After reading all the DD's so far I'm really excited for the DLC even after 5k hours in the game. Impressive feat, last time I was this excited to play a DLC was NSB.
@@jamieedwards4475 i don't think you get much oil and chromium from the uk and colonies, you'll have to invade the Soviets as well. Perhaps even turkey
auturky achived is not unrealistic, its essentially free trade but everything you want truly exists within your borders its theorathically possible but impractical
But for some reason, paradox did not correct the borders of the eastern reichskommisariats (Osltand, Ukraine) in reality, their borders were completely different. And it also remains to be hoped that they have fixed the historical section of Yugoslavia
@@zincha2762 What do you mean by "the historical section of Yugoslavia"? what did they do wrong? itd be nice if youd let me know since im planning on making a mod fixing all historical issues with the Götterdämmerung DLC
@@guyfromgermany I mean the formation of the independent state of Croatia, and the annexation of Serbia by Germany. In a normal game, AI never does this
@@Lady_Amelia-Eloise Not really? The Mefo Bills was a debt that was promised to be paid eventually. This system forces you to have to pay for it while using it. That is not accurate. Steel said it himself. It was a debt that was promised to be paid (eventually) and they constantly extended the deadline for the payment. This new system does not represent that well. The bonuses are also not worth the cost at all. Why would I care about the AI's intel on me? They can't do much with it, unlike players
So essentially the war ends up at 2 different extremes, either the Soviets are unable to push Germany out of Russia or even capitulate. Or Germany isn't able to get a foot into the country @a.b3203
i hope that they dont forget about the decision the netherlands can do where you can prepare the evacuation of the gold reserves. also looking at the requierments for autarky. it doesnt look too bad. the steel is doable with just france mainland, same goes for aluminium. Oil is doable just by subjugating romania and letting them do their oil focuses. rubber 'just' requires 20 refineries with 39 tech (if the +2 rubber from refineries stays in the tech tree). tungsten is the hardest as you have to go out of your way to conquer in an 'unhistorical' way. ie conquer sweden, as its relatively easy. chromium is a bit easier if you are able to ask for northern macedon, otherwise, taking sweden should suffice as well
Wait did I see that right? Did anyone else notice Germany in black? It looks like that maybe all of their cores. It looks like you can core Scandinavia.
17:50 Ok. It does sound complicated. HOWEVER That is FANTASTIC for many nations if they intend to add it. Nations like Poland who had a "contested" government all the way into the 90s with the Soviet Polish state actually owning Poland and the Government in Exile still in London. Basically most of the Iron Curtin falls under this "Contested government" idea. They could do great things with that!
BTW what I was thinking was soviets have a way to set up Soviet Poland as a nation similar to a Reichskommisariat with the Soviets able to have a decision to create it as basically a puppet government but "Poland" still exists as a contested Government-in-Exile.
8:37 i think Army/Navy/Airforce Foci should also run on a variant of this, that when you hire a chief of Army, he automatically progresses your army branch, not as fast as if you did select the focus yourself, but let's say half as fast (so a 70 day focus would take 140 instead), which lets you (slowly) advance through your army tree while focusing on other things (or slightly accelerating your army progress as it could add-up if you end up selecting the same focus as your Chief of staff) this lightens the load for the player between the various branches, but also represent the army working on their projects to improve and prepare for the next war, gives more chances to benefit from some of the army bonuses as for example you're france, you usually never end up going through the navy focuses, so never play with the selection between "Rushing the Richelieus" or "Rushing the Joffre" to get a pair of 1940 BBs or a 1940 CV "fast" (or at least faster than building it without the focus help) what about exclusive/diverging branches? well the thing could be that each Chief of Staff has preferences depending on their advisorial role, so an army maneuver advisor would focus going down the foci that gives templates and bonuses for tanks, mechs and mots for example
What focus tree do you think gets reworked next? Japan, USA, or UK/France? My guess, Japan. And we will get some focus trees for Philippines and Thailand, maybe Vietnam, and maybe Taiwan as a hidden tree? Would be cool to see an alt history where the Philippines stays with the USA after the war and becomes a state.
Yeah. Japan is probably next with some South East Asian countries. Man the guns is not integrated into the game yet so I don't think a USA/UK rework is coming for some time
I like the new Economy of Conquest system, that being said, unless endgame sim speed issue is somewhat mitigated by improved AI, I don't see myself crossing the Atlantic to finish America off, let alone marching across Eurasian Steppes. I think most player would probably call it a win when economic Autarky is established.
4:35 if you can capture gold reserves does this also means government can exfiltrate their gold to colonies or friendly nations, like how Belgium lost their gold between I think Dakar and Tombouctou because of some train operator pulling the wrong switch. Also it's kinda weird to have a crossing the Atlantic focus, as you can just use Goëring as a carrier base, maybe it's for those time where you shoot him with a canon into Britain, who can tell.
