I haven't shot the e-tip but I absolutely love what I've seen from Barnes so far. My 7mm rem mag averages 3230 fps with factory loaded 150 gr TTSX! It's an absolute hammer. My son flattened a cow Elk at 265 yard with a 127 gr. LRX out of his 6.5 CM. Love what Barnes is doing.
Thanks for the video. I'll give it to Barnes for the win. Like you, I see Barnes bullets more often than Nosler. I have had great experiences with the LRX. Take care.
Gentlemen, I use the 129 grain LRX in my 270 Win., awesome bullet. I have some 227 grain F-Tips (Made by Nosler for Federal, just like the E-Tip. Confirmed by Nosler tech support) in .338. Almost identical. Have not used them yet. I can spare a few if you wanted to test them out.
@@ReloadingWeatherby Agreed. I have found the 127 gr LRX very accurate (sub MOA) in my Ruger American Predator in 6.4 Creedmore out to 200 yards and have taken a deer and a hog inside 150 yards with it with great results. Working on my 300 yard handloads opening up a bit with it but it's probably the shooter.
@@willfalkner4936 Hey Will, I’m a huge weatherby fan but I would still suggest some caution before you buy the 6.5 RPM. I have been hearing nothing but pressure issues even with factory loads. I can only get to the middle of the load data before pressure signs show up. Been getting around 3006 FPS with 140 Interlock and IMR8133, hopefully the 127 LRX will be better. But the two people I heard who shot the weatherby factory 127 LRX both said they had pressure issues, the other gentlemen can’t even shot the starting load with 127 LRX when hand loading. There is a guy on UA-cam who got a backcountry 2.0 Carbon in the RPM, he will be posting more video on this cartridge with other loads and there are some valuable information on the comment section. As of the limited information available online combined with my limited personal experience, the 6.5 PRC seems like the better option at the moment with very similar performance but uses less powder.
You did a video a year ago loading LRX into a 3006. I couldn’t find the follow up video, I was wondering how the load turned out. I just ordered some of this ammo for my new 3006.
It didn't go well, only tested it with RL 22 I believe? Could have been RL 19. My friends gun(30-06) has liked the 168 TTSX, so I really haven't tested anymore 175 LRX. There is a video on it... ua-cam.com/video/s1wepH_GYvE/v-deo.html
I use to shoot nosler partition 130gr in my 270wsm and one day i tried the barnes 130tsx and they were shooting under one inch at 200 yards diddent know my gun was so accurate it's a browning A- bolt stainless stocker with the boss system now barnes is all i shoot in my 270 and they do a perty good job on white tail so far no complaints.
I have experience with both. I have not killed an animal with an e tip but I'm sure it would work well. The lrx and the ttsx are my first choice and as long as I can get my hands on em I'll continue to run them. Here in Canada it was a really good selection but latley it's gone bad. I'm thinking Canada's demand was behind America's. It doesn't look good in the near future.
I have reloaded and hunted with both! I like Nosler and my father reloaded with Nosler in the 50’s and 60’s but I think the Barnes is more accurate from the ones I have reloaded and shot. They both hold together about the same so I would go with the Barns for that reason and they are a little easier to get then the Nosler!
@@ReloadingWeatherby that sounds better. I have a box of factory lrx 190 grain and the box says 499. I wish they loaded the 175 in 300winmag. I'm stuck with the slow 190 that's only running 2840 real world velocity.
Barnes is the leader in copper bullets. Their relief grooves are the result of years of experience. Reduced pressures and copper fowling, directly affecting performance barrel life and consistency. No reliefs equates to a loss for the e-tip. Also although still non-toxic, these bullets are not monolithic. Ballistic tip plus copper is 2 piece.
