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So what should be done for a dog that hasnt been responsive to positive training techniques? My DIL fostered a sheppard. A beautiful girl who was terrified of people and would become aggresive and jump a 6 foot privacy fence. Because the dog attacked another in foster, she had to give the dog back. We found out that the dog was labeled "unadoptable" and euthenized. It was heart breaking. So what can be done for a dog that does not respond to the research-backed positive training? Is it better to just let them go in that case? That cant be the only answer, can it? (Fyi the dog was rescued so we had no history on the dog but she seemed traumatized by people.)
This is, of course, a complicated subject that's impossible to fully discuss over YT. However, R+ works. For animals where people think it isn't, the most common problem is that people have poor timing, they don't understand ds/cc, they don't work with a skilled strictly R+ trainer, they don't implement the necessary management etc
However, it's also possible that there's a medical issue that's underlying (particularly issues that cause pain, but also endocrine issues, neuro issues etc all commonly affect behaviour) so a thorough medical work up plus appropriate pain medication trial is the bare minimum.
Also, some patients require appropriate prescription medication in order to reduce their fear/stress/anxiety enough that they are able to learn. This means working with a veterinary behaviourist.
And depending on the individual situation, there may also be other considerations and strategies... All this said, just like how I have some cancer (or any type of disease) patients who have a poor quality of life, there will also be some behaviour patients who are the same. For any/every situation where quality of life is suffering we always also need to discuss humane euthanasia.
What is absolutely unacceptable is to start abusing any animal that is suffering and that needs help. Especially when all the research is so very clear that it won't help and *will* make things worse for that animal. There's never an excuse for abuse.
There are a few dogs that don't respond to positive training. Those dogs almost always have a medical issue. We had one dog that didn't respond and was unpredictably aggressive (this was a rescue dog). We eventually had this dog (a Great Dane) put down because he didn't respond to training, was unpredictably aggressive (to people and other animals) and we felt he was a liability to all. We had a necropsy done (it was donated) and this dog had a brain tumor. That is not to say that if positive training "doesn't work", the dog has a brain tumor. That is to say, though, that if positive training doesn't work, there is usually a reason for it. Perhaps mistakes were made in application of the training. I refuse to say you were "ignorant" or anything like that. But suffice it to say, that when positive training doesn't work for me, it's because I am making a mistake. Perhaps I'm asking too much of the dog and he or she doesn't understand what I want, perhaps my timing in reinforcement is off, perhaps I"m not offering the correct reinforcer, perhaps I'm inadvertently still reinforcing the unwanted behavior. Let me tell on myself. I decided that I would keep our dogs out of the kitchen--it was unsafe for them to be underfoot if I was cooking and scurrying about with hot things in my hand. I worked out this detailed training plan. Oh, I had it all down. I implemented the plan. It didn't work. "What am I doing wrong?" I asked myself time and time again. Then it hit me in the head as I stood in the kitchen talking "baby talk" to the dogs, offering them puppy treats in the kitchen, etc. I was inadvertently reinforcing them for being in the kitchen. DUH!! No wonder my wonderful and detailed training plan "didn't work"! Sometimes it's difficult to catch your own mistakes, but I've found that if positive training isn't working, it isn't because positive training doesn't work. It's because I am not applying it correctly.
It’s important to understand If the dog doesn’t respond to r+ training that means that the dog does not respond to any training at this point. Punishing and compulsive training will not help either. As mentioned above medical issues need to be addressed first.
Agreed! If it is Not a medical issue, reward techniques must use a reward that is valuable to the dog. Cesar Millan wrote a book: "Cesar's Rules" in 2007 that included chapters from different trainers. One was Dr. Ian Dunbar [the Godfather of modern science based Dog training methods]. Cesar remarked that his best dog, Daddy, was not food motivated, so positive techniques wouldn't work. Dr. Dunbar found that Daddy was motivated by a tennis ball, and in a few moments, was able to train Daddy to do some behaviors that Cesar was not able to do. This is documented in the book, as well as in a Dog Star Daily blog post. My point is that some dogs need different motivators.
@@hanksimon1023 Agreed!
I would love to see you, Dr. Em, interacting with one of these aggressive dogs. That would be most instructive.
Likewise.
If you just want to see a respectful interaction with an “aggressive” dog, that’s incredibly easy. Quite literally any certified trainer has videos to show how they handle dogs with fear related issues. Maybe not on UA-cam, but they’re there. It usually involves not provoking the dog to begin with, as lunging and barking are self-rewarding behaviors, and you do not want them becoming habits.
Also, I’ve yet to see DeOlivera handle an aggressive dog. All of them have been scared, and most often mutts or breeds that have been selectively bred to react to a perceived threat by barking and lunging. An aggressive dog doesn’t bark. They simply bite.
On another note, you can’t use operant conditioning to directly change emotional states, the same way you can’t use classical conditioning to directly change behavior. Oftentimes classical conditioning results in a dog offering different behaviors as their state of mind changes, but that isn’t true of operant conditioning. That’s why most certified trainers start with classical conditioning. And if you don’t know what classical and operant conditioning is, as most of DeOlivera’s following doesn’t, operant conditioning is the four quadrants used to change behavior. Positive reinforcement (giving a reward to increase likelihood of behavior occurring again), negative reinforcement (removing an aversive stimuli to increase likelihood of behavior occurring), negative punishment (removing a reward to reduce likelihood of behavior occurring), and positive punishment (giving an aversive stimulus to reduce likelihood of behavior occurring). DeOlivera is using positive and negative punishment to try to change state of mind. You can see how that doesn’t make sense. Classical conditioning is related to Pavlov. Creating a positive, neutral, or negative association with a stimulus, resulting in a positive, neutral, or negative state of mind when shown/interacting with the stimulus. By higher level of knowledge on the subject, you’d know DeOlivera’s methods quite literally do not work. They just force a dog to suppress behavior, which will most likely lead to distrust of the handler, avoidance of perceived threats, and a bite that “came out of nowhere” because all the warning behaviors have been conditioned into extinction.
Being shown these methods on a video do not prove anything, as it is one dog and one situation. That’s why we work with the information we’ve gotten in the past, as it was gained over time and with many dogs and trials.
If you for some reason need an anecdote, I’m 16 and currently the only trusted handler of an adolescent working line German Shepherd dog. 91 pounds and bred for schutzhund with a shit ton of issues that could’ve and should’ve been addressed by the previous owner, but weren’t, and now he’s my responsibility. My first dog was reactive to large dogs and people, and aggressive towards smaller dogs and other animals. I got her to a point where we adopted two other dogs and three cats that she has been comfortable with. Just because a method has been shown to stop behavior doesn’t mean it “worked”. It’s a naive thought to believe that, although I’m not saying you do. Just to any fans of DeOlivera that happen to find my comment and want to rant about it.
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I have trained hundreds of similar aggressive dogs over 30 years. I've only used science and positive reinforcement to train them. It goes really fast when they aren't scared out of their minds.
Perhaps you should do some volunteer work at a local zoo or wildlife rescue. Then you would see for yourself how behavior science actually works. (With animals that are far more aggressive and dangerous than any breed of domestic dog.)
Early socialization and clear, constant, and FAIR boundaries from the beginning is best. I've never hurt my dog or used anything but positive reinforcement and have an amazing Bull Mastiff / lab mix who will not go out the front door without permission. He knows I will keep him safe and recently he saved me from a pit bull attack. We are best friends.
