5G Frame Structure: Learn to Navigate the 5G Frame and Channels

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  • Опубліковано 24 лис 2024

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  • @OurTechPlanet
    @OurTechPlanet  2 роки тому +1

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  • @Librandu_baiter
    @Librandu_baiter 2 роки тому +7

    This is the first time I have been able to understand how physical channels are transported in frame. Very clear. Thanks.

    • @OurTechPlanet
      @OurTechPlanet  2 роки тому

      Glad to hear that! Means a lot :)

    • @anuragchakra
      @anuragchakra 8 місяців тому

      Me too absolutely agree with you...I was about to write the same thing and saw another person wrote..Wow I too just loved very nicely colourful and clear succinct explanation...Thank you for creating wonderful content..Please keep adding more content .. Subscribed just now 👍👌🏻🙂🌟

  • @jaygupta2875
    @jaygupta2875 Рік тому +1

    I had several 5G concepts in my head and you tied them together so brilliantly. Your video series is the best 5G training that I've seen.

  • @muhammadzain5142
    @muhammadzain5142 3 роки тому +3

    Have been an avid reader of your blog. Glad to see the videos. Best of luck for the channel👍

  • @naeemjuwle2467
    @naeemjuwle2467 2 роки тому +2

    Very simplified! Thanks alot.. Waiting for a session on BWP & Coreset.

    • @OurTechPlanet
      @OurTechPlanet  2 роки тому

      Thanks Naeem, will work on those topics soon!

  • @sagarkuchekar5295
    @sagarkuchekar5295 Рік тому +1

    Hi, thanks for the explanation. Could you please explain why the DMRS channel is not mentioned in the uplink channel?

    • @OurTechPlanet
      @OurTechPlanet  Рік тому

      In the figure, the first symbol shows the UL DMRS

  • @vibes2011
    @vibes2011 Рік тому +1

    Hi ... clear and to the point ... great video indeed !!! ... couple of questions I have, if you can kindly have time to answer ... 1. What does the 1st symbol of the UL slot (dark blue symbol) in the picture stand for ? .... 2. For the RACH, is there any specific reserved number of RBs ?

    • @OurTechPlanet
      @OurTechPlanet  Рік тому

      Thanks. The first symbol indicates DMRS but their location can change based on the configuration. For RACH, it depends on the format as different formats take different number of RBs. Usually, it can range from 3 RBs to 12 RBs.

    • @vibes2011
      @vibes2011 Рік тому +1

      @@OurTechPlanet Thank you !!!!

  • @ramportland
    @ramportland 3 роки тому +2

    Thank you. This is an excellent video. One question, what is the column number 1 in the Uplink frame after SRS

    • @OurTechPlanet
      @OurTechPlanet  3 роки тому +4

      Thanks. The first column after SRS signifies the PUSCH DMRS.

  • @bherusinghranawat
    @bherusinghranawat Рік тому +1

    Your explanation very easy to grab the things in presentation. Thanks for this easygoing.
    I have questions like PSS , SSS and DMRS information will be transmitted via which channel.
    In 4:1 case tdd it’s clear if it’s 8:1 than we also follow the channel structure same in time
    And frequency domain…

    • @OurTechPlanet
      @OurTechPlanet  Рік тому

      PSS and SSS are the first channels that UE needs to read to synchronize so these are read by the UE directly. The DMRS configuration is shared in RRC messages and then UE can read it directly as well during PDSCH allocations
      For TDD ratios, the general structure and purpose of physical channels is still same.

  • @aaronshi1
    @aaronshi1 2 роки тому +2

    Thanks for sharing this. But per my understanding, the RE above or lower than PSS can't be used for PDSCH. It's empty. DMRS is also assigned to not only PBCH but also PDSCH, so UE can measure both SSB and PDSCH. Correct me if I am wrong. Thank you!

    • @OurTechPlanet
      @OurTechPlanet  2 роки тому +2

      PDSCH DMRS are there in the snapshot (grey ones) but the difference is that PDSCH DMRS are only present when there is a DL data allocation while SSB DMRS are always present. PDSCH REs around PSS are usually not used as you mentioned.

    • @amahbubul85
      @amahbubul85 Рік тому

      Don't see anything Grey!

