Serpent used to be a lot more prevalent. The US distributor has done everything he can to piss everyone off, so the vast majority of people stopped using them and carrying them. I wasn't given specifics, that was the extent I was told when I showed up at the track in Houston with the rtr srx8. On the rtr note, it is actually the 811 cobra. The only parts on the srx8 rtr that directly transfer to the kit srx8 are the front/rear diffs and diff boxes. That is my experience.
Always look forward to your videos. You bring insight, knowledge and a true appreciation for a much loved hobby I have been involved in for over 30years. Thank you for your quality videos. Keep pushing...
Can't wait for the mayako video. I personally own one and I am also a member. I like how JQ is really knowledgeable and can explain why do THIS to make THAT happen. Also the community bouncing ideas and fixes for any issues etc. Although I do get some funny looks at my local track for driving such a car. The performance speaks for itself. In stock form the car just has confidence inspiring grip.
Any talk of JQ being a ”personality” or having a ”reputation” should come with the disclaimer that he’s Finnish. The way he expresses opinions and gives advice doesn’t stand out in our culture at all. (He does stand out for really knowing his shit though.) We get along really well with the Dutch as they also prefer direct signals without blurry sugarcoating.
As usual great content, looking forward to racing with you again soon. Hopefully you can make it out to the Barn this weekend. Please keep the content rolling.
Not really a comparison but I have just come home from testing out a team C tc02 evo and what an excellent durable car to drive, I sold off my ae B6’s just because it was getting to expensive and I just enjoy tinkering and having a run around the track I’m never going to be and not interested in being competitive and couldn’t believe how well it went for a car more than a decade older, now I was lucky I bought a few in a good deal so I’ve got a stable of cars with every single spare for less than half the cost of buying a new kit. Don’t have to have the best to enjoy rc racing
Check out the Hong Nor X3S Evo. It's a relative to Tekno. If you put them side by side they have a lot of similarities. I have a suspicion that both companies were in cahoots on design. Hong Nor also has adjustable c hubs as well. I have been running mine and its the best value kit out there for $550 new. Lots of carbon and aluminum. They are developing the E Truggy right now.
Kyosho is criminally underrated. And especially on the 10th scale side of RC racing. Back in the 80s/90s to early 2000s , kyosho dominated in european championships with the Ultima and Lazer series. If I'm not wrong they also won the 2013 2WD iFMAR with the RB6. Meanwhile their top of the line 4WD lineup in the 2000s , the Lazer ZX5 , also dominated the european championships and the japan championships. In fact it was so popular that they had 3 revisions of the ZX5 from 2005 to 2014. I wish they still made 10th scale racing hardware. I still occasionally race my Lazer zx5 2005 in my track and it holds up pretty good.
Yokomo driver dustin fox got the tq in 2wd stock buggy yesterday at the roar carpet nats, and 8th in 4wd. I tried his setups and they are better than any associated/shumacher I have driven
The 1/8 racing kits from kyosho are competitive and always superb quality, i would love to see them get back on the top spots. The agama kits shock stay/mounting design is really interesting, i might pick up their 1/10 2wd buggy n110. Thanks for the video!
If Kyosho worked on the tunability and durability aspects of their 1/10th scale cars they would be a serious stakeholder in the market. Nearly every company that is considered a serious contender in the racing world has competitive 1/10th scale cars. It is too big of a segment of the market to ignore.
PR Racing is criminally underrated, although I'm slightly biased as a past Insideline/Robitronic driver. Great handling cars out of the box. From what I can see their current 4wd seems to work especially well. From my experience Serpent cars are really high quality with the most setup options I've seen on a buggy, but at least I struggled to be competitive with then gen3 cars. The belt drive of the srx4 g3 is very reliable, but the car has a too rearwards weight bias and possibly too stiff chassis. Seen someone run a homebuild 4wd chassis with the rudebits 5-gear transmission to move the weight forward. These days TLR could be also counted as underrated, at least here in Europe.
Kyosho has a pretty decent number of drivers repling the brand in the NW... and Phi just got 3rd in Nitro Buggy at ROAR Fuel Nationals... I think they could be a bit underrated though...
I used to be hardcore Losi & I still have my XX and XXT, but I feel like they are absent in 10th scale since being purchased. I got a deal on a TLR 22 5.0DC, but I don't really drive it too much. It drives fine and all but there was a time when you could not touch replacement arms for it. Overall I think it is easier to run my Associated stuff & they work well on the surface I am racing on right now.
