THANK YOU TO EVERYONE who showed up to the LIVESTREAM!! ALSO MASSIVE Apologies IF AT times it seemed like I was cutting off The Anime Trainer when he was trying to speak, we were recording on Discord & sometimes I couldnt hear his audio as clearly as the Livestream Chat could so I sometimes missed & Spoke over him cause I was misheard him, that wasnt my intent but Was a Fun time! TIME STAMPS Added 00:00 - Rules & Breakdown Of Matchups 4:39 - Saitama’s Fighting Ability 8:00 -Yusuke’s Fighting Ability 11:48 - Glitch Resolves 13:09 - Luffy’s Fighting Ability 18:30 - Kid Buu’s Fighting Ability 22:47 - Ippo’s Boxing Ability 28:14 - Naruto & Sasuke’s Martial Arts 35:55 - Chinmi’s Martial Arts 41:52- Goku & Vegeta’s Martial Arts 54:56 - Raian Kure’s Fighting PROWESS 1:02:50 - Baki Hanma’s Martial Art Ability 1:12:34 - Glitch Resolves 1:14:16 - Ohma Tokita’s Martial Art Ability 1:23:10 - Rock Lee’s Martial Arts 1:24:45 - All Fighters Ranked Lowest To Highest 1:25:54 - Kenichi & BONUS fighters Ranked 1:40:31 - for KENSHIRO FANS
@@vinnyfalzarano4911 things like hidden lotus I a realistic setting would be a grappling move. Like a sumo flip. So I would say they have grappling but limited amount of it.
Dammn You were so right on the Baki thing tho, that is such a setback for him and something he should work on But Hell I LOVED this stream! Outstanding work to you and Anime Training
They have around the same skill level. And Baki has shown zero ground game, if we go by the manga he knows very little. Also Ohms has still size advantage 10 lbs when fighting is a difference and Ohma has more range too.@@twosad
Yusuke Urameshi would be a Nate Diaz or a Jorge Masvidal type of fighter. Not the most polished martial artist but would have an insane amount of durability, stamina and stand up would be very good mixed with decent to having a lot of power in his punches and all of them are street fighters.
Jorge is actually very technical tho. He just loves to make every fight a dog fight, but his skill striking wise and even grappling wise is still top tier tho
I like how you broke it down into tiers. Love the shoutout to Kanoh at the end. But Im taking Raian in this one. If he puts forth effort, nobody is beating him
Absolutely facts. The only person who can rival serious raian (not beat him outright, just equalling him) when the circumstances are realistic is Ohma from Kengan Omega (I mean duh). Other than that there is NO ONE who I think will be able to beat those two if they get serious right off the bat in the fight.
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I like this form of analysis for power scaling because most the time when it comes to things like skill and versus battles to people will just say oh yeah this guy has the all the skill when in the actual series you don't see him using all of the skills so I like it when people just use purely but the character actually does as a form of power scaling. I'm not saying other versions of power scaling like using statements is invalid but I like this form better.
Completely 100% understand where you’re coming from there’s just too many variables in kengan I love their dynamics. all those things to consider I’ve been saying this the longest it you have to take everything into consideration that’s why I think it’s peak hype right now love the content bro!!
Trained with Jay Hieron before, i got whooped. At the time I been in muay thai and boxing for 5 years, and wrestling for 3, so I was already pretty well trained going into it, but I got whooped. Fighters, even those who aren't the best, are on another level, they do to much, its crazy. Though that was 6 years ago, and I never stopped training, I think he will still beat me.
Hey Jax have you read 'tough' by tetsuya saruwatari, it's like Baki but imo the fights are even better. I' m talking about 'tough' btw and not 'kouko Tekkenden tough'. 'Tough' is way better than the other one that I mentioned.
Yeah, as soon as I clicked on this video, I heard human abilities and thought Ippo won. He's one of the few who fights bigger fighters on the regular and if he can stick to kamogawa teaching and now try to prove anything, he wins it all. THE WIND GOD MAKUNOUCHI!
@@AlphaYT-tm2wp once you take away the superhuman stuff, everything about adrenaline control etc. that makes baki baki (including no demon back) he's really not that good. He is built only for his own universe.
@@Oskawano im comparing his experiences and accourse no power or demon back like or hid other powers baki has faught different style he has more expirience that any of this fighter he has travel and remember he started since he was a kid he fought many style compare to the other fighters..uk?
I would argue that with Wing Chun, that's only one part of his fighting style, there are fighters who use alot of the hand trap amd sticky hands stuff well in actual fighting i.e. Tony Ferguson and esspecially Roberto Duran. So i think it's unfair to use just Wing Chun and because of that to bring him down to "mid-tier"
@@jashardwallington as someone who recently started mma classes after a few years of wing chun, learn some basic boxing, kickboxingf, whatever before you learn wing chun. It should not be your base state it should be used as an additive (i think wing chun needs at least a decade of sparring, training and changes in it internally before it can become a sport or a main martial art)
It would be awesome if you made a Tough Like The Toons for one of the best comic book characters of all: Dick Grayson A.K.A. the first robin A.K.A. agent 37 A.K.A. *NIGHTWING*
To be fair with Baki though, he's never really had to use defensive/offensive grappling before since he can just one tap people. He's shown to be able to do stuff as y'all stated, and he probably does have the skills, but he's just never had to utilize them in an extensive way before.
@@badasslama3228 Well yeah, but as he is as of rn in the story he could probably one tap most of the supporting cast that's A-Tier and below which is what I mean. Additionally he likes getting into slug fests so idk
i feel like garou has a couple things you guys slept on just because water stream rock smashing fist is fictional. -for one thing, theres his insane learning/ adaptation ability. He learns as he fights so the longer he lasts, the less effective your techniques will be, and the more techniques he will have to use against you. -then theres his ability to take punishment. yes, it would be significantly nerfed due to the fact that hed be at human level, but the ability to eat damage is really useful in a fight, and its something you'd have to take into consideration when examining him as a fighter, just like you would with luffy's flexibility for example. -water stream rock smashing fist is fictional, but there are certain concepts in it that you can extrapolate from, such as the fact that it'd probably make him a strong counter puncher.
