Detailed guide to installing the internet in your garden room
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- Опубліковано 1 жов 2024
- We have had loads of requests to do this video, I hope my camera work does not take away from the fact John delivers a near perfect install of the customers internet to the garden room.
Liam & John, a couple of tips. Maximum cable length for CAT6 running Ethernet protocol is 100 metres. For the future you might want to upgrade to CAT 7. WIth regard termination of the CAT 6, the twist in the four pairs of cables is very important. It is very integral to the bandwidth capability of the cable. When terminating the cable, especially into a punch-down termination block, keep the cables a short as possible and as much as practical maintain the twist right up to point of termination. The companies who developed these cables invested billions in making cables handle huge bandwidth within an unshielded cable and most of this investment is all centred around the twist. Finally, and I might be wrong here, in the video where John is terminating a black CAT 6 into a RJ45 end. It looks to me the black insulation of the cable is not pushed deep enough into the RJ45 end. The end of the RJ45 end should have a compressible strain relief tab which is forced and locked down onto the outer jacket of the cable. Then if the cable is snagged, the strain is taken by the lockable tab and not by the electrical blades at the end of the plug. Last word. just for info, the word Ethernet describes the protocol that is used for moving data down the cable. It does not describe the cable or the plugs on the end. In the original roll out of Ethernet, coax cable was used to transfer the data that used the Ethernet protocol. Love your videos, please keep them coming. Probably the best DIY videos on UA-cam.
Cat7 is an utter waste of time and is sold to the gullible who know no better. Further Cat7 and Cat8 require special CG45 or Tera connectors and sockets, which if you are not using (which you won't be) make matters worse over Cat6a. There is no IEEE 802.3 standard thing that requires anything more than Cat6a. Ok there is a standard for using Cat8 at 40Gbps which is limited to 30m, is for point-to-point patch leads in datacentre only and there is *zero* equipment you can purchase to use it and likely never will. Basically, nothing is ever likely to need anything more than Cat6a which is good for 10Gbps at 100m, and anything more is going to be DAC cables point to point over short distances or fibre.
For future proofing I would use Cat6A, as multi gigabit connections are already available. Cat7 is a bit of a joke and needs different connectors (GG45).
Boring fact; The term "Ethernet" was first used in 1973, the name referring to the “luminiferous ether” believed by nineteenth-century physicists to be a passive medium between the Sun and Earth, which allows electromagnetic waves to propagate everywhere.
Everything you showed was good but, pro tip put a socket at both ends, not a connector on the router end. 2 reasons, firstly its a lot less fiddly but also more importantly it is more reliable. Connectors on solid core cables will work lose as you move the router about, also it is easier if you change how/where the router is located. Just use a little pre terminated patch cable to connect the router.
Would you recommend installing two rj45 modules either end and put a fly lead into modem?
Hello John, the industry standard for cable run is 95 meters but I have cable runs of 130 meters with no problems. Also, you can get toolless sockets/modules at the garden room end now. Happy networking. Keep the videos coming Liam.
Thanks mate might try those
Sorry but, that was painful to watch.
1. Solid core network cable bent 180 degrees is not best practice. (weakens it and will have issues later)
2. The wires needed to go further in so the outer black sleeve can be crimped also. (cable restraint)
3. So happy you are using the B standard.
4. The longer you leave the cables you introduce cross talk and intermittent connections. (using Cat. 6 cable up to 55m will allow 10Gb connection for future proofing)
5. The tail on the RJ45 is to create a better connection for the contacts for better connectivity.
6. Hard wire backhaul is far better than wifi mesh as every jump to each node will half the connection speed.
7. step by step guide was great for novices.
Get a grip mate, it’s not a network in a busy office, it’s a garden room and providing the same speed as the house, you know there’s more than the missionary position, right?
@@thegardenroomguru So the helpful hints for professionalism went right over your head, I know where I stand now thank you for that.
@@thegardenroomguru 🤣
Always one
@@SimonLally1975 think you lost sight of it before you commented. Don’t try belittle us. John clearly states he’s no tech pro, but let’s put things straight. He’s knows more about more things than most ewill know. You know and I know, what he’s saying is down to earth, absolutely correct, it’s a bloody garden room, not nasa
Liam, one of your best videos to date.I always wondered how to get internet to my workshop and you, John and Jen explained it better and more clearly than anyone. Well done.
