@@cattreegaming6220 Yeah I didn't think the Movie would diminish the brand, but it absolutely has for me 😐 It was so bad it makes me question Gearbox completely after already doubting them over how bad Borderlands 3 and Wonderlands are compared to Borderlands 2.
I do onelife a lot well was doing it like few years ago now (I gotta start again) but man I still remember that whole dlc lol fun af also I died to the boss and remember being like what the fuck 🤣
Borderlands 2 is what made me understand how strangely aggressive life could be at a young age. And borderlands pre sequel made me love the beauty and mechanics of borderlands.
My friends and I really didn't like Wonderlands at all. Even on Hard Mode the game was trivially easy. Most bosses took less than 20 seconds. The map design was also notably bad. It felt like fight room after fight room after fight room, with very little thought put into any downtime between them.
@@darionmcclinton351 no not at all. I mean it‘s not actually a Borderlands game and it felt completely different. Story was technically better but that’s it. DLCs suck very badly in the endgame was more repetitive than BL3 at the end of the day.
The day they can craft a villain on the level as Handsome Jack (in all aspects) will be the day they’ll be back on top. Handsome Jack is honestly just perfect
@@slimmortal213 that's pretty pedantic. I play and replay borderlands a ton, but I don't really engage with the post game at all. Id rather just start up a new character instead.
I really liked the base game, but the dlcs were ass, i hate the dungeons in that game, and i was dumb enough to preorder it for $100 since i thought they would be story dlcs.
@@Smuglicense9359 Im in the same boat. I haven't even touched the dlc's after I found out what they were. Maybe they're alright but I really don't know why focus wasn't put on making them campaigns.
@@salvatoredali4384 your a minority. End game has literally always been what keeps people coming back, it's why 3 flopped at release ( other than story ) and people were constantly asking where's raid bosses? You may not enjoy it but people LOVE farming. Pre sequel failed for this exact reason as well
Glad your willing to say all the good things about borderlands 3, because there’s so much to like there. Just mute the audio and the game is good, my only problem really with it is that because you get legendaries so often you practically never use anything else and gray and green weapons are never even close to necessary, which makes the game way too easy
Whole heartedly agree the story of 3 is ass however that being said letting the story completely ruin it for you is kinda weird for a Borderlands game. The improvements to gameplay from the gun uniqueness, level design, vh builds, etc easily put BL3 in top 3 catagory.
I personally put bl3 in number 1. The story is ass of course but after 450h, I still have extreme fun with the gameplay and im planning to put another 100-200h into it.
@@courier-ec6zj I think, that's where preferences come in. Your favourite games can be the games, you think are the best, even though they aren't the best. I just love bl3 and the gameplay personally makes up for the story. But I'm not everyone, so I can't speak for everyone.
I started BL3 about a week ago and have been having a blast with it. I've only ever played BL2, Pre-Sequel, and now BL3. Played the hell out of BL2 on Mac back in the day, and then played the hell out of it again on Nintendo Switch. BL3 on PS5 now, but yes, BL2 is the best.
If you aren't intrested in the story start with BL3 it has the best gameplay If you want split screen 4 coop play borderlands 2 If you enjoyed telltale games try tales from borderlands it's their best work But I recommend buying the Borderlands collection Pandora's box . It has all the games combined for cheap price
I really didnt like borderlands the first time i played it. I played borderlands 1 a long time ago, split screen with someone, and just could not get into it About a week ago though, my husband and i decided to try borderlands 2 together -- i am in LOVE with this series, 1 through 3, obsessed. We beat borderlands 2, are in the middle of the pre sequal, and when 3 wants to work (lag) its so satifying, and i love the characters! Personally my ranking is: (from best to worst) Borderlands 2 Borderlands 3 Pre sequel Borderlands 1
Well i can see how it is bland after later games since it doesn't have as many skills but im not a fan of BL3 because of cringe it is. I don't really like the pre sequel because i didn't like the setting and characters as much. I also loved that in BL1 the enemies could carry really cool random weapons that they drop when killed. I never played the Tiny Tina game and it does look pretty good so I need to give it a shot.
It’s crazy how you put the original so low without playing the DLC. The DLC alone make the first one so good just like 2. I personally think borderlands 1 is better than 3 almost because of the DLC alone. Good list in all other regards though. CLAPTRAP!
It objectively makes a lot of sense, considering both Wonderlands and Borderlands 3 have a lot more going for them than the first game, despite them not being the best sequels
Is it really though? Even when it came out, the first 6 or so hours were rough. And once it does get going, it's still not as fun as the others. The writing that's there isn't annoying like Borderlands 3 but that's about it. It was the first one so people have an attachment to it but if you were to just ask a new player to play them, #6 probably isn't an unfair ranking.
@@idakevif you ask a new player of any genre they’d say the new ones are better that’s a stupid point my man. As someone who’s played these since bl 1 countless times it’s 10x better than the most recent games and much more enjoyable to go and replay Since I platinumed 3 and wonderlands I haven’t bothered going back because they just ruin what borderlands should be
@@liamsherratt3618 Not true. Borderlands 2 came out 12 years ago and is still considered the best by newcomers. New games are not automatically considered better. *Particularly for this franchise, you've made a very weak point.* New games actually have to do more things better to be considered better. B1's problem isn't just that it's old, it's that it was the minimum viable product whereas B2 was where everything truly came together and was fully realised. So over a decade later it's still holding the line. Poor pacing in the first half was a huge problem with Borderlands 1 in 2009.
the first six hours is like the best part most people have an issue with the second half of the game which is slow and a little tedious but still better than tps 3 and wonderlands no question
@@idakev we’re not talking about 2 here. I fully agree 2 is by far the best. My point is most new olayers who come into games now will think the new ones are better just as we’ve seen with assassins creed and call of duty. I’ve seen far too many people shit on the games that carried the franchise. 1 is still much better than the newer ones, never said it was better than borderlands 2. Plus the first half of 2 is definitely not poorly paced. Played it a few weeks back and I’m not sure where you think that’s poorly paced. Also it’s DLCs are far better than anything 3 or wonderlands came out with
New Tales from the Borderlands is written like how the “alt right” perceives what “the left” think is peak fiction- but it isn’t being ironic even in the slightest…
except leftists think exactly like that and love it lmfao leftist fan fiction on what the right wants always looks like a paradise compared to what they want or even what exists now.
Borderlands 1 is my most favorite in the series. Your complaints are actually my praises. Love the free roaming, work at your own pace adventure. Feels like a treasure hunt in the wild west. My go to cozy game.
The teaser trailer they had for Borderlands 3 was so amazing. It looked like they were going to make a more serious game and story. And all the characters looked badass and gritty in that trailer. Then the actual Game drops, and EVERYONE is obnoxious, empty, ugly, screaming, not funny, forced to either be heroes or to be just ridiculous villains with annoying voices, like there's zero in between, there's ZERO interesting nuanced characters or anything, they're all just annoying, self righteous pricks ALL of them. Really wish they had matured the series instead and actually let the villains be serious for Borderlands 3. You can still have plenty of jokes, humor, slapstick etc. But they really could have just let the villains BE badass and not a total JOKE as well 🤦🏻♂
Claptrap I personally disagree with you on Pre-sequel, because it's my favourite BL game (after Tales). Sure it didn't reinvent the series or anything like that, but all the new things introduced I strongly enjoyed. Low gravity - for me it's fun to jump all around Oz kits/Jet pack - while I think Relics are more fun, because of all the diversity, I think OZ's were more interesting in concept(like having better damege, accuracy, speed depending on oxygen, so if there were slightly more types of them, I would enjoy them more) And slammig, double jumping, hovering is fun. It made the movement more enjoyable. Grinder - being able to craft weapons and other items, was a great addition. Would love if the improved upon it in BL3 Cryo - like i really hope everyone agrees it's more fun then slag And Glitch weapon rarity is the most interesting rarity in series. It's sad that also didn't made it into BL3 And then there are the Vault hunters, which are personally my favourites in series. So if it wasn't for the almost non existing endgame, it would be basically the perfect Borderlands game for me. There's more I would say about this game, but it would be harder for me to stop. But like I respect your opinions and i understand not everyone likes low gravity.
Yeah man, borderlands is a series that means so much to me, is what really got me into single player FPS games and i have played most of them multiple times ever since (except the tale games) So thats exactly how i would rank em. 1. Borderlands 2 (Best story) 2. Borderlands 3 (Best gameplay) 3. Wonderlands (Best graphics) 4. Borderlands (OG) 5. The Presequel (Still great but not as much) Thanks!