I shoot the lrx out of my 338 RUM... my elk thumper...great bullet! Never tried the etips... been shooting the Barnes for 40+ years, TSX, TTSX & now the LRX... good stuff
How can we pick without concrete examples of terminal performance... Reading stats from reloading books isn't conducive to making well founded choices. You haven't fired a single round.
bought a box of every factory 6.5cm lead-free cartridge i could find to find out what my 110 Ultralite liked best. I was really hoping the 127lrx would perform well, but i got a 1.1" and 1.6" 3round group out of it. Only shot 1 3round group with the nosler e-tip, which was .6". Was really hoping it would NOT be the winner because i don't reload (at least not yet), and that crap is EXPENSIVE! but, nosler claims a better BC than barnes does, and it's a hunting rifle, so price doesn't really matter for a box a year.
Barnes LRX for the WIN! Go to load in 300-Wby and 6.5 creedmoor, sub MOA accurate, with some of the deepest penetration, also Available and affordable.
ah, the never-ending competition and arguments and rebuttals, I'll make it very simple, they're both great cant go wrong with either. but it really depends on what your rifle likes more than what you think, if you care about fouling, keep in mind that mono bullets are good at it. Hornady's new CX bullets are not 100% copper, they added alloy to combat copper fouling which in-turn ads in accuracy. well, at least in theory. I own Nosler E-tips and Hornady GMX, will be ordering CX next for all my tools. Hornady also improved the drag geometry which adds about 100 yards when compared to their GMX's. but the main drawback on mono's is the fact that they need around 2000 feet per second to expand property, and so thats why many folks hate on monolithic bullets, whereas the ELD-X's need about 1600-1800 FPS. moral of the story folks, different bullets are made for different reasons and so its not all about this being better than that. its "what are you using it for" and the range, of course. too many seem to not understand nor use common sense
Should throw the hornady gmx in there also. I've not got to use them but they seem ever so slightly better then the barnes ttsx as far as fouling and the over all way it travels down the bore. I think the spiral aspect of the gmx is just a little bit better then the hula hoop style on the barnes. However I've killed my largest blacktail with a spinal shot when he was on the edge of a clear-cut that was below me. The damage was beautiful to see. Litterally makes sand out of the bones in about six inch hole. I'd recommend hitting bone when using barnes ttsx. I hit a black bear with 210 grains barnes vortex ttsx and was at about fifty yards with my 338 win mag. Because I missed any bone it kinda just pushed the bear off its feet and there it out of site for a few seconds. Left blood at first but lost it because at the time I was unaware about the fat sealed up the wound. Anyway love this stuff always cramming to learn more. Thanks for all your work keep it up.
The GMX and the ETip out expanded both Barnes bullets. Using a Magnum or PRC velocities can easily break off the peddles when they encounter bone with close range engagements. The LRX would be a better choice for use in high velocities magnums.
The e tips are a great bullet but the lrx tend to have better bcs iv used both successfully I prefer the lrx and have used them in a number of chambering right now my main gun that shoots barns is the 26 nosler shooting the barns lrx 127 grn at 3500 fps. It is devastating to say the least lol
Although limited, I've had mixed results on big game, using mono-metal bullets. On deer sized game, performance has been spectacular, especially in 7 Mag. But in 338 Mag, not so much on bear, muskox and even caribou. Slow killing. On the other hand, everything shot with the good old Nosler Partition goes right down. I'm just not sold on either of the 2 copper bullets presented here, or any mono bullet.
They do not expand well at all. Tell me why weight retention matters on game? Mono bullets are always light for caliber. They have terrible bcs, do not retain velocity and energy is lacking. All things that are not what you should be looking for in a hunting bullet. I am blown away at how little you mono fans know. A lead bullet that dumps all it's enery into an animal and doesn't retain all its weight will still do way more damage to the vitals than your mono bullets. Do you plan on reusing your bullet lol. What's it matter? Are you from California?
You okay? You seem pretty worked up about this. Each bullet has its strengths and weakness. You need velocity and closer distances for the mono bullets.
@@ReloadingWeatherby I bet they do damage less meat, as they don't expand for shit lol. Someone that knows where to shoot an animal will lose very little meat either either. The last two deer I shot with a u rem mag with an eld x I wasted less than a pound each. I would have been hard pressed to make a hamburger patty with the amount of meat wasted one the deer I shot in idaho with a 6m5 creed.
