Conversation With A Rare Dinitrophenol Accident Survivor (DNP For Weight Loss)
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- Опубліковано 5 чер 2024
- Patient in this case is @East-Bound (check out his UA-cam Channel!)
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Timestamps:
0:00 - Introduction
0:30 - Can you tell me about yourself?
1:21 - How did you get into lifting weights?
3:14 - Bernard talking about his high school experience
4:12 - What was your relationship like with the gym?
5:48 - How did things change in Christopher's life at the end of high school?
8:17 - Other people's perception of weight
9:24 - Christopher describing long time girlfriend cheating on him
10:32 - People judging others based on weight
14:45 - How did you get back in to fitness during college?
17:54 - Weight loss plateau
20:54 - Weight loss supplements
24:46 - Transition from supplements to harder weight loss chemicals
31:04 - What is clenbuterol like?
33:40 - How did you come across DNP?
35:41 - What is being on DNP like?
40:00 - How long did you take DNP for?
44:58 - What do you remember from day of accident?
50:19 - Tales from the emergency room, September 3 2015
51:10 - Waking up in the ICU
55:25 - How did the accident change your relationship with the gym?
57:54 - What would you tell someone thinking of taking DNP today?
2,4-Dinitrophenol (DNP) is a chemical that is not approved for weight loss. It is a classic case of efficacy, but without safety in the setting of weight loss. This setting of weight loss can be prone to chemical misuse, further exacerbating understanding in human systems. Christopher is one of 2 - 3 cases documented in literature to have survived an accident with DNP for weight loss. As of 2021, one organization has permission from the US FDA to investigate DNP in some neurodegenerative disorders. These are rare diseases with limited standards of care, therefore extenuating circumstances to find anything that could potentially improve patient outcomes.
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2,4-dinitrophenol (DNP): a weight loss agent with significant acute toxicity . J Med Toxicol. 2011 Sep;7(3):205-12. pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21739...
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Hey everyone! A more indepth video about DNP: ua-cam.com/video/jgDUMNaVqHg/v-deo.html
Hope you all learned from and enjoyed!
Looking forward! (Memes and tropes are fun, and provide much of the style of the other channel, but I love the chemistry/biochemistry. That said...)
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Can't wait for this! Hope you talk about the research with anti aging and cancer studies too!!
Ephedra was definitely the gateway drug in his story. You could buy those pills in any gas station and it was caffeine x3
I am taking the Burn Evolved and the Turmeric Black supplement from Sculptnation, and I’m not THAT sure how extreme it is. It does contain yohimbine, and I heard that it’s banned from some other countries, and it’s stronger than caffeine.
My asian mom got mad at me for trying to buy melatonin and this man got a drug that can kill him, I guess I'm thankful for my parents, although I am 265 lbs at 17, so I'm so much worse than you guys, I try my best to workout and will try to join my gym, I also have 20lbs ankle weights which is good
He'd rather try to survive this overdose at home than get hit with the ambulance bill. Fuck our healthcare system.
@@regularperson9801 In Finland, my home country, an ambulance ride costs at maximum 25€ (30$,) though most times you only have to pay a fraction of that. So yeah, fuck the American healthcare system.
@@noob19087 meh most people will regret the government taking over healthcare. like in covid they decided some people werent worth keeping around.
@@regularperson9801 regular people are not okay with the cost of an ambulance trip. what a troll.
@@darklight6921 We still have private health care too, so if you're not happy with the public sector you can go to the private sector too. A typical doctor's visit costs around 25€ in my local private hospital, for example. The price for a private ambulance ride is actually often even cheaper than public.
@@regularperson9801 And you just made a point I never disputed... troll like I said.
First- this interview works on many levels, because you were as interested in his story as your viewers. Mainstream interviewers love to hear themselves talk- which negates what/who the story is about. When that happens, the viewer gets very frustrated. Second- this is REAL. As someone who has always had issue with weight, this is supremely relevant on a personal level. Third- this story is about the male experience. It's always about women- as our worth, culturely, seems to be closely tied to our appearance but men also have this same issue, just not discussed. My darling son needs to watch his weight- his self worth and his career (US Navy) are tied to his weight and appearance. I will make sure he watches this when he gets back (on deployment now). Lastly- this interview gives so much pertinent information! Sorry for the long post- it's just that this interview moved me so very much.
