Flotsam and Jetsam - No place for disgrace (full album) 1988 (original version)
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This is the second press release by roadrunner records 1996.
Line up 1988:
Eric A.K. Vocals, - Lyrics
Michael Gilbert - Guitars, Lyrics
Kelly David-Smith - Drums, Lyrics
Edward Carlson - Guitars, Lyrics
Troy Gregory - Bass
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This album is a masterpiece one of the best albums from this band very underrated
I think it's the best F & J ever did
One of the best thrash albums of the era..not a weak track to be found.
I prefer their first album
Quite possibly the Most underrated album in thrash metal. This one’s a scorcher but I think Eric’s vocal style may have held them back slightly. This was also Jason’s last release with the group as far as writing contributions, not recording so that I always dug that as well. Definitely in my top 20 thrash releases ever…
@@abusivesystems9844 Very true. Didn't F&J struggle with songwriting for a bit after Jason left? It makes me curious what the band would be like if he stayed with. I think Jason co-wrote three songs on this album: No Place For Disgrace, N.E. Terror and I Live, You DIe.
Bar none. This is heartwarming lol
been trying to get the Lost in Vegas channel to react to this tune. Others as well but think the post gets buried down the pg.
such an underrated thrash band that had the talent like the Big 4.
I was 16 when they released this album. Now I'm 49 and I keep listening to it. Nothing more to say.
I feel the same , Mate
Yes 'sir ..
The good old teenage days, when everyone else was busy listening to trash pop. We were feasting on this. Aged like a really good fine wine.
Exact same age brother ..was in a band ..used to sing and play several of these tunes ..people were not ready for it yet 😅 ..not till Metallica got famous
Those were the days.... Im 49 too...
The wonderful cover reflects the drama of the entire album, one of the best trash metal albums of the 80s and 90s
Amazing album. Flotsam is so underrated. This will always be a fond memory of my youth.
Have you heard the last 4 albums of them....?
@@xtremeunderratedmusic I have them ALL my friend. www.metal-archives.com/bands/Flotsam_and_Jetsam/621
@@DarkEyesofSorrow Great man...me too....i think from the cold and after they had release very very good albums...the end of chaos i yhink is after the three classic ones in the ranking...
Im with you bro.!! My personal favorite tho is Doomsday... Fell in love with these fuckers ever since I heard their demod song on Metal Masscre 7 I believe.. "I live you die". Such an underrated band..these dudes will obliterate SO many of the popular bandwagon-to-like-bands like sucky ass Megadeth..no comparison.
Them with king diamond was good show.
The lost era of albums that you can jam out to from start to finish. \m/
3:08 chills up my spine❤❤💖💖
agreed..
At the peak of their musical creation. This album was as good as any other thrash album from this era. Masterpiece!!! The debut was great as well.
Definitely is a masterpiece.Flotsam and jetsam career has three eras for me.
First 1984- 1990:Three amazing albums ( very bad that fans don't realize how great album when the storm comes down is).
Second 1991 - 2009 : very mid tempo albums with great musicality but in the shadow of 90s grunge albums like quarto and drift (which for me still remains classic albums) drawn in that wave. High album was a bit of wrong comeback .
Then they release the most piramatic album 'unnatural selection' and the second era close with 'my god' and 'dreams of death' wich was good albums but they had lost the motivation in general.
Third 2010-2021 : This era begins with an album 'The cold' that is a well hidden treasure for the fans and i never understand why the fans didn't embrace it. Songs like better off dead,the cold,hypocrite,take, should be in any live set list.
They continue with 'ugly noise' which for me is a very good album but with
More melodic direction and that helps eric to shine once again but the fans again they don't support them.
