In our culture it's considered weird to not "try out" sex before you're married. But is that God's plan and design? Watch this video as Emily walks through this topic.
@@Grokford Yes, you can ask. But know that I'm not intimidated by your 'qualification'. I've some questions for you; Have you ever read and understood Romans 1:18 to 2:16? Do you have a relationship with Jesus? I'm not interested in your answers, just have a think about it.
@@goodviewfromuphere120 "Yes, you can ask. But know that I'm not intimidated by your 'qualification'." I don't need you to be, but I generally prefer to avoid the shock and awe of people saying that I've never read the Bible because I disagree with them. "I've some questions for you; Have you ever read and understood Romans 1:18 to 2:16?" Well that's an unusual grouping, but I believe so. Although I'm not sure of the relevance. "Do you have a relationship with Jesus?" Also a yes. "I'm not interested in your answers, just have a think about it." Well to be frank with you, I find it vaguely rude that you've chosen to respond to a question with some vague moral chastisement.
@goodviewfromuphere120 I hear what you're saying and agree with you with your original comment. There's lots of people who try and justify sin and such. Just keep remembering that one particular part of the Bible right in the beginning when Satan said "You will not surely die"...etc. Same deception, same tactics, just with new generations. Key phrase (part of a verse) is "do not be deceived." You can't go wrong with a higher standard.
@@DL_Burns That's an interesting point but I would say that it's strange to not consider the possibility that your perspective could have been brought about through deception. For centuries upon centuries Christians believed that slavery was ordained by God along with the inferiority of women. Not two hundred years ago major leaders of American Christianity believed that not only was sex risky but that all sex was immoral along with spices and sugar. From my perspective Purity culture is an extension of the same flawed tradition. And I think that it's especially insidious when cultural ideas of sexual purity become more important than the gospel.
Not spiritual or sexual advice but alot of religious people just speaking like parrots, I am 34 years of celibacy and i broke Jesus record so take it for what its worth, Ive come to the understanding that lusting is an unatural desire of wanting some thing that some one else has and not being contented with what you have , Jehovah commanded that a man go into a woman then make her his wife, in this modern world they do things in reverse the have a wedding then go into the woman, the bible clearly states the opposite hence the reason i am in this predicament. Ive come to the understanding that prostitution is fornication, the doctor told me i need to do a semen analysis, few days ago i did some STI screenings and i have never had sex in my life of barely if kiss some one, ive been that celibate not because i am scared of women rather of hellfire growing up and also catching diseases i dont eat or drink from people too. with that said so the doctor is causing me to sin my soul and go to help, they say i need prostate check but they must stick a finger up my behind but some how that is not sodomy.. explain me this.,.. its only okay for when a DOCTOR or and EXPERT with their white privilege to do things 😒 then its okay the nurse had to touch my penis and stick a swap up it why?? because the doctor ordered it????
Masturbation is the most common and simple solution, having sex is a more complex alternative. If you’re not willing to do either of those then maybe a hobby, exercise perhaps? The former Thai minister of health suggest that the youths play soccer to relieve their sexual frustration, but seeing as that idea has been mocked in every drama for the past decade I don’t think it worked very well.
Get married. But if you're single: Don't turn to masturbation, you'll stay single for a longer time because it takes your motivation away from meeting other women. But don't beat yourself up too much if you cave in once in a while either. Just get fit, go outside and date multiple women if you have to - there's nothing wrong with that until you start taking someone seriously and you're saving a lot of time. If you're still pent up at this point, take a part time job on top of your full time job. Having more money will make it so much easier to start a family down the road.
@@sexysputnik That is insane advice. Marriage is not something that you should be forcing yourself into, let alone for the stupid reason of unresolved horniness. If masturbating stops you from pursuing a relationship then you shouldn't be pursuing that relationship regardless.
Nonbeliever/former Christian here. I actually admire anyone that enters into marriage as a virgin. But even this is no guarantee of a problem-free, successful marriage. It takes effort from two people to make it work. You will experience pain and hardship in marriage, even if you are both virgins, Christian, and have all the right beliefs.
There’s also a much higher risk of problems, whether that be marrying too soon(because young Christians are horny) marrying someone your incompatible with or just the general fact that if you spend so long avoiding and often fearing sex, that doesn’t just go away when the vows are done. To say nothing of toxic assumptions about sex or sexual roles, women who wait to have sex until they’re married often suffer much higher rates of vaginismus, which is attributed to them having sex out of obligation rather than genuine desire.
i think with some people, they think it is a sin. i think there is a lot of regret, especially with women. physical love and relationships , are things most people that relate soul to love . the idea that someone used you, and did not care for you , must be soul crushing . it's a self punishing sin , that leaves you feeling, unloved and unwanted .
I have a question. Why do people still have sex? Sex is very gross, nasty, messy, and disgusting! I don't see how sex is a good thing. Why don't humans just remove sex from this world? Women can still get pregnant without sex (there's a lot of ways women can get pregnant without sex including artificial insemination). Sex does cause a lot of problems, so the world might be a much better place without it.
@@josephpchajek2685 That's not a good comparison. If someone is as sexually obsessed as you are then maybe sex is like heroin. But that's not how most people are.
@@rondrake77777 "Don't forget to confess the sin of premarital sex." Pre-marital sex is not a sin. "I had sex with my wife before our marital ceremony. I lost my virginity to her and am still married to her 8 years later" I understand that you regret this, but I don't see any inherent problem. "but I had to repent because all sex has to happen during the timeframe of marriage." No it doesn't. Who said that? Not the Bible. "Sex outside of marriage is one form of fornication. The other version of fornication is sex right before marriage." Well the word "fornication" is not used in modern Bible translations and for good reasons, the word has changed in meaning from when it was first used five _hundred_ years ago and it no longer matches what the actual text of the Bible said. Pre-marital sex is never prohibited in the Bible.
if they cannot contain maybe they should get a therapist?? rather than throwing themselves into marriage. If they can't handle abstaining from physical pleasures, it sounds like they need to work on the strength of their hearts first. Entering the marriage with strength and fortitude for life's different challenges. Marriage isn't all about sex.
@@goobertgoobert Isn't it amazing that your comment (verse) was able to expose other people's ignorance of the Bible and their ability to quote worldly ways so easily.
@John3.36 Prove it then, where is the scripture in the law of moses?? Show it or shut up. The laws of sex before marriage apply to virgin women and virgin women who are engaged to be married. Why? Because they are the property of their father. You clearly don't know the mosaic law. Get off of UA-cam and go study. I'll help you if you need it.
@@klyetruman7285 The Bible teaches that sex before marriage is immoral in a couple of different passages. One is 1 Corinthians 7:2, which says, “But since sexual immorality is occurring, each man should have sexual relations with his own wife, and each woman with her own husband.” In this verse, marriage is presented as the “cure” for sexual immorality. Sexual union within marriage, which is commended, is set against immorality, which is to be avoided. Thus, any sex outside of marriage is considered immoral. This would have to include premarital sex. Another verse that presents sex before marriage as immoral is Hebrews 13:4, “Marriage should be honored by all, and the marriage bed kept pure, for God will judge the adulterer and all the sexually immoral.” Here, we have both adultery and fornication contrasted with what happens in the marriage bed. Marriage (and sexual intercourse within marriage) is honorable; all other types of sexual activity are condemned as immoral and bring God’s judgment.
Wait tell me than me and my "wife" have been together for 10 years committed to eachother and our child. Whats the difference when ive seen marriages end withing the first 5 years.
Oh we arent married because of the legal nonsense. We should be allowed to be together without it being a sin when Christians get married, have sex and divorced in less time than me and her have had our family dog.
@@UmamiPapi The Bible doesn't necessitate marriage for sex though, that's a modern cultural notion. And he raises a valid point. Government documentation is extraneous, it can't be the thing that makes sex morally valid. So why should we condemn a committed long-term relationship and praise teenager marrying eachother?
As an atheist Jew who thinks premarital sex is a must to know that the couple is compatible and don't care what either religion says, I wonder how did I get here?
@@crazymountain777 I think when it comes to premarital sex its a bit too late, I'm married already. I do "sin" in some different areas, but for some reason that's not where god brought me. Don't get me wrong, I'm not one of those rebels who is trying to be "bad". I live according to my conscience, try to do good when I can. Not here to look for religious people to argue with either, to each their own. I'm just wondering why did UA-cam algorithm suggested this video for me.
@@crazymountain777 The idea that pre-marital sex is a sin is more of a cultural idea that an idea inherent to the Bible or the Christian faith. And there are so problems that come along with that. So while in theory I have no problem with someone getting married with no sexual experience, practically I really doubt that most people are doing so in a way that’s responsible or accounts for potential problems. Many young Christians do get married just for the social acceptability of the sex they’d like to be having anyways.
You focus on the wrong word. It's not sexual immorality that makes your case against premarital sex, but sexual greed. Greed is a much more solid notion than immorality, and implies anything you are drawn to out of an insatiable desire to have it. Then you have the third buzzword, impurity, which is a solid 10/10 unmistakable definition of whether you have done it or not. Of course, all of this means little to nothing as linguistic nuance gets utterly lost in translation. So if you really want to follow the word of God, you better start learning Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek, because ANY translation will be an interpretation of the translator, who without cultural competence (where cultural context can shift in as short as a few decades) can not have the innate understanding of the true meaning behind the words, the connotative meaning of the phrases... you know what? I'll just stop here instead of giving you a linguistics course. Words can carry additional meaning beyond their straight translation. And no amount of paralel texts will teach you the zeitgeist of a culture to capture the nuance of every single word. To genuinely adhere to the tenets of a religion, it is crucial to consider the cultural context that was present when the religious texts were originally written to understand the vernacular fully. That context is no longer possible to retrieve. All you can do is approximate it to the best of your capabilities, by studying the original language, and reading the original scripture, because even speaking about the imprecise nature of a translation in the language of a translation could be considered a form of the tu quoque fallacy. Academic rant over...
"You focus on the wrong word. It's not sexual immorality that makes your case against premarital sex, but sexual greed. Greed is a much more solid notion than immorality" That's very true, but it's also not what the text said. Sure Greed could cross over into sexuality, but that is just one type of sexual immorality among many. "Then you have the third buzzword, impurity, which is a solid 10/10 unmistakable definition of whether you have done it or not." Not necessarily, it's definitely a meaningless buzzword. But sometimes people can lose their "purity" just from extended time in the presence of the opposite sex. It's an amorphous turn meant to be used to enforce whatever arbitrary biases of the speaker. "Of course, all of this means little to nothing as linguistic nuance gets utterly lost in translation. So if you really want to follow the word of God, you better start learning Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek, because ANY translation will be an interpretation of the translator, who without cultural competence (where cultural context can shift in as short as a few decades) can not have the innate understanding of the true meaning behind the words, the connotative meaning of the phrases... yo u know what? I'll just stop here instead of giving you a linguistics course." Very true, but I'd also argue that there are many steps that people can take to improve accuracy of interpretation without learning several ancient languages.. It can be as simple as learning the parts of speech or as complicated as learning how translation works in an entirely separate language.. My studies in anthropology and linguistics certainly have helped me, but I've also spent a lot of time as an interpreter for unrelated languages and that's probably the biggest help to me when it comes to interpreting adjusting for difference in language. "Words can carry additional meaning beyond their straight translation. And no amount of paralel texts will teach you the zeitgeist of a culture to capture the nuance of every single word." Amen man, preachin' to the choir.
I agree that sexual self discipline is definitely a very important virtue. However, whether sex is god or bad in God's eye cannot depend on the approval of a bishop, priest, pastor or state officer. This is most obvious nowadays when the same people also approve same sex relationships. In the bible it was usually the brides father that did the wedding. And fornication is basically voluntarily changing sex partners.
There are major flaws in this teaching. She did not quote one Scripture at all. So she gave you the stock Christian answer. She should sit down and be quiet! She missed this by a long shot.
What have you said as a self proclaimed pastor except judging her and fingering here... You should be ashamed of yourself to bear that title.... Instead of you adding what she missed you're attacking which is completely no scripture reference of note
I very much like your videos Mr. Dowell, and I agree, she should sit and be quiet. But I didn't really see the flaw in her statements, she seems to be saying that sex outside of marriage is a sin; is it not? I'm curious which part of her position you disagree with?
@@arthursimango500 Scripture doesn’t have a lot of relevant commentary on specific UA-cam Videos or modern Christian politics. She’s making things up, that’s simply the reality.
NO IT'S A TOTALLY OBVIOUS FACT THAT PRE MARITAL SEX LITERALLY NEVER HAS OR WILL BE A SIN AT ALL SERIOUSLY PERIOD NO QUESTIONS ASKED AT ALL and to be TOTALLY honest i did do and will NOT like MOST baptist and pentecostal people AT ALL PERIOD
Thats not what porneia actually means. It means prostitute. Not to justify fornication, but we have to be accurate about the original language and historical context.
@@ApolloAceOfBass Well the short answer is that "fornication" is a mistranslation, the longer answer is that the translation was correct but English literally changed around it until it was wrong.