I agree. Loved seeing two guys that were bullied in school share their experiences.
Heartbreaking hearing about all the cruelty & bullying directed to these two very intelligent, insightful, and attractive men when they were overweight teens/ young adults.
The only good of it, was it encouraged them to take action to reduce their weight and build muscle, though mistakes were made In the process.
Feel sorry for today's teenagers/ or young adults: who may be now where they were then. The bullying is so much more amplified today with social media.
Maybe Wegovy, Ozempic, Montjaro can be of use, but they too have sides, some sides are rare, but very serious. Also, the probable muscle wasting has to be addressed.
Plus insurance may not cover these very costly drugs. Buying online too risky bc listed ingredients & doses are not guaranteed; and who knows what else unlisted is in it, or if there's contamination from manufacturing.
I expect a few Chubbymeus's episodes in the near future on Ozempic et al.
I really appreciate this interview. It brings a whole new level of relatability/empathy to hear from the patient themselves.
He's telling people to eat sugars and carbs if you take too much dnp.... that is the worst thing you can do... please dont spread this misinfo
@@TehEzie Not sure if that was the intended take away, but go off.
@Peekaboocrew thanks for letting us all know that you have no clue what addiction is or how it works, thanks! Anything else you wanna share?
It's so insane hearing this interview. He keeps talking about "being unable to drop past 200 lbs" as a 5'8 male. But never once considered just eating less or fasting. It's like a delusional sense of madness. Can't say I haven't been there myself, but hearing someone else describe it helps you realize things you can't be self aware of yourself. You want to like scream at him: STOP USING DRUGS! STOP EXERCISING SO MUCH! JUST EAT LESS!
@@rainjaydd8213 An addiction makes someone an addict though. So he’s right.
The story of his father's death and the way he blamed himself is heartbreaking. Great video.
"What borders on an eating disorder" It really does sound like a genuine eating disorder. They're not recognized as much in men but I feel there's not much difference between intentionally, painfully working off all your calories for the day and not eating them in the first place. of course that's different if you're an athlete and you happen to work off more than you eat.... but I'm also certain there are athletes with disordered eating habits. If female gymnasts and dancers are anorexic for trying to fit the image their trainer wants, then male weightlifters and football players can be disordered for overworking themselves to the point of pain, torment, injury just to achieve their fitness goals
It is way more common in men than many might think. If a man is not eating they go down real quick too because they lose weight faster
You are definitely right on this, instincts on point
It is for sure an eating disorder. It’s called orthorexia, excessively health conscious, highly restrictive to food groups in diet and rigorous macro/calorie counting, and excessive exercise.
holy shit truth
ED in men is rife right now. Proana and profasting communities are indistinguishable..they use the same advice and rhetoric and type of "support", just very slightly adjusted, like gillette and gillete "venus"
I love the emotional/personal nuance that this adds to the medical side of cases. It goes to show a symptomatic diagnosis can be achieved with science, but finding the root cause goes deep past the scientific and it's imperative to look at the personal and emotional aspects.
The personal and emotion aspects are still part of the Science though, but I think that I get what you mean.
the way he talks about his own actions and thought processes shows such an amazing level of self awareness and accountability. remarkable stuff.
I’m an ICU survivor, also from an overdose. It’s an incredibly traumatic and destabilising experience that takes years and years to unpack. I also experienced learning when I woke up that the clinicians had told my family I might not make it. The guilt of that is immense. Thank you for talking so openly about what happened to you.
Why did you choose to traumatize yourself and family?
@@elsagrace3893 why would you ask such a cruel question? Shoshi specifically said in their post that ‘the guilt is immense’. Are you deliberately trying to make this person feel worse? Ugh, sanctimoniousness isn’t as great as kindness you know.
@@leosreadalouds6970 how did you formulate your opinion that it is a cruel question? Explain please. I want to understand why people do theses things. That he feels guilty now does not explain why he chose to overdose before. That Shoshi is stuck in guilt points to the likelihood that he hasn’t put effort into learning why he did it. Also please explain why learning and understanding offends you so much. You are clearly offended. The words you’ve chosen clearly reflect this. How do you live day to day being offended all the time? What is the payoff for you? There is one or you would change your ways. I believe that it is that you get to feel righteous. You are not right.