I’m very excited about the dlc and I can’t wait to play. The fact remains that the allies can be defeated in one year making most of the tree flavor. Paratroopers can land when you reload a save and the ai plains get reshuffled. The ai doesn’t put their ships up when a country is guaranteed and declared on. They need to fix some holes or there will be some funny videos day one. There is also a work around to naval invade when you have military access. I don’t care if they patch it, but if they don’t a lot of these changes are role play features
It appears that Fascist Germany has options for diplomacy instead of military bullying. Interesting how diplo-fascist with sane economy will turn out. Interesting variant on the current democratic Germany - turn the Soviets into the bad guys.
i love this new economic system for Germany. The Autarky path is the historical path and it makes total sense. Germany's economy faltered at the end of the war and was one of the main reasons as to why they lost. I think it will also be very good for balancing how strong Germany will now be with the new AI changes as well, because at some point Germany's economy will falter and that will give you the opportunity to push back against them when their economy starts to suffer
Does 100% consumer goods factor mean that your consumer goods are doubled or does is it literally give you 100% consumer goods so that you can't use a single factory?
The thing about that debuff for the MEFO Bills (the worst one, that is) is that additional consumer goods modifier added on top of the 100% CGFF is that it's not CGFF... it's a modifier in lieu of how these consumer goods modifiers used to work where it's flat out added on top of the law, i.e. for Civilian Economy it goes from 35% consumer goods to 45% consumer goods, rather than 10% of 35% (so 3.5%) being added. So if you had Civ Economy with the worst MEFO Bills modifier, you'd be shilling 90% of your economy to the consumer gods, and even with Total Mob it'd go to 40%, not counting other potential modifiers. So yeah, it can easily get extremely nasty. Another thing to note is that Hess and Bormann, the only two guys to give you PP gain in the Inner Circle, are immediately mutually exclusive. This does make sense to some degree, as they both fulfilled the same role within Nazi society, and Hess took his fateful flight to Britain in part because he felt sidelined (because of favor shifting to Bormann) and powerless to prevent a two-front war that would inevitably destroy Germany. The choice to make them instantly mutually exclusive was likely to prevent two men from essentially occupying the same position at the same time, although historically Hitler initially favored Hess until he stopped being useful after the outbreak of war.
Also, I wonder if the contested ownership mechanic may also apply to factions of the Spanish Civil War, since most of them claimed rightful leadership of Spain. That, and it'd prevent things like Carlist Spain capitulating after only losing two states regardless of what they've conquered in the meantime. On the other hand, it'd make Spain much more of a pain than it is now.
Ha - there should be actually an event/decision for Poland "Evacuate Gold Reserves", which will render "Seize Gold Reserves" option for Germany unavailable against Poland, if taken by Poland. It should happen on historical, as the actual story of Polish gold reserves getting evacuated in 1939 is pretty epic.
If you zoom in on the screenshot of all the Reichkommissariats on the map you'll notice Germany has a new name 'Greater Germanic' rather than 'Greater German', I'm not sure if it's a new formable or just a cosmetic name but it's there.
I think the focuses around invading the US got added, because gameplaywise, if they join the allies, you will have some serious issues attempting to invade them. Historically it makes absolutely no sense, the nazis never wanted to invade the US and only some pre-war newspaper propaganda in the US even talked about this. Gameplaywise it absolutely makes sense. And in this case, unless they rework how peacing out an entire faction works, this is the only solution.
The Ressources needed for „Autarky Achieved“ don’t seem that crazy. Chromium in the Balkans, Aluminum in France, Oil in Romania. I think you should be able to do the Focus before Barbarossa.
I was fully expect the German rework to just do what the Italian alt fascist tree did and just give you like Goering and Himmler but it's really cool to see you can get multiple different interesting leaders for fascist germany
Will contested ownership make it so that in peace deals you can’t take occupied land from countries? For example if you invade German occupied poland and then it’s up for grabs in the peace deal.
I don't like the MEFO bills, +10% military factory construction speed literally means nothing because most players build a lot of civilian factories early game to greed the economy, and only start building millies around 1938, and the 10% consumer goods and dockyard building speed doesn't mean anything either. It would be cool if you had a decision that turns on MEFO bills, so that you could turn them on after you have already build the civilian factories you need, and where the millie construction speed modified (which is insignificant by the way) is needed. I get that it's more "realistic" but germany has always been the "tutorial" nation for new players and the first nation they play, playing germany is simple, you build your economy, build an army, conquer the world, playing germany is relaxing in a weird way. With this I think it will make it a bit less enjoyable because of all the micromanaging.
Germany has always been in a kind of unique situation with MEFO where it builds mills and get's it's civs from it's focus tree and eating it's neighbors with it's focus tree. Part of the typical strategy is use MEFO to build mills to make guns to race down the Anschluss to get Austria's civs because they would get a handful from their generic focus tree. That strategy is now entirely in the bin considering Austria is getting a full tree and MEFO has been changed into a micromanage mechanic.