I haven't shot the e-tip but I absolutely love what I've seen from Barnes so far. My 7mm rem mag averages 3230 fps with factory loaded 150 gr TTSX! It's an absolute hammer. My son flattened a cow Elk at 265 yard with a 127 gr. LRX out of his 6.5 CM. Love what Barnes is doing.
Thanks for the video. I'll give it to Barnes for the win. Like you, I see Barnes bullets more often than Nosler.
I have had great experiences with the LRX.
Take care.
And thanks for getting those barnes bullets to me
Glad I could help!
Gentlemen, I use the 129 grain LRX in my 270 Win., awesome bullet. I have some 227 grain F-Tips (Made by Nosler for Federal, just like the E-Tip. Confirmed by Nosler tech support) in .338. Almost identical. Have not used them yet. I can spare a few if you wanted to test them out.
LRX due to availability here in Canada. I started using the 6.5 RPM this year, and working up a load with 127 LRX for it.
Thanks for commenting!
Looking at the 6.5 Wby RPM as possiblity my next rifle, chambering Barnes LRX bullets. Good stuff.
@@willfalkner4936 I just got my Dad some 127 LRX bullets for his 6.5 PRC. Can't go wrong with the LRX bullet.
@@ReloadingWeatherby Agreed. I have found the 127 gr LRX very accurate (sub MOA) in my Ruger American Predator in 6.4 Creedmore out to 200 yards and have taken a deer and a hog inside 150 yards with it with great results. Working on my 300 yard handloads opening up a bit with it but it's probably the shooter.
@@willfalkner4936 Hey Will, I’m a huge weatherby fan but I would still suggest some caution before you buy the 6.5 RPM. I have been hearing nothing but pressure issues even with factory loads. I can only get to the middle of the load data before pressure signs show up. Been getting around 3006 FPS with 140 Interlock and IMR8133, hopefully the 127 LRX will be better. But the two people I heard who shot the weatherby factory 127 LRX both said they had pressure issues, the other gentlemen can’t even shot the starting load with 127 LRX when hand loading. There is a guy on UA-cam who got a backcountry 2.0 Carbon in the RPM, he will be posting more video on this cartridge with other loads and there are some valuable information on the comment section. As of the limited information available online combined with my limited personal experience, the 6.5 PRC seems like the better option at the moment with very similar performance but uses less powder.
You did a video a year ago loading LRX into a 3006. I couldn’t find the follow up video, I was wondering how the load turned out. I just ordered some of this ammo for my new 3006.
It didn't go well, only tested it with RL 22 I believe? Could have been RL 19. My friends gun(30-06) has liked the 168 TTSX, so I really haven't tested anymore 175 LRX. There is a video on it... ua-cam.com/video/s1wepH_GYvE/v-deo.html
I use to shoot nosler partition 130gr in my 270wsm and one day i tried the barnes 130tsx and they were shooting under one inch at 200 yards diddent know my gun was so accurate it's a browning A- bolt stainless stocker with the boss system now barnes is all i shoot in my 270 and they do a perty good job on white tail so far no complaints.
Thanks for sharing
I have experience with both. I have not killed an animal with an e tip but I'm sure it would work well. The lrx and the ttsx are my first choice and as long as I can get my hands on em I'll continue to run them. Here in Canada it was a really good selection but latley it's gone bad. I'm thinking Canada's demand was behind America's. It doesn't look good in the near future.
Hopefully you see more soon
I have reloaded and hunted with both! I like Nosler and my father reloaded with Nosler in the 50’s and 60’s but I think the Barnes is more accurate from the ones I have reloaded and shot. They both hold together about the same so I would go with the Barns for that reason and they are a little easier to get then the Nosler!
I'm trying to figure out how a 175 grain lrx in 30 caliber has a higher bc than the 190gr 30 caliber.
It doesn't.... unless that 190 gr bullet was a traditional soft point bullet.
