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Great video!! So for PvE only, run Kutum til 249ap, then switch to Nouver for 261ap, til 273ap Nouver, switch back to Kutum for 261ap. Then for PvP, Eva runs Kutum, and DR runs Nouver. Pretty simple, thx again, great video!!
I DID NOT KNOW THIS! Thank you so much for clarity on the brackets as i am sitting at roughly 260 and been using K as i wasn't aware of N brackets thank you thank you
For people watching this before oasis ends, you can always pick up a tri Ramones from Elle (oasis vendor) The tri Ramones is a tri Nouver. That's 1 silver for 10 or 11 AP! I used one temporarily to hit 261 a while back
You left out an important benefit Kutum has, which is 10% resistance penetration, which is an important offensive factor. Landing a CC means certain win in many cases. At that point, your AP really does not matter so much. CC means death.
This is true but never has 10% resist, and sometimes resisting the second cc means living. I pretty much didn't discuss it because there are benefits to both offhands passives just in different scenarios
nice content. may i request a guide on how DR works? evasion vs accuracy is all over the net already. cant find any dr guides(about how its damage mitigation works).
I think you have missed the part that we get a flat % damage reduction from DP alone, aside from the eva/dr relationship. And dr players can easily break opponent's hitcap with endgame gear+%30 special evasion.
The extra 2% flat damage reduction wearing a kutum instead of a nouver isn't worth the ap loss. Sure you get tankier, but the trade off isn't even close to worth it
@@ImChoice it is way more than %2 doe, DP by itself gives players %1 damage reduction per 1 DP. 1 AP: 1% damage inc 1 DP: 1% damage reduction 2 DR: 1% damage reduction 4 Eva: 1% miss rate 4 Acc: 1% hit rate
@@nathrizarri that sounds wrong, Wasnt it like something like 1DR = 1AP and something like 3 ACC = 4 EVA. % values here make no sense at all (outside of the DP % brackets ofc). Also special evasion isnt EVA, its a multi for down, back, air attacks etc...
@@lowkeylokii4205 yes a bracket later on is 5DP. But 5DP = 1% DR is wrong. DP NEVER diractly gives you a % reduction ever. View both, the DP and the Brackets as 2 seperate stats.
The important part about the PVE 253k vs 261n thing is that you could just save the money buying a TET Nouver to up your AP to 261k, It isn't worth the tax
Tet Nouver is less than 2b, but during oasis event you can pick up a tri Nouver for 1silver which pushed me to 261 temporarily a while back. Tri Ramones is tri Nouver, it only has 2 AP less than the tet Nouver.
Hey Choice, nice vid! What i kinda miss in this Nouver vs Kutum debate is the ingore resist vs the extra resist. Kutum gives ignore resist which i realy miss when playing a DR grabber, (like war) how would u weigh these stats?
Choice but what if I'm on already on 309 + bracket on kutum with Dr gear? It's not better for pvp then nouver .. i mean is it worth having more then 309 AP ? How really DMG increase from sheet AP ?
Thanks for the vid! Just curious, does the actual DP number contribute to defense in any way? For example (theoretically), (500DP and 100DR) vs (600DP and 100DR) will the 2nd combination receive less damage? I used high DP numbers to get the brackets out of the way.. I have seen some reddit sources say that 1DP = 1DR, but that was some time ago.. Thanks!
No. Sheet DP only helps you hit brackets. Your total actual DR is what's important. Sheet DP can either be DR, or it can be evasion - it depends on the item. If for example you have an item that gives you 1 extra sheet DP, but that sheet DP is 1 evasion, and you are a DR build so the 1 extra evasion won't cause people to miss you anyway, and that 1 sheet DP does NOT hit a bracket for you - then you could say that the 1 sheet DP in this case has zero effect.
@@asdesdvfq222c Thanks for the detailed answer! so the key stats are the sheet evasion and dr and DP is just for hitting brackets. What about AP? Does a guy with 500 AP hit less than a guy with 501AP? Assuming all else are equal..