Tbh…. I don’t think tanking damage is a superhuman feat. Ppl take hard blows and bounce back all the time. It’s like imagine giving a hard guy punch to Bruce lee when he flexed up. The tension of his muscles will be reinforced. I would feel like Garou can take down half of this list.
Alright that guy next to naruto sounded awesome. I’m with jax I need to read it and why isn’t the most realistic person in anime,Kenichi, ain’t here either. Him and rock lee would be great here
Going with Yugi Itadori, even before he got curse energy he had insane durability and power, plus he already had training in martial arts leading the only thing to teach him in the series being curse energy.
i like to think a freshly evolved charizard is 5'9' but it can still mature and grow. it evolves at 36, so theoretically theres alot more left in its life span
*For a Female version of this list:* Chun Li, Mai Shiranui, Videl, Morgiana, Hinata Hyuga, Erzra Scarlett, Yoruichi Shihouin, Shura Kirigakure, Maki Oze, Rumi Usagiyama, Mikasa, and _maaaaaaaaybe_ Eightina (Android 18). Same rules: All nerfed to human levels, no inhuman powers. BTW, *great* discussion you guys. Osu!
They disrespected my boy Urameshi, is one of the few people who has any experience fighting at "human scale" He has done world beater things while he was only a regular teenage boy. Not many people in the photo have that. Everyone except Baki, and Saitama are basically super human at birth.
@@JaxBlade Kenshiro knows several fighting styles and each has several techniques. If you take away his "super powers" he still fucks everyone on this list. The only characters here that are touching ken is ohma and raian, and they still lose med diff. Kenshiro spent his whole life studying the body and training to succeed and kill. His knowledge of human anatomy coupled with all of the styles and techniques he mastered makes him one of the best martial artists ever known.
Dang all this character are 3-6 inches taller than me and I weigh 30-40 lbs more (5’6” 172). If I didn’t learn from had what is realistic this facts would had destroyed my confidence in the weight lost journey
Also guys it's possible to be a good enough striker were they can't grapple and it's possible for a grappler to be good enough to smother all strikes and make them useless
Leaving this before I watch… Baki or Goku I know them the best. Goku mastered all Martial Arts on Earth before DBZ, and Baki is the same as if not better than Goku in that aspect. Baki learns the Martial Arts from each opponent after seeing them fight only once and seeks to master all fighting styles while creating his own style…
Here's a fun one I thought of after I started Kengan Ashura manga: What if Cosmo went to Kenichi's highschool during the Kenichi anime? Ragnarok about to get folded. . .LITERALY.
I don't think Ragnarok loses that badly if we assume Cosmo is the same age as Kenichi at the Ragnarok arc, I think that puts him 3 years behind in experience, which is a notable deal, so it'd be a pretty interesting series of fights.
honestly if you look at siatama before getting his powers he was strong enough to rip a crab mans entire body out of there shell through there eye using a tie i don't know how hard that would be but i imagine it would take some effort
I don’t think Goku would do well in this kind of setting if he is Nerfed down to human levels he would ironically be the best match up for a Naruto type fighter. Goku has a habit of dropping defense all together and letting him and his opponent slug it out. Goku would have the higher striking power but he would likely get zoned and wore down with his opponent coming in taking shots and backing out of range wile Goku is trying to end the fights with heavy and powerful shots his size and habit of taking unneeded shots would wear him down and that brings us to Goku’s biggest issue Goku’s fighting stile lacks layers he has no Ground or Grappling game that we have seen.
If he doesn’t have super powers I don’t think he will zone out, pretty sure in dragon ball it shows him with s9me ground game, but of course we wouldn’t see much considering the characters fly.
Baki or Goku SHOULD win. BUT Goku is now so used to power moves and energy attacks, his basic martial arts skills has probably SEVERELY went down over the years... Baki wins.
my brother uses fa jin he learned fa jin, juggling as well as magic and he is currently doing some sword fighting for fun he has a book on sword fighting and everything.
Naruto, mid, where he belongs, behind Dragonball. If our final contenders have seen each other fight, they would have an advantage. Both are top tier on visualization of a fighter. Both have high battle IQs, but Goku is probably the best battle IQ of anime with the depth of experience to have a plan. With his Saiyan biology this makes him the best because his body also adapts to the damage. (Broly is probably the only above Goku in battle IQ with his advanced Saiyan physiology... Goku and the rest of the monkies have to rest to adapt, while Broly's beserker mode allows him to adapt mid fight, get stronger, gaining resistance, and learning all mid fight... He is like Doomsday for Dragonball).
Not too sound salty or a fan boy and respect to the artist and the video but I so feel like they left out most of naruto and sasuke's combat because you gotta understand that even if they're nerf, they still have crazy experience especially with naruto's frog kata which I don't think he needs sage mode for sense its toad Kung fu.
Eren got a little grappling and striking but outside his titan form he has 0 practice Jonathan is big and also has huge striking but has more sword feats than hand to hand. Maybe Jotaro would be a better one
a grounded Goku will use everything he has, just look at the Broly fight in the movie he was using mostly pure skill rather than just brute force. But it’s really just debatable
Great stream bro this whole thing really put into perspective how Strong the Kengan fighters are when Height, Weight, Skill and Technical ability are taken into account The whole analysis on Baki's Grappling was superb cause for a series called Baki the Grappler he aint the best there & I love how ya both cited the actual pages on the spot. RESPECT. Great stream yall!
I've actually looked it up why the series has grappler in the name and i discovered that Baki was based of a real life MMA fighter Taira Naoyuki, and his nickname was "The Grappler"
If we take DBZ: Kakarot into account, Doctor Briefs estimated Vegeta's weight to be 175 lbs(this was when Vegeta was using the gravity chamber in DBZ: Kakarot), meaning Goku would be about 189 lbs.
