McCullum has had 3 dismissals that way? I can remember 1 against Sri Lanka which he later publicly apologised for. I think you've invented 2 there. But you didn't say what YOU would have done in Cummins' position, you're just bringing up old stuff. I would have brought Bairstow back - what would you have done? i'm from NZ btw...
@@JimChap Baz also did it to Mpofu in 2005 (exact same dismissal as the Murali one) and didnt apologise, and also to Collingwood in 2009 Champions trophy (identical to how Carey threw the ball, Collingwood thought the ball was dead). Baz looks like a hypocrite and has a big chip on his shoulder. The whole blowup in the English media press was embarrassing.
One of the first rules you learn is to stay in your crease until the keeper has passed the ball and it's dead. He wouldn't leave the crease facing a spinner , same applies for pace bowler...
At the end of the day the ball is still live by virtue of Carey throwing it at the stumps, the umpire can't call the over with the ball in transit like that. Bairstow was asleep at the wheel, under 12's level stuff. Fair play.
thats is abusing the situation. the keeper can notice how fast the player is moving to the other end over after over and try to abuse the timing , so its purely unsportmanship
@@firstone7800 The ball had left Carey's hand and was on it's way before Bairstow had left the crease. Carey caught Bairstow and the umpires napping. They all assumed the ball was dead, The replay shows it clearly wasn't.
It's the end of the over when the umpires call "over." The umpires were unable to call over because the ball was caught and thrown in quick succession. The ball was still live and the right decision was made. If the thrown ball missed everything and went to the boundary, it's four runs fair and square.
If the ball had missed and gone for 4 runs, then England would have no problem accepting that. It is not as if a rule was broken by the immediate motion of throwing the ball at the stumps. Stop crying.
looking at the dismissal, first thing that strikes is that bairstow was out. he did it three times in a row n being playing at such a level, he should hv known better. Australia even though they got the technical out should have called him back just like MS Dhoni did when third umpire gave Ian Bell out run out when he thought the ball had gone for a boundary. Respect for MSD, no respect for Aussies.
@@macster1613 are you mad? As a batsman, there is only one thing to consider: protect your wicket. They teach you this when you play it growing up. Apart from the control you have with the bat, in terms of making sure not to hit it in a way to be caught out, your only other thing you have to worry about is your wicket. Until you have confirmation from the umpire the over is completed, you do everything you can to protect the stumps.
Everyones saying that it being the end of the over makes a massive difference, but forget that Bairstow wanded out of his 2-3 times in that same over. The end of the over had nothing to do with Bairstow being out of his creese
Bairstow taps his foot with his heel clearly in the crease BEFORE he walks. He did that throughout the over. That act alone should have have been recognised by the third umpire. He was not out.
@@thomridgeway1438 Bairstow can't unilaterally decide the ball is dead. His lack of awareness cost him his wicket and this whole "controversy" is totally contrived because he was caught out.
And Karma completes a full circle. McCullum had run out Murali in a similar way when Sangakkara needed one run for his century. The 2019 world cup was won within the rules and not the spirit too.
Firstly: McCullum wasn't playing for England, and he's not playing for England here either. Secondly: In the same over Bairstow had walked out of his crease and the wicket keeper hadn't acted the same way? Thirdly: McCullum apologised for his action against Murali.
@@samosemeinaloo Ha ha ha. everything you've said highlights the sh*ty atitude of the Australians. At least an apology was forthcoming. Perhaps the Aussies will now be on the receiving end of some un-sportsman like behaviour. Underarm blowling, thats OK I suppose? getting caught cheating and then crying like a baby on TV. Not for what you've done but for being caught. Now this?. It's a poor show and even more of a poor show from you, attempting to defend it.
Two things 1. Its a shame no body questioned Stokes if he wouldn't want to win that way, why did England attempt to win that way during this Test? 2. If you actually read the spirit of cricket the only people who breached it were the English. 'Respect your captain, team mates, opponents and the authority of the umpires. Play hard and play fair. Accept the umpires decision. Create a positive atmosphere by your own conduct and encourage others to do likewise. Show self-discipline when things go against you. Congratulate the opposition on their success and enjoy thise of your own team. Thank the officials and the opposition at the end of the maych whatever the result.'
But Ben has no problems with winning a World Cup when the ball hits his bat while he’s trying to make his ground and then rolls off for four runs. If he was such a custodian of the ‘spirt of cricket’ he should of allowed the next couple of deliveries to be dot balls…..