B1 and b2 are connected that’s how 25:07 handsome jack become the villain she (angel) is handsome jack daughter she got the first vault hunter to open the vault so jack could use that power but she never wanted that so in b2 she sacrificed herself to save them but jack still opens the vault then that’s how they find out there more out there just like this bc the second pair of vault hunters were guided by the first vault hunters an jack face is messed up cause by litith powers I believe in b1
Let's be honest here bro BL1 is my favorite in the franchise and if it wasn't successful there wouldn't be a Borderlands franchise to begin with because if it had failed and sold little to no copies they'll be no precious BL2 and beyond, also the Dlc's of BL1 made the overall full game experience way better in my opinion but it's your video and I respect your opinion.
I would like to give some appreciation to Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel. I have more than 1k hours in bl2, 100 in bl1 and almost 300 in the pre sequel. I can confirm it has some of the weakest side quests, but there are some key points that make the game better than what most people think: The characters feel so unique to me. Athena and Nisha are the characters that i played the least, but the touch on wilhelm changing his aspect as you progress on his modifications is amazing, claptrap is so bad yet sooooo funny to play with, and the dlc characters, aurelia is kinda meh (though is a freezing beast and to me, freezing is the most op thing in this game), and Timothy (jack's double) it's one of the most unique and op characters in all the franchise. Also, would like to mention Aurelia has a really unique skill tree focused on coop, but i only played this game alone. NPC's have special dialogues depending on the character, which leads to more jokes and it is a really nice touch. The DLC, omg, the claptastic's voyage might be the best DLC in the whole franchise with dragon's keep DLC. The concept and the gameplay is a nostalgia slap to the fans. I feel this game has the problem of being released after Bordelands 2, since most people, as Jonathan said, think it's a worse version of bl2 and leave the game. Everyone should give some love to this game since the more you play it the better it feels.
About the end of last year, I played it and thought it was on level with bl2. I dont know why people hated it so much. If only they didn't, we could have had even more dlcs, but 2K Australia actually shut down after they stopped touching the game, so I sadly think they can't really come back to it like bl2 with the fight for sanctuary dlc, because the studio is gone so I don't think they can actually do anything with the game. (I might be wrong, though.)
@@xavipacheco802 Pre sequel still sucks. Majority of fans play to farm gear and pre sequel farming is pure liquid ass/none existent. It's a huge reason it failed.
@@OWO_EDITS because it's not a good bl game. It has no real end game except the raid boss, farming was none existent till they added some loot pools but it wasn't enough. It was a rush job and clearly so. If you make farming and end game completely boring you loose the majority of fans. Wonderlands people say is a good game but they hated end game.
@lilpain1997 I guess it depends on what gear you wish to farm for. I really like the sniper that Swagman drops as well as the ease of bonus package from the Torks. You can usually get those items quite quickly from one to another. I would have liked to have seen more legendaries added to the loot pool from Iwajira however, as the Thingy sucks and is only vending fodder. I can see why people say it sucks but I found the balancing to be better in TPS, and I also quite liked Holodome, especially the badass round.
As a Borderlands lover...for over a decade...and a constant Borderlands YT streamer...I could not, like literally, could not find EVEN ONE, thing that I did not agree with in this video...In my opinion, BL2 is THE best game, and my single most favorite game of ALL TIME!!! This video and your commentary are 100% Gold....I enjoyed it very much...
I'm not trying to come at you, but not playing the bl1 dlc and making this video just discredits you imho. That combined with ranking the pre-sequel over bl1 is not exactly something that I think I could be persuaded to agree with, nostalgia aside. On another note, bl1 had an insane amount of hype. Anyone who liked games was hyped about the first game ever to be advertised as having over one million different pew-pews in it. Later we realized it was just an FPS Diablo-style loot system, but in a good way. I remember getting the Gameinformer with the original (realistic) borderlands artwork on the cover with the buggy and the bandits on it so you knew the multi-page article in the middle was going to be about Borderlands. They also had Cage the Elephant's "Ain't no Rest for the Wicked" for their gameplay trailer which drew a lot of attention at the time. I also disagree with some other rankings but I get that's mostly subjective unless we have some kind of ranking standard to go by.
Good ranking man i am new to borderlands and have started with the pre sequel in 2024 ..should probably have started with 2 but didnt know ..personally i have loved tps and im looking forward to 2 & 3 ..i think in total i paid £12 for the handsome collection (pre sequel & 2 and a lot of their dlc) and the borderlands 3 discs all on ps4. Pretty amazing deal for the amount of content really lol. TPS looks and runs really nice on my ps4 too though it does make the console LOUD at times when there are loads of explosions and lasers and digital worlds on screen.
Dude, almost word for word you described my exact response in a different video that I commented on. Referring to the god awful twins. Like when I went back to read it again, almost EXACTLY what I said except I said "I want a skip button" instead of "stop talking" They truly are the most worthless, unintimidating antagonist of any new gen video game I've played. So weak it hurts to want the story to be over fast. As for OG Borderlands, dude I could play that game start to finish all over again and have a good time. That might be just me, but the soundtrack slapped and the mad max bland looking world made it so good. The guns felt more realistic, which honestly gave them more impact when using them. It was also more difficult than the following games by far
Also, can't farm Goliaths cause the loot can be trash, the enemies can kill him fast, you can't kill enemies cause Goliath need smash for levels, freezing enemies doesn't help cause they shoot just as fast till actually FROZEN, Goliath doesn't leave certain boundaries within his spawn, and even at GOD-liath they're just as susceptible to enemy damage
I havent played all of them but heres how it goes for me 5. Pre sequel: I could rank it higher but i never finished it so I can't properly rank it. 4. Borderlands 3: combat and gameplay are the best with very fun feeling weapons and sound design but the story is the worst ive played in any video game and the endgame content is very messy even compared to bl2. 3. Borderlands 1: Don't have much to really say about it but I had enough fun playing it and had fun with the knox dlc. 2. Original Tales: This is where the humor and story of the series peaked, yeah it is telltale gameplay but it's the only game in the series where I was fully invested in the story, the loaderbot plot twist on the last chapter actually got me and it was hype. 1. Borderlands 2: Good story and gameplay, the endgame content is what makes it though, thanks to joltz showing everyone how fun runs can be i've done so many runs just getting to level 80 and going after the fun raid bosses (except for dexiduous that one is hot garbage)
@RexyTheMagicalDinaur yeah anyone who reads this don't take this guys word at all. End game is literally a mess in 2 and has no build variety, the guy he mentions has even said this multiple times lol.
@resolvedwall the guy clearly never got end game in 2 if he thinks it's the best one. Nostalgia is one hell of a drug. Bl2 end game literally is extremely limited... build variety is none existent nor is weapon variety. 2 has a great story and side content, but its end game isn't great. He said lvl80, so it's clear he never went full end game... as it would be lvl80 op10. You people literally brush all of bl2s issues under a really large rug all the time. I have thousands of hours in it and love, it's end game is weak. And no skipping op levels doesn't magically solve its poor balancing issues, it just further proves the point of how bad end game is. Op levels with broken health values don't help either.
@lilpain1997 @lilpain1997 I did say level 80 for a reason because OP levels are way too broken and I don't like them. I do glaze it because I love the game to death but also keep in mind it is my opinion and I had mounds of fun with the game so I'm just stating what I think.
@RexyTheMagicalDinaur I already said that skipping op levels proves my point that's its end game is not all that good. The raid bosses are completely fucked and have broken values, skipping it further proves just how much people throw everything under a rug for it. Stop letting nostalgia get in the way. Bl3 has an awful story, but its end game is actually better than 2s as you can use a lot of weapons, and there's more than just one build per character. You can state what you think but it's just pure nostalgia.
I really enjoy the Presequel - the Felicity arc is really involved and emotional, as is the Claptastic Voyage. Some excellent writing here, definitely worth any fan's time.
