The PERFECT, AFFORDABLE Bluewater Cruiser That's Ready To Sail? [Full Tour] Learning the Lines
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- Опубліковано 3 лип 2024
- Island Packet Yachts is recognized as a premier builder of fine cruising yachts. This particular boat offers to best of everything including exceptional safety and seakeeping, unmatched comfort and livability, superb craftsmanship and materials and very good sailing ability. Island Packet 44's have completed hundreds of thousands of bluewater cruising miles plus back-to-back victories in the prestigious Caribbean 1500 Ocean Races.
Island Packet 44's have a number of features that set them apart from other designs. First there is the exclusive Full Foil Keel that unifies the performance of modern hull and foil designs with the superior seakeeping and safety of the traditional long keel. This design offers excellent protection for the prop and rudder, moderate draft and exceptional stability.
She offers an amazing amount of practical living space for a 44'.
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Asking Price: $164,900
Listing info:
www.yachtworld.com/yacht/1993...
Listed with Holland Yacht Sales in Macatawa, MI.
Contact Henry DeJong at 616-443-1435 for more information.
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Island Packets are extremely well appointed below. Their wide beam, across all models relative to length, makes them the floating condos of the sailboat world. But these same below deck comforts make them unsuitable for Blue Water sailing in my opinion for several reasons. The layups may be robust, I don't know. However, they are definitely NOT heavy boats. Their displacement to length ratios are in the mid to low 200's and given their excessive beam, this would simply HAVE to be the case. Unlike heavier displacement boats, Island Packets sit on top of the water more than they do in it. If they sat deeper in the water like heavier boats ( and by that I mean boats with displacement to Length ratios in the mid to upper 300's or low 400's ), they would be extremely difficult to push through the water due to the wide beam. Now, the wide beam does have some advantages when coastal sailing or in protected waters. Due to the wide beam, the IP's carry great buoyancy outward from the center of the vessel. This means they stiffen quickly and will heel less than most boats as the wind pipes up to a point. However, in very heavy weather ( Storm conditions ), this now becomes a liability. In the event the boat suffers a knockdown, the boat will now have to overcome this great buoyancy oh her beam ends and it will make it very difficult to self right. More than likely she will turn turtle and stay there, This makes them unsuitable for Bluewater sailing. If I were still sailing in my native NYC area and boating primarily in Long Island Sound, Block Island Sound and Cape Cod, The IP would be a nice boat offering great accommodation and comfort and decent speed in light air.
I would be very hesitant about crossing an ocean in one though For that, a heavier displacement boat is needed. One with a narrower beam with more of a wine glass shape hull that stiffens as the wind pipes up not due to bouyancy in the beam ends, but due ballast and plenty of it, down low. Such a boat if knocked down will much more readily self right. Boats like like Pacific Seacraft, Valiant, Cape Dory and Cabo Rico to name a few, are of the type I refer to as Blue water boats. A Pacific Seacraft 37' for example has a positive range of stability of almost 150 degrees and while not nearly as wide as an Island packet is still very comfortable below and safer below in a storm. That great beam and roominess below just means you will be thrown further across the cabin when below in a storm. A narrower boat means you are always near one side and close to handholds.
I don't to sound like I am bashing Island Packet. They are VERY well finished boats, spacious below, comfortable to sail and hold their value well, but they portrayal of them by some as "Heavy, go anywhere, bluewater sailboats" is simply not accurate.
Thanks for these videos brother, this one is a particularly great looking boat.
WOW, that is one sexy boat! I keep dreaming of when I will retire and thinking if / can I sail. I absolutely love the layout of this boat and will do some more research. Thanks so much for sharing!
Perfect beauty!
Dream boat!
LOVE IP. Built like tanks!
Great walk through. Thanks, a short, to the point walk through. Many other YT videos hosts talk way too much.
Beautiful boat. Reminds me a lot of Jordan & Desiree's boat Atticus II
What a beauty! Hope to stumble across a Morgan center cockpit video, someday!?
Great video, lovely boat. I would have preferred to have the specs role up at the end though as they obscured the view of the bow to stern walk through. Otherwise excellent. Will definitely add this boat and year to my list of boats to consider.
Absolutely brilliant boat, very beautiful boat, solid and a very nice protected cockpit and helm position, which is important, if you want this boat for cruising, where you will be caught up in all kinds of weather. I am not worried about the chain plates: Find me a product of a certain age, any, that does not have known issues. I for instance had a Kia Ceed, brilliant and reliable car, but the doors where hanging, which is a known issue on Kia Ceed on a certain age. Either you live with or fix it, and this boat is so well priced for it's condition, that you should have room for doing that inspection and fix the issue, if it is real in this boat. It may not even be though, because this is a fresh water boat!
Looks like this listing is no longer available on yachtworld. What a terrific boat, i was going to look into it but it sold before i got a chance. Congrats to both seller and buyer.
Island packet great boat 🎉❤😊.
$164,900.00 USD for a 20+ year-old yacht? 🤔 Need a recent survey before anything else.
Not cheap unless you consider how well equipped this boat is and how pristine and low milage. This boat has a genset and the boat equivalent of geothermal heating and cooling.
You might be able to get a new boat for twice as much money if you leave out many of the expensive features, but that new boat will actually have much higher maintenance costs and downtime.
For a couple that wants to cruise the world, this is an excellent way to go.