@@elsagrace3893 typically people don’t “choose” to overdose ya big dummy
@@elsagrace3893 I'll help explain. There's no problem with wanting to understand. But your wording is not very nice. Sometimes people get "offended" because the tone or specific kind of words you choose to use may convey a meaning, which you may not have meant to convey. Let me tell you from Leo's point of view: the way you worded the sentence, "Why did you choose to traumatize yourself and family?", seems like you are aggressively guilt-tripping the person who wrote the original comment. It is indeed, cruel, perhaps unintentionally. Why? Overdosing happens by accident most of the time. It is traumatic and also not a conscious "choice". So it seems like you're *accusing* the person for overdosing, rather than trying to learn why they overdosed. Especially when you are on the internet, it doesn't matter what you think the meaning of your comment is, what matters is how others might see it. Must be extra careful and meaningful when making your comments. Spend a little more time on the internet and you'll get the hang of the art of commenting!
I'm only 15 minutes in at this stage but as a female it's so different hearing men talk about the effects of body negativity and negative comments I'm so use to hearing women talk about it and I'm use to my own inner voice but its bringing me to tears hearing these 2 men talk about it and not only that but so openly and almost for lack of a better word in such an emotionless way
Dont know why its setting my emotions off so much
Men have feelings too. We just don't share them as much. Thanks for caring.
Very true, men do have feelings too, especially sweet men.
Guys, if you want true love it's not coming from your body. Love comes from true connection. You can be loved it you're open to being loved.
I just posted something very similar to your reaction. I usually wouldn't watch an hour-long video, but I was spellbound! This video should be required in junior high.
@David Willis lmao what's your problem. Being a man who can articulate his emotions doesn't include being a whiny bitch 😂
@David Willis i also have no sympathy for idiots(that includes you and not the person that your are blaming)
A friend of mine had a aneurism and almost died at 29 because he took hydroxycut but was abusing supplements and taking too many different ones. He was in the ICU for weeks but by a miracle he survived.
Did he sue? Is that why GNC went under?
I took one dose of hydroxcycut and thought I was going to die. One dose.
What kind of supplements do you mean, if I may ask?
Man... That’s awful. I think most people don’t realize how dangerous supplements can be. People think of them as safe or healthy because they are marketed as such and can be obtained without a prescription. Taking supplements can be very risky.
Omg I took the serving size of hydroxycut and almost called an ambulance because of how awful I felt. Keep in mind I was already underweight but it's such a horrible feeling
I had never heard men talking about eating disorders and struggles with self image, only women.. yet his experiences and the whole mindset he describes is SO similar to what I went through when I had anorexia as a teen.
Men enter eating disorders later on average. Often performance enhancing drugs, and fat cutting pharmacology worsens the fact
He’s such a brave and handsome guy. He doesn’t need to change a thing about himself.
He’s not that smart.
He has been through some shit, and he has survived and is thriving so fair enough to the bloke.
@@elsagrace3893 You can tell he's intelligent based on his speech.
@@elsagrace3893 what makes you think that? he was literally in an aerospace engineering program when this happened. mental health struggles can make even really intelligent people make reckless decisions
@@elsagrace3893 one decision doesn't make you stupid. Imo leaving idiotic comments is stupid but you dont see me calling you stupid 🤣
So important to hear stories about men/masculine folks struggling with body issues. I think the body positive movement often turns a blind eye to men. I love that we can start to accept women/ feminine folks at all sizes, but we need to recognize that men/ masculine folks need acceptance and love at any size too.
I guess that's what happens when you try to mess with the powerhouse of the cell...
Comment of the year sir
lmao
The mitochondria always win
idiot took it for 8 months...... go figure he almost died
I cackled. Well done, well done!
I went through a similar “transformation“ as a 25-year-old. I cannot imagine going through it as a teen. To feel OK about your body for the first time is one hell of a drug, and there is lots of positive support four athletic pursuits and other activities people perceive as attractive or healthy. But there is little support when those activities become self destructive and toxic.
Man it really peeves me off that people think they can tease someone or treat them poorly because they're overweight.
dont be fat then
being bullied about being a fatty has caused many a fattys to change and actually be thankfull for that shit after
(source: myself, ex fatty)
dont be such a snowflake
fyi I don't care the slightest if anyone had extra fat tissue around their belly or not. Why would anyone care that's so weird
@@Aphelia. being fat displays a lack of willpower. Also, fat people are generally just pretty gross
Holy crap people you are toxic, so instead of minding your own business you rather want people to be judged, peer pressured and miserable, you rather will see people breaking their bodies in gym, hooking up on chemicals and getting mental trauma just because you think that you know what's better for others and that it's a true way of the manly man with a stronk willpower?
