable shim style pushrod" setup is more affordable but I concerned with the durability of the set-up..?? Any insight would be appreciated. Thanks
@@markshaw3219 I used them on my old SBE LS1 setup. I like them!
@@JacobVillemain Thanks for sharing your info!
You like domed pistons? Shoulda grown up in my time (late 70-80's) ... domes as far as the Rocky Mountains!(cyl head tech took a coupla decades to catch up 🤣). Flame front was a thing to deal with...sorta went away for a bit but obv its gonna come back...but efi(tech) has to help with that but is there still issues w/flame front?...#curious
E85 build. Interesting. I hope yiu put the right cam in it.
Im new to the LS platform and your channel. Have you done a high compression 468 stroker built to handle nitrous? Im curious what I would need for that build.
Jacob, Your Vette needs this level of compression or more
Love the build videos, do you do alot of engines with coated pistons?
I always use coated skirts, and will anodize the top face depending on cylinder heat.
What was the price in that cam bearing tool? That’s a super nice tool that I got to have
That's what I want for Christmas.
Great info and very thorough! I would like to build a similar configuration using the Gen V LT platform. Can you help me with that?
Did you align hone the block to compensate for distortion caused by the additional clamping force of the main studs?
em, what kind of oil are you running with those bearing clearances? 20-50? maybe 30-60?
Great video, keep them coming!
Heh i want to do the opposite, use a 4.8 crank have a big bore, short stroke like an f1 motor with heads built to rev it out and either 8-1 headers or 180 degree, but the stroker also tempting as it would have monster torque. Would be going in an FC
I’ve always had turbo cars but one day I’d like to do a max effort N/A build. Just to see what it could do in a lightweight car
What was root cause for rod bearing failure? 8K shouldn't be an issue especially with 3.622 stroke. Was motor apart before? Bearing clearance too tight? Rod bolt stretch? What's the planned rpm for the 416? Surprised not using a CCW crank? Does Smedding offer ccw LS cranks?
8k with stock LS3 rods and rod bolts will eventually cause the bearing to fail.
416” will see the same range, CCW not required at the power level & rpm.
It was seeing nearly 8500 based on the time the ECM was maxed over 8192 on the logs, don’t be lazy on adjusting your clutch engagement down smh
Soooo…what’s the price for this exact build? If I wanted to do a bit of an upgrade….
First off, thanks for the awesome detail in your videos here! Now, a question I had on the Loctite on the mains... I like the idea of that, as I've had headstuds on an ecoboost start to turn while torqueing the nuts down, but ARP seemed to be against the idea of it (using loctite). (At least for head studs) Any comment/opinion there? Also, I'm in the process of building my LQ9 for boost and plan to run main studs like you've done here. Looking at the ARP instructions they state that if you use loctite, you must torque them down BEFORE the loctite sets up. Any thoughts there? Thanks!
If you're running a piston with the gas ports with nitrous, do you need additional ring gap due to the ports adding more pressure and I'm assuming heat to the ring?
I’m getting read to build a LQ9 6.0 this will be my first led engine trying get some ideas on what compression should I run gonna use 243 heads and probably be on nitrous
The only thing I saw that was concerning was you didn't smack the crank to center the thrust bearing and check crank shaft end play
with that type of compression would you be able to daily it ? i have a ls2 in my tbss rn that was built for boost but i ended up not going boosted. so ive been planning to build a high high compression stroker but unsure if it would be daily able
Would you mind commenting the model number of that torque wrench? My snap on only tells me the torque but the degrees and counter would be very useful. 🙏🏻
Have a john deere tractor 🚜 with a 404. Motor want to rebuild it can you please help me and tell we what to do for more power will spend the money 💵 for horse power where are you located
Where is your shop located ?
I have 6.0 I need freshened up and more horse ponies going in a 1996 jeep xj. Can we work something out? I’m in little Elm Texas
I'M BUILDING A 6.0. DOING A 30 OVER. HOW NOISY WILL THESE PISTONS BE AT COLD START. ARE 2618 PISTONS MORE FOR BOOSTED ENGINES.
Engine Guy I want to go Lq4 6.0L iron block 03yr NA 600hp add nitrous later 4L80 tranny putn it n a 96 SS Impala. Do U hve a rotating assembly kit balanced for dat block?
Love the work ethic, very nice builds, could you help me with my build, I have a callies 4" crank, stock 6.098 rods for my 5.3 383 iron block my compression height is 1.142 could you help me find a piston or pointme to someone who can sell me this custom stroker piston, Thanks!!
Yes I can get a set of custom pistons for you. You can message me on instagram or email me directly.
This would be a great engine for a couple twin turbos and a lot of boost!!!
With 14:0 compression ratio? Would need to be running pure methanol.
Love that sticker.
Do you lube the cylinders prior to installing the pistons? Just wondering because I didn't see you do that in this vid. Can't wait to hear this beast run!
Yes, I use Driven break-in oil
I'm curious about the mixed set of main bearings. Didn't know that was a thing. Preference as to which one goes where?
I have an engine that ran on no oil. Not sure if the tiny scuff on main cap makes it useless.
Can you drop a link to all the parts, I want to build mine but having trouble finding parts
Wow pulling the off the shelf cam and hitting every lobe on the way out, nice thing to do. Would have been nice to see the tool actually working and not your hand just spinning the crank.
Nice vid op! You're a master! What are your thoughts about the 351C motors can they handle power?