Wtf goku is chunky for his height. But lightweight (155 lbs) mma fighters are like in the same height spectrum and weigh like 165 to 190 lbs when they aren't in camp or dieting
#animeufc i really like kenichi. he went from "i'm gonna die in this dojo..." to being able to keep up with appachai's knees and kept getting better. honestly, his and ippo's progressions made the most sense to me even to this day
You know what's maybe weird pick? I'd love to see how Spike Spiegel shows up in the list. 6'1, 155lbs, and a skilled Jeet Kun Do fighter with astounding durability. Using his opponents momentum against them. He's not a hard hitter with a nuclear right hand, but he will dance around the ring, and when you go to attack he will evade and strike you 3 or 4 times.. over.. and over.. and over.. until your stamina is gone and the weight of his hits *feel* much harder than they are, and he just blitzes you with speed. Even when fighting someone on an equal skill level, Spike can take a fucking beating to the point where you both just stand there trading slugs. If you don't got the feets, like if he's fighting a boxer, he's gonna out-range and out power you with kicks. Now, if he gets adapted to by the likes of Goku, or grappled by anyone in the top tier... I'd say he's done for. Imo, I'd place Spike in the 5th spot (maybe 6th if you place Vegeta as on par with Goku). You got -The big 3 -Goku/Vegeta -Spike
Spike would be like those guys who trained a traditional style prior to their MMA transition and struggles due to the dated techniques they’re still unlearning/restructuring
When jax talk about kid buu i laugh my ass off so bad and when sensai said he aint got no business being here i could not stop crying that is the funniest thing i ever herd i subscribe just because of that also this is a great video
In defense of Ippo's being at a huge disadvantage against kicks; during the Ippo vs Sawamura fight, Ippo got used to Sawamura's attempts at sweeping his feet, meaning that Ippo would be at least prepared when it comes to kicks, either blocking high kicks or stepping out of low kicks. Of course, if he took any low kick, he'd probably have his Gazelle Punch and Dempsey nullified.
He adjusted to the person. He still doesn’t train it so his body is going to forget it. Kicking him is going to work at least a few times. And even those who train against it can still be hit. Paired with minor experience against it it’s still going to be a massive weakness
I feel like a lot of wing chun's lack of success is in its training methods, the majority of Wing Chun schools don't spar, so the majority of them just don't know how to apply their stuff. If you want an example of solid WC done by someone who actually has fighting experience, Qi La La is a good example. It also has the issue that its optimal range is really close to grappling range, and even the schools that spar rarely train the level of grappling skills necessary to fully utilize that kind of positioning without getting taken down.
Yes a lot of wing chun schools are bad due to improper sparring and over reliance on the fancy looking stuff but The problem with this is that no matter what martial art you practice, you will suck if you don’t properly spar, and if you only practice the stuff that looks cool. This goes for any martial art you can throw out in the spotlight. A lot of bad wing chun practitioners set their primary focus on one thing like chi sao (sticky hands) because it looks cool but they don’t spar enough or they lack in other prime areas like proper footwork, leg kicks, blocks, etc. As a wing chun student I can say that this is sadly true for a lot of kwoons (wing chun school) but there are some hidden gems. I went into wing chun with the same ideas as you but It ended up changing my life. I think the main problem is mcdojo. See, the movie ip man did some good and some bad. It brought wing chun into the spotlight but now some people try and turn it into an industry without care for the proper material which in turn makes a lot of bad wing chun practitioners. If used proberly wing chun can be both close and ranged. And yeah things like trapping are situational but with practice comes perfection. I hope this helped and to clarify this wasn’t meant to be rude or condescending, just informative of the subject matter
@@AshtrayBanditReal facts any martial art can work but if it’s not taught properly you might as well not learn it and while there are some martial arts that are better than others wing Chung when taught properly is dangerous to mess with
Goku really does have great martial arts skills he just doesn’t use them as much when in a heated battle. But a grounded Goku will use everything he has, just look at the Broly fight in the movie he was using mostly pure skill rather than just brute force. But it’s really just debatable
What an amazing topic, looking forward to watch it ! Kinda sad that Rock Lee (Naruto), Sanji (One Piece) and Kiichi Miyazawa (the Tough series) are missing but should be good nonetheless !!
I actually found a manga called Send My Regards to Kenshiro which is about a guy who studied pressure points and acupuncture because of his Fist of the North Star phase and got a job as a message therapist. It’s actually really, REALLY funny
I love stuff like this, getting into exactly how fictional characters fight. Glad Goku and Vegeta got so high on the list. I can't wait to see what you guys say for the lady fighters
Hate to go retro on everyone, and I know he's an assassin and mostly known for firearms and trap set ups, but I really think, because of the outright experience he has, Duke Togo of the professional golgo 13 would be the best "normal person " fighter
Really enjoyed the martial arts breakdowns on this one. I love hearing people with actual knowledge on the subject nerd out on our favorite fictional fighters.
#animeufg. Well I'm a bit biased cus I started reading Tekken chimni and talk about it recently. But I think he is just so much fun as a fighter. And he has some killer strikes specially considering his height. As well as having he's own version of the fa-jin
Takamura would be pretty high I reckon. Maybe between upper-mid and the top tier because of his size and natural weight and the fact that he has shown some kicking and grappling ability as well.
Just finishing tonight's workout. Thanks for the inspiration sensei!🤘💯🔥 Bis, tris, lats and traps! Upper body y'all! Literally got a lightning storm going on in my background too!
Naruto n saske can b in top they are like fucking ninjas (the assassins) n not short like other characters they are train from childhood taijustu n they have grappling to naruto use to train with his clones
To go along with what you said while talking about Raian Kure. When the mountain sparred against Connor Mcgregor the mountain said it would take about 5 Connors to beat him in an actual fight. Like you said size and genetics definitely matters.