Please reevaluate your ideas.
Dayum, 1 hour
* Grabs popcorn *
foxy what u doin here
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55:40 hold on, why isn't anyone talking about the fact that Dr. Bernard was hit by a car _twice?_
Yes! We need that story, Dr. Bernard.
I can c it now: "A medical student gets hit by a car twice, this is how he avoids the subject..."
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@@TheJamieRamone He's a pharmacist not a medical doctor.
@@aahsimovieprojects does that make you less impressed that he was hit by a car twice ? 😂it doesn’t change my amazement
People really do treat you differently when you’re fat. I was thin all of my younger days, even rapidly losing weight after having my kids. Now, in my mid 60s, after being disabled for 16 years, I’m quite overweight. And even at my age, it has affected my self-perception and self-esteem really hard.
Thanks for sharing this.
Thank You For sharing
I'm sorry things seem to have gotten difficult for you.
I hope you can find creative ways to help you feel better about your physicality
I don't know your disability so.of course I don't know how possible that is! But I ferlnthere are always some things we can change.
Take care
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@@HumanimalChannel thank you for your kind words!
Have you looked into OA? Overeaters Anonymous even has zoom 100 pounders meetings.
Thank you for continuing to post in depth videos on heme review!!
This is actually very interesting and the interview certainly adds a personal dimension to this case study.
I remember Dr. Bernard talking about how people shouldn't judge due to reasons out of the individual's control but he was talking about medication. That's easy to explain... this story would take a while.
I'm not sure if this is coincidence or not. But I was just about buy these supplements. I would have been foolish to do so. Thank you so much
very happy you didn’t. quick fix weight loss fads rarely turn out well. find what works for you to get to the results you want and you will be much better off!
google uses tracking to sell targeted adds/give recommendations. that's not a coincidence it's the google algorithm.
Dont touch that stuff.
Especially not for fat loss.
Nutrition is the key.
I took ALL of the steroids at one point lol.
Now I look my best I've ever looked in my life.
TRT, and perfect nutrition.
I've used DNP, but not in those doses.. or with those other compounds.
Its reset of Insulin sensitivity is amazing. (Short term for bodybuilding purposes)
But its BEYOND risky to use things like DNP/Clen/Albuterol... unless you REALLY know what you're doing and are in amazing shape to start with.
@@locussolus9997 google isn’t gonna give you ads for DNP
Its freaking plant fertilizer not a supplement please dont ever consider these extreme measures nothing beats hard work and dedication anytime a shortcut is taken to achieve a goal theres a sidev effect some are just mild inconveinences some are deadly
So happy to see you cover Christopher's story! I discovered his channel recently and binge watched most of his videos, he has incredible intelligence and insight in so many topics. And as a long time viewer of yours, I absolutely love this collab!
You are far too kind!
same here🤩 the collar we never knew we needed
Really hope this second channel gets bigger. I was afraid the content would be too technical and more geared towards people in the medical field but it's just as engaging as your main channel to a lay person like me.
Thanks for sharing you two! It is a bit ironic to see how so many "fitness" folks end up with eating disorders and body dismorphia associated with this life style. It is interesting to hear that in this case and perhaps many others there is actually a deeper psychological reason behind it, other then just achieving the ideal mirror image.
It begs the philosophical question though; did eating disorders and body dysmorphia cause them to enter this lifestyle in the first place?
I see a lot of gym junkies in my workline (currently watching a dude go to the gym more than I'm there- and I get paid for it) and it's concerning. A lot of people are able to maintain that balance but I think if you're susceptible to these conditions when you go into it and don't fully learn to deal with them, you'll go to the complete opposite end of the spectrum with similar disorders.
@@Stopthisrightnow560 Well the first time I ever went to the gym it was to keep up my stamina for cycling to school during the winter, cause we'd cycle those 10 miles or so during summer but during the colder season we'd take the bus. But once there they had a lot more than just cardio machines, so we'd also hit the weighted machines and I easily managed to pull up more than my body weight after a few months. But I did notice the like "gym culture " while I was there, down there they weren't into things like vitamin T or anything, but you know the need more protein in particular animal protein, even though it comes with an amount of fat that will never get you shredded. And of course the ladies were always desperately trying to slim down whereas of course the dudes were all trying to bulk up. And I recently went back to a gym during a colder period and there was this massive personal trainer recommending this similar bulking diet to a woman who was there clearly to lose a few pounds, I'm seriously doubting that's gonna work, but then again calories in calories out... By being paid to be there I'm guessing you're a personal trainer too? Would you recommend such a diet to overweight individuals trying to shed a few pounds?