The fact that so many people defend DD, while dismissing what multiple vets have to say. People think they're experts just by reading the things they see online, on yt shorts, tiktoks. Typical example of how people interact with each other now. Everyone thinks they know better, while blatantly ignoring ACTUAL experts.
what gets me is he could literally wait 5-10 minutes for the dog to get comfortable with him and completely avoid the dog launching at him but that doesn't tend to as many get views.
That's true, and as anyone with any bmod knowledge knows, deliberately putting a dog over threshold is inappropriate and harmful to the learner.
All your comment does is demonstrate your immense lack of knowledge in this area. You have a lot of learning to do.
Did you even watch the video? Did you use the information linked in the description? You are so very uninformed and spreading disinformation. Once you have actually learned about behaviour modification from people who are actually experts then feel free to come back.
Beautiful put. I’m one of those trainers (CPDT-KA-FF) with a strong education in behavior. I work with “aggressive” dogs all the time and never once needed to use any adverse methods. Most of these dogs come to me after adverse trainers have made things much worse. I see it all the time, increased aggression, avoidance and mistrust in the handler. It’s unbelievably heartbreaking.
That's exactly what I see too, and what the research clearly demonstrates.
People using punishment are causing immense harm and it's devastating.
Thank you for all the work you do! CPDT-KA-FF trainers are awesome!!! 💪
So if DD got an aggressive dog to learn and b trained isn't that for the best in the long run.
Unfortunately, as is described in the video, abusing dogs makes them unsafe to be around as it increases the likelihood of them displaying aggressive behavior, and it doesn't address the underlying cause of their behavior, so no. It's absolutely *not* acceptable to put dogs through this.
But he doesn't "train" any dog. He simply suppresses them
Learned helplessness is not trained. His techniques only work on domesticated dogs that he can dominate and control. Flooding an animal into exhaustion appears like a magic trick. It's very fast and looks impressive. But the problem remains unsolved and can have disastrous consequences the first time a small child wanders into the yard.
I had to stop watching Dog Daddy's abuse but want to leave a comment instead to boost this video.
I saw his video where he fakse finding a dog that was identical to all his others in the back of a cab and "rescue it".
It was so obviously staged I had to look the guy up and found nothing good. Thank you for speaking out! 🙏🏻💜🤲🏻
I absolutely want you to protect your well-being first and foremost. I'm glad you stopped watching 💜
And thank you for the comment. It's appreciated!
So, it's okay for large powerful killers like pitfalls to lunge, snap at and pull away from their handlers and no one should say or do anything in hopes of offending them or hurting their dog feelings?
Did you even watch the video? Stop asking asinine questions.
What's unacceptable is to abuse dogs and cause them to act aggressively because of a complete lack of bmod knowledge...
its a difference to use misdirected agressiv dominans toward reactive dogs...and the right way..they need time..u need to use correct metods and that takes time !!! no kvick fix...get education in animal behaviour..and the dogs understand u are not a dog..u cant be a alfa leader...u can only be a safe human..that get proper education..and use it in long term redirekt dangerous behaviour.starting by the dog need to trust you..not fear you fore starters !
Anyone who had a first hand experience can share?
We need to hear from dog owners how their dogs are doing after Agosto's training. I guess by know it must be hundreds if not thousands. This will be the most revealing if his technique is right or not.
This is completely incorrect as we have decades of research on this topic. Please use the video description to learn more about the science of bmod.
Convenient how the results of the training were left out. You only showed how bad the situation was and how much the dog needed the help of someone who knows what they're doing, before someone was badly hurt and/or the dog was put down. Appreciate the info package, but this felt biased. I'd love to see dog daddy in live doing his thing, he's doing important work saving lives of dogs other people would put down and doing it at his own risk.
Please use the additional information linked in the video description as there's an awful lot you need to learn about ethical, research based behavior modification.
There's never an excuse to abuse dogs like this and the research is clear that when you do it results in more euthanasias. He's doing the exact opposite of saving lives.
@@VetMedCorner I'd rather look additional information from another source, do you have any recommendations other than your own videos on the topics listed in the description?
Check the descriptions of those videos
I adopted an ex-racing greyhound, a big confident male with a fantastic food drive and trained him with it: sit, down, place, stay, recall, fetch, retrieve, up, stop, leave it, trade up for a treat .... he was SO BIG and I'm so little I couldn't lift him so I absolutely needed him to respond to my voice commands. No need for adversives, just lots of repetition and timing. But there's no way I'd go near an aggressive pitbull, try to train one or ever own one. Your video is unfair. It's not ok for a big powerful dog like this to lunge, bark, growl, snarl and snap at people or other dogs or bite them. And there's no way that my training which worked wonderfully with Felix would ever be enough for a dog like this. OBVIOUSLY people. Are you crazy?
All the research proves that you are incredibly wrong.
You wrote that whole long paragraph just to tell us you're ignorant and don't do research? Good grief.
A Pitbull or a Rottweiler can be trained with these methods to be teddy bears. Once the dogs are adults... and have been 'abused' you do need more experience to train them to trust, and so on. You may not have the experience and tools to do this. But, it is very possible. I have an 80lb GSD-mix that was in a rescue from birth until 1.5yo. He had a ferocious bark, and sounded like your aggressive Pitbull example. I know that I don't have the experience to train a biting, 'aggressive' dog, but this dog did not bite. Once I discovered [the hard way ;-) ] that he did NOT bite, I adopted him. Later, I found out that he had been adopted and returned twice before. First, I took some time to teach him to walk on leash, then I took him into PetSmart, Home Depot etc. to walk every day, to get used to people and learn some social skills with people who knew dogs. I did this for a year. He calmed down and learned to look forward to seeing people and other dogs. I let him play with gentle dogs, and increasing large dogs that could play with him, without getting aggressive. And, I taught him tricks. He recently was awarded his top trick dog title, AKC Elite Performer. He is now 9yo, and as sweet and gentle as a Golden Retriever, but with a lot of personality. With patience and technique... it can be done. And, by the way, if Felix can play with other dogs, my dog would be able to play with him, as he does with some Great Danes that live in the neighborhood.
The dudes logic is the same as : having my child be raised by a known child abuser. Now, some ay think "a dog and a child are different" ,not if you read his fans "testimonials " they call their dogs, their "children"......
Those dogs will attack someone, sooner or later, because they live a life of fear.
While dogs are not people, the principles of behavior modification apply to all species and abuse is never acceptable. For any species!
@@VetMedCorner
Yes! Thank you for your reply!
I'm going to voice an unpopular opinion, but please don't lynch me! 😅I keep hearing all these opinions of people 'watching' and throwing in there two cents, but has anyone ever spoken to the 'owners' of the dogs that he worked with? What their experience was like before and after the training? If the methods that are 'suppose' to work didn't, what then? Dogs are not stupid, they have personalities and different levels of understanding. To say that everything on that paper or in that research applies to 'millions' of dogs worldwide is simply mind boggling. Can it cover the majority? Sure, but what happens when it 'doesn't' apply? What happens when you get a fur baby with a personality that doesn't tick all the boxes on that paper?
Hear me out for a moment, would you approach an introvered and extraverted person in the same way? Would you talk to someone who has different opinions, in the same way as you do someone who is in agreeance with your viewpoints? Is it so hard to imagine that, like people, sometimes a dog is simply set in their ways and it takes a different approach to get through to them? I'm sure everyone is familiar with the scenario of a problem child going off to boot camp or the military and come back a better version of themselves. I'm sure this opinion will upset a great deal of people here, however that is not my intention, I simply would like to provoke serious consideration to this delicate topic.