And when the bands name was a mediorce feeling to metalheads worldwide then they release 2016 self titled 'flotsam and jetsam' that blow our minds...michael spencer is back, jason bitnner were tremendous and band was again a killing gang as the first era...the afm records made a good work for promoting the band and tgey tour a lot worldwide...tge fans and the reviewers hug the self titled and they waiting the next strike...jason bitnner left the band and the band makes the best decision ...they join forces with outstanding ken Mary... they release 2019 the 'end of chaos ' that left our jaws on the floor and all the band shines as the 80's ....a pure masterpiece and i think the new 'blood in the Water' will be masterpiece too as much i heard for now....
Flotz till death...
Ningún otro como este...
I didn't care for much of F&J stuff, but I always thought this album was plain amazing.
This is already a masterpiece record since the bass line is badass and the whole instrument is, Jason Newsted was the Heart Commendable guy in this band since his contribution to three of the songs here were top-notch I mean look at this Underrated album being posted but very important as an outstanding aura which most people don't seemingly recognize in Most Thrash Metal Topics, this album needs more recognition I love this already man, Progy Thrash with great vocal Harmonies sounds like Forbidden.
Troy Gregory
Creo que en este LP no toca Jason ... sino TRoy
Si Forbidden suena similar a Flotsam&Jetsam o Flotsam&Jetsam suenan similar es a Forbidden
@@donpelayo4496Si Newsted no esta es Troy creo
@@johnkowal6770 Sorry I get mostly Error type I will edit it Sir.
Der Name ist Programm, einer der besten Thrash Metal Alben. Ich höre es sehr gerne. Metallica, Testament, Slayer Exodus, Anthrax & eben Flotsam & Jetsam haben Legenden erschaffen, dieses ist eines davon.
Im 50 and still listening to this Album!!
57 and still🙉
Gen X represent. still listening to them too. first seen em live on the When the Storm tour.
same here
My best thrash metal album from the 80s. I was 15 when I heard it, I was so impressed. Still I am.
This album came out right after i did 90 days in rehab(wasnt even 18 and a major alcoholic) in May 1988. Always loved Eric Knutson's vocals!
the bass is placed perfectly in the mix
the technology did exist in 1988
Analog mixes was sounding much better than digitals...
@@xtremeunderratedmusic eh.. the last bit was mostly a dig at what happened to Mr Newsted that year
the first bit... it's what metal fans expect and deserve
@@toddwilliams8128 For fuck's sake, give it a rest, people have been yammering about it for 30 years
One of the greatest albums period!
One of the best metal albums ever....and "Escape From Within" one of my all time favorite metal songs...gives me chills....49 now...listening since I was 16....thanks for posting
Great band, to me criminally underrated
... 🤘 🇺🇸 (USA)
... legendary FLOTSAM AND JETSAM 🇺🇸 (formerly PARADOX 🇺🇲/ DREDLOX 🇺🇲/ DOGZ 🇺🇲) from the USA, Speed-/ Thrash-Metal institution ... 🤘 🇺🇸
My fav almum all time....The very best of Speed metal album ever...
Most definitely one of the best thrash albums of all time. Crushes from start to finish. Gilbert/Carlson rule Bartertown....five Flots enter, NO man leave.
This is in my Opinion the Best Album of all Time across all Styles of Metal .
Its indeed fantastic but this is stretching it far too much
Ok, Mrs. David-Smith
agreed. I also think another band same time was Wrathchild America.
i still have this on cassette...
One of my favourite albums back in the late 80s.
Incredible master art of pure SPEED/THRASH - Eric A. K. 100 % inspired
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Every time I listen to this album, pure adrenaline comes to me!!!
i think the first 5 album from flotsam is masterpieces ...Me when i hear this one i wanna break a wall
Yep, me too, i take my katana and go onto battle take some heads, hé hé. More seriously this is really a masterpiece of thrash/ speed. The riffs are just crushing every time and the voice of eric is unforgettable. One of the best, if not the best singer of thrash scene. got the vinyl.thx for upload
I have to admit, is the first time i heard this album, and i really upset to not listen more choices in my early metal years, this is a beauty, very thrash album, powerfull, in those years i was more foccused in Metallica, megadeth, anthrax, sepultura, testament, now i´m more death metal kind of music, but i´m gonna add this album to my favs 🤘🤘
More Thrash Metal albums from that time I recommend to check out (if you are not already familiar with them): Coroner - any album, Forbidden - "Forbidden Evil", Hexenhaus - "A Tribute to Insanity", Anacrusis - "Suffering Hour" and "Reason", Znowhite - "Act of God", Détente - "Recognize No Authority", Sacrilege - "Within the Prophecy", Voivod - "Killing Technology", Toxik - "World Circus", Mekong Delta - "Mekong Delta".
