10 Mistakes that Changed the Video Game Industry!

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  • @tuathanbashieres3262
    @tuathanbashieres3262 10 днів тому +2

    The console wars were wild, I earned a virtual purple heart 😂

    • @Fortefyre
      @Fortefyre  9 днів тому +1

      I got a bronze star ;P

  • @mr.milehi9883
    @mr.milehi9883 13 днів тому +6

    Now you know one of the many reasons that you're the only video game channel I subscribe to. You're going to hit 8,000 any minute now. You've worked hard you put the videos out there. You play Tetris with your grandma! I don't know what anybody that watches a video game channel could want for more. Still looking forward to the 10 times Atari screwed their programmers episode someday. Thanks as always man.

    • @themidcentrist
      @themidcentrist 12 днів тому +1

      Yeap, and some of those programmers formed Activision. And then we came full circle and most of the biggest game companies are back to screwing their programmers compared to similarly skilled workers in other industries. I have a friend who is an Aeronautical Engineer and they DO get overtime pay if they have to "crunch" for example.

    • @Fortefyre
      @Fortefyre  12 днів тому +1

      Don't forget some broke out from Activision to create Accolade and Acclaim :P

  • @minhajahmed-m1t
    @minhajahmed-m1t 8 днів тому +1

    I love how you break down strategies in this game. Your channel deserves way more attention, and I can already see it becoming a favorite for gamers

  • @erneststackhouse1133
    @erneststackhouse1133 9 днів тому +2

    Due to no internet back in the day we knew the Konami Code as the Bad Attitude Code! A-Team was big back in that day & we recited the opening narration with a few tweeks! A crack commando unit keeps on dying on a level they didn't complete. if you have a problem & no one else can help they came up with the Bad Attitude Code!
    Maybe you can put in the BA Code! (Because the Konami Code ended with buttons B&A) This code help relieve your bad attitude of not going far & made the game fun again!

    • @Fortefyre
      @Fortefyre  9 днів тому +1

      Haha that's a dope cultural reference!

  • @ErosXCaos
    @ErosXCaos 13 днів тому +7

    Doom’s Monster in-fighting is a legendary happy accident. It’s impossible to imagine the game without it. And the kinds of levels it allows to be created are mind blowing.

    • @Fortefyre
      @Fortefyre  12 днів тому +2

      That ALMOST made it.

    • @KasumiRINA
      @KasumiRINA 11 днів тому +1

      I notice a lot of discussions claiming that we should play games "as intended" by developers... To which I always answer, some of the things they intended didn't work, even more they couldn't make as they wanted, and others just make the game better despite being unintended, like WASD controls in id shooters.

  • @necrogenesis1981
    @necrogenesis1981 12 днів тому +4

    If you say the Konami code to Siri it calls you a cheater lol

  • @djpythonsexotics2704
    @djpythonsexotics2704 12 днів тому +4

    Siri calls me a nerd when I give her the Konami code. :)

  • @DongCorleone
    @DongCorleone 12 днів тому +5

    I wonder if there is content out there for say a.....10 game marketing mistakes or 10 best game marketing strategies? Just a thought. Good video as always sir. Cheers

    • @Fortefyre
      @Fortefyre  12 днів тому +3

      Absolutely, I've added it to the list!

  • @jeffdaigle5487
    @jeffdaigle5487 12 днів тому +3

    Ahh yes the scary ass fog! To this day silent Hill still gives me goose bumps when I play it ... And I love it. Another banger bro keep them coming. Peace

  • @mikeburkhart8336
    @mikeburkhart8336 12 днів тому +5

    There was a slight mistake in the original Final Fantasy where there was a point in the lower continent that intruded into the northern part of the outside map. At this point stronger enemies like Frost Wolves and Frost Giants would appear earlier in the game then they were supposed to. Square Soft or Square Enix didn't correct that mistake in a lot of remakes to it on other systems.

    • @Fortefyre
      @Fortefyre  12 днів тому +4

      Yep, I abused the peninsula of power lol. Great for grinding.