My guts saying that this DLC would not replacing the old German focuses in the base game as the previous DLCs has done to Italians and Russians. 1) it would removing 3 paths for one, and after they integrating previous DLCs into base game it's a net loss for both player and Paradox. 2) A lot of mechanics seems to be tied together to each countries in this DLCs so unless they giving historical Austria and Hungary for free it's a low chance to giving the Germany as well. 3) I'm agree that the old German Focuses is essentialy a tutorial for new players because it's a very easy focus albeit a bland one. It seems that Paradox also agree on this on top of the "pay for more flavour" strategy.
@@shironee_2384if you don't own the new DLC you get the whole historical rework and the new mechanics in this DD and the alt history remains unchanged from WTT. If you own the DLC you get the new alt history focus trees for Germany. The special projects mechanic and the Austria and Hungary tree
The historical content for Germany that this DLC is showing will be for free but you will have to pay for the Alternate History content and everything else
Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass 1 36,99€ "Götterdämmerung" + "Graveyard of Empires" + "Prototype Vehicles" + "Ride of the Valkyries Music" of course it would be nice if the DLCs were cheaper, but in that case Paradox might become like EA or Ubisoft and release the "same" game again and again every couple of years with only a few changes and improvements. + "same" DLCs again.
@@Seer_Of_The_Woodlands still cheaper for you guys, those DLCs rarely get discount, and when it does, its pretty meagre. Its nice to get New content, but my good they are getting expensive with every release, and Paradox alredy looks like taking EA Path
@@darthplayer5333 maybe maybe not. at least I don't think it's as bad as what EA is doing. it's pretty ridiculous what EA thinks is appropriate to charge for non-existent additions to the game or just cosmetic additions. + EA doesn't listen to complaints from players. At least for now, Paradox occasionally makes changes and improvements if we demand enough. but no matter what, this DLC got me hooked. At least for now. hopefully in the future as well. and have a good day and let's hope that the prices will remain reasonable in the future, etc. have a good day !
Hi Bitter steel bro im new to the game 50 hours in i wanted to ask a crucial thing which i think wuill help me become a bteer player that when you start a new nation or any nation how would you know what to do like what focuses to pick what researches to do who to attack first? please bro guide me whenever i want to play i start a nation but am unable to do anything because i dont know who to attack what focuses to pick? when you were a new player how did you figure it out?
Ecstatic at the inclusion of Böhmen-Mahren, directly annexing Bohemia always irked me in the base game Edit: I take it back, RK Ukraine has Crimea and Odessa, Paradox needs to go
Something I was hoping for is an insanity mechanic for the mustache man similar to Stalin's paranoia, Schmitler was already crazy, but he starts descending into further madness after losing to the RAF on the battle of london, making questionable decisions, purging generals like Rommel in 1944... it was a lost opportunity
Thank God there's no stupid random paranoia system for germany. It's stupid enough that you can have zhukov be accused in Stalin's paranoia system at the same time as say your general you write it in Spain or your chief of army. Basically forcing you to eat the political power loss by not choosing anyone to get purged.
I think the issue is that when a player gets to that point in the timeline, they've already won the war basically and if they're playing against an AI Germany then why would you want to further nerf an already weak AI
@@anton33779 idk why thay would be good for a winning germany, in my mind, insanity would mean loss of stability, war support, pp gain, hitler shooting good generals due to paranoia, good generals defecting to other countries and a possible civil war. Insanity wouldn't be something good, but entirely bad, and the only way to get rid of is by getting rid of mustache man. I get the point of the bad AI, but the AI is bad even on elite difficulty
@@MiniSugus It would also be reasonable to let us that have paid for these dlcs (and every other for that matter) have at the very least two nice discounts on the new DLCs that are coming out... They need to understand that if we wanted to we could have gotten every dlc pirated and still be able to play MP normally...
@@henrycastle6584 it would be nice yes but I'm not going to complain that other are getting them for free because I bought it 6 years ago just as I don't complain when steam makes gives a game for free or gives a huge discount. And they wouldn't keep doing content for the game if it wasn't profitable or if we would just pirate it anyway
1:59 That's not entirely true... During World War II, the United States imposed extensive price controls through the Office of Price Administration (OPA) to manage inflation and prevent wartime shortages. These controls, along with rationing, were somewhat successful in stabilizing prices during this period of extreme supply constraints. In this case, price controls worked because they were part of a broader system that included rationing, wage controls, and heavy government intervention.
Also, after World War II several European countries used price controls temporarily as part of broader stabilization policies to rebuild their economies. Price controls, combined with rationing and reconstruction efforts, helped stabilize markets that were in severe disarray in the aftermath of the war.
Price controls lead to shortages, by countering those shortages with rationing you essentially kneecap natural economic recovery by removing price signals. When prices are high that signals consumers to buy less and producers to make more which causes prices to reach their natural equilibrium. If you obscure this information with price controls you remove the incentive to invest in production causing recovery to take longer. Essentially it's the old government problem of "Be seen doing something even if it's wrong."