Problem wasn't Stokes' bat contacting with the ball and gone for four. That's still fair and square but the umpires made the wrong call by giving it 5 runs. It should just be counted 4 with Stokes on non-strikers end. I guess most of you guys are still in the dark for what was actually wrong with the world cup 2019 final match
To be fair, that was not in Stokes' control, and it would be silly to suggest he somehow did that on purpose. Bairstow's stumping is out at the end of the day, and is up to interpretation whether it is a way you would want to win a game or not. I'm sure other teams would have kept their appeal like Australia, and some would have withdrawn or the WK wouldn't want to get a batsman out like that in the first place. As an England fan, as frustrating as it may be, at the end of the day the rules are the rules and when the ball is live you should stay in your crease..
What an amazing difference between two captains. One accepts and carries on after a mitchell stark blunder the other plays the victim. I dont want to say it but man, these poms really are whingers
Come on man, it's not whinging, it's about fair play. As much as it's a battle for the Ashes, surely it should be played in the right spirit. Well done to you Aussies, you've been the better team so far.
It’s worth noting that Alex Carey collects the ball and throws it instantly- all in one motion. It’s all natural and instinctive. He isn’t waiting, in an attempt to deceive Bairstow, and then stumped him deviously. Don’t think the spirit-of-cricket argument even applies here.
Rubbish! If Cummins had any notion of fair play he could have asked the umpires to reconsider on the bais that the both batsman clearly thoughr the ball was dead.
It doesn’t matter when it happens Ben. First ball or last ball of the over. Bairstow was legitimately dismissed by stumping. Carey’s wicket keeping was outstanding work.
Well it does because at the end of an over, the whole field changes and the umpires move positions which they had started to - this doesn't happen during the over. At the end of every over, if this becomes the norm, then there could be loads of stumpings as this is what has happened for generations!
Carey threw the ball immediately at Bairstow’s stumps in attempt to have him stumped. He didn’t try and sneakily “run” him out between overs. Big difference
@@jarrodrkee7829 but he's taken advantage of what happens in every game in the land - at the end of the over all players have their chat in the middle while the field swaps over and the umpires change position. That's the issue.
@@problemchild1976 sure, but batters always deliberately make sure that they stay in the crease until the umpires call over, then move out. Going early like Bairstow did is at best presumptuous, at worst, arrogant and naive
@@smurf238 but batters feed off the umpires and fielders actions The umpires were off to their next positions and hadn't even really noted what was happening - same with the fielders initially.
If the wicket keeper had thrown the ball very hard then missed the stumps ,England could have run for 2 or 3 runs and that could have counted ,without a doubt ? 😮
There isn't and over hadn't been called. Bairstow was asleep and as a keeper who tries regularly to run people out he is a dope for letting this happen.
Well because if it's the end of the over then it's customary for batters to meet in the middle to meet and talk. Hence bairstows wandering would be more expected.than at any other time in the over.
Stokes is being disingenuous. The Bairstow throw at the stumps was just as quick as Carey's and it was also not a dead ball. He tries to make up a differentiation between the two to justify his hypocrisy.
The only person being disingenuous is Cummins.....Bairstow's throw at the stumps was in the middle pof overs when no-one had any reason to consider the ball dead. He can remember the instances but not how they occurred!
Yes but Warner came down the pitch at the bowler hence why bairstow threw at the stumps but bairstow was always in his crease and only left it because he thought it was over
@@clivelangman8696 Oh please. Batters leave their crease in the middle of overs all the time to move debris off the pitch, but they do it when the ball is dead. Stokes is making up excuses that it was the last ball of the over just to cover for Bairstow's stupidity.
the end of the over is a massive clutch at straws it makes no difference. If johnny got back to his crease and the ball hit the stumps and the two made a run the ball would still be alive then. I had great respect for Ben until now!
Brendon McCullum did the same thing for Muralitharan. His audacity to say he wouldn't have beer with Aussies baffles me. Murali's out was really unfair.
Bairstow has played long enough to know better...& the fact he was leaving his crease on more than 1 occasion made him fair game...but why didn’t his partner at the crease tell him ...I have no problem with Carey throwing the stumps in the one motion immediately he took the ball....& neither should the English.End of
I think the most obvious example is this: say it was a spinner who bowled, Bairstow doesn't hit it, it goes to the keeper right behind the stumps, Bairstow walks out of his crease, keeper lifts the bails... how is it any different just because it was a quick, and carey had to throw it from a few metres back. To steal a Thai reference - same same, not different.