I ran a pr 4wd buggy and mini truggy. Mini truggy was just as good as my X-ray and any tekno I’ve driven. 4wd lacked compared to my b74.1 but with a setup change I’m sure it would be just as good
I've almost pulled the trigger a couple of times on a Yokomo 2whl buggy, so curious about them. Now that they are coming out with a "new" dirt version and I just sold my LD3 it's even more tempting. I have to keep reminding myself that I already have 2 B7Ds and a pre-order for the Agama N110...still kinda want a Yoke though lol
Schumachers have always “just” been good enough for the European market but miserably failed when compared to American or even the Japanese cars worldwide. I think you hold the bar too low for Schumacher
@@joes2686 well know everyone knows that Schumacher is great but my hobby shop has no support and nobody in my club runs them really so I just don't have one. Like I said everyone here would like to be able to run a Schumacher but lack of parts support. For example almost nobody knows who serpent is. I only know because Amazon advertised them. Not a lot of people at your local club are going to know who serpent is
Love that you're really exploring the industry. I'm in favor of whatever gets people out on the track. As always, love the videos.Seeing an over rated list would be awesome.
How can you not include Hong Nor?? They should have been 1st or 2nd on your list. Their factory manufactures parts for Agama, Mugen, Kyosho, IGT8 etc etc etc. Their own brand, Hong Nor Racing is also very very good especially their X3 platform (New Buggys due to drop in Q4 2024) and they are also GT8 world champions.
@@benjiej1380 i would disagree i took a slash and had it running well in short course for shits and giggles so i had a random class to run while i did tech for a larger race
Severals brandsONLY sale in US😕the Kyosho and tamiya is the same and same problem in europe is the Spare parts in Lisboa i know severel RC store that dont work beacuse the Spare .parts they made a rc car and pass on severals moths dont make Spare parts and in Portugal is expensive
My first RC car is a yokomo sgm 1/10 for use ONLY track and i use even today but it easy beacuse dont existe any Spare parts 🙂 in portuga yokomo sale but is the same problem .i know severals RC site thar sale Kyosho and tamiya and yokomo but .is another problem is portuguse costoms the Spare parts covert in euros is not expensive 💵 but En arrive in europe they raise the prize .beacuse is from outside from europe .e know european site thar sale Kyosho and tamiya and yokomo.and 🐍 serpent .they sales Soares parts but is expensive. And ONLY send not in normal mail but.in DHL thah raise more the prize 💵😕.in US the Spare parts ONLY send by DHL?
I was wondering only yesterday what has happened to kyosho I always want a turbo optima mid se , and I own a v1s nitro road car I just don’t get how Tamiya has such a big following but kyosho does not the kyosho products where always far superior in every way except parts availability at least in Australia,that was due to the local distribututor being slack
Serpent cars just work!
They sure do.
I'm not much of a racer, but I'm MUCH a fan of this channel. MAN I wish I could pull off this style of content.
Serpent used to be a lot more prevalent. The US distributor has done everything he can to piss everyone off, so the vast majority of people stopped using them and carrying them. I wasn't given specifics, that was the extent I was told when I showed up at the track in Houston with the rtr srx8.
On the rtr note, it is actually the 811 cobra. The only parts on the srx8 rtr that directly transfer to the kit srx8 are the front/rear diffs and diff boxes. That is my experience.
Always look forward to your videos. You bring insight, knowledge and a true appreciation for a much loved hobby I have been involved in for over 30years. Thank you for your quality videos. Keep pushing...
Thanks man, I'll always keep pushing
Can't wait for the mayako video. I personally own one and I am also a member. I like how JQ is really knowledgeable and can explain why do THIS to make THAT happen. Also the community bouncing ideas and fixes for any issues etc. Although I do get some funny looks at my local track for driving such a car. The performance speaks for itself. In stock form the car just has confidence inspiring grip.
Any talk of JQ being a ”personality” or having a ”reputation” should come with the disclaimer that he’s Finnish. The way he expresses opinions and gives advice doesn’t stand out in our culture at all. (He does stand out for really knowing his shit though.)
We get along really well with the Dutch as they also prefer direct signals without blurry sugarcoating.
Nearly midnight in the uk but still dropping everything when Roach uploads! Keep up the great work as always mate 👍
So glad you gave Serpent a mention… sound cars with sound parts website… great price tag too.
Hobao have got to be one of the most overlooked brands.. They make some of the best RCs you can get imho.!