@@heavyartillery-qm5hu can confirm as I'm going to do the Kaiser when this DLC drops as it was my first major non historical path, I ever did all the way back in December of 2019
Agent 47 yapping about ze Germans
Bro did all the main and side mission and now he has time for talking about le alleman
Who knew Agent 47 likes Hoi4
No, no. It's Doctor Evil. Look at how he says "Special focuses"
@@Anders_Lund Doctor 47
W cut
After reading all the DD's so far I'm really excited for the DLC even after 5k hours in the game. Impressive feat, last time I was this excited to play a DLC was NSB.
Yeah it really looks like a NSB level dlc. Looking forward to it
Oh boi, sea lion is gonna be the JACKPOT. Complete autarky with the colonies and resources, seize their gold reserves.
Hitler Gambling all of Germany for even more Wealth and Power because He's the 1% that never gives up
Seizing gold reserves only works for countries in Europe
@@mrvoid2607 Yeah, but you only need the UKs gold, because you'll be getting the autarky resources from British Malay, Aus, canada, Raj, SA.
@@jamieedwards4475 i don't think you get much oil and chromium from the uk and colonies, you'll have to invade the Soviets as well. Perhaps even turkey
@@giulianopisciottano8302south Africa has a lot of Chromium and you get oil from Malaysia and DEI
There was a german saying portraying the economy of conquest: Right after first german tank arrives the German (national)Bank
auturky achived is not unrealistic, its essentially free trade but everything you want truly exists within your borders
its theorathically possible but impractical
Guess we don't need multiple reichskommissariat mods anymore.
But for some reason, paradox did not correct the borders of the eastern reichskommisariats (Osltand, Ukraine) in reality, their borders were completely different. And it also remains to be hoped that they have fixed the historical section of Yugoslavia
@@zincha2762 What do you mean by "the historical section of Yugoslavia"? what did they do wrong? itd be nice if youd let me know since im planning on making a mod fixing all historical issues with the Götterdämmerung DLC
@@guyfromgermany I mean the formation of the independent state of Croatia, and the annexation of Serbia by Germany. In a normal game, AI never does this
I sure hope German AI won't screw up the MEFO bill management
喔，AI ，當然不會，不管怎麼樣都會爛掉
To be honnest even if it does, I think paradox would quicky find out that some changes are needed
@@otsokoskela7839 and those changes will break other part of the game... again...
I mean it would be historically accurate
@@Lady_Amelia-Eloise Not really? The Mefo Bills was a debt that was promised to be paid eventually. This system forces you to have to pay for it while using it. That is not accurate. Steel said it himself. It was a debt that was promised to be paid (eventually) and they constantly extended the deadline for the payment. This new system does not represent that well. The bonuses are also not worth the cost at all. Why would I care about the AI's intel on me? They can't do much with it, unlike players
Next DLC will just give the player the Millennium Dawn economy
So this means that the AI Soviet Union has an actual chance to fight back without player input. Finally something different will happen.
wdym?
@@aotmoments7410 soviet ai seems to lose very often
@@crunch.dot.73are we playing the same game? In my games Germany never seems to go past Belarus. It kind of ruins everything.
So essentially the war ends up at 2 different extremes, either the Soviets are unable to push Germany out of Russia or even capitulate. Or Germany isn't able to get a foot into the country @a.b3203
@@a.b3203 I have seen the soviet ai get stalled by estonia
Honestly my favourite part of this dev diary is the ability for contested cores, and have multiple focuses be done simultaneously.
i hope that they dont forget about the decision the netherlands can do where you can prepare the evacuation of the gold reserves.
also looking at the requierments for autarky. it doesnt look too bad. the steel is doable with just france mainland, same goes for aluminium. Oil is doable just by subjugating romania and letting them do their oil focuses. rubber 'just' requires 20 refineries with 39 tech (if the +2 rubber from refineries stays in the tech tree). tungsten is the hardest as you have to go out of your way to conquer in an 'unhistorical' way. ie conquer sweden, as its relatively easy. chromium is a bit easier if you are able to ask for northern macedon, otherwise, taking sweden should suffice as well
Bro i first thought that it was up to 100% consumer goods PERIOD. Didnt notice the "factor" afterwards, otherwise it'd be brutal
Same, that was definitely a relief
Still not good though
Imagine someone adds a modded focus tree based on Wolfenstein where they added Deathsead & Frau Engel to the Inner Circle with special wunderprojekts
Wait did I see that right? Did anyone else notice Germany in black? It looks like that maybe all of their cores. It looks like you can core Scandinavia.
Sweden and Norway, i'd say maybe... but Finland? Bro, the Russian language is closer to German than Finnish is.
@@YiannissB. same could be said of the Baltic countries and England but who knows. They could add some more for flavor.
Probably großdeutschland
I really hope they have a way for you to get a lot of cores and form the Greater Germanic Reich. Doesn’t seem like something they added though
i went to the dev diary to get a better look and the country name is the "Greater Germanic Reich" why finland is there instead of norway is beyond me
This is either going to be a complete headache or a surprising change that makes Germany more interesting beyond pulling a monarchy card
I wonder if playing as Germany will actually feel different. After all at this point capping all nations up till USSR can be done quickly.