Amazing video, I love love love watching breakdowns of Martial arts in fiction by actual experienced practitioners. This one was super interesting, and I’m glad to see a more realistic take on this question as well because I’ve seen one too many toxic Goku simps try to -as usual- say he solos with no evidence to back up the claim. And it hurts me to say that because I’m a HUGE Dragonball fan lol
Lol the only people that say that Goku solos without evidence are just making fun of the nonexistent (or extremely rare) people that do that unironically. Only situation where this might happen is OPM vs. Goku and in that case it’s almost always the people who say Goku would win that have all the evidence.
What are you talking about? The common hot takes from no martial artists are either that Naruto characters have good martial arts or AoT characters have no business being analyzed
I would love too see more videos like this, Going over anime characters and deciding who realistically is the strongest among them if they were normal humans.
This needs a part 2 with other anime/cartoon characters included. Like. I wanna see people like Ichigo, Ranma, and Midoriya step into the ring. Also maybe make a woman's division one too. That would be fun.
Midorya is kinda trash, Martial Arts wise. He only really has the physical training from AM and his Quirk training. He just punches and kicks really hard, due to his quirk. Otherwise he's a small kid.
It would have been fun to hear your thoughts about some fighters from Change Guy. Woo Soo Choi, inside of Kang Too Jee's body, become's a total beast by the end, capable of taking on fighters from multiple fighting styles, with elite speed, power, durability, reflexes, and striking. Even if he doesn't make it above high mid tier, you won't regret checking out the great fights in this series!
I agree with this. I feel like luffy could possibly go low middle because of his adaptability. Though of he beats ippo, it would be a katakuri like situation in terms of how difficult it would be for him.
I think Goku being 137 would be realistic during the Piccolo junior- raditz saga. However, once he hits the gravity chamber the guy is easily at least 165 with like no bodyfat
THANK YOU TO EVERYONE who showed up to the LIVESTREAM!! ALSO MASSIVE Apologies IF AT times it seemed like I was cutting off The Anime Trainer when he was trying to speak, we were recording on Discord & sometimes I couldnt hear his audio as clearly as the Livestream Chat could so I sometimes missed & Spoke over him cause I was misheard him, that wasnt my intent but Was a Fun time!
TIME STAMPS Added
00:00 - Rules & Breakdown Of Matchups
4:39 - Saitama’s Fighting Ability
8:00 -Yusuke’s Fighting Ability
11:48 - Glitch Resolves
13:09 - Luffy’s Fighting Ability
18:30 - Kid Buu’s Fighting Ability
22:47 - Ippo’s Boxing Ability
28:14 - Naruto & Sasuke’s Martial Arts
35:55 - Chinmi’s Martial Arts
41:52- Goku & Vegeta’s Martial Arts
54:56 - Raian Kure’s Fighting PROWESS
1:02:50 - Baki Hanma’s Martial Art Ability
1:12:34 - Glitch Resolves
1:14:16 - Ohma Tokita’s Martial Art Ability
1:23:10 - Rock Lee’s Martial Arts
1:24:45 - All Fighters Ranked Lowest To Highest
1:25:54 - Kenichi & BONUS fighters Ranked
1:40:31 - for KENSHIRO FANS
I still agree with your assessment in the video
Best fucking video I have ever seen
Yo Jax if ever get the chance read the boxer web toon it’s damn good
Yo jaxblade can u try mikey from tokyo revengers that dude got some feet
Bunchinchi tanba, matsuzou and others from garouden
Dawg, I just realised that they included Naruto and Sasuke but didn’t have Guy nor Lee as the representatives of the Naruto series. That’s mad
@@MusicFan752 the only thing they would lose is Gates everything else is literally just super intense martial arts training.
@@Dark-Shinobi “saitama is just super intense training”
sasuke already uses lee's moves anyway
they use a lot of useless Bullshido moves, would get their ass handed by a highschool wrestler with a bit experience in boxing or muay thai
@@vinnyfalzarano4911 things like hidden lotus I a realistic setting would be a grappling move. Like a sumo flip.
So I would say they have grappling but limited amount of it.
Dammn You were so right on the Baki thing tho, that is such a setback for him and something he should work on But Hell I LOVED this stream! Outstanding work to you and Anime Training
Baki would destroy everyone on this list lol. hes only about 10 lb lighter than Ohma, despite having multiple times the skill level of ohma.
They have around the same skill level. And Baki has shown zero ground game, if we go by the manga he knows very little. Also Ohms has still size advantage 10 lbs when fighting is a difference and Ohma has more range too.@@twosad
Female version of this would slap so hard. Make the list, then someone should totally commission the artist who made this to do just that.
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Yusuke Urameshi would be a Nate Diaz or a Jorge Masvidal type of fighter. Not the most polished martial artist but would have an insane amount of durability, stamina and stand up would be very good mixed with decent to having a lot of power in his punches and all of them are street fighters.
Luffy's probably similar then.
Jorge is actually very technical tho. He just loves to make every fight a dog fight, but his skill striking wise and even grappling wise is still top tier tho
@@nhuanang317 there's no way his grappling is top tier.usman, coby, burns, leon, khamzat, chiesa and magny all outclass him.
I think Yusukes ability to contend with actual martial artist with his street fighting is a slept on.
@@mohamedrishwan8819 dude he darced chiesa, shut up his grappling and of cage tdd are good
I like how you broke it down into tiers. Love the shoutout to Kanoh at the end. But Im taking Raian in this one. If he puts forth effort, nobody is beating him
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Absolutely facts. The only person who can rival serious raian (not beat him outright, just equalling him) when the circumstances are realistic is Ohma from Kengan Omega (I mean duh). Other than that there is NO ONE who I think will be able to beat those two if they get serious right off the bat in the fight.
@@antagonisticalex401 What this is so cap
Bruh Raian is only good because of his super powers. Without his powers he’d prob get his ass kicked by half the list.