@@ReloadingWeatherby no I'm talking about the lrx bullet loaded in factory barnes. They list the 190 at .499 and the 175 in the 500's
@@adamshaw8214 Must be a printing mistake. The barnes reloading data says the 175LRX has a b.c. of .508 and the 190 LRX is .541
@@ReloadingWeatherby that sounds better. I have a box of factory lrx 190 grain and the box says 499. I wish they loaded the 175 in 300winmag. I'm stuck with the slow 190 that's only running 2840 real world velocity.
Even Nosler doesn't have the Expansion Tip. The better bullet is the one you can get. Right now it's Barnes.
I've seen a few packages of nosler etip bullets here and didn't pick them up like an idiot
I will have to go with the Barnes
Thanks for your vote
Here in PA the e-tips are everywhere. I haven’t seen Barnes in a year.
Interesting.... I'm in the same state that Barnes is located. So no surprise I see more of the Barnes bullets.
Huh! Interesting. Here in Texas I never see the e-tips but see Barnes, specifically the TTSX bullets usually.
Barnes is the leader in copper bullets. Their relief grooves are the result of years of experience. Reduced pressures and copper fowling, directly affecting performance barrel life and consistency. No reliefs equates to a loss for the e-tip.
Also although still non-toxic, these bullets are not monolithic. Ballistic tip plus copper is 2 piece.
Nosler is top’s as a hunting bullet which is probably why there so difficult to find especially the partition.
I shoot the lrx out of my 338 RUM... my elk thumper...great bullet! Never tried the etips... been shooting the Barnes for 40+ years, TSX, TTSX & now the LRX... good stuff
Hey I have the same cartridge and was wondering what's your load for the 338 lrx. What kind of speed and accuracy are you getting ? Thanks
How can we pick without concrete examples of terminal performance... Reading stats from reloading books isn't conducive to making well founded choices. You haven't fired a single round.
bought a box of every factory 6.5cm lead-free cartridge i could find to find out what my 110 Ultralite liked best. I was really hoping the 127lrx would perform well, but i got a 1.1" and 1.6" 3round group out of it. Only shot 1 3round group with the nosler e-tip, which was .6". Was really hoping it would NOT be the winner because i don't reload (at least not yet), and that crap is EXPENSIVE! but, nosler claims a better BC than barnes does, and it's a hunting rifle, so price doesn't really matter for a box a year.
I can find the e-tips but not the Barnes LRX in my area
I shot some 180ttsx the other day at only 2900 fps and it lost all of its petals. Only the shank was left
Wow
Great video by the way!
No bad choice here but I do think in this case the Barnes LRX is a bit better design.
Thanks
Great review and Info bro . BYU finished the season strong .
It was a good season
My vote goes to Barnes! I love their bullets!
Thanks for your vote
0:17 "Let's compare it to Nosler's e-tip"
0:19 "Unfortunately, I don't have any e-tips"
Bro WTF?
Thanks for watching
Barnes LRX for the WIN! Go to load in 300-Wby and 6.5 creedmoor, sub MOA accurate, with some of the deepest penetration, also Available and affordable.
Thanks for commenting
@@ReloadingWeatherby had to, literally just loaded some LRX up... 😂
Up here in Northern Alberta, Nosler products have extremely poor availability. We can get barnes and hornady though.
ah, the never-ending competition and arguments and rebuttals, I'll make it very simple, they're both great cant go wrong with either. but it really depends on what your rifle likes more than what you think, if you care about fouling, keep in mind that mono bullets are good at it. Hornady's new CX bullets are not 100% copper, they added alloy to combat copper fouling which in-turn ads in accuracy. well, at least in theory. I own Nosler E-tips and Hornady GMX, will be ordering CX next for all my tools. Hornady also improved the drag geometry which adds about 100 yards when compared to their GMX's. but the main drawback on mono's is the fact that they need around 2000 feet per second to expand property, and so thats why many folks hate on monolithic bullets, whereas the ELD-X's need about 1600-1800 FPS. moral of the story folks, different bullets are made for different reasons and so its not all about this being better than that. its "what are you using it for" and the range, of course. too many seem to not understand nor use common sense
Should throw the hornady gmx in there also. I've not got to use them but they seem ever so slightly better then the barnes ttsx as far as fouling and the over all way it travels down the bore. I think the spiral aspect of the gmx is just a little bit better then the hula hoop style on the barnes. However I've killed my largest blacktail with a spinal shot when he was on the edge of a clear-cut that was below me. The damage was beautiful to see. Litterally makes sand out of the bones in about six inch hole. I'd recommend hitting bone when using barnes ttsx. I hit a black bear with 210 grains barnes vortex ttsx and was at about fifty yards with my 338 win mag. Because I missed any bone it kinda just pushed the bear off its feet and there it out of site for a few seconds. Left blood at first but lost it because at the time I was unaware about the fat sealed up the wound. Anyway love this stuff always cramming to learn more. Thanks for all your work keep it up.
