Is Gawr Gura the reason vtubers avoid becoming sharks?

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  • Опубліковано 26 сер 2024
  • Gawr Gura and her influence on the vtuber scene including why some vtubers might think twice before becoming a shark vtuber.
    gura: / @gawrgura
    #vtuber #vtuberen #anime

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  • @yowamidesu
    @yowamidesu Рік тому +10496

    The irony is, Gura likely did not get the choice to be a blue shark herself. It was almost certainly assigned to her.

    • @deadzerox7972
      @deadzerox7972 Рік тому +558

      I do believe that it is her choice or she influenced it. Her past persona was linked to her current form. just google or yt search is gura =sen~~~~ like finding easter eggs.

    • @Twisted_Jay
      @Twisted_Jay Рік тому +456

      Actually, the talent has very little, if any, say on the characters' appearance. Since Cover Corp is the parent company of Hololive, the company owns the character of Gawr Gura, and everything that the character is involved in, which includes all matter of merchandise, promotional artwork, etc. etc.
      It's mainly fans that call other VTubers that happen to be sharks or blue a "gura clone."

    • @FieryRainbow
      @FieryRainbow Рік тому +300

      ​@deadzerox7972 hololive models are created before the auditions. You can request tiny changes but not entire models

    • @antique6503
      @antique6503 Рік тому +166

      Yeah. It was revealed a while ago that she got to choose basically nothing about her model, not even her skin colour.

    • @Origin820
      @Origin820 Рік тому +56

      @@Twisted_Jaysome organisations let their talent choose their characters, probably less likely for hololive considering the monolith they are and I know some of their older and smaller generation talents don’t get a choice for certain, but there’s still a chance that holomyth got to choose.

  • @MightySquishy69
    @MightySquishy69 Рік тому +3611

    Hammerhead vtubers:
    👁 👄 👁

  • @NokoChan
    @NokoChan Рік тому +6064

    Yet there a hundreds of rabbit vTubers when there is an insanely iconic top rabbit.

    • @TechxGuyxJames
      @TechxGuyxJames Рік тому +781

      There are some rabbit vtubers who have had to deal with people calling them a "Pekora Clone", "Walmart Pekora", or "Bargain Pekora".
      Still sharktubers probably get it worse since anime sharkgirls are a lot more niche than rabbitgirls. Combine that with Gura's massive success, it's easy to see why people automatically make comparisons whether or not it's fair.

    • @-trinity-3732
      @-trinity-3732 Рік тому +159

      yess lopi and pekora and others

    • @GTA_500
      @GTA_500 Рік тому +375

      They are all Pippa wannabes.

    • @blheu
      @blheu Рік тому +343

      ​@@GTA_500pippa is pippa wannabe

    • @destrelyascorner4968
      @destrelyascorner4968 Рік тому +21

      Well who cares about Pekora she cant speak english anyways *FLUENT* . PLUS RATIO PLUS PERIOD PLUS im jokin.

  • @delphy2478
    @delphy2478 Рік тому +2402

    the really sad thing is that gura clearly doesn't care, and doesn't try to start any of it, it's just a bunch of jerks on the internet

    • @passintogracegoldenyearnin6310
      @passintogracegoldenyearnin6310 Рік тому +210

      To the contrary there have been plenty of times that she encouraged viewers to check out other channels and give new streamers a chance.

    • @Johan-eg4in
      @Johan-eg4in Рік тому +70

      @@SymmbolZS The 'jerk' comment is clearly not about Gura, but the people making the comparisons.

    • @blizzard1198
      @blizzard1198 Рік тому +5

      Hearing someone talk about "jerks" on the internet is hilarious😂.

    • @freddyready8756
      @freddyready8756 Рік тому +3

      Not jerks, just that gura is on peoples mind and not being a jerk about it. Overshadowed by the gura vibe, but is not bad that people can find their own vibe with something similar.

    • @frostedlambs
      @frostedlambs Рік тому +29

      ​@@freddyready8756calling someone a gura clone is being a jerk especially when they act like gura owns the color blue even if she doenst care or encourage it

  • @Zapatote
    @Zapatote Рік тому +195

    No one hurts the vtuber community more than vtuber fans

    • @TheFlameHaze1
      @TheFlameHaze1 Рік тому +8

      Maybe if V-Tubing wasn't heavily reliant on being weeb bait it wouldn't attract weeb cancer.

    • @tahutagaol9186
      @tahutagaol9186 9 місяців тому

      As if u know sh*t

    • @aoihitori
      @aoihitori 8 місяців тому +2

      No different from Anime fans. Downbad sociopath weebs made it a terrible place.

    • @Randomwhateva
      @Randomwhateva 7 місяців тому

      Yeah lol I m just a enjoyer tbh I don't give a shit if someone has a shark as a avatar and if u do give a shit yeah go seek some therapy and contemplate life on a grassy mountain

  • @HyattHyatt3179
    @HyattHyatt3179 Рік тому +1659

    It's getting to such a ridiculous level with the Gura copy accusations that some vtubers have banned the words Gura, Gawr, and Gawr Gura in any combination in their chat, because people would spam them with "You look like Gura, you copied her!!" and stuff like that.
    I know Yuko Yurei had troubles with that during her first streams and a bit during her debut, despite them having two vastly different themes.
    Also Gura baerly uses her hood anymore so I don't understand why every vtuber with a hoodie is a Gura clone

    • @akira8393
      @akira8393 Рік тому +4

      can i find them?