BL2 was the first, and only, game I've ever played in my entire life that mindfu*ked me. In BL1, probably one of my favorite games of all time, Mordecai was my guy. Still my favorite character in the series. Using Bloodwing was so much fun, watching enemies explode into loot piles and blood. He genuinely felt like my own pet. I loved saying "get 'em blood" or "give 'em hell blood", everytime I used the ability. The moment Jack killed Bloodwing I turned my 360 off and didn't touch the game again for over a year. I was so pissed off, I legit cried (if you have an issue with this then fu*k you. Emotions are normal and healthy) and mourned Bloodwing. It made me hate Jack so much as a person that I myself, wanted to kill him. I've never felt that level of immersion or passion toward a game or character again or before that. BL2 absolutely masterfully made Jack to be the most unlikeable, loathesome, vile, piece of shit human villain of all time. BL2 was a great game overall. It had a massive spike in difficulty over BL1 which was really annoying in solo play, but very fun and engaging in coop. Things I didn't like: shooting enemies in the head didn't make their heads explode anymore. Similarly you couldn't shoot off limbs and there wasn't any showers of blood when killing enemies. They changed the car horn from the hysterical high pitched "meep" my brother and I tormented each other with to just a generic and bland horn that we don't even use. I didn't like that Dahl sniper rifles were always burst fire when zoomed. It made them nearly unusable. The second and third shots almost never hit critically and the sniper had such a limited ammo pool that the burst fire chewed through ammo way too fast. Torgue weapons were basically unusable with their abysmal bullet velocity and Maliwan pistols were useless with their tiny mag caps and using 2 rounds per shot. Jakobs SMGs and Combat Rifles were all single shot for some reason. So while BL2 did exponentially expand on the gun diversity of BL1, a lot of the gun variants were not fun to use because of terrible accuracy, weird functions that made no sense, massive ammo consumption, and slow bullet speed. I did enjoy the addition of Bandit Items. The names were great and they were usually really good functionally. This is where my hot take comes in, the overall story was pretty weak and I found it very difficult to stay invested in it. The story missions were fairly uninteresting and tedious. BL1 was very simple. Find the vault, open it, get rich. Exactly as advertised. I actually really liked the surprise ending of the vault being a multidimensional prison for monsters as a twist. I thought it was super funny and fitting for the overall feel of the game. BL1 was way more satisfying to finish than BL2, storywise. BL2 however blows every single other BL game away in environment and general gameplay. The gun fights are fun, the enemies are great, and the environments were pretty diverse. The exceptions being the caustic caverns(hated that environment completely), the spiderants(I don't know why they change the designs of these or why they made them so much more annoying to fight), and the crystal monsters(take way too long to kill, hit way too hard, and aren't interesting in any way).
I've just started with Borderlands 1. I like the gameplay-loop but it's in fact a little boring. But it's like Diablo; you play and play and loot and loot and forget time. Good to know it gets even better. Played Tales a long time before just because I love Telltales but didn't understand that much about the lore. Will play through the complete franchise now I know there's plenty to discover.
1. New tales 2. Tales from the bls 3.borderlands OG (2009) 4.TPS 5.wonderlands 6. bl2 7.bl3 Borderlands is all about gameplay. As much as a good story adds to the game. Realistically I couldn’t care less about the story and I play the games to shoot and blow stuff up.
While I do like how they switched things up on Tiny Tina’s Wonderlands and made vast improvements in the writing and world navigation/game design, the dlc, lack of impact from the guns and loot, and post game have kneecapped Wonderlands in a brutal way. The depth that most of the guns have in wonderlands is not as varied as 3 except that it’s more dnd inspired. While that’s cool and everything, the emphasis on this guns never contribute to the experimentation of your character. Which I feel like there isn’t enough to make your character badass or make the journey/quests/enemy engagement as rewarding/satisfying. This game needed better content and dlc to keep me engaged. I understand BL3 base game is flawed in a lot of ways. But the dlc (Bounty of Blood, Guns Love and Tentacles, The Raids, Cartel Event, the circle of slaughter, etc.) and true vault hunter mode brought it back to where I spent many hours collecting better wacky loot to make my character even more insane than base game. Nothing was holding it back. Unfortunately, the devs screwed up the post game content for wonderlands by adding timed dlc events. And the rewards were pretty bad. Making the gameplay loop of wonderlands feel nonexistent. Don’t get me wrong, base game wonderlands is fun. But just like Diablo, Monster Hunter world, and Destiny 2, you have to provide some good endgame activities and content to add more to Wonderlands longevity. Sadly, it was short lived and the devs messed it up big time. Which hurts the progression and fun of Wonderlands. Thats why you don’t hear the community talk much about this game except that is was good when it launched. Base game Wonderlands is better than Borderlands 3. But post game Wonderlands is pretty bad. Overall, meh.
I had a pretty similar reaction to B3 - like it made me question if the series was for me anymore. Tho I'm surprised you didn't mention that you meet Penn & Teller and Tommy Wiseau in side-missions. Tho that's also a criticism: the best stuff is buried is side quests - including the Handsome Jack stuff!
My list 1: borderlands 2 (do I need to explain?) 2: borderlands 3. Bit of a hot take hear but the gameplay is the best in the series (my opinion) 3: tales of the borderlands. Story was great, characters were charming and memorable 4: TTWL. I thought the fantasy setting was cool. I’m a fan of Tina’s character and I thought Andy did a good job at the voice acting. 5: borderlands (1) the world design was good. The guns felt powerful and it started it all 6: the pre sequel. I’m not a big fan of the game but I do see where people can like it. World design is decent, gameplay is basically the same as bl2 but low gravity and there is laser guns. 7: new tales. Haven’t played this one but from the clips I’ve seen it looks like bl3 but without the fun gameplay. What do you think? Should I never have an opinion again? Was I correct on some thing? What would you change?
FACTS. bl 1 had an apocalyptic planetary life with mystery and the potential in it. The writing was much better and the humor was MUCH LESS cringe. Sure the gameplay was mediocre and the loot was the same. THEY ALL FELT DIFFERENT as opposed to BL2 where everything looked different but felt the same. Pre sequel was arguably more fun than 2. It's all opinion tho and we all agree New Tales is dog water
Imo. If Wonderlands isn’t a Borderlands game, I surely can’t accept Tales as a Borderlands game. Borderlands is a looter shooter. Tales is a telltale game with a Borderlands theme. Surely it probably adds to the story, but I don’t play Borderlands for the story. I play for the looting and shooting which doesn’t exist in Tales. Wonderlands to me is like TT’s imagination just like the Dragon’s Keep dlc on BL2.
he don't read the quest descriptions. shit adds so much to the environmental storytelling. i don't need someone yapping in my ear to get X items, much more prominent in the later games i bet.
As someone who really likes BL2 the loot system is absolute trash. There is nothing rewarding or fun about killing the same boss 20-30 times for 1 legendary drop because everything has a 10% drop chance, drops aren't calculated independently, and some bosses drop other legendaries and or skins/heads which means some legendaries effectively have a 5% or 3% drop chance even on the highest difficulties. Also, when you finally do get your drop it can be 1 or 2 levels below your level meaning it's basically useless at high levels because of how enemies scale and you have to farm the boss all over again. That being said all of these loot problems can be fixed with mods but I thought it was worth mentioning that even though BL2 is the best fps Borderlands game it still has its faults. Also, the slag system is kinda shit.
Not to mention a lot of end game guns are quest rewards, farming the correct element and parts by setting your save file to read only is the most miserable thing in gaming history ever. Imagine the only viable way to get the best roll on a gun is by...not playing the game and do menu clicking simulator. And without dashboard/read only farm it's literally impossible to play through the game normally or resetting uvhm to get it normally. It already takes several days of reloading for hours to get the god roll, imagine doing a normal play through to get it. absolutely horrible game design
Wonderlands is the only one that punishes you for dying (sometimes), so it's the only one I go back to. I think if Borderlands 2 was just a little bit more punishing, it would be one of my all time favourite games.
I love the Borderlands games. Been playing them since #1 came out. But I still go back to 1 every once in a while, bc, while it has its flaws, I dig the slightly more serious tone. Especially at times, like when you go to Sledges Safehouse for the first time. It nails the eerie, dangerous vibe. B2 is def #1. Now if they would only add a hardcore mode.
I've only ever played and completed BL 1, 2 and Pre Sql and maybe it's because I haven't tried the latest ones, but Pre Sql had my favorite gameplay of the three as I found alot of freedom in movement with the low gravity mechanic. Sure, the characters were alright, the story was okay, and the environment was decent, but man I loved the movement
BL 1 will always be my favorite. I don’t know if it’s just nostalgia or mechanics but it’s just what made me enjoy the rest of the franchise and other open world games
Good discussion on each. I have essentially the same placements. I think the one thing Gearbox has been consistently really good on is their dlc’s. If I include those, I think I have a little more praise for BL3 as the full content package had some of my favorite areas, weapons, and story threads. I agree with your point on the size and level design of the open maps portions, but I do think BL3 and wonderlands kinda stand alone on that front. BL2’s story missions are pretty heavy enter generic square room -> go to hallway -> enter rectangular area etc whereas the verticality in the story mission areas for BL3 and on have been significant improvements
Wonderlands over 3 is crazy to me even tho I think WL gets way too much hate. The DLC actually ruined it for me, which in the series history, the DLCs are almsot always the best part. 1, 2, and 3 have amazing DLC's.
I just love Borderlands 1. Atmospheric, desolate feeling, good soundtrack, nostalgic, specially the revolvers. Bl2 is beautifully good, but i HATE what they did with the revolvers on this game
Nice ranking, First tales is my favorite but I also had a pretty good time with B2, specially with friends. Couldn't get into B1, but i might try tiny tinas, also, claptrap
bl2's good weapon spread is actually pretty equal. In fact, some of the most powerful are vanilla weapons, like the unkempt herald and the fastball. The sham and bee shield are also vanilla, and so is the lyudima.
