Yes, they do. They believe in *their* logic which is absolutely illogical in most cases, e. g. "Oh, science can't explain how non-living matter came into being, ergo God did it. Checkmate, atheists."
Manuwan Peramunugama Say what again? That theists' logic is absolutely illogical in most cases or that science can't explain how non-living matter came into being? If you know how non-living matter came into being, tell me, please. In case you didn't notice, there are quotation marks in my last comment for a reason.
PaleGhost69 Love is the feeling resulting from a series of chemical reactions. Love while unprotected in a hard vacuum or several hundred feet under water is probably not all you need, despite John's assertion to the contrary.
Sage Savage *I disagree. I prefer to call "love" the actions one takes after the chemical reactions wear off. (which happens in between six months to a year.)*
B well... no. Yeah its true that the original mad rush of chemicals causing infatuation wear off, there are still lingering chemicals that cause you to stay with that person. It is a choice, but just like with every decision we have ever made chemicals ultimately influence and decide that choice.
The fact that theists can even ask these questions with a straight face honestly terrifies me. Because it honestly speaks more of them than it does of me. Are they saying if they didn't believe in 'god' they wouldn't love someone? That alone implies they don't care about love or being good, they just wanna score brownie points with the big bad Mafia boss in the clouds. And that is neither altruistic or compassionate. In all due honesty, they do it because they're commanded to, not because they want to-they'd rather not do the job, but hey, they HAVE to, or they believe they,ll get flogged for not doing it. And that's just immoral... No. Not just immoral. It's outright cowardly. It's the most shameless form of suck-up in my eyes, and I have no respect for people who indulge in it. TL:DR Theists have no morals, just rules, are craven to the extreme, and don't have any capacity for love, empathy or altruism. It's just an act and they fail miserably at pretending they actually give a fuck about others so long as they can get their fix. The sheer selfishness of it all makes me want to puke.
No. Theists can ask this question with a straight face because they have a diametrically opposing worldview from you where God IS love and where love is not a mere emotion. Emotions change due to stimuli, but love is eternal. Love supersedes feelings. Love creates. No, belief in God isn't what enables a person to love, because we believe that God IS love and everything he does is love including creating us in his image, hence our ability to love. So, simply because one does not accept the existence of God doesn't change the fact that they are his creation and made in his image so whether one believes in God or not, they have the capacity to love. It's just interesting to hear the explanation of it manipulated from an atheist worldview.
How can you love your fellow human beings , them being not perfect , and not love Jesus , him being perfect ? Get off of your self righteous , bigoted , holier than thou high horse and stop judging people just because they believe in God . Stop putting down people who are different than you . Are you anti - Christian ? Deal with it , we Christians are first class citizens and you are not above us . Dan Barker , Annie Gaylor and Christopher Hitchens and their anti - Christian , anti - American bigotry do not in any way represent my atheist friends . One of my female atheist friends finds Annie Laurie Gaylor sick and appalling .
*Love is the actions one takes after the infatuation has worn off. Love is the beautiful actions one does for another even if they don't feel like doing it. Love isn't a feeling, but a choice.*
B Alright. Love is an emotion, a chemically induced emotion. Hence it is a feeling. It doesnt matter what the external circumstances or situations are.
When they make this comparison, they are conflating their belief with the object of their belief. We can compare/study love like we can compare/study belief, but belief in something doesn't prove its existence.
Why would you believe in a book written over hundreds and hundreds of years ago, my response is do you believe that Columbus sailed to South America just because it was written in a book hundreds and hundreds of years ago. You weren't there and neither was I, so who's to say it never happened.
To be fair, Christians and Muslims define "love" as the thing the invisible guy in the sky has for us, despite being willing to sentence us to eternal torment and suffering for the slightest infractions or sign of doubt... so I'm not sure we're all on the same page about what constitutes "love".
Absolutely wrong. I can know exactly what a Christian thinks love is because they state it over and over and over again, and unlike say a fish describing what it's like to breath and I can never understand because I'm not a fish, a Christian and an Atheist are both human beings using a common language to describe a shared experience of which both are capable. So when a Christan says Jesus is love, and Jesus is God, and God is unchanging, and God hates gays, and God demands the first born of everything, including humans, be sacrificed to him because it all belongs to him, I can clearly understand love, hate, sacrifice, ownership. I know what all these things mean, Christians don't get a special pass to some deeper level of understanding, if anything it's the opposite; if a Christian claims the god of the bible loves us all while committing atrocities against us (or demanding that we commit atrocities against each other in his name), clearly THEY are the ones failing to understand the meaning of love. The concept of love long predates Christ, they don't get to change the definition to suit their perverted purpose.
Thomas Binney well 1. God doesn’t hate anyone, ya gays aren’t going to heaven but if they accept the Holy Spirit in their heart then they will forgive them and they can go to heaven because God will love them, that is love, God is love. Sending his son to die on the cross for us and suffering what he did. Is that not love, giving your life for someone. I’m a Christian and I love everyone, I would die for you but the only reason I would do that is because jesus and I know where I am going. I’m not trying to argue with you or say u r wrong because ur beliefs are your beliefs and I have mine, but I wouldn’t be happy or love as much as I do without God that’s why Christians say God is love
+Howlingwolf/Pantherprod UA-cam quote: "Thomas Binney and God doesn’t demand sacrifice that was only in the Old Testament before jesus died for our sins" So in other words, god DID demand human sacrifices, up until he sent his son to be sacrificed. And his son had to die to keep us from going to hell, a punishment that never existed before Jesus. So before Jesus the worst that would happen is that you would die and stay dead, but after Jesus you get to suffer eternal torture. Remind me again why Jesus is supposed to be good for us? According to Jesus, to have any hope of obtaining heaven, you have to keep the Law better than the most pious priest, something NO modern day Christian does, so by your own god's words, you're all going to hell... which means we still don't get any rest from your complaining.
My World Religions professor claims that we can’t explain love with just chemicals and no one had ever discovered why we feel love. In response, I emailed him an article detailing possible ways love evolved and how we can observe love as chemical reactions in the brain. To which he responded, “But that’s not love, that’s just chemicals! Love isn’t chemicals!”
Are you saying all relationship problems could be solved by giving people dopamine supplementation therapy? Why has this not happened years ago? Is it just possible that there is a little bit more to the story than just brain chemicals?
"Are you saying all relationship problems could be solved by giving people dopamine supplementation therapy? Why has this not happened years ago?" I mean, we probably could if we wanted to. We already have drugs that correct hormonal imbalances fro people with depression. But we'd need to do a lot more research into it. Your question is kind of like asking, "Why haven't we discovered the cure to cancer years ago?" Scientific discovery isn't a loading bar that takes a set number of years to advance. It can happen very quickly or very slowly. "Is it just possible that there is a little bit more to the story than just brain chemicals?" Sure. It's also possible that a god exists, but that possibility is so slim that it isn't even worth considering. Nothing we have observed in any way suggests that our emotions are anything but chemically based responses to stimuli. If you have something to suggest otherwise, please present your evidence.
Okay, I hear you. However, at the end of the day Love is no different to other chemical reactions within our universe. Its just that, an impulse that is dictated by whatever environmental pressure you are faced with. To say that love is demonstrated through the actions of how others treat each other, still does not justify the concept of love. The justification for why that should be the desired outcome cannot be explained through materialism. The world view has reduced it and given it no value. An atheist who try to shape their arguments behind the philosophy of value is to me dishonest. How can value be derived from the perception of blind, accidental forces of chance? And by the way to save you guys from straw manning me, I am NOT saying atheists cannot love but merely pointing out what is to me inconsistencies of what the atheistic world view offers.
Love isn’t just a feeling. You may not always have that “chemical reaction” around your spouse. But no matter what happens, you still lose them. You choose it. Those reactions can be defined as something else like passion.