351C motors do have some flaws...they are a 2 galley oiling system, the valve train is very harsh on components, and the blocks are not strong. They have canted valve angles & rocker arms, but the lifters are still inline in the engine block, so they get side loaded very hard when spring pressures & rpm start to go up.
Best Ford combination you can come up with is a Windsor based short block with Cleveland style heads.
@@JacobVillemain where can i contact you please?
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What kind of power looking at with 14:0? I'm looking into a 12.0 compression 416.
How come u don’t torque in a spiral pattern just curious
Ball park on this exact build looking at either max NA or blower. car is currently cam ported intake big stall pump 93. Definitely looking for more out of it.
You can not run this much compression with 93 octane. Need to switch to E85. About $4-5k depending on options
@@JacobVillemain not that’s fine I would be doing the switch to E either way. But if I could get into that power range Na there would be a lot let headache
What's a bottom build like this go for 👀
no washers for the main studs? Looking good bud
is there a way i could get in contact with u i juss bought a 6.2l i want to stroke it and and go with a stage 4 btr cam and i wanna got forged internals i juss wanna know which heads bearings pistons i juss want to do it rite and i want to send it to a machine chop to put half inch head studs in it too my names Dion thanks.....
Hi Jacob great videos nicely explained and shown keep'em coming mate.
do you have a ( 420 stroker and what sought of HP would you think it could produce. ? i would like to get around 800. ? then add a Twin Procharger set up too it) build up video for a L98 6Ltr GEN 3 Rectangle port head version, it's all stock, except for mafless tune, otr cold air induction,1 -7/8 primary into cat backs and 3" x pipes. HP AT Present is around 380HP.
thanks in Advance
Dave
Unless its a drag only engine id say thats pretty unrealistic. For it to make 800hp on an NA engine that small youll need high ass compression and a BIG cam and goodshaft rocker setup. and then it probably wont be good for 1 streetable sized procharger.... let alone a twin setup unless youre running pure Methanol. id shoot for 625 on engine and lower compression a couple points. 800 actual whp on a 408 with a regular cam and 10.5:1 thatll run on 91 octane with a single procharger on 8-10psi is absolutely CRAZY on the street or even most road courses
Check out Detroit Speed gen 3 Camaro, destroked ls7 making 800 I think. Others have done 800 flywheel with ls7 I believe
Will you be running this on the Dyno? HP estimates?
How much do you charge to rebuild an engine? I have a L94 that blew a piston.
Can you spray nitrous on 14 :1 compression?
Love the videos bud
If I choose to buy a shortblock from Smeding for my bullet, can I be assured you'd be the one to build it??
Haha! If it’s not me it will be another very talented builder.
At 16:35 did you not torque the one rod bolt? I know this is you think but it wasn't shown on video
Weak points of this engine is a great discussion, Thank You Also: are the palm of your hands ok, they are really red?
Haha yes they are! It is very hot in San Antonio some days and my skin tone may come across as red due to lighting conditions.
What is the longest stroke/shortest Rod ratio (and even pin height) you are comfortable with in a >20psi Turbo LS using a standard 9.240 deck, running right up into the upper RPM range, with say the RPM limit being the Hydraulic lifters ?
Keep it simple and run a 4" crank w/ 6.125" rods.
is this logan’s motor?
Was the block Resleeved to make the 416
Is there a reason to not used a torque sequence?
Seen it in a couple vids of his... Driving me crazy. Lmao
Who makes this cam bearing tool?
Ls the world!! ❤
Yee!
What fuel is required for 14:1?
How much power did it make?
Who makes the cam bearing installer?
Did you ever got results on dyno?
What was that sealer you put on each side before the small main side bolts? Not seen that before. Thanks for the help.
Permatex RTV
I have a aluminum 5.3 that i was wanting to do this too also , I found some 13.1 pistons for it , i wonder what kind of power i could get out of it with my prc 2.5 heads on it, maybe even drop in a 4in crank also
Love your videos and very informative. Was just curious, when mixing main bearings, is there a rule of thumb as to whether the block or the cap gets the undersized/oversized bearing?
I honestly don’t have one. Whatever is on the shelf is good to go 👌🏼
Love these badA$$ builds!!!
Any opinion on TotalSeal Quick Seat dry assembly lubricant?
I haven’t used it but I’m sure it works!
What's the price on the cam bearing tool?
No dyno results?
Question what where those pistons would they be good for 427 N/A
That part number is CBD-1 for $1600 gets all the cone sizes?? Or is there a better price with more size cones somewhere else??? Would only need for LS motors.
I bought mine with only the LS puck.
Part number for that kit with that puck and where please? It would so help my own build please.
@@richardcoleman9645 call BHJ and they’ll be able to help you out
Thos cam bearings aren't hard to install all u have to do is put the engine on its back ND pound it down
Where can I get my hands on this stroker combo really been wanting to get an Ls3 stroker kit like this N/A🏁💯
Message me on instagram.
That one can be used for the iron blocks to looks like
Yes it can.
Did u notch the block for the rod bolt
Do u align hone main caps when u use arp main studs on alumiun 6.2 block
Pls, keep us updated with the cam selection. Im building a 6.0 with 12cc domed pistons to get 12.5cr and im still not sure whats the best cam fpr it
It’s a very large cam lol
Could you make a list of youre recommended tools
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Yo brotha where did that bearing tool from thank you
What's your LS Timing Chain of choice?
Where you from need my ls3 done want that 416 stroker
Which torque wrench are you using?
Are you in Texas?
How big is the piston 4.075?
What company do you build for?
Smeding Performance.