Talking insomnia #70: From medications, depression and insomnia to peace. Chris' journey!
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- Опубліковано 1 вер 2021
- When Chris was in the midst of an intense battle, he promised himself that if he go to the other side, he would pay it forward. Now that he has left battle, he shares his story to help the community, just as he had promised himself!
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Are you thinking of a new career helping the world sleep better? Would you like to pay forward by helping those still struggling? Are you looking for a coaching niche with few knowledgeable coaches and a vast unmet need?
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Would you like to work with a sleep coach? Awesome! Here are some great options:
- The Insomnia Immunity Group Coaching Program.
- BedTyme, a sleep coaching app for iOS and Android offering 1:1 text based coaching.
- Zoom based 1:1 coaching with Coach Michelle.
The Insomnia Immunity program is perfect if you like learning through video and want to join a group on your journey towards sleeping well.
BedTyme is ideal if you like to learn via text and have a sleep coach in your pocket.
The 1:1 Zoom based program is for you if you like to connect one on one with someone who has been where you are now.
For more about these programs here: www.thesleepcoachschool.com
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Do you like learning by reading? If so, here are two books that offer breakthroughs!
Set it & Forget it by Daniel Erichsen
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This is Natto by Daniel Erichsen
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Not sure where to start? Check out these playlists!
This is natto - the perfect place to start learning!
• This is Natto - Start ...
Success stories - if you need hope and inspiration, this is for you.
• Success stories
Insomnia insight - a list of every single episode.
• Playlist
Talking insomnia - guests with trouble sleeping or experts share their stories / tips.
• Talking insomnia
Hypnic jerks, hypnic awareness and other common issues.
• Hypnic jerks and more.
Fatal insomnia - for those concerned about ffi and sfi.
• Familial and sporadic ...
Speed bumps - when you think you had a setback or “relapse.”
• Talking insomnia #55: ...
The self coaching model
• The model
Best!
This content does not constitute medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment, and should never replace any advice given to you by your physician or other qualified healthcare providers. - Розваги
Go, Chris! So thankful that he is one of my coaches!
Debbie, it’s an absolute pleasure and honor to support you throughout your journey of insomnia recovery! I’m truly humbled and grateful. Thank you for placing your trust in The Sleep Coach School. We are all rooting for you!
Good job Daniel thanks for all your help
Thank you Chris ❤
I am in tears.... this is the first time in years that I hear anything that makes sense regarding my family's situation. Thank you.
I just took a screenshot of this comment to send to Chris… he will be so glad his story resonated so much. Thank you 🙏 it means so much you shared this
At 17:20, that part where he said sitting with that feeling for too long sucks. I felt that in the past. Great video ! Thanks for sharing! Bedtyme a genius idea !
Malena! It’s not easy for sure, but so helpful when we take this path. Thanks for being in touch and have a nice long weekend!!
Great perspective!
Thank you Daniel and Chris for this beautiful insight. I could relate so much to what you were saying, Thank you for sharing your thoughts and definitely go for the sleep coaching! 🙂
So wonderful to read that this was relatable and helpful Veronika. I know it means a lot to Chris and it certainly does to me as well 😊
Thank you Veronika I’m happy to share! I’m currently studying to become a sleep coach and looking very forward to helping others along their paths!
This is crazy powerful! Finally someone who did more than me, a brain scan! Wow!!! Would love to talk to him about his experience
It’s definitely amazing the lengths some of us have gone to in order to find or diagnose a disorder or disease that isn’t there to begin with! The only DISORDER is in our thinking and with that acknowledgement we can finally move forward and reach a place of peace.
@@chriscarrion8018 do you do any one ones? I don’t have a severe issue anymore but I think you went through some dark times just like me and I’d like to just ask you a few questions
@chris carrion this is so true, what you replied. Made me emotional reading that and hopeful
Great video! So encouraging!!!
Thanks Lynette!!
Thank you Lynetta!
This is so good to hear!
There is hope! I’m feeling more optimistic about my insomnia and anxiety as time goes on. My insomnia got triggers with major worry and anxiety and some personal issues. But getting past those issues the insomnia is still here a bit,
But as I said, becoming less worried about sleep. And trying to get on with life. Like you said , don’t go to the battle!
This is the way 😊 Thanks for sharing and being here Mario!
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I’m feeling depressed, anxious and suffering from insomnia dose your program help with all of that too?
I am seeing a new therapist currently atm.