As an ex catholic I get why so many theists think that atheists don’t believe in love. When I was a catholic I was taught that God is love so basically when you say “I don’t believe in God” they make the association God == love therefore “I don’t believe in God” == “I don’t believe in love”
A very relevant comparison between feelings of love and religion is that both may be the result of seduction, meaning that it is not a two-way sentiment. It is even possible to induce the emotion in someone for an object of love/belief without the object existing as more than seducing words.
"The best logical thinking" you're putting yourself on a pedestal. Well, mass and energy to create an entire universe so vast that nobody can even Imagine past it, must've come from somewhere? Where did it come from? Was there a universe before? And if so...where did that one come from? If not, again, where did the energy and mass come from? If you have the most logic, why is your belief only considered a theory? And if you don't know, than how are you all the most logical thinkers?
Atheists can’t have morals. All you have to do is focus on your survival in favor of natural selection. If you believe in morals, you are no atheist. Atheism is logic and only logic. You are a believer of the morals you hold. A Christian, for example, identifies as one because of the unique set of beliefs which he believes constitutes morality. If you want morals, then go live in the world full of unicorns and fairy tails of theists.
@@zeke179 "True atheists" are those who came to their realization of non-belief through actual study and work at analyzing everything they could on religion and theology and comparing that to science and logic and reason. The rest are just the ones who had an irrational reason for not liking something about the idea of "God" or "going to church" or things of that nature.
Love cannot lead us to Nirvana! To attain Nirvana, we should *not love and neither should we hate anyone / anything!* We should neutralise our State of Mind, and Meditate from the center of our Souls.
help.... can you help me out. I am confused. I don't understand. I was brought up believing in god. but I have this strange is there really a god. didn't people use to believe there was alot of god's now people believe there is only one god. also all the different faiths. if there is a god shouldn't every one believe the same. another question. space goes on for ever so where is heaven. sorry don't mean to sound confused. but I just don't know. by the way I am subscribing to your channel. hope you can help me out.
Heaven is spiritual, it's not in the physical world. Which makes sense, as a kid I thought heaven was inside the sun because you couldn't get near it. But that was just be being a child.
Love isn't a matter of belief. Love is a emotion in the human mind. That's like asking. Do you believe in thoughts? Fear? Dreams? Association of ideas?
Name some. Quotes from a book (which don't agree with earlier quotes from the same book) or people referencing that book do not constitute evidence anymore than an old book review of Stephen King's The Tommyknockers provides evidence of UFOs.
Hi Hemant, I am thankful for your questions and responses. I am a Christian who is in constant pursuit of truth. I am struggling with one thing about your scientific response to love. How do these chemical(or hormonal) reactions begin? I know you could say an exterior stimulant could allow your limbic system to fire neurons. But how does that part of your brain know to fire? I think the same thinking could be applied to the cosmological argument. I am not a 7 day creationist. If you look at he original Hebrew Creation story the term "Yom" is used to describe a day or an unspecified period of time. The creation stories sequential events nearly line up of that in the big bang belief. Atheists struggle to answer what caused the initial atoms to expand. I would love to open up a conversation about these questions. Please feel free to message me and we can set up a time to chat.
The Athiest Voice, I'm not sure if you'll read this but what are your thoughts on the writings of jospheus/Titus (I can't think of the correct spelling for the first one) which are now widely known to be hoaxes?
Aristarchus was born in about 310 BC in Ancient Greece. He was the first person to propose that the earth and the other planets orbit the sun. He also said that the stars are much farther away than the planets. Most people ignored Aristarchus and continued to believe that the earth lies the center of the universe and that everything orbits our planet.Some people demanded that Aristarchus be put on trial for daring to say Earth is not at the center of the universe.Soon Aristarchus’s work was forgotten. It would stay forgotten for almost two millennia. There are many more examples of scientist who had theories that we today think are common sense but because it couldn't be proven this scientist and many other died thinking he was crazy and wrong. so because can't be proven now does it mean it's not true. can i prove God is real, well no thats why its called faith. what science and education period teaches us is how much we don't know. we get a little bit of knowledge and get arrogant and feel like we have learned something. it's a toss up. if I'm wrong I've lost nothing, what happens if you are? everything you do that is loving comes from the bible: mind your own business, bibles tells you that, golden rule, bible! be kind to strangers, bible! Morals is defined as principles of right and wrong behavior. so who is the ultimate judge of right and wrong? man is they say...so slavery was right, i mean man said he was right in his actions. that's stupid of course slavery was wrong, according to who? i have watched some of your videos they are just full of fallacies. you never say why you just pose a bunch of question that are open ended.
@@kooby122 that's exactly the point that he cannot say the Ultimate Why? All he says is that it exists, but he can never ever tell us why it has to exist?
I got a server for people like you called Refuge of the Damned, feel free to join, at the time of writing there are eight members, and if you'd add to our numbers I'd be honored/honoured: discord.gg/QHwCmy6
Hey man, I love your videos, but just one complaint: Not really your fault, but I think the use of the term "atheist" and "atheism" does some harm because it makes it seem as tho the default position is in fact a philosophy on its own. I know that is super picky, but I hope one day there will be no need for clarification of 'one who doesn't believe'. Rather, we will just talk about 'normal people' and 'believers'. Anyway, keep making vids!
Progressive Death Metal for me is the best.. bands like OPETH, or Between the buried and me. It's brutal, and it's about love too.. and the music is amazing
I'm not good at English, so please please pardon me for my bad English. First, I'm non religious theist, and I'm very happy for atheist social activities, and I support it. I'm Vietnamese who lived in Japan, and I want to support this great Channel and other atheism social activities, and talk to them, but as you know, I'm very far from you. Believe me atheist, I'm very sorry for you who are angry of suffered by religious of theist people or social activities. My view and mind differ from you, but I respect and love you. We all live in "This World", "material world", and we Human live "Here" together. This is "Reality", we must know, learn, recognize that, mustn't we ? I hope someday I can listen and talk to atheists, I believe we can learn and make good time and debate together. I LOVE you and everyone. Love to Japan, America, and the world. Thank you very much Mr. Mehta.
Ooh, actually there have been studies that say that the limbic system (the system responsible for rewarding feelings) is hyperstimulated in religious situations (going to a church, a temple, a mosque), almost to the same amount as someone who's an addict or an alcoholic. Which is also one reason why I think it is very difficult to completely disassociate oneself from religion.
Telagio has been hanging around this channel for a while whats the game plan are we ignoring him at this point or are we going to entertain his comments for a good laugh sometimes?
Love is like faith you don't see it but you feel it. So you believe in love because you feel it and you act that feeling, same with faith, we believe in God because we feel him and we act according to His words. I can now conclude, atheist doesn't really believe God doesn't exist but rather they haven't felt Him in their lives yet. Seek, my brother, and you will find Him.
To be honest, I think this is a fairly rational question for a believer to ask. The answer, of course, is yes. The reason is that, as mentioned in the video, we experience it, and we can see it in others. But, it is still not a fully rational question because a feeling is the same as claiming to know some supernatural reason for that feeling.
I'm an athiest.But i am fully surrounded by preachers all the time.I live in a country of rich diversity (India) Which has many Religions.With different perspectives.How can I prove them wrong?
I think you should learn and have morals and ethics by your own efforts. To be honest, I'm non religious theist, i agree that there is no material, scientific, real evidence god, I can't prove that. So, maybey I'm right something, or maybe I'm wrong totally. As you can see, 'Faith' is believing something without really evidence. You can't argue with them, except somebody like me. Love from Japan to you and India!
1. We know love exist because we see what people do. So your proof of the existence of love is based on the actions of other. So can I say your mum loves you because she cook for you and clean for your? And what about a chef who cook for your? or a paid profession who cleans your apartment. Do they love you? or even love you the same way your mum loves you? If you can say what your mum does is the proof of love. then why the same action done by different person is not the proof? Policeman would take a bullet for you to safe a live. Firefighters would risk their lives to safe you from burning buildings. And certainly they would feel awful if they fail to safe you from harm. Can we say they loves you the same your wife loves you?
