World of Tanks - ARL V39 Tier 6 Tank Destroyer - Come Back Jagdpanzer IV, All Is Forgiven!

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  • @Roskow
    @Roskow 10 років тому +46

    It isnt based on the ARL 44, but on the BDR G1B

  • @chrisgibson3251
    @chrisgibson3251 9 років тому +147

    the great signal range is due to the fact that if they want to surrender most of everyone will hear them

  • @ProjectFlashlight612
    @ProjectFlashlight612 10 років тому +7

    I think it was useful sociopath George S Patton who said "French tanks have six-speed gearboxes, five of which are Reverse."

  • @hilmansudirman9857
    @hilmansudirman9857 4 роки тому +8

    It's been 8 F-ing years, and WG still did nothing about this abomination. Seriously, I've no luxury at that time to skip it. And I've to endure the horrific grinding 5 years ago. Damn this thing.

  • @vahlen5281
    @vahlen5281 9 років тому +38

    I still do not get what most people have against the Jagdpanzer 4. It is fast, it is stealthy, has relatively good armor, a nice amount of hp and the L70 is awesome. It may lack the brute force of the SU-100 (which is kind of imbalanced in my opinion), but it is definitely a tank you can work with. The ARL V39 on the other hand, uh...

    • @adamsoldier9898
      @adamsoldier9898 9 років тому

      im using jagdpanzer iv and in all batlles i damage enemy 1000+

    • @patrickramosofmanila
      @patrickramosofmanila 9 років тому

      I feel like the heavily armored Hetzer in the Jagdpanzer IV. Its such a stealthy tank.

    • @adamsoldier9898
      @adamsoldier9898 9 років тому

      Jagdpanzer IV is son of E25 :DDDD

    • @bertus3710
      @bertus3710 9 років тому

      Adam Soldier Yep, but when you get to the Jagdpanther, its kinda bad with that L70 gun, 133 pen at tier 7 is not good.....

    • @vahlen5281
      @vahlen5281 9 років тому

      kakhoofd 75 The L70 has 150mm.

  • @thattankguy8165
    @thattankguy8165 3 роки тому +2

    Thanks UA-cam for giving me this old goldie in 2021! this is alot of memories!

  • @OrangeAmped
    @OrangeAmped 10 років тому +15

    I almost never have good games on Serene Coast either- funny some some maps are just bad, even if it doesn't seem like there's a particularly good reason.

  • @The_MightyJingles
    @The_MightyJingles  12 років тому +2

    Yes, it's an absolutely horrible grind but once you get to tier 7 the French TDs start getting good. And I mean really good.

  • @lucianwilliams6838
    @lucianwilliams6838 11 років тому +12

    It's not the ARL 44, Jingles, it's the BDR. Just look at the hulls? Do they look the same to you? Jingles Derp moment (tm)

  • @FrozenKing142
    @FrozenKing142 7 років тому +4

    i remember once going vs this tank when i just started playing.Only saw the turret and i was like you fool why are you not looking at me.i had 5 hp and died i was like how in the name of god you killed me than i saw the gun

  • @Anlushac11
    @Anlushac11 8 років тому +2

    Finally got Ace tanker and High caliber in ARL V39. Promptly sold it. Will never run that vehicle again. Crew is recovering nicely in therapy. Loved S35 CA and Love Jagdpanzer IV. And I did carry a fair amount of gold for higher tier opponents.

  • @kowalskihun1252
    @kowalskihun1252 8 років тому +7

    It has BDR's armour,not ARL v44.

  • @131313PPP
    @131313PPP 11 років тому +13

    The JagdPanzer IV may be bad, but still, I don't know why, I just love it! I still have it and I won't sell it at any cost. :)

  • @Daddyo145
    @Daddyo145 9 років тому

    I love watching videos from the days before physics in World of Tanks. It's hilarious seeing tanks bobbling around on little rocks on the ground.

  • @Sonsyx
    @Sonsyx 10 років тому +6

    isnt the hull of the tank from the bdr g1b?