Those tools and the rj45 open ended plugs are so good i know because last year before even watching these videos i ran cat 7 wire from my router through my internal walls to my 2 children's bedrooms to give them a solid connection i bought a 50m roll and still have tons left i made loads of small Ethernet wires for the pc's/consoles and laptops my kids have never been happy no drop outs only difference for me was i used a face plate next to the router and a face plate in there bedrooms at a total cost for all the bits of around £75-£85 it would have cost me £100s to get some one in and i saved a fortune and learned a new skill its actually easier then it looks too , i have been watching a lot of your videos for tips as i am building a 3x4m Shed (man cave Shhhh dont tell the wife) and i wont be building to your standards but i wont be far off all in costing me around £2000 including a rubber roof which after watching you guys i have the confidence to do, and i am considering running an Ethernet cable down to the shed (man cave lol) this is something any one in this day and age could do with learning and this video is spot on, if you use cat7 though and cat7 rj45's make sure you earth the cable at the connector ends in other words the silver foil you tuck under the metal climp bit on the rj45 or the machine tester (G) errors i found this out the hard way lol.
great vid and i know its old now but which router do you install now,thanks
I dont wanna be rude but the cat 6 cable needs pushing in the plug past the built in cable clamp before being crimped, that plastic lug pushes into the outer of the cable and helps stop it from pulling out. The rubber boot (if you can class it as rubber) is there to help with strain relief and stop the cable from breaking which happens pretty easy with solid core wire, could be why i was always told to use stranded wire for fitting plugs to. If your only using the cable for an internet connection you only need two pairs so you could split the cable and get two runs out of it (switch and wireless access point etc) or if the cable was damaged it maybe possible to just swap them over depending on how many are damaged (blue, blue/white, Brown and Brown white not used). i believe for running things like HD video all 4 pairs are used.
when you were trying to scan the QR code i was wanting to shout its upside down
Having to long of a cable can result in slower home network speeds for example when transferring a video from one computer to another, badly made connections and poor quality cable can also effect it. when using a internet speed tester like speedtest.net your testing the internet coming into your house and not your home network, to test your home network you would need to ping another computer on that network and look at the results then.
Another awesome video Liam, really informative & entertaining as usual! I don't usually comment much, but what you said in your previous video really got to me mate. F**k the haters man, you, John & the whole team always give above 100% & you can tell that in your completed projects. You always take the time to explain everything step by step to help your viewers & push us to do things we usually wouldn't even attempt ourselves. Keep up the amazing work mate, all the best 👍👍
Tip for straightening the wires. Use the cut off sleeve to straighten the wires by squeezing it and sliding it up over the wires a few times. Perfect for those cold days.
A quick question, I appreciate a cable connection is always preferable, but how do they compare to powerline LAN systems? I appreciate there may be some efficiency issues especially in properties with older wiring, but it seems like an affordable and clean alternative to a long cable run.
Hey guys. Brilliant brilliant video. I’m planning a garden room and will be doing the network/internet part myself. This video has confirmed exactly what I need tools wise and how to do it. Thanks so much for posting this.
Shame I missed out on your drill raffle. 😂.
Fantastic, detailed info, spot on mate!! Keep em coming!!
Cracking vid guys, I wired up a summer house for a customer, he bought a cat6 outdoor cable from amazon 50m so easy job I just clipped it round his house, both ends already made off if people don't fancy going through the process of making the ends off
Good video, I done the same but only 50m, I've had no issues in 4 years, no point over complicating things for garden room most will only provide WiFi for tele n few phones while in the room
Exactly this 👌
cheers Liam, for explaining this to an idiot (unskilled 'rookie'), guess what, i am
Cat 6A can go up too 100m with out losing any speed
Mate .. some top info here between the video and the comments .. top drawer ❤
Them passthro RJ45 Heads are the same ones i use there brilliant
Of course he used to work for Virgin media... using jellies on ethernet cabling is not a suitable way to fix a broken section. Cut the cable, fit RJ45 ends on each and use a coupler to plug them together. You can get couplers in weathertight enclosures for outdoor use.