  • @zooropa04
    @zooropa04 12 днів тому +4

    Star Wars Demolition had to be rated Teen for the scene of Tia and Ghia in defeat, right? (Being scantily clad, bound, and humiliated by being forced to serve Jabba food while Salacious Crumb laughs at them -- there's like half a dozen fetishes in there, lol.)

    • @Fortefyre
      @Fortefyre  12 днів тому +2

      One of the characters gets tortured if I recall, the wookie one lol.

  • @clarafedde8674
    @clarafedde8674 12 днів тому +4

    Can we add the "RPGs are too hard for Americans." is the reason we missed out on many great rpg games. Its ironic since the snes 10 list has 7 of them. It makes me mad that dragon quest 5 was planned to be released overseas but cancelled cause of that sentiment. Even was in magazines at the time.

    • @MrVariant
      @MrVariant 11 днів тому +1

      Lol go play 7th saga. That was made even harder for the US. I remember renting it and learning they did that for more genres to fight rentals which were illegal in Japan 🤣. Let alone a lot of rpgs are full of useless moves like Marle's aura combos in chrono trigger when items healed more and slurp kiss healed status and more hp. Ff6 psycho cyan bug or taking a whole menu screen for slow charging bushido was insane too.

    • @KasumiRINA
      @KasumiRINA 11 днів тому +1

      Eh, to play unlikely devil's advocate for Americans, Europe didn't get most jRPGs either, our first Final Fantasy was VII.

    • @MrVariant
      @MrVariant 11 днів тому +1

      @KasumiRINA at least ya got terranigma unlike the US lol action rpg but still.

    • @clarafedde8674
      @clarafedde8674 11 днів тому +1

      I'll bite that. Actually Europe got one, it was Final Fantasy USA (japan name), us called it final fantasy Mystic quest, and EU called it Mystic quest legends. Lufia 2 was called just Lufia in Europe, and Europe got the 3rd quintet action rpg game terranigma (soul blazer and illusion of gaia/time) trilogy that us missed out.
      Now this is important as most get this wrong, the us Final Fantasy II is not Final Fantasy IV but actually an updated version of Final Fantasy IV easy type. Yes they made the same game 3 times.
      Yes, I'm very aware of 7th saga difficulty....as well as Working Designs. Happy they released many rpgs, not happy how they handled them...and #### you Ted Woosley...

    • @MrVariant
      @MrVariant 11 днів тому

      @clarafedde8674 thanks for the infk though I liked Ted Woolsey lol son of a submariner, you're mad. I do miss his super mario rpg enemy names too.

  • @ghost_asçldkfj
    @ghost_asçldkfj 8 днів тому

    Great video bro, really great!

  • @MCastleberry1980
    @MCastleberry1980 13 днів тому +4

    Apparently in the fine print of the Sony deal was that Sony would get 100% of the sales. Nintendo tried to renegotiate because that was insane, Sony said no, and that's when Nintendo was like "Fuck this, we'll work with your biggest competitor" Then when the Sega CD didn't do well, Nintendo decided to abandon the project entirely.

    • @Fortefyre
      @Fortefyre  12 днів тому +4

      And I'm glad they did. I mean to be fair they tried it again with the N64DD. But that was a massive commercial failure as well.

    • @MCastleberry1980
      @MCastleberry1980 12 днів тому

      @Fortefyre only time something like that really worked was the Famicom Disc System it seems like.

  • @DJB0X3R
    @DJB0X3R 12 днів тому +4

    I remember the Silent Hill re-master or should I say de-master when they removed the fog.

    • @Fortefyre
      @Fortefyre  12 днів тому +3

      Noooo. That fog needs to be there!

    • @MerkhVision
      @MerkhVision 12 днів тому +1

      The fog is essential to the atmosphere, and that creepy atmosphere is one of the best things about that game! Removing it makes no sense, even if the original reason for it being there was due to technical limitations that have long been overcome.

  • @Waytigo
    @Waytigo 13 днів тому +2

    14:27 holy shit is that thee Phil Hartman??