Thank you for making your video. Wait so you can prove love exists because that was love does to people but can't put the same thinking for a deity. Because ultimately a relationship with a deity is something that changes and moves you as a human being. I am not willing for an argument but you ever said to someone who feel emotions for and said "I have chemical reactions towards you" the point I am trying to make is that by using the word love your using a word to explain something. I feel it boils down to language, the whole belief, religion, science, spirituality, is defeated by the fact we are trying to explain something that doesn't need language to explain. It's a relationship with your feeling regardless of whether you take other people experiences and knowledge into account, regardless if you identify with a scientific law or theory or whether you have a theological path of discussion. Just me and my ten cents.
It's because they hear believers say without their god love would not exist. That the love they witness only comes from and is only possible with a specific god. You don't ever actually show this or prove it some how though, just assert it over and over. At this point of course you would ask questions like this.
How do you go on uour daily life being a young atheist. I'm realy troubled by this fact. I'm still with my parents and they won't quit forcing stuff unto me. They already picked up on the fact that I don't have an interest in the religion, but they just mark it as me disobeying them.
Someone Out there you can believe what you want, your parents can't stop you from asking logical questions to yourself on what you've been taught as you've grown up. You don't have to tell them you're agnostic/ atheist if it will disappoint them or cause you to be punished. You believe what you want to believe, your parents can't tell you to not think logically. You can wait on telling them until you're out on your own. Best wishes in finding the answers on your journey :) - Brandon
he11b1ade I don't plan to indoctrinate them, my dad died just recently so I think my mom is coping up with that fact, with religion. I'm just looking for ways to keep myself from spilling my thoughts on to her, that might just end me in disownment.
My wife is a very "stern" Christian I am agnostic and having trouble finding the logic in being a straight forward atheist. We have three children I want to raise them open minded she wants them to be raised Christian. How do we compromise over this?
Let them choose what to believe. Even though a am a Christian... God gave us a choice and if we believe it or not he still loves us and mourns for us..
Love is a feeling, and we can all feel it, sometimes physically, sometimes mentally, ect.God is an idea, and some don't get it, or say they don't agree with itIt's not complicated, atheists can feel love too, even if they don't agree with your religion. (I hate it when people say love is a religion based thing. It's not. Also, I've experienced lots of hate, and you aren't supposed to hate with religion, according to my religious friends.)
Since when has love been measured in a lab? Proof please? How does love begin? Why does it begin? Is love just an emotion? Is it just a mix of chemicals in our brains? Why is love so manifestly different between individuals? What exactly is a ‘feeling’ and how can feelings be quantified? How long do emotions last? Can love exist without reciprocation? If so why and how is it different to love that is reciprocated? What is the point of love? What purpose does it serve? Is it essential? Can love be imagined? Can love be faked? Are we biologically predisposed to fall in love? Why do some people never find love? As the body ages and capabilities reduce does love reduce proportionally? Can love be demanded or commanded? Is there an intellectual component of love? How many senses is love dependant upon? Is one sense more important than another for love to work? How is love lost?
love is just serotonin oxytocin and adrenalin the reason why it is so different between individuals is BECAUSE it is just a chemical soup connected to our complex neuron system and not just a super natural force. Romantic love is to be accurate a invention of the romantic epoch...maybe youve heard of it if you went to ANY school. We feel love because it makes us social and being social was a huge advantage to survive. So there was a mutation that caused the production of those hormones in the very early stage of life. Not human. The same can be applied to any other feelings. Feeling embarrassed? Thats because you want to be accepted in a group or sociaty because if they throw you out you are not very likely to survive. Are you aggressive? Thats because being aggressive makes you dominant in a group so you are more likely to get the women.
I'm really enjoying your channel so far!!! I'd love videos on the topic of people who are "spiritual but not religious." I know MANY people who believes in some sort of higher power but it doesn't fit into any religious ideology, nor do they attend any sort of religious services. Or, their beliefs are sort of cherry picked from different religions or new age philosophies. Many it's a Colorado thing but it seems just about everyone I know fits into this category. I would absolutely love to hear your thoughts on this topic, or if you have any resources to direct me to. Thanks!!!
2. You mentioned the way we feel is the proof of love. Ok lets look at this aspect scientifically. Your body react to the environment by the amount of chemical and electrical signals circulating in your brain. So I think you and I can agreed that is the interpretation of our body. Here is the thing. You don't have to fall in love with someone to experience the feeling of love. A drug addict who pump large dose of dopamine into his body he would have the same feeling. Can we call that as love? If that is not the proof of love why not? Just because your bodily chemical react in certain ways. Why do you insist that is the proof of love?
There are many errors and contradictions in this video. He says atheists can experience love firsthand and don't have to rely on other people's words like religious experiences. I think that's strange for a couple of reasons. How many atheists rely on the words of Richard Dawkins, Lawrence Krauss, Stephen Hawking, Charles Darwin, etc. without having actual empirical data that any of their theories are true? First, all theists, aren't religious and the way people come to know the person of God is completely different than being introduced to the concept of God. This is not reliant on "other" people's words in the same way he asserts that the atheist can experience love. The question "Do atheists believe in love" isn't the right question. A better question would be "How can you explain what love is from an atheistic worldview"? See, atheist can answer that simply. God IS love. Therefore, from atheist perspective, love is NOT an emotion, emotions change according to stimuli. Love can better be described as more of a life energy that makes life worth living. That would be a more secular description. Using his example, if the feelings change or if behaviors change, then the love must not exist. This is not true according to a theistic perspective. We believe in something called agape love (look up greek terms for love) and that is a sacrificial love that is NON emotional. He tries to separate God from love and you can't unless you degrade and downgrade love to a mere idea or emotion. No, you can't measure love in a lab because love isn't a chemical it's the very essence that makes any person alive. Looking at a brain monitor gives no explanation for what love really is or why people have emotions in the first place. How can you explain emotions from an evolutionary perspective? You can't, you've just gotta say they came from evolution. Theistic explanation: We are made in God's image and God has emotions, so we have them. God is love, so we can love whether we believe in God or not.
Hello, recently i have been questioning my believe in god, but there are certain things that kinda let me stick to my believe that there might be a higher Existence. Why do we actually exist? How come that there are billions of universes we know nothing about of ? These are questions that exceed the Capacity of my Brain. And thats where in my Case in someway Faith takes over. Maybe you as an Atheist can explain your point of view to my questions why we exist?
Throughout History, science has explained phenomenons that used to be attributed to Gods. For example, the ancient Greek myths said that a giant was holding up the sky on his shoulder. Otherwise, how does it not fall on our heads? We've improved since then but we're still ignorant. To be an atheist is to accept that we don't know yet. We have to seek the answers by ourselves and challenge our beliefs using experimentation and logic.
Ok, here's one, and I need you to not look at it from a human-based perspective. Imagine a blind man who throws a dart in a room filled with a checkerboard pattern, and a sighted man says "the chances of you hitting that square are a hundred thousand to one, it must have had a divine motivation." That is what religion is. If you think of every way life could have ended up, yeah, there's only a tiny chance it would have been like this, but with so many possible outcomes each being equally unlikely, one is bound to happen. We are just the one that did. Another way to think of it is rolling a die six times in a row, now the chances of getting any combination in a certain order is equally (un)likely, but we would happen to consider some more significant, for example: six sixes, even though it's just as likely as a 5, 3, 6, 5, 1, 4 (in that order). In our case, this existence seems significant just because it is ours. As long as we see ourselves as a goal, we think existance is made for us, but when we realise we're that 1/100,000 tile then we realise this universe doesn't care. Make sense?
The real question for atheists is how what you do and what you plan to do in the future contributes to a fundamental change in your personality, character, etc.? In other words, did your actions make you feel complete purposefully and happily and why? Science cannot answer those questions because science does not know you, you know you and so does Jesus Christ God Almighty. You have to come to that realization on your own. These questions are also addressed in Ecclesiastes.
The reason they ask you this question is because in the bible 1 John 4:8 says that God is Love. So you technically believe in their God, but refuse to call it by its name.