@@spaghettioverlord3247 idk when but I can already see somebody educating this young man about Raian lol
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- Shishi no Mon
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- Fist Of The Seeker
- Hokuto No Ken
- Souten No Ken
- Ishizoku
- Riki-Oh
- Golden Boy (Kintaro)
- Shura no Mon
- Mutsu Enmei-ryū Gaiden: Shura no Toki
- Shura no Mon: Daini Mon
- Shura no Mon: Fudekage
- Sakigake!! Otokojuku
- Sora Yori Takaku
- Akatsuki! Otokojuku: Seinen yo, Daishi wo Idake
- Tenkamusou Edajima Heihachi Den
- Shiritsu Kiwamemichi Kōkō 2011
- Goku!! Otokojuku
- Shin!! Otokojuku
- Otokojuku Gaiden Date Omito
- Otokojuku Gaiden Kurenai!! Onnajuku
- Otokojuku Gaiden Daigouin Jaki
- Otokojuku Gaiden Akashi Gōji
- Boku!! Otokojuku
- Dororo
I like this form of analysis for power scaling because most the time when it comes to things like skill and versus battles to people will just say oh yeah this guy has the all the skill when in the actual series you don't see him using all of the skills so I like it when people just use purely but the character actually does as a form of power scaling. I'm not saying other versions of power scaling like using statements is invalid but I like this form better.
Did the anime sensei say that he train with Jean Charles Skarbowsky without boasting? The dude is a fucking legend, you should be proud anime sensei
time flies. CONGRATS ON 500K! insane vid to celebrate the milestone.
1:40:31 for KENSHIRO FANS
Completely 100% understand where you’re coming from there’s just too many variables in kengan I love their dynamics. all those things to consider I’ve been saying this the longest it you have to take everything into consideration that’s why I think it’s peak hype right now love the content bro!!
Trained with Jay Hieron before, i got whooped.
At the time I been in muay thai and boxing for 5 years, and wrestling for 3, so I was already pretty well trained going into it, but I got whooped.
Fighters, even those who aren't the best, are on another level, they do to much, its crazy.
Though that was 6 years ago, and I never stopped training, I think he will still beat me.
Watching you two always puts a smile on my face, and this might be my favourite topic discussed on your podcasts so far
Anime UFC- Baki!
Hey Jax have you read 'tough' by tetsuya saruwatari, it's like Baki but imo the fights are even better.
I' m talking about 'tough' btw and not 'kouko Tekkenden tough'. 'Tough' is way better than the other one that I mentioned.
This was such a fun and entertaining live guys 👏🏾👏🏾 Your both energies just make it 💯 better !
Fang of Metsudo would be the ultimate tier if he was brought to the real world. His background is literally one of MMA’s favorite styles
Lmao the saitama analysis was brutal but true. Luffy would be like prince yacine one of the GOATED boxer
Man, if you changed those MMA gloves to boxing gloves in the picture, Ippo would FLOOR everybody.
Id love if goku would go on a journey fighting all our favourite anime heroes where gokus power would be reduced to the level of his opponents!!!!
Hercule would win
There's a reason he's the champ when the people with literal superpowers don't compete
No king from one punch man
Honestly Ippo, Ohma, or Raian if everyone is human. The ones who would be fighters without superhuman abilities anyway.
ippo...bro come on and wheres kaki lol
Yeah, as soon as I clicked on this video, I heard human abilities and thought Ippo won. He's one of the few who fights bigger fighters on the regular and if he can stick to kamogawa teaching and now try to prove anything, he wins it all. THE WIND GOD MAKUNOUCHI!
Baki and ohma r the 2 top tier they could go either way but idk its baki
@@AlphaYT-tm2wp once you take away the superhuman stuff, everything about adrenaline control etc. that makes baki baki (including no demon back) he's really not that good. He is built only for his own universe.
@@Oskawano im comparing his experiences and accourse no power or demon back like or hid other powers baki has faught different style he has more expirience that any of this fighter he has travel and remember he started since he was a kid he fought many style compare to the other fighters..uk?
I would argue that with Wing Chun, that's only one part of his fighting style, there are fighters who use alot of the hand trap amd sticky hands stuff well in actual fighting i.e. Tony Ferguson and esspecially Roberto Duran. So i think it's unfair to use just Wing Chun and because of that to bring him down to "mid-tier"
@@jashardwallington as someone who recently started mma classes after a few years of wing chun, learn some basic boxing, kickboxingf, whatever before you learn wing chun. It should not be your base state it should be used as an additive (i think wing chun needs at least a decade of sparring, training and changes in it internally before it can become a sport or a main martial art)
It would be awesome if you made a Tough Like The Toons for one of the best comic book characters of all:
Dick Grayson
A.K.A. the first robin
A.K.A. agent 37
A.K.A. *NIGHTWING*
To be fair with Baki though, he's never really had to use defensive/offensive grappling before since he can just one tap people. He's shown to be able to do stuff as y'all stated, and he probably does have the skills, but he's just never had to utilize them in an extensive way before.
i dont think he ever one tapped "important" characters
@@badasslama3228 Well yeah, but as he is as of rn in the story he could probably one tap most of the supporting cast that's A-Tier and below which is what I mean. Additionally he likes getting into slug fests so idk
Didn't he choke out Ali and Jack with grappling?
Just watched the first half I'll come back in the weekend to watch the rest bc I dont have the time to watch the wholevid for the moment
I hope you guys can do another one with female characters like Mikasa vs 18 or lady Sunada vs. Yoruichi.
i feel like garou has a couple things you guys slept on just because water stream rock smashing fist is fictional.
-for one thing, theres his insane learning/ adaptation ability. He learns as he fights so the longer he lasts, the less effective your techniques will be, and the more techniques he will have to use against you.
-then theres his ability to take punishment. yes, it would be significantly nerfed due to the fact that hed be at human level, but the ability to eat damage is really useful in a fight, and its something you'd have to take into consideration when examining him as a fighter, just like you would with luffy's flexibility for example.
-water stream rock smashing fist is fictional, but there are certain concepts in it that you can extrapolate from, such as the fact that it'd probably make him a strong counter puncher.
