SHOULD YOU POLISH AFTER CLAY -or- Is it safe to CLAY and SEAL?

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  • Опубліковано 31 тра 2024
  • Claying your car removes embedded contamination from your paint. But is it safe to Clay and then apply protection or seal the paint right after the claying process. In todays video I go over the pros and cons of a clay and seal and explain why I personally don't do this on my personal care or on my customers vehicles. Some say clay is non abrasive while other say it is, so I do a side by side test to see just what happens when claying. ENJOY!!!
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    TIME CODES:
    0:00 - CLAY AND SEAL
    0:30 - SHOULD YOU POLISH AFTER CLAY
    1:27 - WHY I DON'T CLAY AND SEAL
    2:07 - SIDE BY SIDE TEST
    4:34 - CLAY PROCESS
    7:50 - RESULTS
    8:19 - MY PROCESS
    9:15 - FINAL THOUGHTS
    #CLAY #CLAYBAR #CARDETAILING #CLAYANDSEAL #SYTHETICCLAY
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  • @ZechariahDiaz-rb9qm
    @ZechariahDiaz-rb9qm 15 днів тому +11

    DIY decontamination towel you should give a try too

  • @tomsmith1059
    @tomsmith1059 14 днів тому +4

    As a pro - detailer for many years, I agree and disagree with his methods but I have a tonne of respect for this young man as he says straight off the bat, " this is only my opinion"
    I will only polish a customers car if they pay for paint correction.

    • @imjoshv
      @imjoshv  14 днів тому +1

      Thanks a lot I appreciate that! I agree and I charge completely different prices for correction but I do build an enhancement polish into the price of many of my packages to help address minor issues. But again, for corrections I always address the condition with the customer in person and discuss how far they want to go before giving pricing

    • @jamesp57867
      @jamesp57867 13 днів тому

      ​@@imjoshvQuestion. Does it matter what polisher you have? Long throw or short throw? Backing plate size?
      I have a Rupes LHR15 5" plate, a
      Milwaukee M18 21mm throw with a 6" plate and a Zota 3" 8 mm polisher. I'm looking for suggestions on backing plates ( holes or not) and should I use waffle pads only?

  • @hoodiekemo
    @hoodiekemo 15 днів тому +4

    This is something I've had in mind the last couple of weeks and Josh came in the clutch as always

  • @DavidRuiz-nb9fh
    @DavidRuiz-nb9fh 15 днів тому

    Great video Josh!

  • @RJSDZNS
    @RJSDZNS 14 днів тому +2

    One of your videos randomly came up in my feed. I subscribed right away. Love your channel!

    • @imjoshv
      @imjoshv  14 днів тому +1

      Thanks so much! I appreciate it

  • @peterandpeterdetailing
    @peterandpeterdetailing 14 днів тому

    Hey, love your videos! Keep up the good work brother. Started my own business a few months ago and you have been a big inspiration.

  • @davestewart9146
    @davestewart9146 14 днів тому +1

    On my truck I used the Mother’s kit, on my wife’s car I used the rag company’s synthetic pad with DIYs iron remover, both worked really well, thanks Josh 👍😁

    • @imjoshv
      @imjoshv  14 днів тому

      Awesome thanks for the feedback Dave!

  • @williampinchbeck4321
    @williampinchbeck4321 15 днів тому +1

    I use your method!!! Have a grrat weekend!!

  • @bswan25
    @bswan25 15 днів тому

    Nice job on the video. Any chance you will do a review on the Lulyday 21V 15mm random orbital cordless polisher on the A site? It looks like it might be a really good budget option and it comes with 5 and 6 inch backing plates.

  • @frankv.3305
    @frankv.3305 14 днів тому

    Appreciate the video... good to see different ideas at play... typically, no one idea is the only option and I would agree... you do you if it gives you results you're happy with.