Once again you have fallen for another Christian misconception. Ancient Hebrews viewed God as sitting on a throne above the earth and looking down. Many Old Testament passages allude to this belief. Jesus was aware of this misconception. Luke 17.21 When asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of God would come, Jesus replied, "The kingdom of God will not come with observable signs. Nor will people say, 'Look, here it is,' or 'There it is.' For you see, the kingdom of God is within you." John 14.10 Jesus said "Don't you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you I do not speak on my own authority. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work." You view God from without like an imaginary being such as Santa Claus. Yet, you don't realize that God is actually within. Your premise is already based on faulty understanding of God. As consequence, your conclusion is incomplete. I have to disagree with your statement that when people talk about God their not talking about how they feel in response. Have you ever met people who have had a spiritual experience? All they talk about is their feelings. There obviously is something which is effecting them from WITHIN. Love and God effect from within because love is God. The child that is saved is due to the parent allowing God to work through them. The parent does not own love, they possess it. They may not know that the love inside them is called God. That's besides the point. You may possess something I own and mistake it for yours, that doesn't nullify my ownership or my being. The problem is that people don't know what true love is for love is complex because God is complex. What you may mistake for love may in fact be deception. Likewise, what you may mistake for hatred may in fact be love. You may call yourself an atheist and yet be doing God's will, and not even know it. Likewise, you may call yourself a Christian and yet be doing the devil's will, and not even know it. For God like love cannot be defined or limited by labels. It is what it is regardless what you think, believe, or do.
What kind of question is that honestly? Do you believe in Love? Any person who has been born knows exactly what Love is and knows what it's like to experience it. We all experience it when we're infants from parents, Love comes in many forms it's such a complex subject. We got Beotherly Love, Romantic Love, Parent's Love and so on. As a Christian it's ignorant to accuse a non believer of not having Love, like you don't even know them and to make false accusations against someone is slander. This whole argument between both sides about who's more loving isn't going to go anywhere if both sides cannot reach an understanding of one another's points. To be honest with all of you, I can't force you in my faith that's not why I'm here. It's my purpose just to bring you the message and that's it. It's up to you, nothing I can do to force you. As someone who's battled depression and anxiety. And nearly lost his life to deep sadness I can tell you that a higher power does exist because I was a non believer too at one point. I made fun of Christians and I was wrong to do so. Christianity is a spiritual faith and comes from Judaism. Every person who wrote the books in the bible were all Jewish. I'm not Jewish at all, I'm a gentile. In fact you could call Christianity, Messianic Judaism if you wanted to because that's what basically Christianity technically is. Jewish religion nowadays and Christianity believe the same God YWHW but are very different in many ways. Anyway I understand you don't read the bible but did you read it with a open mind when you have it a short look? And why do you criticize a God you truly believe doesn't exist? I mean what's the point? Christianity isn't going to be gone ever my friend. No matter what you say. I hope I didn't ramble too long. My apologies.
Was about to like you comment until read the false accusations that atheist never read the bible. So i will just say same as you atheism isn't going to be gone ever my friend. No matter what you say. We have all right to hold opinions as much as you do
Im 26 and i've been madly in love a couple times, now the memories just hurt so much that i don't want to feel anything, the pain festers and keeps annoying, i wouldn't even want to touch love with a 10 foot pole these days, it hurts, but i believe in love because i know it's real, even if it's not a "reality" for me anymore, so screw everyone who says otherwise.
you completely screwed up your argument for the sentimental answer, I wouldn't be surprised if someone would take a bullet for their "god." literally, the arguments you used for it align with that of religious people defending their respective religion. Non-sentimental answer was meh. end part was good, should have kept that only
Hi Hemant. You always ask for suggestions at the end so here is one. I would love to see a video on your thoughts about how the future of atheists vs theists will be seeing as how we have this absurd constitutional right to practice religion. No matter what you can do to disprove theists, they will have that right to practice their religion. Do you believe in actually trying to change our constitution? Or do you think it is possible to just let it fade out naturally? Would be interesting to hear your thought, thanks.
This is a fairly obvious straw man. When people ask atheists questions such as "Do you believe in love?" they do so because most (or at least, many) atheists are physicalists. They maintain the view that all that exists is the physical world. However, if that's the case, "love" is nothing more than (something like) the synapses in one's brain firing in such a way that it brings about a love-like feeling. But everything that happens in the brain, and every "loving" action the brain produces is nothing but the result of of the laws of physics playing themselves out. You can call that process "love" if you want, but on this view, your brain, your conscious experience, and everything you ever do is just one part of the giant Rube Goldberg Machine that is the universe. That said, this contrasts with traditional, and common sense notion of love that entails things like a will, (objective) value, etc.
Baby, don't hurt me... don't hurt me...
No more.
What is love
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I've heard this so many times. Thanks for making this!
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Do theists believe in logic?
Yes, they do. They believe in *their* logic which is absolutely illogical in most cases, e. g. "Oh, science can't explain how non-living matter came into being, ergo God did it. Checkmate, atheists."
Stefan B. Study some science and say that again 😂
Manuwan Peramunugama Say what again? That theists' logic is absolutely illogical in most cases or that science can't explain how non-living matter came into being? If you know how non-living matter came into being, tell me, please. In case you didn't notice, there are quotation marks in my last comment for a reason.
Stefan B. Here come theists again with their God of the gaps fallacy.
Yes make a video with this as the title
These kinda questions are just insane....how dumb are some theists?
Patrick Bateman all theists*
Yellow Submarine watch out for triggernauts.
Patrick Bateman Well, they're theists, so we start from there...
Yellow Submarine, what about deists?
Diego Linares, deists are cool. They don't make stupid chioices
When I first saw the title in my notifications my first thought was "What the actual fuck?".
Yea, mine too
TikiDragon1 right?
I'm a Christian and I never thought atheists don't believe in love we all do
I like this atheist guy he has so many interesting things to say
What is love and is it really all you need?
PaleGhost69 Love is the feeling resulting from a series of chemical reactions. Love while unprotected in a hard vacuum or several hundred feet under water is probably not all you need, despite John's assertion to the contrary.
PaleGhost69, Apparently the Beatles think so...
Baby, don't hurt me.
Love is just a chemical reaction that compels animals to breed.
-Rick Sanchez.
I hear it's a secondhand emotion.
Love is just a chemical reaction inside your mind!
Sage Savage *I disagree. I prefer to call "love" the actions one takes after the chemical reactions wear off. (which happens in between six months to a year.)*
B well... no. Yeah its true that the original mad rush of chemicals causing infatuation wear off, there are still lingering chemicals that cause you to stay with that person. It is a choice, but just like with every decision we have ever made chemicals ultimately influence and decide that choice.
B So by your definition divorce is an action taken by love?
Sage Savage, that's true
B Love an action one takes after the chemicals wear off.... divorce is one of those actions if they get married before that time period.
The fact that theists can even ask these questions with a straight face honestly terrifies me.
Because it honestly speaks more of them than it does of me. Are they saying if they didn't believe in 'god' they wouldn't love someone?
That alone implies they don't care about love or being good, they just wanna score brownie points with the big bad Mafia boss in the clouds.
And that is neither altruistic or compassionate. In all due honesty, they do it because they're commanded to, not because they want to-they'd rather not do the job, but hey, they HAVE to, or they believe they,ll get flogged for not doing it.
And that's just immoral... No. Not just immoral. It's outright cowardly. It's the most shameless form of suck-up in my eyes, and I have no respect for people who indulge in it.
TL:DR
Theists have no morals, just rules, are craven to the extreme, and don't have any capacity for love, empathy or altruism. It's just an act and they fail miserably at pretending they actually give a fuck about others so long as they can get their fix.
The sheer selfishness of it all makes me want to puke.