The fuckin album is a really brutal journey. This the first time that I hear it complete, I've just listened two or three songs in the past like; Escape from within or No Place for Disgrace, and since then I was really interested of the band, but now that I listened the full album, man, this is real music, the holy album has all; armony, melody, velocity, attack, effects, details. I can't believe that they could make sound to Elton John heavy. This is a fuckin masterpiece.
Most underrated band ever
Yeh especially with the last 4 albums they had release...from the cold ,the self titled, world of chaos, blood in the water,
Most undersized band
@@xtremeunderratedmusic Nah the No Place for Disgrace, When the storm comes down, and Drift their best. The new stuff is good but not the same
@@ndfnq7811 why are they short?
@@jasongruntkosky6604 Genetics?
Brilliantly written and composed album! Thrash at it best hands down, it doesn't get any better than this! If you're a real head banger this album should be your #1 in your collection! 🤘
A milestone of thrash. Insane perfection from a band that should have rightfully gained more popularity back then. No serious thrash/speed collection can omit this. They have always reminded me of a thrashier version of classic USPM bands, blending a very melodic compositional sense, with crushingly heavy classic thrash riffs, and an overall bleak and semi paranoid atmosphere. The next album (When The Storm Comes Down) , is definitely the most underrated thrash metal album in history.
Ήσουν περιεκτικότατος ....
Συμφωνώ απόλυτα και το ίδιο πιστεύω και για το when the storm comes down.
@@xtremeunderratedmusic THNX! Ομοεθνής βλέπω!!!
@@stratoseleftheriadis3696 Φυσικά, παντού υπάρχει Έλληνας... χαχαχαχα. Τσεκαρε το κανάλι μου αν θες....
@@xtremeunderratedmusic το έχω τσεκάρει ήδη! Μ ' αρέσεις!
@@stratoseleftheriadis3696 Τότε όπως καταλαβαίνεις απολαμβάνω flotsam and jetsam ...ειδικά τα 3 τελευταία είναι από άλλο πλανήτη.
56 years old listen to this weekly.
This is real thrash metal! Theres are tons of superb thrash metal acts long way better than mtllc!
Keep criying
I was 18 years old when this album came out Good times drive my ex mother-in-law crazy when I was cranking this album out LOL
It's driven me to drink. But I suppose I never needed an excuse. Darn fucking migraine!
Great masterpiece from one of the best years in metal.
Yeah man..I like also the next album...i think Flotsam and Jetsam in first 5 albums have 5 masterpieces.
@@xtremeunderratedmusic agreed!
So right ..there were a few years there that this kind of metal was the shit ..miss those times ..metal with real talent
1. No Place for Disgrace - 0:00
2. Dreams of Death - 6:12
3. N. E. Terror - 11:51
4. Escape From Within - 17:47
5. Saturday Night’s Alright for Fighting (Elton John Cover) - 24:33
6. Hard on You - 28:25
7. I Live You Die - 33:15
8. Misguided Fortune - 39:04
9. P. A. A. B. - 44:44
10. The Jones (Instrumental) - 50:15
Спасибо🌠❤🌠💎🌠🎁❤💌🫶💌❤🎁🌠💎🌠❤🌠
Pure Awesomeness!
Like the new album Blood in the water.
Killer band out of the 80's that still brings bad ass thrash shows!! FLOTS TIL' DEATH!!
And bad ass thash albums...
YEAH BROTHER!!!
these are some of the most incredible lyrics. ive always loved this album.
superb thank you.