There was a similar incident in a One Day match between a World 11 team and Australia in the 70's. After the final ball of the day's play, the batsman (was it Alvin Kallicharran?) left his crease to walk off before 'over' was called. He got stumped, and was OUT!
@@kennedysan1045Probably because it made it difficult for TV to cover it. Having a runner made things a lot more exciting as any one of the three could be run out.
If the ump didn’t call over then it’d totally the batsman’s fault and even if it wasn’t you should take the umpire’s decision and act like a gentleman the wicket keeper has done nothing wrong
Bairstow was still in his crease when Carey threw the ball, clearly not trying to take advantage, maybe a bit careless from Johnny. However the better team won, hopefully it won't diminish the series, but I think the Headingly crowd won't ease up on the Australian team.
Classic match! Very lively test cricket and competitive series where each match so far could've gone either way. A couple of crucial moments cost England DEARLY both times, now they've got a massive hill to climb to get the urn back. Bradman's team did it in 1936-7 I believe! Only time ever in test match cricket history.
It's a Monty Python sketch. "Yes we may have done it too but we would never do it on the last ball of the over...not the last ball you see...Any other ball is fine but it was the last ball of the over....The 4th or 5th would have been ok but certainly not the last ball!"
There were a lot more than three MCC members behaving abusively to the Australian players when they went in to lunch. If the MCC are sincere in wishing for the return of the spirit of cricket, they need to take action against everyone involved.
I think it's not wrong because Carey threw the ball just after receiving it, it's not like he waited for Jonny to talk with his partner.....also it is very much similar to stumping in case of spinners, so I personally don't think it's unfair
@@bonaranjha the ball was not dead and over had not been called. The keeper threw the ball at the stumps as soon as he gloved it so the play for that ball was still ongoing. The batsman in this case failed to pay attention to the situation, left his crease and got out. Its the umpires that decide when a ball is dead or an over has ended, not the actions of the batsman.
Its a bit of a storm in a tea cup. One motion, great play. Thing is he also caught the umpires napping, so um not sure whether their movements suggested end of over. End of the day noone would complain if Bairstow did it, i reckon, so DB learn your lesson and grudging well done WK.
What I don't understand is it's almost similar incident like bell incident that's time commenters think that's not out but this time they think it's out ....
Dude stop this hypocrisy from England. Ben Stokes literally won the WC when he dove and deflected a throw aimed at the stumps to the boundary. England should stop crying.
McCullum done it to Murali, when Murali left crease to congratulate Sangakarra on his 100. Aussies clearly upset about Starc non catch. Even the ex players were quick to bring it up yesterday
Nothing new here. Trying to justify a lost case. All the evidence and rules are against England, yet the pathetic excuses being made. When Bairstow does it its within the rules but when others do it, its the most hideous crime. Double standards. The England captain should be ashamed for clearly making the most lame excuses.
Also, think of it this way. Imagine the stumping was withdrawn and England won. It'd then be a hollow victory, wouldn't it? I mean, with one securely caught catch disallowed and one obvious stumping not given. Who would want to win like that?
that was not a catch, you cannot touch the ground with the ball and then claim it. if ur falling, u r not in control, once u hit the ground with the ball, its not out. Bairstow is foolish to do what he did but Aus should hv called him back like msd.
I think the bigger talking point was Stokes innings. He was fed by slow short bowling on a small oval and didn’t shy away in taking his chances. Great viewing. Not to mention the extra millions of views and talking points going on around the whole sporting world! Great to to see a bit of agro going on. People are t completely soulless and pathetic yet! If only we’d all hold our corrupt government to this high a bar!
This is the exact reason why I don't get the controversy - wasn't attempting a run, therefore it's a regulation stumping, just as if the bowler was a spinner.
They didn’t have a problem when they did it to NZ and McCallum himself has done it 3 times in his career
Different, they had time to think about bowling a grubber??? Its not even the same..... stay in your crease, every kid learns that in Australia
No spirit of game when u won World Cup.Within rules it is win that counts in history
McCullum has had 3 dismissals that way? I can remember 1 against Sri Lanka which he later publicly apologised for. I think you've invented 2 there. But you didn't say what YOU would have done in Cummins' position, you're just bringing up old stuff. I would have brought Bairstow back - what would you have done? i'm from NZ btw...