    • @HyattHyatt3179
      @HyattHyatt3179 Рік тому +104

      @@akira8393 The vtubers who had to ban "Gura" in chat? Yeah. It's Yuko Yurei from idol-en and I think Rin Penrose Idol-en banned it during her ikea shark stream

    • @akira8393
      @akira8393 Рік тому +2

      @@HyattHyatt3179I'm just curious, do they mention it or tell people thwy are Banning tge word?

    • @MrSplicer3
      @MrSplicer3 Рік тому +36

      @@akira8393 Yuko has a whole short on it.

    • @akira8393
      @akira8393 Рік тому +9

      @@MrSplicer3 yeah i found it from the recommendations but to be honest i can see why people would call a gura clone

  • @Rquincris
    @Rquincris Рік тому +2179

    And just FYI its not Gura's Fault.. Its the "Fans" who acts like they own Gura because they pay money..

    • @Unshatter
      @Unshatter Рік тому +65

      The fans have nothing better to do since she doesn’t stream.

    • @nathanael9159
      @nathanael9159 Рік тому +100

      False "fans" of Gura.

    • @nathanael9159
      @nathanael9159 Рік тому +86

      ​@@UnshatterIt was explain why. I'm a Gura fan and yet, i don't do such stupid things...

    • @NihongoWakannai
      @NihongoWakannai Рік тому

      lol no, you think people who are simping for gura are gonna waste time going to other streamers?
      It's literally just dumb children who say that stuff to other streamers. That's why it's always about gura, because she's the most famous and well known amongst children.

    • @xogeneral1512
      @xogeneral1512 Рік тому +2

      @@nathanael9159 why? im a gura fan its our duty to do a crusade on those gura clones

  • @yagamikirizuch
    @yagamikirizuch Рік тому +378

    ... by far if you're a shark or even aquatic vtuber,
    **Kobo enter the chat**

    • @stygiandragon3865
      @stygiandragon3865 Рік тому +14

      At least Kobo has Calli and Kiara(?) Behind her back

    • @rRekko
      @rRekko Рік тому +47

      Doesn't apply inside the same company, as people don't compare kobo or chloe to gura. Oh and not enough people care or know about chloe being an orca and comparing her to lily. In fact, i suspect it's holo fans comparing everyone else to hololive, creating lots of awkward moments for vtubers.

    • @traphimawari7760
      @traphimawari7760 Рік тому +18

      Kobo, Chloe, Ina, Bao, Shylily, etc. they can keep adding aquatic theme vtubers and they still won't be overshadowed by Gura. Its not a matter of vtubers being overshadowed by outside factors because people who associate aquatic vtubers only think of Gura which is a bs notion to begin with, its a matter of confidence by the individual themselves to pull off the aquatic theme vtuber and to immerse themselves and enjoy, you don't have to compete there are literally thousands of fishes in the ocean and you can be one of them much like Gura don't blame it on her just because she is a shark, simply be a better fish and try to live out your life in the ocean of vtubing

    • @ManusiaKagakRusuh
      @ManusiaKagakRusuh Рік тому

      Meanwhile Finana become too -Yabe- menacing to be compared to Gura ...

    • @rRekko
      @rRekko Рік тому +12

      @@traphimawari7760 i doubt anyone blames it on her, in fact Gura herself doesn't care about other girls being sharks either.
      It's always people who like to troll and socially inept ones who can't behave properly. It's sad yes, but that's that, nothing we can really do about it other than being nice to people who are nice with us.

  • @ignizxnr3021
    @ignizxnr3021 Рік тому +383

    And then people hate on gura like she's the one hating on others

    • @passintogracegoldenyearnin6310
      @passintogracegoldenyearnin6310 Рік тому +72

      Sad because she consistently tells people to give new channels a fair chance and watch one of their streams. Having been on the platform for more than a decade she knows the pain of starting at the bottom.

    • @ameries147
      @ameries147 Рік тому +8

      No, they dont hate gura but gura's fanbase

    • @ignizxnr3021
      @ignizxnr3021 Рік тому

      @@ameries147 they do hate her, some people legit talk shit to her cause of it because their pea brains cant understand its the fanbase

    • @alchemysaga3745
      @alchemysaga3745 Рік тому +31

      ​@@ameries147Uh, no. There's a not insignificant number of people who blame Gura for the stupidity of her viewers.

    • @angelredvivar
      @angelredvivar Рік тому +3

      @@alchemysaga3745
      Can agree, there are some SUS ones

  • @TerraHv1
    @TerraHv1 Рік тому +38

    Which is really sad because I'm sure Gura would love some more sharky friends

  • @Ictams
    @Ictams Рік тому +443

    The vtuber in the vids (thats not gawr or marine)
    MegalodonVT
    Yuko Yurei
    ShyLily
    Rei Bubbles
    Artemis
    Rei Bubbles (again 'pic')

    • @cousinpizza6958
      @cousinpizza6958 Рік тому +13

      Thank you very much sir

    • @mcdoogle_robotman
      @mcdoogle_robotman Рік тому +8

      Thank you king.