  • @billcook4768
    @billcook4768 13 днів тому +4

    Back in the day, Konami Arcade Advance was my most played game on the GBA. Endless hours on each of the games. Never occurred to me to try the Konami code. A decade later I read the code had cool changes to the games. /facesmack

    • @Fortefyre
      @Fortefyre  12 днів тому +3

      Even google reacted for a while when you did it haha.

  • @UltimateGamerCC
    @UltimateGamerCC 13 днів тому +4

    1. Buying Microtransactions like Horse Armor from TES: Oblivion. on the plus side, we got some amazing Post-Launch DLC in Games such as Fallout New Vegas' DLC content. but on the negative end, the Industry is dead set on nickel and dime'ing the playerbase, to the point that they are witholding a lot of content to be added in DLCs later on.

    • @Fortefyre
      @Fortefyre  12 днів тому +2

      DLCs and microtransactions are TOTAL cancer to the industry.

    • @Guy-McPerson
      @Guy-McPerson 12 днів тому +1

      ​@Fortefyre it's terminal, too. After the cosmetic mount DLC for wow ended up generating more revenue than the entirety of starcraft 2, the gaming scene became infected with an incurable illness. Every studio saw those numbers and started pushing their devs to leave their morals and ethics at the door.

    • @KasumiRINA
      @KasumiRINA 11 днів тому +1

      Unfortunately it was always predatory. From making games hard for arcades to forcing operators to update same Street Fighter half a dozen times to making sure home game is hard enough to not be beaten by rental... And then there were expansions that cost like full game but only added a few dungeons.

    • @BratislavMetulski
      @BratislavMetulski 10 днів тому

      It is the people who know nothing about gaming, that always come up with the DLCs 😂 that isnt new and it didnt start with Oblivion. That startet in the 80s.
      It wasnt called DLC and obviously wasnt a download. It was called a (insert content describing word) disc. Test Drive 2 in 1989 had 2 car discs (like Forza does today).
      All the big games had such stuff. X Wing, Command & Conquer, Diablo...
      Do your homework before you come up with: DlC iS cAnCeR 😂

  • @themidcentrist
    @themidcentrist 12 днів тому +3

    I have a complete in box OG 1975 vintage Tele-Games / Atari home Pong console (which isn't actually worth much money). Just for fun I took it to Gamestop and "tried" to trade it for a PS4. We all had a good laugh. I also have a Channel F but haven't tried it. I love the history but anything that came before the 2600 has my respect but the actual gameplay is too archaic for my tastes. The 2600 is a NEO-GEO compared to the Channel F and a PS5 Pro compared to the RCA Studio II.

    • @Fortefyre
      @Fortefyre  11 днів тому +1

      That's EPIC. Not surprised about Gamestop though lmao.

  • @kitbct1444
    @kitbct1444 12 днів тому +3

    Talking about GTA San Andreas but forgetting about GOW 2 and 3....

    • @Fortefyre
      @Fortefyre  12 днів тому +2

      I mean, it was "implied" relations if I recall lol.

    • @kitbct1444
      @kitbct1444 12 днів тому +1

      @Fortefyre more than implied, there's a mini game where you press buttons as they appear on screen while kratos has a threesome. The main action is done off camera but you can hear everything and when it's over the camera pans back and the ladies are topless and uncensored.

    • @Fortefyre
      @Fortefyre  8 днів тому +1

      I'll cover that in scandal :P

    • @kitbct1444
      @kitbct1444 8 днів тому

      @@Fortefyre haha that's awesome.

  • @pharmcat8484
    @pharmcat8484 12 днів тому +4

    Crash 3 incoming. The death of AAA gaming

    • @Fortefyre
      @Fortefyre  12 днів тому +3

      Is it bad that I WANT it to happen? The indie market has carried gaming for MUCH longer than it should have had to.

    • @ExtremeWreck
      @ExtremeWreck 11 днів тому

      Ehhh, it won't be a crash, more like a screeching halt. It's no longer early 80s USA when you had no other choices.

    • @KasumiRINA
      @KasumiRINA 11 днів тому +1

      I bet everyone who speaks about AAA being doomed will buy extra special edition of GTA6, I know I'll try to play Mass Effect 5.