@@JimChap Baz also did it to Mpofu in 2005 (exact same dismissal as the Murali one) and didnt apologise, and also to Collingwood in 2009 Champions trophy (identical to how Carey threw the ball, Collingwood thought the ball was dead). Baz looks like a hypocrite and has a big chip on his shoulder. The whole blowup in the English media press was embarrassing.
One of the first rules you learn is to stay in your crease until the keeper has passed the ball and it's dead. He wouldn't leave the crease facing a spinner , same applies for pace bowler...
…I have no idea what you just said 😂
@jammyjamjars6995 Your not to
Bright are you ? and the two Nobs
That agreed with you and gave you
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At the end of the day the ball is still live by virtue of Carey throwing it at the stumps, the umpire can't call the over with the ball in transit like that. Bairstow was asleep at the wheel, under 12's level stuff. Fair play.
thats is abusing the situation. the keeper can notice how fast the player is moving to the other end over after over and try to abuse the timing , so its purely unsportmanship
@@firstone7800 The ball had left Carey's hand and was on it's way before Bairstow had left the crease. Carey caught Bairstow and the umpires napping. They all assumed the ball was dead, The replay shows it clearly wasn't.
@@jimmyjames7667 australia shouldn't have appealed/cancelled the appeal in that case.
Sprit of cricket reduced to ashes
@@jimmyjames7667it’s pretty much the same sort of thing as a mankad. It shouldn’t be done
It's the end of the over when the umpires call "over." The umpires were unable to call over because the ball was caught and thrown in quick succession. The ball was still live and the right decision was made.
If the thrown ball missed everything and went to the boundary, it's four runs fair and square.
Don't do that! Its logic!
If the ball had missed and gone for 4 runs, then England would have no problem accepting that. It is not as if a rule was broken by the immediate motion of throwing the ball at the stumps. Stop crying.
@@hilberryable who's crying? The ball was live and Bairstow was out. Just a fact.
but the umpires had turned their backs..
@@jimmyjames7667 Who's crying? Most of England.
Didn't have any problem winning a world cup with a technicality
Yes but that wasn’t deliberate
Man I was thinking of the same thing 😂
@@percyfisher6335 salty 🧂🧂🧂
@@percyfisher6335 Yeah but Athertons cheating was
@@percyfisher6335yes but in the “spirit of cricket” England should have refused the runs
Defend your wicket. Fail to do that and you’re out. That’s the spirit of cricket.
Short, sweet and correct!!
looking at the dismissal, first thing that strikes is that bairstow was out. he did it three times in a row n being playing at such a level, he should hv known better. Australia even though they got the technical out should have called him back just like MS Dhoni did when third umpire gave Ian Bell out run out when he thought the ball had gone for a boundary. Respect for MSD, no respect for Aussies.
@@macster1613 are you mad? As a batsman, there is only one thing to consider: protect your wicket. They teach you this when you play it growing up. Apart from the control you have with the bat, in terms of making sure not to hit it in a way to be caught out, your only other thing you have to worry about is your wicket. Until you have confirmation from the umpire the over is completed, you do everything you can to protect the stumps.
Everyones saying that it being the end of the over makes a massive difference, but forget that Bairstow wanded out of his 2-3 times in that same over. The end of the over had nothing to do with Bairstow being out of his creese
Bairstow taps his foot with his heel clearly in the crease BEFORE he walks. He did that throughout the over. That act alone should have have been recognised by the third umpire. He was not out.
@@thomridgeway1438 Bairstow can't unilaterally decide the ball is dead. His lack of awareness cost him his wicket and this whole "controversy" is totally contrived because he was caught out.
@@thomridgeway1438well, I wasn’t aware of the foot tapping law I’ll have to look that one up 😂
@@thomridgeway1438by your logic he could do that at any point of the ball being delivered and call that the end of the over or ball. Actually 🤡 logic
@@thomridgeway1438four ex-England captains disagree with you (Eoin Morgan, Atherton, Strauss, Vaughan)
And Karma completes a full circle. McCullum had run out Murali in a similar way when Sangakkara needed one run for his century. The 2019 world cup was won within the rules and not the spirit too.
Firstly: McCullum wasn't playing for England, and he's not playing for England here either. Secondly: In the same over Bairstow had walked out of his crease and the wicket keeper hadn't acted the same way? Thirdly: McCullum apologised for his action against Murali.