    • @themikeandike3862
      @themikeandike3862 Рік тому +8

      You dropped this👑

    • @mercer5706
      @mercer5706 Рік тому +3

      Thanks!

    • @passintogracegoldenyearnin6310
      @passintogracegoldenyearnin6310 Рік тому

      Artemis may have been a horrible accident but Yuko and Shy definitely did it to themselves. Yuko billed heself as a big fan, tried to buy membership and chum-up with goober's chat. Shy copied the 'shrimp' motif wholesale and even parroted last year's tweet from the shork's old twitter account.
      There is a kind of tribalism where fans love it when someone like Fauna heaps praise on the gremlin, but if an outsider does it they smell chum in the water.

  • @bandage-wasting-machine533
    @bandage-wasting-machine533 Рік тому +107

    I remember my friend's reaction when Gura debuted. He had the idea of being a shark vtuber for a while. He was actually pretty successful, though he stopped vtubing after a year.

  • @bobowon5450
    @bobowon5450 Рік тому +134

    what boggles my mind is when people say this is a bad thing. I like gura, more gura inspired vtubers is good, give me more of the thing i like.

    • @TheGamerboy1103
      @TheGamerboy1103 Рік тому +5

      It's when they DON'T HAVE INSPIRATION FROM HER and when people BREAK CHAT RULES CONSTANTLY. That was so far over your head you couldn't catch it if you jumped

    • @bobowon5450
      @bobowon5450 Рік тому +20

      @TheGamerboy1103 ironically you've wildly missed what I was referring to. I understand why people don't want her talked about it chat, that's not what I'm talking about. What I mean is when people get mad at someone for being similar to gura, inspired or not

    • @electroslimeEN
      @electroslimeEN Рік тому +16

      it becomes a bad thing when some many shark vtubers have been spammed with death threats to change their skins lol

    • @bobowon5450
      @bobowon5450 Рік тому +12

      @@electroslimeEN that's the thing i'm saying is a bad thing. I don't get why they are so mad at more sharks if they supposedly like the loli shark. more shark good, no need for threats.

    • @electroslimeEN
      @electroslimeEN Рік тому +12

      @@bobowon5450 its a common byproduct of behaviour due to psychological tactics in the idol industry (which companies like these emulate) vtuber fans are very similar to kpop stans

  • @polarknight5376
    @polarknight5376 Рік тому +85

    I wonder if there was a shark vtuber that existed before gura and what horrific thimgs happened to them.

    • @oliveralfonsino8126
      @oliveralfonsino8126 Рік тому

      theres one i forgot the name but she have a black hair

    • @oliveralfonsino8126
      @oliveralfonsino8126 Рік тому +11

      artemis i think

    • @polarknight5376
      @polarknight5376 Рік тому

      @@krioque people have been bullied into suicide for less, and Gura fans are exactly the types to bully people into suicide, and celebrate when it happens.

    • @polarknight5376
      @polarknight5376 Рік тому +37

      @@krioque found the sociopathic gura fan

    • @polarknight5376
      @polarknight5376 Рік тому +40

      @@krioque wow, seek therapy.

  • @somedude1529
    @somedude1529 Рік тому +23

    Imagine getting called a Gura clone for being blue

  • @demoneon9527
    @demoneon9527 Рік тому +6

    Note to self become shark vtuber to spite those viewers

  • @thegraveyardgeek7770
    @thegraveyardgeek7770 Рік тому +18

    And you know darn well gura wishes it would stop. I'm sure she'd love some sharky friends.

  • @notinusesoon4975
    @notinusesoon4975 5 місяців тому +3

    that is why when you grow bigger, you get mods to ban troublesome people from your chat, you don't need them tainting your name down the road, and you are better off without them

  • @tunafllsh
    @tunafllsh Рік тому +105

    You don't need anything. Just be a Vtuber and people will ask "Do you know Gawr Gura?"

    • @passintogracegoldenyearnin6310
      @passintogracegoldenyearnin6310 Рік тому +2

      Easiest answer: She has been 100% Hololive-only with no outside collabs and no public conversations on social media.

    • @tunafllsh
      @tunafllsh Рік тому +1

      @@passintogracegoldenyearnin6310 lol interesting observation

    • @adlindorsal9877
      @adlindorsal9877 Рік тому +1

      I would say that's true for those who follow the Vtuber scene in general, but I feel like it depends on the platform. UA-cam and Twitch have very different audiences, in my opinion. People in Twitch would probably recognize Ironmouse more.

    • @tunafllsh
      @tunafllsh Рік тому +6

      @@adlindorsal9877 I think twitch peep also know the Gura meme

    • @wildkaya643
      @wildkaya643 Рік тому +1

      This is true for any big vtuber in my experience. Annoying fans/kids that go around asking everyone if they know their favorite vtuber, and that's all they'll talk about. Saw it a million times when Shylily blew up, same with Filian, and same with Neuro, just for recent examples.

