Tbh its a mixed bag for me, while I do agree Nintendo is depending WAYYY too much on ports and so called "remasters" this gen with the Switch. Games like Mario Odyssey, Zelda BOTW, and even Animal Crossing were unique and revolutionary from what we've seen in the gaming industry today.
Especially the last one by Game Freak. Interestingly enough, before the gameplay was released and the majority giving backlash, someone actually knew that Game Freak's "We won't include universal dex because we wanted to make better animations and sprite models" statement was a lie knowing that the animations were most lazy.
There was a time in my life when I felt like there were too many good video games coming out at a rapid pace. It was to the point where it felt like I didn't have enough time or money to experience everything I wanted. Now I consider myself lucky if I get even one new game in a year. I think the last game I felt hyped for was Astral Chain, and that was almost two years ago. I know that the pandemic slowed things down, but this type of shit has been going on long before covid was ever a thing. Now I'm just going back and replaying games while I wait for something new to release. I always liked Nintendo because I felt like their games were unique compared to what the rest of the industry was doing. But recently it seems like even their recent games have been downgrades compared to their predecessors. Can't rely on any developers these days.
@@FinalBossu I don't know for instance how games like Mario Odyssey, BOTW, Ultimate, or even Animal Crossing New Horizons are downgrades. Sounds like a hardass to me.
Damn I felt Shokio's anger... And he's Not lying it's the gamers fault for hyping up unnecessary to be disappointed by the publisher's product which is sadly for the past two decades Paste, Copy & Repeat and now because of the circumstances we're in it's more or less
Today's gaming industry is more so about numbers and greed Than actual quality and fun, The gaming industry as a whole needs to go on strike and protest due to video gaming becoming stale, decreasing in actual quality and fun.
I agree with some of this. Games/franchises have started to lose their identity trying to give people more experiences that are more homogenous, and that diminishes unique experiences across the board. However, I think people legitimately want this and want it because they are comfortable with the experiences they get from the games that are coming out. Also it is a reason we see so many Remakes, Remasters, and ports. Nostalgia and Comfortability reign supreme because they offer comfort and familiarity. The second they see something original they either love it or hate it and developers won’t take that chance. Gamers being this way is because gaming has now changed forever, there is no going back to stuff like the 5th, 6th, or 7th generations which we grew up with and saw things be so different and change so radically so quickly, gaming has sort of settled and I think that’s how it’ll stay
which gives me a fear that when gamers eventually burn out of this ( and gaming entirely ), the industry wont even attempt to recover it and just die off at some point, gaming will probably become subscribe per game, per month, with only skin updates to them and no new entries in any franchise
Shadow Hearts came out in 2001. That was the last game I really got invested in. These days they could put a hundred times the content in, but they don't, and I really don't understand why.
Companies fell into comfort zone in game design since they feel innovation cost money, but they have no problem blowing up their budget in fluff and marketing schemes.
Today's gaming industry is more so about numbers and greed Than actual quality and fun, The gaming community as a whole needs to go on strike and protest due to video gaming becoming stale, decreasing in actual quality and fun.
It all went downhill once gaming went mainstream and casuals accepted micro-transactions. If they’re willing to accept being nickel-and-dimed, they’ll accept anything. Just look at modern Marvel and Star Wars series. The movies weren’t masterpieces but decent movies. But these news series will contradict established canon or characters will make choices out of character just so the writer doesn’t have to rewrite their script and people are gobbling it up.
@@zack19192 Lol I’m no hipster but whatever makes you feel good I guess. Seems like you’ve never heard of “watering things down for the masses” before. It’s not a new concept.
@TSnintendogamer That's fine and true but we can't be ok when the best on tap at E3 is literally cinematic trailers for indies remasters PC ports, other re-releases and just stuff we know with our experience is most likely going to be trash. This is not how you excite the masses. That all said it's pretty premature to be this upset at E3 when there are still other platforms to make announcements. Even if PS isn't going to make a traditional announcement at E3 isn't Nintendo still scheduled? I mean granted there likely to disappoint, but still they're not small fish.
every single time a new open world rpg is annoced i just think: why should i play this when i can just replay new vegas for the 10th time? this is why i mostly started going back and playing games i never got around to.
I feel like the 6th generation of gaming was the best when developers tried new ideas. Now we get the same game with features removed with a new skin on it. FF origins is Dark Souls Final Fantasy.