I myself am no stranger to physical discipline. When I was akid I didn't understand it, but as an adult I am extremely grateful that my parents pulled me up by my bootstraps and I love them all the more for them caring enough to raise me right. I will leave off of my soapbox on this hypothetical note.... If you tried every method you can think of and 'still' can't get a handle of your fur baby; and the choice was between risking him accidentally mauling someone and/or their fur child, or a bit of unorthodox training, would you let the situation continue to spiral out of control? I'm not saying that everything this guy does is 'right'. But he has such a large following because 'something' he's doing is helping out very distressed dog parents. They've exhausted the traditional methods and presumably, other dog trainers have washed their hands of these potentially dangerous animals. These dog parents are literally being responsible, and are fighting to have these guys safely coexist among other members of society.
Hi I’m an audio engineer and I enjoy your channel. The tiny mic trend is one you should definitely hop on as I know you are looking to improve your audio. Close mic placement is going to reap 100x the benefits of thin foam pads (which are largely in effective).
It doesn’t have to be tiny but there’s a reason that podcasters and radio announcers are less than a fist away from their mics. Thanks for promoting a high standard of evidence and care.
Thank you so much for your advice and expertise!!!
I saved up for a long time and did get a microphone a few months ago. I purchased the Yeti X and it has made a significant difference. I have it sitting on the desk in front of me (just out of frame). I believe the instructions with the mic said to be 12 inches from it, so that's what I have been doing... Should I ignore those instructions and try move the mic closer?
The main difference I note with the foam is a decrease in the 'echo/tinny' sounds in the recording so now I do way less fiddling with the audio which saves me a lot of time.
Thank you so much for watching VMC 😊 I'm so grateful for your comment!
@@VetMedCorner tldr: yes, closer is better.
Your voice is naturally soft, and would benefit the most from very close mic placement, this improves the direct sound/reflected sound ratio a lot (logarithmic improvements). 12” as a mic rule is like saying a dog is mature at 8 months, maybe is some cases, but there’s a lot more governing the situation and also mainly an iffy starting point. What does mature mean etc.
You got a big mic and properly it will be in frame (perhaps even bigger with a pop filter) people who don’t like that visual will use a long shotgun mic.
I never realized how soft my voice is until I started recording myself - it's actually been quite a pain lol
I currently don't have a pop filter, but will look into what that is and I will also move the mic as close as I can the next time I record.
Thank you so very much 🙌
Please post the link(s) to your training videos where we see you address the issues you raise with dogs that have issues. Thanks.
Feel free to start with the links in the video description to learn about bmod and to see where I highlight some research based trainers as well.
This is back to the whole debate of don't hit your kids thing. Cover them in bubble wrap metaphorically and physically so that they can't possibly hurt themselves or be in a situation of risk. Does it make better more responsible humans? Does it just make people these days soft and not understand what the real world is like? Probably some degree of both. Maybe it wasn't the best method but it I know the fear of getting smacked as a kid did stop me from doing a lot of stupid things and made me behave much better. Like always the best approach is likely somewhere in the middle. I love animals very much and hate the thought of being agressive with them or causing some degree of trauma. The trade off is that it is for the sake of the quality of their life being significantly improved and them being happier in the long term. That's a tough thing to balence. And this is why despite my initial gut reaction when I see how someone is working with animals I try to keep an open mind and not jump to conclusions.
There's a robust body of research demonstrating, very clearly, what the best, ethical, most effective, and most successful way to modify behavior is.
Your comment demonstrates that you are not familiar with that, and so you have a lot of learning to do.
I went more in depth into it in my videos on positive reinforcement and on punishment. They are linked in the description.
There's zero debate to have. Doing what this person does to dogs is abusive, harmful and entirely unnecessary.
In Behavioral training, what a dog considers as Punishment stops a behavior, and what encourages a behavior is a Reward. That can vary with individual - a treat, a ball, a tug, or praise. And, if you've had a large Lab or other large dog, a slap on the rump, may be a reward leading to play. Understanding that discrimination, you can see that Punishment has to be used precisely and with correct timing to be most effective with dogs. Kids can communicate and reason, but dogs are in the moment, so poor timing can mean poor training, when using punishment. Modern training methods recognize the need for anticipating bad behavior, and then rewarding good behavior to replace it. As a simple example, if a dog jumps on people, it is probably a predictable pattern. To stop it, you don't knee him in the chest after he has jumped [that punishment may teach him Not to be happy to see people, or to avoid specific people, and so on.]. Instead, you teach him to Sit on cue when he sees people. If he doesn't Sit, then he doesn't get 'rewarded' by interaction. And, if he does Sit, he may get a treat [which will be faded], and will be rewarded with interaction. Finally, there is a subtle outcome that punishment methods may not observe. Trainers that use constant and predictable extinction and [faded] reward methods, notice that their dogs grow into confident, friendly, independent companions with personalities that are distinctively different from obedient dogs trained with punishment. And, this is true across ALL breeds from Cane Corso, Rottweiler, Pitbull etc. to Chihuahua, King Charles, Shepherd, and Retrievers, etc. Next time you see a happy dog with a thoughtful personality, ask the owner how it was trained. ;-)
Nah, hes a fraud. End of. He offers nothing positive.
Wow! He's not choking the dog, he's keeping tension on the leash so he don't get bit. Also, he's making the dog face his fears to see there's nothing to be afraid of. We see psychologist make people face there fears so what's the difference?
First, you need to understand the science of behavior modification as everything in your comment is incorrect.
Flooding is not ever an 'appropriate' technique, no matter what the species is, and that plus choking is exactly what's going on here.
And did you completely miss the fact the dog is wearing a muzzle? It literally can't bite him...
A person has a choice to face their fears. They also don't get thrown in the deep end and made to feel absolutely terrified with no means of escape.
I see many vets and animal behaviorist saying these methods are wrong...but they never say how to do it right. After my 160 lb pyranees randomly attacked me, I attempted focusing even harder on his training. The vet won't even come near him without sedation because he is so big and learned that if he swings his head at people, they will back off. I was told to bring him back sedated...I did...and the vet said it was not enough. I have now paid over 200 bucks on just this vet and will have to take him there darned near unconscious to get the vet to examine him! I have been so frustrated over this that I resorted to a trainer called the dog savant. My dog would have bit him had he not had the prong collar and 2 leashes in place. As it was, my dog finally settled down, sat, and looked to the trainer for further info. He learned place and no pressure was necessary anymore. I don't like the prong collar, but our trainer did not apply pressure. I'm not sure how so many vets and behaviorist say it is wrong but they are not giving alternatives. My boy was on his way to having to be put down. I did not want this to happen and many of these aggression trainers use the same techniques. What would you do if your dog is trying to attack you for no known reason and you are avoiding teeth? Any alternatives to the prong collar or these training techniques would be appreciated if you have any? Do we just put him down? I don't understand how you give positive reinforcement to a dog who is applying 500psi to your arm? Please help!
I have a full series with additional information on the science of behavior modification linked in the video description, along with a link to help you find a veterinary behaviourist (which is required for the situation you are describing).
Start there, and let me know if you have other questions after you have gone through that information and consulted a veterinary behaviourist!
how many dogs have you trained? and what breed? do you have practical expertise in the topic or are you just a veterinary? because in my experience a veterinary is not a dog trainer. Not saying you are wrong but I am questioning your knowledge on the topic.
I am not wrong, these are not 'opinions' it is fact based on decades of research. Feel free to check the video description for a lot more information on the topic.
@@VetMedCorner I did checked them out and they are all opinion based, and no one of them shows details in their study, they all said they did studies, but don't specify how they where conducted, with what breed what included or excluded, and the dog history or behavior, and non of them the show comparative results.
