Great video, I've been wondering whether there would be a new version of Painter too. I wish they would at leat remove the ad popups though. AI is the easy go to for these companies at the moment but i think the incorporation of more 3D into painting software would be useful and more rewarding creatively, 3D software like Blender are incorporating more tools for painterly and stylised art and better drawing and animation tools like Grease Pencil.
@artsquirrel Thank you. much appreciated. I have seen a little about grease pencil but not used it myself. I think it is a great point though. The sort of surface texture that interests me is almost 2.5D sculpting and it does feel like some 3d style tools would fit well into that.
@@BasementPicasso yes 2.5d is interesting to me as well, Blender's sculpting tools are good for that, I have also experimented with other methods. I wish I could incorporate that with the digital oils of Rebelle somehow, I'm hoping they allow exportation of height map and normal map from the paintings one day. All the best.
The only thing I wish Corel Painter had built-in is a Gamut Mask device. I didn't realize just how much wasn't taught to me about color back at university. I've found AI to be stale and it's not a style I really prefer for illustrations. I almost wish most commercial art today looked like those old painted film illustrations because they were warmer or had exciting brush strokes. I might even explore older art styles just to escape from photorealism.
@B.B.Digital_Forest I totally agree. Traditional had a lot of subtle quality that has been lost in most digital work. I am increasingly gravitating back towards traditional work to enjoy that surface quality.
Painter is my favorite raster program - great brushes, pencils, inking brushes for comics - good brush calibration and smoothing - the best blenders also. I prefer it to almost everything else for just straight drawing and painting, however it needs more practical tools like clipping layers, warp mesh, adjustment layers, etc. Also needs an upgrade to the basic tools in a few places - needs ability to make straight lines by holding Shift instead of the straight lines tool which is slow for example. The UI is a tad clunky in some places but mostly I like it just fine - being able to dock panels any way I like and create custom panels works great. Sadly I fear that Painter is done - there was no Painter 2024 and no announcement of Painter 2025 yet. I hope I am wrong - I will be really sad if Painter goes away. Also I don't need AI and don't want AI. We all know that Adobe has lost a lot of users lately. Alludo/Corel could grab some new users just by improving some features and rejecting AI in my opinion (and lowering the price).
@toad1971 I completely agree. Painter was my favourite App for a long time. It has a lot of UI flexibility & was great from making custom icon inputs that I used on my MS Surface tablet at the time. I am not going to hold my breath but it would be a shame if it is done.
Really helped me see why Painter might be stagnating. I hadn't consider the effects of AI on them. I hope they start trimming the fat and make painter work on more hardware. Who knows maybe we'll see another program that is available on Linux to (probably not from corel but someone maybe).
Corel has some remarkable brushes, but it would be hard for them to beat Rebelle's watercolor, metallic paints, and PRICE. People new to digital art aren't going to pay $400 for Painter, when they can get Rebelle for $90 to $150, and occasionally the older version for $10. If Corel can keep the brushes, lower the price, and make the program easier to use, then they can compete. Corel already has Vision FX image generation, so they can always work to improve that.
@@BasementPicasso Vision FX does better with some things, like scenery. If you ask it to draw a monkey the eyes can be very odd, and it may have extra fingers, etc.
@@MrTugwit is it purely text to image? I think what makes Invoke so string is the blend of text to image, inpainting, regional guidance and control layers. Combine that with manual painting and you have a huge amount of control. I might do a video on it at some point
@@BasementPicasso It's a plugin for Painter, Paintshop, Photoshop, Affinity. It basically makes variations of images depending on your text prompts. Open an image, which can be a photo or your painting. In Painter or Paintshop choose Effects menu > Vision FX. Put in your text prompts, and it will make variations of your image. Some are lousy, some are good. I have a fast processor, and it takes about 1 minute to make an image. Sometimes instead of an image you get NSFW, which means "not safe for work". I have no idea how it decides that. The images are not nearly as good as Bing Image Creator. There's a brief summary "How to use Vision FX 2.0" at ua-cam.com/video/noSLTH9OzQE/v-deo.html
@@BasementPicasso I have Vision FX 2.0 now, and it is MUCH improved, MUCH faster, and will also do original images from text prompts alone. It is now MUCH more useful.
Corel has some unique brushes and mechanics (every software has its own look and feel). But the layer thing sucks, and the UI is so cumbersome, and not friendly at all to new users. They need a ground up redesign of their UI.
@gurujot951 Completely agree. Some of the brushes are excellent. It was a big part of why I got into it in the first place. But it does just feel like a very old piece of software now
I still use my 2018 license time to time, but I've been wondering when a later version would come out.
I am the same. I very occasionally use the 2023 version, but increasingly infrequently now.