6th gen was the golden era of 3d gaming ... Not 3d glasses ich, but games that take place in a 3d world. Controller that worked, Interesting worlds, And overall a big push for testing what is possible, with varied fresh ideas. Heck, 6th laid the foundation for 80% of all 3D franchises that became standard to see under gen 7-8-9
@@calebproductions1264 Today's gaming industry is more so about numbers and greed Than actual quality and fun, The gaming community as a whole needs to go on strike and protest due to video gaming becoming stale, decreasing in actual quality and fun.
Shokio you uploaded this video 3 times, but anyhow. . . . "Stop buying Bethesda games, and I am not talking about Doom, stop following the hype, it is all smoke and mirrors." I feel you Shoke, the LAST 'Bethesda' game that I purchased is Doom Eternal. I NEVER pay much attention to E3 and I didn't even bother watching it myself other than listening to 7th Level reacting to it. Also it is as Bond says "never pre-order games" and I have been following what he says for YEARS, I do not follow the so-called "triple-A" company activity because they are not Triple-A in my eyes. Most gamers nowadays are fickle to the core.
Within the first five seconds, I agree, it also is aggravating to see the clear anti-consumerism and anti-union rhetoric that a lot of these AAA games companies are taking part in while the people *still* somehow fall for the same shit. Its basically the story of corporate America at this point.
Indie games are so......? 1. Artsy Fartsy super high fart sniffing left " hey GuyzzZ I want change the world and make society better just like yoouu!!, Am I part of good boys club yet!? " 2. Some cheeky simulator nonsense 3. Rare good Action game or Turn based RPG diamond in the rough
I haven't watched this fully but I am to agree that the gamers are a part of the problem, but from a slightly different angle. I think a lot of innovation gets snuffed from two sources, the gamers who do not welcome change to series or entertain new ideas and publishers who take that result and enforce developers to make same-y concepts. At that point creativity becomes incremental and only creates a gimmick factor that doesn't last long and ultimately doesn't shift the paradigm. Part of getting the same games over and over again comes from the idea that if it isn't broken, don't fix it. The problem is, you'd expect that saying to become true that once it does become "broken" there will be efforts to fix it - and that generally is what will happen, but the "fix" is more like menial patchwork with minimally small new ideas like I said above. On the surface it looks great, many times re-hashed and well-executed newer gameplay is praised for feeling new and refreshing, but it only goes so far from being the solution to its predecessor. The best case forward to solve this problem is more attempts to do something brand new, but even that's not a perfect a solution because gamers have a recursive nature of constantly falling back into their comfortable games of past. Many times you hear "I just go back to [insert old title here]." Or reinforce praise for older games that it becomes a target audience for what should be made moving forward. That's not to say throw anything out there for the sake of trying to be new and different, because in the end execution is key. But gamers need to be more open-minded and willing to leave their comfort zone of familiarity. Sooner or later there will be no excuses.
E3 GAMES The division Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Breakpoint Tom Clancy's Wildland Evolve Anthem No man sky Fallout 76 Destiny Titanfall Watchdog Cyberpunk Crackdown 3 Sea of Thieves Mass effect andromed For honor Tony hawk 5
Over The Years Video Gaming in General has decreased in Quality rather than increase. Video Gaming in General NEEDS to come back to being on an elevated plateau and elevated ground instead of being deep down in the sewer dumps. 4 Qualities That Video Gaming in General should REALLY be about are Fun Factor, Compelling Factor, Captivating Factor and Fantastic Quality and Absolutely nothing less Than Those 4 Qualities put together, Period Dot Dash. I am 36 years old by the way, Black American male.
The best games that have come out in the last few years are Animal Crossing: New Horizons, Metroid Dread, and Ghostwire Tokyo. I haven't played Elden Ring. I'm still catching up on Demon Souls/Dark Souls/Bloodborne. 😅
video gaming has gone from being a platform for those who want to offer new ideas. To become a place for companies to produce products for the consumer to eat up. In other words, everyone has copied the EA food chain strategy...Push out ..Let say FIFA (Number)= People get hyped and they make 2b.
I feel this is somewhat of an exaggeration. I mean yeah, some series like COD and Pokemon suffer from this. But I really think you need to broaden your horizons and play some indies. Also there's always been that one oversaturated genre every generation: 4th gen- 2D Plats 5th gen- 3D Plats 6th gen- GTA style open worlds. 7th gen- Realistic FPS 8th gen- Quirky online shooters But again, there was way more to look for and the 9th gen has hardly begun. Also, apart from Pokemon, I think Nintendo actually has the opposite problem in that they tend to change games too much.
Perfect example is people getting hyped about this fucking GTA trilogy, RIGHT AFTER having a meltdown about "enhanced" version, gamers are herd thinkers, literal cattle. I can play GTA III, Vice City and San andreas on my Ps2.