  • @EleosAnim
    @EleosAnim Рік тому +9

    Kronii: ah yes i'm blue lady

  • @thealmightypuht.a.p.
    @thealmightypuht.a.p. Рік тому +64

    This is sad because Gura is the most wholesome Vtuber out there.

    • @BringerOfD
      @BringerOfD Рік тому +10

      Wholesome? Are we watching the same vtuber?

    • @thealmightypuht.a.p.
      @thealmightypuht.a.p. Рік тому +30

      @@BringerOfD yup. She literally encourages people to try out other channels. This behavior is literally the antithesis of what she advocates for.

    • @LibraritheWizardOfficial
      @LibraritheWizardOfficial Рік тому +16

      ​@@BringerOfDWhat they mean is that she isn't toxic or mean or otherwise negative. She's really not "the most" wholesome, though, not by far.

    • @angelredvivar
      @angelredvivar Рік тому +2

      @@LibraritheWizardOfficial
      Exactly

    • @chazeverett
      @chazeverett Рік тому +4

      @@LibraritheWizardOfficial wholesome deff isnt the right word for gura ya she isnt toxic but wholesome deff wasnt the right word for that she was literally crawling on the ground looking up the other girls skirts lol

  • @purplelord8531
    @purplelord8531 Рік тому +3

    glad to see an Artemis of the Blue clip here, one of the best models with one of the most fun and unique streamer personalities of all time, yet nobody knows her

  • @JustDevon1
    @JustDevon1 Рік тому +6

    We as humans seem to have this tendency to compare and contrast things, even when the things in question, barely have anything in common

  • @kaitotatsuya
    @kaitotatsuya Рік тому +8

    I'm still waiting for my Tuna VTuber

  • @darkursrike3161
    @darkursrike3161 Рік тому +10

    I think that's gonna happen every time with everything.
    Don't stop, push through and hope for the best.

  • @PROJEKT_R3D
    @PROJEKT_R3D Рік тому +6

    That's it, we need a blob fish vtuber

  • @XxLUIGIxX56
    @XxLUIGIxX56 Рік тому +14

    I know it's not intentional and I'm sure Gura herself doesn't mind other aquatic/blue Vtubers but the internet is wierd. I remember Yuko talking about why she would have to ban the word Gura just because of the hate she received even though she is a Gura fan herself

    • @Blind_Smithy
      @Blind_Smithy Рік тому +1

      What i dont get is why people bother caring about the hate they receive, like bruh just acknowledge its some sad low life and let them mald its funny

    • @ForgedinPrint
      @ForgedinPrint Рік тому +3

      ​@@Blind_Smithything is, if you're looking for a conversation in and all you see is either another vtuber or just hate speech, gets pretty annoying.
      Its more quantity than anything else. One or two, sure can be ignored. Hundreds? Yeah thats a problem.

    • @aoihitori
      @aoihitori 8 місяців тому +1

      ​@@Blind_Smithyin other words it is called toxic. You'll be bothered as well if that criticism was towards you.

  • @ymir4552
    @ymir4552 Рік тому +44

    There will be a day when we will make a Shark Squad for a fps game or any other game. Mark my words.

    • @ArjunTheRageGuy
      @ArjunTheRageGuy 2 місяці тому

      Maybe even a shark game inspired by the shark games of Wiesi or Mausland on Newgrounds such as Miami Shark and Medieval Shark, but with shark vtuber content in it.

  • @ShadowCatGaming26
    @ShadowCatGaming26 Рік тому +22

    There is a reason some people called her the Apex Predator of the Ocean

  • @sheanliesirani7551
    @sheanliesirani7551 20 днів тому

    That "A" is so powerful.

  • @adlindorsal9877
    @adlindorsal9877 Рік тому +2

    While there might be some truth to this, I believe people can stand out in there own way if their personality is strong enough. At the end of the day, personality > Vtuber model.

    • @passintogracegoldenyearnin6310
      @passintogracegoldenyearnin6310 Рік тому

      One in a million leaves a lot of bodies on the shore....like they say if you go to Hollywood and get a job at a restaurant, you're already more successful than the ones who were forced to go home.

  • @gavinkemp7920
    @gavinkemp7920 Рік тому +6

    To be honest why are not, list random animals here, vtubers. There are thousands of different animals and moving away from the common pets like rabbits, dogs and cats you are going to reach for more of a niche. The odds are more likely inversed, their is an un expected number of shark and aquatic themed vtubers because of gura.

  • @TheTSense
    @TheTSense Рік тому +4

    For some reason, water themed vtubers just go better than any other

  • @boredshadow
    @boredshadow 6 місяців тому +1

    Here's the real question which one of them would win a fight

  • @x___________________
    @x___________________ Рік тому +1

    This is normal it happens in literally every entertainment industry if something is incredibly popular and something seems somewhat similar people start comparing

  • @wanster2010
    @wanster2010 Рік тому +5

    This is one situation I'm afraid of while conceptualizing my debut (using an alternate username and email for privacy reasons.)
    I actually had a shark oc that i was gonna use to do vtubing long before gura even debuted. I had this idea back when Kizuna Ai was starting to bring popularity to the trend, and i never really had the funds or circumstances to make this thing happen until just a few years back.
    However, thanks to gura's popularity, my orginal idea of being a shark vtuber is now completely gone and i fear I'll just be looked at as another clone. I'm not too sure what to do at this point, since all the conceptualizations and art are already set in stone..