Thank you for presenting this Dr. Bernard and Christopher. My daughter talks about weight loss supplements and most/all are shams. Walk more, eat less, eat better. I've shown her this video, I hoping she listens to the message
Okay, but can we appreciate Dr Bernard's Goku hair right now?
Dunno Goku means but I woulda got smacked by parent if I walked out of the house with that style. I would like to see him with long hair, just my opinion it would be a good look for him.
YESSSS!!!! lv his HAIR!!!😍Dr. B !!
Love that anime hero hair!💖
He looks crazy...lol. its hard to take him seriously. When you listen to him... he is intelligent...empathic... then you look up and Aahhhh...idk...it makes me laugh and I dont want to
But those eyes! Those deep, intelligent eyes. No crazy, this man.💖
Something similar happened to me in 6th grade my grandfather died. After that I went from 150lbs to 308lbs over the course of 3 years. I destroyed my body and my health. That was 10years ago and I was just now able to drop below 200lbs after being stagnate at 220-240lbs for 6 years. I am working in a produce shipping company and walk around 7miles everyday, and lift boxes of various weights.
Good for you, man! I came to the comments looking for people just like you who had wise words for people like me. I'm new to menopause, and feel really self conscious about my weight gain, but even at 135 pounds, I feel like I would be happier closer to my weight when I was in my 20s. I'm 42 now, and can't fit into most of my clothes from the last 20 years, and I *hate* clothes shopping, so I have put myself on a reduced calorie diet, and have been exercising, but I don't feel like I've lost enough weight over the last few months. There are so many ads that tempt people like me to try pills, weird diets and forums that essentially promote starvation; I just want to be healthy. Anyway, I appreciate your comment, and I hope that both of us can be good to ourselves in the years to come:)
Dang Captain, I'm so sorry you had to go through that kind of loss at a young age. I understand how you can find a "friend" in food -- always there for you, makes you feel good. Until it doesn't.
I'm glad you're in a better place now. Keep with it and let yourself thrive. ❤️💋
Congratulations on your fight back to health. Grief can be devastating. At one point i had almost doubled my weight, after an agonising loss. Still struggling to get back to a healthy weight, getting better. Relearning new ways to value myself.
I don’t understand how over eating helps grief. Or how anything helps grief. Grief is something you have to sit alone with until you get used to it.
@@elsagrace3893 it's an attempt to self-medicate. The pain is too much to sit with constantly, so we seek escape through self medication -- some use food, others alcohol or drugs, some use sex. Whatever works to keep the pain at bay for awhile..
This is easily one of my favorite heme review and Chubbyemu episodes
Great job!
This is insightful. Hearing your stories about struggles with weight loss and body image is motivating. Through stress, gym closures, and maybe some secondary trauma related to covid-19 work I put on 40+ lbs this year. I had worked so hard to get down to a weight a few pounds shy of a healthy BMI only to lose it all and get even heavier than I have ever been. Getting started again and repairing my diet seems bit less daunting.
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same, but I'm trying to think about it like, we have done it once we can do it again
Try keto ...
I might've gained about ten pounds and I'm a little po'd.
The thing w keto is that when you do try to incorporate a few good carbs, the weight comes back fast, plus keto is hard on your pancreas, gal bladder and liver.
I feel panicky, exhausted and emotional after watching what these 2 young men put themselves through, especially Christopher, who almost lost his life.The things we do to our bodies is unreal. I'm so glad he survived.
Who came from the chubbyemu video?
literally everyone.
Me!
Chubbyemu looks a lot like Heme review
Yesish
Lol I came from the Chis video, too the Chubbyemu video to this one :)
Hot damn this is good. Lots of great info here AND valuable life lessons. Christopher says he feels normal and he looks it. Coming that close to dying, overheating it so badly, gosh it seems like if there was any damage, it's relatively minimal. Using his drive to push through therapy probably helped a ton.