This is exactly why I hate Babylons Fall and the Avengers game; Square Enix are so desperate for a live service game they keep making them over and over completely wasting Crystal Dynamics and Platinum.
Nah let's be real back in the day it was just as bad. The market was oversaturated with shitty movie and TV show tie ins that barely passed for games. We don't enjoy games as much anymore because we're no longer children.
@@DiveBombRebel Yeah most people that buy games do not treat the quality of the game the same as most people treat the quality of the food that they eat.
This is why games like jet set radio, powerstone, ssx tricky, ready 2 rumble, i ninja, def jam, fable ,and platformers need to come back. Why every new ip a fps or fake deep movie wannabe?
I don’t think so, to be honest. Not unless the casual gamer starts getting standards. Because all the hardcore gamers could leave and while it would make a dent, those AAA studios will keep on trucking. The gaming audience (casuals/hardcore) have already accepted micro-transactions, loot boxes, day/week 1 patches, and unfinished (buggy or lacking content) in their games. How much more needs to happen before they get a wake-up call? EA makes more money from the mtx in their basketball game than the sale of the game itself (around $23 out of $60). You’ll get pushback being called “entitled/whiny” if you dare ask for better standards or even equal quality to games from 10-20 years ago. There really is nothing these companies can do that won’t turn people off from buying their games. Cyberpunk 2077 might have gotten flak (for once in the industry) and sure it was from a developer people trusted, but it also wasn’t an existing franchise. If a Bethesda game was that broken (ex. Fallout 76) people will still buy and make excuses for it. People are way too forgiving despite it being one the most expensive form of entertainment.
Gaming crash happened because nobody bought games. These generic ass games are still selling millions upon millions of copies every year. We’re not crashing anytime soon.
Although I started gaming since the 7th generation I gave up on modern gaming during the 8th generation and so far the 9th generation is worse and yeah I own a Wii U ps4 and Nintendo switch but I barely touch them because they lack the replayability that previous console generations have. So yeah 8th gen and onward is terrible and when I say this these people look at me like I’m crazy or something and the only reason why people say the newer ones are better is only because the graphics are better and I don’t plan on even getting ps5, Xbox series x, or the next gen Nintendo console if they make one.
7th gen may be the generation that started many of the negative trends that became standard during 8th gen, but 7th was truly a great Generation for how much it focused on gaming.
Shokio needs to broaden his horizons. Too much innovation on the Indie side and the innovation found in GoW4, HZD, Botw and Mario Odyssey to be saying this with such certainty
Because he's a bit of a hypocrite in that respect. He buys and enjoys Nintendo games which are largely unchanged and lower quality with marked up prices. That higher MSRP makes Nintendo fans believe those games are worth it when they hardly ever change.
@@VariantAEC Me, I am NOT much of a Nintendo Fan due to Nintendo's notorious track record for making underpowered hardware. Nintendo as a video game company REALLY does do lack luster stuff that is quite pitiful when in reality They can do FAR BETTER and They've got the resources to do FAR BETTER too, Period Dot Dash. I am 36 years old by the way, Black American male.
@@VoidDweller86 I used to like Nintendo, but that's probably the nostalgia talking. Of course in the early 90s SNES was the very first game console I played and GameBoy was the very first handheld system I laid hands on before that point I was on massive slow PCs only. When PS came around there was no going back to Nintendo but they managed to reel me back in with the 3DS and I picked up a N3DSXL I skipped GameCube, Wii U and haven't yet seen a need to pick up a Switch. I only picked up the N3DSXL because Nintendo artificially locked SNES games behind owning that specific system. I have what I wanted and haven't looked back. Their new rent-our-classics scheme makes me happy that I picked up the N3DSXL when I did, but it also annoys me that Nintendo die-hards can't see they're being [redacted]. I can't say I don't ever see myself buying any Nintendo devices again, but I can say with confidence that I don't see a need to buy the Switch and I don't see that changing. PlayStation changed gaming for me ruining PC gaming even. Some of my most beloved PC games were made by PS devs as I learned later in life (PS had released some 1st party games on PC & PS in the 90s).
Shokio I been subbed for like 15 years now lol, hope your brother is doing well. Regardless, there is definitely a consolidation of genre and gameplay elements in the industry. Anything interesting is almost exclusively in the indie space. Many many gamers are really braindead goons, these people LOVE to be nickel and dimed. But it's like any industry, you can dislike anti-consumer practices or boring shit in practice, but formulaic marvel movies and generic hollywood reboots make billions upon billions. People are so excited for gamepass but it's going to be AWFUL for games in the same way that Netflix was and is for film. It's all just "content" churned out to satiate an increasingly bored and beat down society. But for that, we need to look at the political and economic landscape. Until something there changes, all art will just be content and all engagement will just be "fandom".