I'm back for the bald explanation of the new dlc
Damn, TNO mechanics dlc
Paradox be like: “we heard you wanted a TNO that actually felt like hoi4”
17:50 Ok. It does sound complicated. HOWEVER That is FANTASTIC for many nations if they intend to add it. Nations like Poland who had a "contested" government all the way into the 90s with the Soviet Polish state actually owning Poland and the Government in Exile still in London. Basically most of the Iron Curtin falls under this "Contested government" idea. They could do great things with that!
BTW what I was thinking was soviets have a way to set up Soviet Poland as a nation similar to a Reichskommisariat with the Soviets able to have a decision to create it as basically a puppet government but "Poland" still exists as a contested Government-in-Exile.
Sounds like such a cool set of mechanics.
Also based Bittersteel knowing price controls are a lesson in futility.
He is a smart guy
Price controls were in the Code of Hammurabi. They failed.
8:37
i think Army/Navy/Airforce Foci should also run on a variant of this, that when you hire a chief of Army, he automatically progresses your army branch, not as fast as if you did select the focus yourself, but let's say half as fast (so a 70 day focus would take 140 instead), which lets you (slowly) advance through your army tree while focusing on other things (or slightly accelerating your army progress as it could add-up if you end up selecting the same focus as your Chief of staff)
this lightens the load for the player between the various branches, but also represent the army working on their projects to improve and prepare for the next war, gives more chances to benefit from some of the army bonuses as for example you're france, you usually never end up going through the navy focuses, so never play with the selection between "Rushing the Richelieus" or "Rushing the Joffre" to get a pair of 1940 BBs or a 1940 CV "fast" (or at least faster than building it without the focus help)
what about exclusive/diverging branches? well the thing could be that each Chief of Staff has preferences depending on their advisorial role, so an army maneuver advisor would focus going down the foci that gives templates and bonuses for tanks, mechs and mots for example
What focus tree do you think gets reworked next? Japan, USA, or UK/France? My guess, Japan. And we will get some focus trees for Philippines and Thailand, maybe Vietnam, and maybe Taiwan as a hidden tree? Would be cool to see an alt history where the Philippines stays with the USA after the war and becomes a state.
Yeah. Japan is probably next with some South East Asian countries. Man the guns is not integrated into the game yet so I don't think a USA/UK rework is coming for some time
Most likely Japan next, based on what they did integrate from old DLCs to the base game. Germany and Japan old trees belong to those.
I like the new Economy of Conquest system, that being said, unless endgame sim speed issue is somewhat mitigated by improved AI, I don't see myself crossing the Atlantic to finish America off, let alone marching across Eurasian Steppes. I think most player would probably call it a win when economic Autarky is established.
13:57 Don't see yourself using it? Good, now there's gonna be an achievement for that.
4:35 if you can capture gold reserves does this also means government can exfiltrate their gold to colonies or friendly nations, like how Belgium lost their gold between I think Dakar and Tombouctou because of some train operator pulling the wrong switch.
Also it's kinda weird to have a crossing the Atlantic focus, as you can just use Goëring as a carrier base, maybe it's for those time where you shoot him with a canon into Britain, who can tell.
I’m very excited about the dlc and I can’t wait to play. The fact remains that the allies can be defeated in one year making most of the tree flavor. Paratroopers can land when you reload a save and the ai plains get reshuffled. The ai doesn’t put their ships up when a country is guaranteed and declared on. They need to fix some holes or there will be some funny videos day one. There is also a work around to naval invade when you have military access. I don’t care if they patch it, but if they don’t a lot of these changes are role play features
Peacfull/low tension germany will become even better with this update.
It appears that Fascist Germany has options for diplomacy instead of military bullying. Interesting how diplo-fascist with sane economy will turn out. Interesting variant on the current democratic Germany - turn the Soviets into the bad guys.
I feel like they kinda took or were inspired by Kaiserredux mechanic of annexing or releasing a puppet regime
i love this new economic system for Germany. The Autarky path is the historical path and it makes total sense. Germany's economy faltered at the end of the war and was one of the main reasons as to why they lost. I think it will also be very good for balancing how strong Germany will now be with the new AI changes as well, because at some point Germany's economy will falter and that will give you the opportunity to push back against them when their economy starts to suffer
AI Germany needs to remain a serious threat, I hope it can handle the new systems.
I love these changes. I hope in the Wirtschaftswunder focus tree you puppets resources count as your own.
I don't think they do
Its written that they count if you look closely.
It says either you own them or a subject owns them
0:20 ummm dont you mean ponzi scheme????? 🤓
Paradox should add Goring achievements for Bitt3r.
Hopefully Japan can get a rework similar to this as they have had no historical tree reworks and it shows.
Japan will have navy - land - airforces power strugle… so it can be interesting when we getbthe Japan DLC…
I have always hated that countrys like Canada surrenders when uk does.
Does 100% consumer goods factor mean that your consumer goods are doubled or does is it literally give you 100% consumer goods so that you can't use a single factory?