  • @ZechariahDiaz-rb9qm
    @ZechariahDiaz-rb9qm 15 днів тому

    Thanks for the video

  • @05xrunner
    @05xrunner 14 днів тому +11

    I say try a better lubrication. I use DIY rinseless as my lube and have the Rag company clay towel and I have done my perfect paint basically show car paint on my 22 Camaro and its a darker blue and i have never had a mark left behind. I think its the detail spray and not enough liquid in that Rag company sponge is why it left stuff behind. Throw the sponge in the bucket of rinselss and use it soaking wet and Rinseless as the spray on lube as well.

    • @imjoshv
      @imjoshv  14 днів тому

      Yep the clay sponge actually was soaking before use and I also prepped it on glass before hand. Many quick detailers are essentially the same as a clay lube and work well for lubrication. However, I do agree that more lubrication can help!

    • @ArthurMSoto
      @ArthurMSoto 14 днів тому

      Start detailing a bunch of cars and results will start showing marks 😂

    • @05xrunner
      @05xrunner 14 днів тому

      @@ArthurMSoto sounds more like someone who rushes to get it done and causes marks.

    • @ArthurMSoto
      @ArthurMSoto 14 днів тому

      @@05xrunner sounds like someone who has real world experience and uses a clay bar

    • @05xrunner
      @05xrunner 13 днів тому

      @@ArthurMSoto 🙄

  • @jamesp57867
    @jamesp57867 15 днів тому +3

    If it needs Polishing. Do an analysis of the paint after decontamination. Right?

  • @1960JB
    @1960JB 14 днів тому

    Hi, Can you tell me if it`s OK to apply Meguiars hydro ceramic wax after using Sonax Xtreme 3 Polish and wax ?. And love your No Nonsense videos 👌 Cheers !!!!

  • @JP-vs8yl
    @JP-vs8yl 15 днів тому +1

    Hi Josh,
    You should try Labocosmetica and P&S 3 ph system, they work great.

  • @johnniejohnson8026
    @johnniejohnson8026 14 днів тому

    Nice job Josh I am seem to like the synthetic clay mitt from Jay Leno and I wanted to ask have you tried the new Mr Pink

    • @imjoshv
      @imjoshv  14 днів тому +2

      I haven’t but thanks for the idea! I’ll get some ordered. It the Mr pink foam party with wax mixture right?

  • @philh1826
    @philh1826 14 днів тому

    Do you do any work in Las Vegas? My wife's corolla has quite a bit of sun damage. Would like to know if it can be buffed out or needs repainting

  • @Mike-tg8si
    @Mike-tg8si 13 днів тому

    Big fan Josh! Just want to point out to others that the Mothers product is really just a synthetic clay bar thrown in with their off the shelf ceramic detailer.
    There’s nothing “special” about it vs someone trying the same using their own preferred clay and ceramic quick detailer
    That said, I know point of video was moreso a question of whether a polish is needed in between, due to potential for marring

  • @audieconrad8995
    @audieconrad8995 15 днів тому +3

    The only time I clay and NOT polish would be for my personal rides. Every 3-4 months [or so] IF some of the panals feel a "little" rough, I'll clay mitt while washing using a high lubricity shampoo [TW Slick & Slide]. Just to lightly "clean-up the surface then follow up with a topper...
    Good vid Josh.
    Shine on you crazy diamond!

  • @phantasmatt.
    @phantasmatt. 12 днів тому

    @imjoshv I know this is an unrelated question, but I have a Harbor Freight Foam Cannon and a Ryobi 1800 PSI pressure washer. I got a 1.1mm orifice for the cannon, and when I install it, it won’t produce ANY foam?! Just water coming out, and filling the jug with more water. When I put the original orifice in, it works fine. What’s the problem here?

  • @jotighe2
    @jotighe2 10 днів тому

    all videos are personal opinions. good content.

  • @brianbeltran7503
    @brianbeltran7503 13 годин тому

    What are your thoughts and opinion on the HD NANO PAD from 3D

  • @Rubiowner05
    @Rubiowner05 14 днів тому +2

    You are supposed to break in the synthetic Rag Co clay sponge on a window first start?