Here's the problem, one's interpretation of what sexual immorality is can be different from another persons. The bible says sexual immorality is wrong but does not specifically define what it is, man defined it. It can be a host of things. It could mean between two gay people, it could mean anal sex, it could mean a lot of things.
@@mattr.1887 I feel the sarcasm but it's valid. This is why so many different religions popped up. This is why I do not understand why some state that the bible is inerrant.
Wrong. The word sexual immorality in the Greek is covering all “sexual” sins outside the “marriage” bed. It’s not up for interpretation. Do your research and do your due diligence as scripture teaches you. This is why so many people are compromising things in the Bible because they lack understanding like you just proved. Sex outside of marriage is wrong period. But there is forgiveness but you have to recognize it.
That's actually bs. The Bible is quite straightforward about sexual immorality and defines it pretty clear: homosexuality (whether gay or lesbian), premarital sex, willful negation of procreation are morally wrong, ie. sinful. It's quite clear and if someone is defending different notions, they're either full of shit and/or uneducated. For example: why was Joseph so troubled with accepting Mary and the Scriptures spin the tale of dream and angel messengers (buttery butter as "angel" by itself means "messenger")? Because being pregnant before marriage was clear sign of premarital sex and it was big no-no in Israelite culture. Old Testament is clear about the fact that man laying with man (ie. having sex) is so bad that they're both basically dead already. St. Paul mocked Roman pagans by stating God gave them to their shameful lusts and women were drawn to women in unnatural way, men to men (Romans 1:26-27). And yes, there are people who try to play with the words and say that Paul used Greek word ἄρσενες in the meaning of "boys", not "men" - ie. Paul is condemning boy-man relations known in Greek culture - or that it have nothing to do with homosexuality at all but cult of Cybele (mother of gods and protectress of Rome), but it's all really sloppy scholarship as OT and NT as a whole are pretty consistent in absolute condemnation of any homosexual acts.
That's not entirely true, man did not define all of it. It specifically lists adultery and fornication as sins, as well as homosexuality and any form of lust. I don't know what version you're reading, but it's there, even if not spelled out to your liking. The Bible is inerrant, and the issue with people who think otherwise is that they're not informed enough to understand the consistency, and sometimes they're just looking for excuses to live the way they want even without realizing it. Sin is black and white, not grey, and it's our responsibility to apply the seemingly "vague" principles of the Bible to the different areas of our life. I don't know what you mean, there's only one religion that adheres to the Christian Bible which is Christianity. Muslims may worship the same god, but based on the claims of a man who came much later and the Koran. Maybe you're referring to different denominations of Christianity, in which case you're right that there are different interpretations of certain things, like baptism for example. There are certain grey areas of the Bible that Christians can agree to disagree over because they aren't as serious, but sin is not one of them. Sexual sin is laid out clearly enough for those willing to listen.
telling single people they can't have sex or masturbate is just stupid to me and just sets people up to fail, its either going to be one or the other its just to unrealistic and every sane Christian knows that,
True. Just like a lot of other sins, it's hard for we - as sinful humans - to resist, which is the whole reason why Jesus died on the cross so that we could be made righteous through his blood.
@petermulinzi1288 that we committed a serious sin ,immoral sexual sin for the sake of pleasure and lust.Becoming one in body and soul.Something sacred and preserved for after marriage live,between and man and a woman. Promiscuous lifestyle or various sexual engagements mean you unleash all your previous partners' demons onto the one you're having sex with. It's a sin,immoral, and wrong.How much your ever and justify it,you'll suffer the consequences. Sooner or later. You won't walk free until you repent,refrain yourself from doing it, and receive forgiveness.
@petermulinzi1288 sorry,fair enough.Guilt ,becoming more aware as one grow older,grow spiritual realizing what despicable sin you've committed in the eyes of the Lord.Apart from becoming one in soul and flesh with the other party,also,opening up to all the demons and bad spirits of all the previous sex partners that person had. Losing perspective on and of something that is meant to be sacred. Future trust issues Often thinking about the fact that your partner was not the first ,even who knows how many before,to share something sacred reserved for someone special. Out of love,not just. After many years of married life with a loving wive,l often tend to think about .Foolishly as it may seem. Personal emotions l experience, or,maybe not.Once one realizes how sacred and magic this deed actually means.
Jesus didn't up the standard. That a misreading of Mathew 5. The "you have heard it said" wasn't Jesus quoting the old testament but the scribes and Pharisees. And saying "but I say to you" wasn't a law but wisdom on how to become the type of person that would not commit these sins by dealing with the source attitude. The Greek word "a woman" often means "wife" so there is nothing wrong in being attracted to a single woman, that's not adultery anyway. The word "lust" or 'desire" is the same word used for covet in the Greek translation of the ten commandments"you shall not covet your neighbors wife" Just meaning Jesus wasn't raising the standard just clearing it from religious interpretations. And the law of Moses weren't actually laws, as in legislation,but wisdom..torah is the correct word. And that's what Jesus is doing giving wisdom on how to have righteousness beyond the scribes and Pharisees.
Paul - are you saying that none of the things that Moses stated were laws? I am just trying to be sure that I understand what you are saying, I don't want to misrepresent you.
@@honestplus1756 the ancient world knew nothing of LAWS as in legislation. What we call "law" or more correctly "Torah" are instructions and wisdom for the people of God in the covenant. So you don't need a specific command to know that sex is meant for marriage, wisdom teaches that. Wisdom brings order The Old Testament scholar John Walton has a number of videos on UA-cam explaining what Torah was.
@@MujahidOfTheRedwoods that was because it disrupted social order and the letter of the punishment wasn't always carried out...eg. King David's adultery and murder . Moses didn't create a legislation but legal saying to give wisdom example to administrators ..it was not intended as LAW.
Curious where the idea that sexual immorality means everything besides married sex comes from... In the New Testament, the word porneia (sexual immorality) seems to be connected to self-control, not to marital status. See ua-cam.com/video/z2L-UEANq4c/v-deo.html
Hello! The Bible does specifically address sex before marriage, because it says that fornication is a sin: Marriam-Webster definition: fornication. noun. "Sexual intercourse between persons who are not married..."
That's not the biblical definition of fornication! How about you learn the hebrew word and definition of fornication. Fornication is also sleeping with father or mother, sleeping with your own brother or sister, sex with animals, when a man has sex with another man, etc. Sex before marriage is a sin for virgin women! Why? Because virgins belong to their father's and a dowry is paid for her. Virgins must also prove that they didn't have sex before marriage by presenting a bloody sheet after the marriage is consummated. If blood is not found, she is to be put to death. That law is not for every woman. NOW, PROVE ME WRONG!
@@klyetruman7285 You're essentially right, but there is no "biblical definition of fornication" the word didn't exist. Translation should rely on creating accurate facsimiles of the original meaning, not on changing another language to fit.
@Grokford The context is key to understanding. Leviticus and deuteronomy never speak ill of sex before marriage, except in the context of a virgin or virgin woman promised to a man.
No. That's the reason why Jesus died on the cross; to make us righteous through his blood and get saved. We are born sinners and are incapable of keeping every single commandment. If you repent, understand and accept that you're unable to save yourself and the only way to be saved is through Jesus, you will be saved.
Matthew 5:27-28 explained correctly. Jesus was not 'upping' the standard. He was pointing out the standard that was there all along. A bad translation of this verse. In Greek, they don’t have a separate word for “wife” vs “woman”. They are the exact same word and only context can tell you which is which. The point Jesus is making is about adultery. Biblical adultery can only be committed when a married woman is involved. Therefore, the women mentioned here must be married. If she isn’t, then you simply can’t have the sin of adultery. It’s literally impossible. A more accurate translation from the Greek, "but I say to you that everyone who gazes intently at a [married] woman in order to covet her has already committed adultery with her in his heart." All of a sudden, the whole verse makes perfect sense. Jesus says that if you covet your neighbor’s wife, you’ve as good as committed adultery with her in your heart. The issue is coveting another man’s wife, not noticing an attractive woman. The Greek word Pros conveys intention. Jesus was talking about intentional, purposeful looking/staring here and that’s the first crucial point. Jesus is not talking about an accidental glance or catching a bit of flesh out of the corner of your eye. “lust” in that passage is the Greek word “ἐπιθυμῆσαι” (epithumeó). It means to show focused passion as it aptly builds on (Gk epi, “upon”) what a person truly yearns for; to “greatly desire to do or have something - ‘to long for, to desire very much‘
It can be Either One in a Married Couple! If one of them sneaks away to have Sex with someone else, that's adultery! For example... having sex with a fellow employee, before going home to their husband or wife.
exactly the thing is when you have sex with some one you need to stick with them and stand with them especially if the person gets pregnant because the orphan children is a plague to society thats why a marriage certificate and witnesses is to force accountability your word is your bond@@Grokford
@@AviatorDark Sex and commitment are entirely different things. We only set people up for failure when we tell them otherwise. Sex doesn't even morally obligate commitment. Obviously people are responsible for their children, but that has nothing to do with a marriage relationship. Marriage is a socio-legal contract that is primarily meant to protect the members of the couple. In periods where parental obligations were not recognized yes it also included protections for children but largely the two are unrelated.
@@Fatelvis2 Not quite, fornication did not imply pre-marital sex when it was first used in translation five centuries ago, that connotation grew out of cultural biases, which are closely linked to the loss of inheritance rights for bastards in Britain. The original Greek and Hebrew never made any mention of pre-marital sex. The addition of pre-marital sex to the understanding of the term "fornication" was quirk of socio-linguistic history. "Fornication" has not been used in new English translations of the Bible for the better part of a century. Instead translations tend to favor the more general "sexual immorality" which is closer to the original meaning of the text.
Sex is very much like a fire. Put in its proper spot, a fireplace (ie. marriage), it can warm your home and give light. But place it anywhere other than your fireplace it will burn your house down.
@@klamb9 “Fornication” is an archaic word that does not mean what it once did. It is not an accurate reflection of the meaning of text. The Bible never prohibits pre-marital sex; that is a cultural notion that was connected with moral terminology.
If everyone would follow this law of confining sexual expression to marriage it's undeniable that there would be a lot less problems in society, i.e. unwanted pregnancy, STDs, broken trust, etc. But above that, my belief is that those who wait until marriage are blessed with a heightened ability to feel the Spirit, and that's where the deeper blessings come from. All this being said, even those who have not kept this law can receive forgiveness and healing through the grace of Jesus Christ.
"If everyone would follow this law of confining sexual expression to marriage" That's not a law, the Bible never says that. "it's undeniable that there would be a lot less problems in society" I beg to differ. "i.e. unwanted pregnancy, STDs, broken trust, etc." I'll grant that there would be fewer STDs but that's about it. I dont think marriage makes inherently makes a pregnancy more wanted. And I really don't think that having sex or not having sex is going to make a major impact on how often people break trust, at least not directly. "But above that, my belief is that those who wait until marriage are blessed with a heightened ability to feel the Spirit, and that's where the deeper blessings come from." Sounds like hokum, not gonna lie. That's so vague I really don't think that you could prove that even if it were true.
logistically and mathematically not everyone can marry. also, not everyone is suited for marriage. yet, god hardwired all for sex, made it intensely pleasurable, and mentally and physically beneficial, not just for married couples, but for all. if one believes god loves all equally, why is god prejudiced against and why does god discriminate against the unmarried? there is absolutely nothing immoral about unmarried people having consensual sex. the term pre marital should not exist, for sex or anything else, for the reasons i cited above. while being married is indeed a life event it does not earn or grant special access to things unmarried people are restricted from. get over yourselves. you got married, you did not split the atom
then the theory god loves all is wrong, because god is prejudice against the unmarried. there are many strange things in the bible, and it was written when languages were evolving, translation was relatively new, etc... if you want me, and many others i assume, to believe unmarried people having consensual sex is a sin, someone needs to explain why. no just "read the bible." or, not just admit but truly understand, god is an evil psycho that plays favorites@@DrDoerk
@@DrDoerk I know that, its just absurd that it is a sin and it just makes God look more like a dictator then a just and righteous God that's what i don't like about it, With all the evil in the world it is ridiculous to me that he finds fornication a sin between two consenting adults,
@@JOHNNY92832 I would read the parable about the Potterer and the clay (I'm pretty sure that's what is called...it's something close to that). You are right, to our human pea sized minds it doesn't make since.... but don't you think that an all knowing and all loving God knows more than us? That's just something I recommend you ponder. We are just vases that God hand molded, who are we to tell God what is right and what is wrong?
A question which is not really clear here "Any sexual act outside a marriage between one man and one woman" So I personally could take that phase with 2 meaning. -Banning everything outside marriage. -Or it is banning sexual acts outside marriage for already married persons. It should be made clear here what do it actually refers to. And when a translation could get a bit double meaning we should take a bit of double check on the meaning of the original script.
If you don't like sex? Then you should probably explore asexuality and aromanticism and see if any of that resonates with you. If not, or you historically had a sex drive, then it might be worth exploring if you've had some medical shift recently or added some new medication. Anti-depressants are notorious for reducing sex drive. However how you should respond to that it up to you, sometime the better thing for you health is to keep your medication.
