Cecil Takes Invincible To The White Room | Invincible Season 3 | Prime Video
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- Cecil (Walton Goggins) leads Invincible (Steven Yeun) into the White Room after feeling threatened. Mark is now faced with cyborgs.
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The fact he can now one-tap an enemy that he couldn't even get close to beating in season 1 without Williams help is cool. His strength really has increased
And one that was probably upgraded a ton since then with Cecil’s resources.
Yes they literally tell you that at the beginning Einstein
Many shows and movies only say characters have gotten stronger and never show it, here they showed Marks progress by having him easily beat the new Reanimen instead of making it a close fight like other media would do
And lets not forget the fact that those robots were made in a littrel sewer whike these ones were created in a advanced rescerach Facility with the practiloy infinite resources of the us government
These appear to be weaker cyborgs. In Season 1, just three of these things held up Omni-Man for about a minute. They were causing him pain and required a fair amount of effort to be destroyed. These cyborgs should be at least as good as the earlier models, probably better. So, either Mark is now significantly more powerful than Omni-Man, these are weaker cyborgs, or we're all watching a highly entertaining cartoon that isn't always consistent with its internal logic.
Honestly, I have to admit Cecil is portrayed so much better than in the comics. You actually see multiple attempts from him to make Mark calm down, and only resorts to using the earpiece when it's clear that Mark will not stand down
Cecil may be simpathetic to Mark, but he's clearly paranoid after Nolan's betrayal.
So even when Mark can be trusted Cecil doesn't trust him.
And Cecil's maybe right about that he should be more sceptical but he also does a lot of questionable things later which shows how arrogant he is to think he can control a viltrumite.
So the best thing he should've done is to stay on Mark's good side and not show him his hidden weapons.
i disagree i like this version much better
@@nanevakand he is right to be paranoid after what Nolan did. Cecil doesn’t have to stay on mark’s good side and follow his every whim because mark is impulsive and short-sighted and doesn’t know what needs to be done. So his power has to be controlled. And what questionable things did Cecil do exactly?
@danangheloiu1499 Cecil is eventually proven right when even Eve is completely fed up with Mark's ego. Like he has to shove it down everyone's throat, but that alone causes problems even when it's seems to be the right thing.
Mark doesn't want to listen. I didn't like how Cecil behaved in the comics, here he's much, much better
@@CharltonHowardCecil is better in the SHOW I mean
The irony of Cecil needing a white room for protection when he is all about hiding in the shadow.
Hiding in plain sight is a thing
Everything about the white room screams hiding and secrecy
@@prod.superior5434 so nobody can have secrets? ok buddy tell me everything about youreself then
Also makes it easier to draw lol
@@adnan_honest_jihadist5775 literally nobody said anything of the sort 😂
"too deep to reach"
'then ill cut it out'
*proceeds to pull a superman in a barbershop lobotomizing himself in a mirror*
Hahaha I thought that too
with what laser eyes?
@@davidfisher9497 these! *strains to no avail *
@@xChimkin lil constipated there, budd?
A safe Superman means a safe metropolis!
"What if Invincible was BETRAYED and TRAPPED in the hyperbolic white room for a millenia?"
I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought of that from the thumbnail.
@@TheAzulmagia same here
Its an illusion, not another dimension, he can literally just fly straight up and through the building
This is the best comment here by a million miles, and only a handful of people will understand why 😔
He still needs food bro
God it’s refreshing to watch Mark win fights
He does though. You never watched the show?
@@AmericaChavez17 😂lol, enlighten us
@@AmericaChavez17Since… when exactly?
@@ThatdudeIsgonnabecomeahe-yp2ju Since Season 1, defeated Titan, Monster Girl, the Flaxan commander two times, Killcannon, most of Machine Head’s minions except for Battle Beast, Darkwing 2, Deep Dweller, the Mauler Twins before Angstrom summoned multiple variants of them, Dr Seismic, DA Sinclair, Sequids, Angstrom Levy and since this episode, Multi-Paul, Dropkick, Fightmaster and a whole platoon of Reanimen. Invincible only lost to what, Omni-Man, Battle Beast, Lucan, Thula and Anissa, all who are stronger than him.
@@Ronobuildstech so losing to only Battle Beast, Omni-Man, Lucan, Thula and Anissa is “losing every fight”. Now I know who never watched the show
Cecil is the literal definition of "anti-hero" ...he saves the world but he is not "good"
We can be the good guys, or we can be the guys who save the world
@slaw1448 my favourite quote 🔥
Actually I think Cecil is good, but he's pragmatic rather than idealistic.
There is literally no morally questionable thing he’s done up until this point.
@@zh0skiyebakaI haven’t seen the show, but I’d argue converting corpses into battle robots falls under desecrating the dead lol. Which, not only is seen as, you know, bad, is also, you know, illegal. So definitely morally gray.
One thing I love about Invincible is that it adds the right touch of realism to the superhero genre, it shows how noone is excempt from the consequences of their actions and that it is never as clearly black and white as one would imagine.
I'd agree with that
Unless of course you're invincible himself in which case you wind up ruling the Galaxy.
@@alexsolomon7991 Naturally, since this is still a piece of superhero media, my point is that, unlike more well-known hero brands like DC or Marvel, Invincible isn't afraid to disrupt its status quo by showing what it would be like if superheroes and villians regularly fought every day. And unlike The Boys, it never goes to the point of idioticly cynical nihlism.
@ewancook9107 not really. The Boys is better because it’s more realistic. Invincible isn’t satire. It’s literally similar to any DC, Marvel, Dragon Ball or One Punch Man shows
@@AmericaChavez17One Punch Man isnt really a super hero show tho, it just use super hero motif in your typical shonen genra exept the protagonist is as strong and as mentaly developped as any end game shonen protagonist
One key indicator is the lack of Clark Kent-like persona. (Or secret identity)
Heroes in OPM are always identified as such, they wore their suit everyday and even use their hero name in public
Its plain contrast with the comic book genra that emphasis the everyday life of super heroes, or their lack of normal life that made them super.