    • @BratislavMetulski
      @BratislavMetulski 10 днів тому +1

      A crash that wont come. The industry trained generation fortnite to buy and dont ask questions. They will switch business modells but AAA is here to stay.

    • @ExtremeWreck
      @ExtremeWreck 10 днів тому

      @@BratislavMetulski It may "come", but it won't be a crash, but more like a screeching halt on some parts of the profit. They'll still pump out games, just not AS frequently(but still largely frequent).

  • @vxicepickxv
    @vxicepickxv 13 днів тому +3

    Nobody had to pay to put games on an Atari back then. There was no licensing, bring your own hardware.

    • @Fortefyre
      @Fortefyre  12 днів тому +3

      So when I talked to Al Lowe, he mentioned the price of cartridges being produced. I think that's what I was referring to when I scripted this.

  • @KasumiRINA
    @KasumiRINA 11 днів тому +1

    14:38 SONY won two and survived its third generation by their consoles being often bought as CD/DVD/Blu-ray player at the time those were still expensive. A CD changer would be much more expensive than a PS1, and PS2 was released at the time DVDs were a luxury.
    In SEGA section you mentioned their blunders during PlayStation release, but they made Dreamcast later, and it was legit amazing being the ONLY truly next gen console before PS2. Hell, it had keyboard and internet support, they packed it with features that weren't appreciated, when people bought PS2 as a DVD player.
    32X and Sega CD were WTF things, Saturn made the mistake of being released in the generation where PSX curbstomped everything (NOBODY I know had N64 in my country) and when they had an actually good console that was ahead of the competition they blundered the marketing, and make same mistake with proprietary GDI disc format Sony themselves did with PSP's UMD.
    When you say "I miss SEGA" I remember getting Dead or Alive 2 for sadly now late friend's birthday, and we played SoulCalibur, Sonic Adventure and Zombie Revenge together, it was absolutely like NOTHING else at the time.

    • @Fortefyre
      @Fortefyre  11 днів тому

      Right!?! The dreamcast was solid, I truly wish it would have survived.

  • @mr.milehi9883
    @mr.milehi9883 13 днів тому +3

    So I guess you won't be breaking out your NFL 97 for the Sega Saturn again huh?

    • @Fortefyre
      @Fortefyre  12 днів тому +1

      I sure will, NHL is one of my favorite sports game franchises!

  • @Phil926
    @Phil926 12 днів тому +5

    RIP Phil Hartman!!
    I was a Nintendo kid.

    • @Fortefyre
      @Fortefyre  12 днів тому +1

      He was taken wayyyy too soon.

    • @bildo1977
      @bildo1977 12 днів тому +1

      Phil was also in the commercial of Ice Hockey by Activision for the Atari 2600.

    • @clarafedde8674
      @clarafedde8674 12 днів тому +1

      He voiced the superhero Blasto, yes it was a terrible game, but loved Phil Hartman. It was one of his last roles.

    • @Stinger420
      @Stinger420 11 днів тому +2

      "I might be just a caveman, but...". Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer vid...ua-cam.com/video/2AzAFqrxfeY/v-deo.htmlsi=k0NUxEWzoMckSecw

  • @KasumiRINA
    @KasumiRINA 11 днів тому +1

    11:04 It's correct that people who don't have DLC characters IN AN ONLINE GAME still need to have the files downloaded on-disc so people who bought it won't be gated from fighting those who haven't, the WTF thing here is that they were already bundled on disc ON RELEASE! The way Tekken does DLC, is bringing new characters in an update, when everyone downloads their files but only those who paid for extras (which cost money to produce) will be able to play AS those characters. But they will be able to play against them regardless... Because the entire point of DLC is updating game post-launch and not cutting away stuff to sell it separately. Which on-disc DLC is, apart form Lei & others in SFxT, notably Mass Effect 3's From Ashes. Always intended as part of main game, changed to deluxe preorder bull because EA.
    P.S. Tekken obviously better than Street Fighter but Harada with his crap is annoying as hell, and toxic fandom, I still remember them attacking anyone mocking Heihachi being TOTALLY dead now when he was the obvious first DLC... and Bamco is still bad for cutting characters to make them DLC, which is usually the same guys getting cut every other game. It also messes with muscle memory since cut character moves are usually inherited by remaining ones, and then on re-introduction we get like a completely different Kunoichi or Armor King that doesn't play like himself anymore since his entire moveset was merged into new king in 3.