A lot of people I know say Borderlands 3 is the most underrated of the series. I personally don’t think it’s underrated at all, I just think it’s overhated. It is a really damn good game but its story does a LOT wrong like killing off fan favorites for no reason and having the two most obnoxious villains I’ve ever seen in a video game. It has really good gameplay and the vault hunters were relatively interesting. I still think that The Pre-Sequel gets the honor as the most underrated
My list is controversial i think but its: 1. Bl3 2. Tales from the borderlands 3. Bl2 4. Bl1 5. Pre sequel 6. New tales Borderlands 3 is 1st because that was my first borderlands game that i completed and i didnt care about the story that much so it was great for me 😅
Looking back at the pre sequel... It's story is actually amazing, it fits perfectly inbetween 1&2 but bl3 has nothing going for it except for gameplay feeling much more smooth.
AS someone who started with BL2 and its definitely my favourite I think that The Claptastic voyage DLC within the Pre sequel is in my opinion tied for best sequel (alongside tiny Tina AODK) if not even #1 and reason enough to give BL PS a try + it gives us one of the most odd but unique weapons with the glitched weapons
TPS characters have better skills than bl2. (This is not saying that bl2's is bad, just that tps's feel really good). Like Timothy's, one of his capstone's applies an effect to his current weapon based on the manufacturer of the one you swapped off of. This means a elemental jakobs, or a dual element maliwan is possible and eat to get. Additionally, in another tree, he can get second winds off of his doppelgangers' death. This can trigger off of moving far enough away from them that they despawn. The thing that makes TPS this low is there's almost no dedicated drop locations for any legendary item in the entire game. This is bad because basically your build is now up to random chance, if you want to use legendaries.
Little story is one of the many stong suits for the first Borderlands. It's a game. Games are meant to be played. Stories are meant to be read (books) or watched (plays, movies, TV shows)
I think you diss too much on the presequel....the story was solid, the gameplay was solid, the characters were awesome to use at least claptrap and jack's doppelganger.....it was a very good game, all you mention are cons
@@nickhustey2844 absolutely. it’s honestly very hard to go back to BL2 having played BL3 the past 5 years (wow that’s weird to say it feels like it came out like last year)
Having bl1 worse than the presequal is wild to me. I've tried to get into the presequal a few times and its just lame. I think if you played the dlc for bl1 you'd rank them differently.
Maybe it’s because I’m knew to the borderlands franchise but I low-key thought borderlands 3 was the best, I get it the story is horrible but if you just ignore it the game is actually really good, it’s just a chaotic looter shooter which is what I think borderlands should be
I was shocked that Tales From The Borderlands was in your top two, and then I had to think about it. Story and character wise, none of the other games are beating it. I remember playing the demo for it and I immediately bought the season pass after the first 5 minutes 😂. It’s in my top two as well, but but I’d put Borderlands a three because I’m biased towards that game.
Good list man, I’d personally put Borderlands 1 higher, a lot of it is nostalgia, but Borderlands 1 just has a unique vibe to it, and the DLC’s were fantastic, I have very fond memories of my brother and I playing the zombie DLC. Crazy to think that was 15 years ago now, holy shit lol. Claptrap.
I can agree with this... New tales and BL1 are at last, together with Wonderlands in my opinion. I loved it as DLC for BL2, but i really didn't care for anything as a standalone... Borderlands Pre-sequel, BL3, Telltale BL and then BL2 would be next!
There are few reasons I didn't like BL3: Ava is number 1. The second would be characters you play as, don't feel like they belong to Borderlands. I wanted Tyreen to be playable character as at least she looked like a part of the series. 3rd was humor or lack of it. 4th Maya and how they did her dirty. 5 - no Scooter. Ellie is not replacing the good bro ;(. BL2 had everything. But, I did start to enjoy it even more after they added 2 new characters: Krieg Psycho and Gaige the Mechromancer. Seriously, the amount of lines they spit out and how they interact with the player is insane.
29:13 No, there's no new game plus, and the post game is not great. What's there is the chaos chamber or the dream mirrors (like there's a difference) and chaos mode, where there's 100 lvls of. Hell, you skip over several of the levels just cause. I seriously respect anyone who had the patience for it, but it's just not worth doing
It could be nostalgic but BL1 is 2nd right behind BL2 at 1st and 2nd place. It’s got a perfect amount of loot, side quest, characters. The worst part of BL1 is the world feels a little empty but unique guns actually felt unique and you can actually remember what quest/npc you got that gun from. Now a days it’s so many weapons that you’re just overwhelmed. And it’s actually a good challenge going through the game. I hate how games are getting so easy now. But it’s just my opinion
Claptrap!!!, Excellent video bro, I totally agree, I’m currently playing through BL2 again, I couldn’t count the total amount of play throughs I’ve done, it’s my all time favorite game, I agree the BL3 loot and game play is better but fails with the dull story and characters and horrible cringy dialogue.
We will never get another Borderlands 2. They truly don't know what made that game good.
With the movie flopping recently I have been disappointingly having this exact thought running through my head, sad. Anyway, well said
@@cattreegaming6220 Yeah I didn't think the Movie would diminish the brand, but it absolutely has for me 😐
It was so bad it makes me question Gearbox completely after already doubting them over how bad Borderlands 3 and Wonderlands are compared to Borderlands 2.
@@PandemoniumPirateRadiogearbox didn’t write the movie
it wasn't grog nozzle that's for sure
Not playing the borderlands 1 dlc is genuinely just doing yourself a disservice, the claptrap dlc alone was top notch.
I do onelife a lot well was doing it like few years ago now (I gotta start again) but man I still remember that whole dlc lol fun af also I died to the boss and remember being like what the fuck 🤣
the atlas dlc was amazing as well
There's too much driving.
Imma try it out! I’ve played through general Knox, I’m also using brick😂
Secret armory is even better imo
Borderlands 2 is what made me understand how strangely aggressive life could be at a young age. And borderlands pre sequel made me love the beauty and mechanics of borderlands.
Same though bl2 entirely is how i got into the game, i didnt play much of pre sequal though do u Recommend i come back to it?
Wounderlands over BL3 is a wild take. I completly disagree but it's just my opinion
My friends and I really didn't like Wonderlands at all. Even on Hard Mode the game was trivially easy. Most bosses took less than 20 seconds. The map design was also notably bad. It felt like fight room after fight room after fight room, with very little thought put into any downtime between them.
I agree but BL2 is better
At end game wonderlands is by far the hardest @thepowerfulpaet4937
Wonderlands had the same game play, but a better story
@@darionmcclinton351 no not at all. I mean it‘s not actually a Borderlands game and it felt completely different. Story was technically better but that’s it. DLCs suck very badly in the endgame was more repetitive than BL3 at the end of the day.
The day they can craft a villain on the level as Handsome Jack (in all aspects) will be the day they’ll be back on top. Handsome Jack is honestly just perfect
Agreed
I agree with you completely about wonderlands. The post game is eh but I never understood why it got so much hate from a lot of people.
it gets hate because the end game being terrible is a huge turnoff for real borderlands fans lmao
@@slimmortal213 that's pretty pedantic. I play and replay borderlands a ton, but I don't really engage with the post game at all. Id rather just start up a new character instead.
I really liked the base game, but the dlcs were ass, i hate the dungeons in that game, and i was dumb enough to preorder it for $100 since i thought they would be story dlcs.
@@Smuglicense9359 Im in the same boat. I haven't even touched the dlc's after I found out what they were. Maybe they're alright but I really don't know why focus wasn't put on making them campaigns.
@@salvatoredali4384 your a minority. End game has literally always been what keeps people coming back, it's why 3 flopped at release ( other than story ) and people were constantly asking where's raid bosses? You may not enjoy it but people LOVE farming. Pre sequel failed for this exact reason as well
My guy plays every game I swear lol
That’s exactly what I was thinking
Good I like diversity
Pog
He doesn't, he watches some reviews of the games just to make these videos 😂
Glad your willing to say all the good things about borderlands 3, because there’s so much to like there. Just mute the audio and the game is good, my only problem really with it is that because you get legendaries so often you practically never use anything else and gray and green weapons are never even close to necessary, which makes the game way too easy
strider what the hell
Get yourself the dialogue skipper mod on Nexus mods! I got it for my game and gosh it's a lifesaver ❤
Personally for me, Borderlands 3 is the second worst game in the series simply because I HATE the story of 3 so much.