Point is OPM is closer to Naruto than any comics book
I like how it showcases Mark's growth with an enemy he struggled so much in the past.
Barely could take on 3, now he's dismantling an army. It's corpses this time around so maybe they're not that stronger but still, cool visual progress.
There is other video, where is showed Mark's training, and was addmited, that his raw strength has been grown by 130%/
@SlayerGGXX I meant it in an aspect of show not tell.
Sure we can always make made up numbers of how strong someone got but it's not until action you can actually tell if that's true or not.
This fight did that justice.
@@SlayerGGXX In different math, it’s 2.3x
Great cuzbim tired of OP superheroes from the getgo
@@myusername3689 no, it's 1.3x
It's ironic that the Reanimen's blood being brown rather than red makes it even more gruesome, really gives off the feeling of a rotting corpse forced to stay alive.
Yeah, and then Cecil wants to act like he's better than Mark when he literally let that guy make more of these creatures
I’m pretty sure it’s red in the show on Prime Video and it’s censored on UA-cam. Not sure tho I have to go back and watch the episode 😅
@@MetallicaFan5591 nope. It's brown
@@dorkyalien5059 I don't think Cecil thinks he's better than Mark. He literally implies that he's not a good guy, "We can be the good guys or the guys who save the world, we can't be both." Be realistic, are you gonna let heroes naively stick to their values, or are you gonna use every resource at your disposal to save the planet. If a b-tier villain like doc siesmic can lock them all up in underground eggs, then they don't stand a chance when the viltrumites arrive
@@MetallicaFan5591no its the same colour
Man, I love Cecil as a character in this show
Me too, I’d pay for a Cecil spinoff with Donald lol
same bcs hes right
Same. He is one of my favorites
@@adnan_honest_jihadist5775He’s right. But to the point where invincible and his brother are annoying tf outta me
@@drazzytime9353for real
Okay but that shot of Cecil activating the trigger goes hard
It"s so over the top for pressing a button lol
@@theenigma7290the teleporter is 7+ billion dollars per use.
When it comes to Cecil, we’re way beyond over the top by now.
Got to make sure to aura farm real quick
@@FC_mania 5 million dollar*
@@kaantax8666It’s 7 billion, not 5 million. The season 3 teaser trailer made that clear.
I find it interesting that Cecil didn’t order the Reanimen to attack. They did it on their own after seeing Mark attack one of their comrades, implying that they still have some intelligence/sentience left, since they can react autonomously.
Which shows that Cecil is NOT as in control as he thinks he is.
It's not that at all. They're all programmed. If that was true then the many others in the room should of also attacked.
Probably programmed with Mark's exact location in the room taken into account.
Season 3 already has 3 episodes out, go watch them - I don't consider telling you they're programmed as a spoiler, considering you're trying to make a false claim on something you lack specific information about - go watch the 3 episodes, they're great.
@@TheOfficialDjProduct but later on didn't he ask to shut down all reanimen and they STILL kept going after Mark?
or PROGRAMMING.
They’re programmed to defend cecil, whole would having him verbally say he’s in danger be a prerequisite?
Cecil is managing to be the scariest one of all...
As the kind of power he has was not something inherently given...
It is "earned" in the same manner OG Vultremite "earn" it...
With the added layer of knowing he was going to have this kind of fight with being most would submit to in a heart beat.
That level of confidence from a "normal" man is terrifying.
I’m pretty sure the being that can cause a catastrophe by hitting the ground or simply flying in a straight line is easily more terrifying
Because, Cecil is this show's version of Men are Brave.
Why am I on cecils side help
he isnt scariest, are you smokin? his points are right more then marks
He’s like a genius magician with multiple talent stacks and prep time and strategy expertise. Always has an ace up his sleeve.
both sides had a point Cecil knew Darkwing wasn’t bad only driven insane by being in Midnight City and Sinclair was using the Reanimen to help people but while Mark was being naive and self-righteous here he clearly showed how paranoid and egomaniacal Cecil can be in the comics
Yes, I hope darkwing ll makes a full recovery and uses his cool powers to help people after dealing with all that
I don't mind Cecil using Sinclair and Darkwing, especially since Darkwing seems genuinely remorseful, and the reanimen are great assets that can save tons of lives. But putting that device in Mark was a step too far.
While it makes logical sense he fails to realize actions like this break people's trust in him and makes them more antagonistic towards him, which ironically makes Cecil even more paranoid and wary of them.
This is especially hurtful since for all of Mark's failings and him losing control he has always acted in good faith with Cecil. Heck, he risked death with Anissa because he didn't even like the idea of joining Viltrum.
If you constantly act based on what might happen instead of acting on how things actually are you risk alienating people. People may use that "1% chance" as justification, but that fails to take into account the full picture.
And the hypocrisy of mark.
He forgives his dad cause he’s “changed” his dad is the biggest murderer in earths history.
Cecil is using darkwing 2 and sinclair for good and it’s implied is keeping them on a short leash. In marks world
Just because mark doesn’t forgive them means they don’t deserve it!
Honestly I don’t really think mark is right at all.
Sometimes to save the world you do have to be the bad guy. Cecil was almost 100% in the right.
@@adamvialpando106honestly it was abit to far but it’s kinda warranted…
Cecil trusted omniman for decades. If he had come up with a plan to stop omniman then they wouldn’t have lost thousands.