Tbh…. I don’t think tanking damage is a superhuman feat. Ppl take hard blows and bounce back all the time. It’s like imagine giving a hard guy punch to Bruce lee when he flexed up. The tension of his muscles will be reinforced. I would feel like Garou can take down half of this list.
I feel like "Kid Buu but a human" is kinda redundant when you've got Raian there.
Alright that guy next to naruto sounded awesome. I’m with jax I need to read it and why isn’t the most realistic person in anime,Kenichi, ain’t here either. Him and rock lee would be great here
Going with Yugi Itadori, even before he got curse energy he had insane durability and power, plus he already had training in martial arts leading the only thing to teach him in the series being curse energy.
Man gets slapped by alot of these guys if its straight martial arts
i like to think a freshly evolved charizard is 5'9' but it can still mature and grow. it evolves at 36, so theoretically theres alot more left in its life span
*For a Female version of this list:* Chun Li, Mai Shiranui, Videl, Morgiana, Hinata Hyuga, Erzra Scarlett, Yoruichi Shihouin, Shura Kirigakure, Maki Oze, Rumi Usagiyama, Mikasa, and _maaaaaaaaybe_ Eightina (Android 18). Same rules: All nerfed to human levels, no inhuman powers.
BTW, *great* discussion you guys. Osu!
That would be amazing
They disrespected my boy Urameshi, is one of the few people who has any experience fighting at "human scale" He has done world beater things while he was only a regular teenage boy. Not many people in the photo have that. Everyone except Baki, and Saitama are basically super human at birth.
Fist of the North Star Kenshiro: am I a joke to you?
1:40:31 as a matter of fact lol
@@JaxBlade Kenshiro knows several fighting styles and each has several techniques.
If you take away his "super powers" he still fucks everyone on this list.
The only characters here that are touching ken is ohma and raian, and they still lose med diff.
Kenshiro spent his whole life studying the body and training to succeed and kill. His knowledge of human anatomy coupled with all of the styles and techniques he mastered makes him one of the best martial artists ever known.
Can you do like a Meliodas from Seven Deadly Sins Tough like of toonz
The best is DBZ. Using realism hajime no ippo or kengan ashura have literally no competition. So no powers is kengan ashura for sure
I wonder how well Kohinata Minoru would do in this list?
Really enjoyed this
Seeing kid buu out of all buu's on this list made me laugh
Dang all this character are 3-6 inches taller than me and I weigh 30-40 lbs more (5’6” 172). If I didn’t learn from had what is realistic this facts would had destroyed my confidence in the weight lost journey
Also guys it's possible to be a good enough striker were they can't grapple and it's possible for a grappler to be good enough to smother all strikes and make them useless
40:44 internet archive has the anime in full😉
The thing is, no matter how strong a shonen protag is, if they face, as an enemy, OPM I can't imagine any outcome but death.
Booyah bro
Normal Humans?
Baki, Ippo, Goku, Vegeta, Sauske (In that order) and.. thats kinda where I land honestly.
Leaving this before I watch…
Baki or Goku I know them the best.
Goku mastered all Martial Arts on Earth before DBZ, and Baki is the same as if not better than Goku in that aspect.
Baki learns the Martial Arts from each opponent after seeing them fight only once and seeks to master all fighting styles while creating his own style…
On earth and from the gods as well
But i give it to goku tho
Here's a fun one I thought of after I started Kengan Ashura manga: What if Cosmo went to Kenichi's highschool during the Kenichi anime?
Ragnarok about to get folded. . .LITERALY.
I don't think Ragnarok loses that badly if we assume Cosmo is the same age as Kenichi at the Ragnarok arc, I think that puts him 3 years behind in experience, which is a notable deal, so it'd be a pretty interesting series of fights.
@@greatsage1288 Good point. I wish we could see what that would be like.
Best fucking video I have ever seen
And Goku has mike Tyson or Francis punching power if we talking about them being human
honestly if you look at siatama before getting his powers he was strong enough to rip a crab mans entire body out of there shell through there eye using a tie i don't know how hard that would be but i imagine it would take some effort
I don’t think Goku would do well in this kind of setting if he is Nerfed down to human levels he would ironically be the best match up for a Naruto type fighter. Goku has a habit of dropping defense all together and letting him and his opponent slug it out. Goku would have the higher striking power but he would likely get zoned and wore down with his opponent coming in taking shots and backing out of range wile Goku is trying to end the fights with heavy and powerful shots his size and habit of taking unneeded shots would wear him down and that brings us to Goku’s biggest issue Goku’s fighting stile lacks layers he has no Ground or Grappling game that we have seen.
If he doesn’t have super powers I don’t think he will zone out, pretty sure in dragon ball it shows him with s9me ground game, but of course we wouldn’t see much considering the characters fly.
yeah his grappling is nothing special at all, considering we see him being put in basic chokeholds and not really knowing what to do
The jostars with no powers should be on this list and levius.
This happened either that you were talking crap about Batman's martial arts skills or that Batman is a big fan of Baki.
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Another cool version of this is with swordsmanship since there is so much swordsman with normal human skill and ability. No three sword style tho 😂
This needs to be animated everyone - kid buu
Baki or Goku SHOULD win.
BUT Goku is now so used to power moves and energy attacks, his basic martial arts skills has probably SEVERELY went down over the years...
Baki wins.
It definitely didn't lol
And he is not a real life human
Just look at the broly movie my guy
He was even using boxing
Even tho it was for a little bit
my brother uses fa jin he learned fa jin, juggling as well as magic and he is currently doing some sword fighting for fun he has a book on sword fighting and everything.
Naruto, mid, where he belongs, behind Dragonball.
If our final contenders have seen each other fight, they would have an advantage. Both are top tier on visualization of a fighter. Both have high battle IQs, but Goku is probably the best battle IQ of anime with the depth of experience to have a plan. With his Saiyan biology this makes him the best because his body also adapts to the damage. (Broly is probably the only above Goku in battle IQ with his advanced Saiyan physiology... Goku and the rest of the monkies have to rest to adapt, while Broly's beserker mode allows him to adapt mid fight, get stronger, gaining resistance, and learning all mid fight... He is like Doomsday for Dragonball).