Also you never answer my initial the question, have you trained any dogs? if so what breed? or are you just a veterinary?
Since you don't have the knowledge base of what the position statements of all the experts say, and since you don't understand bmod it's not possible to move to anything in-depth regarding bmod, R+ etc
Use the descriptions of the videos to find more information and use this blog to help you find someone who actually has some research based, humane, ethical education in the topic who can meet with you regularly to teach you
www.companionanimalpsychology.com/2016/12/how-to-choose-dog-trainer.html?m=1
It will also help you to learn the questions that actually matter when assessing the knowledge base of someone when it comes to bmod because you are asking the wrong ones.
Vriendjes met Zack George????
I don't know who Zack George is, but if they are a research based person, that's excellent!
Love Dog Daddy
Did you even watch the video???!?
I used these techniques on 2 dogs snd rehomed them from no changed in behabior 😭😭😭😭😭i habe a dog thag ive had for a long time now, i recently stunbled upon someone showing the research and i started giing down the rabbit hole of information, when i realized what ive done and the images of being mean, forceful, loud, pushing on their sides, it literally shattered me and i sobbed harder than almost anything in my life. I continue to sob some nights from just being reminded how fucking awful that is, how i hurt and made the 2 other dogs worse from this debunked dumbass training. The worst part is ive done this to my dog gilly, my fucking soulmate, my absolute best friend, everytime i start thinking about what ive done to her, and how fucking ignorant ive been and how this is the reason why i havent been seeing changes in her bad fear based reactivity/aggresion (abused and neglected heavily befofe me so came to me with the issues she has) it just hurts my litteral heart, like i feel the need to curl over and jusy slowly die from how painful it is. On the plus side im seeing real results and betterment with +R, its slow progress but were getting their, it also inspired me to go to school to pursue my bachelors in animal behabioral science and i hope to someday become a trainer that can maybe reach these people who are manipulated into thinking this quick fix is going to solve their issues. Ever since that first breakdown im going to try and do my best to dedicating my life to help these people and help these dogs
Reading your comment made my heart ache for you.
Please be kind to yourself as you didn't know any better at that time. The most important thing is that since you do know better now, you've changed and are doing better. That's the most important thing - and I am so proud of you for changing.
You also aren't alone as many adults are what we call 'crossover trainers'. Starting with punishment, eventually realizing there is a more effective, faster, humane way and switching over to it. Your story is very common.
I, personally, started R+ with dogs, but for some reason didn't connect the fact that behavior modification principles apply to *all* species until I was in vet school. As a result, I have some major regrets with how I worked with horses as a teenager and in my undergrad. But I can't change the past so I focus on improving my skills/knowledge for future interactions.
You may be interested in looking into the Karen Pryor Academy as that is one of the top notch dog trainer programs at the moment. I haven't been through that curriculum personally but the trainers I work with to help my patients are most often graduates from the program. I also attend Clicker Expo (nearly) every year as it's a decent way to get some exposure to new ideas and to start some new conversations/connect with like minded people.
I'm so glad you found VMC, welcome 😊
@@VetMedCorner wow I did not think I would get a response! Thank you for the kind words, I'm trying not to be hard on myself but I will say it's really difficult especially when you realize you will never ever get that time back. It's truly disheartening. I will say that it's sparked a fire and passion in me to do better that I've never felt in my life, so for that I'm thankful.
That is really good to know! I was looking at a few trainer courses from people like Victoria stillwell, so I will add that to my list of reputable trainer courses! I'm hoping to soon get into my community college so I can eventually after graduating go to my university (UNE) as they have a specific Animal behavioral science bachelor's degree that I imagine is so awesome and packed with so much information to learn. Plus I figured more certifications/degrees with dealing with animal care/behavior science can't hurt to show credentials when im eventually trying to put my training services to work. Would you be able to point me in the direction of some good articles, studies, or any information I can read on to broaden my knowledge? Also any +R specific trainers you know, as it is kind of difficult to sift through all of the trainers who spread this debunked training. I hope to be doing the good work you're doing someday, thank you for what you do, you literally help people like me wake the hell up!❤️🥹
Seeing comments like yours makes it worth all the terrible comments/threats I get for these sorts of videos.
I can't always respond to every comment, but I try my best 💜
In the description of this video there are a few links to videos where I react to some R+ trainers. I hope that you find those helpful.
I'll also grab you a link to a wonderful blog by Dr. Todd about what to look for in a dog trainer:
www.companionanimalpsychology.com/2016/12/how-to-choose-dog-trainer.html?m=1
I hope that this enables you to look further into the credentials that Dr. Todd discusses.
Be kind to yourself, you're doing the best you can and that's amazing 🐾💪
@@VetMedCorner thank you so much for the information and just everything! I'm so sorry you have to deal with that😭 it's crazy how many people are conditioned into believing that aggression and aversive punishments are the answer. It's pure manipulation on the part of allllll the trainers including dog daddy who spread this cancerous idea. I hope more and more people can get enlightened, before it's too late and they've destroyed they're dog. Much love to you ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Reading about your experience is heartbreaking. But it gives you passion to pursue and educate yourself in dogs behaviour and theraphy. Keep hoing!
what happened later in the video?
The abuse continues, there's no change in the 'training' methods and as the dog was already shut down there's nothing additional to be gained while educating people by showing more abuse.
@@VetMedCorner in that case it's a surprise he uploaded it. that must really deter potential customers to see him fail like that.
It's likely he doesn't have the education/knowledge to understand how awful this to do to dogs... If he did, I would hope he would be treating them better than this!
Unfortunately, tons of people also don't see anything wrong with abusing dogs this way and so they don't see it as a failure. Since the dog is (temporarily) shut down they often view this as 'success'.
It's horrifying.
Thank you so much for this one Dr Em. I see him mentioned a lot online (thankfully it's mostly negative press in the circles i frequent). But I do hate how much of a following he still somehow has even with all the debunking and bad press he's got.
I also hate that people are tricked by him 😥 but I am grateful there are people who know better and who stay far away.
I've been excited by Dogs Daddy miraculous handling of the dogs. I even started suspecting he might be using a secret body language that calms down anxious dogs or even...feromons 😅.
Giving difficult dogs and their owners a chance.
Now what if you're right that the fact that dogs behaviour changes in seconds if his handling might be as well explained by trauma and shutting down.
We yet need to hear from dog owners how their dogs are doing after Agosto's training. I guess by know it must be hundreds if not thousands. This will be the most revealing if his technique is right or not.
Anyone had a first hand experience and can share the results?
What I'm saying is not opinion. It's fact, based on decades of research. He is causing immense harm and the dogs are shut down and are left off far worse than before.
Feel free to see additional information in the description.
@@VetMedCorner how do they cope after? We need to hear from dogs owners who underwent this "behaviour modification".
Imagine now people try to imitate his methods based on yt videos.
They are damaged the exact same ways that other dogs who are abused and punished are. This person isn't doing anything different/new.
@@VetMedCorner so sad to hear that. Dog owners who pay for this training are desperate as other methods failed. They don't want to harm their dogs. We all need to do lots of research before.
Ethical, research based, non abusive behavior modification doesn't fail unless there's an untreated medical issue or it's not done properly. There's *zero* excuses to abuse animals like this. None.