Answer: yes, you are stuck for life in a miserable situation. My wife decided she didn't like sex and that sex was not to be a feature of our marriage right up front. End-of-sexlife. My advice: do not marry someone whom you are not certain you are sexually compatible with.
You deceive yourself, it's quite the opposite. You still sin, but it is not forgiven if you don't place your faith in Christ. Being forgiven is the only route to Heaven and the only other eternal destination is Hell. God bless you.
Only according to the Christian god. According to Egyptian god, you Christians are in serious trouble, because you are not buried with an ankh. And when you go before Anubis he will be able to see through your lies.@@UmamiPapi
dude!!!!! "sexual immorality" can have different meanings!!!! you and I can interpret it differently. there is no set definition for sexual morality, it can mean cheating on your partner, rape or as small as having lust full desires
Biblically sex is marriage so the idea of premarital sex doesn't exist. With that said, sex without the intent of marriage or complete marriage can be classified as a form of sin.
Brother that point is so off kilter i cant even Lol Jesus was not a normal man... he was God in human form so he had no reason (or want) to be married. also, could you imagine being a girl and being married to the literal creator of the universe?
if you believe that Jesus is a mere human, so you shouldn't follow him. Christianity isn't about a guy who was really smart and good and so we should listen to him to live better lives. Jesus claimed to be God, he's either a madman, or a lier or he's really God. If you do believe he's God, so he's all knowing, and knows all outcomes of anything because he created time too. In this case you better study more about him and try to understand his will for you, because it's the right thing to do, it doesn't matter if it makes your life better or worse. If you once found a wallet and returned to the owner instead of taking to you, you deep down know doing what is right is better than doing what is beneficial for you.
@@Grokford You should actually read the Bible. The meaning of FORNICATION is consensual sexual intercourse between two persons not married to each other. This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. 17For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. 18But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law. 19Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, 20Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, 21Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, AND SUCH LIKE: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.(that means you will go to hell)
Thanks for your comment. This is a common question that I think is very important to think about. When comparing this idea of "test driving a car" to a person, we are implying that the main purpose they have in our lives is to please us. Therefore, if they don't "perform well" then they aren't worth loving. That is frankly a very wrong and evil way to view someone who is created in the image of God. The view God gives us of sex, is that it's purpose is not to just "please me", it's purpose is for me to serve and love my spouse inside the context of marriage. I hope you can see that this "test driving" mentality is not the selfless, unconditional love God calls us to in marriage. This is why saving sex for marriage is so important, because once you've committed your life to someone before God (in marriage), then you will love them until "death due us part" no matter how they "perform" sexually or otherwise. And the same is true for you. They will love you until "death due us part" in all of your imperfections and shortcomings, which we all have plenty of. People aren't made to be "test driven." This is one reason why God's design for marriage and sex is so much better than what our culture is trying to sell. I hope this helps.
@@STINTTBF I was being facetious because that's the only way to react to such an inane viewpoint. You assume a god without having a shred of evidence, presumably because of indoctrination, and yet have the audacity to state my viewpoint is "very wrong and evil". If you want to read of vain, vile, genocidal and sadistic, perverted acts you should read your Bible because your claimed god is all of those and more. I'd be interested on why your god places animal welfare above incest and child rape I''ll give you just one example why a "road test" is important. I've worked overseas for many years and had a Muslim girlfriend for some time I was intimate with. Unfortunately, she'd been subjected to FGM involving removal of the inner labia and clitoris and so tragically was able to experience little sexual pleasure other than closeness. The question of marriage was not an issue because her parents had arranged that when she was six to her first cousin but what is that were not the case? I like to give pleasure and not being able to made what we did feel unfulfilling so your assumption " it's purpose is not to just "please me"" is the polar opposite of my personality. Of course, that road test works both ways. Your upbringing has eliminated all objectivity you may otherwise have used to make judgments regarding not only the lives of others but also your own and all because you believe fairy tales about a magical sky daddy and a man who handed out fish sandwiches. That's fine if that's as far as it gets but you people interfere and affect the lives of others and the Roe v Wade verdict and its implications are the perfect example of that. I personally believe that abortion is wrong in most cases but you god botherers want to enforce your views in those that want nothing to do with your superstitious beliefs.
@@STINTTBF No. We don't have cars for pleasure, we have cars for functionality. Sex is a major part of a marriage, and sexual compatibility is one of the primary causes of divorce. Waiting to have sex until you're in a lifelong commitment with someone is, at best, a risk, and it's irresponsible to ignore that. Worse is the culture of shame that prevents people from even talking about sex and condemns them for even wanting it. It is not selfish or ill-intentioned to want to be with someone who is sexually compatible, framing it that way is dishonest and destructive. If someone wants to wait to have sex until they're married then more power to them, but if they're not able to at least talk about it then they're being careless. Moreover, even this video acknowledges that there is no biblical precedent for the idea that pre-marital sex is immoral. No verse or passage ever says that. Repeating false ideas of what "God says" is at best irresponsible, more likely it is actively harmful.
When it comes to marriage, people SHOULD be "test driven". You don't just marry some random person; you spend time getting to know them first. Not saying you should have sex or date number 1 or even date number 300. But at some point, it's supposed to happen. If it happens before the legal marriage ceremony, I'm not convinced that this is some irreparable tragedy in every single instance.
Masturbation is in violation to none of God's commandment. Anyone who claims it is sin teaches human bids, and is a heretic. And Matthew 5:27-28 is one of the worst misused verses in the bible. These verses are horribly taken out of context. First of all: OF COURSE adultery can only be commited as long as there is a marriage included in the situation. If you read the bible in its context you will understand that Jesus adressed the unallowed lusting for another man's wife. Nothing else. It's about intentional desire to get what is forbidden according to the law. A single man lusting for(wanting to get) a single woman is of course not sin. How could otherwise a man even search for a wife? God's word always needs to be read in its context!
A young man and a lady escape into the desert when their village is ambushed by a neighbouring village. All their relatives are killed and they are the only ones who have remained. Whilst in the desert, they agree to be married in order to propagate their lineage. Q. Should we say they were not married even in God's eyes just because there was no human witness around? If so, who witnessed Cain's marriage in the bible? If you say sex before marriage is a sin, then also be kind enough to define what marriage is according to the bible as well rather than according to the customs and fear burdened traditions of men.
The Bible seems to describe marriage according to the customs of the time. Solomon is described as having both wives and concubines, recognizing a social difference. But it’s not a great concern because the Bible never prohibited pre-marital sex.
I would argue It's a sin not to have sex before marrage. Also, never enter into a lifetime monogamous relationship with someone with even knowing if you're sexually compatible. God want you to be happy.
There is nothing in the Bible that supports your claim about sex before marriage, there is also nothing in the Bible that tells us that God wants us to be happy. True joy is only found in the Lord Jesus Christ, and I would kindly encourage you to repent and put your faith in Him. I promise you will experience true joy, much better than temporary 'happiness'
I have always believed that sex-before-marriage was sinful. So I fought the good fight to remain a virgin prior to marriage. To this day I consider this the biggest mistake of my life given what happened. I had no clue that I was making a life-long commitment to someone who was 100% sexually incompatible with me.
God wants us to glorify his name here on earth by our words and actions. This will lead to discomfort at times. It’s not about making ourselves happy it’s about pleasing God.
@@connordiem2834 “For I know the plans I have for you,” declares the Lord, “plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future.” Jeremiah 29:11 NIV This sounds like a general statement that God seeks our benefit in some sense. And I would say that there is no scripture supporting the idea that pre-marital sex is a sin. That is a cultural notion more than anything.
Romans 3:23 Bible For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, Romans 6:23 Bible For the wages of sin is death but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord Romans 5:8 Bible But God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. Romans 10:13 Bible For “everyone who calls on the name of the Lord (Jesus) will be saved.”
“Then neither do I condemn you,"Jesus declared. “Go now and leave your life of sin.” - John 8:11 "No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God’s seed remains in them; they cannot go on sinning, because they have been born of God." - 1 John 3:9 "For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear." - 2 Timothy 4:3
@@UmamiPapi What sin is that? I'm not actually sexually active, so it's not that I can't control myself or that I'm some sort of sex addict, it just doesn't seem right to me that people should be shamed for something the Bible never condemns.
Here are some things taught from the pulpit: now where are these: Denomination? Where is this? Marriage license? Where is this? Tithes? Where is this? OT? PASTOR being a j o b ? This is not in the new testament: NT. Sun day? We are now part of His Family: where's church membership? Don't see this either. The Earth is the Lord's n the Fullness there Of: now why am I told to give 10% He owns it All what does He need 10% for? Where does it say: always obey the gov: it does not. The 10 Comments covers it all: any questions? College Degree? Where is this is this, oh man's doing? Big huge buildings? That's a numbers game this has nothing to do with The Creator. Pastors should work in the real world, not sit in an office all day. They really have no idea how the world works. All you get to do is listen to people grip n complain bout nothing. He will listen n give the same answer that he gave the last person he sat with. 501(c)3? Where's this? Not in there. Our Father is not a business, this is what man has turned it into, same as the old days. Give me your money! Sound familiar? TBN is show business, false teachers take your pic? Where is I must have children n a wife, that is how it works most of the time, but, not for all. Sunday school? Where is this? Find it not? Decon board: where's this? The modern day church is no more than a business, people being asked to give: gime gime, gime? His True Church is here, everyday people, the scope n structure of what we have been taught is wrong. Do you Believe in what ya say? Where are the Scriptures that speaks of what IV commented?
None of those said premarital heterosexual sex is a sin. People try to lump premarital heterosexual sex with sexual immorality but it's not the bible is specific what sexual immorality is and premarital sex is not one of them.
@@DrDoerk It says sexual immorality, fornication is not mentioned as part of male and female sex fornication is about mixing with other nations and such.
Many faithful servants of the Lord had multiple concubines/girlfriends to go into, including Priests. God gave them many beautiful women to delight in. (Abraham, King David and many more). Please check the bible and do not simply listen to what man says.
King David also murdered a man. Just because God is using you for his greater glory doesn't mean your not human. Everyone human in the Bible except Jesus sinned and that doesn't mean its ok, it just means they were flawed like we are.
Remember, the Lord approved having additional wives/women. Kings were not allowed to have too many wives - "“And he shall not acquire many wives for himself, lest his heart turn away, nor shall he acquire for himself excessive silver and gold.” Deuteronomy 17:17"@@pickles8098
So what is the alternative for married men when their wives decide to stop having sex like so many married men report, you're taught in the church to wait till marriage for 6:00, only to end up being more celibate than you were when you were single SMH
If those Men cannot have another Women then I guess they can fondle the wife while the wife plays with something unspeakable. Aleast that's one solution.
Fornication is sexual immorality which is idolatry Isaiah 57 You have made your bed on a high and lofty hill; there you went up to offer your sacrifices. 8 Behind your doors and your doorposts you have put your pagan symbols. Forsaking me, you uncovered your bed, you climbed into it and opened it wide; you made a pact with those whose beds you love, and you looked with lust on their naked bodies. 9 You went to Molek with olive oil and increased your perfumes. You sent your ambassadors far away; you descended to the very realm of the dead!
Exodus 22:16 KJV [16] And if a man entice a maid that is not betrothed, and lie with her, he shall surely endow her to be his wife. But this he did CITE
@@Grokford There are Laws in Levitical law that apply, although that is somewhat less important, basically besides the 10 Commandments, keeping the Old Testament in mind, the New Testament teaches a form of virtue ethics, it teaches a virtue ethical framework, not a simply only a list of everything that is morally permissible and everything that is impermissible, it teaches someone what virtue looks like, what it is to be ethical in hopes to guide their future actions. A tenet of virtue ethics is that you have to study the circumstances in the natural world to know what the virtuous action to take will be, knowing natural facts is an important element for us to know how to act virtuously. Premarital sex may be a sin, but if it's not it's certainly not virtuous nor good if you dont marry that person. If you read Exodus 22:16 KJV, it's obviously a bad thing to have sex with someone and not marry them, the Levitical application would have you marry that person, but as we are not under that law anymore, you would not be forced to marry her but that does NOT mean that it's not a sin nor not immoral. This is a case by case basis as there were also ritual laws, but the distinction is clear in biblical context, for example it was not wrong to eat certain foods because those foods were immoral, it was wrong to eat those foods because God told you not to at the time and it would be openly disobeying God, but it was wrong to have sex with a woman, defile her and not take responsibility because it was immoral. There is objectively nothing good about having sex and not marrying that person, but there are objective benefits to marrying that person, that is good.
The English and Biblical definitions of sexual immorality AKA ( Adultery ) are different? The western Christian philosophy isn't the biblical way of marriage . And we wonder why there are so many broken homes and families nowadays, besides that point , we have a problem with submission of wifes because most have chosen western paganized philosophy over the word of the Highest. Sadly not many give God's way a chance.