    • @imjoshv
      @imjoshv  14 днів тому

      Yea that’s recommended with all synthetic clays. I didn’t show it but that was done. The clay sponge was also soaking in a bucket before I used it

  • @jeffbinkley1404
    @jeffbinkley1404 14 днів тому

    I hope this doesn't sound ridiculous but I wish you would buy a different bunch of pressure gauges and test those to see what the difference is in the pressure gauges are. The reasoning behind this is I've watched the same pressure washer reviewed by different people and it's always a different pressure so I'm wondering if it's the gauges or is it is it the water input

  • @2Shine55
    @2Shine55 14 днів тому

    Question Boss. Are there different levels of clay towels? Example, fine, medium, or heavy? My apologies for my ignorance.

    • @imjoshv
      @imjoshv  14 днів тому

      Not at all, that’s a great question! Yeah for traditional clay there are different grades, and some brands have different grades as well for their synthetics. Not all of them, but some do

  • @johnrayenriquez2623
    @johnrayenriquez2623 14 днів тому

    Hello Josh I thought clay removes decontamination and stripe wax so you had polish to add protection I do a clay and seal I am a beginner starting on my cars for now

  • @henryreyes8947
    @henryreyes8947 14 днів тому

    I need to buy Polisher I want something inexpensive but that still work to work on my 3 cars any recommendations are greatly appreciated thanks guys have. A great day

  • @glyndonsprofessionaldetail7429
    @glyndonsprofessionaldetail7429 14 днів тому +1

    a few things , just want people to note you clayed a squeaky clean panel not one full of contaminates that could actually cause worse marring , also i stopped clay/seal when i saw almost every synthetic clay leave a similar marring behind that puts really weird uniform haziness in the paint that wasn't just scratches , if it needs clay it needs at least a cleaner wax , if you want a decon/protect package just use tar and iron removers

    • @imjoshv
      @imjoshv  14 днів тому +1

      I agree with all of that!

  • @davidboyce6427
    @davidboyce6427 14 днів тому

    Thank Josh👍. Yah know I grew up always hearing and observing there is more than one way o skin a cat. And I grew up in the 60”s

  • @scottbamasime4338
    @scottbamasime4338 14 днів тому +1

    May have been a better test for the viewer if you had shown results inside garage with a light source..imo..

  • @14sgs
    @14sgs 11 днів тому

    How do I become a customer? I'm local.

  • @micd9256
    @micd9256 15 днів тому +1

    If you clay, you polish. “Clay and seal” is just another way for self-proclaimed detailers to make extra money from a job. I doubt they explain the trade-offs to the customer. I have pretty good luck with Megs mild clay. Seems to minimize marring. Never tried Mothers synthetic but have tried TRC’s clay towel and it definitely marred the paint more than traditional clay.

    • @keeganbennett6724
      @keeganbennett6724 14 днів тому +1

      Brother, Ive ceramic coated cars without correcting. some people are fine with the swirls and minor scratches. also, YES OF COURSE i explain to them risks of doing this and the trade off of such. But if a person doesnt want it, they dont want it.

  • @ct181
    @ct181 14 днів тому

    Most of the claying process mars or dulls the finish

  • @seabreezeof
    @seabreezeof 14 днів тому +1

    Why polish then clay, thats backwards. Every car is different analyze and proceed as needed. Normally, decon wash, iron remover, clay, polish, panel prep and what ever your going to use a sealant as last step. Gives Best results.

    • @cliffelmore5834
      @cliffelmore5834 14 днів тому +1

      I assume to get a clean start. It is easier to see defects caused by the clay.

    • @imjoshv
      @imjoshv  14 днів тому +2

      Yea you are 100% correct. This was just for the test to level the paint first so we could actually see the before and after from the effects of the clay… it was just to get it to an even starting point

  • @djsassafrass9126
    @djsassafrass9126 15 днів тому

    Every time I see a "business" with a Clay and Wax or Clay and Seal service I just shake my head. They will learn eventually. Lol

    • @keeganbennett6724
      @keeganbennett6724 14 днів тому

      what packages do you offer?