I'd like to see Maki Aikawa from Air Master.
Not too sound salty or a fan boy and respect to the artist and the video
but I so feel like they left out most of naruto and sasuke's combat because you gotta understand that even if they're nerf, they still have crazy experience especially with naruto's frog kata which I don't think he needs sage mode for sense its toad Kung fu.
I got Some more Characters that could Do Well on this list
Eren Yeager
Jonathan Joestar
Eren got a little grappling and striking but outside his titan form he has 0 practice
Jonathan is big and also has huge striking but has more sword feats than hand to hand. Maybe Jotaro would be a better one
a grounded Goku will use everything he has, just look at the Broly fight in the movie he was using mostly pure skill rather than just brute force. But it’s really just debatable
Great stream bro this whole thing really put into perspective how Strong the Kengan fighters are when Height, Weight, Skill and Technical ability are taken into account
The whole analysis on Baki's Grappling was superb cause for a series called Baki the Grappler he aint the best there & I love how ya both cited the actual pages on the spot.
RESPECT. Great stream yall!
He isn't the best in grappling but like in the whole series he is the best fighter
I've actually looked it up why the series has grappler in the name and i discovered that Baki was based of a real life MMA fighter Taira Naoyuki, and his nickname was "The Grappler"
If we take DBZ: Kakarot into account, Doctor Briefs estimated Vegeta's weight to be 175 lbs(this was when Vegeta was using the gravity chamber in DBZ: Kakarot), meaning Goku would be about 189 lbs.
Wtf goku is chunky for his height. But lightweight (155 lbs) mma fighters are like in the same height spectrum and weigh like 165 to 190 lbs when they aren't in camp or dieting
Goku being bellow 70kg makes zero sense.
@@kebobarmageddov2110 Goku does eat a lot, and never seems to go on diets.
@@good8619 yeh have you seen the guy no chance he's 130pounds
@@sirjanus3954 Dude looks like a brick in some shots, yet very lean in SSG, but even in SSG he should be above 130 easily.
That was an amazing stream the point on Ohma's Size and Grappling was what I was thinking too. LOVED THIS!!
#animeufc
i really like kenichi. he went from "i'm gonna die in this dojo..." to being able to keep up with appachai's knees and kept getting better. honestly, his and ippo's progressions made the most sense to me even to this day
Kenichi is so good all the dojo characters are so fun. Even most of the side characters.
I wish they would carry it on, the OVAs are cool tho.
@@Beleth420 same. we need more kenichi
You know what's maybe weird pick?
I'd love to see how Spike Spiegel shows up in the list.
6'1, 155lbs, and a skilled Jeet Kun Do fighter with astounding durability. Using his opponents momentum against them.
He's not a hard hitter with a nuclear right hand, but he will dance around the ring, and when you go to attack he will evade and strike you 3 or 4 times.. over.. and over.. and over.. until your stamina is gone and the weight of his hits *feel* much harder than they are, and he just blitzes you with speed.
Even when fighting someone on an equal skill level, Spike can take a fucking beating to the point where you both just stand there trading slugs. If you don't got the feets, like if he's fighting a boxer, he's gonna out-range and out power you with kicks.
Now, if he gets adapted to by the likes of Goku, or grappled by anyone in the top tier... I'd say he's done for. Imo, I'd place Spike in the 5th spot (maybe 6th if you place Vegeta as on par with Goku).
You got
-The big 3
-Goku/Vegeta
-Spike
Spike would be like those guys who trained a traditional style prior to their MMA transition and struggles due to the dated techniques they’re still unlearning/restructuring
When jax talk about kid buu i laugh my ass off so bad and when sensai said he aint got no business being here i could not stop crying that is the funniest thing i ever herd i subscribe just because of that also this is a great video
In defense of Ippo's being at a huge disadvantage against kicks; during the Ippo vs Sawamura fight, Ippo got used to Sawamura's attempts at sweeping his feet, meaning that Ippo would be at least prepared when it comes to kicks, either blocking high kicks or stepping out of low kicks. Of course, if he took any low kick, he'd probably have his Gazelle Punch and Dempsey nullified.
Takamuru also hits him with high kicks and wwe moves thruout the whole show
He adjusted to the person. He still doesn’t train it so his body is going to forget it. Kicking him is going to work at least a few times. And even those who train against it can still be hit. Paired with minor experience against it it’s still going to be a massive weakness
I feel like a lot of wing chun's lack of success is in its training methods, the majority of Wing Chun schools don't spar, so the majority of them just don't know how to apply their stuff. If you want an example of solid WC done by someone who actually has fighting experience, Qi La La is a good example. It also has the issue that its optimal range is really close to grappling range, and even the schools that spar rarely train the level of grappling skills necessary to fully utilize that kind of positioning without getting taken down.
Even of they did spar its all bullshit
@@unknownbear9811 those chain punches and traps are as practical as aikido
Yes a lot of wing chun schools are bad due to improper sparring and over reliance on the fancy looking stuff but The problem with this is that no matter what martial art you practice, you will suck if you don’t properly spar, and if you only practice the stuff that looks cool. This goes for any martial art you can throw out in the spotlight. A lot of bad wing chun practitioners set their primary focus on one thing like chi sao (sticky hands) because it looks cool but they don’t spar enough or they lack in other prime areas like proper footwork, leg kicks, blocks, etc. As a wing chun student I can say that this is sadly true for a lot of kwoons (wing chun school) but there are some hidden gems. I went into wing chun with the same ideas as you but It ended up changing my life. I think the main problem is mcdojo. See, the movie ip man did some good and some bad. It brought wing chun into the spotlight but now some people try and turn it into an industry without care for the proper material which in turn makes a lot of bad wing chun practitioners. If used proberly wing chun can be both close and ranged. And yeah things like trapping are situational but with practice comes perfection. I hope this helped and to clarify this wasn’t meant to be rude or condescending, just informative of the subject matter
@@AshtrayBanditReal facts any martial art can work but if it’s not taught properly you might as well not learn it and while there are some martial arts that are better than others wing Chung when taught properly is dangerous to mess with
Spot on.. most wing chun schools have no pressure testing against a resisting opponent so they’re basically just larping.