    • @Fortefyre
      @Fortefyre  11 днів тому

      I love Tekken now, but as a kid I did prefer SF lol

  • @mr.milehi9883
    @mr.milehi9883 13 днів тому +4

    That's right. Nintendo seal of quality! That's why you get such incredible NES classics like SWAMP THING!? It's a good idea in theory. Basically all it means is Nintendo gets money so we give a pass to everything even cyberpunk 2077

    • @vxicepickxv
      @vxicepickxv 13 днів тому +2

      The Nintendo seal of quality was "this is official hardware built by Nintendo"

    • @Fortefyre
      @Fortefyre  12 днів тому +2

      Yeah Nintendo was kind of sketchy with it haha.

    • @KasumiRINA
      @KasumiRINA 11 днів тому

      They were notorious for brand locking, you had to make exclusives for them or go find other console.
      Square did.

  • @bildo1977
    @bildo1977 12 днів тому +3

    When the Sega Genesis came out, the slogan was “Genesis does what Nintendon’t” because it was competing with the original NES.
    When the Super Nintendo Entertainment System was released, the Sega USA marketing gurus came up with the buzz phrase “blast processing”. There are still idiot Sega fanboys who think that the Sega Genesis really has “blast processing”. Why didn’t Sega mention “blast processing” from the very beginning? More like “talking out of their ass processing”.
    I’m not crapping on the legacy of the Genesis. It has its fair share of great games. Nobody can take away anyone’s enjoyment of said great games. But overall, Nintendo made a system that had superior capabilities with the SNES over the Genesis.

    • @Fortefyre
      @Fortefyre  12 днів тому +2

      Blast processing was such a lie, JESUS was it a lie.

    • @KasumiRINA
      @KasumiRINA 11 днів тому

      Outside of select countries Sega Mega Drive 2 was THE only 16 bit console tho, we had Famiclones lime Dendy and Subor followed by Segas and then PlayStation. I learned of SNES as an emulator to play Final Fantasy games that existed before the one everybody knew, 7.

  • @mr.milehi9883
    @mr.milehi9883 13 днів тому +2

    It's a shame that modern game consoles are almost mood when they bring out better versions on the PC or whatever. It seems almost pointless to waste your money on a game console in this day and age.

    • @billcook4768
      @billcook4768 13 днів тому +2

      Assuming you have a powerful gaming pc.

    • @Fortefyre
      @Fortefyre  12 днів тому +1

      Yeah I don't bother with many modern games unless it's expressly requested.

  • @StarlightMirror
    @StarlightMirror 11 днів тому +1

    Nintendo backing out of their deal Sony to create an add on for the Snes, that definitely was a mistake on Nintendo's part. XD

    • @Fortefyre
      @Fortefyre  11 днів тому +1

      The N64DD wasn't that better :P

    • @StarlightMirror
      @StarlightMirror 11 днів тому +1

      @@Fortefyre Oh definitely, it was so good they kept it exclusive to Japan lol

    • @Fortefyre
      @Fortefyre  11 днів тому +1

      @@StarlightMirror FACTS LMAO

  • @mchenrynick
    @mchenrynick 12 днів тому +1

    13:08 "Nintendo established quality control standards" ... then how come we ended up with so many crappy NES games??? LJN comes to mind LOL!

    • @Fortefyre
      @Fortefyre  12 днів тому +1

      I'm pretty sure some companies slid a $20 to Nintendo lmfao

    • @ExtremeWreck
      @ExtremeWreck 11 днів тому

      Well, there had to have been SOME sense of a quality standard so that the games will at least function(Sssnake on the Atari 2600 straight up crashes upon dying as an example of what Nintendo of America wouldn't let slide).