@@samosemeinaloo Ha ha ha. everything you've said highlights the sh*ty atitude of the Australians. At least an apology was forthcoming. Perhaps the Aussies will now be on the receiving end of some un-sportsman like behaviour. Underarm blowling, thats OK I suppose? getting caught cheating and then crying like a baby on TV. Not for what you've done but for being caught. Now this?.
It's a poor show and even more of a poor show from you, attempting to defend it.
Nah 2019 was outside the rules
@@sandwormgod4771cope
@@sandwormgod4771after reture😅
The hunter got hunted. Johnny did it so many times
This is the Australia I knew growing up hard and tough with great sense of awareness to go to any extent to win ❤
Two things
1. Its a shame no body questioned Stokes if he wouldn't want to win that way, why did England attempt to win that way during this Test?
2. If you actually read the spirit of cricket the only people who breached it were the English.
'Respect your captain, team mates, opponents and the authority of the umpires.
Play hard and play fair.
Accept the umpires decision.
Create a positive atmosphere by your own conduct and encourage others to do likewise.
Show self-discipline when things go against you.
Congratulate the opposition on their success and enjoy thise of your own team.
Thank the officials and the opposition at the end of the maych whatever the result.'
But Ben has no problems with winning a World Cup when the ball hits his bat while he’s trying to make his ground and then rolls off for four runs. If he was such a custodian of the ‘spirt of cricket’ he should of allowed the next couple of deliveries to be dot balls…..
Angry face behind smiling mask meme
Problem wasn't Stokes' bat contacting with the ball and gone for four. That's still fair and square but the umpires made the wrong call by giving it 5 runs. It should just be counted 4 with Stokes on non-strikers end. I guess most of you guys are still in the dark for what was actually wrong with the world cup 2019 final match
He even told the umpire not to give extra four runs but the umpire didn't listen to him
@@mohammedumarfarhan9900r u kidding me😂only u r the one who listened that in this world😂
To be fair, that was not in Stokes' control, and it would be silly to suggest he somehow did that on purpose. Bairstow's stumping is out at the end of the day, and is up to interpretation whether it is a way you would want to win a game or not. I'm sure other teams would have kept their appeal like Australia, and some would have withdrawn or the WK wouldn't want to get a batsman out like that in the first place. As an England fan, as frustrating as it may be, at the end of the day the rules are the rules and when the ball is live you should stay in your crease..
Mccallum did a similar to sangakara. Now he has issues with it.
Its got nothing to do with end of the over. Bairatow had done the same thing for the 3 balls leading up to that.
What an amazing difference between two captains. One accepts and carries on after a mitchell stark blunder the other plays the victim. I dont want to say it but man, these poms really are whingers
He is a kiwi but I get your point.
Didn't seem to mind when Bairstow did the same thing in the innings before.
Poms are renowned worldwide as whingers-hypocrites too
Come on man, it's not whinging, it's about fair play.
As much as it's a battle for the Ashes, surely it should be played in the right spirit.
Well done to you Aussies, you've been the better team so far.
I Think you'd be dissapointed as well after you scored 155 runs in phonetic fashion and after all that hard work you lose - so shut up
PLEASE :: Check when BAIRSTOW tried to do the very same thing to WARNER ! In THIS GAME!!!!
Bairstow was in his crease when Carey threw it.
Just checked, didn't happen
Bairstow tried it with Labuschagne in the second innings, 30th over.
The Aussie skipper comes over as genuine with a sound reflection of events, Our skipper is full of 'waffle tosh' and is going to get us 'Richarded'
Broad doesn't have a leg to stand on after he smashed it to first slip
Bright light could seeeeee that he edged it to Michael Clarke, but not Aleem
He's a professional troll and nobody should take him seriously
It’s worth noting that Alex Carey collects the ball and throws it instantly- all in one motion. It’s all natural and instinctive. He isn’t waiting, in an attempt to deceive Bairstow, and then stumped him deviously. Don’t think the spirit-of-cricket argument even applies here.
Rubbish! If Cummins had any notion of fair play he could have asked the umpires to reconsider on the bais that the both batsman clearly thoughr the ball was dead.
@@clivelangman8696 I assumed the money in the bank was for me, so im allowed to go and take it, just because I THOUGHT i was allowed to ?
come on mate
@@clivelangman8696 gee I thought I hit it high enough to go over your head and you caught it! You sir are not a cricketer!
@@clivelangman8696 keep crying aus 2-0
Should also be noted that Bairstow was still in his crease when the ball was thrown.