Doubled, so ob war eco you got 40 instead of 20
The thing about that debuff for the MEFO Bills (the worst one, that is) is that additional consumer goods modifier added on top of the 100% CGFF is that it's not CGFF... it's a modifier in lieu of how these consumer goods modifiers used to work where it's flat out added on top of the law, i.e. for Civilian Economy it goes from 35% consumer goods to 45% consumer goods, rather than 10% of 35% (so 3.5%) being added. So if you had Civ Economy with the worst MEFO Bills modifier, you'd be shilling 90% of your economy to the consumer gods, and even with Total Mob it'd go to 40%, not counting other potential modifiers. So yeah, it can easily get extremely nasty.
Another thing to note is that Hess and Bormann, the only two guys to give you PP gain in the Inner Circle, are immediately mutually exclusive. This does make sense to some degree, as they both fulfilled the same role within Nazi society, and Hess took his fateful flight to Britain in part because he felt sidelined (because of favor shifting to Bormann) and powerless to prevent a two-front war that would inevitably destroy Germany. The choice to make them instantly mutually exclusive was likely to prevent two men from essentially occupying the same position at the same time, although historically Hitler initially favored Hess until he stopped being useful after the outbreak of war.
Also, I wonder if the contested ownership mechanic may also apply to factions of the Spanish Civil War, since most of them claimed rightful leadership of Spain. That, and it'd prevent things like Carlist Spain capitulating after only losing two states regardless of what they've conquered in the meantime. On the other hand, it'd make Spain much more of a pain than it is now.
Ha - there should be actually an event/decision for Poland "Evacuate Gold Reserves", which will render "Seize Gold Reserves" option for Germany unavailable against Poland, if taken by Poland. It should happen on historical, as the actual story of Polish gold reserves getting evacuated in 1939 is pretty epic.
If you zoom in on the screenshot of all the Reichkommissariats on the map you'll notice Germany has a new name 'Greater Germanic' rather than 'Greater German', I'm not sure if it's a new formable or just a cosmetic name but it's there.
guys i think agent 47 doesn’t like Göring
If they don't increase pp, this is the waist of pp.
I think the focuses around invading the US got added, because gameplaywise, if they join the allies, you will have some serious issues attempting to invade them. Historically it makes absolutely no sense, the nazis never wanted to invade the US and only some pre-war newspaper propaganda in the US even talked about this. Gameplaywise it absolutely makes sense. And in this case, unless they rework how peacing out an entire faction works, this is the only solution.
Love you Bittersteel but would love you to get more than 2 background songs for your vids.
The Ressources needed for „Autarky Achieved“ don’t seem that crazy. Chromium in the Balkans, Aluminum in France, Oil in Romania.
I think you should be able to do the Focus before Barbarossa.
Which is far from realistic since Barbarossa happened because Germany needed those resources to keep with the war effort against Britain
Those special puppets are going to be a game changer as Germany then doesn’t have to commit like half a million manpower to man garrisons
Im loving this dlc
I was fully expect the German rework to just do what the Italian alt fascist tree did and just give you like Goering and Himmler but it's really cool to see you can get multiple different interesting leaders for fascist germany
So.....Bittersteel whens the Goring guide?
The contested control is such a good thing because if you play as Soviet Union you could lose cores because Germany wanted reichsconisariat
wait why do i have the feeling that the path of going monarchist or democracy is going to be so broken after this dlc
I hope they redo and add some states and make them more accurate....
There are so many mods that go into that direction, why not Paradox.
Will contested ownership make it so that in peace deals you can’t take occupied land from countries? For example if you invade German occupied poland and then it’s up for grabs in the peace deal.
Hello, I am a huge fan. I just want to make you know scenario Berlin is in steam and I actually want to see you play it
I like the option for local recruiting the leaders for attempting to make less rascist German play.
im very excited for this
when i saw the bonuses i almost choked oh BOI germany is going to be played on easy mod till the next update and some old focus trees are remade
This DLC is looking like it will be great!
BUT!
Being that it's introducing quite a few new mechanics, it's gonna have bugs galore.😒
I don't like the MEFO bills, +10% military factory construction speed literally means nothing because most players build a lot of civilian factories early game to greed the economy, and only start building millies around 1938, and the 10% consumer goods and dockyard building speed doesn't mean anything either. It would be cool if you had a decision that turns on MEFO bills, so that you could turn them on after you have already build the civilian factories you need, and where the millie construction speed modified (which is insignificant by the way) is needed. I get that it's more "realistic" but germany has always been the "tutorial" nation for new players and the first nation they play, playing germany is simple, you build your economy, build an army, conquer the world, playing germany is relaxing in a weird way. With this I think it will make it a bit less enjoyable because of all the micromanaging.
Germany has always been in a kind of unique situation with MEFO where it builds mills and get's it's civs from it's focus tree and eating it's neighbors with it's focus tree.
Part of the typical strategy is use MEFO to build mills to make guns to race down the Anschluss to get Austria's civs because they would get a handful from their generic focus tree.