Best overall skills baki.
Best hands ippo.
Best takedowns hinomarou.
Best mindset goku
Love that someone acknowledges Hinomaru Sumo🤘🏽🤘🏽
Goku really does have great martial arts skills he just doesn’t use them as much when in a heated battle. But a grounded Goku will use everything he has, just look at the Broly fight in the movie he was using mostly pure skill rather than just brute force. But it’s really just debatable
Nah I think Goku takes all
I mean, Goku have best mindset/battle iq AND one of the best martial arts as well, he must be at least 3th or 2nd strongest in martial arts here
...baki has all of those...lmao
What an amazing topic, looking forward to watch it !
Kinda sad that Rock Lee (Naruto), Sanji (One Piece) and Kiichi Miyazawa (the Tough series) are missing but should be good nonetheless !!
Kiichi is the only one that’d be top tier
Sanji would be very strong but if he just has kicks he’s too one dimensional
Kenshiro is the best 💪Hokuto Shinken is invincible.
Yes, I agree 💯👍
1:40:31 for KENSHIRO FANS
I actually found a manga called Send My Regards to Kenshiro which is about a guy who studied pressure points and acupuncture because of his Fist of the North Star phase and got a job as a message therapist. It’s actually really, REALLY funny
They all are Insanely great fighters. But BAKI & OHMA are just most fitted for UFC or BELLATOR
I love stuff like this, getting into exactly how fictional characters fight. Glad Goku and Vegeta got so high on the list. I can't wait to see what you guys say for the lady fighters
Hate to go retro on everyone, and I know he's an assassin and mostly known for firearms and trap set ups, but I really think, because of the outright experience he has, Duke Togo of the professional golgo 13 would be the best "normal person " fighter
Really enjoyed the martial arts breakdowns on this one. I love hearing people with actual knowledge on the subject nerd out on our favorite fictional fighters.
Can’t wait to finish this, thank you for all the good times you have given us
thank you for your support!
#animeufg.
Well I'm a bit biased cus I started reading Tekken chimni and talk about it recently. But I think he is just so much fun as a fighter. And he has some killer strikes specially considering his height. As well as having he's own version of the fa-jin
I wonder where other Hajime no Ippo characters would fit in on this, like Takamura or Ricardo Martinez
What about the GOAT Woli jk 😂
Takamura would be pretty high I reckon. Maybe between upper-mid and the top tier because of his size and natural weight and the fact that he has shown some kicking and grappling ability as well.
Just finishing tonight's workout. Thanks for the inspiration sensei!🤘💯🔥
Bis, tris, lats and traps! Upper body y'all!
Literally got a lightning storm going on in my background too!
Ippo in real life is Naoya Inoue, the best bantamweight boxer now
Naruto n saske can b in top they are like fucking ninjas (the assassins) n not short like other characters they are train from childhood taijustu n they have grappling to naruto use to train with his clones
To go along with what you said while talking about Raian Kure. When the mountain sparred against Connor Mcgregor the mountain said it would take about 5 Connors to beat him in an actual fight. Like you said size and genetics definitely matters.
Baki grappling is notoriously bad the author draws the legs on backwards from the knees down sometimes.
Amazing video, I love love love watching breakdowns of Martial arts in fiction by actual experienced practitioners. This one was super interesting, and I’m glad to see a more realistic take on this question as well because I’ve seen one too many toxic Goku simps try to -as usual- say he solos with no evidence to back up the claim. And it hurts me to say that because I’m a HUGE Dragonball fan lol
Lol the only people that say that Goku solos without evidence are just making fun of the nonexistent (or extremely rare) people that do that unironically. Only situation where this might happen is OPM vs. Goku and in that case it’s almost always the people who say Goku would win that have all the evidence.
What are you talking about? The common hot takes from no martial artists are either that Naruto characters have good martial arts or AoT characters have no business being analyzed
I would love too see more videos like this, Going over anime characters and deciding who realistically is the strongest among them if they were normal humans.
This needs a part 2 with other anime/cartoon characters included. Like. I wanna see people like Ichigo, Ranma, and Midoriya step into the ring. Also maybe make a woman's division one too. That would be fun.
A lot of the Ranma cast would make for an interesting study in strength and technique.
Ichigo uses a sword he doesn't really box with his opponents
Midorya is kinda trash, Martial Arts wise. He only really has the physical training from AM and his Quirk training. He just punches and kicks really hard, due to his quirk. Otherwise he's a small kid.
Masaru Daimon would be good to add too
@@hihello-sk5ql he did take karate as a kid but thats about it.
Happy for my boy Jax, proud of you 🥲🥲🥳🥳🥳
Thanks mah man!
For those who say Goku is the best fighter here u need to watch more martial arts anime.
Having Kid Boo is such an L. They could’ve added Sanji, Neji, Rock Lee, and other Baki & One Punch Man characters
I feel like all masters and grandmasters in kenichi would be above upper middle
It'd have to be Ohma, his martial art is actual bullshit.
It would have been fun to hear your thoughts about some fighters from Change Guy. Woo Soo Choi, inside of Kang Too Jee's body, become's a total beast by the end, capable of taking on fighters from multiple fighting styles, with elite speed, power, durability, reflexes, and striking. Even if he doesn't make it above high mid tier, you won't regret checking out the great fights in this series!
Not luffy and not saitama because they use basic skills unlike the others
I agree with this. I feel like luffy could possibly go low middle because of his adaptability. Though of he beats ippo, it would be a katakuri like situation in terms of how difficult it would be for him.
I think Goku being 137 would be realistic during the Piccolo junior- raditz saga. However, once he hits the gravity chamber the guy is easily at least 165 with like no bodyfat