Stokes response to this was pathetic Real shame after such a great innings from him
It doesn’t matter when it happens Ben. First ball or last ball of the over. Bairstow was legitimately dismissed by stumping. Carey’s wicket keeping was outstanding work.
Well it does because at the end of an over, the whole field changes and the umpires move positions which they had started to - this doesn't happen during the over.
At the end of every over, if this becomes the norm, then there could be loads of stumpings as this is what has happened for generations!
Carey threw the ball immediately at Bairstow’s stumps in attempt to have him stumped. He didn’t try and sneakily “run” him out between overs. Big difference
@@jarrodrkee7829 but he's taken advantage of what happens in every game in the land - at the end of the over all players have their chat in the middle while the field swaps over and the umpires change position.
That's the issue.
@@problemchild1976 sure, but batters always deliberately make sure that they stay in the crease until the umpires call over, then move out. Going early like Bairstow did is at best presumptuous, at worst, arrogant and naive
@@smurf238 but batters feed off the umpires and fielders actions
The umpires were off to their next positions and hadn't even really noted what was happening - same with the fielders initially.
If the wicket keeper had thrown the ball very hard then missed the stumps ,England could have run for 2 or 3 runs and that could have counted ,without a doubt ? 😮
Why were Eng allowed to bowl 98% bouncers for hours when you're only allowed 2 per over?
Neutral 3rd umpire said he was out.🙂
Why would there be a “massive difference” between the first five balls and the sixth?
There isn't and over hadn't been called. Bairstow was asleep and as a keeper who tries regularly to run people out he is a dope for letting this happen.
Well because if it's the end of the over then it's customary for batters to meet in the middle to meet and talk. Hence bairstows wandering would be more expected.than at any other time in the over.
Because that's what you say after a long pause trying to make an excuse.
@@sambeckingsale2542 No he made it a habit to leave his crease. He got himself out by his own complacency.
@@sambeckingsale2542you know they showed footage of him doing the exact same thing the previous 2 deliveries
What did Ollie Pope think of this dismissal . He would have said "No Comment " FOR OBVIOUS REASONS !!!!!
This is not an argument, Whataboutry
Stokes is being disingenuous. The Bairstow throw at the stumps was just as quick as Carey's and it was also not a dead ball. He tries to make up a differentiation between the two to justify his hypocrisy.
The only person being disingenuous is Cummins.....Bairstow's throw at the stumps was in the middle pof overs when no-one had any reason to consider the ball dead. He can remember the instances but not how they occurred!
@@clivelangman8696 Sounds like you are moving the goal posts so you can cry controversy
Yes but Warner came down the pitch at the bowler hence why bairstow threw at the stumps but bairstow was always in his crease and only left it because he thought it was over
@@clivelangman8696 Oh please. Batters leave their crease in the middle of overs all the time to move debris off the pitch, but they do it when the ball is dead. Stokes is making up excuses that it was the last ball of the over just to cover for Bairstow's stupidity.
@@clivelangman8696 The ball is dead between balls under the same rules and sportsmanship as the end of an over. Your argument has no merit
Had no problem receiving extra 4 runs while deflecting the ball to the boundary.
No controversy at all. Bairstow was out. Poms are sore losers. End of story.
You lot still have the cheating mentality, that's why we sent your forefathers to Australia, cheats will always be cheats it's in you jeans.
Such a bunch of sooks.
Like Glen McGrath the previous day?
Sure, if I helps you get over your hysteria.
@@PD-gt7on 🤣yeah, that's what it is. No better way to win an argument than to start the "no, you are" comments. Brilliant.
Your absolutely right mate... dont even see the reason why it was reviewed
the end of the over is a massive clutch at straws it makes no difference. If johnny got back to his crease and the ball hit the stumps and the two made a run the ball would still be alive then. I had great respect for Ben until now!
Same. I am English and am ashamed that they have to make excuses for such things when Bens argument was irrelevant
One of those is a truly astounding and great cricketer and a sportsman - the other is just a cricketer!
Bairstow is an embarrassment and Stokes is a hypocrite, this should damage their legacies more than Cummins and Carey.
Rub some sandpaper in yer balls mate!
If Cummins was being truthful he would have admitted to it being a planned move on the end of the over.
Hot Dog Bairstow , the Harry Maguire of cricket.Hahahaha
That's right Ben....the umpires hadn't called OVER....it makes ZERO DIFFERENCE which ball it was.
Carey threw the ball immediately, no problem at all , out 👍
To be honest Carey threw the ball immediately, I think it was a fair dismissal if not unfortunate.