Hi Mario,
You know, I say everyone with insomnia are experiencing fear/anxiety. Or in other words, insomnia is just a surface manifestation of fear just like palpitations. And what you learn about insomnia, it applies to all emotions I believe.
Let me share some more on this Mario:
What impact depression and anxiety have are very common questions. And a lot of people wonder if they can sleep well when they are depressed or when they have anxiety. People also often ask if insomnia will cause them to be more depressed or have more anxiety.
I think of it in a very different way. I think that depression or anxiety or chronic fatigue or insomnia all come from the same place - a place of avoidance.
The human experience is full of discomfort. And a lot of that is emotional discomfort. Sadness for example has a practical purpose, is there so we play dead when we face overwhelming odds. Anxiety is there for safety when we are facing and I’m certain threats.
Now our human brains are survival machines and they are always there to keep us safe. But nowadays, when there is less physical traits around us, the brain can easily get confused.
When the brain starts looking at sadness as a threat, a problem, something that we have too much of, something that we need to get away from, that’s when the sadness gets really sticky.
Just like the more we try to escape from wakefulness the more insomnia we have, the more we try to escape sadness the more depressed we become.
And when we try to escape the emotion of anxiety, we become more and more anxious. It is very similar to how when we try to escape thoughts that are unpleasant, when we try to shut off the brain, we get racing thoughts.
So I think it is very helpful to apply everything you learn about insomnia to depression or anxiety and you’ll find it really helpful I believe.
And learning, you don’t have to join any program for this. All the information is here on the channel. Coaching is only if you’d like some more help connecting the dots.
good job 👍
Great content ! I just found out one interesting thing which i never thought of before - sleepdrive is overpoerring also physical pain i always thought you have to be feeling well in order to sleep. I slept fine even when i was in pain (eyestrain and headaches) after i woke up pain was back but not intense. Regards Georg
Hi Georg and thanks for being in touch! You know, it could be Sleep drive but I think perhaps it’s more simply that shift of focus. I remember someone on the channel sleeping well when his worries shifted to abdominal things. When our mind is busy solving one problem, then other things are off the radar and don’t bother us much. Which goes to say that if we have problems we enjoy solving, like playing gold or creating art or whatever it is.. then many things bother us less!
Another great episode can resonate soo much ❤️
So glad you found this Tracey, knowing where Chris comes from I think can be so helpful 😊
Chris, I love your suggestion that insomnia can become a sort of Night School. Thanks to you I must now revise my understanding of what ‘Florida Man’ means…! ❤ 🐊 ❤ 🐊 ❤ 🐊
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Way to hang in there Chris! I know you learned so much about yourself, and you're that much stronger. I know you will learn to be a great sleep coach.
Thanks Sean and yes absolutely! There’s so much positive that I have taken from this experience. Super excited to give back!
@@chriscarrion8018 Hi Chris, sorry for hijacking this thread but I wanted to say thank you for sharing this story. I’m in a really dark place right now and it gave me a slight bit of hope hearing someone else was there too mentally and got better so maybe I can too. Can I ask what helped you the most with the anxiety/mental part of your journey? I know the theory behind all this and did the education part of insomnia but the anxiety is still so overwhelming and it sounds like you were there too.
Hi Maja! I’m sorry you’re in a dark place now but hang in there! It does get better! In the end what helped me was truly coming to terms with having to let go completely of all the attachments and desires I had in place around sleep. I had built a wall of protection around me but that wall was actually keeping me from getting to that better place! My anxiety really wanted to be felt so we made a mutual agreement. I agreed to feel it and listen to it and in return it would leave me alone. It does take some practice and time but it can absolutely be done!
@@chriscarrion8018 Wow. Love that about the 'deal' you did with your anxiety. and how it went. Really helpful & inspiring as is your video 😊
Amazing interview, thanks for being brave and sharing your story! I can 100% relate!
Daniels Channel and BedTyme have been a lifesaver to me too, and stories like yours Chris are what made all the difference and were actually the key to my recovery! I think you’ll be a fabulous sleep coach!
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Thank you for your kind words! Success stories definitely helped keep me afloat when things were very heavy for me! I’m glad I now have the opportunity to be that beacon of light that so many were for me. ♥️ 💡 🙏🏻
@@chriscarrion8018 This is so inspiring! I know you suffered lots, but know that your suffering was not for nothing. It sounds like you really grew from the experience. You are helping others who are on this difficult journey and it sounds like you're a great dad too.
@@beaniez8854 I appreciate the kind words! Suffering can absolutely be a great teacher! Anything I can do to help others definitely makes it worthwhile!