"The English and Biblical definitions of sexual immorality AKA ( Adultery ) are different?" Sexual immorality is more than just adultery. "The western Christian philosophy isn't the biblical way of marriage ." There is no biblical prescription for how marriage should be done. " And we wonder why there are so many broken homes and families nowadays" Yes, the atomization of society. "we have a problem with submission of wifes because most have chosen western paganized philosophy over the word of the Highest." That is not the problem.
Its always fascinating to see people seeing the absolute truth in books written 2 000 years ago back when about 1% of people knew how to read and to write.
Sin is God telling us what is harmful to our soul.......he is saying keep away from Sin to live with peace of mind.......but if you do Sin he wants you to seek him out to get back the soulful peace of mind he wants you to have.......this doesnt apply to all.......some are just plain evil.......but if you slip he is there to pick us up if you will let him.......life here is a learning journey
This is informative for it to be wrong. Immorality includes homosexuality, incest and the woman’s inability to be loyal to her master and having urges that lead to adultery.
I have had Sex before Marriage 💑, with my my previous relationships, in my 4 relationshipswith my previous/former girlfriends.Sexual Sin is one strong one
Some marriages ,believe it or not,are created by God through home ceremonies and prayer and living together. No need of certificates on earth but it helps with splitting community property.Some marriages that we consider bethrothals are the marriage actually,and sometimes God doesnt intend for all marriages to continue for the whole mortal life.He often plans on us eventually remarrying but by His authority when that better someone will be given.
It's sinful in how it can make you feel about each other. marriage used to be a commitment a sacred bond before God and man but has turned into a legal contract. somewhere along the line that punishs people .
It was always a legal contract. The Bible never calls marriage a sacred bond. We're not supposed to violate our commitments, that's true of all of them, not just marriage.
Yes pre-marital sex is a sin and disrespects the idea of marriage. Have you not read the Bible or something? Because that’s literally what it says. God intended for sex to be marriage and reproductive purposes only. He also stated that “every man should have their own wife and every woman should have their own husband.” That means that He does prohibit pre-marital sex or “fornication”. It says that fornication is a sin and that includes sexual relationships with people before you are married, regardless of whether you think that you love the person and has a desire to eventually get married and have children, and definitely even more so outside of your marriage.
@@HeatherAngus-vj2jq "Yes pre-marital sex is a sin" According to whom? By what authority? For what reason? Because you say so is not sufficient. "and disrespects the idea of marriage." I fail to see how. In fact, from my perspective treating marriage is if it were the vehicle for sex is so ludicrous that it diminishes both marriage and sex. "Have you not read the Bible or something?" I have indeed, I have a degree in theology and I'm afraid that they don't give those out for being pretty. "Because that’s literally what it says." No. Incorrect. The Bible literally never prohibits pre-marital sex. It makes maybe one specific allusion to it. "God intended for sex to be marriage and reproductive purposes only." The Bible definitely never says that. Paul(in 1 Corinthians 7) referred to sexlessness in marriage as some sort of deprivation, so clearly sex involves some sort of mutual satisfaction apart from duty and reproduction. "He also stated that “every man should have their own wife and every woman should have their own husband.”" You might need to check your sources because it sounds like your misquoting from memory. Paul explicitly states that remaining unmarried is preferable. "Now to the unmarried a and the widows I say: It is good for them to stay unmarried, as I do." 1 Corinthians 7:8 "That means that He does prohibit pre-marital sex " That does not follow, even if Paul said that people should be married, which he didn't, that doesn't mean that he things sex should be limited to marriage; that's an entirely new concept. "It says that fornication is a sin and that includes sexual relationships with people before you are married" The Bible never says this, you are applying a modern definition to a medieval word. If you do insist on using five century old translations, please do consider learning more about the English of the period so you can avoid these blunders. "regardless of whether you think that you love the person and has a desire to eventually get married and have children, and definitely even more so outside of your marriage." These are all just your personal preference, it has nothing to do with the meaning of the word, it certainly has nothing to do with the scriptures.
Hebrews 13:4 “Marriage should be honored by all, and marriage bed kept pure, for God will judge both the adulterer and and all the sexually immoral.” What this is saying is that marriage and sexual intercourse only within marriage is honorable and any other types of sexual activity are condemned as immoral before God’s judgement.The Bible honors marriage and therefore it is strongly promoting abstinence before marriage. Before marriage, the couple have no binding Union and they have no sacred covenant without marriage vows and they therefore still don’t have the right to have sex without that. It’s more about just love but an official legal binding union and vows. And literally “according to whom”? And “by what authority”? Um…God Almighty’s say and authority. Several Biblical verses state exactly that. That sex before marriage is still a sin by God’s word and authority.
@@HeatherAngus-vj2jq "Hebrews 13:4" This passage does not mention pre-marital sex. "What this is saying is that marriage and sexual intercourse only within marriage is honorable" It literally does not say that, you are inserting your own biases. "The Bible honors marriage and therefore it is strongly promoting abstinence before marriage." That is not true, it is _you_ who are assuming that abstinence is the only morally correct way to honor a future marriage. "Before marriage, the couple have no binding Union " Yes, but somehow people date and meet one another anyways. " and they have no sacred covenant without marriage vows" Covenants are never described as part of marriage in scripture, and they are described separately from marriage. This point doesn't make sense and it is irrelevant. You don't need to be eternally bonded to someone to have sex with them. "and they therefore still don’t have the right to have sex without that." Adam and Eve never had a covenant or marriage vows and yet we all still got here. and of course people can have the "right" to have sex, it's not granted by marriage, it's granted by the willingness of a partner. You don't get to decide how other people behave. "It’s more about just love but an official legal binding union and vows." Yes, of course, duh. Marriage is not sex, they do not operate by the same rule, they do not have the same effects. You are the one trying to force them to be linked when they really aren't. "And literally “according to whom”? And “by what authority”? Um…God Almighty’s say and authority." No darling, everything that was said in support of your conclusion was said by you, not by God or scripture. If you are unable to separate your personal opinion from God you should work on that. "Several Biblical verses state exactly that." No they don't. You are lying. Because if any verse said "exactly that" you would have shown it already, instead of quoting what is essentially a random verse about marriage and then inventing a story about what it supposedly really means. "That sex before marriage is still a sin by God’s word and authority." You made it up. You know that right? This isn't God, this is at best your lack of reading comprehension. You probably only inherited these ideas but they're not from the text and it's dishonest of your to say that they are.
Sexual intercourse is marriage!👉To the married I give this command (not I, but the Lord): A wife must not separate from her husband.(1 Corinthians 7:10) (If a man's wife isn't a virgin or widow, he is married to another man's wife!) 👉But Er, Judah’s firstborn, was wicked in the LORD’s sight; so the LORD put him to death.Then Judah said to Onan, “Sleep with your brother’s wife and fulfill your duty to her as a brother-in-law to raise up offspring for your brother.” But Onan knew that the child would not be his; so whenever he slept with his brother’s wife, he spilled his semen on the ground to keep from providing offspring for his brother.What he did was wicked in the LORD’s sight; so the LORD put him to death also.(Genesis 38:7-10)
"Sexual intercourse is marriage!" The Bible doesn't say that. "A wife must not separate from her husband.(1 Corinthians 7:10)" This is in a passage specifically regarding mixed faith marriages and requirements. The same chapter says that the uncircumcised shouldn't be circumcised but that doesn't make circumcision a sin. The passage is correcting misconceptions not laying out universal laws. "(If a man's wife isn't a virgin or widow, he is married to another man's wife!)" The Bible doesn't say that either. "Then Judah said to Onan, “Sleep with your brother’s wife and fulfill your duty to her as a brother-in-law to raise up offspring for your brother.”" This was in the context of ancient Hebrew family structure. It doesn't even make sense outside of that.
Better to be judged as unacceptable by the world than to be judged unacceptable by God.
Well I have a degree in biblical studies and I've never seen any scripture which condemns pre-marital sex.
So can I ask what you think I'm missing.
@@Grokford Yes, you can ask. But know that I'm not intimidated by your 'qualification'.
I've some questions for you;
Have you ever read and understood Romans 1:18 to 2:16?
Do you have a relationship with Jesus?
I'm not interested in your answers, just have a think about it.
@@goodviewfromuphere120
"Yes, you can ask. But know that I'm not intimidated by your 'qualification'."
I don't need you to be, but I generally prefer to avoid the shock and awe of people saying that I've never read the Bible because I disagree with them.
"I've some questions for you;
Have you ever read and understood Romans 1:18 to 2:16?"
Well that's an unusual grouping, but I believe so.
Although I'm not sure of the relevance.
"Do you have a relationship with Jesus?"
Also a yes.
"I'm not interested in your answers, just have a think about it."
Well to be frank with you, I find it vaguely rude that you've chosen to respond to a question with some vague moral chastisement.
@goodviewfromuphere120 I hear what you're saying and agree with you with your original comment. There's lots of people who try and justify sin and such. Just keep remembering that one particular part of the Bible right in the beginning when Satan said "You will not surely die"...etc. Same deception, same tactics, just with new generations. Key phrase (part of a verse) is "do not be deceived."
You can't go wrong with a higher standard.
@@DL_Burns
That's an interesting point but I would say that it's strange to not consider the possibility that your perspective could have been brought about through deception.
For centuries upon centuries Christians believed that slavery was ordained by God along with the inferiority of women.
Not two hundred years ago major leaders of American Christianity believed that not only was sex risky but that all sex was immoral along with spices and sugar.
From my perspective Purity culture is an extension of the same flawed tradition.
And I think that it's especially insidious when cultural ideas of sexual purity become more important than the gospel.
QUESTION: How does a single Christian deal with sexual desire in a God-honoring way? "Running" from it doesn't really work.
I commented my thoughts on it.
Not spiritual or sexual advice but alot of religious people just speaking like parrots, I am 34 years of celibacy and i broke Jesus record so take it for what its worth, Ive come to the understanding that lusting is an unatural desire of wanting some thing that some one else has and not being contented with what you have , Jehovah commanded that a man go into a woman then make her his wife, in this modern world they do things in reverse the have a wedding then go into the woman, the bible clearly states the opposite hence the reason i am in this predicament. Ive come to the understanding that prostitution is fornication, the doctor told me i need to do a semen analysis, few days ago i did some STI screenings and i have never had sex in my life of barely if kiss some one, ive been that celibate not because i am scared of women rather of hellfire growing up and also catching diseases i dont eat or drink from people too. with that said so the doctor is causing me to sin my soul and go to help, they say i need prostate check but they must stick a finger up my behind but some how that is not sodomy.. explain me this.,.. its only okay for when a DOCTOR or and EXPERT with their white privilege to do things 😒 then its okay the nurse had to touch my penis and stick a swap up it why?? because the doctor ordered it????
Masturbation is the most common and simple solution, having sex is a more complex alternative.
If you’re not willing to do either of those then maybe a hobby, exercise perhaps?
The former Thai minister of health suggest that the youths play soccer to relieve their sexual frustration, but seeing as that idea has been mocked in every drama for the past decade I don’t think it worked very well.
Get married. But if you're single: Don't turn to masturbation, you'll stay single for a longer time because it takes your motivation away from meeting other women. But don't beat yourself up too much if you cave in once in a while either. Just get fit, go outside and date multiple women if you have to - there's nothing wrong with that until you start taking someone seriously and you're saving a lot of time. If you're still pent up at this point, take a part time job on top of your full time job. Having more money will make it so much easier to start a family down the road.
@@sexysputnik
That is insane advice.
Marriage is not something that you should be forcing yourself into, let alone for the stupid reason of unresolved horniness.
If masturbating stops you from pursuing a relationship then you shouldn't be pursuing that relationship regardless.
Nonbeliever/former Christian here. I actually admire anyone that enters into marriage as a virgin. But even this is no guarantee of a problem-free, successful marriage. It takes effort from two people to make it work. You will experience pain and hardship in marriage, even if you are both virgins, Christian, and have all the right beliefs.
There’s also a much higher risk of problems, whether that be marrying too soon(because young Christians are horny) marrying someone your incompatible with or just the general fact that if you spend so long avoiding and often fearing sex, that doesn’t just go away when the vows are done.
To say nothing of toxic assumptions about sex or sexual roles, women who wait to have sex until they’re married often suffer much higher rates of vaginismus, which is attributed to them having sex out of obligation rather than genuine desire.
@@GrokfordI hope Noone listens to your terrible ungodly advice. Your path is the path to he'll. Please get on the right path.
You are statistically wrong.
Grokford, if someone fears sex, then they probably don't need to get married. Probably not even date for that matter.
With respect, there is no such thing as a former Christian. You're simply saying you never were on in the first place.
How would one send a direct message on UA-cam?
i think with some people, they think it is a sin. i think there is a lot of regret, especially with women. physical love and relationships , are things most people that relate soul to love . the idea that someone used you, and did not care for you , must be soul crushing . it's a self punishing sin , that leaves you feeling, unloved and unwanted .
I have a question. Why do people still have sex? Sex is very gross, nasty, messy, and disgusting! I don't see how sex is a good thing. Why don't humans just remove sex from this world? Women can still get pregnant without sex (there's a lot of ways women can get pregnant without sex including artificial insemination). Sex does cause a lot of problems, so the world might be a much better place without it.
