California temporarily halts school district’s ‘forced outing policy’ | On Balance
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- Опубліковано 5 вер 2023
- Just days after California Attorney General Rob Bonta announced his intention to halt what he described as a “forced outing policy," his office scored a legal victory in blocking the regulation. Sonja Shaw, president of the Chino Vally Unified School District Board, joins “On Balance With Leland Vittert” to weigh in, saying, “Why is he wasting our taxpayer dollars when we have (rising) crime... and we have homeless through the roof and yet here he is telling parents, ‘You are not allowed to be a part of your child’s life’ with certain issues.”
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LA should be given to Cuba!
Thats disappointing. Parents have the right to know.
And then do what? I've heard of children being thrown out of homes as well as physically attacked by parents. California state law gives students a certain right of privacy, even when it comes to keeping certain things from the student's parents.
This is a very personal thing, and often the student might have a better sense of whether or not it should be kept from the parent because of the potential for a violent response or a possibly being thrown out.
@@ypw510 what percentage of parents have a violent response or throw their kids out of the house? Parents love their children I would assume most in the 90 percentile plus will try to do everything to protect an honor their children wishes. A small percentage of parents are just violent, regardless of the issue. We govern to affect, the largest percentage of people, the largest percentage of people here in this instance would benefit from parent involvement.
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But the law recognizes a student’s right of privacy in these matters. Even with respect to the student’s parents. The school board’s decision runs counter to those laws and a judge correctly ruled that they did.
This is just crazy wrong.
Insane!
Some would think the parents should already know.
There was a child unalived in a California public middle school because of THIS EXACT ISSUE!!!! My brother's son. The school counselor instigated the chaos.
So sorry these radicals don’t care about children
It’s going to bring the system down. They think this shit is ok but it’s not.
I'm so sorry I send my condolences. We need to do better for these children who's lives really depend on the secracy
The biggest issue is parents who might toss their kids out if they found out, but obviously violence against transgender children by parents is another possibility.
@ypw510 So, all publicly schooled children should be exposed to whatever goes, as the teachers and counselors see it, for the sake of one confused child?🙄 Thirty completely innocent children witnessed the unaliving. What if one of them was your child?
@kingoftheboat Booing at an event where people are talking is not bigotry. Bigotry is behaving intolerantly towards someone because of their race or sex for example. All the people were doing were booing other people at an event. I have been to meetings where people have booed other people when they were expressing their opinions. It's not that big a deal. Bigotry is generally used in the context of more extreme examples such as the KKK and how they murdered black people rather than an event like this where people were just booing someone while they are at a meeting.
Furthermore, that prick of an executive (Mrs. Shaw) also did not respect their privacy by mocking them about them being on camera and all that crap. That is screwed up! She is not showing respect towards other people when she is mocking people's personal privacy and that is also not the way that someone should behave when running a meeting. It shows overall disrespect towards other people.
Also, it's not fair to say, "a bigot treats a person with different opinions the same way we would treat someone who supports the exploitation of women" you know? All they did was boo people talking whereas someone who supports the exploitation of women would be chastised to a much greater extent. Overall, Mrs. Shaw was out of line. She sucks as someone in a management position and she should be terminated. People should also not be recording people at a meeting and it should not be put on UA-cam. People should not have their personal privacy violated.
When a child gets in a fight in the lunchroom, the child has engaged in misconduct. A parent being notified of misconduct is entirely different from a class of children being singled out for the gender identity group they belong to and “reported” to parents.
Parents have the absolute right to know whatever is going with their children. The school has no right to hold back info about their children. Period end of story!
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Sure. They probably have an absolute right, which means an absolute right to throw out a child. Possibly an absolute right to kill the child (which has happened with parents of gay kids). I guess you'd be OK with the absolute right of the parent to know, and possibly act out on it.
I remember getting into discussions on this where I pointed out that some studies show that a sizable number of children have been thrown out by their parents after being discovered or suspected of LGBT status. Or possibly being killed by a parent in anger (look up Gabriel Fernandez). One guy said that as long as there's 99.4% of the cases being relatively OK, the parents' right are superior to the right of privacy of the child and that you can't take away those parental rights on the chance that a child might be harmed. Which is is silly.
And the trigger for this by the school district was supposed to be whether or not the child requests a different gender pronoun to be used, which is a requirement by the state as an accommodation for the student, but where state policy is that the parent is not to be notified of this since it's up to the student to let the parent know. This is from the California Dept of Education:
"A transgender or gender nonconforming student may not express their gender identity openly in all contexts, including at home. Revealing a student’s gender identity or expression to others may compromise the student’s safety. Thus, preserving a student’s privacy is of the utmost importance. The right of transgender students to keep their transgender status private is grounded in California’s antidiscrimination laws as well as federal and state laws. Disclosing that a student is transgender without the student’s permission may violate California’s antidiscrimination law by increasing the student’s vulnerability to harassment and may violate the student’s right to privacy.
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California Constitution - Minors enjoy a right to privacy under Article I, Section I of the California Constitution that is enforceable against private parties and government officials. The right to privacy encompasses the right to non-disclosure (autonomy privacy) as well as in the collection and dissemination of personal information such as medical records and gender identity (informational privacy).
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Pursuant to the above protections, schools must consult with a transgender student to determine who can or will be informed of the student’s transgender status, if anyone, including the student’s family. With rare exceptions, schools are required to respect the limitations that a student places on the disclosure of their transgender status, including not sharing that information with the student’s parents."
It's pretty clear what the school board wants. They obviously would prefer that kids not report that they want a change in gender pronouns, and/or they're fine with angry parents taking it out on their children. Because that's inevitably what's going to happen to some students.
@@ypw510 The parents rights are the only rights that matter here. Yes, they have a right to act on it because anyone who believes that a boy can become a girl or vice versa has mental problems and they must seek treatment forthwith. The school leadership should also be fired for their evil actions.
@@ypw510 that’s a little hyperbolic.. is there any evidence to suggest that parents are killing their LBGTQ children? I haven’t heard/seen any of that. Except maybe one from several years back.. If there was, of course, you would have an argument here, if not you don’t.
Hey @sonjashaw2026 what was your High School GPA? What did you score on the SAT?