Fiend Matador Slayer of a Thousand Noobs agreed so much with this statement
No. Theists can ask this question with a straight face because they have a diametrically opposing worldview from you where God IS love and where love is not a mere emotion. Emotions change due to stimuli, but love is eternal. Love supersedes feelings. Love creates. No, belief in God isn't what enables a person to love, because we believe that God IS love and everything he does is love including creating us in his image, hence our ability to love. So, simply because one does not accept the existence of God doesn't change the fact that they are his creation and made in his image so whether one believes in God or not, they have the capacity to love. It's just interesting to hear the explanation of it manipulated from an atheist worldview.
How can you love your fellow human beings , them being not perfect , and not love Jesus , him being perfect ?
Get off of your self righteous , bigoted , holier than thou high horse and stop judging people just because they believe in God .
Stop putting down people who are different than you .
Are you anti - Christian ?
Deal with it , we Christians are first class citizens and you are not above us .
Dan Barker , Annie Gaylor and Christopher Hitchens and their anti - Christian , anti - American bigotry do not in any way represent my atheist friends .
One of my female atheist friends finds Annie Laurie Gaylor sick and appalling .
*Love is the actions one takes after the infatuation has worn off. Love is the beautiful actions one does for another even if they don't feel like doing it. Love isn't a feeling, but a choice.*
B It is a feeling actually
Nelson Mandela *That's infatuation.*
B no i think you're confused
Nelson Mandela *Elaborate.*
B Alright. Love is an emotion, a chemically induced emotion. Hence it is a feeling. It doesnt matter what the external circumstances or situations are.
When they make this comparison, they are conflating their belief with the object of their belief. We can compare/study love like we can compare/study belief, but belief in something doesn't prove its existence.
And to not believe in something doesn't prove it's nonexistence.
Why would you believe in a book written over hundreds and hundreds of years ago, my response is do you believe that Columbus sailed to South America just because it was written in a book hundreds and hundreds of years ago. You weren't there and neither was I, so who's to say it never happened.
Yes. Yes, we do.
Just because we don’t believe in god doesn’t mean we don’t have feelings );
To be fair, Christians and Muslims define "love" as the thing the invisible guy in the sky has for us, despite being willing to sentence us to eternal torment and suffering for the slightest infractions or sign of doubt... so I'm not sure we're all on the same page about what constitutes "love".
You can’t know what a Christian thinks love is if ur not a Christian just like a Christian can’t know what a atheist thinks love is
Absolutely wrong. I can know exactly what a Christian thinks love is because they state it over and over and over again, and unlike say a fish describing what it's like to breath and I can never understand because I'm not a fish, a Christian and an Atheist are both human beings using a common language to describe a shared experience of which both are capable.
So when a Christan says Jesus is love, and Jesus is God, and God is unchanging, and God hates gays, and God demands the first born of everything, including humans, be sacrificed to him because it all belongs to him, I can clearly understand love, hate, sacrifice, ownership. I know what all these things mean, Christians don't get a special pass to some deeper level of understanding, if anything it's the opposite; if a Christian claims the god of the bible loves us all while committing atrocities against us (or demanding that we commit atrocities against each other in his name), clearly THEY are the ones failing to understand the meaning of love. The concept of love long predates Christ, they don't get to change the definition to suit their perverted purpose.
Thomas Binney well 1. God doesn’t hate anyone, ya gays aren’t going to heaven but if they accept the Holy Spirit in their heart then they will forgive them and they can go to heaven because God will love them, that is love, God is love. Sending his son to die on the cross for us and suffering what he did. Is that not love, giving your life for someone. I’m a Christian and I love everyone, I would die for you but the only reason I would do that is because jesus and I know where I am going. I’m not trying to argue with you or say u r wrong because ur beliefs are your beliefs and I have mine, but I wouldn’t be happy or love as much as I do without God that’s why Christians say God is love
Thomas Binney and God doesn’t demand sacrifice that was only in the Old Testament before jesus died for our sins
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quote: "Thomas Binney and God doesn’t demand sacrifice that was only in the Old Testament before jesus died for our sins"
So in other words, god DID demand human sacrifices, up until he sent his son to be sacrificed. And his son had to die to keep us from going to hell, a punishment that never existed before Jesus. So before Jesus the worst that would happen is that you would die and stay dead, but after Jesus you get to suffer eternal torture. Remind me again why Jesus is supposed to be good for us? According to Jesus, to have any hope of obtaining heaven, you have to keep the Law better than the most pious priest, something NO modern day Christian does, so by your own god's words, you're all going to hell... which means we still don't get any rest from your complaining.
A better question would be do Republicans believe in love? It sure doesn't show in their policies.
ohh snap
My World Religions professor claims that we can’t explain love with just chemicals and no one had ever discovered why we feel love. In response, I emailed him an article detailing possible ways love evolved and how we can observe love as chemical reactions in the brain. To which he responded, “But that’s not love, that’s just chemicals! Love isn’t chemicals!”
"Love is the feeling caused by those chemicals, if I injected those chemicals in to you, you would feel it."
Are you saying all relationship problems could be solved by giving people dopamine supplementation therapy? Why has this not happened years ago? Is it just possible that there is a little bit more to the story than just brain chemicals?
"Are you saying all relationship problems could be solved by giving people dopamine supplementation therapy? Why has this not happened years ago?"
I mean, we probably could if we wanted to. We already have drugs that correct hormonal imbalances fro people with depression. But we'd need to do a lot more research into it. Your question is kind of like asking, "Why haven't we discovered the cure to cancer years ago?" Scientific discovery isn't a loading bar that takes a set number of years to advance. It can happen very quickly or very slowly.
"Is it just possible that there is a little bit more to the story than just brain chemicals?"
Sure. It's also possible that a god exists, but that possibility is so slim that it isn't even worth considering. Nothing we have observed in any way suggests that our emotions are anything but chemically based responses to stimuli. If you have something to suggest otherwise, please present your evidence.
Okay, I hear you. However, at the end of the day Love is no different to other chemical reactions within our universe. Its just that, an impulse that is dictated by whatever environmental pressure you are faced with. To say that love is demonstrated through the actions of how others treat each other, still does not justify the concept of love. The justification for why that should be the desired outcome cannot be explained through materialism. The world view has reduced it and given it no value. An atheist who try to shape their arguments behind the philosophy of value is to me dishonest. How can value be derived from the perception of blind, accidental forces of chance? And by the way to save you guys from straw manning me, I am NOT saying atheists cannot love but merely pointing out what is to me inconsistencies of what the atheistic world view offers.
"God is love" proceeds to burn people in hell for eternity for not believing in him or following him.
Love isn’t just a feeling. You may not always have that “chemical reaction” around your spouse. But no matter what happens, you still lose them. You choose it. Those reactions can be defined as something else like passion.
As an ex catholic I get why so many theists think that atheists don’t believe in love. When I was a catholic I was taught that God is love so basically when you say “I don’t believe in God” they make the association God == love therefore “I don’t believe in God” == “I don’t believe in love”
No dislikes from salty fairy tale believers yet
Yellow Submarine don't worry, I didn't dislike
Btw long time no see
Chloe lol hi
Chloe you're fine i know you're not salty at least lmao
No shortage of likes from people who are deceived.
Atheist love is a purer form of love that’s freeing and more truthful. But that’s also assuming the atheist in question values ethics.
why is a ad on my phone
it a bible to download
why
God is sending you a sign. *wink wink*
A very relevant comparison between feelings of love and religion is that both may be the result of seduction, meaning that it is not a two-way sentiment. It is even possible to induce the emotion in someone for an object of love/belief without the object existing as more than seducing words.
Yes we believe in Love hate and we have morals and values and the best Logical Thinking.
German Pepe Very interesting point of view.
"The best logical thinking" you're putting yourself on a pedestal. Well, mass and energy to create an entire universe so vast that nobody can even
Imagine past it, must've come from somewhere? Where did it come from? Was there a universe before? And if so...where did that one come from? If not, again, where did the energy and mass come from? If you have the most logic, why is your belief only considered a theory? And if you don't know, than how are you all the most logical thinkers?