But they didn’t until it was too late. So he won’t take that chance again
@@sharkt9877 Sinclair tortured his best friends love interest and in Cecil’s words used intense mental rehabilitation “which means he messed with their brains”. Sinclair and the implant I can’t fully get behind for Cecil. Darkwing 2 is diff bc he was hearing stuff and was a good person originally.
That's batmen-level preparation
Ppl call him Waller for a reason
He’s the Waller of image comics
But not Batman level thinking. He handled it in the worst way possible.
@@Hyvexx Batman has bad (dumb) days in the comics.
Surgically implanting that earpiece during Mark’s surgery reminds me of Batman infecting Cyborg with a virus during their very first meeting
Mark really took that "fight like a Viltrumite" to heart
Honestly, when put in Cecil's position, Id do the same. When the fate of the entire planet falls in the hands of just one alien poping out of nowhere, I would also be willing to ignore the crimes of a person towards a bunch of people, provided he could be really helpful.
They are not in the position to be making ethically good choices right now.
There is a vultrimite observing mark and evaluating him to make him conquer this planet and others coming more ruthless than nolan who killed when it was a necessity. The one on his way enjoys war and slaughtering the masses.
Cecil is trying to play the cards they have right now, the heavy hitters that work for Cecil are weaker than vultrimites and are stretched thin tying to maintain order from the villains on earth. He is trying to gather as much firepower as he can get, so he is trying to redeem those he can work with and lock up or keep in line those who don't.
Two people in fact.
@@ismaelvillalba2827It’s funnier when combined with the fact that literally every hero got captured in the same ep and they were pretty much cooked, Mark’s thinking black and white when he needs to think about what makes more sense, hiring villains to help fend off a bigger threat or letting all the hero’s get killed and sticking to your principles? Be for real
I can definitely understand that and acknowledge how it saves lives. But putting a device in Mark's head to neutralize him is too far.
Cecil says it's because he can't entirely trust Mark, but actions like these are what breaks trust. It makes Mark MORE antagonistic and ironically makes Cecil's paranoia trust Mark less.
I don't mind Cecil's actions too much but he absolutely sucks at convincing others about them. He forgets that you need to have the trust and confidence of those you command.
"Hey these criminals that purposefully torment and maim people for their own selfish ends should be trusted, but the boy that almost got beaten to death to stop his own father from conquering the world needed extra precautions"
Cecil's failing isn't that he hired ex-cons, it's failing to be transparent with the people he worked with. Mark is naive, but he's rightfully angry when Cecil not only did things to his body without his consent, but also immediately resort to violence when questioned.
Finally marks not a punching bag I was hoping he was throwing hands this season
He still holds back too much way too inefficient at finishing fights Oliver outshined him easily, but the writers obviously had to make Oliver flawed in the way that he doesn’t care about his brutality
This season he’s probably going to be throwing the most hands in the entire series tbh
Wait for season finale
@@Jsaul- In the comics Oliver didn’t care either
@@ternative yeah but Mark is too soft, can’t really take his side against Cecil or Oliver
They framed this so perfectly. Both characters have justification for what’s going on for their own very valid reasons but each of them crosses lines that change this relationship forever. Showing Cecil’s past really shows how Omni man’s betrayal flipped that switch in Cecil where now no matter who or what nothing comes between him and what he thinks saving the world should entail. While mark very reasonably is upset about the reanimen while not wanting to have a debate over the morality even though as Cecil said they all were corpses unwilling prisoners. I think the worst thing is Cecil showed his hand about the device installed in mark like that is arguably the one thing that cannot be justified. I get he was afraid after nolan but doing this is what now set him at odds against mark vs if he had trusted him to begin with they might have found a way to make this work.
Exactly. Mark might have been convinced about Darkwing and Sinclair. He might have even been talked down from his standoff with Cecil. Cecil escalated matters when he brought in the Reanimen and used the sonic device.
And I'm actually on Cecil's side about Darkwing and Sinclair. The best way to do good and save lives is having these previously dark individuals use their talents for the betterment of the citizens.
But he broke Mark's trust in him. Ironically Cecil's actions are making Mark more distrustful and antagonistic towards him which then makes Cecil feel kinda vindicated for his caution. But if you only act based on what might happen you won't be able to see how things actually are.
He had great justifications for many of his actions, like what happened with Donald. But just like with Donald Cecil absolutely sucks at explaining things properly.
@@adamvialpando106no. Mark wouldn’t have been convinced dude
Not just that, but I’ve seen so many arguments about who was right and who was wrong. It really fits the whole “moral grey” theme they have been pushing.
@ I’d argue not really. Normally yes. But in this moment Cecil is preparing for war against a god like race.
The only thing that’s hurt said god like race (three times mind you) is this. The reanimates.
And sending them to the void also works
@@sharkt9877 Cecil told mark to stop and Mark literally said “not until you tell everyone what you’ve done” he just wanted transparency for himself and the others.
Glad to see the animators stretch their legs with this one!
"you've been living here as long as you can remember"
Watch out for the stairs in the way out
oyasumi
OMORI😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱
Hmm
Waiting for something to happen?
I don't understand why people love how Batman has contingency plans for all of his superhero friends, but when Cecil has some for mark and others, everyone takes issue with it.
Batman did it over decades. Cecil did all of it in months XD
Pretty sure most of us can tell that Cecil is the bad guy at this point buddy 😂
@brokenman58 so because Cecil took less time to do it that means it's bad? I don't understand that logic
@brokenman58I mean when you have the entire budget and the best mindsof the country maybe even the globe things can be done much faster.
@@dangolwhocares6821he said it himself “be the good guy or be the guy who saves the world, you can’t be both”
Can't believe Mark got trapped and betrayed in the hyperbolic time chamber 🙏
I hate you for this reference.