Worst 2 for me are new tales of the borderlands and tiny Tina's wonderland
The story in Borderlands 3 is so ass ngl
Whole heartedly agree the story of 3 is ass however that being said letting the story completely ruin it for you is kinda weird for a Borderlands game. The improvements to gameplay from the gun uniqueness, level design, vh builds, etc easily put BL3 in top 3 catagory.
What that’s wild it’s my second favorite 🔥
I really don’t understand that logic, unless you’re playing for the story. At best the borderlands stories are like a 6-7/10.
I personally put bl3 in number 1. The story is ass of course but after 450h, I still have extreme fun with the gameplay and im planning to put another 100-200h into it.
Respect
That's fair enough. Though the video isn't just talking about gameplay, it's also the story and writing, which makes bl3 fall short for me.
@@courier-ec6zj I can definetly understand that. I just think that in some games, the gameplay makes up for the bad story
@@cyclo7912 it definitely can, I just don't think bl3 meets that bar
@@courier-ec6zj I think, that's where preferences come in. Your favourite games can be the games, you think are the best, even though they aren't the best. I just love bl3 and the gameplay personally makes up for the story. But I'm not everyone, so I can't speak for everyone.
I started BL3 about a week ago and have been having a blast with it. I've only ever played BL2, Pre-Sequel, and now BL3. Played the hell out of BL2 on Mac back in the day, and then played the hell out of it again on Nintendo Switch. BL3 on PS5 now, but yes, BL2 is the best.
I haven’t long started BL3 myself and loving it so far , I played the hell out of 1 &2 so gonna try the pre sequel after 3
@@Jamie-bg3zb I loved bl3, ave got more 72 and mayhem 11 and its fun but the xp grind sucks
@@peterbullock5997 yeah it’s great so far I’m at level 19 only haha but just on mission after killing katagawa ball
I've never played a borderlands game.Which one should I play first?
If you aren't intrested in the story start with BL3 it has the best gameplay
If you want split screen 4 coop play borderlands 2
If you enjoyed telltale games try tales from borderlands it's their best work
But I recommend buying the Borderlands collection Pandora's box . It has all the games combined for cheap price
Borderlands 2
either 1 or 2
2, local Multiplayer.
borderlands 2 for sure
I really didnt like borderlands the first time i played it. I played borderlands 1 a long time ago, split screen with someone, and just could not get into it
About a week ago though, my husband and i decided to try borderlands 2 together -- i am in LOVE with this series, 1 through 3, obsessed. We beat borderlands 2, are in the middle of the pre sequal, and when 3 wants to work (lag) its so satifying, and i love the characters!
Personally my ranking is: (from best to worst)
Borderlands 2
Borderlands 3
Pre sequel
Borderlands 1
I personally put Borderlands 1 right behind Borderlands 2.
How come, i still like borderlands 1 but it feels very bland compared to even pre sequel
Well i can see how it is bland after later games since it doesn't have as many skills but im not a fan of BL3 because of cringe it is. I don't really like the pre sequel because i didn't like the setting and characters as much. I also loved that in BL1 the enemies could carry really cool random weapons that they drop when killed.
I never played the Tiny Tina game and it does look pretty good so I need to give it a shot.
@@m3anmug Yeah Tiny Tinas Wonderlands i great, definitely worth a try
@meanmug5258 sounds like you don't really get to end the game, so I would say Tina's is great. End game is awful however
1000000 percent agree
It’s crazy how you put the original so low without playing the DLC. The DLC alone make the first one so good just like 2. I personally think borderlands 1 is better than 3 almost because of the DLC alone. Good list in all other regards though. CLAPTRAP!
borderlands 1 under wonderlands and bl3 is beyond insane throws the whole ranking out the window
It objectively makes a lot of sense, considering both Wonderlands and Borderlands 3 have a lot more going for them than the first game, despite them not being the best sequels
@@Krixzenz that wouldnt change the fact that they are still terrible games its quality over quantity at least in my opinion
He is ranking everything not just the story borderlands 3 only has a horrible story
He isn't ranking the games based on story.
@@chrisisaacs601only problem with bl3 was the story😭😭😭😭😭 nah we must have played different games.
I loved new tales of the borderlands, ik thats weird and a unique opinion but i honestly really enjoyed it
Tiny tina splitscreen is broken because it doesn't tell you what the guns do, idk how they messed up the ui so bad when it's fine in bl3
bl1 at 6 is crazy work
Is it really though? Even when it came out, the first 6 or so hours were rough. And once it does get going, it's still not as fun as the others. The writing that's there isn't annoying like Borderlands 3 but that's about it.
It was the first one so people have an attachment to it but if you were to just ask a new player to play them, #6 probably isn't an unfair ranking.
@@idakevif you ask a new player of any genre they’d say the new ones are better that’s a stupid point my man. As someone who’s played these since bl 1 countless times it’s 10x better than the most recent games and much more enjoyable to go and replay
Since I platinumed 3 and wonderlands I haven’t bothered going back because they just ruin what borderlands should be
@@liamsherratt3618 Not true. Borderlands 2 came out 12 years ago and is still considered the best by newcomers. New games are not automatically considered better. *Particularly for this franchise, you've made a very weak point.*
New games actually have to do more things better to be considered better. B1's problem isn't just that it's old, it's that it was the minimum viable product whereas B2 was where everything truly came together and was fully realised. So over a decade later it's still holding the line.
Poor pacing in the first half was a huge problem with Borderlands 1 in 2009.
the first six hours is like the best part most people have an issue with the second half of the game which is slow and a little tedious but still better than tps 3 and wonderlands no question
@@idakev we’re not talking about 2 here. I fully agree 2 is by far the best. My point is most new olayers who come into games now will think the new ones are better just as we’ve seen with assassins creed and call of duty. I’ve seen far too many people shit on the games that carried the franchise.
1 is still much better than the newer ones, never said it was better than borderlands 2. Plus the first half of 2 is definitely not poorly paced. Played it a few weeks back and I’m not sure where you think that’s poorly paced. Also it’s DLCs are far better than anything 3 or wonderlands came out with
New Tales from the Borderlands is written like how the “alt right” perceives what “the left” think is peak fiction- but it isn’t being ironic even in the slightest…
except leftists think exactly like that and love it lmfao leftist fan fiction on what the right wants always looks like a paradise compared to what they want or even what exists now.
Borderlands 1 is my most favorite in the series. Your complaints are actually my praises. Love the free roaming, work at your own pace adventure. Feels like a treasure hunt in the wild west. My go to cozy game.
The teaser trailer they had for Borderlands 3 was so amazing. It looked like they were going to make a more serious game and story.
And all the characters looked badass and gritty in that trailer.
Then the actual Game drops, and EVERYONE is obnoxious, empty, ugly, screaming, not funny, forced to either be heroes or to be just ridiculous villains with annoying voices, like there's zero in between, there's ZERO interesting nuanced characters or anything, they're all just annoying, self righteous pricks ALL of them.
Really wish they had matured the series instead and actually let the villains be serious for Borderlands 3.
You can still have plenty of jokes, humor, slapstick etc. But they really could have just let the villains BE badass and not a total JOKE as well 🤦🏻♂
Claptrap
I personally disagree with you on Pre-sequel, because it's my favourite BL game (after Tales).
Sure it didn't reinvent the series or anything like that, but all the new things introduced I strongly enjoyed.
Low gravity - for me it's fun to jump all around
Oz kits/Jet pack - while I think Relics are more fun, because of all the diversity, I think OZ's were more interesting in concept(like having better damege, accuracy, speed depending on oxygen, so if there were slightly more types of them, I would enjoy them more)
And slammig, double jumping, hovering is fun. It made the movement more enjoyable.
Grinder - being able to craft weapons and other items, was a great addition. Would love if the improved upon it in BL3
Cryo - like i really hope everyone agrees it's more fun then slag
And Glitch weapon rarity is the most interesting rarity in series. It's sad that also didn't made it into BL3
And then there are the Vault hunters, which are personally my favourites in series.
So if it wasn't for the almost non existing endgame, it would be basically the perfect Borderlands game for me.
There's more I would say about this game, but it would be harder for me to stop.
But like I respect your opinions and i understand not everyone likes low gravity.
Yeah man, borderlands is a series that means so much to me, is what really got me into single player FPS games and i have played most of them multiple times ever since (except the tale games) So thats exactly how i would rank em.
1. Borderlands 2 (Best story)
2. Borderlands 3 (Best gameplay)
3. Wonderlands (Best graphics)
4. Borderlands (OG)
5. The Presequel (Still great but not as much)
Thanks!
thanks man, you were the one that requested it ages ago! lol
@@TotallyTubularJonathan Yeah I did ! Thank you so much man, just for that I will try and find my physical credit card to do a Patreon subscription.