Thanks to both of you for sharing these life stories!
lmao I thought CE meant chubbyemu and that he was interviewing himself
I didn't even think of that, but it's a hilarious idea, really.
Actually not a bad idea.
chubbyemu interviews emuchubby
that would've been better than this vid tbh lmao fr tho, somebody make this comment a reality
I didn't even know his name is bernard?????
Very interesting! Having studied the works of UCPs and uncoupling efficiency this is very interesting!
Have no idea how I came across this video, I have never been into weight lifting or any type of supplements but could still relate to aspects of this story. I am super impressed with both of you! Great story on so many levels.
I was just thinking the same thing! I’m like how did I get here? But watched the whole thing!
I love the doctor Bernards hair it's awesome
Eating disorder related stuff is new to me and my own personal issues are not in this area. I am connected with a body dysmorphia sufferer but have never seen an interview like this.
I was researching DNP for other reasons and found this video.
I have never got such a good insight into these emotional/psychological issues until I watched this. Very brave person to talk about all this stuff. So sorry you lost your father so suddenly.
Thank you for your time and bravery.
Man, thanks for posting this. And really brave of Cristopher to be so open about all of this. I teared up about his dad....I've lost a couple of people that I feel tremendous guilt over, it's one of the most difficult feelings I've ever dealt with. I can't imagine how hard it was for him after hearing what he said. It's sad we judge people so readily, never look and them and think maybe there is tremendous pain there. I wish more people were so open. Also props again because this is such a rare thing, it's not like we can readily get survivor accounts of this. You are both great dudes.
It's awful to think you can end up in hospital due to this! It reminds me somewhat of experiences I've had because of my bulimia, years ago I was losing weight extremely rapidly because I was throwing up anything I ate, I was also taking 'stackers' (but a kind that's deemed more safe in the EU so it's mostly just a shitton of caffeine), I was running on empty all the time. At one point I was going to the supermarket to buy binge food and I fainted in line at the checkout and people called an ambulance for me. When the ambulance came they determined I'd had a big drop in blood pressure, I also hadn't properly eaten in days so my blood sugar was really low too. They called my parents and they drove me to my doctor's office where they pretty much immediately signed me up for in-patient treatment at an eating disorder center. I was in treatment for 4 months and the first couple weeks my heart rate was very low all the time and my potassium levels were dangerously low so they put me on supplements, I wasn't allowed to go out for walks for the first 3 weeks.
That situation, the health scare and the treatment were quite a wake-up call, I tried to focus more on eating in a way to nourish myself after that. I still struggle a bit because I also have a thyroid disorder causing me to gain weight easily, falling back into these types of habits is always a risk.
To me it definitely sounds like he was suffering from a pretty serious form of exercise bulimia, it's a form of bulimia commonly seen in men and is not often enough diagnosed. The parallels with my experience with bulimia are very clear to me though.
This guy is so modest! I'm sure he was much more popular than he says. Its so sad that he lost his father, and even worse that he felt it was his fault. I'm so glad he overcame his problem. It must have taken a lot of determination. I'm sure that his dad would be so proud of the man he has become!
“I tried to pull out my central line, which is a huge no-no.”
No shit it’s a huge no-no.
He was clearly completely off his rocker at that point.
Thanks for sharing Christopher. Glad you are still alive. You have so much to offer.
Having used DNP before, this was definitely an interesting experience to watch. The heat is not overstated - I was usually comfortable outside in December wearing just a shirt, and that's on maybe 30-50% of the dosage commonly suggested on bodybuilding forums.
Caffeine pills does this to me, other sources do not. Even high doses in many cups if coffee per day don't (upwards of 8 drip pot cups per day roughly), but caffeine in pure form makes me sweat like crazy and overheat.
That honestly sounds nice. I'm freezing cold and numb in anything below 75 degrees
@@lizhenson4563 that kinda sounds like you're not taking in enough energy - or rather calories - it's a common symptom with underweight ppl
UA-cam algorithms treating me well! Great content, thanks.
Wow I didn't realize while watching the ChubbyEmu channel video just how bad the odds of his survival were.
Multiple organ failure, edge of death
Oh wow, I’ll have to find that and watch it!
wait did they each set up their own camera to use with the zoom footage? oh thats so smart
They both are UA-camr. Its easy for them.
@Liquid Ricardo I thought it was YouPort?