What
Have to say, I'm on Cecil side with this one. He's giving Darkwing a chance at redemption and using the ReAnimen do to good. And while the device in Mark's head is extreme is arguably justifiable, like image if Mark got possessed. Meanwhile Mark is being a self righteous hypocrite. He gave his mass murdering dad a second chance and even fought with him last season against the 3 Viltrumites. Cecil is doing the same thing with Sinclair.
Finally someone said it!!!Plus if he was going by his own logic , first thing Mark should've done is turned himself in
Cecil had a good point, but was so wrong here. He majorly escalated a situation by literally jumping and nearly killing mark
Both of them are being hypocrites. Mark really isn't threatening anyone - he isn't the guy trapping another guy in a room full of goons to jump him lol. Cecil is projecting.
@akaneriyun4774 Mark could of left, or calmed down. I'd definitely say Cecil has every reason to feel threatened right now.
@@twinzzlers mark wasn’t violent at all until Cecil forced him to be
“I thought you don’t make threats”
“People change”
Well great Mark. Now you just justified why Cecil is doing this
Well, Cecil also brought Mark into a room of zombie cyborgs, I'd say that's pretty threatening.
Just three of those things were giving him a hard time in Season 1.
Ya after Cecil already antagonized him
@@slothguy8826 oh absolutely lol. It’s a complete Self feeding loop
Mark is an idiot an a complete hypocryte, he helped his dad who is a mass murderer but if Cecil uses Sinclair IQ to build robots (made of donated corpses) and Darkwing reforms himself and saves people that is a bad thing. Darkwing and Sinclair dont even killed a fraction of the people that Nolan massacred.
@Catarssis347 Helped him do _what?_
I dare say that this was the best episode of season 3. That is until the rest of the episodes come out.
This was so good. The next two episodes were very good too
no one else brought up this point, but Mark has a tendency to just disappear. Last season it was because of his dad, and later in the comics he's gone for months MULTIPLE times. Earth cannot rely on a guy to keep them safe when he can't stick around, they ABSOLUTELY need to use every single resource available to them
Yeah then maybe it'd be more productive to focus on general weapons that can neutralize Viltrumites instead of trying to control an emotional teenager.
@@Hyvexx Yeah, the invading Viltrumites aren't going to come with implanted earpieces. Y'know what's useful? The central nervous system gun from Episode 3.
I cant help but agree with Cecil when it comes to using every resource they have. Mark is strong sure but the viltrumites are next level he is going to need all the support he can get.
It's interesting that Cecil only threatens to use the earpiece when Mark says "People change." as a threat, literally two minutes after saying he doesn't make threats. For someone as paranoid as Cecil, if Omni-Man's son changed his mind so quickly, what else might he change his mind about?
Saying something in the heat of the moment is not a solemn declaration of intent. Cecil was aiming a proverbial gun at Mark.
@@howlingdin9332 Someone aim a gun to a guy in a fit of rage and say "im not gonna hurt you" right after shooting someone else? do you really believe anybody would take the chance to dialogue in this position?
Mark is in the wrong here dude, just accept it
1:56 you can see Cecil's amazement changing into disapointmen that they died so easily to a viltrumite
I thought you don’t do threats.
“You literally threatened me like 7 times in the last 3 minutes.”
It’s hilarious how hypocritical mark was in this senario
@@sharkt9877 brother I’m with mark, man got threatened like 10 times before he said a word
@ excuse me?… Cecil didn’t THROW. A threat until mark threatened him multiple times!
Please watch the show.
“I’m not leaving until they are behind bars!”
Says this multiple times which is indeed a threat.
Is acting mega aggressively and even throws the first punch.
Mark is HANDS DOWN. The bad guy
@@sharkt9877 It's not really a threat, just a statement that Mark will not leave. And he can fly, so like, good luck dragging him out by force.
Mark does throw the first punch, but only after Cecil surrounds him with Reanimen, which is a threat in of itself.
@@spartanc173 The Reanimen touched him first, thus they were the one who escalated. Mark did not start that fight
“I’m not doing anything”.
It seems Mark doesn’t understand that how you act and demeanor can say a lot.
Yes, he was being absolutely threatening from the beggining. Cecil didn't handle it well (justifiably so, anyone should be terrified of Mark), but Mark is far from innocent in this scene.
He also agrees with Cecil that certain people should be forgiven like his dad last season and his brother in the next episode when he murders the maulers after they had surrendered. So it’s weird that mark gets so heated about dark wing and reanimen who are being used for good. It makes him seem very selfish like only he can pick and choose who can be redeemed.
@@GabrielSoares-zw9khAgreed. Mark deadass murdered a reaniman for doing his job during the last Doctor Seismic debacle.
@@cfl4286I think the reason he forgave Omni-Man and Oliver but not Darkwing and Sinclair is because the first 2 are family while the other 2 were villains in his mind when he first encountered them. I also believe that it might be the case that he saw Omni-Man reform and is trying to train his brother to be better, but he was so angry that Cecil was using Darkwing and Sinclair that he’s not able to see them trying to be better and only sees them as the villains he defeated and thought were just thrown in jail. Not defending Mark as I also believe he was being naive, just saying what could be going through his head
@@theblackknight6873 yeah I hear you. It’s a totally normal and human thing to do to be biased towards family and friends. Mark will probably learn he can’t be so partial soon and that he has to make some tough decisions just like Cecil does. Like he says, be the good guy or the guy that saves people. Maybe he already has realized this lol I haven’t finished the new season yet.
1:50 Impact frame on a tight budget
1:50 Really hoping we get more scenes like this
Of what, Mark getting angry?
@@sonichart1364 impact frame
@@sonichart1364 no. Mark doesn't need to be angry. In times of war the last thing we need is a protagonist who can't control themselves
He really exploded that reanimen brutally😂
@@Diamondr11BlueMark getting angry and crashing out is epic and cinematic🔥. That's how he beat Conquest, twice😂
I can't be the only one rooting for Cecil here, right? He is just such a badass.