All the more reason to not pretend that sex isa sign of commitment or Love.
@@icysnow57cold64
People enjoy sex, if you don't that's fine. Asexuality is relatively common, but most people do like sex, at least a little bit.
GOD IS NOT SOME PEOPLE, IF YOU PRACTICE ANY KIND OF SEXUAL SIN INCLUDING SELF GRATIFICATION YOU WILL GO TO HELL.
What the what
I had sex before marriage but i was 22 by then and I'm still with my first 10 yrs later!❤
@@josephpchajek2685 you're going to compare my love life to your old drug habit? You're a dummy for even comparing the two.
@@josephpchajek2685
That's not a good comparison.
If someone is as sexually obsessed as you are then maybe sex is like heroin.
But that's not how most people are.
@@rondrake77777
"Don't forget to confess the sin of premarital sex."
Pre-marital sex is not a sin.
"I had sex with my wife before our marital ceremony. I lost my virginity to her and am still married to her 8 years later"
I understand that you regret this, but I don't see any inherent problem.
"but I had to repent because all sex has to happen during the timeframe of marriage."
No it doesn't.
Who said that?
Not the Bible.
"Sex outside of marriage is one form of fornication. The other version of fornication is sex right before marriage."
Well the word "fornication" is not used in modern Bible translations and for good reasons, the word has changed in meaning from when it was first used five _hundred_ years ago and it no longer matches what the actual text of the Bible said.
Pre-marital sex is never prohibited in the Bible.
Still about 3% divorce probability
@@jemperdiller
What's your point?
But if they cannot contain, let them marry: for it is better to marry than to burn.
if they cannot contain maybe they should get a therapist?? rather than throwing themselves into marriage. If they can't handle abstaining from physical pleasures, it sounds like they need to work on the strength of their hearts first. Entering the marriage with strength and fortitude for life's different challenges. Marriage isn't all about sex.
@@lalaishappyyy it's just a Bible verse. Not an opinion or comment.
@@goobertgoobert Isn't it amazing that your comment (verse) was able to expose other people's ignorance of the Bible and their ability to quote worldly ways so easily.
What about Isaiah Chapter 4?
Short Answer: Yes.
Unfortunately a lot of the information was wrong.
Biblically it is not wrong
@@klyetruman7285 said no bible ever
@John3.36 Prove it then, where is the scripture in the law of moses?? Show it or shut up. The laws of sex before marriage apply to virgin women and virgin women who are engaged to be married. Why? Because they are the property of their father. You clearly don't know the mosaic law. Get off of UA-cam and go study. I'll help you if you need it.
@@klyetruman7285
The Bible teaches that sex before marriage is immoral in a couple of different passages. One is 1 Corinthians 7:2, which says, “But since sexual immorality is occurring, each man should have sexual relations with his own wife, and each woman with her own husband.” In this verse, marriage is presented as the “cure” for sexual immorality. Sexual union within marriage, which is commended, is set against immorality, which is to be avoided. Thus, any sex outside of marriage is considered immoral. This would have to include premarital sex.
Another verse that presents sex before marriage as immoral is Hebrews 13:4, “Marriage should be honored by all, and the marriage bed kept pure, for God will judge the adulterer and all the sexually immoral.” Here, we have both adultery and fornication contrasted with what happens in the marriage bed. Marriage (and sexual intercourse within marriage) is honorable; all other types of sexual activity are condemned as immoral and bring God’s judgment.
Wait tell me than me and my "wife" have been together for 10 years committed to eachother and our child. Whats the difference when ive seen marriages end withing the first 5 years.
Oh we arent married because of the legal nonsense. We should be allowed to be together without it being a sin when Christians get married, have sex and divorced in less time than me and her have had our family dog.
A Christians model is the Bible, not what has worked for you and your girlfriend.
@@UmamiPapi
The Bible doesn't necessitate marriage for sex though, that's a modern cultural notion.
And he raises a valid point.
Government documentation is extraneous, it can't be the thing that makes sex morally valid.
So why should we condemn a committed long-term relationship and praise teenager marrying eachother?
As an atheist Jew who thinks premarital sex is a must to know that the couple is compatible and don't care what either religion says, I wonder how did I get here?
You got here because God is showing you the error of your ways. He loves you and wants the best for you. His way is the best way.
@@crazymountain777 I think when it comes to premarital sex its a bit too late, I'm married already. I do "sin" in some different areas, but for some reason that's not where god brought me.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not one of those rebels who is trying to be "bad". I live according to my conscience, try to do good when I can. Not here to look for religious people to argue with either, to each their own. I'm just wondering why did UA-cam algorithm suggested this video for me.
@@crazymountain777
The idea that pre-marital sex is a sin is more of a cultural idea that an idea inherent to the Bible or the Christian faith.
And there are so problems that come along with that.
So while in theory I have no problem with someone getting married with no sexual experience, practically I really doubt that most people are doing so in a way that’s responsible or accounts for potential problems.
Many young Christians do get married just for the social acceptability of the sex they’d like to be having anyways.
Simple,you're an atheist and won't understand.
Basically "Try Before You Buy!"
It's like Buying a New Car... Can you take it for a Test Drive, or do you have to Pay for it First?
So you want something that's already tried on by many others before you... You want a second hand vehicle 🚜? 😅
Okay... if you want to go that route, tell me... when you bought your car, did you Test Drive it First? Or did you Pay for it first?
@@MatthewFordVictoria you know what I'm talking about 😅
My shoes aren't full of dried semen and deep emotional baggage.
Good! Glad to hear you've been using protection! LOL
You focus on the wrong word. It's not sexual immorality that makes your case against premarital sex, but sexual greed. Greed is a much more solid notion than immorality, and implies anything you are drawn to out of an insatiable desire to have it. Then you have the third buzzword, impurity, which is a solid 10/10 unmistakable definition of whether you have done it or not.
Of course, all of this means little to nothing as linguistic nuance gets utterly lost in translation. So if you really want to follow the word of God, you better start learning Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek, because ANY translation will be an interpretation of the translator, who without cultural competence (where cultural context can shift in as short as a few decades) can not have the innate understanding of the true meaning behind the words, the connotative meaning of the phrases... you know what? I'll just stop here instead of giving you a linguistics course.
Words can carry additional meaning beyond their straight translation. And no amount of paralel texts will teach you the zeitgeist of a culture to capture the nuance of every single word.
To genuinely adhere to the tenets of a religion, it is crucial to consider the cultural context that was present when the religious texts were originally written to understand the vernacular fully. That context is no longer possible to retrieve. All you can do is approximate it to the best of your capabilities, by studying the original language, and reading the original scripture, because even speaking about the imprecise nature of a translation in the language of a translation could be considered a form of the tu quoque fallacy.
Academic rant over...
"You focus on the wrong word. It's not sexual immorality that makes your case against premarital sex, but sexual greed. Greed is a much more solid notion than immorality"
That's very true, but it's also not what the text said.
Sure Greed could cross over into sexuality, but that is just one type of sexual immorality among many.
"Then you have the third buzzword, impurity, which is a solid 10/10 unmistakable definition of whether you have done it or not."
Not necessarily, it's definitely a meaningless buzzword.
But sometimes people can lose their "purity" just from extended time in the presence of the opposite sex.
It's an amorphous turn meant to be used to enforce whatever arbitrary biases of the speaker.
"Of course, all of this means little to nothing as linguistic nuance gets utterly lost in translation. So if you really want to follow the word of God, you better start learning Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek, because ANY translation will be an interpretation of the translator, who without cultural competence (where cultural context can shift in as short as a few decades) can not have the innate understanding of the true meaning behind the words, the connotative meaning of the phrases... yo u know what? I'll just stop here instead of giving you a linguistics course."
Very true, but I'd also argue that there are many steps that people can take to improve accuracy of interpretation without learning several ancient languages..
It can be as simple as learning the parts of speech or as complicated as learning how translation works in an entirely separate language..
My studies in anthropology and linguistics certainly have helped me, but I've also spent a lot of time as an interpreter for unrelated languages and that's probably the biggest help to me when it comes to interpreting adjusting for difference in language.
"Words can carry additional meaning beyond their straight translation. And no amount of paralel texts will teach you the zeitgeist of a culture to capture the nuance of every single word."
Amen man, preachin' to the choir.
How is Masturbation a sin? I mean you are not having sex with a partner?
@may !! I don’t see it as a sin i see it as a habit that should not grow more then it is
@may !! oh thank you for that and thank you for being level headed about it to just people would bash me mate,lol.God bless!!
@may !! what scripture says that
It’s not a sin, they made that up.
Have you ever masterbaited without lusting?
I can tell you one thing. I’m 50 and my vision is just fine.
I agree that sexual self discipline is definitely a very important virtue. However, whether sex is god or bad in God's eye cannot depend on the approval of a bishop, priest, pastor or state officer. This is most obvious nowadays when the same people also approve same sex relationships. In the bible it was usually the brides father that did the wedding. And fornication is basically voluntarily changing sex partners.
That's my issue. Really whom you could trust to tell you in the first place.
The original word that they translated to lust also meant covet, and should have been translated to covet instead of lust.
The passage was never meant to demonize normal sexual desire, shaming that is a barbaric and unhealthy practice.
There are major flaws in this teaching. She did not quote one Scripture at all. So she gave you the stock Christian answer. She should sit down and be quiet! She missed this by a long shot.
What have you said as a self proclaimed pastor except judging her and fingering here... You should be ashamed of yourself to bear that title.... Instead of you adding what she missed you're attacking which is completely no scripture reference of note
I very much like your videos Mr. Dowell, and I agree, she should sit and be quiet. But I didn't really see the flaw in her statements, she seems to be saying that sex outside of marriage is a sin; is it not? I'm curious which part of her position you disagree with?
She made her point and quoted scripture. Whats your point? She said that it is indeed a sin and proved it with bible verses
@@arthursimango500
Scripture doesn’t have a lot of relevant commentary on specific UA-cam Videos or modern Christian politics.
She’s making things up, that’s simply the reality.
@@user-uk2lb6cs7j
No passage of scripture ever prohibits or condemns pre-marital sex.
NO IT'S A TOTALLY OBVIOUS FACT THAT PRE MARITAL SEX LITERALLY NEVER HAS OR WILL BE A SIN AT ALL SERIOUSLY PERIOD NO QUESTIONS ASKED AT ALL and to be TOTALLY honest i did do and will NOT like MOST baptist and pentecostal people AT ALL PERIOD
Thats not what porneia actually means. It means prostitute. Not to justify fornication, but we have to be accurate about the original language and historical context.
The Bible never actually condemns fornication
@@GrokfordTbh this is the toughest thing though to wrap my head around because of the explanation of "fornication" being
@@ApolloAceOfBass
Well the short answer is that "fornication" is a mistranslation, the longer answer is that the translation was correct but English literally changed around it until it was wrong.
Here's the problem, one's interpretation of what sexual immorality is can be different from another persons. The bible says sexual immorality is wrong but does not specifically define what it is, man defined it. It can be a host of things. It could mean between two gay people, it could mean anal sex, it could mean a lot of things.
That's the beauty of the Bible. There is enough vagueness to allow multiple ideas to potentially be true.
@@mattr.1887 I feel the sarcasm but it's valid. This is why so many different religions popped up. This is why I do not understand why some state that the bible is inerrant.
Wrong. The word sexual immorality in the Greek is covering all “sexual” sins outside the “marriage” bed. It’s not up for interpretation. Do your research and do your due diligence as scripture teaches you. This is why so many people are compromising things in the Bible because they lack understanding like you just proved. Sex outside of marriage is wrong period. But there is forgiveness but you have to recognize it.
That's actually bs. The Bible is quite straightforward about sexual immorality and defines it pretty clear: homosexuality (whether gay or lesbian), premarital sex, willful negation of procreation are morally wrong, ie. sinful. It's quite clear and if someone is defending different notions, they're either full of shit and/or uneducated.
For example: why was Joseph so troubled with accepting Mary and the Scriptures spin the tale of dream and angel messengers (buttery butter as "angel" by itself means "messenger")? Because being pregnant before marriage was clear sign of premarital sex and it was big no-no in Israelite culture.
Old Testament is clear about the fact that man laying with man (ie. having sex) is so bad that they're both basically dead already.
St. Paul mocked Roman pagans by stating God gave them to their shameful lusts and women were drawn to women in unnatural way, men to men (Romans 1:26-27).
And yes, there are people who try to play with the words and say that Paul used Greek word ἄρσενες in the meaning of "boys", not "men" - ie. Paul is condemning boy-man relations known in Greek culture - or that it have nothing to do with homosexuality at all but cult of Cybele (mother of gods and protectress of Rome), but it's all really sloppy scholarship as OT and NT as a whole are pretty consistent in absolute condemnation of any homosexual acts.