That strategy is now entirely in the bin considering Austria is getting a full tree and MEFO has been changed into a micromanage mechanic.
My guts saying that this DLC would not replacing the old German focuses in the base game as the previous DLCs has done to Italians and Russians. 1) it would removing 3 paths for one, and after they integrating previous DLCs into base game it's a net loss for both player and Paradox. 2) A lot of mechanics seems to be tied together to each countries in this DLCs so unless they giving historical Austria and Hungary for free it's a low chance to giving the Germany as well. 3) I'm agree that the old German Focuses is essentialy a tutorial for new players because it's a very easy focus albeit a bland one. It seems that Paradox also agree on this on top of the "pay for more flavour" strategy.
@@shironee_2384if you don't own the new DLC you get the whole historical rework and the new mechanics in this DD and the alt history remains unchanged from WTT. If you own the DLC you get the new alt history focus trees for Germany. The special projects mechanic and the Austria and Hungary tree
i guess germany is going from one of the best beginner nations to one of the hardest to play as
I wonder how they'll handle Hess going on vacation in Scotland if you put him in the Inner Circle?
he has to use his PTO
I believe he gets shackled to his chair at his capstone focus.
Is that going to be a dlc or a free update?
upgraded germany Is Free
The historical content for Germany that this DLC is showing will be for free but you will have to pay for the Alternate History content and everything else
Historical… free… alt history DLC… for Germany. For Hungary… everything is DLC. For the resonoi the countries. We don`t know yet.
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This feels way too micro you're gonna have to do now, I don't if it's gonna be a good idea to still have Germany as a choice for new players.
Finally. We don’t need RK+ anymore.
so will they integrate the colorured puppets mod then? they should
When will the update come out
My only wish is those DCLCs could be more cheap, here they cost like US$70 each
Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass 1 36,99€ "Götterdämmerung" + "Graveyard of Empires" + "Prototype Vehicles" + "Ride of the Valkyries Music" of course it would be nice if the DLCs were cheaper, but in that case Paradox might become like EA or Ubisoft and release the "same" game again and again every couple of years with only a few changes and improvements. + "same" DLCs again.
@@Seer_Of_The_Woodlands still cheaper for you guys, those DLCs rarely get discount, and when it does, its pretty meagre.
Its nice to get New content, but my good they are getting expensive with every release, and Paradox alredy looks like taking EA Path
@@darthplayer5333 maybe maybe not. at least I don't think it's as bad as what EA is doing. it's pretty ridiculous what EA thinks is appropriate to charge for non-existent additions to the game or just cosmetic additions. + EA doesn't listen to complaints from players. At least for now, Paradox occasionally makes changes and improvements if we demand enough. but no matter what, this DLC got me hooked. At least for now. hopefully in the future as well. and have a good day and let's hope that the prices will remain reasonable in the future, etc. have a good day !
@@darthplayer5333 just pirate them bro if you cant afford them, no shame in that
That is NOT what I imagined you’d look like.
Is MEFO changes would be in without dlc?
Yes. Everything in this dev diary is available without DLC.
@@aidenbooksmith2351 Thanks for info, i just wasnt sure
管轄總督區域重製 !! 簡單說就是不會像之前直接造出魁儡政府，而是更複雜一點、有抵抗有管理問題的政權
算是提前成立小型魁儡國，還沒有核心的魁儡國，
老實講，本來這能力就可有可無的，很多人都沒處理就丟著不管，當作一般領土攻佔，除了要少點人力去佔領，也沒有甚麼差吧
Hi Bitter steel bro
im new to the game 50 hours in i wanted to ask a crucial thing which i think wuill help me become a bteer player
that when you start a new nation or any nation how would you know what to do like what focuses to pick what researches to do who to attack first?
please bro guide me
whenever i want to play i start a nation but am unable to do anything because i dont know who to attack what focuses to pick?
when you were a new player how did you figure it out?
Lets go!!!!
So, would this only affect a player who has the DLC?
This should be for anyone
@@Bitt3rSteel
This will be an interesting time for me to get HoI4.
納粹派對!! 當然，把事情搞得很複雜，當然會變得好玩 ! 不過，這不就是內閣嗎??
SERIOUSLY, WHATS THIS MANS PROBLEM WITH GÖRING IVE BEEN SEEING HIM SHIT ON GÖRING FOR SO LONG BUT WHYY
Ecstatic at the inclusion of Böhmen-Mahren, directly annexing Bohemia always irked me in the base game
Edit: I take it back, RK Ukraine has Crimea and Odessa, Paradox needs to go
Boi, seems like if you can successfully Sea-lion or push back the soviets to Urals, your economy is as big as yanks!
Something I was hoping for is an insanity mechanic for the mustache man similar to Stalin's paranoia, Schmitler was already crazy, but he starts descending into further madness after losing to the RAF on the battle of london, making questionable decisions, purging generals like Rommel in 1944... it was a lost opportunity
Thank God there's no stupid random paranoia system for germany. It's stupid enough that you can have zhukov be accused in Stalin's paranoia system at the same time as say your general you write it in Spain or your chief of army. Basically forcing you to eat the political power loss by not choosing anyone to get purged.
