Secular Trend Says Stocks Could Rise Until 2035

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  • The incremental improvement in the stock market since the S&P 500's October 2022 low aligns with the secular trend thesis. What can we learn from long-term S&P 500 trends (1933-2023) in terms of the magnitude and duration of possible upside in the stock market?

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  • @mesutserim1595
    @mesutserim1595 Рік тому +151

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      @kaylawood9053 Рік тому +2

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    @mcginnnavraj4201 Рік тому +117

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      @trazzpalmer3199 Рік тому

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      @graceocean8323 Рік тому

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  • @dianarabbanii2
    @dianarabbanii2 Рік тому +110

    The erosion of my financial reserves due to inflation adds to my concerns. At this point, I require precise market trajectory information, but I find myself unsure about the appropriate course of action.

    • @naomigonzales9663
      @naomigonzales9663 Рік тому

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      @naomigonzales9663 Рік тому

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  • @foundatsea3483
    @foundatsea3483 Рік тому

    Very useful long take and historical charting. Really enjoyed the Chance Trend Meter look. Essential weekly lessons. Thanks Chris and Kathy

  • @jeffmueller9422
    @jeffmueller9422 Рік тому

    Chris, this is one of my favorite videos to date! Thank you my friend for all the effort to put these videos together! Let's all make some money!

  • @nyhammer1
    @nyhammer1 Рік тому +2

    Thank you for another great analysis

  • @ifern4545
    @ifern4545 Рік тому +1

    Thanks Chris, great presentation of facts as always, have a good weekend.

  • @marcusbrown6326
    @marcusbrown6326 Рік тому

    much appreciated as always great information for contemplation.

  • @qnn3449
    @qnn3449 Рік тому

    Thankyou for the presentation. Great information as always

  • @TimothyParker1
    @TimothyParker1 Рік тому +5

    I love your long historical views of the markets. Gives me confidence in my investments. Currently 100% in TSLA 😁

  • @GaneshD123
    @GaneshD123 Рік тому

    Out of the tunnel, heading into an open road. With the stock market, as in life, perspective is everything. Thank you Chris and Kathy for this secular update! Best Regards.

  • @ft9525
    @ft9525 Рік тому

    Great analysis as always thanks

  • @alexanderpacheco5081
    @alexanderpacheco5081 Рік тому

    Awesome Analyses. You are the BEST!

  • @marekan1410
    @marekan1410 Рік тому

    Prof trader here - +10K transactions/year over couple of decades now. Never looked at a chart like ... ever to place a trade, I did not know it was a thing in retail circles until recently. I find this channel engaging and useful, part of my weekly trading routine for couple of years now, perspective on what market participants are looking at and how they trade. Best wishes trading and investing!

  • @nick_g
    @nick_g Рік тому +4

    I’ve been talking about this secular trend a lot lately. We’re headed so much higher in 10-12 years. Especially Nasdaq

  • @0xSLN
    @0xSLN Рік тому

    You are the most credible analyst on the web, gl with the new ventures!

  • @jidatang7591
    @jidatang7591 Рік тому

    Thank you so much for your valuable knowledge 🙏😊

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    @mikeb6354 Рік тому

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  • @beau6113
    @beau6113 Рік тому +1

    Thank you!

  • @flyshacker
    @flyshacker Рік тому

    Excellent, and yes I remember your extrapolation in 2019 looking at the next peak to be around 2035. Realistic! 👍

  • @dianasong4594
    @dianasong4594 Рік тому

    thank u so so much

  • @Bev5000
    @Bev5000 Рік тому

    Absolutely love watching your long term analysis

  • @coloradobrad6779
    @coloradobrad6779 Рік тому

    3:40 I use CTM, thanks for including it!

  • @bryonseverns5919
    @bryonseverns5919 Рік тому +6

    Best stock market analysis I've ever seen.

  • @abecarranza7585
    @abecarranza7585 Рік тому +11

    I am telling you folks this is one of the most hated bull market rallies in Wall Street history. Where are all the false prophets who keep prophesying about the doomsday crash?. Let's keep crushing those bears! As always, thanks for all your great work Chris! :)

    • @user-xq2fz5tz9t
      @user-xq2fz5tz9t Рік тому +2

      Mega doomers? Surely you meant the top 5:
      - Maverick of Wall Street
      - Ron "Wrong" Walker
      - Money Time Machine
      - Jim Cramer
      - Ciovacco Capital

    • @Lawliet734
      @Lawliet734 Рік тому

      @Abe "...who keep prophesying [prophesizing] about..."

    • @Lawliet734
      @Lawliet734 Рік тому

      @@user-xq2fz5tz9t Cramer & Ciovacco are not "doomers." Walker is the worst with his 13-count & 9-count reversal signal BS.