  • @onehopeofthedoomed
    @onehopeofthedoomed 11 років тому

    The funny thing about all French tanks in the game is that they are either VERY prewar as the design is on this (which explains the armour) or they are post war tanks. The idea with this was to use the same system of aiming as was used for the 75mm in the Char B-1bis (which had 0 gun traverse), liquid hydrolics in the suspension to move the whole tank one degree at a time to aim the gun

  • @The_MightyJingles
    @The_MightyJingles  11 років тому

    It's certainly possible. The gun has enough penetration to go through with a decent penetration roll, but most shots will bounce if angled and they don't hit weakspots.

  • @lucianwilliams6838
    @lucianwilliams6838 11 років тому

    "It doesn't excel in any one area" You said the same about the Pershing and liked it...

  • @The_MightyJingles
    @The_MightyJingles  12 років тому

    Bubble burst denied. Bubble was burst at least three times by previous commenters months ago. Well spotted anyway.

  • @Tomricochet
    @Tomricochet 11 років тому

    NO it has the bdr1's hull, " Being based on the BDR G1B heavy tank, the ARL V39 is a very large tank destroyer" it is a prototype, also a very early ARL serie, which was obv the BDR...

  • @medwinhsu3835
    @medwinhsu3835 9 років тому

    The Wargaming video on french TD says this is a really good tank. It perfectly embodies the best of french TD.

  • @Melancholiccube
    @Melancholiccube 9 років тому +8

    I don't think it's a modified ARL 44's hull... Looks more like a BDR G1 B's hull, except a tad longer I think.

  • @austinduong-van6071
    @austinduong-van6071 9 років тому +12

    It's based of the BDR G1B. See the oval shape? Apparently, you don't...

    • @Royquah
      @Royquah 9 років тому

      Austin Duong-Van then why the name ARL?

    • @vidame9537
      @vidame9537 9 років тому +9

      Roy Quah It's the name of the company. BDR is the company that developed the G1 B variant. ARL then took the chassis and modified it so it could be used as an assault gun.

    • @Commander1keller
      @Commander1keller 8 років тому +2

      +Roy Quah Because that's how the French designated their tanks. For example, he SU-85 is based on the chassis of the T-34. The fact that it has the prefix "SU" doesn't mean that it's based on the chassis of the SU-5.

    • @terjesnyder5775
      @terjesnyder5775 8 років тому

      Technically the chassis of the ARL's are based off of the Char B1

    • @vidame9537
      @vidame9537 8 років тому

      Shrektackular That's true. Few people actually care to recognize it since the G1 B is so much more obviously related to the V39. Despite the fact that the G1 B and the V39 are more mechanically related, it's more correct to say that they were both derived from the B1 rather than one from the other, as the G1 B never really got past the design stage and was itself based heavily on the B1. It is, however, important to remember that ARL did have a part in the initial design of the G1 B, and therefore it would make sense that they would try to base their project off of it. It's a bit complicated, but basically you're right.

  • @spongya77
    @spongya77 11 років тому

    Thanks for the answer. I think I'll stop at tier 5 with them... (By the way, watching your videos is greatly therapeutic. Whenever I see lemmings rushing in the valley in Lakeville to be slaughtered, I hear you rant and it makes it better for me too...)

  • @AJasonNorthrup
    @AJasonNorthrup 7 років тому

    wikipedia says the ARL 40 project (of which this is a prototype) used parts from char B's, not ARL 44's. ARL 44 came later (developed starting '44) (also using parts from char B's). its weight in game compared to B1 must be due to its ammo load (actually B1 IRL was about the same weight)

  • @yangwenli4878
    @yangwenli4878 11 років тому

    It hits top speed quite well. The thing that can wreck it for many is the useless stock suspension which forces you to use a tier 3 gun.

  • @corey1054
    @corey1054 8 років тому +19

    Am I the only one who LOVES the Jagtpanzer IV?

    • @sniperrnc1293
      @sniperrnc1293 8 років тому +3

      Yes.

    • @corey1054
      @corey1054 8 років тому +2

      As far as I can see Jagtpanzer IV haters seem to get angry when they try to shoot at targets that they know their gun cant damage. 133mm of penetration is perfectly fine at Tier VI and 200 damage at Tier VI is really good for a gun with a reload time of under 6 seconds.

    • @sniperrnc1293
      @sniperrnc1293 8 років тому +3

      +COREY MCRANN 133mm in of pen at tier 6 is godawful

    • @corey1054
      @corey1054 8 років тому +2

      +SniperRNC Funny how I managed just fine with 133mm without firing a shot of AP. The fact that the pen is just 133 though shows wargamings bias against the germans since the KwK 36s actual armor penetration was 150mm at 250 meters and 133 at One kilometer.