I think the issue is that when a player gets to that point in the timeline, they've already won the war basically and if they're playing against an AI Germany then why would you want to further nerf an already weak AI
Well you can't really do anything against it and it would just give more power to a winning Germany and make a losing Germany worse
@@anton33779 idk why thay would be good for a winning germany, in my mind, insanity would mean loss of stability, war support, pp gain, hitler shooting good generals due to paranoia, good generals defecting to other countries and a possible civil war. Insanity wouldn't be something good, but entirely bad, and the only way to get rid of is by getting rid of mustache man. I get the point of the bad AI, but the AI is bad even on elite difficulty
He wasn't crazy, he was much more Napoleon than Stalin.
The only thing left, not having its dlc, is home of the free. USA.
Man the guns?
@@doctorwhat779 oh.
Japan
@@mickethegoblin7167 waking the tiger.
Why is there no kommisariat for france?
Fudge, this top tierr redditer posting about something he hates and seethe about.
Glad for the update, wish UA-cam didn't recommend this channel
I respect that
My brother in trolling, you clicked on the video.
This whole new mefo thing feels copy and pasted from the world ablaze economy (in a good way)
agent 47 play age of history 3 it came out less then 24hours ago
how about we get that DLC for free after they decided to give two major dlcs for free when we had to buy both ?
This is free
New historical german tree and basic level facility protects are free but other trees and expanded system requires dlc
It's been 7 and 6 years since the release of said DLCs. It's reasonable to make them free in order to make the reworks more organized
@@MiniSugus It would also be reasonable to let us that have paid for these dlcs (and every other for that matter) have at the very least two nice discounts on the new DLCs that are coming out... They need to understand that if we wanted to we could have gotten every dlc pirated and still be able to play MP normally...
@@henrycastle6584 it would be nice yes but I'm not going to complain that other are getting them for free because I bought it 6 years ago just as I don't complain when steam makes gives a game for free or gives a huge discount. And they wouldn't keep doing content for the game if it wasn't profitable or if we would just pirate it anyway
Bormann esports
Thankyou Agent 47
i love the egg in the vid
Insane MEFO nerf
MEFO itself is nerved, but Im pretty sure at the End especially after „achieving Autarky“ Germany will be stronger than before.
@@Hoi4withRobin maybe, I’ll be waiting for new Timelapse videos after the update 😆
Bitt3r, most based economist
Thats an extremely radical haircut youve got there my friend lol. Is that a zero?
MEFO 的效果也太爛了吧?? 我開局直接關掉算了，本來就沒有很好，現在更差勁，要他做甚麼??
1:59 That's not entirely true... During World War II, the United States imposed extensive price controls through the Office of Price Administration (OPA) to manage inflation and prevent wartime shortages. These controls, along with rationing, were somewhat successful in stabilizing prices during this period of extreme supply constraints. In this case, price controls worked because they were part of a broader system that included rationing, wage controls, and heavy government intervention.
Also, after World War II several European countries used price controls temporarily as part of broader stabilization policies to rebuild their economies. Price controls, combined with rationing and reconstruction efforts, helped stabilize markets that were in severe disarray in the aftermath of the war.
Price controls lead to shortages, by countering those shortages with rationing you essentially kneecap natural economic recovery by removing price signals.
When prices are high that signals consumers to buy less and producers to make more which causes prices to reach their natural equilibrium. If you obscure this information with price controls you remove the incentive to invest in production causing recovery to take longer.
Essentially it's the old government problem of "Be seen doing something even if it's wrong."
Mefo bills looks like trash now then
As it should be. Germany is op af right now
@@doctorwhat779 I mean it ain't really going to nerf them for the player lol. Early war can still be done.
@@SoldierGeneral64 I know but I only play SP so I believe it is good news for me
Bittersteel , why you dislike Goering so much ?
For the meme
Himmler was Bavarian, lol
IMO the US and Canada are too big to be just a single Reichskommissariat.
Funny man with mustache is just doing the European tradition of drawing line on map.
The dominion of North America is a thing for British alt.his you know?
Speer as the Führer 😮
喔，南美入侵國策? 感覺會很有趣? 但是美國參戰很晚，前期打得好，美國 加入同盟的機會都不會有
而且，後期也可以直接從加拿大入侵，南美也沒有很多資源...用處真的不大
0:20 Ponzi scheme
I wonder how the AI will use these mechanics because the AI isn't known to be the smartest with new mechanics
Well considering they're buffing the AI massively, revealed in the dev diary before this one, I'm sure it'll be fine lol
I think they will patch it regardless of how good or bad the AI does
But everyone will be playing as Germany
@@heavyartillery-qm5hu can confirm as I'm going to do the Kaiser when this DLC drops as it was my first major non historical path, I ever did all the way back in December of 2019
@@heavyartillery-qm5hu Germany is boring, hot take. The USA (whilst easy) has much more to manage and do