    • @jeffreylindley845
      @jeffreylindley845 Рік тому

      PE = 26

  • @dominiquekrause4324
    @dominiquekrause4324 Рік тому +1

    Great analysis. I would love to see this analysis on the NASDAQ stock exchange.

  • @nick_g
    @nick_g Рік тому

    Excellent analysis

  • @jkauditor1
    @jkauditor1 Рік тому

    Great Facts!

  • @davebosworth1778
    @davebosworth1778 Рік тому

    10:00 Isn't it actually, rather than "the severity of the problems", but the psychology of the reaction to the severity of the problems?
    The mindset of those with the ability to influence the markets, and at what pace compared to 50 years ago. 75 or 100 years ago.
    One thing i heard at the mini-bank-crisis a couple months ago was how quickly with device access, how immediately the reaction was compared to when people had to call their brokers. Something that took days and weeks to happen did happen in an hour earlier this year.
    That has given me something to also overlay onto any historical references to current trends, current analysis.
    I don't quite know what it means, but maybe you could speak to that.
    I enjoy these thoughtful intelligent offerings. Appreciate you giving them.

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    @wells7147 Рік тому +19

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  • @ThePokersurfer
    @ThePokersurfer Рік тому +1

    My estimation based on incoming and current demographics in confluence with the fourth industrial revolution is year 2039 minimum up to 2045.
    Recession already occured on 1/1/22 thru Halloween 2022.
    SPX and NDX are in a present technical breakout ....... SPX 4600 by August, NDX 14600.
    2023 highs SPX 4800
    NDX 15750

  • @MrGottaQuestion
    @MrGottaQuestion Рік тому

    I don't understand how everyone is so bullish when the yield curve is still super inverted.

  • @dongmin382
    @dongmin382 Рік тому

    Tom lee also said 2035 for the end of secular bull market in a video. The reason was tied to spending power of 30s end then.. something like that.

  • @stevensmith8580
    @stevensmith8580 Рік тому

    One very large consideration your chart - which begins in 1933 - does not reflect is the 90% drop in the stock market in 1929. Is there no risk our very near future might experience a similar outcome?

  • @thinkpod4543
    @thinkpod4543 Рік тому

    looking at the charts you presented! I am 100% certain it’s a traders market! to continue a bearish down trend we need to break and hold below 2900!! It’s a traders reality! the market is making higher highs and higher lows! lol

  • @Cainoah
    @Cainoah Рік тому

    What do you mean by secular trends

  • @josephlim6934
    @josephlim6934 Рік тому

    SNP 500 in corrective mode now As long as Short Term Support at 4260, is not violated with a Daily Close, next upward test of minimum 4500 in the cards before the next correction takes place.

    • @jeffreylindley845
      @jeffreylindley845 Рік тому

      You are saying the same thing my Elliot Wave guy is saying.

  • @l.b.roemer2483
    @l.b.roemer2483 Рік тому

    You state consumption appears strong but how can you say corporate earnings haven't been hit when we have had two consecutive quarters of negative earnings growth for the S&P, which is a technical earnings recession.

  • @Ricardo-nd4gz
    @Ricardo-nd4gz Рік тому +3

    Just imagine what the inflation will be if s&p double or triple 😄

    • @jerad4336
      @jerad4336 Рік тому +2

      That’s the direction we’re headed, prepare for it.

  • @vawt1953
    @vawt1953 Рік тому +1

    Inverted yield curve says big recession soon

  • @ericmodernel9205
    @ericmodernel9205 Рік тому +3

    You can't see past the next 6 months.. Come on really

  • @deedsofdecapitation7477
    @deedsofdecapitation7477 Рік тому

    Technical analysis not withstanding, I don't think we can compare *relatively* "hard money" environments, with good strong fundamental growth in economies, from 1930s to the 1970s, with an easy money, fiat currency, endless money printing environment that started in the 1970s when Nixon went off the gold standard, and has gotten especially egregious since 2008. Imo the bear market periods will only start to increase. I'm referring to the chart at 18:42.

  • @yomajo
    @yomajo Рік тому +1

    Bonds yield 4%. Stocks yield 1%. So... why bonds down and stocks up?

  • @StockGenius152
    @StockGenius152 Рік тому +1

    🚀🚀🚀

  • @Lawliet734
    @Lawliet734 Рік тому

    The title implies he is predicting nothing but good things for the next dozen years. Do I still need to watch the video?

  • @stevenmix3723
    @stevenmix3723 Рік тому

    Interesting. But of course the 27 year trend is entirely random. It just looks like a pattern. There is no internal reason that any secular bull market should last 27 years, rather than 13 years, merely half that prior trend. We have had our 13 years. Of much more interest to me is the fact that we are in our 18th month of this correction. That is very, very long, for any secular bull to pause. So unless it suddenly breaks the years old high, I see it as topping.