Totally Bairstow's fault. This is basic stuff that he forgot to do.
Brendon McCullum did the same thing for Muralitharan. His audacity to say he wouldn't have beer with Aussies baffles me. Murali's out was really unfair.
Bairstow has played long enough to know better...& the fact he was leaving his crease on more than 1 occasion made him fair game...but why didn’t his partner at the crease tell him ...I have no problem with Carey throwing the stumps in the one motion immediately he took the ball....& neither should the English.End of
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I think the most obvious example is this: say it was a spinner who bowled, Bairstow doesn't hit it, it goes to the keeper right behind the stumps, Bairstow walks out of his crease, keeper lifts the bails... how is it any different just because it was a quick, and carey had to throw it from a few metres back. To steal a Thai reference - same same, not different.
It's different, because when Carey threw the ball, Bairstow was in his crease
English cricketers whining after losing a match is not uncommon.
There was a similar incident in a One Day match between a World 11 team and Australia in the 70's. After the final ball of the day's play, the batsman (was it Alvin Kallicharran?) left his crease to walk off before 'over' was called. He got stumped, and was OUT!
Funny how they talk about fair play but they denied Lyons having a runner when he went out to bat....
Where have you been? runners don't exist anymore
@@kennedysan1045Probably because it made it difficult for TV to cover it.
Having a runner made things a lot more exciting as any one of the three could be run out.
Funny how runners aren't allowed in international cricket, haven't been for 12 years, and you don't know that..... and make a a false accusation.
Support to Aussies..Make This atleast 4-1 if not 5-0..
If the ump didn’t call over then it’d totally the batsman’s fault and even if it wasn’t you should take the umpire’s decision and act like a gentleman the wicket keeper has done nothing wrong
How could the Umpires have called over when the ball was still in play ? When Carey caught the ball it was a fluid motion return back to the stumps !
Bairstow was still in his crease when Carey threw the ball, clearly not trying to take advantage, maybe a bit careless from Johnny. However the better team won, hopefully it won't diminish the series, but I think the Headingly crowd won't ease up on the Australian team.
"Winner celebrates and the loser complains."
Typical media. Focus on a controversial negative instead of applauding Australias and indeed Englands fightback efforts.
Classic match! Very lively test cricket and competitive series where each match so far could've gone either way. A couple of crucial moments cost England DEARLY both times, now they've got a massive hill to climb to get the urn back. Bradman's team did it in 1936-7 I believe! Only time ever in test match cricket history.
You means Stokes efforts before he blew it with his sooky lala at the post match interview.
english media is aids
Ben stokes is the guy who won the World Cup for England by hitting the ball to boundary while running. Where was the spirit of cricket then?😂😂😂
1:11 he's giving us all the finger
It's a Monty Python sketch. "Yes we may have done it too but we would never do it on the last ball of the over...not the last ball you see...Any other ball is fine but it was the last ball of the over....The 4th or 5th would have been ok but certainly not the last ball!"
Stokes won the world cup with something like that happening 😂
Stokes lying. He know he would have done the same thing as Cummings. Come on!
100%
I call it equal with Starc's catch taken away .Stop whinging , Poms .
LOL, seems between Starc and Bairstow we got two for the price of one.
In Starc's 'catch' trhe ball clearly travelled along the ground!
Lol, was never a catch
@@kennedysan1045 Yup, & Bairstow was stumped.
The " Gingerbread Man " incident.
Caused a massive princess meltdown of England.
Excellent w/keeping.
Lol, it’s a legitimate way to get out. You were out. Stay in your crease, not hard.
Oh look, Pom’s whinging again typical
They do every time they lose
Aussies cheating again
Ben stokes with the sneaky middle finger 🤣🤣🤣
shock horror there is adifference between the end of an over and an over still in play... who would have thought that
Got no respect for Stokes or McCallum. Hypocrites.
There were a lot more than three MCC members behaving abusively to the Australian players when they went in to lunch. If the MCC are sincere in wishing for the return of the spirit of cricket, they need to take action against everyone involved.
I think it's not wrong because Carey threw the ball just after receiving it, it's not like he waited for Jonny to talk with his partner.....also it is very much similar to stumping in case of spinners, so I personally don't think it's unfair
Always keep your hands up!
It’s happened, it’s now over and I do hope the British media will now leave it alone. Somehow I doubt they will.
Wining Winging POMs ! !
Jonny got a whiff of the Devon.
HG Nelson.