    • @milosmarinkovic667
      @milosmarinkovic667 8 років тому

      Thats the best gun,when u start u have 110 damage with 110 penetration on the frist gun

  • @Netugi
    @Netugi 9 років тому

    I dunno why people hate the ARL V39 so much, I think it's pretty nice. The machine gun turret isn't an issue very often with the way I play my ARL, and its 105mm is quite nice. Good damage, aim time, mobility, camo, very nice all-round for the most part.

  • @AlekTrev006
    @AlekTrev006 11 років тому

    Bah ! You're the Mighty friggin' Jingles ! History adjusts ITSELF to YOUR commentary ! We love you Jingles ! Seriously - I'm always singing your praises on the NA forums and you have quite a following there. Keep making your great "Garage Reviews" as they are the greatest of their sort on UA-cam, and highly entertaining.
    PS - for sheer lols, you might consider doing a one-off review for the AMX-40, my personal vote for worst tank in the game (even worse then the dreaded Lee). :-)

  • @RedRocky54
    @RedRocky54 11 років тому

    The AMX 40 is great. I had a 75% crew and loved it. While it does have a very underpowered engine, that seems to be it's only real downside, because the armor is amazing, the gun is good, and the weak spots are somewhat hard to hit. I went into the AMX 40 expecting the worst tank in the world, and came out loving it. And then of course if you find youself at the top of a hill, you can prepare yourself for 50kph. With a push, the speed problem is gone. All in all, it can be a great tank.

  • @Slakrrrrrr
    @Slakrrrrrr 12 років тому

    you might know this already, but the new soviet tier 8 TD is the SU-122-44, based off of the T-44.

  • @meyyoming
    @meyyoming 11 років тому

    dont worry, all the other TD after it are OP. The tier 7 has the same guns as the tier 6, but believe me, it works a hell of a lot better. That is cause the tier 7 has pretty good armor and can turn the turret a lot more which fixes abasically almost all the problems of the arl v39. Then the tier 8,9,10 are all autoloading TD making them the best high tier TD in the game

  • @The_MightyJingles
    @The_MightyJingles  12 років тому

    I would, but it's one I don't have and I've got a big "To do" list.

  • @TheJason434
    @TheJason434 11 років тому

    I cannot believe you said that signal range doesn't matter! Having a low signal range means that you will be unable to shoot at targets at long distances (which is what TDs are supposed to do) and will also have less targets to shoot at

  • @laptopgladiator4078
    @laptopgladiator4078 9 років тому +2

    Is it weird that I absolutely love my jagd panzer IV/4

  • @cannibalsausage5767
    @cannibalsausage5767 8 років тому

    I think this is the best TD in the game. I love that 90mm gun.

    • @CIAKilledMLK
      @CIAKilledMLK 8 років тому

      Same 300 damage and 165 Penn that can penne pretty much all tanks up to tier 8 and can take out half a tanks health and I don't mind the 9 sec reload

  • @nathanhubball
    @nathanhubball 2 роки тому

    If you're just starting the ARL grind (I personally love it lol) equip the enhanced suspension equipment so that the load capacity's increased and you can equip a better gun from the off

  • @The_MightyJingles
    @The_MightyJingles  11 років тому

    You're right, and I was spectacularly and very very publicly wrong. ;)

  • @GameplayCenterInc
    @GameplayCenterInc 10 років тому +3

    It's not a bad machine... There's just nothing good about it

  • @granit88
    @granit88 10 років тому

    The At-8 wasn't out when Jingles recorded this.

  • @emperror85
    @emperror85 11 років тому

    Bought Churchill GC this weekend on the sale... It's so mind-boggling bad that I kind of miss my ARL V39!

  • @The_MightyJingles
    @The_MightyJingles  12 років тому

    The French tier 7 TD, though, is epic! That Mle.1946 even with the DCA45 90mm gun is a great machine. It plays like the T25/2. With the 100mm SA47 gun it's like a Jagdpanther. The only problem is you have to grind through this piece of crap first. I couldn't take any more, skipped the last 30k with free xp.