I don't know to much on this person or dog training myself, but this persons style of training reminds me a lot of Clinton Anderson's training method he's a horse trainer and he has a TV show called "down under horsemanship" and a lot of his methods are similar to what I've observed here, most of is just flooding and often times chasing the horse around in a round pen to exhaustion often times make a behavior worse. ON the outside a horse looks trained cus its tired and stressed out! but nothing is fixed long term. Again I don't know much about dogs but it feels similar here :( Not sure if its still controversial to say but sometimes genetics do play a role in a a dogs reactivity many dogs are backyard bred and that causes tons of issues! poor socialization pain being ignored and physiological issues some people are also just terrible and try to breed mean dogs on purpose cus the think that's how you get a good guard dog. Not all issues can be fixed by just training :/ I know for horses again majority of "bad behavior" that horses display is often pain! majority of the time its either stomach or mouth ulcers. I'm sure its the same for dogs to! What worries be the most tho is,..how and why are so many people letting there dogs get like this? How does it happen?
You are absolutely correct that genetics and medical issues play a significant role in impacting behavior. Additionally, people make dogs worse by punishing them and exposing them to abuse like this. We know that punishment increases the likelihood of the animal displaying 'aggressive' behaviors in the future.
I've been in love with horses my entire life, and can't wait for the day that I can afford one so that I can work with them using R+. I have major regrets about my past (when I was a teenager/in undergrad and I didn't know any better), because I fell for the things the 'natural horsemanship' men who had become popular were saying. As soon as I learned to do better, I changed how I approach bmod, and I want to further develop my equine R+ skills.
What are the potential long-term consequences of aggressive training methods on my dog's behavior and well-being?
Please feel free use the additional information in the video description!
You’d probably end up creating a more fearful and shut down dog if you use aggressive methods.
Hi Dr Em, can you please do a video covering how Cesar Millan's dog bit someone years ago and how one of his dog killed Queen Latifah's dog at his dog psychology center?
A good example of a ticking time bomb you mentioned in this video
I did cover CM in a video, although didn't spend a lot of time on those specific details. You are very correct that these 2 people use the same 'techniques' and are both responsible for immense harm while making the dogs more dangerous.
It's horrifying 😥
I would not let him within 10 miles of my dog
That is very wise of you. I'm so glad there are people who are already aware and who steer clear.
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Madam this man is saving the lives of these dogs who would otherwise be euthanized or cause great harm to people in their circle. You are mis informed. They are dogs, and are acting like dogs, not people. Why would they subject their dogs to this? Because she is a dead dog!! They cannot keep a vicious dog like this in their home, he is fixing them.
All this does is demonstrate your immense lack of knowledge about dog body language and bmod. You have an awful lot of learning to do. Feel free to start with the additional information in the video description.
Dog Daddy is great.
Did you even watch the video?
How is the research(studies) gathered. Is there a paper trail for the specific breeds/behaviors and outcomes of the work done with real dogs?
The reasoning behind my question is to know if it actually works, especially with problem dogs. Ive had bully breeds for awhile.
Feel free to use the video description for additional information.
Also, explore Dr. Ian Dunbar DVM, Ph.D. He has conducted some of the research, and keeps in touch with many of the current researchers. Some work is general and some is breed specific.
Don't let the bad comments get you down. People need to know the truth, even if they don't want to accept it yet.
I really appreciate this comment - thank you 💜 My hope is to reach the people who are wondering/questioning and who want some information about why punishment isn't acceptable/appropriate/ethical. There are also some people who don't know how much research we have in this realm and who don't know there is a better way...
Plus there's very little research based educational content out there for lay people so I keep on keeping on and comments like yours mean so much. Thank you ☺️
looks like she is reading a script
I research the person, and after I've reacted to their video I write down some bullet points to help me communicate the science in a way that's as clear/concise as possible. For both those things, I use an outline that I have written down.
I am doing a positive and fun activity with my dog. It is called barn hunt and it is so fun. Before starting this I had been doing obedience and trained my dog not to use her nose, but now she must use her nose. My dog must think I am bi-polar or something. I learned that my dog uses her eyes a lot, but she loves it and all animals are well cared for and loved.
Some of my friends do barn hunt too - it seems like a lot of fun!
It kills me to know that he still gets millions and millions of views.
Same 💔
Because of the GOOD he is doing,
Dear Dr Em, I've only just come across your videos because I have learned a lot from Victoria Stilwell and very much like how she updates old training philosophies that she's used in earlier shows. So i watched your video on Victoria's work with Olivia and Sophia (having seen the show not too long ago, it was really interesting to hear your comments). So i went to look at your newest video and couldn't bring myself to watch it. You kindly warn us what the dog 'trainer' does so i haven't watched - just the idea that people think it's ok to use choke chains makes me cry so i know i wouldn't sleep if i watched this. However, thank you for the good work that you are doing by highlighting the good, positive and effective training vs the rest. Thank you 🐾🙏🏻🐾
Welcome to VMC!
I'm glad you didn't watch this video, it's absolutely awful.
I'm also very proud of how Victoria talks about things she has learned and changed. We all learn as time passes and when we learn better we do better!
I also have a couple other videos about other R+, research based trainers who are also wonderful. I'm so grateful for all the amazing humans who advocate for research based, ethical and humane behavior modification!
Your comment is so lovely and I really appreciate it. Thank you ☺️
@@VetMedCorner thank you for your wonderful response. I'll have a look through your videos for other +R Trainers. Thank you☺️🙏🏻☺️
I AGREE! To me, DD is simply breaking the dog's spirit... cruel
He use to be a known dog flipper on CL and FB. He breed dogs that should've never been breed. He has multiple lawsuits against him. He was actually feeding live livestock (chickens, rabbits and goats). I dont have an issue with raw. Raw live yes. He has broken the spirits of many dogs. My friend had one. He basically moves every few years once his newest scam runs. People believe he is a miracle worker, he's not. People who don't believe in him are called jealous.
Only using positive reinforcement training does not work for every scenario. You can not use it to work with aggressive/fearful dogs which is what Dog Daddy specifically works with. Not a single species of animal including Dogs use only positivity when interacting with each other. you cannot have positive without negative. You need to find a balance with how you raise and train your dog. I exclusively use positive reinforcement training with my dogs except if they were to ever become fearful, reactive or aggressive towards other dogs and people. In this video he's not even choking the dog he's using a method called positive punishment where in this case you put a slight tension on the leash until the dog complies and when they do you immediately release so you send clear communication to the dog on what you want from them. most of the time the dogs he works with are so fearful of strangers and other dogs that they end up choking themselves out and he waits and gives them time to calm down until he can start really working with them. most of the dogs he works with are very intelligent and eager to learn once they calm down, they just need stronger leadership and guidance and better socialization.
Unfortunately, you are completely wrong.
What disturbs me the most about this guy is the majority of clips I have seen of him are with pit bull / bully breeds and other large dogs with the capacity to do real damage if they become aggressive. With him turning the dogs into a "ticking time bomb" as you said, he is setting up something extremely catastrophic to happen in the future when one of these dogs snaps and seriously hurts or kills someone.
Yes, you are correct. It's horrifying 💔
All due respect but a veterinarian should handle these dogs before condemning these trainers if they want to be taken seriously. I can't find your credentials. You sound like Zack George. I've never seen him handle an aggressive dog in any of his videos
Ah yes, because Augusto also has 8 years of post secondary education, a doctorate and a decade spent working after that...
Oh no, that's right. Augusto doesn't have a single qualification at all. Not a one.
I'm sorry but showing how much you are educated, doesn't mean that you can save aggressive dogs that owners probably have previously tried to get trained unsuccessfully, and their probably next step it's to put them down..... So ......
All this does is demonstrate how little you know about behavior modification.
Come back after you've learned.