That's not entirely true, man did not define all of it. It specifically lists adultery and fornication as sins, as well as homosexuality and any form of lust. I don't know what version you're reading, but it's there, even if not spelled out to your liking. The Bible is inerrant, and the issue with people who think otherwise is that they're not informed enough to understand the consistency, and sometimes they're just looking for excuses to live the way they want even without realizing it. Sin is black and white, not grey, and it's our responsibility to apply the seemingly "vague" principles of the Bible to the different areas of our life. I don't know what you mean, there's only one religion that adheres to the Christian Bible which is Christianity. Muslims may worship the same god, but based on the claims of a man who came much later and the Koran. Maybe you're referring to different denominations of Christianity, in which case you're right that there are different interpretations of certain things, like baptism for example. There are certain grey areas of the Bible that Christians can agree to disagree over because they aren't as serious, but sin is not one of them. Sexual sin is laid out clearly enough for those willing to listen.
telling single people they can't have sex or masturbate is just stupid to me and just sets people up to fail, its either going to be one or the other its just to unrealistic and every sane Christian knows that,
True. Just like a lot of other sins, it's hard for we - as sinful humans - to resist, which is the whole reason why Jesus died on the cross so that we could be made righteous through his blood.
So you are not a Christian
Yes it is. I know I wish I would have waited until I was married. It is not hard to see the negative consequences of fornicating.
Yes,the aftermath is destructive and takes a lot of victims .Only they don't know it initially...untill you discover why nothing goes as you plan
@@HansRichter-lh9gt wat do u both regret?? like wat happened for y'all to regret?
@petermulinzi1288 that we committed a serious sin ,immoral sexual sin for the sake of pleasure and lust.Becoming one in body and soul.Something sacred and preserved for after marriage live,between and man and a woman.
Promiscuous lifestyle or various sexual engagements mean you unleash all your previous partners' demons onto the one you're having sex with.
It's a sin,immoral, and wrong.How much your ever and justify it,you'll suffer the consequences. Sooner or later. You won't walk free until you repent,refrain yourself from doing it, and receive forgiveness.
@@HansRichter-lh9gt wat consequences did u face in ur case?
that’s wat i’m trying to know
@petermulinzi1288 sorry,fair enough.Guilt ,becoming more aware as one grow older,grow spiritual realizing what despicable sin you've committed in the eyes of the Lord.Apart from becoming one in soul and flesh with the other party,also,opening up to all the demons and bad spirits of all the previous sex partners that person had.
Losing perspective on and of something that is meant to be sacred.
Future trust issues
Often thinking about the fact that your partner was not the first ,even who knows how many before,to share something sacred reserved for someone special. Out of love,not just.
After many years of married life with a loving wive,l often tend to think about .Foolishly as it may seem.
Personal emotions l experience, or,maybe not.Once one realizes how sacred and magic this deed actually means.
Jesus didn't up the standard. That a misreading of Mathew 5. The "you have heard it said" wasn't Jesus quoting the old testament but the scribes and Pharisees. And saying "but I say to you" wasn't a law but wisdom on how to become the type of person that would not commit these sins by dealing with the source attitude. The Greek word "a woman" often means "wife" so there is nothing wrong in being attracted to a single woman, that's not adultery anyway. The word "lust" or 'desire" is the same word used for covet in the Greek translation of the ten commandments"you shall not covet your neighbors wife"
Just meaning Jesus wasn't raising the standard just clearing it from religious interpretations. And the law of Moses weren't actually laws, as in legislation,but wisdom..torah is the correct word. And that's what Jesus is doing giving wisdom on how to have righteousness beyond the scribes and Pharisees.
Paul - are you saying that none of the things that Moses stated were laws? I am just trying to be sure that I understand what you are saying, I don't want to misrepresent you.
@@honestplus1756 the ancient world knew nothing of LAWS as in legislation. What we call "law" or more correctly "Torah" are instructions and wisdom for the people of God in the covenant. So you don't need a specific command to know that sex is meant for marriage, wisdom teaches that. Wisdom brings order
The Old Testament scholar John Walton has a number of videos on UA-cam explaining what Torah was.
@@Liminalplace1
Would you like to join me on zoom to discuss, if you have time? I would be honored.
What about all the men and women who were executed for breaking the commandments of moses?
@@MujahidOfTheRedwoods that was because it disrupted social order and the letter of the punishment wasn't always carried out...eg. King David's adultery and murder . Moses didn't create a legislation but legal saying to give wisdom example to administrators ..it was not intended as LAW.
Curious where the idea that sexual immorality means everything besides married sex comes from... In the New Testament, the word porneia (sexual immorality) seems to be connected to self-control, not to marital status. See ua-cam.com/video/z2L-UEANq4c/v-deo.html
Hello! The Bible does specifically address sex before marriage, because it says that fornication is a sin: Marriam-Webster definition: fornication. noun. "Sexual intercourse between persons who are not married..."
That's not the biblical definition of fornication! How about you learn the hebrew word and definition of fornication. Fornication is also sleeping with father or mother, sleeping with your own brother or sister, sex with animals, when a man has sex with another man, etc. Sex before marriage is a sin for virgin women! Why? Because virgins belong to their father's and a dowry is paid for her. Virgins must also prove that they didn't have sex before marriage by presenting a bloody sheet after the marriage is consummated. If blood is not found, she is to be put to death. That law is not for every woman. NOW, PROVE ME WRONG!
"Fornication" is an English word, it does not match the Greek or Hebrew texts.
@@klyetruman7285
You're essentially right, but there is no "biblical definition of fornication" the word didn't exist.
Translation should rely on creating accurate facsimiles of the original meaning, not on changing another language to fit.
@Grokford The context is key to understanding. Leviticus and deuteronomy never speak ill of sex before marriage, except in the context of a virgin or virgin woman promised to a man.
In our society sex is normal but in bible says sex is for marriage only..
Marriage starts when one person engages with another person and thus become one. A minister or county clerk assistance become a third party marriage.
What's done is done right? What happens afterwards? Getting burnt in hell for eternity or what?
No. That's the reason why Jesus died on the cross; to make us righteous through his blood and get saved. We are born sinners and are incapable of keeping every single commandment.
If you repent, understand and accept that you're unable to save yourself and the only way to be saved is through Jesus, you will be saved.
Matthew 5:27-28 explained correctly. Jesus was not 'upping' the standard. He was pointing out the standard that was there all along.
A bad translation of this verse. In Greek, they don’t have a separate word for “wife” vs “woman”. They are the exact same word and only context can tell you which is which. The point Jesus is making is about adultery. Biblical adultery can only be committed when a married woman is involved. Therefore, the women mentioned here must be married. If she isn’t, then you simply can’t have the sin of adultery. It’s literally impossible.
A more accurate translation from the Greek, "but I say to you that everyone who gazes intently at a [married] woman in order to covet her has already committed adultery with her in his heart."
All of a sudden, the whole verse makes perfect sense. Jesus says that if you covet your neighbor’s wife, you’ve as good as committed adultery with her in your heart. The issue is coveting another man’s wife, not noticing an attractive woman.
The Greek word Pros conveys intention. Jesus was talking about intentional, purposeful looking/staring here and that’s the first crucial point. Jesus is not talking about an accidental glance or catching a bit of flesh out of the corner of your eye.
“lust” in that passage is the Greek word “ἐπιθυμῆσαι” (epithumeó). It means to show focused passion as it aptly builds on (Gk epi, “upon”) what a person truly yearns for; to “greatly desire to do or have something - ‘to long for, to desire very much‘
It can be Either One in a Married Couple! If one of them sneaks away to have Sex with someone else, that's adultery! For example... having sex with a fellow employee, before going home to their husband or wife.
It is interesting to hear this from an American or European person because it seems everyone is doing pre-marital sex.
Yes, but then the Bible never prohibits pre-marital sex.
exactly the thing is when you have sex with some one you need to stick with them and stand with them especially if the person gets pregnant because the orphan children is a plague to society thats why a marriage certificate and witnesses is to force accountability your word is your bond@@Grokford
@@AviatorDark
Sex and commitment are entirely different things. We only set people up for failure when we tell them otherwise.
Sex doesn't even morally obligate commitment.
Obviously people are responsible for their children, but that has nothing to do with a marriage relationship.
Marriage is a socio-legal contract that is primarily meant to protect the members of the couple. In periods where parental obligations were not recognized yes it also included protections for children but largely the two are unrelated.
@@Grokford it prohibits fornication so what do you base that statement on
@@Fatelvis2
Not quite, fornication did not imply pre-marital sex when it was first used in translation five centuries ago, that connotation grew out of cultural biases, which are closely linked to the loss of inheritance rights for bastards in Britain.
The original Greek and Hebrew never made any mention of pre-marital sex. The addition of pre-marital sex to the understanding of the term "fornication" was quirk of socio-linguistic history.
"Fornication" has not been used in new English translations of the Bible for the better part of a century. Instead translations tend to favor the more general "sexual immorality" which is closer to the original meaning of the text.
Sex is very much like a fire. Put in its proper spot, a fireplace (ie. marriage), it can warm your home and give light. But place it anywhere other than your fireplace it will burn your house down.
I hope this channel gets bigger
I guess nobody ever explained this to King Solomon? 700 wives and 300 concubines?
If Adultery is premarital sex what is Adulterated huh ?
Premarital sex isn't adultery, its fornication. Also condemned in scripture. Adultery always refers to someone who is married.
@@klamb9
“Fornication” is an archaic word that does not mean what it once did. It is not an accurate reflection of the meaning of text.
The Bible never prohibits pre-marital sex; that is a cultural notion that was connected with moral terminology.
Yes I enjoyed everything u said it so Tru continue your great work
If everyone would follow this law of confining sexual expression to marriage it's undeniable that there would be a lot less problems in society, i.e. unwanted pregnancy, STDs, broken trust, etc. But above that, my belief is that those who wait until marriage are blessed with a heightened ability to feel the Spirit, and that's where the deeper blessings come from. All this being said, even those who have not kept this law can receive forgiveness and healing through the grace of Jesus Christ.
"If everyone would follow this law of confining sexual expression to marriage"
That's not a law, the Bible never says that.
"it's undeniable that there would be a lot less problems in society"
I beg to differ.
"i.e. unwanted pregnancy, STDs, broken trust, etc."
I'll grant that there would be fewer STDs but that's about it.
I dont think marriage makes inherently makes a pregnancy more wanted.
And I really don't think that having sex or not having sex is going to make a major impact on how often people break trust, at least not directly.
"But above that, my belief is that those who wait until marriage are blessed with a heightened ability to feel the Spirit, and that's where the deeper blessings come from."
Sounds like hokum, not gonna lie.
That's so vague I really don't think that you could prove that even if it were true.
What a great video. Your delivery of the information is perfect:). Impressive.
Unfortunately a lot of the information was wrong.
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This video gives a half-answer at best. Thumbs down.
logistically and mathematically not everyone can marry. also, not everyone is suited for marriage. yet, god hardwired all for sex, made it intensely pleasurable, and mentally and physically beneficial, not just for married couples, but for all. if one believes god loves all equally, why is god prejudiced against and why does god discriminate against the unmarried? there is absolutely nothing immoral about unmarried people having consensual sex. the term pre marital should not exist, for sex or anything else, for the reasons i cited above. while being married is indeed a life event it does not earn or grant special access to things unmarried people are restricted from. get over yourselves. you got married, you did not split the atom
preach! good comment
Read the Bible.
Fornication is a sin.
then the theory god loves all is wrong, because god is prejudice against the unmarried. there are many strange things in the bible, and it was written when languages were evolving, translation was relatively new, etc... if you want me, and many others i assume, to believe unmarried people having consensual sex is a sin, someone needs to explain why. no just "read the bible." or, not just admit but truly understand, god is an evil psycho that plays favorites@@DrDoerk
@@DrDoerk I know that, its just absurd that it is a sin and it just makes God look more like a dictator then a just and righteous God that's what i don't like about it, With all the evil in the world it is ridiculous to me that he finds fornication a sin between two consenting adults,
@@JOHNNY92832 I would read the parable about the Potterer and the clay (I'm pretty sure that's what is called...it's something close to that).
You are right, to our human pea sized minds it doesn't make since.... but don't you think that an all knowing and all loving God knows more than us?
That's just something I recommend you ponder.
We are just vases that God hand molded, who are we to tell God what is right and what is wrong?
our sexual habits is what matters most. marriage brings emotional, psychological security for all parties involved
A question which is not really clear here "Any sexual act outside a marriage between one man and one woman"
So I personally could take that phase with 2 meaning.
-Banning everything outside marriage.
-Or it is banning sexual acts outside marriage for already married persons.
It should be made clear here what do it actually refers to. And when a translation could get a bit double meaning we should take a bit of double check on the meaning of the original script.
What if you don't like it, you're just stuck huh ??
If you don't like sex?
Then you should probably explore asexuality and aromanticism and see if any of that resonates with you.
If not, or you historically had a sex drive, then it might be worth exploring if you've had some medical shift recently or added some new medication.
Anti-depressants are notorious for reducing sex drive.
However how you should respond to that it up to you, sometime the better thing for you health is to keep your medication.