Serpent cars are very good. Super underrated
i still have 2 811 be they are tanks
Lc racing is very Underated and the prices are amazing
Tacon is rebranded LCracing RCs. Nitrorcx.com carries them.
As usual great content, looking forward to racing with you again soon. Hopefully you can make it out to the Barn this weekend. Please keep the content rolling.
Not really a comparison but I have just come home from testing out a team C tc02 evo and what an excellent durable car to drive, I sold off my ae B6’s just because it was getting to expensive and I just enjoy tinkering and having a run around the track I’m never going to be and not interested in being competitive and couldn’t believe how well it went for a car more than a decade older, now I was lucky I bought a few in a good deal so I’ve got a stable of cars with every single spare for less than half the cost of buying a new kit. Don’t have to have the best to enjoy rc racing
Check out the Hong Nor X3S Evo. It's a relative to Tekno. If you put them side by side they have a lot of similarities. I have a suspicion that both companies were in cahoots on design. Hong Nor also has adjustable c hubs as well. I have been running mine and its the best value kit out there for $550 new. Lots of carbon and aluminum. They are developing the E Truggy right now.
Kyosho is criminally underrated. And especially on the 10th scale side of RC racing. Back in the 80s/90s to early 2000s , kyosho dominated in european championships with the Ultima and Lazer series. If I'm not wrong they also won the 2013 2WD iFMAR with the RB6. Meanwhile their top of the line 4WD lineup in the 2000s , the Lazer ZX5 , also dominated the european championships and the japan championships. In fact it was so popular that they had 3 revisions of the ZX5 from 2005 to 2014. I wish they still made 10th scale racing hardware. I still occasionally race my Lazer zx5 2005 in my track and it holds up pretty good.
I was a PR driver for 5 years it’s a very good car just hard to get parts and support here in the USA
Yokomo driver dustin fox got the tq in 2wd stock buggy yesterday at the roar carpet nats, and 8th in 4wd. I tried his setups and they are better than any associated/shumacher I have driven
The 1/8 racing kits from kyosho are competitive and always superb quality, i would love to see them get back on the top spots. The agama kits shock stay/mounting design is really interesting, i might pick up their 1/10 2wd buggy n110. Thanks for the video!
So I just built a pr racing v4tr it was a awesome build. Fit and finish were top notch. I'd say comparable to my last xray build to extent
Gday from Israel and from a Serpent team driver.
Great vid 😊
SERPENT 🔥
Shame about the driver...
Great video and right on point about all the brands covered!
The Infinity IFB8 buggy is pretty dialed
My buddy got me into serpent and that's what we race at our local track. I love it. I need to build my 10th scale I got a year ago
If Kyosho worked on the tunability and durability aspects of their 1/10th scale cars they would be a serious stakeholder in the market. Nearly every company that is considered a serious contender in the racing world has competitive 1/10th scale cars. It is too big of a segment of the market to ignore.
PR Racing is criminally underrated, although I'm slightly biased as a past Insideline/Robitronic driver. Great handling cars out of the box. From what I can see their current 4wd seems to work especially well.
From my experience Serpent cars are really high quality with the most setup options I've seen on a buggy, but at least I struggled to be competitive with then gen3 cars. The belt drive of the srx4 g3 is very reliable, but the car has a too rearwards weight bias and possibly too stiff chassis. Seen someone run a homebuild 4wd chassis with the rudebits 5-gear transmission to move the weight forward.
These days TLR could be also counted as underrated, at least here in Europe.
Kyosho has a pretty decent number of drivers repling the brand in the NW... and Phi just got 3rd in Nitro Buggy at ROAR Fuel Nationals... I think they could be a bit underrated though...
Ya buddy. Caster ETO821.2 driver checking in. More durable than a Tekno!
I used to be hardcore Losi & I still have my XX and XXT, but I feel like they are absent in 10th scale since being purchased. I got a deal on a TLR 22 5.0DC, but I don't really drive it too much. It drives fine and all but there was a time when you could not touch replacement arms for it. Overall I think it is easier to run my Associated stuff & they work well on the surface I am racing on right now.
Looking forward to this one! 🔥
I run serpent. They are the most solid chassis I've ever run...
I want to see a hog nor I a video it's interesting
I ran a pr 4wd buggy and mini truggy. Mini truggy was just as good as my X-ray and any tekno I’ve driven. 4wd lacked compared to my b74.1 but with a setup change I’m sure it would be just as good
Well done bro
HONG NOR.