B1 and b2 are connected that’s how 25:07 handsome jack become the villain she (angel) is handsome jack daughter she got the first vault hunter to open the vault so jack could use that power but she never wanted that so in b2 she sacrificed herself to save them but jack still opens the vault then that’s how they find out there more out there just like this bc the second pair of vault hunters were guided by the first vault hunters an jack face is messed up cause by litith powers I believe in b1
Borderlands and Borderlands 2 are neck and neck for me. I say Borderlands 2 was a little better but the DLC in Borderlands was better than in BL2
Just saw the movie over the weekend with my son that was born on 2012 game of the year. We are enjoying playing the whole Pandora Box series. CLAPTRAP
Let's be honest here bro BL1 is my favorite in the franchise and if it wasn't successful there wouldn't be a Borderlands franchise to begin with because if it had failed and sold little to no copies they'll be no precious BL2 and beyond, also the Dlc's of BL1 made the overall full game experience way better in my opinion but it's your video and I respect your opinion.
I would like to give some appreciation to Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel. I have more than 1k hours in bl2, 100 in bl1 and almost 300 in the pre sequel. I can confirm it has some of the weakest side quests, but there are some key points that make the game better than what most people think:
The characters feel so unique to me. Athena and Nisha are the characters that i played the least, but the touch on wilhelm changing his aspect as you progress on his modifications is amazing, claptrap is so bad yet sooooo funny to play with, and the dlc characters, aurelia is kinda meh (though is a freezing beast and to me, freezing is the most op thing in this game), and Timothy (jack's double) it's one of the most unique and op characters in all the franchise. Also, would like to mention Aurelia has a really unique skill tree focused on coop, but i only played this game alone.
NPC's have special dialogues depending on the character, which leads to more jokes and it is a really nice touch.
The DLC, omg, the claptastic's voyage might be the best DLC in the whole franchise with dragon's keep DLC. The concept and the gameplay is a nostalgia slap to the fans.
I feel this game has the problem of being released after Bordelands 2, since most people, as Jonathan said, think it's a worse version of bl2 and leave the game. Everyone should give some love to this game since the more you play it the better it feels.
About the end of last year, I played it and thought it was on level with bl2. I dont know why people hated it so much. If only they didn't, we could have had even more dlcs, but 2K Australia actually shut down after they stopped touching the game, so I sadly think they can't really come back to it like bl2 with the fight for sanctuary dlc, because the studio is gone so I don't think they can actually do anything with the game. (I might be wrong, though.)
@@xavipacheco802 Pre sequel still sucks. Majority of fans play to farm gear and pre sequel farming is pure liquid ass/none existent. It's a huge reason it failed.
@@OWO_EDITS because it's not a good bl game. It has no real end game except the raid boss, farming was none existent till they added some loot pools but it wasn't enough. It was a rush job and clearly so. If you make farming and end game completely boring you loose the majority of fans. Wonderlands people say is a good game but they hated end game.
@lilpain1997 I guess it depends on what gear you wish to farm for. I really like the sniper that Swagman drops as well as the ease of bonus package from the Torks. You can usually get those items quite quickly from one to another. I would have liked to have seen more legendaries added to the loot pool from Iwajira however, as the Thingy sucks and is only vending fodder. I can see why people say it sucks but I found the balancing to be better in TPS, and I also quite liked Holodome, especially the badass round.
Borderlands 1 has the best loot system in the franchise IMO putting it so low on the list is just criminal
I love bl1 but how is the loot system the best ? Like at all?
As a Borderlands lover...for over a decade...and a constant Borderlands YT streamer...I could not, like literally, could not find EVEN ONE, thing that I did not agree with in this video...In my opinion, BL2 is THE best game, and my single most favorite game of ALL TIME!!! This video and your commentary are 100% Gold....I enjoyed it very much...
I'm not trying to come at you, but not playing the bl1 dlc and making this video just discredits you imho. That combined with ranking the pre-sequel over bl1 is not exactly something that I think I could be persuaded to agree with, nostalgia aside. On another note, bl1 had an insane amount of hype. Anyone who liked games was hyped about the first game ever to be advertised as having over one million different pew-pews in it. Later we realized it was just an FPS Diablo-style loot system, but in a good way. I remember getting the Gameinformer with the original (realistic) borderlands artwork on the cover with the buggy and the bandits on it so you knew the multi-page article in the middle was going to be about Borderlands. They also had Cage the Elephant's "Ain't no Rest for the Wicked" for their gameplay trailer which drew a lot of attention at the time. I also disagree with some other rankings but I get that's mostly subjective unless we have some kind of ranking standard to go by.
Good ranking man i am new to borderlands and have started with the pre sequel in 2024 ..should probably have started with 2 but didnt know ..personally i have loved tps and im looking forward to 2 & 3 ..i think in total i paid £12 for the handsome collection (pre sequel & 2 and a lot of their dlc) and the borderlands 3 discs all on ps4. Pretty amazing deal for the amount of content really lol. TPS looks and runs really nice on my ps4 too though it does make the console LOUD at times when there are loads of explosions and lasers and digital worlds on screen.
Dude, almost word for word you described my exact response in a different video that I commented on. Referring to the god awful twins. Like when I went back to read it again, almost EXACTLY what I said except I said "I want a skip button" instead of "stop talking"
They truly are the most worthless, unintimidating antagonist of any new gen video game I've played. So weak it hurts to want the story to be over fast.
As for OG Borderlands, dude I could play that game start to finish all over again and have a good time. That might be just me, but the soundtrack slapped and the mad max bland looking world made it so good. The guns felt more realistic, which honestly gave them more impact when using them. It was also more difficult than the following games by far
Also, can't farm Goliaths cause the loot can be trash, the enemies can kill him fast, you can't kill enemies cause Goliath need smash for levels, freezing enemies doesn't help cause they shoot just as fast till actually FROZEN, Goliath doesn't leave certain boundaries within his spawn, and even at GOD-liath they're just as susceptible to enemy damage
I havent played all of them but heres how it goes for me
5. Pre sequel: I could rank it higher but i never finished it so I can't properly rank it.
4. Borderlands 3: combat and gameplay are the best with very fun feeling weapons and sound design but the story is the worst ive played in any video game and the endgame content is very messy even compared to bl2.
3. Borderlands 1: Don't have much to really say about it but I had enough fun playing it and had fun with the knox dlc.
2. Original Tales: This is where the humor and story of the series peaked, yeah it is telltale gameplay but it's the only game in the series where I was fully invested in the story, the loaderbot plot twist on the last chapter actually got me and it was hype.
1. Borderlands 2: Good story and gameplay, the endgame content is what makes it though, thanks to joltz showing everyone how fun runs can be i've done so many runs just getting to level 80 and going after the fun raid bosses (except for dexiduous that one is hot garbage)
@RexyTheMagicalDinaur yeah anyone who reads this don't take this guys word at all. End game is literally a mess in 2 and has no build variety, the guy he mentions has even said this multiple times lol.
@@lilpain1997not sure what you’re on abt hes speaking the truth no way you think anything is better than 2
@resolvedwall the guy clearly never got end game in 2 if he thinks it's the best one. Nostalgia is one hell of a drug. Bl2 end game literally is extremely limited... build variety is none existent nor is weapon variety. 2 has a great story and side content, but its end game isn't great. He said lvl80, so it's clear he never went full end game... as it would be lvl80 op10. You people literally brush all of bl2s issues under a really large rug all the time. I have thousands of hours in it and love, it's end game is weak. And no skipping op levels doesn't magically solve its poor balancing issues, it just further proves the point of how bad end game is. Op levels with broken health values don't help either.
@lilpain1997 @lilpain1997 I did say level 80 for a reason because OP levels are way too broken and I don't like them. I do glaze it because I love the game to death but also keep in mind it is my opinion and I had mounds of fun with the game so I'm just stating what I think.
@RexyTheMagicalDinaur I already said that skipping op levels proves my point that's its end game is not all that good. The raid bosses are completely fucked and have broken values, skipping it further proves just how much people throw everything under a rug for it. Stop letting nostalgia get in the way. Bl3 has an awful story, but its end game is actually better than 2s as you can use a lot of weapons, and there's more than just one build per character. You can state what you think but it's just pure nostalgia.
I really enjoy the Presequel - the Felicity arc is really involved and emotional, as is the Claptastic Voyage. Some excellent writing here, definitely worth any fan's time.