@@Playtist every AP helps the same. Sheet AP can I pick bracket AP, but it's all the same. Just add sheet + hidden ap and that's your total and higher is more.
If ur a new player don't have enough gear to pvp effectively just get tet kutum or the seasonal tuvala offhand till u can pvp then just buy a pen nouver. So u won't lose much money for switching back to tet kutum once u hit the tet kutum 261ap barracks
The kutum extra damage to monsters is only applicable to monsters only right because there are different kind of monster damage for example like humans , demi humans , kama monsters etc. Will kutum be applied to all monster damage ?
Yes, since they are all mobs. And also it's not monster dmg, it's monster AP which scales the same as normal AP except only for pve. The dmg for a specific species stacks with the monster AP ( dmg * .85 = ap it grats ) hence why people usually stack human dmg crystals/pvp addons with monster AP addons at spots like bloody monastery
Where would you say the difference is noticeable. I'm 301 nouver and if I go with a pen kutum, would I notice a difference in damage at certain grind spots?
I have a pen griffon as well but it's on my tag character, heve out preforms griffon in a hybrid build so I keep it around. The only reason it's on my tag is because I lost a harphia on the tag heve
Choice can you please explain why you want a pen militia vambrace so bad? it's a white grade weapon so I think it would be trash. Please explain why they are so good, it doesn't make any sense. it must be good because you want it so bad you spend billions on it and fail over and over but you don't give up. Please explain why it's so good?
Haven't watched the video. But regarding PvE there is no questions asked. Kutum is better beyond 261, and will only get better the higher you go. You could even argue it's hardly worth it the few 2 brackets nouver is better in considering how fast you go through those brackets. You shouldn't ever use your nouver for pve. And as much as kutum is better in pve, nouver is in pvp. No questions asked, unless you hard memeing in full eva gear you don't ever, and i mean fucking never use a kutum in pvp. The difference is clearer than night and day.
Remember guys if you want to use the google sheet you need to hit file > make a copy. This will allow you to edit it. You don't need to request access! ^.^
Great video!! So for PvE only, run Kutum til 249ap, then switch to Nouver for 261ap, til 273ap Nouver, switch back to Kutum for 261ap. Then for PvP, Eva runs Kutum, and DR runs Nouver. Pretty simple, thx again, great video!!
I DID NOT KNOW THIS! Thank you so much for clarity on the brackets as i am sitting at roughly 260 and been using K as i wasn't aware of N brackets thank you thank you
Choice the only guy I watch minutes after he drops a video I'm like a crack head for these vids 😆😆😆
For people watching this before oasis ends, you can always pick up a tri Ramones from Elle (oasis vendor)
The tri Ramones is a tri Nouver. That's 1 silver for 10 or 11 AP! I used one temporarily to hit 261 a while back
pretty sure those wont be active after that no?
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Loved the video man keep it up and uploading I learn alot from these
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You left out an important benefit Kutum has, which is 10% resistance penetration, which is an important offensive factor. Landing a CC means certain win in many cases. At that point, your AP really does not matter so much. CC means death.
This is true but never has 10% resist, and sometimes resisting the second cc means living. I pretty much didn't discuss it because there are benefits to both offhands passives just in different scenarios
they both have 10% resist bud
nice content. may i request a guide on how DR works? evasion vs accuracy is all over the net already. cant find any dr guides(about how its damage mitigation works).
im planning to go hybrid evasion. I got the feeling that they might release fallen god helm this nov(dr item i guess)
I think you have missed the part that we get a flat % damage reduction from DP alone, aside from the eva/dr relationship.
And dr players can easily break opponent's hitcap with endgame gear+%30 special evasion.
The extra 2% flat damage reduction wearing a kutum instead of a nouver isn't worth the ap loss. Sure you get tankier, but the trade off isn't even close to worth it
@@ImChoice it is way more than %2 doe, DP by itself gives players %1 damage reduction per 1 DP.
1 AP: 1% damage inc
1 DP: 1% damage reduction
2 DR: 1% damage reduction
4 Eva: 1% miss rate
4 Acc: 1% hit rate
@@nathrizarri that sounds wrong, Wasnt it like something like 1DR = 1AP and something like 3 ACC = 4 EVA. % values here make no sense at all (outside of the DP % brackets ofc).