Yeah Cecil is the real hero
Mark really is forgetting that most living on earth don’t have the luxury of seeing the work in black and white.
EXACTLY. He doesn't understand the need for insurance because he's "Invincible". He wants people to live off faith even though his people's mission is to enslave the earth, and they've also seen him beaten within an inch of his life. He's like Cecil said, a hypocrite, even if unintentionally.
@@brandongaspard1738 I agree with all of that, but I do not understand the hypocrite part. Could you explain?
He wants his dad to redeem himself because he came from a viltrum society that programmed him to be that way, but why make an exception for one murderer and not another? @@Eigelstein
@@Eigelstein the hypocrisy comes in where he's willing to forgive his father and all that's he's done but he's unwilling to compromise his morals for the villains that Cecil is rehabilitating
@@brandongaspard1738 which show his hypocrisy bcs he prefer family of non-family
2:28 chill Mark, your omniman is showing😅😅😅
Well he is Omni mans. Son 😂😂😂😂😂
@@kodesh1674but he is no clone
Just watched episode 60 yesterday lol
The animation is much more impressive now
And just like that, Cecil's point is flawlessly proven.
I like how quickly his wound is healing. It is impressive details
“I’M NOT EVEN DOING ANYTHING!”
**proceeds to approach Cecil in a threatening manner**
Mark… you literally said you weren’t leaving until Cecil did something you demanded him to do. He was having a calm reasonable conversation with you and you escalated things. All you had to do was calm down.
Mark went omniman mode
Well they're robots not actually humans so he could tell them because they're not human
You saw how he squished the zombies head at the hq, it reminded of Red Rush death
@@mexican_boi203 that whole fight scene in the guardians hq was a big reference to omni man killing the old guardians, was super hyped
@@_RG99_ didn't peep that ......wow
@@_RG99_ yeah someone on Reddit put the scenes together and they looked very similar its crazy
the animation in this fight is incredible
It's ok. I watched season 1 and the Atom special a few days ago and it's still not at that quality sadly. Worried about the conquest fight
I'm happy they bumped it up more
They’ll probably save the really good animation for the conquest fight
Idk man. Invincible has prolly got the lowest quality animation i have seen for sometime.
Season 3 episode 2 really went hard.
STOP TEASING AMAZON! GIVE IT TO US!
Shouldn't you let them buy you dinner first?
It literally released almost 6 hours ago
@@doodskie999 FR they are testing people's patience
all 3 episodes have been out for hours lol
@@Rayne_29Dude they released 3 episodes before the clip dropped on UA-cam.
I agree with Mark on an ethical level, but Cecil makes more sense
You can either be the good guy or the guy who saves the world
Cecil is such a fantastic character, this show just gets better and better
2:04 you can see the concern in his eyes. He doesn’t want to do this. Cecil literally doesn’t. I will stand by I think Cecil is in the right here.
He doesn’t throw the first punch and try’s to talk mark down again and again.
Mark is being a hypocrite. It’s his way or the highway.
Omniman did worse things then darkwing and sinclair combined times a thousand!
Cecil is actively antagonizing mark though. He's instigating everything that's happening
@@cherrycoyote55 are… you high? Please dude please watch the show.
Cecil try’s to walk away.
Mark refuses to leave
Cecil begs mark to go home
Mark gets more angry,
Cecil trys to explain
Mark says it’s “my way or the highway!” And he won’t go home until his brand of justice is served.
Cecil goes into the room specifically made for stopping mark cause mark is THREATENING HIM.
He continues to ask mark to go home. To please calm down. He points out marks hypocrisy. Saying he refuses to see it any other way.
He asks mark to please calm down and talk to him.
Mark aggressively approaches him.
A reanimate steps in his way stopping him.
Mark gets more aggressive. A reanimate grabs his arm to stop him.
Mark throws the first punch and Cecil CONTINUES TO ASK MARK TO PLEASE STOP.
@@cherrycoyote55 homie you did not watch the show
With how easily mark takes down these guys kinda shows that he’s now currently stronger than omni-man was in season 1 because he had a lot more trouble beating Just what like 3 or 4 of these guys
These are upgraded models, too.
Mark has become way stronger than he was in season 1. But he's not even close to Omni Man.
Just remember that Mark had thought these before, at the time Nolan didn’t so the comparisons not fair enough
Lol, no. This show is pretty inconsistent with its powerscalling, but I can guarantee you he's still not even close to Omni-Man's level. He still loses to every single one of the Viltrumites from season 2, except maybe Thula (that woman he almost beat on Thraxa). It takes more than a little training to take out people who've been doing it their whole lives, and who live for thousands of years.
Keep in mind that they were attacking Mark 1v1, and that Mark was out of breath after beating them. Nolan got jumped by 3 (admittedly potentially weaker models), but once he was able to get his bearings he beat them pretty easily.
Mark is being such a hypocrite here. He’s not gonna realize the error of his perspective until he fights powerplex which in a way will be good because the fights after that will require a very different headspace
The moment Cecil went from Nick Furry to Amanda Waller.
Don’t ever disrespect Cecil like that again. He’s nothing even remotely like Waller. Waller would’ve taken Debbie and Oliver hostage.
And probably murdered Oliver as a warning.
Cecil is WAY nicer than Amanda Waller.
@@MegaMighty Legit, he's still Nick Fury, maybe even better since he's willing to forgive someone like Darkwing II.