Auch wieder so eine Gruppe, die ganz, ganz stark zurück gekommen ist. Leider nicht wieder mit Jason Newsted, der nach Metallica, solo unterwegs war, aber die Alben mit Eric AK und dessen Gruppe alle guten Trash ablieferten. Heisse Angelegenheit, aus dem heissen Arizona.
2:54 -13:48 Some very Beautiful moments, these guys can really play.. I swear, just like this i'm gonna be Metal till the day I die ❤️🤘
"Gracefully, with steady hand,
He takes the dagger that lays before him.
Collects his thoughts for the last time,
And plunges the dirge from left to right.
No sign of pain on his face,
With the final cut withdraws the blade.
Loyal companion by his side,
Lifts the sword to help him die.
Lightning flash, one swift blow,
Honor is done, warriors head rolls"
One of my top5 metal records of all times
You must also check the end of chaos 2019 and blood in the water 2021...flotsam still kick some ass
A THRASH MASTERPIECE HERE
Hell yeahhhhhh. Oldie but goodie here. Love this old gem 💎. . And very underated album too.
Crank it up loud. . FLOTS TILL DEATH
🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘
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... legendary FLOTSAM AND JETSAM 🇺🇸 (formerly PARADOX 🇺🇲/ DREDLOX 🇺🇲/ DOGZ 🇺🇲) from the USA, Speed-/ Thrash-Metal institution ... 🤘 🇺🇸
happy anniversary
I have always thought this was just as killer as Metallica, Megadeth, and Anthrax in those days. Great thrash album, still kicks my ass decades later. 8th grade,1988, hey dude, ever heard flotsam and jetsam?....
I think Flotsam and Jetsam deserve the recognition that Megadeth or metallica have. You must hear the last three albums and the new songs from the upcoming Blood in The water....the level in going high and we must support them.
I began listening to fltsom jetsom back in 1993 -94 and I was 39 in nursing scholl ; I like listening while skating either my board or inline .. I still d; there is no equivvilent ..
I've listened to both versions back to back now and the old recordings are clearly the better ones. The new version isn't bad, but didn't really need it.
If the label hadn't messed up the master tapes, a remaster would have sufficed.
Although, the sound is still really crisp and powerful today.
Esse disco é um clássico do thrash metal da década de 80.
Back when metal album covers had outrageously jacked dudes doing something badass on them
In this case, seppuku
@@gringo3002 Correct.
Bolo yeung with katana flexing in the back
Magnifico álbum
True man...and the last one called end of chaos is great too....
@@xtremeunderratedmusic I haven't even heard of this one!! And Flotsam is one of my favorites!!! ??
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Flotz till death!! \mm/
Hell yeah. Essential thrash right here
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1. No Place for Disgrace 00:00
2. Dreams of Death 06:12
3. N.E. Terror 11:51
4. Escape from Within 17:47
5. Saturday Night's Alright for Fighting (Elton John cover) 24:33
6. Hard on You 28:25
7. I Live You Die 33:15
8. Misguided Fortune 39:04
9. P.A.A.B. 44:44
10. The Jones 50:15 instrumental
My favorite song off this great album is
I LIVE YOU DIE. such a bad ass song. Love that jam.
@@alexsaucedo8032 Dreams of Death is also beatiful jjjj
@@donpelayo4496
That's a great song. Love that jam. This whole album kicks ass. . CRANK IT UP LOUD. HORNS UP 🤘 🤘 🤘 🤘 🤘 🤘 🤘 🤘 🤘 🤘 🤘 🤘 🤘 🤘 🤘 🤘 🤘 🤘 🤘
@@alexsaucedo8032 In a land that no one comes from.
In your mind when your eyes are closed.
Is this a happening that's real or make-believe?
Are the things you see really there?
And the things you hear, are you scared?
You try to run away but you can't move, yeah.
Wake up! Wake up!