    • @mchenrynick
      @mchenrynick 11 днів тому

      @@ExtremeWreck There definitely was restrictions on content. Nothing like Atari Porn or that chainsaw massacre game on Nintendo. Yes, those were real games on the Atari 2600!

  • @CobbicusPrime
    @CobbicusPrime 13 днів тому +1

    I'm a little over an hour from Eglin.

    • @Fortefyre
      @Fortefyre  12 днів тому

      Nice! I'm in Milton!

    • @CobbicusPrime
      @CobbicusPrime 12 днів тому

      @Fortefyre oh awesome. I lived in Pensacola for a year when I was at UWF. I'm in Malone, which is a little north of Marianna.

  • @RabidBeave
    @RabidBeave 12 днів тому +1

    Eglin brochachos unite!!!

  • @mr.milehi9883
    @mr.milehi9883 12 днів тому +1

    Accolade? It's the company that doesn't deserve any of those not they met well at the beginning with their early PC things but things sure got bad for the genesis. Ballistic? And even worse it's been off of the aforementioned it's not Halloween but I'm scaring the shit out of myself.

    • @Fortefyre
      @Fortefyre  11 днів тому

      I hate accolade with a burning passion.

  • @Marc_Araujo
    @Marc_Araujo 11 днів тому

    Fallout Tactics: Brotherhood of Steel on PC is my favorite of the classic Fallout games. So many different things could happen randomly at any moment. Really underrated game. That Brotherhood of Steel game on XBox was straight doodoo.

    • @Fortefyre
      @Fortefyre  11 днів тому +1

      100% agree. I could have used the proper footage when talking about it lol.

  • @Kilthan2050
    @Kilthan2050 10 днів тому +1

    Jrpgs are offshoots of Ultima 3.

    • @Fortefyre
      @Fortefyre  10 днів тому +1

      And wizardry as well.

    • @Kilthan2050
      @Kilthan2050 9 днів тому

      @@Fortefyre also very true. The Etrain Odyssey series of modern jrpg dungeon crawlers are a blast. I"m old school, ultima and wizardry are my favorites, U7 and Wiz7.

  • @lordterra1377
    @lordterra1377 9 днів тому +1

    Nice content, but many do wish for a Fallout 3 successor in the traditional style. It was prototyped as project Van Buran I beleive.
    I tried all the newer ones and it actually lost much of its appeal to me. They are not bad games but ditch much of the classic CRPG feel.

  • @PixelsNcreatureS
    @PixelsNcreatureS 11 днів тому +1

    I have a boxed Channel F. We're the same age. becoming brittle and weak. Both of us

    • @Fortefyre
      @Fortefyre  11 днів тому +1

      That's metal as hell

  • @gamingtheologian8515
    @gamingtheologian8515 9 днів тому +1

    If you've never read Console Wars, you really should.
    Also, just emailed you.

    • @Fortefyre
      @Fortefyre  8 днів тому

      I'll check, holidays have been gnarly.

    • @gamingtheologian8515
      @gamingtheologian8515 8 днів тому

      @@Fortefyre Basically, I have finished that research paper on the allegedly link between video games and school shootings.
      If you want to do another longer project, I thought maybe we could discuss it together.

    • @Fortefyre
      @Fortefyre  8 днів тому

      @@gamingtheologian8515 I saw the email, the tough part is that it might be dangerous for my channel considering the topic.

    • @gamingtheologian8515
      @gamingtheologian8515 8 днів тому

      @@Fortefyre Your call.

  • @nebwachamp
    @nebwachamp 11 днів тому +1

    When i first subbed u were getting less than 100 views in a week.
    Glad to see growth.
    0430 wake up so turn that shit off.

    • @Fortefyre
      @Fortefyre  11 днів тому

      I appreciate you sticking around! I'm still just a speck of dust in the overall landscape of retro gaming channels, but I still have fun with it.

  • @ghah5701
    @ghah5701 12 днів тому

    Downvoted for saying "folks".

    • @KasumiRINA
      @KasumiRINA 11 днів тому +1

      Whut? Did Looney Tunes hurt your dog?

    • @Fortefyre
      @Fortefyre  11 днів тому

      🤣