And btw, I'm not liking the direction Nintendo is going either. It mirrors Disney's media monopoly in many ways, as far as model for your content is concerned. increasingly trying to be family friendly, less innovation, leaning on proven franchises like Mario and Animal Crossing while forgetting anything that's "niche" (AKA it only can sell 2 million copies LMAO) like Metroid or F-Zero. Plus artificial scarcity, no communication to fans, etc.
Here is the problem. Suggest something. Don't buy bethesda? Then buy what?! What is the alternative? Suggest something that is similar. What is gonna scratch that itch? You basically say don't play things you like. Play stuff you don't care about. Play my bull-ish mascot or hood gun game. You want us to be miserable so you can be happy. What's the alternative? What's the competition? Hmm? Bethesda had two chances with fallout. The quality dipped on 4. Everyone loves skyrim. If you got hyped over fallout 76 nothing commercial didn't wait to see what it actually was and we're disappointed you need to learn to pay attention. The only thing that was off about cyberpunk hype was NPC's having a life. Everything else they promised was everyday average open world stuff.
@@doclouis4236 Pretty sure that's already happened. Either way I don't really care. I'm looking forward to back 4 blood, stalker 2, and the evil dead game. Also sons of the forest even though that wasn't shown at e3.
@TSnintendogamer That's only if the majority of people decide to vote with their wallet and the majority of people don't really care about micro-transactions or whatever is going in video games today.
@@lemonlimelukey Over The Years Video Gaming in General has decreased in Quality rather than increase. Video Gaming in General NEEDS to come back to being on an elevated plateau and elevated ground instead of being deep down in the sewer dumps. 4 Qualities That Video Gaming in General should REALLY be about are Fun Factor, Compelling Factor, Captivating Factor and Fantastic Quality and Absolutely nothing less Than Those 4 Qualities put together, Period Dot Dash. I am 36 years old by the way, Black American male.
you are guilty of this too, you buy cod and shit, also alot of the games you mentioned people shouldn't buy for completely different reasons, like cyberpunk wasn't samy at all just broken at launch
And this is why the Switch is my most disliked Nintendo console. Nintendo's games are largely trash on it. Fire Emblem is basically the only game that improved on its franchise. Mario did okay with Odyssey and the Bowser's Fury half of the 3D World port, but that one is still just a half sized game for the most part. BotW was pretty innovative too, but it lacks a lot of the optimization I go to Nintendo for. That said, the Switch is probably still the console I've played most at this point. Weeb as hell, but Atelier has been a breath of fresh air for me with very trophy characters, but changing up mechanics every sub series and even between entries in single series. Otherwise it's been all Indies or other non triple A devs for me. Even going down my Switch's software screen, the only other standouts are Astral Chain and Monster Hunter Rise only cause of the post launch support actually adding the at launch missing content pretty quickly. Even that launched unfinished, but at least it can be considered a full game after 2 months. I guess Dragon Quest 11, but that's one game that got launched like 4 times and is part of a franchise that defines itself on being iterative and traditional. Is nice that the Switch version let's you go back and forth between pixel art and modern design though, a feature I've actually wanted to see for a long time, so I'll give it the honorable mention for that, I guess. Overall, yeah, past 2 generations have sucked. Thank God for indies. Even if most are stuck on classic formulas, at least they try to innovate on them, sometimes
O.k. This is the Shokio I subscribed to all those years ago.....
"Rant Shokio"
lmao
the peak era of gaming was the gamecube xbox ps2 gba era
Agreed!
Sup, shokio. I don't watch stuff on twitch so it's good seeing you on UA-cam man.
This reminds me a lot of the movie industry. The same shit is released over and over again and people watch it.
And yes, that goes for Nintendo too. I'm not sure it was included in this except, but even Nintendo has been failing on this front.
BTW, you uploaded the same video twice.
So the ppl who were yelling about Pokémon Sword and Shield were right.
Nintendo isn't releasing many games at all lately so they don't have to worry about this issue 🤣🤣🤣
Tbh its a mixed bag for me, while I do agree Nintendo is depending WAYYY too much on ports and so called "remasters" this gen with the Switch. Games like Mario Odyssey, Zelda BOTW, and even Animal Crossing were unique and revolutionary from what we've seen in the gaming industry today.
@@nagari5067 maybe that's for the best lol
Damn this Shoke rant was EPIC
You knew that Starfailed would fail.