BL2 was the first, and only, game I've ever played in my entire life that mindfu*ked me. In BL1, probably one of my favorite games of all time, Mordecai was my guy. Still my favorite character in the series. Using Bloodwing was so much fun, watching enemies explode into loot piles and blood. He genuinely felt like my own pet. I loved saying "get 'em blood" or "give 'em hell blood", everytime I used the ability. The moment Jack killed Bloodwing I turned my 360 off and didn't touch the game again for over a year. I was so pissed off, I legit cried (if you have an issue with this then fu*k you. Emotions are normal and healthy) and mourned Bloodwing. It made me hate Jack so much as a person that I myself, wanted to kill him. I've never felt that level of immersion or passion toward a game or character again or before that. BL2 absolutely masterfully made Jack to be the most unlikeable, loathesome, vile, piece of shit human villain of all time. BL2 was a great game overall. It had a massive spike in difficulty over BL1 which was really annoying in solo play, but very fun and engaging in coop. Things I didn't like: shooting enemies in the head didn't make their heads explode anymore. Similarly you couldn't shoot off limbs and there wasn't any showers of blood when killing enemies. They changed the car horn from the hysterical high pitched "meep" my brother and I tormented each other with to just a generic and bland horn that we don't even use. I didn't like that Dahl sniper rifles were always burst fire when zoomed. It made them nearly unusable. The second and third shots almost never hit critically and the sniper had such a limited ammo pool that the burst fire chewed through ammo way too fast. Torgue weapons were basically unusable with their abysmal bullet velocity and Maliwan pistols were useless with their tiny mag caps and using 2 rounds per shot. Jakobs SMGs and Combat Rifles were all single shot for some reason. So while BL2 did exponentially expand on the gun diversity of BL1, a lot of the gun variants were not fun to use because of terrible accuracy, weird functions that made no sense, massive ammo consumption, and slow bullet speed. I did enjoy the addition of Bandit Items. The names were great and they were usually really good functionally. This is where my hot take comes in, the overall story was pretty weak and I found it very difficult to stay invested in it. The story missions were fairly uninteresting and tedious. BL1 was very simple. Find the vault, open it, get rich. Exactly as advertised. I actually really liked the surprise ending of the vault being a multidimensional prison for monsters as a twist. I thought it was super funny and fitting for the overall feel of the game. BL1 was way more satisfying to finish than BL2, storywise. BL2 however blows every single other BL game away in environment and general gameplay. The gun fights are fun, the enemies are great, and the environments were pretty diverse. The exceptions being the caustic caverns(hated that environment completely), the spiderants(I don't know why they change the designs of these or why they made them so much more annoying to fight), and the crystal monsters(take way too long to kill, hit way too hard, and aren't interesting in any way).
I've just started with Borderlands 1. I like the gameplay-loop but it's in fact a little boring. But it's like Diablo; you play and play and loot and loot and forget time. Good to know it gets even better. Played Tales a long time before just because I love Telltales but didn't understand that much about the lore. Will play through the complete franchise now I know there's plenty to discover.
1. New tales
2. Tales from the bls
3.borderlands OG (2009)
4.TPS
5.wonderlands
6. bl2
7.bl3
Borderlands is all about gameplay. As much as a good story adds to the game. Realistically I couldn’t care less about the story and I play the games to shoot and blow stuff up.
I had no idea there was a mod to mute the characters on 3 so now ill be using exactly that and play through it again
While I do like how they switched things up on Tiny Tina’s Wonderlands and made vast improvements in the writing and world navigation/game design, the dlc, lack of impact from the guns and loot, and post game have kneecapped Wonderlands in a brutal way. The depth that most of the guns have in wonderlands is not as varied as 3 except that it’s more dnd inspired. While that’s cool and everything, the emphasis on this guns never contribute to the experimentation of your character. Which I feel like there isn’t enough to make your character badass or make the journey/quests/enemy engagement as rewarding/satisfying. This game needed better content and dlc to keep me engaged. I understand BL3 base game is flawed in a lot of ways. But the dlc (Bounty of Blood, Guns Love and Tentacles, The Raids, Cartel Event, the circle of slaughter, etc.) and true vault hunter mode brought it back to where I spent many hours collecting better wacky loot to make my character even more insane than base game. Nothing was holding it back. Unfortunately, the devs screwed up the post game content for wonderlands by adding timed dlc events. And the rewards were pretty bad. Making the gameplay loop of wonderlands feel nonexistent. Don’t get me wrong, base game wonderlands is fun. But just like Diablo, Monster Hunter world, and Destiny 2, you have to provide some good endgame activities and content to add more to Wonderlands longevity. Sadly, it was short lived and the devs messed it up big time. Which hurts the progression and fun of Wonderlands. Thats why you don’t hear the community talk much about this game except that is was good when it launched.
Base game Wonderlands is better than Borderlands 3. But post game Wonderlands is pretty bad. Overall, meh.
I had a pretty similar reaction to B3 - like it made me question if the series was for me anymore. Tho I'm surprised you didn't mention that you meet Penn & Teller and Tommy Wiseau in side-missions. Tho that's also a criticism: the best stuff is buried is side quests - including the Handsome Jack stuff!
My list
1: borderlands 2 (do I need to explain?)
2: borderlands 3. Bit of a hot take hear but the gameplay is the best in the series (my opinion)
3: tales of the borderlands. Story was great, characters were charming and memorable
4: TTWL. I thought the fantasy setting was cool. I’m a fan of Tina’s character and I thought Andy did a good job at the voice acting.
5: borderlands (1) the world design was good. The guns felt powerful and it started it all
6: the pre sequel. I’m not a big fan of the game but I do see where people can like it. World design is decent, gameplay is basically the same as bl2 but low gravity and there is laser guns.
7: new tales. Haven’t played this one but from the clips I’ve seen it looks like bl3 but without the fun gameplay.
What do you think? Should I never have an opinion again? Was I correct on some thing? What would you change?
The playable jack in TpS is the most op character
How is OG borderlands worse than the presequel and even no. 3 arguably
FACTS. bl 1 had an apocalyptic planetary life with mystery and the potential in it. The writing was much better and the humor was MUCH LESS cringe. Sure the gameplay was mediocre and the loot was the same. THEY ALL FELT DIFFERENT as opposed to BL2 where everything looked different but felt the same. Pre sequel was arguably more fun than 2.
It's all opinion tho and we all agree New Tales is dog water
@@carlosmena6919Ye i agree tps is more fun than 2. Very underrated game
I'm glad you did this 👍
Claptrap
Your content is fire bro. I Wish you success across all aspects life, love your videos.
I hope the same for him
Imo. If Wonderlands isn’t a Borderlands game, I surely can’t accept Tales as a Borderlands game. Borderlands is a looter shooter. Tales is a telltale game with a Borderlands theme. Surely it probably adds to the story, but I don’t play Borderlands for the story. I play for the looting and shooting which doesn’t exist in Tales. Wonderlands to me is like TT’s imagination just like the Dragon’s Keep dlc on BL2.
this has been totally tubular!
Just saying, The Bee Shield with the double penetrating Herold as the gunzerker. God dam i loved it😍
"bl1 has bad side quests" what? what are you talking about.. this entire video feels like its made by someone who has never played borderlands EVER
Tier lists and rankings are opinionated. I wouldn't think too much over it. It's their list not yours.
@@TheUltraKekster i agree but theres such a thing as a bad opinion and this guy has tons of them
he don't read the quest descriptions. shit adds so much to the environmental storytelling. i don't need someone yapping in my ear to get X items, much more prominent in the later games i bet.
As someone who really likes BL2 the loot system is absolute trash. There is nothing rewarding or fun about killing the same boss 20-30 times for 1 legendary drop because everything has a 10% drop chance, drops aren't calculated independently, and some bosses drop other legendaries and or skins/heads which means some legendaries effectively have a 5% or 3% drop chance even on the highest difficulties. Also, when you finally do get your drop it can be 1 or 2 levels below your level meaning it's basically useless at high levels because of how enemies scale and you have to farm the boss all over again. That being said all of these loot problems can be fixed with mods but I thought it was worth mentioning that even though BL2 is the best fps Borderlands game it still has its faults. Also, the slag system is kinda shit.
Not to mention a lot of end game guns are quest rewards, farming the correct element and parts by setting your save file to read only is the most miserable thing in gaming history ever. Imagine the only viable way to get the best roll on a gun is by...not playing the game and do menu clicking simulator. And without dashboard/read only farm it's literally impossible to play through the game normally or resetting uvhm to get it normally. It already takes several days of reloading for hours to get the god roll, imagine doing a normal play through to get it. absolutely horrible game design
Dont disrespect my boy BL1 like that. The goty version is awesome eith proper atmosphere and gore
Wonderlands is the only one that punishes you for dying (sometimes), so it's the only one I go back to. I think if Borderlands 2 was just a little bit more punishing, it would be one of my all time favourite games.
Play an Anarchy Gaige and you’ll be punished for dying, trust me 😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
@@kareemmasri3934 Lol
Unpopular opinion: Borderlands 1 is better than Presequal and Borderlands 3.