Real world
Real solutions,
Karen
@@thegardenroomguru Thanks for your reply Karen. I hope you're having a nice evening.
Send big john this link and tell him to skip to 25:24 😉😂
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good video as always lads 👏🏼
Thanks tip taken :)
@@BODALLY judging by the speeds you got tho, all the things we’ve been told are clearly not that important are they. If it makes any difference at all it’s fractional to the point you’d not notice
@@Cablesmith yes I agree but of course I love info and will do it your way next time :). Sometimes rules and guides are just that :).
Good video mate, just started following. 👍
@@peterwillingham6585 legend 👏🏼
Good day Liam and the team please keep posting
Always
It is certainly a good practice to have a wiring diagram at hand for the ethernet. Saying that based on my own experience :D But a cable tester tool is a nice to have too. Very good stuff guys, as usual!
🇬🇧🇬🇧 Well done lads great job⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️🍺🍺
Steadily getting thru all your videos… and have to congratulate you on the content … great work .. detail explanations best one the tube .. great viewing
Thank you 😊
i hope someone can help me with these colour codes please
the panel i've got is cat 6 and the colours go brown/green/orange/blue, yet the cat 5e cable i've got has the colours brown/green/blue/orange
does it really make a difference?
i've still got to move some furniture and pull a floorboard before i terminate so i don't want to do it wrong
or is it just a case of as long as those wires from position 1/2/3 etc corresponds to positions 1/2/3 etc on the other end it's all good?
thanks
Love the raw footage approach, problem solving at its finest…..cable not plugged into the router 😂😂
Keeping it real 🤦🏻♂️🤣
Very useful information to get WiFi into the loft room. With this model now discontinued, Would you and John use another TP-Link branded Mesh wi-fi router these days, or would you use another model? Thanks very useful video.
Possibly the most informative vlog in building. Thanks to John, and the Informative questions from Liam. Ta Lads. Brilliant .
For this purpose (10/100/1000BASE-T) Cat 6 is certified to 100metres. Beyond 100, signal can be impacted and may impact speed but unlikely if you’re going over it by 10/20% or sometimes more.
For 10GBASE-T which wouldn’t typically be seen in residential, 55m Cat6 is the certified length.
Always best to use a shielded cable as well, to minimise the opportunity for cross-talk and interference.
A Cat5e cable (same distance limitations as Cat 6) is capable of 1000Mbps and likely to provide more than enough throughput for residential users - particularly as they’re likely to use wifi at the other end, not plug in using Ethernet anyway.
Cat6 won’t provide any tangible benefits in a residential environment over and above a Cat5e cable as home routers aren’t generally capable of 10G BASE-T.
All that said, it won’t hurt to put Cat 6 in - but soon comes Cat 7 and Cat 8. Where do you stop? :)
You run fibre... ;-)
Wrong Cat6 is certified to run NBaseT at 5Gbps over the full 100m which will give you a benefit over Cat5e. Cat7 and Cat8 are and will remain something that the gullible install. They both require special connectors or you make matters worse and they are not certified for use with any IEEE 802.3 standard for structured wiring.
I like your pink nail varnish Liam. Ready for the weekend. Go for it!
Hahaha I noticed that too
socket at both ends. The cable should not be run parallel to the mains even with SWA and an access point or switch so that it is running on the same subnet. A router would be useful if you wanted to set security parameters such as not letting people connect to your network. Other than that, good video
The maximum recommended for CAT6 is 100metres, if you need longer then use fibre with a fibre converter each end.
smashing it as always Liam and the gang love it
you shouldn't untwist the wires more than 1cm, they are twisted because they use differential signalling... in the real world it doesn't matter but if you were to work to spec
This whole build from start to this latest video has been exceptionally well documented. 👍🏻, I’m only just hearing of this IPTV!! Plz tell more..?