I have seen very few clips of this "Dog Daddy" because it makes me physically sick to see the abuse he does claiming it as training. With all the video evidence, I can't see how he is not locked up and still being allowed around animals. People that claim to be "balanced trainers" also agree that this is not the right way. Unfortunately, the controversy and intense videos is partly responsible for at least some of his following. I do hope that this opens the way to get the industry more regulated, so it is easier to find appropriate trainers.
I hope he gets permanently thrown off all the social media platforms as well... I am very grateful for all the people who protest him and hope that continues until the industry changes.
Did you actually watch the video? I will never ever condone animal abuse, profiting off of it, and influencing other people to also start abusing dogs.
I think one of his followers made that comment! Pretty much a cult!
@@y-it114 Do some research instead of blindly following that absurd man with his sketchy, faulty, unsustainable tactics.
Thank you for covering this! My heart hurts for all of those poor dogs who have been through this.
Mine too 💔
I thought I was the dog daddy..... even though I only have 19 dogs now..... I rescue dogs and it's all on me.... hopefully I get some help one of these days hahaha😂
Thank you for exposing this fraud.
Thank you for explaining why all of this is so wrong via science and reason...Even though you'd really think we've advanced enough as humans for it to be a no-brainer?? Augusto and his followers make me so angry I feel SO bad for the animals!!
Avoid his videos then ... simply as that 🤔
His “followers” and comments are 90% bots:)
So according to your theory all puppies mothers are cracking their young inappropriately????? Because that's all a prong collar does.. Do you have any videos of you using your method on a working line German Shepherd?? Would love to see that
What you claim about both dog mothers and about prong collars is incorrect.
Additionally, you are not a canine and hopefully you know that.
There are several places in the United States the do train service dogs. I do believe they have to go through the assistance dog international. Which are real service dogs
There is no legal 'certification' for a real service dog.
@@VetMedCorner yes there is. To be able to have a service dog it must come from the place I stated that is affiliated with that for the government to pay for a service dog in Canada. 85 bucks a month for their insurance. And that's the only place you can get a service dog from otherwise they won't pay. And if you're right and I'm wrong then we can sue the Canadian government together. Is there trying to sidestep their job just Google Ontario service dogs and Ontario Disability Support Program.
You are wrong.
Firstly, in the video and your first comment it clearly is discussing the USA.
However, then you change to Ontario... For some unknown reason... But even there your statement is incorrect.
www.ontario.ca/page/accessibility-ontario-what-you-need-to-know#:~:text=Under%20the%20Ontario%20Human%20Rights%20Code%20and%20the%20AODA%20%2C%20service,from%20a%20regulated%20health%20professional
@@VetMedCorner Google ODSP Ontario Canada. Look at the legal qualifications you must have for people that are blind or for people that have pstd for a dog trained to pick up a medical problem such as diabetes. They must be connected to the accredited Assistance Dog International thing that I mentioned earlier and the reason I say Ontario Canada is because I'm in Ontario Canada and the only way I can get paid on my ODSP to have a safety dog is through that place they have to be connected. Or no-go on money to support the dog. These dogs cost about $50,000 but they're donated to people that need them around North America. There's five or six places around the US that train them. Just Google it anybody else can
I've given you the link to the Ontario government site that defines what is needed for a service dog. It's not what you claim.
ETA getting financial assistance for a dog is an entirely different matter than what is legally required for working a service dog.
Why not join forces for a work seminar to help people with aggressive dogs with issues, Professionals guiding and helping other so-called professionals were to donate their time and offer help instead of judging, other people trying to keep dogs from being euthanized. This world would be a better place. Of course the mighty dollar always rules, if there is no money to be made let us find a way to get more subscribers on UA-cam. Of course, the animal will always pay the price with it life because animals are not greedy in money only the greedy ones seeking only monetary value.
Oh, did you think that the person this video is about does this out of the kindness of his heart? Because boy oh boy do I have some news for you... And a bridge to sell you...
PS I have linked *several* free and paid resources from actual experts in the description of this video.
Thank you for this video. I had to stop looking at his videos because I was starting to feel very violent feelings towards him. I am baffled that owners are able to stand back and let him hurt their dogs - who they love. Deoliveira is not interested in learning how to do things properly and compassionately; the only legal way to stop him is for him to be put in jail for a very long time.
The best I can come up with is that these people truly don't know any better and that they also have zero understanding of dog behaviour... And that's why I forced myself to do this video. Somehow people who don't know need to be able to access information where they can learn. I hope that this video helps in some way to teach people why this is absolutely not okay.
Thank you for making this video.
Thank you for watching 😊
I think it's insane that every single one of dog daddy's defenders always brings up (1) let's see you deal with an aggressive dog and (2) these dogs would be put down otherwise. They've clearly been told this over and over it's such a consistent complaint comment I see on literally any video criticizing dog daddy. To me, and untrained observer, this guy is very clearly harming these dogs and deliberately antagonizing them in a bid to assert dominance and exhaust them. I've heard horse trainers call this technique 'flooding' and equate it to abuse, you're really just exhausting them and teaching them to be helpless and they're still dangerous. I've heard he makes clients sign NDAs because his techniques clearly don't hold over time. If a dog is going to be put down because it's aggressive and you don't have enough time to train it using positive reinforcement it is not better to torture the animal and then put it down later when it attacks someone because you've tortured it.
You are completely correct.
Additionally, when 'aggressive' dogs are worked with in a safe, ethical, research based manner they are kept under threshold (which is the only way any animal can learn as it's impossible to learn when you are being flooded/abused/feeling terror) so then these sorts of people claim 'that dog wasn't actually aggressive' 🙄
It's exhausting, frustrating and immensely upsetting.
He is the worse abuser, they have been trying to get him for years. He started of in Massachusetts under the name of Griffin Kennels.
His pups have so many problems
I had no idea about the 'breeding' aspect of things until I started researching for this video - that surprised me!
The poor dogs 😞 it's so awful
So hes been abusing dogs before this? Changing his name shows that he knows what he is doing is wrong, but he keeps doing it. 😠
@@ZaryaTheLaika people on Facebook are still defending him. What's wrong with people?
Proof or it didn't happen.@@ZaryaTheLaika
Those of us in the positive training community certainly do NOT approve of "The Dog Daddy"'s "training" techniques. I put "training" in quotes because he doesn't really train dogs. He shuts dogs down. A group of us try to have protestors at each of his "seminars". This man is a danger to both dogs and their owners. If the dog's owner tries these techniques, they may very well be bitten. His techniques are NOT acceptable and should NOT be used--ever. Please do NOT fall into thinking that this man is a "wonderful" trainer. He doesn't train. He abuses dogs. I can't even stand to watch what he does to these poor dogs. And do NOT fall for the "positive trainers kill dogs" (supposedly because dog owners are so uneducated and unloving that they want the behavior gone tomorrow and if you can't shut the dog down and get rid of the behavior "immediately" the dog will be put down). Most of the owners I've run across want the best for their dog. There have been a few that didn't (and I recommended rehoming of the dog). But most want to do the best thing for their dog. The problem with just shutting the dog down is that he doesn't change the dog's emotional response to the stimulus and he doesn't teach the dog what to do instead of the undesirable behavior. Then the behavior COMES BACK. I'll promise you it will return (because you haven't addressed the underlying issue and haven't taught the dog how to deal with her fear/stress/anxiety). PLEASE do NOT support The Dog Daddy, please do NOT watch these videos (to support him) and certainly do not pay him one red cent for his classes or training or seminars. If you have a behavioral issue with your dog, PLEASE use a positive (or fear free) behavior professional. If you do not, you can make the matter worse and aversive training increase or result in AGGRESSION. So if you have a "minor" problem like jumping up and you use aversive training, you can create an aggressive response in your dog. You've just made matters worse--MUCH worse.