Answer: yes, you are stuck for life in a miserable situation. My wife decided she didn't like sex and that sex was not to be a feature of our marriage right up front. End-of-sexlife. My advice: do not marry someone whom you are not certain you are sexually compatible with.
Great thing about not being Christian: I don't sin. There is no sin. It is just a Christian thing.
good answer.
You deceive yourself, it's quite the opposite. You still sin, but it is not forgiven if you don't place your faith in Christ. Being forgiven is the only route to Heaven and the only other eternal destination is Hell. God bless you.
Only according to the Christian god. According to Egyptian god, you Christians are in serious trouble, because you are not buried with an ankh. And when you go before Anubis he will be able to see through your lies.@@UmamiPapi
Glory to God!!!
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No
It’s called fornication, but everyone is sinning one way or the other.
God is right. Every sin brings to distruction.
dude!!!!! "sexual immorality" can have different meanings!!!!
you and I can interpret it differently.
there is no set definition for sexual morality, it can mean cheating on your partner, rape or as small as having lust full desires
Fornication ring a bell?
@@DrDoerk
Fornication is a mistranslation, as you should already well know.
Look at that sinner squirm as he defends his filth
but if only having a simple lustful desire towards someone is already a sin why wouldnt pre-marital sex wouldnt be as well? no sense to me
@@alissonkaykydasilvabatista517 bing bing bing, we got a winner!
You are totally correct!
You're coming from an american societal perspective and not biblical.
Mmm, do explain citing biblical sources that are compelling.
Biblically sex is marriage so the idea of premarital sex doesn't exist.
With that said, sex without the intent of marriage or complete marriage can be classified as a form of sin.
Intent of marriage is immaterial.
Always, remember, if YOU DO NOT INTEND TO MARRY HER, IT IS NOT PREMARITAL SEX. It's that simple!!!
I'm supposed to take advice on sex from someone who died a virgin?
Brother that point is so off kilter i cant even Lol
Jesus was not a normal man... he was God in human form so he had no reason (or want) to be married. also, could you imagine being a girl and being married to the literal creator of the universe?
Also... he made the entire sex process so yes LOL
if you believe that Jesus is a mere human, so you shouldn't follow him. Christianity isn't about a guy who was really smart and good and so we should listen to him to live better lives.
Jesus claimed to be God, he's either a madman, or a lier or he's really God. If you do believe he's God, so he's all knowing, and knows all outcomes of anything because he created time too. In this case you better study more about him and try to understand his will for you, because it's the right thing to do, it doesn't matter if it makes your life better or worse. If you once found a wallet and returned to the owner instead of taking to you, you deep down know doing what is right is better than doing what is beneficial for you.
The question is beyond obsurd.
All you need to do is read God's word. why ask foolish questions.
It's as foolish as asking if murder is a sin.
And sadly a large part of the population think both fornication and murder is okay..... what had the world gone to?
Pre-marital sex is never listed as a sin in scripture, that is folk belief.
@@Grokford You should actually read the Bible.
The meaning of FORNICATION is consensual sexual intercourse between two persons not married to each other.
This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. 17For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. 18But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law. 19Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, 20Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, 21Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, AND SUCH LIKE: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.(that means you will go to hell)
If you don't road test a car, how will you know if it performs?
Thanks for your comment. This is a common question that I think is very important to think about. When comparing this idea of "test driving a car" to a person, we are implying that the main purpose they have in our lives is to please us. Therefore, if they don't "perform well" then they aren't worth loving. That is frankly a very wrong and evil way to view someone who is created in the image of God.
The view God gives us of sex, is that it's purpose is not to just "please me", it's purpose is for me to serve and love my spouse inside the context of marriage.
I hope you can see that this "test driving" mentality is not the selfless, unconditional love God calls us to in marriage. This is why saving sex for marriage is so important, because once you've committed your life to someone before God (in marriage), then you will love them until "death due us part" no matter how they "perform" sexually or otherwise. And the same is true for you. They will love you until "death due us part" in all of your imperfections and shortcomings, which we all have plenty of. People aren't made to be "test driven." This is one reason why God's design for marriage and sex is so much better than what our culture is trying to sell.
I hope this helps.
@@STINTTBF I was being facetious because that's the only way to react to such an inane viewpoint.
You assume a god without having a shred of evidence, presumably because of indoctrination, and yet have the audacity to state my viewpoint is "very wrong and evil". If you want to read of vain, vile, genocidal and sadistic, perverted acts you should read your Bible because your claimed god is all of those and more. I'd be interested on why your god places animal welfare above incest and child rape
I''ll give you just one example why a "road test" is important. I've worked overseas for many years and had a Muslim girlfriend for some time I was intimate with. Unfortunately, she'd been subjected to FGM involving removal of the inner labia and clitoris and so tragically was able to experience little sexual pleasure other than closeness. The question of marriage was not an issue because her parents had arranged that when she was six to her first cousin but what is that were not the case? I like to give pleasure and not being able to made what we did feel unfulfilling so your assumption " it's purpose is not to just "please me"" is the polar opposite of my personality. Of course, that road test works both ways.
Your upbringing has eliminated all objectivity you may otherwise have used to make judgments regarding not only the lives of others but also your own and all because you believe fairy tales about a magical sky daddy and a man who handed out fish sandwiches. That's fine if that's as far as it gets but you people interfere and affect the lives of others and the Roe v Wade verdict and its implications are the perfect example of that. I personally believe that abortion is wrong in most cases but you god botherers want to enforce your views in those that want nothing to do with your superstitious beliefs.
@@STINTTBF
No.
We don't have cars for pleasure, we have cars for functionality.
Sex is a major part of a marriage, and sexual compatibility is one of the primary causes of divorce.
Waiting to have sex until you're in a lifelong commitment with someone is, at best, a risk, and it's irresponsible to ignore that.
Worse is the culture of shame that prevents people from even talking about sex and condemns them for even wanting it.
It is not selfish or ill-intentioned to want to be with someone who is sexually compatible, framing it that way is dishonest and destructive.
If someone wants to wait to have sex until they're married then more power to them, but if they're not able to at least talk about it then they're being careless.
Moreover, even this video acknowledges that there is no biblical precedent for the idea that pre-marital sex is immoral. No verse or passage ever says that.
Repeating false ideas of what "God says" is at best irresponsible, more likely it is actively harmful.
When it comes to marriage, people SHOULD be "test driven". You don't just marry some random person; you spend time getting to know them first. Not saying you should have sex or date number 1 or even date number 300. But at some point, it's supposed to happen. If it happens before the legal marriage ceremony, I'm not convinced that this is some irreparable tragedy in every single instance.
@@Grokford You don't have a nice weekend car just for pleasure? How sad.
YES, YES, YES!!!
I’m bisexual at this point I’m just gonna go back to being asexual and not like anyone or anything
If you have to ask the question then you haven't studied the scriptures well enough. Yes it is.
Masturbation is in violation to none of God's commandment. Anyone who claims it is sin teaches human bids, and is a heretic.
And Matthew 5:27-28 is one of the worst misused verses in the bible.
These verses are horribly taken out of context. First of all: OF COURSE adultery can only be commited as long as there is a marriage included in the situation. If you read the bible in its context you will understand that Jesus adressed the unallowed lusting for another man's wife. Nothing else.
It's about intentional desire to get what is forbidden according to the law.
A single man lusting for(wanting to get) a single woman is of course not sin. How could otherwise a man even search for a wife?
God's word always needs to be read in its context!
I wish someone would make a video about sex chat before marriage Video calls and such!!!!????
I would also like to see people talking about sex with their potential sexual partners.
If you can’t discuss it then you’re not ready.
Use the brain God gave you. If looking with lust is sin sexting is absolutely sin. It's astounding you need it spelled out.
A young man and a lady escape into the desert when their village is ambushed by a neighbouring village. All their relatives are killed and they are the only ones who have remained. Whilst in the desert, they agree to be married in order to propagate their lineage. Q. Should we say they were not married even in God's eyes just because there was no human witness around? If so, who witnessed Cain's marriage in the bible?
If you say sex before marriage is a sin, then also be kind enough to define what marriage is according to the bible as well rather than according to the customs and fear burdened traditions of men.
The Bible seems to describe marriage according to the customs of the time.
Solomon is described as having both wives and concubines, recognizing a social difference.
But it’s not a great concern because the Bible never prohibited pre-marital sex.
I would argue It's a sin not to have sex before marrage. Also, never enter into a lifetime monogamous relationship with someone with even knowing if you're sexually compatible. God want you to be happy.
There is nothing in the Bible that supports your claim about sex before marriage, there is also nothing in the Bible that tells us that God wants us to be happy. True joy is only found in the Lord Jesus Christ, and I would kindly encourage you to repent and put your faith in Him. I promise you will experience true joy, much better than temporary 'happiness'
I have always believed that sex-before-marriage was sinful. So I fought the good fight to remain a virgin prior to marriage. To this day I consider this the biggest mistake of my life given what happened. I had no clue that I was making a life-long commitment to someone who was 100% sexually incompatible with me.
God wants us to glorify his name here on earth by our words and actions. This will lead to discomfort at times. It’s not about making ourselves happy it’s about pleasing God.
@@connordiem2834
“For I know the plans I have for you,” declares the Lord, “plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future.”
Jeremiah 29:11 NIV
This sounds like a general statement that God seeks our benefit in some sense.
And I would say that there is no scripture supporting the idea that pre-marital sex is a sin. That is a cultural notion more than anything.
Hell no
You're a heathen and this video is on the Bible.
Romans 3:23 Bible
For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,
Romans 6:23 Bible
For the wages of sin is death but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord
Romans 5:8 Bible
But God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.
Romans 10:13 Bible
For “everyone who calls on the name of the Lord (Jesus) will be saved.”
Matthew 7:21-23
Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in.
“Then neither do I condemn you,"Jesus declared. “Go now and leave your life of sin.” - John 8:11
"No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God’s seed remains in them; they cannot go on sinning, because they have been born of God." - 1 John 3:9
"For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear." - 2 Timothy 4:3
Simple answer is no unless you sleep around.
I think that you can sleep around too.
Discernment is valuable but still.
You're going off love of sin, not Bible.
So sayeth you@@UmamiPapi
@@UmamiPapi
What sin is that?
I'm not actually sexually active, so it's not that I can't control myself or that I'm some sort of sex addict, it just doesn't seem right to me that people should be shamed for something the Bible never condemns.
Here are some things taught from the pulpit: now where are these:
Denomination? Where is this?
Marriage license? Where is this?
Tithes? Where is this?
OT?
PASTOR being a j o b ?
This is not in the new testament: NT.
Sun day?
We are now part of His Family: where's church membership? Don't see this either.
The Earth is the Lord's n the Fullness there Of: now why am I told to give 10% He owns it All what does He need 10% for?
Where does it say: always obey the gov: it does not.
The 10 Comments covers it all: any questions?
College Degree?
Where is this is this, oh man's doing?
Big huge buildings? That's a numbers game this has nothing to do with The Creator.
Pastors should work in the real world, not sit in an office all day. They really have no idea how the world works.
All you get to do is listen to people grip n complain bout nothing. He will listen n give the same answer that he gave the last person he sat with.
501(c)3?
Where's this? Not in there.
Our Father is not a business, this is what man has turned it into, same as the old days.
Give me your money!
Sound familiar?
TBN is show business, false teachers take your pic?
Where is I must have children n a wife, that is how it works most of the time, but, not for all.
Sunday school? Where is this?
Find it not? Decon board: where's this?
The modern day church is no more than a business, people being asked to give: gime gime, gime?
His True Church is here, everyday people, the scope n structure of what we have been taught is wrong.
Do you Believe in what ya say?
Where are the Scriptures that speaks of what IV commented?
In The old Testament if you lay with a woman You were married in God's Eye's
The Bible never says that though, in fact Levitical Law specifically mentioned them separately.
Very good response with Bible verses. God bless you
None of those said premarital heterosexual sex is a sin. People try to lump premarital heterosexual sex with sexual immorality but it's not the bible is specific what sexual immorality is and premarital sex is not one of them.
@@granddaddyofthemall6320do you not know what fornication is?
@@DrDoerk It says sexual immorality, fornication is not mentioned as part of male and female sex fornication is about mixing with other nations and such.
You say, sex outside marriage is not mentioned in the bible? So what is the definition of fornicator, 1 Cor 6 9?
That's a mistranslation.
It hasn't been used in new English translations for almost a century.
***aAmen i would have avoided marriage if I would have not done the do....love the 2 children though
Many faithful servants of the Lord had multiple concubines/girlfriends to go into, including Priests. God gave them many beautiful women to delight in. (Abraham, King David and many more). Please check the bible and do not simply listen to what man says.
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These guys celebrated sex outside of marriage. And they were heroes of the faith. But that was all before God changed the rules.
King David also murdered a man. Just because God is using you for his greater glory doesn't mean your not human. Everyone human in the Bible except Jesus sinned and that doesn't mean its ok, it just means they were flawed like we are.