Honestly I'm with Cecil on this one. Yes he uses the villains Mark captured to further increase the firepower of the government, but in a world where alien threats can break into the presidents bunker with nothing but a flick of their finger, he is absolutely correct to do so. Mark is his greatest ally, but he is also still young and see's the world too much as good vs bad. Cecil knows it's more complicated than that and you have to get down in the mud with the worst of them to be able to survive.
I was with Cecil on this until he escalated the situation by literally jumping mark. He turned this scenario violent
@@Derp-rz1nn he only turned violent when Mark started to threaten him
@@ArgusAlone He didn't threaten Cecil he was just walking towards him.
@@ArgusAlone he never threatened him until Cecil walked him into a trap with cyborg robots
@@punkypony5165 If you walk towards a person and that person clearly shows signs of feeling threatened, then you don’t continue to walk forward. The rational solution to this is Mark coming to terms with the fact that most people would be scared of him in this scenario as he can literally rip them in half with a sneeze.
Honestly after Omni-Man I’d be paranoid too. Omni-Man betrayed all of them, and we all saw in most universes Mark is actually bad. So yeah, it’s low, but Cecil’s cautiousness is valid. It’s like a Batman contingency plan, he doesn’t WANT to use it, but will if he has to.
Ok but Cecil doesn’t know about the other marks and at no point he had evidence for mark to be like Omni man, mark shows multiple time to be good.
But I do get it.
This Series needs to get some rewards. never been more excited for a series
I love how human their confrontation is, both of them are partially right and partially wrong. Cecil in my opinion is right on resocializing bad guys (honestly he was in the same spot mark is right know, so he knows how it is), Mark Thinks he can protect everyone and using shady tactics like Cecil is not necessary, but the truth is he can't be everywhere at the same time.
The problem is both are so sure they are completely right that they refuse to concede even a little to each other. Mark needs to learn that if he truly wants to save lives then he cant always act like a hero. And Cecil needs to learn that if he keeps everyone at a distance and always harbors mistrust about their loyalty he will push people away and create the very situations he hopes to avoid
I’m going to be straight… Cecil was kinda in the right?
First marks being a hypocrite. He forgives his dad who did significantly worse than anyone Cecil has protected. And Cecil’s #1 is protecting earth.
2. Mark is being mega aggressive. Refusing to leave and saying “I won’t leave till I get my justice” and threatening Cecil.
Cecil never attacks mark until mark throws the first punch.
The bots just stand there and protect him.
I think he went alittle far in the end. But mark is acting like a child throwing a temper tantrum. Cecil is 100% in the right here.
He’s disabling a threat. And I’m not a fan of how everyone takes marks side
Yeah man. Cecil tried to talk him down in a good manner, he was reasonable, he gave him multiple chances to calm down.
@@dirkauditore8413 he said “please stop this mark let’s talk”
“Go home mark”
Even tried pointing out mark’s hypocrisy. Hoping he would leave but he didn’t
Here it is clearly shown how much stronger Mark has gotten. In the beginning he was getting pummeled by 1 that was made in a sewer.
Here, it takes several dozen to overpower him, and these are made using state of the art equipment and futuristic technology.
He asked mark to go home multiple times. Mark was the aggressor and villain in this scenario. For some reason mark keeps forgetting theres a whole planet of people like his dad coming. A whole planet full. For some reason he thinks cecil doing what hes doing is wrong?? Thats wild.
But Mark wasn't actively threatening Cecil. I agree with most of what Cecil did and Mark pushed things too far and didn't let Cecil explain. But Cecil needlessly escalated things when he brought in the Reanimen. The sonic device was too far.
Cecil says he wants to trust Mark. But trust is a two-way street. And he broke that trust. Especially because it happened when Mark was at his most vulnerable.
Mark is being extremely short-sighted and even kinda hypocritical about Darkwing and Sinclair considering he forgave Nolan, or at the very least gave him the benefit of the doubt. He should be willing to extend the same courtesy to Cecil since both care about saving lives.
But the sonic device was too far, especially because that for all of Mark's failings he has never wavered in the face of Viltrum or about saving others. He risked dying to Anissa because he didn't even wanna fake like he sided with them. If Cecil still can't trust him that's on Cecil. There's only so many things Mark can do to prove he won't turn crazy. If you only plan for things that MIGHT happen then you will blind yourself to how things actually are. Cecil's paranoia made Mark not trust him and made him hostile. Especially because his adrenaline was up from a deadly fight
The problem with both Mark and Cecil is they are both so convinced that they are completely right that they refuse to see from the other point of view.
@@adamvialpando106Cecil didn’t needlessly escalate things… mark was scaring him. You can be threatening without words.
Mark was acting aggressive. Saying “I won’t go home until my justice is served! It’s my way or the highway!”
This dude is a GOD to humans! Besides the chip in his head NO ONE can stop him.
@adamvialpando106 Mark in and of himself is a threat. He has the power of multiple nuclear bombs. He is a threat. He was angry enough to leave the battlefield and go talk to Cecil and follow the man into his office after Cecil said multiple times that he needs to leave. Mark said that he wasn't gonna leave until Cecil did what Mark wanted him to do. So that's basically a threat because who could make Mark leave?
The sonic device was a breach of trust. But I don't blame Cecil for it. Mark can't be trusted, hes too emotional and that's dangerous. In the multiverse he's turned on humanity multiple times and his people are coming for earth, who knows what technology etc they have that might turn Mark against the earth. Who knows. It was an opportunity that I don't think I would pass up if I was tasked with protecting humanity. i would do whatever it takes to make sure we make it out alive. And if that means making myself into a villain etc to get the job done so be it. It's all for humanity's survival. I don't want to look back and think and feel like I had an opportunity and I didn't take it. That's people's lives on the line.
@@Dr.Beetlejuice110 Cecil is in the right.
I think he went to far in the end (using the device more then he needed to when mark ran)
But dude is mortal. Mark could end him in a blink. And mark is acting like he’s gunna.