I had to take a significant break after being subjected to a few minutes of him for this video. It's devastating 💔
Thank you for reiterating what I talk about in my video, and I am so so so grateful there are so many people protesting him. I'm hoping my video will add to the numbers of those who protest.
(And as a side note: watching this video on VMC does absolutely nothing to support him in any way).
I am so very appreciative of your comment, it warms my heart to know there are people like you out there working to make things better for dogs 💜
What you are saying is exactly the same thought (in the same words) I had when I watched a couple of "Dog Daddy'" videos. He doesn't train them or "teach" them anything, he is, as you say, shutting them down altogether. He turns them into ticking time bombs. I live in Australia and I am thankful he's been kept out of this country.
Its hard to watch ur advice seems to b so bad u think dogs should never b in hard situations they need to learn they dont get treats all the time there hard times for all and they have to adjust u would have every mother dog put down for how the dogs correct rach other . By the time ur positive training works the dog will b old
All this comment demonstrates is how piteously little you know about behaviour modification and the robust body of research that's been done over decades...
Not to be contrary, but a lot of dogs poop and pee in the waiting room for going to the vet also. They still have to go to the vet.
That's also completely inappropriate to have occur and is why there are fear free and low stress certified clinics... Unless it's a life or death emergency (which is incredibly rare), no, the dog that is that fearful absolutely does not need that appointment and can first get an appropriate behavior modification plan, along with medications to reduce situational stress before we would ever proceed with an appointment for that animal.
Your dad job is to take care of the dogs. Apparently these dogs can’t be taken care of or they would’ve never seen the dog daddy.
Did you happen to actually watch the video?
His followers are so passionate about him and his methods that they are blind to all the cries for help those poor dogs are exhibiting 😢
It's actually terrifying to scroll through the comment section on his videos.
I was not brave enough to even try that - you are very bold to spend time there!
do you know he goes to shelters and works with dogs that would be put down if he did not work with them?
There are plenty of research based, positive reinforcement trainers who do that same work and who *actually* improve the dogs and who don't abuse them...
These are dogs which have been rejected by other trainers....
@@VetMedCorner
The comment section on his videos are mostly filled with bots, he pays for them.
You don`t understand his methods . You need a level of consciousness to understand his techniques. You don’t have a clear Perspektive. There are so many ways to teach dogs, his methods are not painful! Think about that. It’s more painful for dogs when you don’t have the right leadership. The dog daddy uses the most effective method and with 100% success ! Accept his method . He`s not hurting dogs he`s helping them! I recommend you that you join a class and observe the techniques .
Unfortunately, all you have done is demonstrate your immense lack of knowledge and understanding of bmod.
You'll find more information in the video description to help you get started.
Yes thank you , I appreciate you support.
I see you have a lot of knowledge .that’s good!
But I think you don’t have enough real experience with dogs and your knowledge won't help you if you do not have experience.
With his actions he’s doing the work! He’s helping the dogs and not like his haters (like you) who are only criticizing here on social media.
Dog daddy is a human and he’s not perfect, but he’s helping and that is the goal.
Dog Daddy is still learning how to redefine his methods.
Much love and blessings for
You
Again, all this demonstrates is your immense lack of knowledge about dog behavior and bmod. You desperately need to start learning from actual experts who are already doing research based, ethical, bmod.
There's no excuse to abuse animals like this.
He's not helping, he's just setting those dogs up for failure and will probably will be put down anyway, there are so many cases, PLEASE just read some testimonies, after methods like this people would say "I tried everything" and put their dogs to sleep because this doesn't fix ANYTHING @@juniwhite02
Thank you for being so detailed! I can't believe I first liked him... Now I see.
I am so grateful you are learning - that's wonderful!! If you use the blog linked in the video description it will help you find a research based, ethical, positive reinforcement trainer.
I don't agree with your statements. These dogs start to wiggle tail, happily obey commands, are given some patting, and don't look shut down or in distress. Dogs crave a leader and feel less anxious next to a strong leader. All he establishes is their respect towards humans.
All this does is demonstrate your immense lack of knowledge of dog body language and clearly demonstrates a total lack of knowledge about behaviour modification
Tail wagging can mean a bunch of different things, dummy
Donate your time and professionalism for a better cause.
I already donate many hours every single month, while still having over 130 000 left in student debt after paying on those loans for over a decade. I live paycheck to paycheck.
Take your baseless non expert judgment elsewhere.
@@VetMedCorner I'm sorry UA-cam comments is filled with so many idiots. I don't know what happened to 1. Agree to disagree, 2 don't attack the messenger, 3. Debate the topic. I don't understand people anymore. I don't agree with everything you've said either, but nothing you've said told me you are anything less than a beautiful person. Don't let the jerks get to you. I'm learning from you as well as him and others.
ya you seem to be an expert with 5 k subs..
Apparently, this will be a shock to you, but YT doesn't teach the science of behaviour modification...
Subscribers don’t determine a persons knowledge.
I don’t agree w/ you. Dogs are not like ppl. Watch wolves in the wild. He’s working with aggressive dogs, they need understand who the alpha dog is. Yes that’s what aggressive dogs need and makes the dog understand it’s place in this world. When the dog owner continues to correct the behavior the animal understands. I was a victim of a serious dog attack that left me in the hospital having to have reconstructive surgery on my face. Miss veterinarian why don’t you go watch how wolves establish alpha order in the wild and yes the dog getting put in its place held by the throat by the alpha 💩💩💩himself
Dogs don’t think like children they still understand The archetypal deeply rooted sinking of the animal. Animals are not people aggressive dogs need to understand their place. Everything you’re saying is true I got a normal maybe even misbehaving dog but we are talking about vicious dangerous animals that need to understand the pecking order. Go watch a video of wolves that’s how dogs think
Unfortunately, you are demonstrating just how immense your lack of knowledge about dogs and about behaviour modification is.
Linked in the video description is more information about dominance theory and about the science of behavior modification (which applies to all species).
It's also well known that the wolf behaviour you speak of was proven to be wrong many, many years ago.
Lastly, that's Dr. Veterinarian and if you don't learn about dog behaviour that leaves you at a vastly increased risk for a future bite from another dog, which is the last thing I want for anyone.
First, dogs and humans DO NOT communicate like wolves do with wolves. We have to rely on body language, and other cues to communicate with our dogs.. Wolves do not. Wolves have their own way of communication. Secondly, as the creator said, the “alpha” method has been debunked, it doesn’t exist. Dominance training is extremely harmful to a dog’s mindset, you shouldn’t have a bond built on dominance and control, you should have one of understanding, respect, and trust.
He has 11 people signed up for course...if you can call it a course
I really struggled with what to call it in the video...
Thank you for shedding light on this horrible "trainer". More needs to be done to stop people like him.
I absolutely agree.
Lets see your technique for handling aggressive dogs
Would you train a toddler by strangling them? Scaring them into doing as they're told?
A dog is unable to communicate verbally why they're struggling with something, just as a toddler is.
As the owner (or parent) it is your responsibility to teach them. Terrifying them does not work.
Most aggressive dogs, are aggressive because of how they've been treated and it often comes from fear. Scaring them more will just reinforce it
The first place for you to start is the description of this video. There are many links there... Explaining ethical, research based, humane, effective behavior modification as well as highlighting excellent trainers and more.