    • @justadude8365
      @justadude8365 Рік тому +2

      how about a sea cucumber i bet there's no one using that as avatar

    • @passintogracegoldenyearnin6310
      @passintogracegoldenyearnin6310 Рік тому +4

      You need to live without comparing yourself to her. Like she said "At some just stop giving a damn, and your life will improve."

    • @ultimatevexation8782
      @ultimatevexation8782 Рік тому +2

      try other fish? or change color palette? is your personality gremlinish? try to not look like her. or push through and hope for success

    • @ForgedinPrint
      @ForgedinPrint Рік тому

      The internet is for the most part people always copying others, with twists. Just be yourself and if anyone complains about it, just point out its who you are and you like sharks.
      Just blacklist the name before they get a chance to say it, and you should be good.

  • @paperbag4477
    @paperbag4477 Рік тому +6

    Gura is like the pewdiepie of vtubers. Anything close to him is a clone.

  • @blasphemousperson2837
    @blasphemousperson2837 Рік тому +2

    Artemis is chill tho

  • @jecaephtead101
    @jecaephtead101 Рік тому +1

    If you search deeper, cowboy is the answer.

  • @donovanmoran7937
    @donovanmoran7937 Рік тому +6

    "oh you are a catgirl? yOu ArE CoPyInG *******"
    Mostly the single people nobody likes because they find something to complain about, always

    • @passintogracegoldenyearnin6310
      @passintogracegoldenyearnin6310 Рік тому +1

      Funny you mention that one, because people have frequently been caught tracing over someone else's crappy catgirl OC. The difference is that most of this shallow human behavior involves 2views. Shit surrounding the shork is amplified by the huge difference in visibility and the way that others turn her into some kind of symbol. Woman just wants to make some content and fuck around.

    • @donovanmoran7937
      @donovanmoran7937 Рік тому +3

      @@passintogracegoldenyearnin6310 that's the important part, have fun.
      There are many catgirls (using it as a standard) in anime or games and 2d or 3d models that can be used as a base so unless any1 track it down to the first one then there is no copying one or another

    • @passintogracegoldenyearnin6310
      @passintogracegoldenyearnin6310 Рік тому +1

      @@donovanmoran7937 Well yes but that would be sane thinking.

  • @Dr_Monitor
    @Dr_Monitor Рік тому +6

    If you're a shark you're Gura, if you're an orca you're Shylily, if you're a moth you're Juniper, and if you're a cat you're Nyanners. People have trouble seeing past a basic pattern, and it creates a lot of headaches both for vtubers and longtime fans.

    • @passintogracegoldenyearnin6310
      @passintogracegoldenyearnin6310 Рік тому +2

      Koyori has already stolen Pink Cat branding away from Nyanners, she's been doing super well for herself.

    • @pancakes8816
      @pancakes8816 9 місяців тому +1

      ​@@passintogracegoldenyearnin6310 good, I'm not sure why anyone would want to copy nyanners of all people

  • @Kappa-2713
    @Kappa-2713 8 місяців тому +1

    I love the
    *”a”*

  • @NanobanaKinako
    @NanobanaKinako 8 місяців тому +1

    It's the fan's fault for thinking Gura owns her theme.

  • @bluecoin3771
    @bluecoin3771 Рік тому +30

    To be compared to the greatest of all time is a great honor.

    • @akira8393
      @akira8393 Рік тому +9

      but being call a cheap copy is oof

    • @Crimsom44203
      @Crimsom44203 Рік тому

      Based

    • @xnonsense5171
      @xnonsense5171 Рік тому +1

      Stream 3-4 times a month. “GOAT”💀💀

    • @passintogracegoldenyearnin6310
      @passintogracegoldenyearnin6310 Рік тому +1

      @@akira8393 Do you know how many brands began as cheap copies and grew to dominate a market? What they need is determination and creativity, they can't let the comparison live rent-free in their heads.

    • @akira8393
      @akira8393 Рік тому +1

      @@passintogracegoldenyearnin6310 i mean the saying goes, for every masterpiece there's gonna be a cheap copy... i am more than open to find unique vtubers but most usually copies of one after another.

  • @insa9026
    @insa9026 Рік тому +5

    Shy lily is an orca......... Or a dolphin with war crimes in mind but super horny in her case

    • @Blind_Smithy
      @Blind_Smithy Рік тому +4

      Shylily has never been attacked by gura fans but was attacked by Veibei iirc and by Vei's fans

    • @insa9026
      @insa9026 Рік тому +1

      @@Blind_Smithy eh no, that's not what I mean but ok, I was mentioning that she is not a shark but an Orca

  • @bananadaily2317
    @bananadaily2317 9 місяців тому +2

    i guess sharks irl are gura clones

  • @DigDig_1999
    @DigDig_1999 9 днів тому

    Your character looks like a smol xingqui and I'm loving that :D

  • @nickmilo932
    @nickmilo932 Рік тому +7

    Yooo haven't heard of Artemis in so long

  • @coopertalley6140
    @coopertalley6140 Рік тому +8

    Never heard Shylily be called that, fucking love her

    • @passintogracegoldenyearnin6310
      @passintogracegoldenyearnin6310 Рік тому

      I'd never go to her stream to cause trouble but she is a dark and awful creature. Blocking her and her main clippers was enough.