  • @pouyanebrahimbabaie5811
    @pouyanebrahimbabaie5811 5 місяців тому +1

    By far best video on this topic! thank you very much!

    • @OurTechPlanet
      @OurTechPlanet  4 місяці тому +1

      Thanks a lot , great to hear that!

  • @muhammadarshadimam7460
    @muhammadarshadimam7460 3 роки тому +1

    One of the superb summarized way of some basic concepts descriptions

  • @dr.anthonyhu6497
    @dr.anthonyhu6497 3 роки тому +2

    This is useful information. There are so such talking about 5G and this is timely information for anyone. Thanks for sharing.

    • @OurTechPlanet
      @OurTechPlanet  3 роки тому

      Thanks Anthony! There is more on the way! :)

  • @hitendramalik3093
    @hitendramalik3093 Рік тому +1

    As usual you are owsome.Thanks.In this vedio 1st symbol you mentioned for PDCCH but i heard in 5G there is concept of Corset also for that place for PDCCH can vary and it will not occupied entire BW in frequency domain?Please correct me?

    • @OurTechPlanet
      @OurTechPlanet  Рік тому

      You are right, it is possible in NR that PDCCH might not take the whole 1st symbol but in all implementations (when this videi was published), the PDCCH still took the whole 1st symbol.

  • @mdtaufeeqahmed5058
    @mdtaufeeqahmed5058 3 роки тому +3

    Your explanation is very good and simple...but here I think you showed the LTE PDCCH instead of NR PDCCH as the NR PDCCH is not always in the first three symbols and also... PDCCH is not continuous throughout total bandwidth as in LTE... concept of CORESET, BWP, comes into picture here in NR... correct me if I am wrong... anyways keep sharing the content.. it's interesting to listen

    • @OurTechPlanet
      @OurTechPlanet  3 роки тому +1

      The PDCCH here means that the first symbol is occupied by PDCCH. Within that, it can follow the BWP concept if there are multiple BWPs and it will have coresets. But most common configuration is this where the first symbol is occupied by PDCCH only, provided there is no rate-matching! The concepts of coresets, BWPs, DCIs, Rate-Matching etc. will be covered in future sessions :)

    • @EXCELLENTSHOTSVLOGS
      @EXCELLENTSHOTSVLOGS 3 роки тому

      @@OurTechPlanet In LTE it is clear that the PDCCH occupies always the first symbols. but
      Are you sure that NR PDCCH always occupies starting first(1,or 2,or 3) symbols and can't take anywhere in the other symbols like (4,5..etc)?
      i have this doubt for long time

    • @OurTechPlanet
      @OurTechPlanet  3 роки тому +2

      @@EXCELLENTSHOTSVLOGS In most of the practical implementations, the PDCCH starts from the first symbol. However, the 3gpp parameter monitoringSymbolsWithinSlot under PDCCH Config does show all 14 symbols of the slot.

  • @arban100
    @arban100 Рік тому +1

    Good job. Please tell us how to calculate dl/ul throughput from this frame

    • @OurTechPlanet
      @OurTechPlanet  Рік тому

      Take a look at this session
      ua-cam.com/video/Jz5g5sIU81U/v-deo.html

  • @georgioskarouzos7418
    @georgioskarouzos7418 2 роки тому +1

    Very helpful! I would like to ask about the location of CSI-RS in the frame. Is it located in special slots(dl symbols) like SRS? Thank you

    • @OurTechPlanet
      @OurTechPlanet  2 роки тому

      No CSI-RS are usually located in normal slots.

  • @MrMJD81
    @MrMJD81 3 місяці тому

    The PDCCH in the picture is for LTE in 5G NR it occupy a portion or a totality of a CORESET that have no fix allocation

    • @OurTechPlanet
      @OurTechPlanet  22 дні тому

      The picture shows the implementation of PDCCH as when this was published, all implementations reserved first symbol for PDCCH. However, yes in NR it is based on coreset.

  • @AliMiro-x3l
    @AliMiro-x3l Рік тому +1

    For PDCCH 5G use new technology (CORESET) where unlike PDCCH unlike LTE doesnt aquire all the BW. But in you picture PDCCH “orange” is acquiring all the BW? Correct me please if im wrong

    • @OurTechPlanet
      @OurTechPlanet  Рік тому +1

      You are correct, 5G uses coreset and it is within BWP but the PDCCH can still span over the whole bandwidth. So, the figure is still correct but shows a particular scenario.