Just toured a Ip 439 at the Newport boat show I've always liked Island Packets quality but they just sail to slow, to beamy and the keel is massive. To me the star of the show was the Outbound 46, same high quality of the Island Packet but some more performance.
very well kept boat but no need for 2 bathrooms , remodel the forward berth and remove the bath and expand the berth size and add more closet with possible washer
Love these boats but it would have been good to touch on the two big issues IPs are know to suffer from and that is the chainplates that were fiberglassed in and rust and the tankage that was steel and has to be cut out and replaced.
I am not sure if this model is affected by that but both are massive jobs.
Good video!
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Lady K sailing says to stay away from IP because of chain plates. I believe him.
Buyers should have a surveyor like K look at any big boat. They can offer information on upgrades, a second and tempered opinion, not hot to fufll a dream. Most important thing, know what it costs to keep it in the water and store year to year. Most are more interested in a place to bbq, an apartment on the water and cruise the coast. Ask, am I in that league as rates change. A local marina has a sign, If you can't afford your boat,don't leave it here. Not joking.
Ketting platen probleem?😂😅
Also just a little thing, would have been nice if the sail bag was pulled out of the aft cabin, couldn’t really get any idea of the space in there which I would like to have seen, especially as the cockpit hangs down in there.
Personally I think it was a mistake to not have the cabin full width, I think it would have been a better trade for that bit of storage in the galley.
Many thanks for the vid.
Once again, I wish I had the money! My bother and his x-wife used to sail in Lake Michigan. But that would have been closer to Chicago. : - )
Perfect for Eva and Mads ;-)
i'd get an island packet '98 or newer with the better chainplates in them.
Would it be possible in future videos to break up your videos in to segments? If you look at a NautiStryles video for example, you can see that the progress bar is segmented into Exterior, Bow, Fly, Helm, Interior, Etc. I don't know how much extra work this is. But it's useful for the audience to be able to jump around and re-watch certain segments.
You sure love your storage. dont seem to care about anything important, but there is lots of storage and comfy, lol
Engine,instruments,price???,
They are real good quality made boats. Would you spend $165,000 on this 1993 model boat or buy a newer used boat ? I am not rich but am looking for the best used boat I can buy for the money.
Those Davits look like MarTech cost me about $750.00 mine are still new I never installed them.
Doesn't sound like the chainplates have been replaced. IPs prior to the late 1990s are known to have used a lower grade of stainless steel for the chainplates, which degraded. It's an expensive fix.
Part of why I personally hate the big plastic ceiling & bulkheads.
This is a very nice boat and I think the price is quite reasonable
Belo veleiro! Qual o valor?
You see so many ads described as turn key. This one, pending a survey, probably actually is.
That is a really nice boat and a very good price. It won’t hang around long I suspect. I’m not a fan of big cabins way forward but it’s nice nonetheless. Andy UK
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nice safe slow boat in pristine condition for a couple or small family - fresh water boat, updated electronics, every amenity, bow thruster, davits, swim platform for ease of entry, just needs a water maker and good survey with special attention to tankage and chain plates. If those are all good I think it's priced about right.
Whats yalls favorite sailbaots mine are schooners (gaf rigged)
My favorite will be the first one I buy lol
Google schooner Hhordis my father built her and lived aboard with my mother for 10 years. When we had it it was a Chinese junk rigged schooner very easy to sail single handed if needed. Rip Dad an mom
@@robertwoodward4525give us link bro , I searched it and nothing appeared .
Were is this boat located??
Too much money for whatcher getting.
Where is this boat located, how much?
Love them but be sure to check chainplates(horrible design) and known for bad tanks, both of which require massive deconstruction to remedy.
6:20 Seat cushion backwards... OCD kicking in... in 3... 2... 1...
Boom on deck, sail battens laying around. Owner isn't around, I bet.
Will this boat right itself if a wave rolls it over to upside down? Will it sink if its upside down in a storm?
To try to answer your question, all heavy displacement boats will right themselves due to the heavy encapsulated ballast in the keel. Having said that, the chances of a total rollover is very slim. A knockdown is a far more plausible scenario, in which case the boat will recover with minimal or no damage. No vessel is designed to suffer a complete rollover without major damage to rigging and deck hardware. The forces are just too great but as i stated before, a complete rollover is extremely rare.
Planning on using the spinnaker a lot?
You going four-wheeling?
Not affordable: But for real sailors there is a Ross 930 in the PNW for 35k. No AC or fancy interior. Just fast an fun.
"real sailors" LOL
I don’t see refrigeration?
Oh I see it aft with two doors open.
Not sure a nav station is relevant anymore.
You definition of affordable does not coincide with mine. Nice boat though.
Exactly. Are we talking "affordable" for millionaires or regular people? In a list of "affordable" catamarans there was even a Lagoon 55... "Affordable" doesn't mean a 2m boat now available for 1m, it means a boat I can buy without going bankrupt. If that means less luxury and equipment, then so be it.
That's a chonky keel...
I guess "affordable" is relative!
A classy lady
Too many ads.
only $100,000 to much
Your idea of Affordable is relative
Nice boat, but extremely overpriced.
164K is Not Affordable! I am not suprised that many people choose to build their own boats from plywood and glass fibre.
First rule of boating: Never buy a boat that's out of the water.
Bruh you lost a sense of what’s affordable lol
Nice vessel though for sure