He’s saying “it’s my way or the highway Cecil!”
Even without saying it
@sharkt9877 basically. I hate that he didn't have a recording of him telling Mark to leave multiple times and Mark refusing to leave.
1:04 love the steam coming out of his mouth, big anime vibes like attack on titan and stuff
It's 1:1 of the armored titan charging in Season 1 lol
Cecil is absolutely correct, mark barged into the pentagon and started making demands with the threat of violence. Rather than see Cecil as someone whos views should hold equal weight to his own, he is doing what his dad did and thinking of him as less.
Cecil crossed the line with that one
The fact he had to use it proves otherwise.
@@k_hack9441mark was intimidated and attacked first
@@k_hack9441mark was angry and yelling, Cecil escalated it by pulling him into a physical confrontation
@@flavjetto123I agree mark just ripped a dudes jaw out because Cecil called him out
Why is nobody mentioning that Cecil did NOT tell the Reanimen to stand down?
Can’t wait to see this, but still boycotting Amazon!
Cecil may be right but at any point he seems to want to de-escalate the situation, he was just trying to make Mark do the first move to test his new toys against him. He just accepts absolute submission and threw away his best asset because of that
No, like Cecil said, "You're a hypocrite. you can forgive your murdering father, but God forbid anyone else make a mistake?" Mark is a naive teenager who only understands life from his "Invincible" perspective.
I understand where Cecil was coming from but he went too far. Mark almost lost his best friend to Sinclair reanimated robots and he expects him to just brush it aside? Anyone would react the same way Mark would and Cercil forgets that even his father is Omni Man, Mark grew up on earth and reacts like any human would do. Cercil went too far, it seemed like he was looking for a reason to since the Omni man incident@@brandongaspard1738
@@brandongaspard1738 He said that after he revealed he betrayed Mark when Mark was at his most vulnerable like you think Mark would want to hear that at that point, he should of got to that near the very start of the conversation
@@brandongaspard1738and Cecil himself is a hypocrite because I doubt he would forgive Nolan if he came back… Cecil doesn’t even forgive Darkwing or Dr, he literally only “forgives” them because he has control over them and doesn’t view them as threats. He doesn’t trust anyone, Mark wanted Cecil to give transparency to himself and the others but he couldn’t do that.
@@AsianNIGMAHow does that make Cecil a hypocrite? Would you forgive Omni-Man? Cecil wouldn’t but he’d still be open to letting omni man help again if he had a safeguard in place. It’s not a matter of trust. Mind control, manipulation, etc. There’s way too many variables and Cecil makes sure he has a contingency plan for everything. it’s Batman level preparation for the worst case scenario. Cecil is completely justified. He was already betrayed once.
0:03 I love that face Cecil is cold and is making a pretty good case for himself
Cecil taking over that supe/alien prison is the prequel miniseries I need
I dont get why these weebs on twitter keep saying the animation is bad. Where? S1 CGI background characters maybe, but even then its servicable and doesn't break the immersion
They want the characters to look oiled up, like in anime. That does not equal good animation.
I was complaining about the animation for other reasons before seeing these episodes, but so far, it's been good, besides the Multi-Paul fight.
@@erikpng The art style is quite flat tbf, which is unlike the comics
The animation is simply lacking you can look at something like avatar or korra and see how much better animated it is, I don't even have to being up something like castlevania to show how much Invincible pales in comparison
twitter is literally just people complaining lol
It's great
Cecil takes mark grayson, a highschooler, into a strange unknown location secret room? Cecil is a diddy reference confirmed?
Mark isn't even a high schooler, Mark is in his college age, well used to be in College before he missed too many classes
dumb
This comment is just dumb
let's not.
Cringe
Cecil and Tek Knight now have something in common. I liked the diddy cave 😌
Lol
Another unfunny comment. Seems you're copying the other guy. And of course, it's the anime pfp guys who are this perverted...
@@erikpng I don’t talk with the normies, go to ur church or smth
@@kigatomi33 You should go to church buddy,
@@iwillgethagh ew
I love how Cecil isn't too proud to admit he's scared. Mark's power, Nolan's power, the power of the rest of the Viltrumites scares him and he's doing everything he can to stop them even if it means working with people like Sinclair. He would love to be the good guy. But he needs to be the guy who saves the world
I can already tell Cecil regrets giving Mark that hardcore training!
Kinda funny how even the undead cyborgs attempted to de escalate it by jus putting its hand on his shoulder.
Being like dude stop..
I love how everyone agrees Cecil is in the right here
Are we reading the same comments?
@ there’s a lotta people saying they’d do the same in his position.
That one detail with the reani-men breaking his own arm punching Mark
If I get put in a world where my entire race is constantly being threatened by multiple species from outer space, then I would do the same as Cecil, by gathering every weaponry recourses that I can get my hands on, even if I have to work with criminals or maniacs. This is no longer the battle for what is right, but for the survival of my entire civilization
Cecil is making valid points but at his core, this is really about controlling Mark. People are tools to him, and when they step outa line they become threats that must be contained or destroyed. It makes perfect sense given his own experience to make counter-measures in case hero’s go rogue given how powerful they are, but resolving an disagreement by luring Mark into a room full of monsters the minute he feels threatened ISNT how you keep the most powerful hero in the world on your side. By trying to exert control on Mark like this he’s pushing him further away.
For real dat was such an awesome scene I had to watch it over and over again
These intensity was overwhelming
2:47
Really don't get how this part of Cecil pressing the button goes insane for me
Mark is fighting like a viltrumite more, ISNT a punching bag, and I love that the showrunners and animators had the same idea with how he dispatches the Re-animen. it puts shock and horror on cecil's face (albeit shortly) to see him fight in way he saw his men in marks house get dispatched (S1)
Edit: He's not trading punches, isnt going for knockouts, he's slicing through, punching beyond, and tearing. Blood and limbs everywhere.