@@chriscarrion8018 At your worst, how much were you sleeping? Did you have a string of sleepless nights in a row? I'm in the thick of it right now, and need medication every few nights because of sleep depravation headaches.
I commented in another video that I also had a breakdown and ended up in a psych ward. If that isn't proof of the importance of sleep for mental health, I don't know what is.
This is powerful, I need this guy as a coach.
I told him 😁! Thanks for the support Natasha 👍
Thank you so much Natasha! That really means a lot. I look forward to sharing all that I know and all that I will learn on this new path to help others.
@@chriscarrion8018 Amen! I can totally relate to your story. The sleeping pills, I almost checked myself into a mental health institution as well. I know if you can be healed and conquer this, so can i.
I recognize myself totally especially been in control and feeling there is no hope for me am struggling so bad thank you Daniel for these inspiring videos
Anytime Silvia, I’m so happy you saw that others have been there and find the way to peace.
His experience, This is literally me right now, feel like I’m going crazy, I’m getting zero sleep. For days, day 6 right now! I will be looking into this.
Hang in there Angela, I’m glad you could relate to Chris, knowing we aren’t alone helps so much
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How is your sleep now?
Recently sfi and ffi have been keeping awake with insomnia 😴 hopefully it's just my anxiety
Hi Schierke, you know, it’s one of the most common worries on this channel… often it can help to see how others had the same worry and saw that it was anxiety.. Jake was a guest not long ago and shared this, it may help to listen to that episode
This is so like me. I went to the ER and was admitted. Never, never do I want to do that again! It was so bad, so noisy and they kept checking on me constantly. My troubles that sent me there started when I stupidly but lovingly slept in the bed with our aging dog that had senility so that he wouldn't keep us up by walking around all night. It was lie sleep deprivation totrture.
Sounds brutal Amy, glad you saw that it isn’t strange or unusual though, this always helps. And you know, that was a very kind thing to do for your family volunteering to sleep next to the dog
would you consider insomnia to be in the category of compulsive disorders? like it's compulsive to reach for a new substance or supplement to ease the distress or compulsively thinking about what couldve caused a sleepless night?
Hi Sunada,
You know if you listen to Talking insomnia 66 and 67 you’ll hear Andreas share his ideas which are mine also. There is no disorder, just a brain that wants to keep us safe.
I think the reason we have recurring thoughts and a desire to release tension by doing something comes from the same place as the struggles we call insomnia or anxiety. So yes I think they all come from the same place!
And like Andreas when you abandon the struggle on one from, soon you’ve abandoned the entire thing and peace happens!
Would you say the majority of people you treat for insomnia eventually overcome it? I have not been down the rabbit hole in 3 years but it is always in the back of my mind that it can happen again, especially after a night of not so perfect sleep. However I was not aware of you or martin reed back when I was going through it.
Hi! I would say first that I don’t treat anyone, I just provide education and support. And also, that you know, to me it’s not something to overcome, it’s more something that stops existing when there’s no confusion or worry. But yes, when that worry isn’t there, when we know whatever is happening is normal, then there’s no more struggle. I have no statistics, but my experience has been that when you’re ready to learn and find some courage within…. Peace happens!
Thanks for this video. You have helped me a lot, Daniel. Iv had insomnia a few times and came out of it with your help, your book. I tappered off of lex@pro 2 years. I just fully came off 11 days ago. Horrible withdrawals even with a slow tapper. Insomnia started last night. That is a withdrawal syptom as well. Im going to practice what you teach and what iv learned. Pray for my mind, and my body will level out and heal again.
Anytime Kristen, thank you for sharing and I’m soo glad things have gotten easier. Hang in there now, I’ll be rooting much for you 🙂 Let us know how things go
great video;how long did you guys work together before you started to see changes in your insomnia??where or how do i get your app..
Thanks Robert! I think it was 2 or 3 months. It’s called BedTyme and it’s in App Store and Google Play
What is your program And how does it work? I am in great need of help!
Hi Daniel,
Your Chanel and books have helped me so much. Thank you for your wonderful work.
Allow me to ask you a question - I mainly sleep well when I’m alone these days and even during speed bumps I manage to accept them mostly.
My insomnia started a year ago when sleeping with my boyfriend. He snores at times and after a few nights no sleep I found myself in this circle.