GMX will be in a later video
I’ve used both in my 28 nosler and my rifle likes the Barnes way more
Thanks for your vote
Let's go big 12! Nice video
Thanks
I shoot the 127 lrx out of a 6.5-300 Weatherby and it’s excellent.
I believe both are great bullets but if I had to choose I will go with Barnes
Thanks for voting!
I have some Barnes Bullets and feel like they group pretty consistently with sub 1/2 MOA results. Barnes gets my vote
Thanks for your vote
What are you loading them in?
Barnes bullets all day! That bullet put my deer down this year 👍🏻
Try the 168 MKZ.
Let’s see ‘em both
I can't find the E-tips anywhere
Barnes gets my vote!
Simple Minded Feller on UA-cam does a comparison of GMX/LRX/ETip and TTRX with the 6.5 Creedmoor.
The GMX and the ETip out expanded both Barnes bullets. Using a Magnum or PRC velocities can easily break off the peddles when they encounter bone with close range engagements. The LRX would be a better choice for use in high velocities magnums.
Nice
The e tips are a great bullet but the lrx tend to have better bcs iv used both successfully I prefer the lrx and have used them in a number of chambering right now my main gun that shoots barns is the 26 nosler shooting the barns lrx 127 grn at 3500 fps. It is devastating to say the least lol
Lrx. For the win.
Thanks for voting
I love Barnes on beluga and Narwhals but am I the only one that noticed on my rifle thatvBarnes don't group well?
Barnes 140 grain in a 7wsm is awesome.
Thanks for watching!
LRX
I will have to with hold my vote on this one as I dont prefer either one.
Sounds good
Although limited, I've had mixed results on big game, using mono-metal bullets. On deer sized game, performance has been spectacular, especially in 7 Mag. But in 338 Mag, not so much on bear, muskox and even caribou. Slow killing. On the other hand, everything shot with the good old Nosler Partition goes right down. I'm just not sold on either of the 2 copper bullets presented here, or any mono bullet.
Thanks for your comment
Lrx
They do not expand well at all. Tell me why weight retention matters on game? Mono bullets are always light for caliber. They have terrible bcs, do not retain velocity and energy is lacking. All things that are not what you should be looking for in a hunting bullet. I am blown away at how little you mono fans know. A lead bullet that dumps all it's enery into an animal and doesn't retain all its weight will still do way more damage to the vitals than your mono bullets. Do you plan on reusing your bullet lol. What's it matter? Are you from California?
You okay? You seem pretty worked up about this. Each bullet has its strengths and weakness. You need velocity and closer distances for the mono bullets.
@@ReloadingWeatherby I am perfectly fine. Just get tired of hearing people's miss information about mono bullets. They are not better than lead.
@@matthewkyle6939 I never said mono bullets are all around better than lead bullets. But they do penetrate better and do a lot less meat damage.
@@ReloadingWeatherby I bet they do damage less meat, as they don't expand for shit lol. Someone that knows where to shoot an animal will lose very little meat either either. The last two deer I shot with a u rem mag with an eld x I wasted less than a pound each. I would have been hard pressed to make a hamburger patty with the amount of meat wasted one the deer I shot in idaho with a 6m5 creed.
Settle down Beavis
This eskimo rather use barnes on Narwhals
Thanks for commenting!
Neither!
LRX