He was never a “punching bag” he got beat by people who were MUCH stronger than him like Battle beast, Nolan and Anissa.
Has anyone ever actually 'calmed down' after someone else tells them to calm down, especially when they werent really that angry to begin with? Cuz I gotta say, i dont think its the winning strat here.
Still blows my mind that Cecil is voiced by Walton Goggins. I can’t even tell it’s him, I had no idea he had so much range.
Am I the only one who thinks Mark is acting completely immature in this episode?
the show seems to be drawing parallels between him and his father.
He's like...only 20 or 21 here right? Seems about right for that age to make a dumb mistake.
@@Vomer0 hes 19 im pretty sure
I mean yeah he is pretty young and the reanimen issue is personal to him.
1:35 I like how the reanimens hand bends as he punches Mark. Cool detail imo.
Best season 3 episode yet
“Speak softly, but carry a big stick.”
…but you probably want to add the side note of maybe speaking softly without brandishing that stick. 😅
Trying to talk someone down that you lied to while having active threats surrounding them menacingly doesn’t de-escalate things all that well.
Unless it was a “pressure test” to see how far they could push Mark’s loyalty.
…cue Oliver; a younger more impressionable Viltrumite they can maybe condition more effectively; oh, Cecil, you magnificent (terrible) b*stard…
You're speaking likes Mark himself wasn't a threat here wjen je was acting hostile. They both were wring
Hot take, Cecil was almost entirely within the right, sure maybe not taking him down in front of the guardians was cool but the whole reason this started, Cecil was justified for what he was doing
In all fairness, he killed them quickly, which is more than can be said for Cecils victims.
The moment Mark turned a man into confetti, I was like "Thank goodness he grew up reading comic books."
Look at his little brother.
I haven't seen robot corpses since Samurai Jack.
The actual conversation between mark and Cecil, the screaming in agony, the tension between the two in the comic is lost here💔
The whole topic of Cecil using Darkwing 2 and the Reaniman is a grey area that I can understand, but what he did to Mark was NOT Right. Mark confronted him, but Cecil was the one who escalated the situation.
Bro he gave him like 20 chances to leave and he refused every single time he was threatening cecil what did you expect him to do, just lie down and die?
@@KanderUdonI'm watching it right now. After everything Mark has seen and been through, you would think he would have more understanding. Like Cecil said, "You're a hypocrite. You're quick to run off and help your murdering dad, but God forbid the rest of us make a mistake". I'm really starting to dislike Mark as a character.
This is why Cecil is the right man for the job
He's always ready for everything
I guess Cecil really is...
"Just stand down and we can talk this over" says the guy who literally started it
I personally think Cecil just wanted to see if the Reanimen were strong enough to face Mark
Cecil’s fears is not unfounded either. Reminder THIS Mark was the only ever good Mark in the Multi-Verse at this point in time, but there was no guarantee Mark might not betray Earth later. So insurance in place.
Also reminder: Cecil could have killed Mark here if he really wanted to. The sound waves makes him temporarily vulnerable. If a bomb was shoved in his mouth right now then his “durability” won’t matter.
And when the Viltrumites come, who's gonna fight them if Mark isn't around? These pathetic zombies? Not a chance.
Cecil isn't looking at the bigger picture here. He's correct in amassing power but he's COMPLETELY incorrect in antagonizing the one person in the world who stands a lick of a chance against the greatest threat imaginable. He shouldn't be finding ways to CONTROL Mark, but rather finding ways to enrich him and gain his loyalty.
@@akaneriyun4774 Yeah, yeah Mark could totally stop Viltrumites
C´mon he got his sht kicked by every Viltrumite he met
Wonder when we'll see the "What if Mark was betrayed and trapped in the white room for 1000 years?" videos.
In a way Cecil had a point on Mark
Mark can be unpredictable and judgmental specially on Darkwing
Darkwing may be rough on the edges but he still good in him
Sinclair is necessary to have because his technology
As long he has a long yet tight leash if he double cross
Just saying in general
Nah he didn't have a point. It's a betrayal of Mark's trust, and Mark has every right to do what he does.
@@Seifer8 Actual smooth brain
@@Seifer8exactly, like I was with Cecil before he escalated the situation to violence
@@feeadftth ok so when the Viltrumites come, Cecil can rely on Darkwing and Sinclair instead of Mark, yeah? Who's the smooth brain now? Lol
I geeked so hard when I saw this oml!!!! can't wait for more episodes
Mark: DA Sinclair and Darkwing killed dozens of people, they’ll never change!
Cecil: Omni man killed thousands and wrecked half of Chicago, but he’s good now because he shacked up with a bug and “cares” now? Cmon kid at least be a little consistent
I do love when the protagonist gets a power boost from training.
Its been done again and again but still
Mark is a very big Hypocrite. Because he thinks that Darkwing and Sinclair shouldn't be given the chance to redeem themselves but his father can.
Darkwing was worth rehabilitating. The only reason why he went crazy was because the curse of that city and losing his mentor. He has really interesting abilities and I hope we see more of him, if he really hopes to make up for stuff
And also didnt he literally help a criminal become a kingpin?
@@Rqblt Yes he did. And he literally never confronted him again. That guy orchestrated the prison break in season 3 episode 3.
@@excalibur2596 this happened this season? So u mean u seen it, spoilers dude
@@Rqblt Yeah I've seen the new episodes and I was just pointing out what the kingpin did to reinforce your point. Didn't think it was that much of a spoiler.
god i really hope they retcon they way cecil meets his end, he is well written in this series and honestly, the fact he didn't see it coming makes it so weak.