    • @icebox1954
      @icebox1954 Рік тому +4

      Shylily has the best rig that I've seen so far.
      Her avatar is so much smoother than most and she's really good at using it too.
      She's the only Vtuber that conveys the real anime girl concept even though she behaviourally the opposite.

  • @johnbobtailsquib3290
    @johnbobtailsquib3290 Рік тому +1

    Honestly I hate when people called someone a clone just cause they have the same taste as their favorite person. And some comments point out Gura probably didn't even choose to be a shark and was more likely assign to it. Never would I call someone a clone for having same taste

  • @LegendaryHeroponRiki
    @LegendaryHeroponRiki 11 днів тому

    its hard to come with a good character idea when most of them are taken already

  • @AerynO.
    @AerynO. Рік тому +44

    that's sad, Vtubers community can be the best but at the same time the worst. I suppose a lot of these dramas are started by people who worship Gura.
    I can't understand how is it possible to be attached THAT much to a streamer

    • @yowamidesu
      @yowamidesu Рік тому +11

      While statistically there are bound to be some that "worship" Gura, I surmise the majority are the type that love hanging out on Twitter and are types that are jealous of people with any modicum of success.

    • @codename9580
      @codename9580 Рік тому +12

      Why not study the psychology of parasocial relationship I think you will find the answer.

    • @blakev.4540
      @blakev.4540 Рік тому +5

      It's not that bad. Gosh. Just ban the word gura on chat and that's it.

    • @fadlanfadilah1171
      @fadlanfadilah1171 Рік тому +2

      nah, it is not vtuber community, it just gura fans.

    • @dereenaldoambun9158
      @dereenaldoambun9158 Рік тому +4

      You could ask the same why some people attached to Pewdiepie, Markiplier, Dream, etc.
      It's just freaking simple: Parasocial relationship

  • @rexhopchannel94
    @rexhopchannel94 Рік тому +3

    Just enjoy the show

  • @rustyfelongco5990
    @rustyfelongco5990 Рік тому +2

    Shylily,Mega,Bao and many other aquatic vtubers are consider Guras Neighbors.

  • @cryptidian3530
    @cryptidian3530 Рік тому

    Imitation is the highest form of flattery. People draw inspiration from everywhere.

  • @Darkstormsun9865
    @Darkstormsun9865 Рік тому +4

    Damn so this is the toxic side of vtuber community huh. Feel like most of them arent even gura fans.

    • @ForgedinPrint
      @ForgedinPrint Рік тому

      Every fandom has that 1 to 2 percent who are toxic. They just dont understand that being toxic does nothing good for anyone.

  • @Gravedigger933
    @Gravedigger933 Рік тому +4

    There is only one SHORK!

  • @pumpkinking6660
    @pumpkinking6660 Рік тому +2

    I wanna pet one of these god damn fish so fucking bad

  • @canadiangopnik7007
    @canadiangopnik7007 Рік тому +2

    Goomba is too stronk

  • @saphironkindris
    @saphironkindris Рік тому +1

    I get it, 'the ocean' is associated with the colour blue, so it's a tempting colour combination to go with, but to be fair, there have been other vtubers that have also tried to go with the smol blue shark/ocean creature motif and it's.... well, Gura doesn't own the concept, but it seems awfully coincidental that they're choosing a lot of the same themes as the most popular vtuber in the world and not a lesser known more unique concept, or without even their own unique twist on it.

  • @thefrancix9316
    @thefrancix9316 Рік тому +18

    Who is the one with the dark blue shark hoodie?

  • @crazy961234
    @crazy961234 Рік тому +6

    Personally I don't mind Vtubers be looking like Gooba. Heck anyone can be Gooba but not anyone can be THE Gooba.

  • @blooddrop6599
    @blooddrop6599 Рік тому +2

    I don't think anybody's really a clone the only thing I think of when I see people that are sharks is how can I get them head touch and squeeze their cheeks and kiss their foreheads goodnight giving them a great big hug I love cute stuff because everything is adorable

  • @Satoraido
    @Satoraido Рік тому +1

    Own it, be blue, be shark, you know what might aswell name urself barl bura why not, I call it referencing with close detail

  • @JuminTTwTT
    @JuminTTwTT Рік тому +26

    I meannn. Didnt the explosion of massive indie vtubes were caused by gura and them 😂

    • @cheekclapper2097
      @cheekclapper2097 Рік тому +4

      And? Thats enough reason to harass other vtubers?

    • @daaringasai666
      @daaringasai666 Рік тому +9

      If we go to those extremes then may as well say that every Vtuber is just a copy of Kizuna Ai 🗿

    • @passintogracegoldenyearnin6310
      @passintogracegoldenyearnin6310 Рік тому +4

      @@daaringasai666 You're not completely wrong. That comparison was often made. But then a new symbol took her place. Funny thing is how pathetically shallow people are, Pekora and Miko might be much more influential than Gura in the JP vtubing sphere and their view counts are excellent. This is mostly a bunch of EN casuals trying to manipulate western vTubing fandom for their own entertainment. Gura's just the brand being used as a strawman.