Also special evasion isnt EVA, its a multi for down, back, air attacks etc...
pretty sure it's 5dp = 1% damage reduction. dp brackets work the same way ap brackets work. and dp brackets provide 1% per bracket.
@@lowkeylokii4205 yes a bracket later on is 5DP. But 5DP = 1% DR is wrong.
DP NEVER diractly gives you a % reduction ever. View both, the DP and the Brackets as 2 seperate stats.
Awesome man, thanks for the share! Always wondered which one of the two I should use.
The important part about the PVE 253k vs 261n thing is that you could just save the money buying a TET Nouver to up your AP to 261k, It isn't worth the tax
Tet Nouver is less than 2b, but during oasis event you can pick up a tri Nouver for 1silver which pushed me to 261 temporarily a while back. Tri Ramones is tri Nouver, it only has 2 AP less than the tet Nouver.
ty u are the best player in this is game
This is nice, thanks for sharing!
search BDO (Nova) Nouver VS Kutum For PVE (Sycraia Abyssal) from Inaba. 280+ difference is not that much at all
can i Exchange my sub weap anytime i want from kutum-nouver vice versa or it has a limit?
Thank you for the information.
Also AP brackets doesn’t affects the +AP against monsters on the kutum?
His sheet calculates that to the final value.
Hi mate, does the extra +dmg against monsters also count against bosses? Or would you recommend using a nouver in bossfights?
Bosses counts as monsters
Everything counts as monsters unless it's a real player bte
Nice dawn's resentment, whose lunch money did you take?
Hey Choice, nice vid! What i kinda miss in this Nouver vs Kutum debate is the ingore resist vs the extra resist. Kutum gives ignore resist which i realy miss when playing a DR grabber, (like war) how would u weigh these stats?
Irrelevant and makes no difference. Kutum is trash for pvp
Choice but what if I'm on already on 309 + bracket on kutum with Dr gear? It's not better for pvp then nouver .. i mean is it worth having more then 309 AP ? How really DMG increase from sheet AP ?
Wouldn't you lose DR when you drop brackets?
Thanks for the vid! Just curious, does the actual DP number contribute to defense in any way? For example (theoretically), (500DP and 100DR) vs (600DP and 100DR) will the 2nd combination receive less damage? I used high DP numbers to get the brackets out of the way.. I have seen some reddit sources say that 1DP = 1DR, but that was some time ago.. Thanks!
No. Sheet DP only helps you hit brackets. Your total actual DR is what's important. Sheet DP can either be DR, or it can be evasion - it depends on the item. If for example you have an item that gives you 1 extra sheet DP, but that sheet DP is 1 evasion, and you are a DR build so the 1 extra evasion won't cause people to miss you anyway, and that 1 sheet DP does NOT hit a bracket for you - then you could say that the 1 sheet DP in this case has zero effect.
@@asdesdvfq222c Thanks for the detailed answer! so the key stats are the sheet evasion and dr and DP is just for hitting brackets. What about AP? Does a guy with 500 AP hit less than a guy with 501AP? Assuming all else are equal..
@@Playtist every AP helps the same. Sheet AP can I pick bracket AP, but it's all the same. Just add sheet + hidden ap and that's your total and higher is more.
@@asdesdvfq222c Thanks!
dp = dr+eva
If ur a new player don't have enough gear to pvp effectively just get tet kutum or the seasonal tuvala offhand till u can pvp then just buy a pen nouver. So u won't lose much money for switching back to tet kutum once u hit the tet kutum 261ap barracks
The kutum extra damage to monsters is only applicable to monsters only right because there are different kind of monster damage for example like humans , demi humans , kama monsters etc. Will kutum be applied to all monster damage ?
Yes, since they are all mobs. And also it's not monster dmg, it's monster AP which scales the same as normal AP except only for pve. The dmg for a specific species stacks with the monster AP ( dmg * .85 = ap it grats ) hence why people usually stack human dmg crystals/pvp addons with monster AP addons at spots like bloody monastery
Does the monster damage counts against human mobs like biraghi/cr/bm ?