The new Pokémon games in a nutshell lmao
One the biggest perpetrators tbh
Especially the last one by Game Freak. Interestingly enough, before the gameplay was released and the majority giving backlash, someone actually knew that Game Freak's "We won't include universal dex because we wanted to make better animations and sprite models" statement was a lie knowing that the animations were most lazy.
The more casual nintendo games in general, AC mario party, tennis everyone says they feel lifeless
@TSnintendogamer theres casual games that have a lot of soul into it
The Pokémon Mystery Dungeon games have more soul into them than the main games, and those games are underrated.
There was a time in my life when I felt like there were too many good video games coming out at a rapid pace. It was to the point where it felt like I didn't have enough time or money to experience everything I wanted. Now I consider myself lucky if I get even one new game in a year. I think the last game I felt hyped for was Astral Chain, and that was almost two years ago. I know that the pandemic slowed things down, but this type of shit has been going on long before covid was ever a thing. Now I'm just going back and replaying games while I wait for something new to release. I always liked Nintendo because I felt like their games were unique compared to what the rest of the industry was doing. But recently it seems like even their recent games have been downgrades compared to their predecessors. Can't rely on any developers these days.
Your complaint on Nintendo doesn’t really make much sense since they have been taking risks.
@@achaudhari101 are you like not capable of using your brain you mindless fanboy?
@@FinalBossu I don't know for instance how games like Mario Odyssey, BOTW, Ultimate, or even Animal Crossing New Horizons are downgrades. Sounds like a hardass to me.
Lol bro… when you went off I had flash backs of blackbuster Xbox gamers rant 😂
The waterbottles example had me
Damn I felt Shokio's anger... And he's Not lying it's the gamers fault for hyping up unnecessary to be disappointed by the publisher's product which is sadly for the past two decades Paste, Copy & Repeat and now because of the circumstances we're in it's more or less
Today's gaming industry is more so about numbers and greed Than actual quality and fun, The gaming industry as a whole needs to go on strike and protest due to video gaming becoming stale, decreasing in actual quality and fun.
I agree with some of this. Games/franchises have started to lose their identity trying to give people more experiences that are more homogenous, and that diminishes unique experiences across the board. However, I think people legitimately want this and want it because they are comfortable with the experiences they get from the games that are coming out. Also it is a reason we see so many Remakes, Remasters, and ports. Nostalgia and Comfortability reign supreme because they offer comfort and familiarity. The second they see something original they either love it or hate it and developers won’t take that chance. Gamers being this way is because gaming has now changed forever, there is no going back to stuff like the 5th, 6th, or 7th generations which we grew up with and saw things be so different and change so radically so quickly, gaming has sort of settled and I think that’s how it’ll stay
which gives me a fear that when gamers eventually burn out of this ( and gaming entirely ), the industry wont even attempt to recover it and just die off
at some point, gaming will probably become subscribe per game, per month, with only skin updates to them and no new entries in any franchise
Miss these rants
Shadow Hearts came out in 2001. That was the last game I really got invested in. These days they could put a hundred times the content in, but they don't, and I really don't understand why.
Companies fell into comfort zone in game design since they feel innovation cost money, but they have no problem blowing up their budget in fluff and marketing schemes.
Today's gaming industry is more so about numbers and greed Than actual quality and fun, The gaming community as a whole needs to go on strike and protest due to video gaming becoming stale, decreasing in actual quality and fun.
Old man shok bout to spit some truth
"It's either the life is strange genre, it's either shovel knight, or its earthbound"
I now respect Shokio
I said this was the safest fucking E3 lol like EVER
My record is absolutely stellar. I've only ever pre ordered God of War, and I'm willing to bet everything that Eldin Ring will live up to the hype.
Who's going to support these titles when they do make them?
It all went downhill once gaming went mainstream and casuals accepted micro-transactions. If they’re willing to accept being nickel-and-dimed, they’ll accept anything. Just look at modern Marvel and Star Wars series. The movies weren’t masterpieces but decent movies. But these news series will contradict established canon or characters will make choices out of character just so the writer doesn’t have to rewrite their script and people are gobbling it up.
Cry more hipster nerd.
Disagreed on the marvel films when you know what you're watching it's a different perspective. Avengers films were great.
@@zack19192 Lol I’m no hipster but whatever makes you feel good I guess. Seems like you’ve never heard of “watering things down for the masses” before. It’s not a new concept.
@TSnintendogamer
That's fine and true but we can't be ok when the best on tap at E3 is literally cinematic trailers for indies remasters PC ports, other re-releases and just stuff we know with our experience is most likely going to be trash. This is not how you excite the masses.