    • @wildkaya643
      @wildkaya643 Рік тому

      No, I wouldn't say so. I'm sure they helped, but the indie vtuber explosion started before HoloEN all debuted. If you watched Twitch, the indie vtuber scene started blowing up months beforehand.
      That's when the likes of the VShojo members viewer-counts blew up, like Ironmouse and Nyanners shooting from just around 100 viewers, to thousands, and steadily grew from there, similar happening to the rest of the group, leading to them all founding VShojo the month before HoloEN debuted.
      The real cause of it all, was COVID. Everyone was stuck in their houses with nothing to do, so we all just sat on the internet. That led many to just watching streamers or even becoming one themselves, and eventually coming across vtubers and getting sucked in as it was such a new and interesting thing.

  • @hal1072
    @hal1072 Рік тому +14

    that shows how great gura is, props to all the clones tho we all love gura 💙

    • @angelredvivar
      @angelredvivar Рік тому +1

      Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery
      But fr tho, clone or not, respect to the them

  • @snooks5607
    @snooks5607 Рік тому +2

    every first person shooter game was called a "doom-clone" for 10-15 years after release of doom

    • @passintogracegoldenyearnin6310
      @passintogracegoldenyearnin6310 Рік тому

      Same as with souls-like and metroidvania. Also note there were "good" and "bad" games in those categories. Excessive harassment is super bad but more people will lose in entertainment than succeed.

  • @KenanVonKaiser
    @KenanVonKaiser Рік тому +2

    Or A Goomba Vtuber!

  • @gonderage
    @gonderage Рік тому +3

    Gura is like the Re:Zero Rem of hololive. She's such an economic powerhouse of the franchise, that she could be distinguished as a separate entity

  • @HunterOcelot27
    @HunterOcelot27 Рік тому +26

    Simply a futile imitation of Her Highness 🅱️in 🅱️enrose, the 🅱️lahaj Prince Royal

  • @SirFailsalot91
    @SirFailsalot91 Рік тому +2

    "There's only seven stories and they've all been told already."
    There's only so many concepts in the world that exist and the majority of them have already been adopted as a Vtuber model at this point, so overlap is going to happen and it's pretty much unavoidable - as long as you make your persona unique and you're not just cloning someone else's model to intentionally trick viewers, that's what should matter.
    I doubt Gura is being kept up at night about other people having shark Vtuber models, the only people who care are the rabid fans who are addicted to Hololive and are the ones most likely to take such an issue with someone using an animal or a character trope already assigned to a Vtuber they like that they spam that "copycat" with hate messages, and those are the folks we really shouldn't be giving the time of day to.
    There's nothing wrong with having a shark or whale or orca or anything else as the design for your Vtuber model if it looks unique and identifiable from a line-up, and anyone who does think it's a problem and makes it their hill to die on is making a mountain out of a molehill.

  • @darkrite9000
    @darkrite9000 Рік тому +1

    I wouldn't mind there being other shark vtubers or the like, I mean I love Shylily (not a shark but eh), and yes Gura is the most popular vtuber in the world, doesn't mean we can't have other shark or fish themed vtubers. I love Gura, and many other vtubers, they're all very fun to watch. What I think is most important is the personality of a vtuber, rather than just their design, Gura's design is cute yes, but her personality is what makes her so beloved.

  • @Elkanimates
    @Elkanimates Рік тому +5

    Who are some of these Vtubers?

  • @nutbreaker211
    @nutbreaker211 Рік тому +6

    Well it doesn't work for kobo tho, that kid is really something😂

  • @fole0910
    @fole0910 Рік тому +1

    actually there is a lemon shark vtuber in korea called syamei

  • @herbderbler1585
    @herbderbler1585 Рік тому +2

    "...until the end of time."
    Nah. Gura will probably get tired of this whole vtuber thing in another 9000 years or so.

  • @gregorh.3919
    @gregorh.3919 Рік тому +4

    Shylily isn't a Gura clone. Lily is so awesome. Just like Gura. They're both unique and awesome. And even if someone says Lily's a clone, that one has no idea then. If there're VTubers who say "I stopped being an aquatic VTuber because of Gura" it actually means "I stopped because I can't handle people telling me I'm just a copycat"

  • @brettstover1850
    @brettstover1850 Рік тому +4

    I love Yuko. She definitely Not a gura clone. 😢

  • @LauLessPariah
    @LauLessPariah Рік тому +2

    Its 100% just children doing that. Gura is a popular vtuber especially with children. Theres a ton of rabbit vtubers despite the most iconic rabbit vtuber Pekora being around and they arent really called Pekora clones because Pekora isnt all that popular with kids.

  • @heavenbounddeath32
    @heavenbounddeath32 6 місяців тому +1

    Here's the hole in that theory though, both bao and shylily hit just about every checkpoint on that list and I have yet to hear anyone call them or compare them to gura.