  • @stefannilsson9701
    @stefannilsson9701 9 років тому

    you know... you can stil use the gun from the Stug III G on the Jg panzer IV witch can penetrate tier 6 tanks and almost all tier 7 tanks with gold

  • @delgado290690
    @delgado290690 11 років тому

    The D.Max always seemed like an OP version of the Marder(mainly cause it has it as its base) for me. As for the SU100Y, it was like shooting a bunker on tracks, the cause of much frustration to me.....well shooting with the 75mmL100 Panther gun.....THE DIRTY HARRY CANNON
    Thank you for answering on such short notice, Mr Jingles
    A quick question: your profile picture looks like it came from WoW, is that true or am i drunk Oo ?

  • @AJasonNorthrup
    @AJasonNorthrup 7 років тому

    an unlikely scenario: you grind the top gun on the v39 to unlock it for the ARL 44.

  • @TheJBftw
    @TheJBftw 8 років тому

    Its better to say ''with a Hurricane pushing your back'' than a Tailwind :D

  • @panzerelite2540
    @panzerelite2540 7 років тому

    I'm grinding through this tank on the Xbox One and I can't wait to sell it. It's such a blemish in my tank collection. I finally got the 105 so it's not as bad as it was, but it's still terrible.

  • @emperror85
    @emperror85 11 років тому

    I just bought this abomination. Very(!) surprisingly, I've won my first 4 out of 5 matches, AND I've been one of the top 3 players in all five game! I play it as a long range sniper, and that seems to work well.
    I should mention though that I have died in all games after being spotted around mid game. =P

  • @The_MightyJingles
    @The_MightyJingles  11 років тому

    It is none other than The Mighty Jingles himself, gnome warlock, evil genius and arms dealer to the rich and famous.

  • @The_MightyJingles
    @The_MightyJingles  12 років тому

    It's on the "to do" list.

  • @The_MightyJingles
    @The_MightyJingles  12 років тому

    Wunderbar!

  • @mailevinh
    @mailevinh 12 років тому

    I also use my V39 to snipe at long range. It's very effective with 90mm gun.

  • @MementoMihi.
    @MementoMihi. 10 років тому

    I can play all TDs pretty good, but when I play my JagdPanzer IV I should be feared.

  • @OneWorldHistory
    @OneWorldHistory 10 років тому

    'Hate' is too kind a word..... the only way this thing has a chance is to find the farthest away place you can (hiding is secondary) and use telescope to pop things.

  • @Swanen90
    @Swanen90 11 років тому

    The T34 is an tier 7 or 8 Heavy US tank i think, or a premium tier 7 or 8 Heavy. The famous Russian T-34 medium is a tier 5

  • @7000_Skeletons
    @7000_Skeletons 11 років тому

    I wasn't saying that it's better because it's a light tank, I'm explaining the reason why it would get a tier 3 gun.

  • @shiboutrol
    @shiboutrol 9 років тому

    I loved the ARL V39 I got pretty good games in it, as long as you snipe with the excellent gun!

  • @dos668
    @dos668 12 років тому

    Such an awesome comment: This and the great wall of china are the only 2 things astronauts can see from space. Made me LOL! I just unlocked the V39, and I do have the money, and i do have enough free XP to get the tracks..but..should i just ditch the line? Is it worth getting through this tank?

  • @Ravenblade86
    @Ravenblade86 11 років тому

    Just picked the v39 up at the weekend and took your advice to use free xp to unlock the tracks and engine so I could stick the 105 gun on straight away. First game, seven kills! I thought you said this thing was rubbish Jingles? :p
    Had 5 kills in fourth game as well, though in that one the lack of gun traverse and aiming time did give me a few issues. So far though? I'm having fun with it, not sure it's as bad really.

  • @Joe-kx6hn
    @Joe-kx6hn 7 років тому

    Jingles, love your stuff by far my fav UA-camr. I am trying to grind through this to get to the better tier 7s and in this older review you said to use the 105mm. However, they buffed the top 90mm to have better aim and disp scores of 2.1 and .36 compaired to the 2.3 and .39 of the 105mm... so would you say now to use the top 90mm?