Best quality cars. Extremely underrated. Parts can be still found online. Same brand as Ofna.
I've almost pulled the trigger a couple of times on a Yokomo 2whl buggy, so curious about them. Now that they are coming out with a "new" dirt version and I just sold my LD3 it's even more tempting. I have to keep reminding myself that I already have 2 B7Ds and a pre-order for the Agama N110...still kinda want a Yoke though lol
I switched from TLR to yokomo a year ago, they are really durable and the fit and finish rivals XRAY
Schumacher is definitely way under rated.
It's more like a mid road because it's huge in Europe.
Schumachers have always “just” been good enough for the European market but miserably failed when compared to American or even the Japanese cars worldwide. I think you hold the bar too low for Schumacher
@@joes2686 well know everyone knows that Schumacher is great but my hobby shop has no support and nobody in my club runs them really so I just don't have one. Like I said everyone here would like to be able to run a Schumacher but lack of parts support. For example almost nobody knows who serpent is. I only know because Amazon advertised them. Not a lot of people at your local club are going to know who serpent is
Love your videos bro
What about HotBodies?
where is this place.super good
Great video
Love that you're really exploring the industry. I'm in favor of whatever gets people out on the track. As always, love the videos.Seeing an over rated list would be awesome.
Does anyone remember Tenth Technology? The Predator model was way ahead of its time.
too weak in competition apparently but avantgardist design for the time 🙂
How can you not include Hong Nor?? They should have been 1st or 2nd on your list. Their factory manufactures parts for Agama, Mugen, Kyosho, IGT8 etc etc etc. Their own brand, Hong Nor Racing is also very very good especially their X3 platform (New Buggys due to drop in Q4 2024) and they are also GT8 world champions.
Loved Hong nor, had a X1-CR Pro and X1-CRT Pro at the time. They both was fantastic cars.
I have a CRT X1 and X3 Sabre buggy.
Good quality cars. Both are tanks
Why not HPI and their 1/8 scale Vorza Buggy/Truggy line?
They're more bashers based on old HB cars.
@@RoachRC Yeahh, true, I used to own one and tried to race one, xrays were doing laps around me, heavy like a brick.
HPI owns HB racing.. and their vorza line is meant to compete with stuff like Arrma typhon.. its a BASHER ..not meant for racing..
@@warmfreeze HPI hasn't owned HB for like 10 years at this point.
N1 is best car I've driven by a mile
If it was more affordable people would try more brands I bet
not everyone is so crazy to run 20 different brands as I was
I think for Racing Traxxas is very underrated
Traxxas do not have a car that is suitable for racing, there is n t much you can fine tune on those cars vs competition cars
@@benjiej1380 i would disagree i took a slash and had it running well in short course for shits and giggles so i had a random class to run while i did tech for a larger race
I’m in the uk, been racing a Yokomo since Jan 24, on carpet, I’m quicker with it than my Schumacher.
Severals brandsONLY sale in US😕the Kyosho and tamiya is the same and same problem in europe is the Spare parts in Lisboa i know severel RC store that dont work beacuse the Spare .parts they made a rc car and pass on severals moths dont make Spare parts and in Portugal is expensive
Thanks 👍and in usa the Kyosho and tamiya is a problem?? And yokomo??
My first RC car is a yokomo sgm 1/10 for use ONLY track and i use even today but it easy beacuse dont existe any Spare parts 🙂 in portuga yokomo sale but is the same problem .i know severals RC site thar sale Kyosho and tamiya and yokomo but .is another problem is portuguse costoms the Spare parts covert in euros is not expensive 💵 but En arrive in europe they raise the prize .beacuse is from outside from europe .e know european site thar sale Kyosho and tamiya and yokomo.and 🐍 serpent .they sales Soares parts but is expensive. And ONLY send not in normal mail but.in DHL thah raise more the prize 💵😕.in US the Spare parts ONLY send by DHL?
The Mayko sale in europe? I see in Mayko site thah the 1/8elec is sold out you know if they realize again ??This buggy??
xray...
man I just can't understand your words without subtitle, try another mic or something
Oof
Le kyosho sono veramente spazzatura...
Again?
I was wondering only yesterday what has happened to kyosho I always want a turbo optima mid se , and I own a v1s nitro road car I just don’t get how Tamiya has such a big following but kyosho does not the kyosho products where always far superior in every way except parts availability at least in Australia,that was due to the local distribututor being slack