Thank you for sharing your insight 😊
@aline9123 You are very welcome! It is always good to know when people find the content useful :-)
Great video, I've been wondering whether there would be a new version of Painter too. I wish they would at leat remove the ad popups though. AI is the easy go to for these companies at the moment but i think the incorporation of more 3D into painting software would be useful and more rewarding creatively, 3D software like Blender are incorporating more tools for painterly and stylised art and better drawing and animation tools like Grease Pencil.
@artsquirrel Thank you. much appreciated. I have seen a little about grease pencil but not used it myself. I think it is a great point though. The sort of surface texture that interests me is almost 2.5D sculpting and it does feel like some 3d style tools would fit well into that.
@@BasementPicasso yes 2.5d is interesting to me as well, Blender's sculpting tools are good for that, I have also experimented with other methods. I wish I could incorporate that with the digital oils of Rebelle somehow, I'm hoping they allow exportation of height map and normal map from the paintings one day. All the best.
The only thing I wish Corel Painter had built-in is a Gamut Mask device. I didn't realize just how much wasn't taught to me about color back at university. I've found AI to be stale and it's not a style I really prefer for illustrations. I almost wish most commercial art today looked like those old painted film illustrations because they were warmer or had exciting brush strokes. I might even explore older art styles just to escape from photorealism.
@B.B.Digital_Forest I totally agree. Traditional had a lot of subtle quality that has been lost in most digital work. I am increasingly gravitating back towards traditional work to enjoy that surface quality.
Painter is my favorite raster program - great brushes, pencils, inking brushes for comics - good brush calibration and smoothing - the best blenders also. I prefer it to almost everything else for just straight drawing and painting, however it needs more practical tools like clipping layers, warp mesh, adjustment layers, etc. Also needs an upgrade to the basic tools in a few places - needs ability to make straight lines by holding Shift instead of the straight lines tool which is slow for example. The UI is a tad clunky in some places but mostly I like it just fine - being able to dock panels any way I like and create custom panels works great. Sadly I fear that Painter is done - there was no Painter 2024 and no announcement of Painter 2025 yet. I hope I am wrong - I will be really sad if Painter goes away. Also I don't need AI and don't want AI. We all know that Adobe has lost a lot of users lately. Alludo/Corel could grab some new users just by improving some features and rejecting AI in my opinion (and lowering the price).
@toad1971 I completely agree. Painter was my favourite App for a long time. It has a lot of UI flexibility & was great from making custom icon inputs that I used on my MS Surface tablet at the time. I am not going to hold my breath but it would be a shame if it is done.
Really helped me see why Painter might be stagnating. I hadn't consider the effects of AI on them. I hope they start trimming the fat and make painter work on more hardware. Who knows maybe we'll see another program that is available on Linux to (probably not from corel but someone maybe).
@Kaffius Thanks. I don't use Linux, but I can see it is a bit like Android - a lot of the "best" programs miss it out.
Corel has some remarkable brushes, but it would be hard for them to beat Rebelle's watercolor, metallic paints, and PRICE. People new to digital art aren't going to pay $400 for Painter, when they can get Rebelle for $90 to $150, and occasionally the older version for $10. If Corel can keep the brushes, lower the price, and make the program easier to use, then they can compete. Corel already has Vision FX image generation, so they can always work to improve that.
@MrTugwit Completely agree. Haven't looked at Vision FX image generation so I will take a look - thanks for the suggestion.
@@BasementPicasso Vision FX does better with some things, like scenery. If you ask it to draw a monkey the eyes can be very odd, and it may have extra fingers, etc.
@@MrTugwit is it purely text to image? I think what makes Invoke so string is the blend of text to image, inpainting, regional guidance and control layers. Combine that with manual painting and you have a huge amount of control. I might do a video on it at some point
@@BasementPicasso It's a plugin for Painter, Paintshop, Photoshop, Affinity. It basically makes variations of images depending on your text prompts. Open an image, which can be a photo or your painting. In Painter or Paintshop choose Effects menu > Vision FX. Put in your text prompts, and it will make variations of your image. Some are lousy, some are good. I have a fast processor, and it takes about 1 minute to make an image. Sometimes instead of an image you get NSFW, which means "not safe for work". I have no idea how it decides that. The images are not nearly as good as Bing Image Creator. There's a brief summary "How to use Vision FX 2.0" at ua-cam.com/video/noSLTH9OzQE/v-deo.html
@@BasementPicasso I have Vision FX 2.0 now, and it is MUCH improved, MUCH faster, and will also do original images from text prompts alone. It is now MUCH more useful.
Corel has some unique brushes and mechanics (every software has its own look and feel). But the layer thing sucks, and the UI is so cumbersome, and not friendly at all to new users. They need a ground up redesign of their UI.
@gurujot951 Completely agree. Some of the brushes are excellent. It was a big part of why I got into it in the first place. But it does just feel like a very old piece of software now