That's a cool dog, ya boi
I noticed how sharp the video quality was and wondered how they pulled it off. Now it makes sense.
Can someone please explain this to me?
Fabulous interview! Thank you for your honesty. So glad you’re still here. Be blest☦️👩🏻🦳
This is a very good experience for us to see the patient behind the event. If possible please do more of these!
You are so great at interviews and speaking! Thanks for sharing your story!
This is really amazing, what a spectacular piece of content you’ve made here. Just keeps getting better and better.
I liked watching this interview very much. It was very informative and yet had that casual conversation feel which makes listening all the better
Thanks for doing the collab videos with East Bound. It's a perfect match. This is awesome!
This was a great interview. There was real empathy here, the convergence of stories was amazing. It feels like a lot of things came together. He seems like a great guy, glad he's with us.
This was really insightful, thank you. This whole story sounds like a book waiting to be written. I'm so glad it worked out okay after everything.
Excellent interview. Thanks for the additional in depth discussion. Looking forward to the video about DNP.
You're pretty good at these interviews, very enjoyable.
Not to downplay his interviewing skills, but the video looks good mostly thanks to editing (minus a few moments of unsync), which is definitely what Bernard's is good at.
Wow.... great interview. I'm glad everything worked out in the end.
I can relate so closely to almost everything you said. It's crazy. I foolishly used to think I was the only one with thoughts and feelings like this. I was always ashamed because I was known for my body and workout regimens, but my brain and body image became my biggest enemy. Thank you for your honesty, and courageousness in sharing your story. It really touched me deeply. So much love to you ❤
He is sooo cute.
What people don't realise that when you put your self out there, there is always going to be someone who will find you cute. The only thing a person needs is a beautiful personality
For me they need a brain. Intelligence enough to not do stupid stuff.
When you wrote this, were you drunk? lol
It's quite funny how used I'd gotten to Dr Bernard speaking in a typical off-screen, narrative voice and how I was quite taken aback by hearing him speak "like a normal person" 😁.
I do love the chubby emu videos and am sure to subscribe to this channel. Thanks for the great, accessible content!
Ngl when he started out in that voice I was really concerned like "is this guy gonna talk like this throughout this, incredibly sensitive, interview?" But then he switched to normal
I am amazed and have a clearer look at my life and addiction just by listening to someone, I have never met, but can relate to... Lost my parents when I was 11...months apart - it truly changed the direction of my life and thought process... I have tears in my eyes to know this man had the courage to get through everything he has gone through and has come out shining... Thanks for a great interview... xo A real eye-opener...
Thank you so much for your beautiful story. I’m sure so many of us can relate. We appreciate you. Get with you
Christopher you are absolutely an angel for sharing your life with us. Bless you 🌺🌺🌺
Thanks for sharing your poignant story Chris, I think your introspection here is very valuable!
Chris is so well spoken and so intelligent. Thanks for sharing your story!
Thank you guys for posting about these things. I have family who are very into fitness, and it's really scary that they might run up on some dangers out there. These kinds of videos help to keep things truly healthy.
*OMG Never knew you had this channel! Looks like some more binge watching of your videos! LOVE your stuff, mate!*
Fantastic content sir, more heme review PLEASE
Amazing video...many thanks to you both for taking the time to do this and upload. I wish you both every success and happiness going forward. 😊🧡
This was so good! To see men talk about body image issues and binge eating: and in such a genuine and honest way. Really illustrates men and woman are more alike than different.
Man, it just goes to show, everyone fights their own internal battles. I’m glad he’s ok, and though I wish he didn’t go through all that, seems it gave him a new perspective on health.
Thanks for the link to the new channel! Lover your content. Liked and subscribed :)
Wonderful interview! Really appreciate your honesty and integrity! Hats off to both Chris and Dr Bernard 👍👍👍👏👏👏💯💯💯🌹🌹🌹
You guys both had great stories to tell (and you're both so very well spoken)-thank you for sharing.
Marty someone who has seen you at your worst and best, and loves you just how you are. Looks fade but love stays. ♥️
If someone doesnt know this by the time they are entering into marriage... like wtf kinda preparation have they done LMAOOO
Chubby Emu's hair is wild! I love it.
wow what a great interview. one of the first youtube videos in a while that has grabbed my attention. really appreciate the work that went into this.
Great interview, thanks so much for covering this.