That all said it's pretty premature to be this upset at E3 when there are still other platforms to make announcements. Even if PS isn't going to make a traditional announcement at E3 isn't Nintendo still scheduled? I mean granted there likely to disappoint, but still they're not small fish.
Holds up now more than ever.
In moments like this i wish i didnt work on weekends lmao
Very understandable video, especially coming from shokios era of gaming
When you get your own development studio, what sort of games would you like to develop?
I will make open world games with a lot of detail, good physics, a lot of things you can do, smart npcs and good storyline’s
every single time a new open world rpg is annoced i just think: why should i play this when i can just replay new vegas for the 10th time?
this is why i mostly started going back and playing games i never got around to.
Bro I'm trying to make sauce for Pad Thai and I keep spilling because I can't stop shaking from laughter
I feel like the 6th generation of gaming was the best when developers tried new ideas. Now we get the same game with features removed with a new skin on it. FF origins is Dark Souls Final Fantasy.
6th gen was the golden era of 3d gaming ... Not 3d glasses ich, but games that take place in a 3d world.
Controller that worked, Interesting worlds, And overall a big push for testing what is possible, with varied fresh ideas.
Heck, 6th laid the foundation for 80% of all 3D franchises that became standard to see under gen 7-8-9
6th gen will always be an underrated gen, we had so many actual good video games back then, now look at the stupid shit we get nowadays.
@@calebproductions1264 Today's gaming industry is more so about numbers and greed Than actual quality and fun, The gaming community as a whole needs to go on strike and protest due to video gaming becoming stale, decreasing in actual quality and fun.
Shokio you uploaded this video 3 times, but anyhow. . . .
"Stop buying Bethesda games, and I am not talking about Doom, stop following the hype, it is all smoke and mirrors."
I feel you Shoke, the LAST 'Bethesda' game that I purchased is Doom Eternal. I NEVER pay much attention to E3 and I didn't even bother watching it myself other than listening to 7th Level reacting to it. Also it is as Bond says "never pre-order games" and I have been following what he says for YEARS, I do not follow the so-called "triple-A" company activity because they are not Triple-A in my eyes. Most gamers nowadays are fickle to the core.
Agree. Play VR there are so much new Ideas right now. Much stuff that you have not seen before! More people should support that games.
Within the first five seconds, I agree, it also is aggravating to see the clear anti-consumerism and anti-union rhetoric that a lot of these AAA games companies are taking part in while the people *still* somehow fall for the same shit. Its basically the story of corporate America at this point.
Indie games are so......?
1. Artsy Fartsy super high fart sniffing left " hey GuyzzZ I want change the world and make society better just like yoouu!!, Am I part of good boys club yet!? "
2. Some cheeky simulator nonsense
3. Rare good Action game or Turn based RPG diamond in the rough
I haven't watched this fully but I am to agree that the gamers are a part of the problem, but from a slightly different angle. I think a lot of innovation gets snuffed from two sources, the gamers who do not welcome change to series or entertain new ideas and publishers who take that result and enforce developers to make same-y concepts. At that point creativity becomes incremental and only creates a gimmick factor that doesn't last long and ultimately doesn't shift the paradigm. Part of getting the same games over and over again comes from the idea that if it isn't broken, don't fix it. The problem is, you'd expect that saying to become true that once it does become "broken" there will be efforts to fix it - and that generally is what will happen, but the "fix" is more like menial patchwork with minimally small new ideas like I said above. On the surface it looks great, many times re-hashed and well-executed newer gameplay is praised for feeling new and refreshing, but it only goes so far from being the solution to its predecessor. The best case forward to solve this problem is more attempts to do something brand new, but even that's not a perfect a solution because gamers have a recursive nature of constantly falling back into their comfortable games of past. Many times you hear "I just go back to [insert old title here]." Or reinforce praise for older games that it becomes a target audience for what should be made moving forward. That's not to say throw anything out there for the sake of trying to be new and different, because in the end execution is key. But gamers need to be more open-minded and willing to leave their comfort zone of familiarity. Sooner or later there will be no excuses.
"smoke and mirrors, bells and whistles"
lol
E3 GAMES
The division
Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Breakpoint
Tom Clancy's Wildland
Evolve
Anthem
No man sky
Fallout 76
Destiny
Titanfall
Watchdog
Cyberpunk
Crackdown 3
Sea of Thieves
Mass effect andromed
For honor
Tony hawk 5
Good examples.
People need to support quality not dog 💩
I live for this content.☠️
Every indie RPG looks like fucking Octopath Traveler.
Uhhh what? I WISH they all looked that good
Every indie game that exists looks and plays like shit.