My boyfriend barley stayed owner since then. Now that I’m mostly sleeping better by myself we are trying to give this a try again. As soon as we do I find myself in total hyperarousal. I completely freak out and panic cause I’m scared and don’t know how to overcome this together. He is very supportive but I don’t manage to calm myself down when he’s in my space. I’m totally lost with how to approach this as I would love to have a normal relationship where we wake up together and fall asleep. I’m at a point where I don’t even dare to try anymore as this is very stressful for him aswell. What would you advise? I really try to apply the same things as when I’m alone but it just does seem so much harder and it’s backfiring. I’m so frustrated .. :(
So happy it’s helped Denise and you know, both “I can’t sleep with my partner which is what I want” and “I can’t sleep without my partner and I want to be able to do that” are very very common.
Check insomnia insight 457, it’s for someone in your situation, hope it will help much 🙂
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Thank you so much - the video was exactly the answer I was looking for or needing to hear. ♥️♥️ thanks for taking the time to support
So glad to hear 😊! And thanks for letting me know!
In the past I've had insomnia for like 3 months at a time and it resolved itself eventually. Now it's back and I barely slept this week. I called in sick from work today because I'm so exhausted. This night i was very tired and almost fell asleep but my body keeps waking me up with hypnic jerks/ fast heartbeats. Eventually I passed out and slept for about 2 hours and now it's 9 am. What can I do?
Hi Loris, when we have more trouble after things got easier, we call this a speed bump. Learning about this can help much, check our speed bump playlist, and let us know how things go
Did you have anxiety first before insomnia? Or did it start at the same time? Mine started to get worse after the anxiety started
Me too, how are you now
Same how are you both doing now?
My insomnia is 3 weeks in started with 2-3 hours now without meds I get only 1-1.5 hour is my case worse than others in terms of number of hours I’m sleeping. It feels my brain is trained not to sleep even when I am relaxed are any of you experiencing this. Also are people feeling their health deterioting. I’ve lost my appetite my belly hurts I get hot flushes and twitches
Hi MM,
Sorry to hear what’s happening but glad you’re here. You know, so many of the thoughts you identify here are common and you’ll see that even if we think something unusual is happening, something unique, even with experiencing lots of discomfort… this doesn’t stand in the way of learning and leaving the struggle!
I think if you just study the playlists This is Natto and the success stories one, things will be more and more clear.
Hang in there!
The Sleep Coach School
I appreciate your response. The doctors have given me zopiclone as a temporary relief. Do you think I should take them as a temporary relief
Anytime!
You know, firstly nothing here is medical advice (!). This said to me it’s not important if we take a sleeping pill or not but how we think about it.
It can help to know about delegation.
Medications really work by delegation.
The fundamental truth with sleep is that the more we try the less we sleep. When we take a sleeping pill and think “good, I don’t have to do anything about my sleep, it’s taken care of” then we are no longer trying to sleep. We delegated the task!
It’s true that they are sedating, but sedation alone doesn’t make you sleep. Sometimes people take a bunch of sleep meds in desperation and sleep no more. Because if we still try to sleep, it doesn’t happen.
Now, if someone takes a pill and thinks “this pill made me sleep” then there can be some trouble because they start believing that they need something to sleep. But if they understand that all sleep is natural, no problem!
Another thing that can create some struggle is conflict.
Many people are critical of themselves, especially when they take something but at the same time don’t want to take it.
Think about how people approach their nightly vitamins. Are they convinced they are essential for well being… probably not. Do they think they are very potent and it’s a must not to skip at any point… not really.
Now more importantly, does anyone feel guilty for taking some vitamins because they want to be well and healthy? Absolutely not! Does anyone criticize themselves for not being able to live well without taking vitamins? Not at all!
So I think it helps to be kind and gentle to oneself and this helps much.
So in summary, what we do isn’t so important, but rather how we think of it!!
The Sleep Coach School
I got you so basically I’m getting 6 hours sleep on sleeping pill but it’s not the medicine that’s making me sleep it’s the sense of security that I have it. So my body can sleep on its own
I believe this 100%!!
I really need help this insomnia is driving me crazy I feel sad with all this.
Hang in there Abigail, I’m glad you found this channel.
These are really good places to start:
This is natto - the perfect place to start learning!
ua-cam.com/play/PL6RQ1GS7B1cik8Xr8iVdxmKB9FYieevYj.html
Success stories - if you need hope and inspiration, this is for you.
ua-cam.com/play/PL6RQ1GS7B1cj68v9hdoXYv_fpOR65oI3U.html
I don’t get responses right away?
Sorry….just had a bad night. Loved this interview though.
No worries and Fran, so glad you found it 🙂
Pls add me in bedtime app
Hi Alam, it’s a program really, packaged as an app that you can download from the App Store or Google play