  • @rocketPower047
    @rocketPower047 Рік тому

    deep into the red box, deep into the red box, deep into the red box, deep into the red box, deep into the red box, deep into the red box, deep into the red box,

  • @daverdh
    @daverdh Рік тому

    What are the forces behind a secular trend? It seems very irrational to me to put an arbitrary time on a bull market and ignore macro factors - high rates in a highly indebted economy. I do agree that markets will continue to ignore risks and maybe they are right. The Fed always seems to save the day and the asset holders come out way richer. Unless this time is different lol

    • @duezeri1968
      @duezeri1968 Рік тому

      I'm a know-nothing retail guy, but my interpretation is that "the institutions" stepped in every time the S&P hit the 50th month MA and saved the trend. Is that a direct result of Fed policy? I have no idea. That might be true over the last 40 years. But I'm not sure it's true for the entire analysis here.

    • @daverdh
      @daverdh Рік тому

      @@duezeri1968 good point on the current latest trend - it was institutions and not the fed. I more meant market participants are ignoring the dangers ahead but I guess thats the same thing. i.e. if there is a financial crisis, the fed will back stop the markets with more than enough liquidity to keep the secular trend going. so buy any dip as the fed has the markets back. such as the discount window for smaller banks etc. or preventing an upcoming credit crunch

  • @jeffreylindley845
    @jeffreylindley845 Рік тому

    The PE of the S&P is way too high with treasuries paying 5%. It’s completely illogical.

  • @revaddict
    @revaddict Рік тому +1

    Have to say that I do agree with this long term view of yours but this is quite scary especially if someone wants to invest in high beta stocks..

    • @danieldellaratta1554
      @danieldellaratta1554 Рік тому

      Why is it scary? Don’t you mean exciting?

    • @sebfox2194
      @sebfox2194 Рік тому

      Who wants to invest in high beta stocks?

    • @revaddict
      @revaddict Рік тому

      @@sebfox2194 I don't know man, maybe everyone that isn't you..?

    • @sebfox2194
      @sebfox2194 Рік тому

      @R N I'm just trying to figure out who you're talking about when you say "...this is quite scary especially if someone wants to invest in high beta stocks."

  • @Tarrymore
    @Tarrymore Рік тому

    Incredible catch at 38:38

  • @jackskal4302
    @jackskal4302 Рік тому

    we can always go back to history for data and comparison with the current situation, but back then there was no Russia/Ukraine war, inflation, rate hikes, China Vs USA cold war, anything can happen within a day or two and all these CMT data go bust, all I can sat risk what you can lose and sleep well.

    • @Lawliet734
      @Lawliet734 Рік тому +1

      @Jack "...all I can sat [say is] risk what you can lose..." Even in the past, there were wars, inflation, rate hikes, & the Cold War.

  • @user-lw6wx6om4p
    @user-lw6wx6om4p Рік тому

    are you at all concerned with the fed saying they will increase rates?

    • @ExctasyGFX
      @ExctasyGFX Рік тому

      It doesnt matter. Thats obvious information. The market knows it, and if it was a concern the markets wouldve accounted for that. You need to have respect for the market or you’ll get your cheeks clapper. Its ALL about sentiment and positioning. Being contrarian with big balls in this market pays off.

  • @PC-cs5wp
    @PC-cs5wp Рік тому

    Comparing to a WORLD PANDEMIC and 0 interest rates for 10 years?????????

  • @Chocolate_Croissant
    @Chocolate_Croissant Рік тому +3

    Plugs the investment after he lost it all during 2022 now trying to buy the 8 bar on the weekly chart and mega caps have 9 count on the monthly chart. Oof

  • @teenoso4069
    @teenoso4069 Рік тому

    Maybe. Maybe not

  • @jackgoldman1
    @jackgoldman1 Рік тому

    Are stocks "rising" or currency "falling"? Dow index was 18 ounces of gold in 1929 and 18 ounces of gold in 2022. Zero gain unless measured in Ponzi pixels and Ponzi paper. The real price never changes, only the fake price changes. Don't get fooled by Ponzi paper. Measure in honest gold and silver 3D money. Gasoline is the same price in 2023 as it was in 1960's measured in honest weights and measures, silver coins.

  • @Masterhughesproductions
    @Masterhughesproductions Рік тому

    and stock's could sink till 2035 this bull is worthless.

  • @sincitycapital
    @sincitycapital Рік тому

    Looking at the NYSE is kind of redundant

  • @dreamstorm3297
    @dreamstorm3297 Рік тому

    2026

  • @KTTatara
    @KTTatara Рік тому

    This means around 2035 the S&P will be over 9000!!!

    • @familei3349
      @familei3349 Рік тому

      And Social Security will be insolvent.

  • @dexterbarrett2085
    @dexterbarrett2085 11 місяців тому

    'PromoSM'

  • @earlymay5935
    @earlymay5935 Рік тому

    Good information but I do remember in early 2020 you were also saying the charts looked okay. So I take everything with a grain of salt.