  • @Trek_RC_PlusPlus
    @Trek_RC_PlusPlus 2 роки тому +1

    It is not so clear what you mean (at 01:20) with "consider a RB or a group of RB"? I mean, if I consider the 3 RE of PSS, it means that I have 1 symbol on 3 subcarriers for each resource block? Or, in other words, every group of REs of different color are repated every 12 subcarriers (every RB)?
    Thanks for clarification

    • @OurTechPlanet
      @OurTechPlanet  2 роки тому +1

      Actually SSB spans over 4 symbols and 20RBs. Within the SSB, the PSS and SSS take around 128 REs but they block around 12 RBs.

  • @rajkumar-dt1fe
    @rajkumar-dt1fe 3 роки тому +1

    Excellent one. Hopefully expecting more videos from you. thank you

    • @OurTechPlanet
      @OurTechPlanet  3 роки тому +1

      Thanks Raj. Next one coming tomorrow! :)

  • @rafaelviegas7608
    @rafaelviegas7608 3 роки тому +1

    Congratulations on the video! Very well explained.

  • @georgioskarouzos7418
    @georgioskarouzos7418 2 роки тому +1

    What is the maximum number of symbols used for SRS ? More symbols for SRS means better channel estimation ? Thank you

    • @OurTechPlanet
      @OurTechPlanet  2 роки тому

      Mostly one or two symbols are used. SRS should be over the whole bandwidth so it is more of a frequency domain requirement rather than a time domain one.

  • @shivamshukla9692
    @shivamshukla9692 Рік тому +1

    Plz detailed us on Resource Block

  • @yernatsaduakas4168
    @yernatsaduakas4168 7 місяців тому

    What is dark blue REs?

    • @OurTechPlanet
      @OurTechPlanet  6 місяців тому

      You mean in the downlink frame? That is PDSCH.
      In uplink, the dark blue ones are DMRS

  • @avinashmvenugopalan5772
    @avinashmvenugopalan5772 3 роки тому +1

    Hi is there any difference in frame structure of FDD and Tdd in 5G.Pic u explained is of TDD R8?

    • @OurTechPlanet
      @OurTechPlanet  3 роки тому +2

      Yes, this is the explanation for TDD. For FDD, you will have Downlink and Uplink on separate frequencies so there is no special subframe requirement.

  • @allenyang201
    @allenyang201 2 роки тому +1

    Is the frame in the video the interaction between one base station and one UE? What if the base station interacts with multiple UEs?

    • @OurTechPlanet
      @OurTechPlanet  2 роки тому

      yes, it can be a single UE. If there are two UEs then the resources will be distributed among them. For instance UE1 might get the upper half of the band while UE2 might get the lower half of the band

  • @deepdhiman1944
    @deepdhiman1944 3 роки тому +1

    Great one Ali.. 5G concepts made easy... please continue sharing more videos

    • @OurTechPlanet
      @OurTechPlanet  3 роки тому

      Thanks Deep, it is great to hear from you :)

  • @georgioskarouzos7418
    @georgioskarouzos7418 25 днів тому

    Is a Ue informed about the PDCCH configuration (one, two or three symbols, aggregation level) by decoding MIB ? Thank you

    • @OurTechPlanet
      @OurTechPlanet  22 дні тому

      The monitoringSymbolsWithinSlot IE gives this information.

  • @anuj204
    @anuj204 3 роки тому +1

    Awesome explanation, thanks for sharing 🙏

  • @arehmancuw
    @arehmancuw 2 роки тому +1

    Great explanation ! LOVED it

  • @dhananjaycse06
    @dhananjaycse06 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks you for sharing knowledge 🙏

  • @naturelearning8416
    @naturelearning8416 2 роки тому +1

    amazing explanation but please need some more detail on the basis of timeslot

  • @RodrigoKenjiYalyAoki-c6j
    @RodrigoKenjiYalyAoki-c6j 10 місяців тому

    Congratulations. Perfect explanation.

  • @hamidrezasaneh-px4nw
    @hamidrezasaneh-px4nw 10 місяців тому

    Dear khalid, pleese share pdf or powerpoint file of your youtube videos. Thanks for your excellent trainings.