  • @RedRocky54
    @RedRocky54 11 років тому

    "This tank is horrible in close-range fights."
    *Proceeds to get top gun*

  • @delgado290690
    @delgado290690 11 років тому

    If i may MightyJingles, I think most T6 TDs are well average or below, ARL39 is one, JagdPanzerIV another. Havent gotten to the SU100 yet, im guessing that one is an exception. That and the Hellcat, but this one has great mobility and a turret so its cheating XD.
    Out of all the T6 TDs which is the best overall in your opinion: firepower, mobility, armor?

  • @AgentTasmania
    @AgentTasmania 9 років тому

    Maybe if you hate the aim time so much, don't use the DCA 45.
    I use the 105mm gun with a quicker aim time and I don't mind the V39.

  • @lucianwilliams6838
    @lucianwilliams6838 11 років тому

    based on the chassis of the ARL 44? Check again. It's actually the BDR G1 B chassis.

  • @jaraillful
    @jaraillful 11 років тому

    jingles is so low but idc its very very entertaining

  • @BlueDeathRay
    @BlueDeathRay 11 років тому

    I see what you're saying, but I think that it's inexcusable for a tier 7 tank to ever be equipped with a tier 3 tank gun.

  • @willarchey8339
    @willarchey8339 11 років тому

    I realy don't know why but I actualy have fallen in love with this tank im use to French tanks low armor so I play the sniper locations iv figured out its mm is not bad an even if it des get tier 8 matches all you have to do is know where to hit and and let random number generators do the rest

  • @Josphirat
    @Josphirat 9 років тому

    ARL V39s DCA45 got buffed aim time to 2,6 s(-0,3s) and CGCs 32 pounder aim time got buffed to 2,1 s(-0.8s).

  • @Bagheera2
    @Bagheera2 11 років тому

    Dude thanks a LOT for your videos, you have NO idea how much these have helped my grind on shitty tanks, My arl has nearly rolled top guns on good games each time i play now thanks to your tips!
    Is there ANY way You could toss one up on the Jagtiger 8.8?

  • @unjogratis936
    @unjogratis936 8 років тому +1

    they buffed the 90mil's aiming time to 2.6

  • @rubendejesus5499
    @rubendejesus5499 11 років тому

    The only reason Ive kept the V39 is because of you Jingles, Ive wanted the pain to stop for a while now lol

  • @iR_F
    @iR_F 12 років тому

    Then I think the OBJ is the best TD, its fast, has good slope, has AWESOME gun

  • @gandalfwiz20007
    @gandalfwiz20007 2 роки тому +1

    WOT was so primitive and fun back then 😅

  • @RedSkeletonGhost
    @RedSkeletonGhost 12 років тому

    The ARL V39 isn't based on the chassis of the ARL 44, Just because They are both ARL doesn't mean they have the same chassis. ARL was the short form of the conpany who made them both. To me it looks more like its based on the BDR G1B, But at the same time its shape is a bit different. If you get the ARL 44 and compare them both. They are about 100% Different. Thats why it doesn't have that armor. Another problem about the ARL V39. Its Engine is very vaunrable and gets knocked out easily.

  • @Mjolonir12
    @Mjolonir12 11 років тому

    Good thing I bought this before watching this video. I am regretting it after watching this and playing a few matches.

  • @lucianwilliams6838
    @lucianwilliams6838 11 років тому

    The stock gun of the SRL V39 went into service in 1897?! REALLY?!

  • @mateuszdluzniewski2614
    @mateuszdluzniewski2614 11 років тому

    I really like this tank. I regulary get the best XP in the team and I even get 3000+ damage done in battles. It really is a rather good tank.

  • @pellesophus2656
    @pellesophus2656 11 років тому

    i like the jingels

  • @LeodiAstoriaXIII
    @LeodiAstoriaXIII 11 років тому

    I'm having nightmares at night after playing 25 games in this tank...

  • @eskon12345
    @eskon12345 11 років тому

    It seems that French td line has 2 absolute horrid grinds
    Somua
    Arl V39

  • @Bagheera2
    @Bagheera2 11 років тому

    really on ALL my tanks man, you have mad me a much better tanker! :D

  • @falley11
    @falley11 12 років тому

    I've already decided I'm going to skip trough the Sau-40 and the S-35CA, now also the ARL V39. Please say the Air Conditioner Mle. 46 is any good so I won't have to make the list longer...

  • @monkeysir35
    @monkeysir35 12 років тому

    When will you review the rest of the French TD's?