Video games have been on a decline in quality since 2008
Over The Years Video Gaming in General has decreased in Quality rather than increase.
Video Gaming in General NEEDS to come back to being on an elevated plateau and elevated ground instead of being deep down in the sewer dumps.
4 Qualities That Video Gaming in General should REALLY be about are Fun Factor, Compelling Factor, Captivating Factor and Fantastic Quality and Absolutely nothing less Than Those 4 Qualities put together, Period Dot Dash.
I am 36 years old by the way, Black American male.
Top ten Shokio rant
The best games that have come out in the last few years are Animal Crossing: New Horizons, Metroid Dread, and Ghostwire Tokyo. I haven't played Elden Ring. I'm still catching up on Demon Souls/Dark Souls/Bloodborne. 😅
This is relevant months later.... The new Sonic game being shown
You GuyzzZ like Breff uvv duhh Why-Uld right?!!
Me: thanks, I hate it.
Mainstream games, music and movies are total trash nowadays
video gaming has gone from being a platform for those who want to offer new ideas.
To become a place for companies to produce products for the consumer to eat up.
In other words, everyone has copied the EA food chain strategy...Push out ..Let say FIFA (Number)= People get hyped and they make 2b.
At least Nintendo still has their edge I’m excited for games coming out for the switch
Uhhh Nintendo makes half assed pokemon games which fall under shokios complaints
🤢
The gaming community as a whole needs to go on strike and protest due to video gaming becoming stale, decreasing in actual quality and fun.
I feel this is somewhat of an exaggeration. I mean yeah, some series like COD and Pokemon suffer from this. But I really think you need to broaden your horizons and play some indies.
Also there's always been that one oversaturated genre every generation:
4th gen- 2D Plats
5th gen- 3D Plats
6th gen- GTA style open worlds.
7th gen- Realistic FPS
8th gen- Quirky online shooters
But again, there was way more to look for and the 9th gen has hardly begun.
Also, apart from Pokemon, I think Nintendo actually has the opposite problem in that they tend to change games too much.
i'd say 8th gen was also a huge oversaturation in open world games.
I would never waste my life playing shitty indie games, not even one.
Perfect example is people getting hyped about this fucking GTA trilogy, RIGHT AFTER having a meltdown about "enhanced" version, gamers are herd thinkers, literal cattle. I can play GTA III, Vice City and San andreas on my Ps2.
Boy now look what we got into with GTA.
Shok on the mark as always
This is exactly why I hate Babylons Fall and the Avengers game; Square Enix are so desperate for a live service game they keep making them over and over completely wasting Crystal Dynamics and Platinum.
I just want SSX Tricky 2 man
Complains about games are all the same, yet has a rant video on how death stranding isn’t good. It was actually a very unique experience
10:20 lmfao
Liked the video in first 30 seconds for the sentiment
Nah let's be real back in the day it was just as bad. The market was oversaturated with shitty movie and TV show tie ins that barely passed for games. We don't enjoy games as much anymore because we're no longer children.
@TSnintendogamer Sounds like nostalgia factor.
Also, I feel like we absolutely need to try to convince peeps to stop fuckin preordering these things
Good luck with that, those idiots will never listen.
You don’t have to put down apes. Apes should be respected.
Shut up
To answer your question at 6:35, Food is important and Video games aren't important.
@TSnintendogamer They aren't. You can live your entire life just fine without playing a single video game.
@TSnintendogamer No that just means they're a hobby you enjoy. That doesn't mean they're important in the grand scheme of things.
@@DiveBombRebel Yeah most people that buy games do not treat the quality of the game the same as most people treat the quality of the food that they eat.
@@DarkstarArchangel I mean they shouldn't. Bad food affects your health. Games that are a ripoff don't do anything to you physically or mentally.
@@DiveBombRebel It will financially. Plus, business practices could affect any industry the more common that practice goes.
8:35 😂😂😂💀💀💀
This is why games like jet set radio, powerstone, ssx tricky, ready 2 rumble, i ninja, def jam, fable ,and platformers need to come back. Why every new ip a fps or fake deep movie wannabe?
gaming crash happened back in the 80s with Atari it can happen again
I don’t think so, to be honest. Not unless the casual gamer starts getting standards. Because all the hardcore gamers could leave and while it would make a dent, those AAA studios will keep on trucking. The gaming audience (casuals/hardcore) have already accepted micro-transactions, loot boxes, day/week 1 patches, and unfinished (buggy or lacking content) in their games. How much more needs to happen before they get a wake-up call? EA makes more money from the mtx in their basketball game than the sale of the game itself (around $23 out of $60). You’ll get pushback being called “entitled/whiny” if you dare ask for better standards or even equal quality to games from 10-20 years ago.