Hard on U!!!! ... wtf, es preciosa
Loved catching them at the celebrity theater back in on the day.. they always went a little extra hard for the home crowd
At the Celebrity with King Diamond. The barricade fell. Awesome, awesome gig!!!
Una joya de colección !!! 🤘🤘🤘
Great album from 1988 legend
Excelente
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... legendary FLOTSAM AND JETSAM 🇺🇸 (formerly PARADOX 🇺🇲/ DREDLOX 🇺🇲/ DOGZ 🇺🇲) from the USA, Speed-/ Thrash-Metal institution ... 🤘 🇺🇸
the base player is nuts
Excellent follow up album Jason was in his new band but Troy stepped up to help make it happen classic from 88
Troy plays the basslines of Mike Spencer which join the band after jason newsted transfer to Metallica .Spencer left Sentinel Beast and left Flotsam and Jetsam little time before the recordings of this masterpiece.
Thrash metal by the book, awesome album.
thanks for the upload
I remember buying this vinyl on a whim back in high school., didn't know who they were, but I saw metal blade stamp on it and I saw a very familiar name in the lineup..I figured it could not be too bad..I was blown away!!
Flotsam and Jetsam 👌👍🤘JASON
con dos álbumes tan alucinantes como el Doomsday y este No Place aun no comprendo porque no se convirtieron en los verdaderos amos del thrash.
Siiii!!! Es lo que yo e SIEMPRE dicho!!! Igual de pensamiento a cerca de los dos discos Doomsday y este mero...
Debes de ser un gran fan verdad amigo? Te he visto en 3 albums de flotsam and jetsam, El THE COLD, UGLY NOISE y ahora en este jaja. Saludos desme Mexico. Gran banda flotsam and jetsam con discos maravillosos y de los mas grandes de thrash con uno de los mejores, si no es que el mejor vocalista que el thrash pudo tener en su genero
@@jesusjimenezcelis6381 si, soy cada día mas fanático de estos chicos... Amo su música.
English please on the internet.
Un clasico del thrash
wow
Thank you, I am discovering this band. The first seconds make me feel Metallica for instru and Death Angel for the vocal.
Flotsam and Jetsam is giants and very underatted band ...
Absolutely agree on the Death Angel reference on the vocals.
Highly under rated album
At least they get more recognition compare to old days...
A solid old school trash band ! Very regular and always go !
Check their nnew album blood in the water in my channel and all their discography.
Команда,шик! И блеск....
Жалко что не одаценили....партии гетары.... супер
100%!!!=» ✊🌠💎🌠👍🎯💬🎧💿⬆️🎼⬆️📀💯🎁✨🎵✨🫠‼️
I've met FJ with two songs that I've recorded on the radio on that year.
underrated gem.its like a 80s iron maiden and 80s metallica level mashup on steroids
Flots Til' Death!
,,obra prima oitentista,,tinha em k7,,, terremoto oldschoooooollllll....
Классный альбом!
🔥🔥🔥-мощно, жестко, грандиозно👍👍👍
Saw them in ‘88 at Sundance in Bayshore. Front row I was pounding my fist on Eric A.K.’s sneaker...and he wouldn’t move his foot. Like he liked it! I must have punched it 30 times before he moved.
Wow... Holly cow....how lucky you sre that you saw them in their beginning of their career. It was in the tour of no place roght?
One question...do you realize back in the day how big album this gonna be through time?
These Guys Being From My Hometown I got to Meet Eric when he walked into a Gas station I was working at, he gave me an Autograph on the Back of a Powerball ticket and Signed it ‘Flotz till it Rotz’ this was late 1996, it was also the year my First Daughter was Born
Bro the album cover looks badass🤘
Yeah i think one the best album covers ever created in metal album...as you look the cover you thinking how dangerous would be the music...
@@xtremeunderratedmusic yeah definitely, especially when the Title track first pops on
Which I honestly think Is the best track on the album
@@oscarluque4098 i like also dreams of death, i live you die, hard on you, n.e terror, escape grom within,misguided fortune.....wow I mention almost all the album.... hahaha
@@xtremeunderratedmusic Also great and badass Tracks🤘
ever hear the band "heathen" from the same era......check them out....they werent popular but kicked ass
Truth!