  • @lorde0147
    @lorde0147 Рік тому +3

    & this frankly speaks volumes of the charisma of Gura, if you know of her you're constantly reminded of her when you see shark, blue or sea creatures.
    Love it or hate it, ever since the mainstream west became aware of Vtubers, they did as they do & Goku the shit out of it...
    "what's that, a lazer beam from the hands, It's clearly a Kamehameha, & nothing else"
    Kind of like how it is with lightsabers the game may call it something else for legal reasons but everyone will refer to it as a lightsaber.
    Why because that is our benchmark/ reference.
    Ok mini rant over lol.

  • @ZOMBIEGUNPOWDER
    @ZOMBIEGUNPOWDER Рік тому +3

    Damn, sounds like lack of skill.

  • @la8ball
    @la8ball Рік тому +2

    The thing about Gura is that she made an iconic character. To me, she similar to DeeDee from Dexter Lab.

  • @autobotCRSHR
    @autobotCRSHR 7 місяців тому +1

    If I ever do Vtubing, ima try my hand at being a shork... At least once, because i have the perfect idea for a model...

  • @Zalazaar
    @Zalazaar Рік тому +7

    Yea just a total coincidence they all just started popping up then, lol get real

    • @dereenaldoambun9158
      @dereenaldoambun9158 Рік тому +2

      Also why just sharks?
      There are many more cool sea creatures out there; orca, whale, swordfish, dolphin, octopus, etc.

    • @cortesyes
      @cortesyes Рік тому +8

      @@dereenaldoambun9158Shylily is an orcat (orca+cat), megalodonTV is a megalodon, rei bubbles is a stingray. Don’t know about the others, but there are also hammerhead shark vtubers and such. It’s not so different from all those cat, rabbit, fox, etc. vtubers, you may argue that those also copied from big vtubers, but what’s the point? The looks attract the views, but it’s the person behind the avatar that makes them stay. As long as the avatar is not literally the same for copyright reasons, I think the creators themselves (gura included) don’t really care if the theme of the avatar is pretty much the same, especially considering that these models are just given to them and they have to fit into the character

    • @passintogracegoldenyearnin6310
      @passintogracegoldenyearnin6310 Рік тому

      @@cortesyes She certainly wants more vTubers in the market.

  • @ShuRA-007
    @ShuRA-007 7 місяців тому +1

    you forget about Kobo which is blue and the same as kusogaki as Gura, and Kobo is kinda identic with water (rain shaman)
    in the other side Pekora, she's also blue and nearly the same as kusogaki
    don't forget about Shylily, she's also an aquatic vtuber and Apex Predator in the oceans too
    well i don't know about shark vtuber except Gura

  • @zzlai6235
    @zzlai6235 Рік тому +2

    Yuko isn't a Gura clone, she's clearly a Blahaj clone as a bid for Rin's affection

  • @monstersmike4585
    @monstersmike4585 10 місяців тому

    There can only be one bloodthirsty queen.

  • @ReiAyanami8
    @ReiAyanami8 Рік тому

    Other aquatic and shark themed Vtuber's have _reminded_ me of Gura, but I never thought they were copying her.

  • @Rosi_in_space
    @Rosi_in_space Рік тому +1

    Kobo: " HAHA, not my prrrroblem! "

  • @Saelestria-jd3uq
    @Saelestria-jd3uq 5 місяців тому +1

    All rabbit VTubers are rabbit VTubers because Pekora demonstrated that they can get away with anything for what they are: *war criminals.*

  • @mctankies
    @mctankies Рік тому +2

    Where my Goblin Shark Vtubers at.

  • @samurexatlas7373
    @samurexatlas7373 Рік тому +2

    Being the biggest V-Tuber by far is most certainly gonna make comparisons happen more often, which is why we don't see Pekora and Lopi compared, despite the shared gremlin energy and rabbitness.

  • @KitZunekaze
    @KitZunekaze Рік тому

    This can be extended beyond creators, and beyond vtubers. People will always compare people to the best example of a person they can think of, so being inspired by that person and taking on aspects that remind people of them, intentionally or unintentionally, will always 'invite' these comparisons.
    It's not a GOOD thing we do as a society, but it is a thing we do.

  • @DimitriKurkov
    @DimitriKurkov Рік тому

    Knowing Goomba, this is probably the last thingv she'd want her viewrs to do.

  • @sircrimsonwolf7492
    @sircrimsonwolf7492 8 місяців тому +1

    That’s the price of fame, and anyone that is perceived to be slightly similar even if they’re not related, it’s gonna cause a clone, even if that couldn’t be further from the truth

  • @Power-9Hunnid
    @Power-9Hunnid 2 місяці тому

    But, now we live in the Shylily comparison era too.

  • @cygnusereve4779
    @cygnusereve4779 6 місяців тому +1

    Theres nothing wrong to say a vtuber looks like another vtuber. Even when the vtuber came came first.
    However, saying one vtuber is a clone can be hurtful. Especially, when the vtuber came first.

  • @MidoriNatsume
    @MidoriNatsume Рік тому

    "Hunga Bunga, monkey see blue, means copy, means baaaad"
    I hate humanity.

  • @imaplaygames633
    @imaplaygames633 Рік тому +1

    Imagine a new vtuner comes onto the block and they're a shark, the community claims that they're a Gura clone and they stop whatever they're doing, zoom in close to the face and respond "Yes, yes I am."