Great video guys. Well done
fyi for Gb connection speeds the recommended max distance is 100m. for a cleaner finish I've installed unifi access points in my house and when I get a garden room I'll be using the in wall hd access points. there is no lose kit as it's fixed to the wall, it's POE+ and it has a POE pass through and 4 Ethernet ports to act as a switch.
to split and straighten the cores put a very fine screwdriver in between the cores and pull , it will untwist and straighten them .
the one i've been waiting for 👍
He gives a sterling performance
Good to see even you pros have a few issue, happens to the best
Cracking video again👍
Hi, the connectors referred to as “Jellies” are filled with petroleum jelly, not silicon jelly.
I have followed your channel for so long and enjoyed watching every project. Thanks so much for explaining how the internet is installed in a garden room .
Liam, John, Great vid. Many thanks. Layman’s explanation is very much appreciated. The ‘Access Point’ trick makes so much sense. Thanks again.
I liked the double entendre that was missed, re got the tip in very non pc😂
Finding it hard to find this mesh router, is there another you'd recommend?
🤣 John telling us about the light bulb going off when Davy had plugged the lead into the Modem at the house. The best part was the light bulb moment in John's head when he realised the cable was not connected in the house!!
Great video as always. However, I'd have had the cat6 cable further in by about another 5mm as you can see on the video that the RJ45 drop lug that will secure that cable in place is far to close to the edge of the outer cable insulation. Also, the outside run on the garden room, could come straight down, cuting the cable run by about 2 to 3 meters maybe. God, when I use to do these cables myseld, did them for 10+ years, we didn't had them RJ45 where the cables would pertrude out. Still, each to their own and that cable won't see much disturbance anyway. I hope you haven't done one standard (A) one side and standard (B) called (crossover cable). Just my personal opinion guys. Still another great video with great content for many of us out here that could use it I'm sure. Carry on the cracking good job you guys always do.P.S: Too much exposed uninsulated cable on that end buddy! The less exposed cable, the less noise on the wires, the faster the network connection.
Yes. Use 568B.
Really interesting video Liam: John 👍👍
Super handy and explained really well. Thank you.
John a man of many talents!
Do you have to put virgin hub 3 to modem mode?
Where did you get the Cat6 cable from mate? Great video keep up the good work.
Fantastic details thanks guys
Would an access point not be a cheaper, more straight forward option rather than a second router? Are you using the router as just an access point or are you turning on modem mode on the virgin hub and using the TP Link as the main router? Best approach imo would be Cat 6 from the house to a network switch in the garden room and then you can run cables to all your devices from there including an access point and if opting for a POE switch this can power your IP cameras etc over ethernet for an easier install. With WIFI 6 becoming mainstream now a router would then be the better option.
It’s a router & access point? Wi-Fi and wired switching
I'd have a lovely Draytek managed switch on that end at the garden room.
Crimping tool went up a tenner during this video - proper inflation! lol!
Took a while to film, blame Liz truss, I don’t write the rules
Playing havoc with my ocd! 😂
whers the next videos
Legend John👍
cheers pal
Excellent work! 👍
Great Video Guys
Nice one John well explained
Awesome
brilliant video lads
That’s explanation for the cabling and the clever crimping !!🔥🔥 absolutely brilliant proper men’s stuff I’m not even that interested in electrics etc ! But I nearly had to go upstairs for a 5 minute think about it
Great vid Liam nice one 👍🏻💪🏼💪🏼
PMSL
@@BODALLY very well explained mate ! I really enjoyed it ! I mean in front of the camera too just to make it harder! 👍🏻💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼
First 👏🏼😂😂
took your time fella!🤣
@@thegardenroomguru I’ve still not watched it yet… waiting for the kids to go to bed so I can actually hear it as well 😂
Liam & John, great video as always but I was wondering, why don't you use a power line system where the internet connection goes through a standard electric plug instead of running the cable all the way to the house? Doesn't the garden room share the same electric circuit of the house? Yes, they a bit more expensive than £80 but it would save you a lot of time and there would be no cables at all
1gb link over 95m of cat6, lucky to get a 30-50mb link over that distance over Homeplug. Wired Ethernet absolutely worth it.
The latency on the homeplug is terrible
Couldn't you fit a WiFi extender
Just wondering how you expect international viewers to send you an envelope with uk stamps on. 😄
It doesn’t need a uk stamp mate, just your country’s stamp with my address on and your address on the back, job done 👌