  • @meyyoming
    @meyyoming 11 років тому

    i know why they made the french TD line have lots of beggining bad tanks. I mean, think about it, we dont want a thousand noobs playing the best tier 10 TD in the game. The tier 2, 3(kinda), 4, and 6 are just to make sure no noobs get their hands on that awesome tier 10 autoloading TD

  • @fazakerleypatterson6258
    @fazakerleypatterson6258 11 років тому

    Mighty Jingles, can you do a re-review of the ARL V39. A lot has changed after patch 8.5

  • @IrishLegendGamingofficial
    @IrishLegendGamingofficial 9 років тому

    I like the v36... Well killing stock ones with an elite chaffee....

  • @LennieThePolarBear
    @LennieThePolarBear 10 років тому

    I find that the IS3 gets ammo racked far too easily, and it is necessary to use a wet ammo rack on the tank.

    • @LaatiMafia
      @LaatiMafia 10 років тому

      Wait till you get the IS-7...
      Never EVER go in a battle without WaR and SS.

  • @MT-rh3bq
    @MT-rh3bq 8 років тому

    after getting the tracks,its not that bad honestly. I unlocked both 105 and 90 so the grind was negligible. idk maybe they buffed it but the aim time on 105 isn't bad,and the accuracy is meh.not horrible but not good.165 pen isn't bad at tier 6and the top guns pen is 212,which trumps all other tier 6 tds top guns.

    • @CIAKilledMLK
      @CIAKilledMLK 8 років тому

      FINNALLY a person who understands

  • @starwars601
    @starwars601 11 років тому

    The hull of the arl v39 is the bdrg1b not arl44

  • @ImmanisYT
    @ImmanisYT 8 років тому +7

    Lol it has a turrent pointing backwards in case it retreats

  • @TheSwedishGamerstsg
    @TheSwedishGamerstsg 10 років тому +1

    Holy shit thats a BIG Gun

    • @rubberwoody
      @rubberwoody 10 років тому

      aint got shit on the t92 or the Rhein metall borsig

    • @StarDestroyer
      @StarDestroyer 10 років тому +1

      rubberwoody none of these existed back then

    • @rubberwoody
      @rubberwoody 10 років тому +1

      ***** but when he commented they did

    • @TheSwedishGamerstsg
      @TheSwedishGamerstsg 10 років тому

      Me

  • @The_MightyJingles
    @The_MightyJingles  12 років тому

    Holy shit, that was an epic match! I'm definitely using that one. :)

  • @muddigger4278
    @muddigger4278 11 років тому

    your awesome jingles

  • @rabbani3094
    @rabbani3094 5 років тому

    Yeap the dca 30 on the arl44 has bad aim time and accuracy. Bearable at tiver 5 but outstayed its welcome at tier 6.

  • @MrMrcigar
    @MrMrcigar 11 років тому

    Jingles, The other day i was playing in my T34 Heavy and i penned a Maus and did damage. He says it wasn't possible. I need your expertise.

  • @FRAWSTYFOX
    @FRAWSTYFOX 12 років тому

    the 105 on this tank look a whole lot to me stat wise like the 105 on the dmax.

  • @MrAktilos
    @MrAktilos 11 років тому

    Isnt this thing based of the BDR, looking at the form of that chassis.

  • @sapphic_vomit
    @sapphic_vomit 10 років тому +3

    The V39 was abhorrent for me. The traverse was disastrously bad.

    • @johannesvahlkvist
      @johannesvahlkvist 10 років тому

      take an SU 100, give it -20% to all stats and give it a better radio. thats the ARL V39

    • @marsweiss255
      @marsweiss255 10 років тому

      It also has a tumor on the roof. I hate cupolas :

    • @sapphic_vomit
      @sapphic_vomit 10 років тому

      The tumor turret is pretty much irrelevant since you can penetrate this thing with literally anything.

    • @johannesvahlkvist
      @johannesvahlkvist 10 років тому

      Maya Dent yes, but the tumor is so big that they can see it and shoto it before you can shoot back

  • @federico339
    @federico339 8 років тому +1

    Russian TD Line:
    SU-100 > SU100 M1 > SU 101 > SU 122-54 > Object 263

  • @sniperquasi
    @sniperquasi 11 років тому

    christ look how long the gun is, it looks positively alien.