He's out...end of story...
Didn't the poms say they were gonna win by 150?
🤣🤣🤣
Yeah and apparently they're already leading the series 2-0
Interesting hand gesture by Stokes at 1.11...
Yeah, I noticed that, too.
So Stokes thinks you can't stump batsmen out on the last ball of the over? That's just not cricket.
do u stump someone out if he touched his foot to make a stance and clearly went out to talk 😂
@@bonaranjha the ball was not dead and over had not been called. The keeper threw the ball at the stumps as soon as he gloved it so the play for that ball was still ongoing. The batsman in this case failed to pay attention to the situation, left his crease and got out. Its the umpires that decide when a ball is dead or an over has ended, not the actions of the batsman.
@@bonaranjha the umpires disagree with you
The smirk on his face tells you everything you need to know
No difference between the last ball of the over or any of the others. Stokes is clutching at staws to justify his whinging.
Its a bit of a storm in a tea cup. One motion, great play. Thing is he also caught the umpires napping, so um not sure whether their movements suggested end of over. End of the day noone would complain if Bairstow did it, i reckon, so DB learn your lesson and grudging well done WK.
Johnnies tried heaps of times. What a hypocrite
What I don't understand is it's almost similar incident like bell incident that's time commenters think that's not out but this time they think it's out ....
I am with Pat Cummins
Oh You wonderful beings, this is beautiful! Loving this! ❤
Don't go walkabout. Great game though 👏
England ran out Colin DeGrandhome last year under identical circumstances. Hypocritical and I'm a kiwi
Dude stop this hypocrisy from England. Ben Stokes literally won the WC when he dove and deflected a throw aimed at the stumps to the boundary. England should stop crying.
Umpire deemed it out after watching replays. Right decision was made. End of story.
McCullum done it to Murali, when Murali left crease to congratulate Sangakarra on his 100. Aussies clearly upset about Starc non catch. Even the ex players were quick to bring it up yesterday
Nothing new here. Trying to justify a lost case. All the evidence and rules are against England, yet the pathetic excuses being made. When Bairstow does it its within the rules but when others do it, its the most hideous crime. Double standards. The England captain should be ashamed for clearly making the most lame excuses.
Also, think of it this way. Imagine the stumping was withdrawn and England won. It'd then be a hollow victory, wouldn't it? I mean, with one securely caught catch disallowed and one obvious stumping not given. Who would want to win like that?
that was not a catch, you cannot touch the ground with the ball and then claim it. if ur falling, u r not in control, once u hit the ground with the ball, its not out. Bairstow is foolish to do what he did but Aus should hv called him back like msd.
@@macster1613 Fair enough. Strictly by the rules for the catch. The stumping is strictly by the rules too.
Bairstow should’ve focused staying in his crease rather than being a hero for carrying some pipsqueak anti-oil protestor off the pitch.
They do not have any complaints about winning the world cup on technicality tho.
Is it common though, when the batter is initially standing in their crease.
Poms don’t understand, never will
who punched cummins in the eye lol?
Stokes dint request the umpires to over turn thier decision for the 4 run over throw in the world cup final here is pure hypocrisy 😂
Someone should have asked him this question in this interview.
I think the bigger talking point was Stokes innings. He was fed by slow short bowling on a small oval and didn’t shy away in taking his chances. Great viewing. Not to mention the extra millions of views and talking points going on around the whole sporting world! Great to to see a bit of agro going on. People are t completely soulless and pathetic yet! If only we’d all hold our corrupt government to this high a bar!
it's a rules, rules were prepared keeping the spirit in mind one believe,, it's given out, end of debate
The bit I don’t get is they called the decision stumped....
Should it be technically run out?!
Not attempting a run - NO! Stumped is correct call.
There was no run attempted that's probably why
No he was just out of his crease before the ball was called dead. He was not running.
This is the exact reason why I don't get the controversy - wasn't attempting a run, therefore it's a regulation stumping, just as if the bowler was a spinner.
I just watched it back on Sky and both Mark Taylor and Eoin Morgan called it as ‘Run out’,maybe this is where the controversy is...?
It was not cheating... interesting thing that Bairstow had done it a number of times himself 😂😂.... really simple solution Johnny stay in your crease
not cheating, just bad sportsmanship.
Has anyone seen the Bairstow stumping of Samit Patel?
England are just making excuses after yet another humiliating defeat.
If it was within the rules it's justified and it was, so England players and pundits need to stop whinging.....and I'm English.