Really interesting case I've always been curious about DNP for its properties and the two videos you posted really gave a good insight both as a case but also with the pharmacodynamics.
Look up more plates more dates video on it for a very in depth look
@@Jmack7861 bingo. Dnp works extremely well but You will feel like trash
This was a fascinating interview.
Man, that was a roller coaster lol awesome interview and mad props to Christopher for keeping himself in the game and telling his story. To go through what he did, and make it out on the other end a decent person who's even trying to help people is truly inspiring. 🤘👏👏👏👏
I wish I could like this 1k times. Very engaging interview, thanks for this!
Sometimes it's difficult seeing the pain a person is punishing themselves with whether they are too slim, addicted, compulsively driven towards success, or obese. But I try to catch eyes when I can bc it's always a lighter load of mental anguish to carry with more hands.
Hey I had the opposite problem. I was so skinny that everyone made horrible fun of me. Once this girl from school was singing a song in the gym about a little worm and everyone started pointing at me and saying that’s Jan. So embarrassed.believe me it hurts just as much
Right!!! I've always been thin as has my daughter whose now 19 and I feel ya! Stick, skinnie Minnie, etc etc it is not right. No one REALLY chooses their body type. We are just born into it. What we eat may or may not affect it but some can eat nonstop and gain nothing and some can eat a bite and gain 20lbs. I think we just are who we are and I get real tired of no clothes fitting right and being made fun of for bring "skinny as a rail " I mean honestly. We qll wish we had the "perfect " body type but we don't. What matters is who we ARE.... who our souls are!
I also had a REALLY skinny friend. She ate normally and it was absolutely nothing she had control over. It was horrible the number of people who thought it was OK to make nasty comments to her.
Yep, I hear ya. I'm not even on the BMI charts. Heard all the "skinny* comments all my life too. People think it's ok to say to someone "oh my God, you're so skinny" but these same people would never go up to someone and say "oh my God, you're so fat". It's just as hurtful.
Poor skinny folks, seems like no matter what, if we don’t fit some impossible to reach, cookie cutter image, we’re outcasts. Not worthy of breathing air. I was overweight
This was so well done, thank you both for your time on this with this, I'm not taking any supplements nor do I even workout, but this interviews was fascinating, and helpfully helpful for others who are thinking about taking this drug to help them make an informed decision. I never even herd of this stuff let alone take it.
Anyway,, really good interview without any hoopla.
Thank you!!
Awesome story!!! I clicked on it, unsure if I would watch it all the way through... Then found myself this a.m. taking my phone with me to make my coffee and morning routine because I didn't want to pause it!!! I love your videos already; but to hear from the patient and your interaction with them... It was so cool. I'm just so glad he is ok!!! So scary. 🙏🙏🙏
Great interview 👍
Fascinating to hear men discuss what most women live through also.
Great interview! Thanks to both of you
Extremely articulate young man - wishing him the very best in his future.
I hope he has found his peace - what a horrible burden to think that he was responsible for his dad's death.
Quite revelatory; much learned. Thx, so much!
-Emia means presence in blood!💖
It sucks when your self esteem is so low the idea of succeeding is scary, I feel that pain 😔
Interesting video. I follow the doctor's video's all the time. I was an ICU float nurse at a level 1 trauma center in the Chicago area. We never let patients extubate themselves when they were awake. Would some occasionally pull their tube out with cuff inflated, yes, but rarely. We plan the extubation and suction them and deflate the cuff, pull it out with an RN and an RT. Never do we let a patient extubate themself. I love this doctor!! He doesn't seem to have the EGO so many do. Not all, but many. This man being interviewed is very intelligent too. Thanks for sharing this video. I take care of many patients like him but never on DNP. WOW.
This is such a great interview and really terrifying, so glad he is okay
Unfortunate caveat of DNP is that the effective dose is also the lethal dose in a large portion of the population.
Eh not true, it’s effective even at low doses, doses that wouldn’t put someone in danger of death.
@@MrXennon1 there simply isnt enough info on that
@@nolandderlugner1351 “there simply” is a lot of info on that lol, there is so much literature on dnp. Please don’t spread misinformation with ignorant comments
I tackled binge eating habit around college years through regular fasting 24-36 hrs only water. That taught me to realize how I was dealing with my emotions through over-eating. It is like a secret self abuse. Fasting taught me to find other ways to deal with my challenging feelings.
Thank you both for this.