    • @djsassafrass9126
      @djsassafrass9126 14 днів тому

      @@keeganbennett6724 Clay, Polish, and Seal or Clay, Polish, and Coat.

  • @nelsonrivera4976
    @nelsonrivera4976 15 днів тому

    Y el niño donde esta😢😅😊

  • @magicmarlln
    @magicmarlln 14 днів тому

    Mobile guys are clay n sealing. If you own a shop correct that paint by polishing after clay boys, I mean Josh mobile guys aren’t rocking latest n greatest rupes- great videos btw

    • @keeganbennett6724
      @keeganbennett6724 14 днів тому

      not all mobile ones. just the ones that think they know what they are doing. Really, they should be doing paint enhancements at the minimum if a clay bar touches a car.
      What do you personally do?

    • @magicmarlln
      @magicmarlln 14 днів тому +1

      @@keeganbennett6724 I will only use a clay mitt these days n then whatever protection the customer wants, if I had a shop I’d love to do full corrections - what about yourself ?

    • @imjoshv
      @imjoshv  14 днів тому +1

      I still work mostly mobile(my customers are just use to me coming to them) and I will do a pass with 3d speed or something similar to enhance the paint

    • @areasonablethought610
      @areasonablethought610 13 днів тому

      ​@@imjoshvas most people should. After washing a car leave some protection on the paint.

  • @MikesAutoDetailing
    @MikesAutoDetailing 14 днів тому +4

    I like doing clay/seal I’ll use clay towel while I’m washing and a sealant while I’m drying, quick work, easy money

  • @jyo8914
    @jyo8914 15 днів тому

    Before watching the video, I polish after clay since claying can introduce micro marring.

  • @Jimmer-tr6bi
    @Jimmer-tr6bi 15 днів тому +4

    I’m sorry all three sections look terrible to me after you use the synthetic and natural products for decontamination. Anybody who doesn’t polish after that is fooling themselves and probably whatever sealant they’re using is just filling in the scratches on a temporary basis.

    • @henryreyes8947
      @henryreyes8947 14 днів тому

      If you know 100% of the car doesn’t have anything on it I say you can clay and seal especially if you have super soft paint which is possible but that’s just imo what do you guys think any and all feedback is welcomed have a great day guys

  • @charlesespinoza9961
    @charlesespinoza9961 14 днів тому +1

    You never want to clay and then seal... lol. When are you correcting the superficial marring that you put on the paint after Claying? 😅 and if you don't care what your paint looks like and just want to wash the dirt off, then why would you care about claying?

    • @imjoshv
      @imjoshv  14 днів тому

      I think some people do see the benefits of the removing embedded contamination… however I agree and always polish after claying

  • @sethlover6498
    @sethlover6498 14 днів тому

    Had my truck done. The guy did a clay and seal (ceramic coating). Truck looked bad. A lot of scratches that should have been polished out were amplified from the ceramic coat. A real rookie job. Needless to say I will never acquire business from that "Pro" detailer again.

  • @AJ56
    @AJ56 15 днів тому +1

    Don’t softball ball it by saying it’s your personal opinion. Something like your choice of wax or ceramic, that’s personal opinion.
    Wilfully scuffing up a clients car and then partially filling in the marring with a wax/sealant is downright wrong and poor business practice.

  • @ferminlopez1709
    @ferminlopez1709 15 днів тому +1

    Is it safe to polish over clear bra?

  • @davidm6256
    @davidm6256 14 днів тому +2

    1st 🇺🇸

  • @BetterThanNewDetailing
    @BetterThanNewDetailing 14 днів тому

    The main reason to polish after clay isn’t to remove marring….its done to provide the ultimate gloss. Removing clay marring is just an added bonus of polishing after claying.

  • @MyGuyKirby
    @MyGuyKirby 15 днів тому +2

    First...Beat Humberto