Yeah I still do that
Because the truth is, even if it was yesterday, or 1,000 years ago, humans are repeating everything all the time so we put ourselves in these cycles.
Atheists can’t have morals. All you have to do is focus on your survival in favor of natural selection. If you believe in morals, you are no atheist. Atheism is logic and only logic. You are a believer of the morals you hold. A Christian, for example, identifies as one because of the unique set of beliefs which he believes constitutes morality. If you want morals, then go live in the world full of unicorns and fairy tails of theists.
Love has nothing to do with God.
If you're an atheist, why do you care about love in the first place? I have never understood why not all true Atheists are not nihilists as well.
What on earth even is a true atheist if atheism is just about not believing in any god?
@@zeke179 "True atheists" are those who came to their realization of non-belief through actual study and work at analyzing everything they could on religion and theology and comparing that to science and logic and reason. The rest are just the ones who had an irrational reason for not liking something about the idea of "God" or "going to church" or things of that nature.
because my family means a lot to me? because i want to have a strong bond with the people around me??
Love cannot lead us to Nirvana! To attain Nirvana, we should *not love and neither should we hate anyone / anything!* We should neutralise our State of Mind, and Meditate from the center of our Souls.
Shut up.
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help.... can you help me out. I am confused. I don't understand. I was brought up believing in god. but I have this strange is there really a god. didn't people use to believe there was alot of god's now people believe there is only one god. also all the different faiths. if there is a god shouldn't every one believe the same. another question. space goes on for ever so where is heaven. sorry don't mean to sound confused. but I just don't know. by the way I am subscribing to your channel. hope you can help me out.
Heaven is spiritual, it's not in the physical world. Which makes sense, as a kid I thought heaven was inside the sun because you couldn't get near it. But that was just be being a child.
Love isn't a matter of belief. Love is a emotion in the human mind. That's like asking. Do you believe in thoughts? Fear? Dreams? Association of ideas?
Can you do a vidio on why the evidence for the resurection isn't enough
no name Evidence would be enough... there isn't any.
There is evidence though
There must be because people like David wood used to be athiest but then studied the evidence and the bible and is now christian
Name some. Quotes from a book (which don't agree with earlier quotes from the same book) or people referencing that book do not constitute evidence anymore than an old book review of Stephen King's The Tommyknockers provides evidence of UFOs.
Ok but I would still be greatfull if he could do a vidio on it because there is conniving evidence for jesus' resurection
Hi Hemant,
I am thankful for your questions and responses. I am a Christian who is in constant pursuit of truth.
I am struggling with one thing about your scientific response to love. How do these chemical(or hormonal) reactions begin? I know you could say an exterior stimulant could allow your limbic system to fire neurons. But how does that part of your brain know to fire?
I think the same thinking could be applied to the cosmological argument. I am not a 7 day creationist. If you look at he original Hebrew Creation story the term "Yom" is used to describe a day or an unspecified period of time. The creation stories sequential events nearly line up of that in the big bang belief. Atheists struggle to answer what caused the initial atoms to expand.
I would love to open up a conversation about these questions. Please feel free to message me and we can set up a time to chat.
What do you mean when you said (believe)?
Do you agree with “love your enemies” and “do good to those who do not do good to you”?
The Athiest Voice,
I'm not sure if you'll read this but what are your thoughts on the writings of jospheus/Titus (I can't think of the correct spelling for the first one) which are now widely known to be hoaxes?
Aristarchus was born in about 310 BC in Ancient Greece. He was the first person to propose that the earth and the other planets orbit the sun. He also said that the stars are much farther away than the planets. Most people ignored Aristarchus and continued to believe that the earth lies the center of the universe and that everything orbits our planet.Some people demanded that Aristarchus be put on trial for daring to say Earth is not at the center of the universe.Soon Aristarchus’s work was forgotten. It would stay forgotten for almost two millennia. There are many more examples of scientist who had theories that we today think are common sense but because it couldn't be proven this scientist and many other died thinking he was crazy and wrong. so because can't be proven now does it mean it's not true. can i prove God is real, well no thats why its called faith. what science and education period teaches us is how much we don't know. we get a little bit of knowledge and get arrogant and feel like we have learned something. it's a toss up. if I'm wrong I've lost nothing, what happens if you are? everything you do that is loving comes from the bible: mind your own business, bibles tells you that, golden rule, bible! be kind to strangers, bible! Morals is defined as principles of right and wrong behavior. so who is the ultimate judge of right and wrong? man is they say...so slavery was right, i mean man said he was right in his actions. that's stupid of course slavery was wrong, according to who? i have watched some of your videos they are just full of fallacies. you never say why you just pose a bunch of question that are open ended.
A simple "why" would bring your perception crumbling?
He discussed this at 0:31
@@kooby122 that's exactly the point that he cannot say the Ultimate Why? All he says is that it exists, but he can never ever tell us why it has to exist?
This is like asking religious people if they believe in thought
Love is a fact, not a belief
How to make a UA-cam video?
Hello, i am a guy from in iran, and i'm an atheist............. iran fyi, is a country.... where atheism.... is totally illegal........... plz help
I got a server for people like you called Refuge of the Damned, feel free to join, at the time of writing there are eight members, and if you'd add to our numbers I'd be honored/honoured: discord.gg/QHwCmy6
Hey man, I love your videos, but just one complaint:
Not really your fault, but I think the use of the term "atheist" and "atheism" does some harm because it makes it seem as tho the default position is in fact a philosophy on its own.
I know that is super picky, but I hope one day there will be no need for clarification of 'one who doesn't believe'. Rather, we will just talk about 'normal people' and 'believers'.
Anyway, keep making vids!
Do you believe in loving brutal death metal?
He better do or else he spends his after life in Heaven.
DSBM is the master race, and NSBM is super awesome.
I actually do believe in loving brutal death metal, It caresses my ears like a nice serenade
Progressive Death Metal for me is the best.. bands like OPETH, or Between the buried and me. It's brutal, and it's about love too.. and the music is amazing
I'm not good at English, so please please pardon me for my bad English.
First, I'm non religious theist, and I'm very happy for atheist social activities, and I support it.
I'm Vietnamese who lived in Japan, and I want to support this great Channel and other atheism social activities, and talk to them, but as you know, I'm very far from you.
Believe me atheist, I'm very sorry for you who are angry of suffered by religious of theist people or social activities. My view and mind differ from you, but I respect and love you.
We all live in "This World", "material world", and we Human live "Here" together. This is "Reality", we must know, learn, recognize that, mustn't we ?
I hope someday I can listen and talk to atheists, I believe we can learn and make good time and debate together. I LOVE you and everyone. Love to Japan, America, and the world.
Thank you very much Mr. Mehta.
Ha Ngoc Minh nice to see a religious person not spewing hatred and keeping an open mind 😊
Thank you, thank you. I try to keep open my mind and understand other people.
Thank you for not being rude about it and saying Christianity is dumb... I'm a Christian and I'm glad you are being open minded about us.
Ooh, actually there have been studies that say that the limbic system (the system responsible for rewarding feelings) is hyperstimulated in religious situations (going to a church, a temple, a mosque), almost to the same amount as someone who's an addict or an alcoholic.
Which is also one reason why I think it is very difficult to completely disassociate oneself from religion.
good point, i recalled reading those studies as well.
G. J. : Minister of The Lord Jesus Christ Thanks, I guess? Also, those sound like testimonials of mentally instable human beings.
"Do Atheists Believe in Love?".
I don't know them all but I can say with 100% certainty: Not all of them.
Telagio has been hanging around this channel for a while whats the game plan are we ignoring him at this point or are we going to entertain his comments for a good laugh sometimes?
Some people seem to forget that their god created people who physicalogicly do not have a conscience. .
I would LOVE to watch a debate between you and Ben sharpio about religion
can i ask why you NEED evidence
Love is like faith you don't see it but you feel it. So you believe in love because you feel it and you act that feeling, same with faith, we believe in God because we feel him and we act according to His words. I can now conclude, atheist doesn't really believe God doesn't exist but rather they haven't felt Him in their lives yet. Seek, my brother, and you will find Him.