Heathen Debut Album was amazing melodic speed metal, second Album wasn't even speed anymore... But later they returned big style...
The first track reminds me of Fight Fire With Fire. So far so good.
In the vibe you mean or technically?
@@xtremeunderratedmusic a bit of both but definitely not the vocals, its not identical by any stretch of the imagination and it's the first time I've listened to them. I'll be listening to more though.
@@neilmurrell281 i understand...Eric A.K. is one of the best vocalists in metal scene...you must support them if you now listen yo them.They deserve it.
@@xtremeunderratedmusic I'll certainly listen to their music, I'd heard of them from when Jason joined Metallica and have listened to a bit of his stuff since he left.
@@neilmurrell281 Same here, I heard of flotz in high school from Metallica haha. I got more of an Eternal Nightmare by Vio-lence vibe from the production though
NPFD was the big one..but NE Terror is my fave...hell, aint a bad track on this.
Oh my God. Alf.
I think the clear break of No Place got hijacked in 89 by Leatherwolf - Wicked Ways. Took me 33 years to find out, you're welcome 😊.
masterpiece ! is it the original 1988 or from 2014 ?
Is the original 1988 album man
MASTERPIECE ALBUM!!Have the Vinyl! TRASH LEGENDS!!!
Check and the last albums of flotsam in my channel..
THRASH legends, of course.
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Vocals remind me of Overkill or a heavier Geoff Tate from Queensryche. So bass guitar was still a thing in 1988? Who knew??
If you listen to Jason Newsted's bass-playing on Flotsam and Jetsam's debut "Doomsday For the Deceiver", you will understand why AJFA was a mega-disappointment for me.
Vocals always had some similarities to Death Angel's vocals, to my ear, too.
F and J is 1 MASSIVE band !!!!
Hope you support their new releases which are amazing....
My opinion but they can they can rival any of the so-called big four thrash bands ever as a matter of fact I think they're they're better than one or two of the so-called for Big four Easy .
Yeah, I listen to much more of their body of work than Metallica (they have entire albums I NEVER listen to). I'd personally put Testament and Exodus, possibly Overkill, as thrash bands with the kind of longevity of quality of albums for the "larger" of the early thrash bands. Death Angel, too. Some of those bands' latest albums have been among their best albums.
No problem hearing this bassist
one of the best...especially in album when the storm comes down
up the bass...down the vocals
Well, yes.. No Newsted.
He played with Prong on their 3rd record. Heavy on the bass.
@@xtremeunderratedmusic este es Michael Spencer y el del when the storm es Troy Gregory
I think it should be the Big 6...Big 4 plus Flotsam and Testament.
Geil❤
same as I
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flotsam and jetsam was always better than metallica...i defend that until i die
Count me in... to the death !!!
Two different bands ..BUT one of the few bands Metallica represented by wearing their t shirts ..they respected them bc they knew they were just as good
bazı gruplar vardır bir kıvılcım ile bütün bir metal camiasını aydınlatırlar ... kendi klasmanlarında bir baş yapıt olur.... bir albüm ki kalitesine erişilemez zamanının ötesinde bu öyle bir album... benzer durumlar annihilator- metal church - pretoctor gibi gruplarda da geçerli.... ama bu ayrı...
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What does P.A.A.B. stand for?
agree F40PH-2CAT fully
Да крутой альбом,и не такой попсовый как металлика :)
Jason plays here?
He played on their debut "Doomsday For the Deceiver", not on this album.
@@MissLoonasSpeech thanks.
Original version of I Live you Die (pre Doomsday...release..Metal Massacre VII ) is Waay better than this version. 😉🤘
Newsted, and this band, proved it's worth and value to the metal world. The shit metallica put through Jason through is completely fucked up. Newsted had already become iconic at this stage. Great albums, great band!!!