    • @OurTechPlanet
      @OurTechPlanet  10 місяців тому

      Unfortunately, we do not share the slides. Thanks for understanding.

  • @nassermoharraq3464
    @nassermoharraq3464 Рік тому +1

    Many thanks and appreciated dear

  • @mayankchandla1502
    @mayankchandla1502 2 роки тому +1

    Good explanation. Thanks

  • @mudassarhayat4616
    @mudassarhayat4616 3 роки тому

    Excellent. Precisely explained

  • @susantakumargorai5190
    @susantakumargorai5190 2 роки тому +1

    LTE uses only dl earfcn but 5G uses dl nr arfcn & sub nr arfcn . Pls explain

    • @OurTechPlanet
      @OurTechPlanet  2 роки тому

      Basically, in LTE we only talk about center frequency as the LTE SSS/PSS are always on the center frequency. But in NR, the SSS/PSS can be anywhere in the band so we have a difference between center frequency and PSS/SSS frequency

  • @arehmancuw
    @arehmancuw 2 роки тому

    Can you please share beam forming and massive MIMO concepts in 5G

    • @OurTechPlanet
      @OurTechPlanet  2 роки тому

      Here it is, 5G Massive MIMO Made Simple
      ua-cam.com/video/EDcfkegcIHs/v-deo.html

  • @allenyang201
    @allenyang201 2 роки тому +2

    Does each slot contain more than one SSB,I observed more than one SSB in one slot in the video

    • @OurTechPlanet
      @OurTechPlanet  2 роки тому

      It depends on implementation. In some implementations, one slot only has one SSB while in another implementation, a slot can have 2 SSBs as well.

    • @allenyang201
      @allenyang201 2 роки тому +1

      @@OurTechPlanet Is the interaction between base station (BS) and UE based on frames (10ms)? For example, BS fills up a frame and sends it to ue. However, I read other books saying that MAC is scheduled according to slot. Then why the interaction is frame, but the content of scheduling is slot, sorry, I am a beginner and can't understand the relationship between the two.

    • @OurTechPlanet
      @OurTechPlanet  2 роки тому +1

      @@allenyang201 The structure here is shown as a frame but a UE is scheduled per slot. So, your understanding is correct that the BS will fill up a slot and send it to the UE and then fill up the next slot and send it to the UE again and so on

  • @basakcan3901
    @basakcan3901 8 місяців тому +1

    Thank you! 😊

  • @WalterNwuko
    @WalterNwuko 2 роки тому +1

    Superb break down 👍

  • @varun284
    @varun284 Рік тому +1

    Good work

  • @iulhaq1
    @iulhaq1 3 роки тому +1

    Very well explained 👏

  • @ravikiran412
    @ravikiran412 2 роки тому +1

    Good explanation.

  • @saulatabbas7463
    @saulatabbas7463 Рік тому +1

    Zindabad Ustaad!

  • @claretantony434
    @claretantony434 2 роки тому +1

    Very Nice Video.

  • @amahbubul85
    @amahbubul85 Рік тому +1

    Is it a TDD frame?

  • @gowthamkumars365
    @gowthamkumars365 2 роки тому

    Thank you sir.. It is a great video

  • @kamalibrahim1796
    @kamalibrahim1796 3 роки тому +1

    Easy and simple🥰

  • @mohammadraheel1373
    @mohammadraheel1373 3 роки тому +1

    oh you start video as well great help

    • @OurTechPlanet
      @OurTechPlanet  3 роки тому

      Yeah we did. Great to know that it is helpful :)

  • @satorlinguaze
    @satorlinguaze 4 місяці тому

    Yes!

  • @千里之行-z5r
    @千里之行-z5r 3 місяці тому

    thank you sir

  • @xreghmdssw
    @xreghmdssw 6 місяців тому

    awesome

  • @arjunmenonkandanat6328
    @arjunmenonkandanat6328 3 місяці тому

    WHERE IS CSI-RS?

    • @OurTechPlanet
      @OurTechPlanet  22 дні тому

      CSI-RS are not explained. I discussed about CSI-RS in the Massive MIMO video and the SINR video.

  • @allenyang201
    @allenyang201 2 роки тому +1

    genius!