An atheist would cry when his/her mother died. That's a sign of love.
Hye,please make video that feeling after death, are these is no sprits exists after death
Your vid was better than I expected like always, keep up the perfect work
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No, I do not believe in love.
To be honest, I think this is a fairly rational question for a believer to ask. The answer, of course, is yes. The reason is that, as mentioned in the video, we experience it, and we can see it in others.
But, it is still not a fully rational question because a feeling is the same as claiming to know some supernatural reason for that feeling.
Dude, you should do a collab with Viced rhino
The one thing I had worked out is that to make people associate GoD with Energy,matter,Time.Than idols and miracles.
I'm an athiest.But i am fully surrounded by preachers all the time.I live in a country of rich diversity (India) Which has many Religions.With different perspectives.How can I prove them wrong?
I think you should learn and have morals and ethics by your own efforts.
To be honest, I'm non religious theist, i agree that there is no material, scientific, real evidence god, I can't prove that.
So, maybey I'm right something, or maybe I'm wrong totally.
As you can see, 'Faith' is believing something without really evidence. You can't argue with them, except somebody like me.
Love from Japan to you and India!
Then why can't I find love?
Non Religious people believe in LOVE too !
1. We know love exist because we see what people do. So your proof of the existence of love is based on the actions of other. So can I say your mum loves you because she cook for you and clean for your? And what about a chef who cook for your? or a paid profession who cleans your apartment. Do they love you? or even love you the same way your mum loves you? If you can say what your mum does is the proof of love. then why the same action done by different person is not the proof? Policeman would take a bullet for you to safe a live. Firefighters would risk their lives to safe you from burning buildings. And certainly they would feel awful if they fail to safe you from harm. Can we say they loves you the same your wife loves you?
Thank you for making your video.
Wait so you can prove love exists because that was love does to people but can't put the same thinking for a deity. Because ultimately a relationship with a deity is something that changes and moves you as a human being.
I am not willing for an argument but you ever said to someone who feel emotions for and said "I have chemical reactions towards you" the point I am trying to make is that by using the word love your using a word to explain something.
I feel it boils down to language, the whole belief, religion, science, spirituality, is defeated by the fact we are trying to explain something that doesn't need language to explain. It's a relationship with your feeling regardless of whether you take other people experiences and knowledge into account, regardless if you identify with a scientific law or theory or whether you have a theological path of discussion.
Just me and my ten cents.
My question still hasn't been answered...
I got a religious ad before the vid
There's another thing what Religious people says, "Atheists don't Have Friendship"
You can’t prove love you can only prove care….. which isn’t love
It's because they hear believers say without their god love would not exist. That the love they witness only comes from and is only possible with a specific god. You don't ever actually show this or prove it some how though, just assert it over and over. At this point of course you would ask questions like this.
Love is feeling another's pain, and feeling another's happiness.
How do you go on uour daily life being a young atheist. I'm realy troubled by this fact. I'm still with my parents and they won't quit forcing stuff unto me. They already picked up on the fact that I don't have an interest in the religion, but they just mark it as me disobeying them.
Someone Out there you can believe what you want, your parents can't stop you from asking logical questions to yourself on what you've been taught as you've grown up. You don't have to tell them you're agnostic/ atheist if it will disappoint them or cause you to be punished. You believe what you want to believe, your parents can't tell you to not think logically. You can wait on telling them until you're out on your own. Best wishes in finding the answers on your journey :) - Brandon
Yellow Submarine thanks mate
he11b1ade I don't plan to indoctrinate them, my dad died just recently so I think my mom is coping up with that fact, with religion. I'm just looking for ways to keep myself from spilling my thoughts on to her, that might just end me in disownment.
Hi! I watch your videos.. Can you make a videos the disprovement of supernatural? *im kind of confused about the people who feel supernatural things*
My wife is a very "stern" Christian I am agnostic and having trouble finding the logic in being a straight forward atheist. We have three children I want to raise them open minded she wants them to be raised Christian. How do we compromise over this?
Let your kids watch this: ua-cam.com/video/4zZytbe1a9s/v-deo.html
Just make them understand that sometimes adults can be wrong too.
Let them choose what to believe. Even though a am a Christian... God gave us a choice and if we believe it or not he still loves us and mourns for us..
I don't particularly believe in the typical idea of love.
Love is a feeling, and we can all feel it, sometimes physically, sometimes mentally, ect.God is an idea, and some don't get it, or say they don't agree with itIt's not complicated, atheists can feel love too, even if they don't agree with your religion. (I hate it when people say love is a religion based thing. It's not. Also, I've experienced lots of hate, and you aren't supposed to hate with religion, according to my religious friends.)
Since when has love been measured in a lab? Proof please? How does love begin? Why does it begin? Is love just an emotion? Is it just a mix of chemicals in our brains? Why is love so manifestly different between individuals? What exactly is a ‘feeling’ and how can feelings be quantified? How long do emotions last? Can love exist without reciprocation? If so why and how is it different to love that is reciprocated? What is the point of love? What purpose does it serve? Is it essential? Can love be imagined? Can love be faked? Are we biologically predisposed to fall in love? Why do some people never find love? As the body ages and capabilities reduce does love reduce proportionally? Can love be demanded or commanded? Is there an intellectual component of love? How many senses is love dependant upon? Is one sense more important than another for love to work? How is love lost?
love is just serotonin oxytocin and adrenalin
the reason why it is so different between individuals is BECAUSE it is just a chemical soup connected to our complex neuron system and not just a super natural force.
Romantic love is to be accurate a invention of the romantic epoch...maybe youve heard of it if you went to ANY school. We feel love because it makes us social and being social was a huge advantage to survive. So there was a mutation that caused the production of those hormones in the very early stage of life. Not human.
The same can be applied to any other feelings. Feeling embarrassed? Thats because you want to be accepted in a group or sociaty because if they throw you out you are not very likely to survive. Are you aggressive? Thats because being aggressive makes you dominant in a group so you are more likely to get the women.
I absolutely love this guy. I wish he would do more videos.
I don’t he is wrong on so many things hope he understands that
Hello Hemant! Big fan…funny observation. Maybe bring an set set of shirts for each video. ;-)
I'm really enjoying your channel so far!!! I'd love videos on the topic of people who are "spiritual but not religious." I know MANY people who believes in some sort of higher power but it doesn't fit into any religious ideology, nor do they attend any sort of religious services. Or, their beliefs are sort of cherry picked from different religions or new age philosophies. Many it's a Colorado thing but it seems just about everyone I know fits into this category. I would absolutely love to hear your thoughts on this topic, or if you have any resources to direct me to. Thanks!!!
2. You mentioned the way we feel is the proof of love. Ok lets look at this aspect scientifically. Your body react to the environment by the amount of chemical and electrical signals circulating in your brain. So I think you and I can agreed that is the interpretation of our body. Here is the thing. You don't have to fall in love with someone to experience the feeling of love. A drug addict who pump large dose of dopamine into his body he would have the same feeling. Can we call that as love? If that is not the proof of love why not? Just because your bodily chemical react in certain ways. Why do you insist that is the proof of love?
There are many errors and contradictions in this video. He says atheists can experience love firsthand and don't have to rely on other people's words like religious experiences. I think that's strange for a couple of reasons. How many atheists rely on the words of Richard Dawkins, Lawrence Krauss, Stephen Hawking, Charles Darwin, etc. without having actual empirical data that any of their theories are true? First, all theists, aren't religious and the way people come to know the person of God is completely different than being introduced to the concept of God. This is not reliant on "other" people's words in the same way he asserts that the atheist can experience love. The question "Do atheists believe in love" isn't the right question. A better question would be "How can you explain what love is from an atheistic worldview"? See, atheist can answer that simply. God IS love. Therefore, from atheist perspective, love is NOT an emotion, emotions change according to stimuli. Love can better be described as more of a life energy that makes life worth living. That would be a more secular description. Using his example, if the feelings change or if behaviors change, then the love must not exist. This is not true according to a theistic perspective. We believe in something called agape love (look up greek terms for love) and that is a sacrificial love that is NON emotional. He tries to separate God from love and you can't unless you degrade and downgrade love to a mere idea or emotion. No, you can't measure love in a lab because love isn't a chemical it's the very essence that makes any person alive. Looking at a brain monitor gives no explanation for what love really is or why people have emotions in the first place. How can you explain emotions from an evolutionary perspective? You can't, you've just gotta say they came from evolution. Theistic explanation: We are made in God's image and God has emotions, so we have them. God is love, so we can love whether we believe in God or not.