Crack
@Noctislolig, it's way better than 3, and the only game in the series when you're an actual vault hunter and not some wanna be hero
Not an unpopular opinion
Borderlands 3 is goated
😂 no way you think that
@@TheAngelOfTheBottomlessPit well borderlands 2 and then 3😉
I love the Borderlands games. Been playing them since #1 came out. But I still go back to 1 every once in a while, bc, while it has its flaws, I dig the slightly more serious tone. Especially at times, like when you go to Sledges Safehouse for the first time. It nails the eerie, dangerous vibe.
B2 is def #1.
Now if they would only add a hardcore mode.
Solid review, agreed with everything✅
I've only ever played and completed BL 1, 2 and Pre Sql and maybe it's because I haven't tried the latest ones, but Pre Sql had my favorite gameplay of the three as I found alot of freedom in movement with the low gravity mechanic. Sure, the characters were alright, the story was okay, and the environment was decent, but man I loved the movement
BL 1 will always be my favorite.
I don’t know if it’s just nostalgia or mechanics but it’s just what made me enjoy the rest of the franchise and other open world games
Claptrap
Good discussion on each. I have essentially the same placements. I think the one thing Gearbox has been consistently really good on is their dlc’s. If I include those, I think I have a little more praise for BL3 as the full content package had some of my favorite areas, weapons, and story threads. I agree with your point on the size and level design of the open maps portions, but I do think BL3 and wonderlands kinda stand alone on that front. BL2’s story missions are pretty heavy enter generic square room -> go to hallway -> enter rectangular area etc whereas the verticality in the story mission areas for BL3 and on have been significant improvements
Having wonderlands over pre-sequel and borderlands 3 is a wild take
Wonderlands over 3 is crazy to me even tho I think WL gets way too much hate. The DLC actually ruined it for me, which in the series history, the DLCs are almsot always the best part. 1, 2, and 3 have amazing DLC's.
Bro was on crack making the original game #6.
What would be the best platform in console wise with loading screens graphics etc for the complete borderlands series i might give this series a shot
I remember when BL3 came out, you couldn't skip cutscenes nor adjust dialogue volume, actual torture...
I will forever love Borderlands 2 a game that I grew up with and as I grew up I realized how good of a time I was having CLAPTRAP
I just love Borderlands 1. Atmospheric, desolate feeling, good soundtrack, nostalgic, specially the revolvers.
Bl2 is beautifully good, but i HATE what they did with the revolvers on this game
Nice ranking, First tales is my favorite but I also had a pretty good time with B2, specially with friends.
Couldn't get into B1, but i might try tiny tinas, also, claptrap
bl2's good weapon spread is actually pretty equal. In fact, some of the most powerful are vanilla weapons, like the unkempt herald and the fastball. The sham and bee shield are also vanilla, and so is the lyudima.
A lot of people I know say Borderlands 3 is the most underrated of the series. I personally don’t think it’s underrated at all, I just think it’s overhated. It is a really damn good game but its story does a LOT wrong like killing off fan favorites for no reason and having the two most obnoxious villains I’ve ever seen in a video game. It has really good gameplay and the vault hunters were relatively interesting. I still think that The Pre-Sequel gets the honor as the most underrated
Every game should have a badass rank equivalent.
Should i replay borderlands 2 or bus borderlands 3?
borderlands 3 is on PS+ if ur on playstation
Bl3 gameplay is the best but story kinda sucks
My list is controversial i think but its: 1. Bl3
2. Tales from the borderlands
3. Bl2
4. Bl1
5. Pre sequel
6. New tales
Borderlands 3 is 1st because that was my first borderlands game that i completed and i didnt care about the story that much so it was great for me 😅
Looking back at the pre sequel... It's story is actually amazing, it fits perfectly inbetween 1&2 but bl3 has nothing going for it except for gameplay feeling much more smooth.
AS someone who started with BL2 and its definitely my favourite I think that The Claptastic voyage DLC within the Pre sequel is in my opinion tied for best sequel (alongside tiny Tina AODK) if not even #1 and reason enough to give BL PS a try + it gives us one of the most odd but unique weapons with the glitched weapons
Claptastic Voyage is PEAK
They need to make a bl2 remastered but with all of the most updated loot from newer games with more in depth skill trees like the newer games
Even though I love borderlands 2 and think it's still the best game in the series I will say borderlands 3 Has the best gameplay in the entire series
TPS characters have better skills than bl2. (This is not saying that bl2's is bad, just that tps's feel really good). Like Timothy's, one of his capstone's applies an effect to his current weapon based on the manufacturer of the one you swapped off of. This means a elemental jakobs, or a dual element maliwan is possible and eat to get.
Additionally, in another tree, he can get second winds off of his doppelgangers' death. This can trigger off of moving far enough away from them that they despawn.
The thing that makes TPS this low is there's almost no dedicated drop locations for any legendary item in the entire game.
This is bad because basically your build is now up to random chance, if you want to use legendaries.
Little story is one of the many stong suits for the first Borderlands. It's a game. Games are meant to be played. Stories are meant to be read (books) or watched (plays, movies, TV shows)
I think you diss too much on the presequel....the story was solid, the gameplay was solid, the characters were awesome to use at least claptrap and jack's doppelganger.....it was a very good game, all you mention are cons
Having beaten BL2 on 4 different occasions i agree
Pre sequel will always be my favorite. Gameplay is fun, story is interesting, skill trees are really cool, and the dlc is easily top 3
Bro no the claptrap dlc is probably the best borderlands dlc
3 has my favorite gameplay but 2 has the best story and I just have way more hours on it
Thank you. People just straight dunk on bl3. The story deserves it. But the gameplay is great and the post game is a ton of fun
@@nickhustey2844 absolutely. it’s honestly very hard to go back to BL2 having played BL3 the past 5 years (wow that’s weird to say it feels like it came out like last year)
@@nickhustey2844bl3 is better, more fun. Bl2 drops are so low and enemies chew up ur health, not fun at all
Having bl1 worse than the presequal is wild to me. I've tried to get into the presequal a few times and its just lame. I think if you played the dlc for bl1 you'd rank them differently.
Maybe it’s because I’m knew to the borderlands franchise but I low-key thought borderlands 3 was the best, I get it the story is horrible but if you just ignore it the game is actually really good, it’s just a chaotic looter shooter which is what I think borderlands should be
I was shocked that Tales From The Borderlands was in your top two, and then I had to think about it. Story and character wise, none of the other games are beating it. I remember playing the demo for it and I immediately bought the season pass after the first 5 minutes 😂. It’s in my top two as well, but but I’d put Borderlands a three because I’m biased towards that game.
Good list man, I’d personally put Borderlands 1 higher, a lot of it is nostalgia, but Borderlands 1 just has a unique vibe to it, and the DLC’s were fantastic, I have very fond memories of my brother and I playing the zombie DLC. Crazy to think that was 15 years ago now, holy shit lol. Claptrap.
I can agree with this...
New tales and BL1 are at last, together with Wonderlands in my opinion. I loved it as DLC for BL2, but i really didn't care for anything as a standalone...
Borderlands Pre-sequel, BL3, Telltale BL and then BL2 would be next!
on god your aim is so terrible it kept me distracted throughout the whole entire video
Been waiting on this one
CL4TR4P
There are few reasons I didn't like BL3: Ava is number 1. The second would be characters you play as, don't feel like they belong to Borderlands. I wanted Tyreen to be playable character as at least she looked like a part of the series. 3rd was humor or lack of it. 4th Maya and how they did her dirty. 5 - no Scooter. Ellie is not replacing the good bro ;(.
BL2 had everything. But, I did start to enjoy it even more after they added 2 new characters: Krieg Psycho and Gaige the Mechromancer. Seriously, the amount of lines they spit out and how they interact with the player is insane.
I’m happy I got introduced to Borderlands with 3. The gameplay was fun, and I don’t care about the story.
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No, there's no new game plus, and the post game is not great. What's there is the chaos chamber or the dream mirrors (like there's a difference) and chaos mode, where there's 100 lvls of. Hell, you skip over several of the levels just cause. I seriously respect anyone who had the patience for it, but it's just not worth doing
It could be nostalgic but BL1 is 2nd right behind BL2 at 1st and 2nd place. It’s got a perfect amount of loot, side quest, characters. The worst part of BL1 is the world feels a little empty but unique guns actually felt unique and you can actually remember what quest/npc you got that gun from. Now a days it’s so many weapons that you’re just overwhelmed. And it’s actually a good challenge going through the game. I hate how games are getting so easy now. But it’s just my opinion
Claptrap!!!,
Excellent video bro, I totally agree, I’m currently playing through BL2 again, I couldn’t count the total amount of play throughs I’ve done, it’s my all time favorite game, I agree the BL3 loot and game play is better but fails with the dull story and characters and horrible cringy dialogue.
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why does everyone choke on BL2's wiener so much?