Monster damage accounts for everything except actual players
Bro i have a question. In endgame, sorc, in endgame pvp what would you choose pen kutum or nouver
I'd say the majority of sorcs build DR armor and nouver for PVP
Ty
HOLY SHIET THAT GEAR
I am at 261k. Should i buy a nouver and just keep it in my inventory for when i have to fight other players or i am fine with only kutum? 😅
Yeah but from that 289 kut vs 305 nouver if u going pve u add the 62 ap to mobs that will kill the nouver
evesion build for zerker?! im shoked es player from russian server... can u explain plz
Where would you say the difference is noticeable. I'm 301 nouver and if I go with a pen kutum, would I notice a difference in damage at certain grind spots?
I want to know that too
@@chentax108 recently hit 301 kutum. There's a big difference.
So if I'm 252 Ap TET Kutum, A TET Nouver would put me at 264, thus being better?
Yes then go back to kutum when you reach 261AP with Kutum.
That if you want to buy a tet offhand for 2 bil for 3 caps
Right now I'm 269 kutum with 320dp should I use nouver to jump 3 brackets, Or should I just stay kutum
Nouver only better than Kutum until 273. After that bracket, Kutum outperform Nouver heavily in PvE.
holy shit that gearscore....
I like the combination of Nouver with precision accessories for pvp. What do you think about that ?
yes thats a great combo if you build damage reduction armors
what is this for a Foliant that you have equipt ?
The tome slot? It is a undying crows insignia. It's used to track your progress in pit of undying
@@ImChoice Thanks
The calculator that you linked is read only and requires a access request to use :(
just do the math damn lmao
I just saw that you are the guiy who have played the most at BDO 38k? for real?
I know am 53 minutes late but I was watching boku no pico
I didn’t even know your ap could get that high with that much dp I play on console
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Why are you using pen heve and not pen griffon/giath?
I have a pen griffon as well but it's on my tag character, heve out preforms griffon in a hybrid build so I keep it around. The only reason it's on my tag is because I lost a harphia on the tag heve
guys idnt know if im dr build or eva build
duo labreska
duo fga
pen bhegs
pen urugon
lighstone build +18dr +33eva
dr bc of the bhegs and urugon
So if I’m getting this rite 290kutum would be better than 300nouver
Yup!
@@ImChoice alright thanks man be getting both but pen kutum first have good day thanks for replying enjoy ur content keep it up
Choice can you please explain why you want a pen militia vambrace so bad? it's a white grade weapon so I think it would be trash. Please explain why they are so good, it doesn't make any sense. it must be good because you want it so bad you spend billions on it and fail over and over but you don't give up. Please explain why it's so good?
memes, the guy already finished bdo
Best in slot evasion offhand for striker
swap to urugons+griffon+nouver and ull see the difference
I want to see gem pls.
What’s this for a helmet? Hercules?
I mean sure more trashloot but yea I’m not gona fuss over little trash difference in 260 range bracket lol
this info doesn't apply to wiz 😂
AP: 324
Awakening AP: 326
DP: 393
How do I get that stats without spending money LOL.
Well I've played for a long time, just a lot of grinding :) I do spend some on loot scrolls
Do people not realize how long this game has been out lol , also on PC they make like 500m p hour
301ap kutum+ pve/pvp izi
Exactly.
Haven't watched the video. But regarding PvE there is no questions asked. Kutum is better beyond 261, and will only get better the higher you go. You could even argue it's hardly worth it the few 2 brackets nouver is better in considering how fast you go through those brackets. You shouldn't ever use your nouver for pve. And as much as kutum is better in pve, nouver is in pvp. No questions asked, unless you hard memeing in full eva gear you don't ever, and i mean fucking never use a kutum in pvp. The difference is clearer than night and day.
Kinda somewhat incorrect here, - resist on kutum, and the accuracy has niche uses in pvp, along with the evasion as you said.