Hello, recently i have been questioning my believe in god, but there are certain things that kinda let me stick to my believe that there might be a higher Existence. Why do we actually exist? How come that there are billions of universes we know nothing about of ? These are questions that exceed the Capacity of my Brain. And thats where in my Case in someway Faith takes over. Maybe you as an Atheist can explain your point of view to my questions why we exist?
Throughout History, science has explained phenomenons that used to be attributed to Gods. For example, the ancient Greek myths said that a giant was holding up the sky on his shoulder. Otherwise, how does it not fall on our heads?
We've improved since then but we're still ignorant. To be an atheist is to accept that we don't know yet. We have to seek the answers by ourselves and challenge our beliefs using experimentation and logic.
Ok, here's one, and I need you to not look at it from a human-based perspective. Imagine a blind man who throws a dart in a room filled with a checkerboard pattern, and a sighted man says "the chances of you hitting that square are a hundred thousand to one, it must have had a divine motivation." That is what religion is. If you think of every way life could have ended up, yeah, there's only a tiny chance it would have been like this, but with so many possible outcomes each being equally unlikely, one is bound to happen. We are just the one that did.
Another way to think of it is rolling a die six times in a row, now the chances of getting any combination in a certain order is equally (un)likely, but we would happen to consider some more significant, for example: six sixes, even though it's just as likely as a 5, 3, 6, 5, 1, 4 (in that order). In our case, this existence seems significant just because it is ours.
As long as we see ourselves as a goal, we think existance is made for us, but when we realise we're that 1/100,000 tile then we realise this universe doesn't care. Make sense?
Consider my points individually, k? 😄
The real question for atheists is how what you do and what you plan to do in the future contributes to a fundamental change in your personality, character, etc.? In other words, did your actions make you feel complete purposefully and happily and why? Science cannot answer those questions because science does not know you, you know you and so does Jesus Christ God Almighty. You have to come to that realization on your own. These questions are also addressed in Ecclesiastes.
The reason they ask you this question is because in the bible 1 John 4:8 says that God is Love. So you technically believe in their God, but refuse to call it by its name.
After I watched this video it played a religious ad. UA-cam really needs to work on its targeted ad system.
Once again you have fallen for another Christian misconception. Ancient Hebrews viewed God as sitting on a throne above the earth and looking down. Many Old Testament passages allude to this belief. Jesus was aware of this misconception.
Luke 17.21 When asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of God would come, Jesus replied, "The kingdom of God will not come with observable signs. Nor will people say, 'Look, here it is,' or 'There it is.' For you see, the kingdom of God is within you."
John 14.10 Jesus said "Don't you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you I do not speak on my own authority. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work."
You view God from without like an imaginary being such as Santa Claus. Yet, you don't realize that God is actually within. Your premise is already based on faulty understanding of God. As consequence, your conclusion is incomplete.
I have to disagree with your statement that when people talk about God their not talking about how they feel in response. Have you ever met people who have had a spiritual experience? All they talk about is their feelings. There obviously is something which is effecting them from WITHIN.
Love and God effect from within because love is God. The child that is saved is due to the parent allowing God to work through them. The parent does not own love, they possess it. They may not know that the love inside them is called God. That's besides the point. You may possess something I own and mistake it for yours, that doesn't nullify my ownership or my being.
The problem is that people don't know what true love is for love is complex because God is complex. What you may mistake for love may in fact be deception. Likewise, what you may mistake for hatred may in fact be love. You may call yourself an atheist and yet be doing God's will, and not even know it. Likewise, you may call yourself a Christian and yet be doing the devil's will, and not even know it.
For God like love cannot be defined or limited by labels. It is what it is regardless what you think, believe, or do.
Yes.
What kind of question is that honestly? Do you believe in Love? Any person who has been born knows exactly what Love is and knows what it's like to experience it. We all experience it when we're infants from parents, Love comes in many forms it's such a complex subject. We got Beotherly Love, Romantic Love, Parent's Love and so on. As a Christian it's ignorant to accuse a non believer of not having Love, like you don't even know them and to make false accusations against someone is slander.
This whole argument between both sides about who's more loving isn't going to go anywhere if both sides cannot reach an understanding of one another's points. To be honest with all of you, I can't force you in my faith that's not why I'm here. It's my purpose just to bring you the message and that's it. It's up to you, nothing I can do to force you.
As someone who's battled depression and anxiety. And nearly lost his life to deep sadness I can tell you that a higher power does exist because I was a non believer too at one point. I made fun of Christians and I was wrong to do so. Christianity is a spiritual faith and comes from Judaism. Every person who wrote the books in the bible were all Jewish.
I'm not Jewish at all, I'm a gentile. In fact you could call Christianity, Messianic Judaism if you wanted to because that's what basically Christianity technically is. Jewish religion nowadays and Christianity believe the same God YWHW but are very different in many ways.
Anyway I understand you don't read the bible but did you read it with a open mind when you have it a short look? And why do you criticize a God you truly believe doesn't exist? I mean what's the point? Christianity isn't going to be gone ever my friend. No matter what you say. I hope I didn't ramble too long. My apologies.
Was about to like you comment until read the false accusations that atheist never read the bible.
So i will just say same as you atheism isn't going to be gone ever my friend.
No matter what you say.
We have all right to hold opinions as much as you do
"Love is just a trick played upon us by evolution..." TH White
That's not what I think of when I think of love.
I Only Believe In Myself
My mum and dad are married and atheists, I have a few crushes and am an atheist, I've loved I've cried
Religious guy: Nooooo way
Im 26 and i've been madly in love a couple times, now the memories just hurt so much that i don't want to feel anything, the pain festers and keeps annoying, i wouldn't even want to touch love with a 10 foot pole these days, it hurts, but i believe in love because i know it's real, even if it's not a "reality" for me anymore, so screw everyone who says otherwise.
What make you smile - - Make you cry !!!!
you completely screwed up your argument for the sentimental answer, I wouldn't be surprised if someone would take a bullet for their "god." literally, the arguments you used for it align with that of religious people defending their respective religion. Non-sentimental answer was meh.
end part was good, should have kept that only
Then if you love someone you should first measure it in a lab so you know for sure you love them or they love you, right?
Love is a feeling not a belief.
Most do.
Hi Hemant. You always ask for suggestions at the end so here is one. I would love to see a video on your thoughts about how the future of atheists vs theists will be seeing as how we have this absurd constitutional right to practice religion. No matter what you can do to disprove theists, they will have that right to practice their religion. Do you believe in actually trying to change our constitution? Or do you think it is possible to just let it fade out naturally? Would be interesting to hear your thought, thanks.
Yes, uncorrupted love without ulterior motives such as heaven and hell.
This is a fairly obvious straw man. When people ask atheists questions such as "Do you believe in love?" they do so because most (or at least, many) atheists are physicalists. They maintain the view that all that exists is the physical world. However, if that's the case, "love" is nothing more than (something like) the synapses in one's brain firing in such a way that it brings about a love-like feeling. But everything that happens in the brain, and every "loving" action the brain produces is nothing but the result of of the laws of physics playing themselves out. You can call that process "love" if you want, but on this view, your brain, your conscious experience, and everything you ever do is just one part of the giant Rube Goldberg Machine that is the universe.
That said, this contrasts with traditional, and common sense notion of love that entails things like a will, (objective) value, etc.