Thank you for making this video. I’ve unfortunately learned more about him than I wanted to.
That very concisely sums up how I felt about it too. I'm so sorry and I hope that you do something to care for yourself 💜
By the end of dog Daddy's videos he will often show an aggressive dog being calmed down losing its aggression and fear. If the dog was harmed I do think the dog would react but they do not
Did you watch the video? This is the definition of learned helplessness which is extremely harmful.
the dogs are not calm, they’re shut down. They’re not obedient, they’re scared.
Dogs have an intelligence level of a toddler, so would you yank a toddler by its neck for misbehaving? Or would you work with them and have patience??
thank you. he just came to sF and will be travelling! i am upset. i dont think choking a child would work so i wouldnt choke a dog either. i wasnt sure because the new dog owners seem to respond well to the training. i would likely interview people who used his methods a month or two later.
thank you fore making this video. this was so needed ! i dont understand why people are buying in to this extrem solution based on agression and some sort of twisted domination from the human " expert " if any of those tekniks been using on my dogs it would end up in an disaster. ore any other breeds that will totally backfire on sutch agressiv handeling. also the thing he is using sun glasses and hats when handeling this dogs..the dogs cant read his eyes etc..its insane..im so fed up with this cvick fix domination solution. its just a mather of time until the dogs end up sick do to the extreme stress of cortisol in the blood. ore the dog will reack out eventually on another dog ore child ore another human..thank you fore adressing this metods and this people.
He is absolutely ABUSIVE! His dog just freeze and exhibit learned helplessness yet he calls it “rehabilitated “ the problem is majority of people don’t understand behavior and just see dog stop barking and biting and think it’s fixed little they know behavior work is a discipline and work in progress. Suppression is not training. It’s a ticking bomb waiting to go off!
Exactly - it's horrifying and breaks my heart 💔
This is a very well done and accurate video. Thank you for raising public awareness despite the very difficult nature of all of it.
I struggled immensely with watching it, and with having to watch it again while editing the video...
I really appreciate your kind comment! It means a lot as I work very hard to share research-based, best practices info! ☺️
Funny how you pop up..
Unfortunately the Augusto - Fans are blind and deaf if someone tries to make them see the truth . I don't understand why so many people that consider themselves "dog trainers" still insist on using prong collars and other "tools" , that is no training at all . I wonder why yt disn't already ban these cruel Augusto videos .
I just had a laugh , someone "reacted" on a training video of Zak George with a GSD and critizized everything , from the use of a muzzle up to touching the dog's head . When these people don't know how to defend their aggressive methodes , they become unfair .
Yes, and no matter what you say/respond/do it won't change the mind of those people and I refuse to waste my time and energy replying to those sorts of comments. If the comment is in good faith, then I will do my best to try and help though!
all I can say is thank you. No dog deserves this kind of abuse.
Please show more actual proof in how you deal with all kinds of dogs as you mentioned if all or everything that is wrong and the right ways of your perfect dog whatever you call it works , you can be perfectly negative madam , & no disrespect just my opinion .
Please use the links in the video description for additional information.
SHAME SHAME SHAME to these desperate owners who had their leashes over to this character. LOSE their dogs trust, let the animal becabused and DD proably knows it's wrong but kerps doing it. In my opinion this is all disgusting and I know a lot of other ppl who feel the same wayand think DD deserves to be treated tge way he treats dogs... IMO
I had to stop watching your video. You're not addressing the prong collars sold everywhere and put on the dog by the owner. The collar is used to pinch. Its made to cause pain. Augusto is using it as it was made and it is not illegal. You should be addressing the collar industries. Not targeting one guy because you were contacted by a known hate group. The court documentation about the animal sold is the only thing here thats of a legal matter. The rest is of opinions. Go after the manufacturing companies because thousands of pain inflicting collars are sold daily. You targeted one person. You're not targeting the real problems.
This is bazaar.. are these people bots? There are a few videos like this . I feel like this is a scam
Did you even use the additional information in the video description? Did you actually watch the video?
Why is he's still continuing what he's doing then...
For the same reason that all scammers do things - it's lucrative for them. There can also be psychological factors, a lack of education, a lack of ethics and a lack of legislation.
For the dog training world specifically, there's a huge lack of legislation that allows abuse and grifting to continue and so many lay people don't know any better.
First thing she brings up is how much money he’s making jealous
Incorrect. I am pointing out the significant motivation this person has to continue abusing dogs. My apologies for that not being clear.
Augusto needs to spend more money on his education and less on his wardrobe. Terrifying how these abusive individuals can gain momentum and popularity, with dog owners that don't know any better. Just an ego driven charlatan, and proof that this industry needs standards and regulations.
This is the worse dog's of all dogs ...others tried and failed...he did what it took to fix these dogs behavior
Did you even watch the video?
@VetMedCorner I'm watching, rewinding and rewatching and I'm going to watch your entire video because you took the time to create it but right now, I'm still looking for the pinch and I've taken it back several times. Where is this pinching? Is it the muzzle? That said, I'm not so sure that I agree that there's never any place for corporeal punishment, but I'm willing to hear you and others out.
Great video showing how awful that guy is, those poor dogs, I’m glad they have kept him out of Australia, there is no reason to make your dog afraid of you to get them to be well trained and balanced dogs. Positive reinforcement is the way to go, these people who want fast results really upset me, you take on the responsibility of a dog then you should put the work in it also continues the strong bond between you and your dog.
I also do not understand prong collars they’re illegal here, same as docking tails and ears thank goodness. I did the dog behaviour and training Qualification in Australia about 10yrs, just for myself, my current dog is the 5th rescue dog I’ve had , and 2nd one that’s been really badly abused, he is between 7 & 10yrs old I’ve had him for nearly 18 months, as he grew up in the desert in Central Australia in a remote community so packs of dogs, and hunting for food, he didn’t really have an owner, he isn’t reactive in any way with other dogs is great with cats. It has taken a good 12 months of slow gentle work to get him to feel a lot more confident, he was terrified of people when I got him, but he is a runner not a fighter, he can still get scared if I raise my voice like when he taught himself to unzip my backpack without damaging it and ate my lamb & salad roll I was about to have for lunch, as he comes to work with me every day too. But I did need to use fluoxetine from the 2nd month of having him for 6 months, as well just to get his anxiety down enough that he could learn that humans could be ok too, and also to lower it enough that he could focus on the training, he is covered in scars. We live on 16 acres so he definitely loves the space and the quiet. But he would have done really badly if someone else had adopted him and used aversive techniques with him, he needed a month before he decided to bond with me, and therefore want to train with me without thinking he was going to get hit. He is a really gentle dog he loves kids, apart from him being overweight because he keeps feeding himself rabbits on our property, he is the shortest dog I’ve had (medium) but the widest, it’s spring here so all the new baby rabbits have fattened him up, but we will make some headway again lowering his weight, he doesn’t even chase them he waits on top of their burrow and behind, that’s the trouble with smart dogs they always can game the system. I love him though so I take him as he comes and he is a totally different dog to the one I adopted in terms of his confidence, and especially his confidence in me to keep him safe, and he knows I’m always consistent with him.
You re all just jealous that he succes where your methods fail.
All this comment does is demonstrate your immense lack of knowledge about bmod.
Actually, 90% of his training fails in the long run, the methods just cause more stress.
Firstly I can not watch your videos due to the disingenuous way that you speak! Due to the nature of human communication when you speak in that absolutely dishonest manner you are telling people not to trust a word that comes out of your mouth. Which is unfortunate as I'm sure you are trying to do the right thing.