The Lord does not even mention sex between the unmarried. So why be troubled with another burden?@@mattr.1887
Remember, the Lord approved having additional wives/women. Kings were not allowed to have too many wives - "“And he shall not acquire many wives for himself, lest his heart turn away, nor shall he acquire for himself excessive silver and gold.” Deuteronomy 17:17"@@pickles8098
I’ll wait till marriage and ask for forgiveness considering my weddings next year most likely
God delights in any that turn from sin and put faith in Christ to be forgiven!
Sex is a sin if you are cheating your partner or the one you marry, and it is very hurtful even it is pay by karma
So what is the alternative for married men when their wives decide to stop having sex like so many married men report, you're taught in the church to wait till marriage for 6:00, only to end up being more celibate than you were when you were single SMH
If those Men cannot have another Women then I guess they can fondle the wife while the wife plays with something unspeakable. Aleast that's one solution.
Jesus says be ye perfect like your father in heaven is perfect
Fornication is sexual immorality which is idolatry
Isaiah 57
You have made your bed on a high and lofty hill;
there you went up to offer your sacrifices.
8 Behind your doors and your doorposts
you have put your pagan symbols.
Forsaking me, you uncovered your bed,
you climbed into it and opened it wide;
you made a pact with those whose beds you love,
and you looked with lust on their naked bodies.
9 You went to Molek with olive oil
and increased your perfumes.
You sent your ambassadors far away;
you descended to the very realm of the dead!
Sex before marriage is not even cited by God in scripture.
Exodus 22:16 KJV
[16] And if a man entice a maid that is not betrothed, and lie with her, he shall surely endow her to be his wife.
But this he did CITE
@@andrejones2147
Cool, but we’re not under Levitical Law.
@@Grokford There are Laws in Levitical law that apply, although that is somewhat less important, basically besides the 10 Commandments, keeping the Old Testament in mind, the New Testament teaches a form of virtue ethics, it teaches a virtue ethical framework, not a simply only a list of everything that is morally permissible and everything that is impermissible, it teaches someone what virtue looks like, what it is to be ethical in hopes to guide their future actions. A tenet of virtue ethics is that you have to study the circumstances in the natural world to know what the virtuous action to take will be, knowing natural facts is an important element for us to know how to act virtuously.
Premarital sex may be a sin, but if it's not it's certainly not virtuous nor good if you dont marry that person. If you read Exodus 22:16 KJV, it's obviously a bad thing to have sex with someone and not marry them, the Levitical application would have you marry that person, but as we are not under that law anymore, you would not be forced to marry her but that does NOT mean that it's not a sin nor not immoral. This is a case by case basis as there were also ritual laws, but the distinction is clear in biblical context, for example it was not wrong to eat certain foods because those foods were immoral, it was wrong to eat those foods because God told you not to at the time and it would be openly disobeying God, but it was wrong to have sex with a woman, defile her and not take responsibility because it was immoral. There is objectively nothing good about having sex and not marrying that person, but there are objective benefits to marrying that person, that is good.
Fornication....
Translation issue.@@DrDoerk
Take this video down, this is false teaching..
Cite scripture to debunk it , heretic.
Yes the bible DOES mention sex is a sin outside of marriage
Can you point where in the Bible?
I don't think it does, what passage are you talking about?
@@andreim5973
The word "fornication" is a mistranslation, it hasn't appeared in any modern English translation for almost a hundred years.
The English and Biblical definitions of sexual immorality AKA ( Adultery ) are different? The western Christian philosophy isn't the biblical way of marriage . And we wonder why there are so many broken homes and families nowadays, besides that point , we have a problem with submission of wifes because most have chosen western paganized philosophy over the word of the Highest. Sadly not many give God's way a chance.
"The English and Biblical definitions of sexual immorality AKA ( Adultery ) are different?"
Sexual immorality is more than just adultery.
"The western Christian philosophy isn't the biblical way of marriage ."
There is no biblical prescription for how marriage should be done.
" And we wonder why there are so many broken homes and families nowadays"
Yes, the atomization of society.
"we have a problem with submission of wifes because most have chosen western paganized philosophy over the word of the Highest."
That is not the problem.
Great job, very helpful
She’s repeating folk beliefs, it’s inaccurate theology.
Its always fascinating to see people seeing the absolute truth in books written 2 000 years ago back when about 1% of people knew how to read and to write.
and you got this data from where? You're making it seem like schools or any education is a 21st century discovery
Well said
It's a sin
Incorrect.
Sin is God telling us what is harmful to our soul.......he is saying keep away from Sin to live with peace of mind.......but if you do Sin he wants you to seek him out to get back the soulful peace of mind he wants you to have.......this doesnt apply to all.......some are just plain evil.......but if you slip he is there to pick us up if you will let him.......life here is a learning journey
Sure, but God never condemns pre-marital sex.
not what im saying......for me i wasnt into one night stands with chicks....had tons of opportunities but it wasnt my thing@@Grokford
Stop twisting scripture, look at the 10 commandments, yes it is certainly a major sin , end of
Truthfully having sex is the act of marriage...
That's not true, we wouldn't be having this discussion if it were true.
What demon possesses you to comment throughout this video encouraging sin? I rebuke you in Jesus' name!@@Grokford
@@UmamiPapi
I'm not encouraging sin, I'm not even encouraging sex.
I just don't see how sex and marriage can be considered equivalents.
This is informative for it to be wrong. Immorality includes homosexuality, incest and the woman’s inability to be loyal to her master and having urges that lead to adultery.
“Having urges” is not a sin, neither is homosexuality, neither is premarital sex.
Amen 🙏❤
I have had Sex before Marriage 💑, with my my previous relationships, in my 4 relationshipswith my previous/former girlfriends.Sexual Sin is one strong one
What is the sin?
Some marriages ,believe it or not,are created by God through home ceremonies and prayer and living together. No need of certificates on earth but it helps with splitting community property.Some marriages that we consider bethrothals are the marriage actually,and sometimes God doesnt intend for all marriages to continue for the whole mortal life.He often plans on us eventually remarrying but by His authority when that better someone will be given.
It is. It should be done only in marriage, which is what God designed it for.
That's folk belief, the Bible never says that.
@@Grokford Do you know what fornication and adultery are? The Bible says PLENTY about them. You need to re- read it some more.
It's sinful in how it can make you feel about each other. marriage used to be a commitment a sacred bond before God and man but has turned into a legal contract. somewhere along the line that punishs people .
It was always a legal contract.
The Bible never calls marriage a sacred bond.
We're not supposed to violate our commitments, that's true of all of them, not just marriage.
Fornication is a sin
No, the Bible never says that.
@@andreim5973
The word "fornication" is a mistranslation, it hasn't appeared in any modern English translation for almost a hundred years.
Premarital sex or “fornication” is wrong and a sin, even if you think you love the person, because you are still disrespecting the idea of marriage.
The Bible never condemns or prohibits pre-marital sex.
And it doesn’t disrespect marriage, what does that even mean.
Yes pre-marital sex is a sin and disrespects the idea of marriage. Have you not read the Bible or something? Because that’s literally what it says. God intended for sex to be marriage and reproductive purposes only. He also stated that “every man should have their own wife and every woman should have their own husband.” That means that He does prohibit pre-marital sex or “fornication”. It says that fornication is a sin and that includes sexual relationships with people before you are married, regardless of whether you think that you love the person and has a desire to eventually get married and have children, and definitely even more so outside of your marriage.
@@HeatherAngus-vj2jq
"Yes pre-marital sex is a sin"
According to whom?
By what authority?
For what reason?
Because you say so is not sufficient.
"and disrespects the idea of marriage."
I fail to see how.
In fact, from my perspective treating marriage is if it were the vehicle for sex is so ludicrous that it diminishes both marriage and sex.
"Have you not read the Bible or something?"
I have indeed, I have a degree in theology and I'm afraid that they don't give those out for being pretty.
"Because that’s literally what it says."
No. Incorrect.
The Bible literally never prohibits pre-marital sex. It makes maybe one specific allusion to it.
"God intended for sex to be marriage and reproductive purposes only."
The Bible definitely never says that.
Paul(in 1 Corinthians 7) referred to sexlessness in marriage as some sort of deprivation, so clearly sex involves some sort of mutual satisfaction apart from duty and reproduction.
"He also stated that “every man should have their own wife and every woman should have their own husband.”"
You might need to check your sources because it sounds like your misquoting from memory.
Paul explicitly states that remaining unmarried is preferable.
"Now to the unmarried a and the widows I say: It is good for them to stay unmarried, as I do."
1 Corinthians 7:8
"That means that He does prohibit pre-marital sex "
That does not follow, even if Paul said that people should be married, which he didn't, that doesn't mean that he things sex should be limited to marriage; that's an entirely new concept.
"It says that fornication is a sin and that includes sexual relationships with people before you are married"
The Bible never says this, you are applying a modern definition to a medieval word.
If you do insist on using five century old translations, please do consider learning more about the English of the period so you can avoid these blunders.
"regardless of whether you think that you love the person and has a desire to eventually get married and have children, and definitely even more so outside of your marriage."
These are all just your personal preference, it has nothing to do with the meaning of the word, it certainly has nothing to do with the scriptures.
Hebrews 13:4 “Marriage should be honored by all, and marriage bed kept pure, for God will judge both the adulterer and and all the sexually immoral.” What this is saying is that marriage and sexual intercourse only within marriage is honorable and any other types of sexual activity are condemned as immoral before God’s judgement.The Bible honors marriage and therefore it is strongly promoting abstinence before marriage. Before marriage, the couple have no binding Union and they have no sacred covenant without marriage vows and they therefore still don’t have the right to have sex without that. It’s more about just love but an official legal binding union and vows. And literally “according to whom”? And “by what authority”? Um…God Almighty’s say and authority. Several Biblical verses state exactly that. That sex before marriage is still a sin by God’s word and authority.
@@HeatherAngus-vj2jq
"Hebrews 13:4"
This passage does not mention pre-marital sex.
"What this is saying is that marriage and sexual intercourse only within marriage is honorable"
It literally does not say that, you are inserting your own biases.
"The Bible honors marriage and therefore it is strongly promoting abstinence before marriage."
That is not true, it is _you_ who are assuming that abstinence is the only morally correct way to honor a future marriage.
"Before marriage, the couple have no binding Union "
Yes, but somehow people date and meet one another anyways.
" and they have no sacred covenant without marriage vows"
Covenants are never described as part of marriage in scripture, and they are described separately from marriage.
This point doesn't make sense and it is irrelevant.
You don't need to be eternally bonded to someone to have sex with them.
"and they therefore still don’t have the right to have sex without that."
Adam and Eve never had a covenant or marriage vows and yet we all still got here.
and of course people can have the "right" to have sex, it's not granted by marriage, it's granted by the willingness of a partner.
You don't get to decide how other people behave.
"It’s more about just love but an official legal binding union and vows."
Yes, of course, duh.
Marriage is not sex, they do not operate by the same rule, they do not have the same effects.
You are the one trying to force them to be linked when they really aren't.
"And literally “according to whom”? And “by what authority”? Um…God Almighty’s say and authority."
No darling, everything that was said in support of your conclusion was said by you, not by God or scripture.
If you are unable to separate your personal opinion from God you should work on that.
"Several Biblical verses state exactly that."
No they don't. You are lying.
Because if any verse said "exactly that" you would have shown it already, instead of quoting what is essentially a random verse about marriage and then inventing a story about what it supposedly really means.
"That sex before marriage is still a sin by God’s word and authority."
You made it up.
You know that right?
This isn't God, this is at best your lack of reading comprehension.
You probably only inherited these ideas but they're not from the text and it's dishonest of your to say that they are.
It is a sin commited by 99% of Couples
Not all
@@betht7591 there goes that damned comment. I did say 99%!!!
You go girl!
Sexual intercourse is marriage!👉To the married I give this command (not I, but the Lord): A wife must not separate from her husband.(1 Corinthians 7:10) (If a man's wife isn't a virgin or widow, he is married to another man's wife!) 👉But Er, Judah’s firstborn, was wicked in the LORD’s sight; so the LORD put him to death.Then Judah said to Onan, “Sleep with your brother’s wife and fulfill your duty to her as a brother-in-law to raise up offspring for your brother.”
But Onan knew that the child would not be his; so whenever he slept with his brother’s wife, he spilled his semen on the ground to keep from providing offspring for his brother.What he did was wicked in the LORD’s sight; so the LORD put him to death also.(Genesis 38:7-10)
"Sexual intercourse is marriage!"
The Bible doesn't say that.
"A wife must not separate from her husband.(1 Corinthians 7:10)"
This is in a passage specifically regarding mixed faith marriages and requirements.
The same chapter says that the uncircumcised shouldn't be circumcised but that doesn't make circumcision a sin.
The passage is correcting misconceptions not laying out universal laws.
"(If a man's wife isn't a virgin or widow, he is married to another man's wife!)"
The Bible doesn't say that either.
"Then Judah said to Onan, “Sleep with your brother’s wife and fulfill your duty to her as a brother-in-law to raise up offspring for your brother.”"
This was in the context of ancient Hebrew family structure.
It doesn't even make sense outside of that.
Genesis chapter 38.