Livestream Event with Dr. Robyn Walsh
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- Опубліковано 16 вер 2024
- Join our livestream (UA-cam and Facebook Live) event with Dr. Robyn Walsh on Sept. 17th, where she will discuss her newest book, The Origins of Early Christian Literature. The format will be a 30-minute interview, moderated by Dr. Sarah Rollens, and followed by a 30-minute discussion with viewer’s comments.
Excellent interview and I'm loving the book. I hope this opens up the field to reconsider the many interpolation hypotheses in the Pauline epistles. Too much ink has been wasted assuming the single authorship of each 'authentic' epistle and the character of Paul derived from it.
Thanks 👍
Very good. Most informative, intriguing and entertaining
Thanks, Stuart! So glad you enjoyed the livestream.
Great video - hope you persevere in bringing these important scholars to UA-cam!
Please some thinking regarding the importance of Alexandria and cesarea in the creation and diffusion of early gospels !
Gracias Urbs and Polis por acercarnos a estos temas, ese libro se ve genial. ¡Esperamos ganar el concurso! - Thanks Urbs and Polish for approaching these topics, that book looks great. We hope to win the giveaway!
I don't think Q existed (with Goodacre). But one thing that kills me is when people go on this hypothetical document... and like "identify" strata of Q, like... we don't know it existed. How can you reconstruct strata of Q development in a document you can't even demonstrate existed? Lol. Gets me every time.
I'm also not sure we can say that everything Paul knows about Jesus comes from divination. For sure, he claims this as his source of authority for his "gospel", but even things like 1 Cor. 15:3f. he cites tradition passed down to him, and nowhere indicates this is from divine revelation. Furthermore, it is not even in his standard writing style, and I would say this is still probably a case of him using a previous tradition. I would also argue his claim of getting "acquainted with Cephas," (Gal. 1:18) and that he met James the Brother of Jesus at least should give us some pretty great pause before saying his information of Christ solely derived from divination experiences.
Anyways, with regard to everything else, I'm excited to see how Dr. Walsh's work is used and influences the direction of NT scholarship!
Side note, it really bothers me how much we infantilize ancient authors acting like "well, this can't possibly be fiction, it must be oral tradition." Like, no one credibly thinks that Atlantis was real. It was just something that Plato made up. We have actual fictive novels from the ancient world. They were inventors and such, so I just think it is really infantilizing and a case of major protectionism of the NT. The appeal to "oral tradition" is just to save the historicity of the Gospels. It is really strange in self-validating the existence of the quest of the historical Jesus as well, which I think is just something that shouldn't exist anymore.
It makes total sense that people would pass down traditions from a person they’re literally worshipping. I don’t see how you can chalk that assumption up to “agenda”.
Robyn is a great scholar.
We have the Pauline epistles but nothing written until Mark. Why? Are books, letters, just lost to time, or maybe there really is an oral Q tradition lost to antiquity?
The question that comes at 1:03:00 into the talk might be referring to Altweil's (sp?) theory that Josephus wrote Mark's gospel to pacify the rebellious Jews after the war. I think these types of theories are nonsense. So, the authorities think to themselves: "These Jews are rebellious, we need to do something". OK, that much is OK. And then their solution is: "HEY! Let's pay some guy to invent a new religion!" That is absolute nonsense. No one would ever do that. Many problems with it. The biggest problem is that just because you decide to invent a new religion, it doesn't mean you'll get people to follow it. The process of getting followers to a new religion is totally different than some guy deciding to invent a religion to bring peace to a region or people. And even if they adopt your religion, how do you know it will manipulate people in the way you think it will? Ignore all such theories is my advice, but then again, I want to create rebellion and I know that by spreading such theories it will create rebellion.
It's obvious that the Gospels are written by psuedo authors other than the 4 Evangelists because it talks in an omniscient point of view like the writers knows every facts. Somehow I sense that Joseph of Arimathea most likely is also be Flavius Josephus because he easily requested Jesus' body to be taken down and buried properly? He simply have high connections. Maybe there could have been a historical Jesus but the thing is that the Koine Greek writers somehow mythologized some of the stories that's why some scholarly learned people didn't bought those stories. It maybe possible that Flavius Josephus may have something to do of the NT being written because he seems to know many things about Jerusalem and the happenings there in his timeline? I somehow treat the Bible as a controversial compilations of people who lived on the culture where they just wanna share beliefs. The Christianity we have now is a mixture of Essenism, Zoroasterism, Hinduism/Buddhism/Taoism which may have also reached the middle east and somehow influenced the writers? Platonic concepts are also obvious.
@@josemoody1743, this is just my collective opinion because the Jews were highly influenced by neighbor religions and philosophers during the Hellenistic Period, try listening to the YT Channels: Gnostic Informant and Myth Vision Podcast. Lots of Bible scholars/authors are guest speakers there.