There really is nothing these companies can do that won’t turn people off from buying their games. Cyberpunk 2077 might have gotten flak (for once in the industry) and sure it was from a developer people trusted, but it also wasn’t an existing franchise. If a Bethesda game was that broken (ex. Fallout 76) people will still buy and make excuses for it. People are way too forgiving despite it being one the most expensive form of entertainment.
@@mrshmuga9 yeah its def not gonna happen casual gamers will not get taste im just saying it could happen but yeah i doubt it too
@TSnintendogamer yeah they prob will
Gaming crash happened because nobody bought games.
These generic ass games are still selling millions upon millions of copies every year.
We’re not crashing anytime soon.
@@mrshmuga9 The Gaming Community as a whole NEEDS to Go On Strike and Protest due to video gamings' ever decreasing in Quality, Period Dot Dash.
Although I started gaming since the 7th generation I gave up on modern gaming during the 8th generation and so far the 9th generation is worse and yeah I own a Wii U ps4 and Nintendo switch but I barely touch them because they lack the replayability that previous console generations have. So yeah 8th gen and onward is terrible and when I say this these people look at me like I’m crazy or something and the only reason why people say the newer ones are better is only because the graphics are better and I don’t plan on even getting ps5, Xbox series x, or the next gen Nintendo console if they make one.
7th gen may be the generation that started many of the negative trends that became standard during 8th gen, but 7th was truly a great Generation for how much it focused on gaming.
@@zebare726yeah I agree on that.
o but hey, its that 4k 60fps ya'll been cryin for the past 10yrs. who needs quality games when u got crystal clear grass.
Shokio needs to broaden his horizons. Too much innovation on the Indie side and the innovation found in GoW4, HZD, Botw and Mario Odyssey to be saying this with such certainty
Translation "Only buy PlayStation and Nintendo games"
We getting charged more for less content.
Facts tbh.
You didn't mention no Nintendo games
Because he's a bit of a hypocrite in that respect. He buys and enjoys Nintendo games which are largely unchanged and lower quality with marked up prices. That higher MSRP makes Nintendo fans believe those games are worth it when they hardly ever change.
@@VariantAEC Me, I am NOT much of a Nintendo Fan due to Nintendo's notorious track record for making underpowered hardware.
Nintendo as a video game company REALLY does do lack luster stuff that is quite pitiful when in reality They can do FAR BETTER and They've got the resources to do FAR BETTER too, Period Dot Dash.
I am 36 years old by the way, Black American male.
@@VoidDweller86
I used to like Nintendo, but that's probably the nostalgia talking. Of course in the early 90s SNES was the very first game console I played and GameBoy was the very first handheld system I laid hands on before that point I was on massive slow PCs only. When PS came around there was no going back to Nintendo but they managed to reel me back in with the 3DS and I picked up a N3DSXL I skipped GameCube, Wii U and haven't yet seen a need to pick up a Switch. I only picked up the N3DSXL because Nintendo artificially locked SNES games behind owning that specific system.
I have what I wanted and haven't looked back. Their new rent-our-classics scheme makes me happy that I picked up the N3DSXL when I did, but it also annoys me that Nintendo die-hards can't see they're being [redacted]. I can't say I don't ever see myself buying any Nintendo devices again, but I can say with confidence that I don't see a need to buy the Switch and I don't see that changing.
PlayStation changed gaming for me ruining PC gaming even. Some of my most beloved PC games were made by PS devs as I learned later in life (PS had released some 1st party games on PC & PS in the 90s).
Good argument mr shoke, everything is a copy of everything you know that right?
Was Outer Worlds actually one of these games, as the chat suggests it was?
it was mediocre.
more rants
You guys get hyped for cgi trailers lol
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Fairs fair Shok...bit rich for a Nintendo stan to get onto people for supporting bullshit 🤷🏾♂️
Shokio I been subbed for like 15 years now lol, hope your brother is doing well. Regardless, there is definitely a consolidation of genre and gameplay elements in the industry. Anything interesting is almost exclusively in the indie space. Many many gamers are really braindead goons, these people LOVE to be nickel and dimed. But it's like any industry, you can dislike anti-consumer practices or boring shit in practice, but formulaic marvel movies and generic hollywood reboots make billions upon billions. People are so excited for gamepass but it's going to be AWFUL for games in the same way that Netflix was and is for film. It's all just "content" churned out to satiate an increasingly bored and beat down society. But for that, we need to look at the political and economic landscape. Until something there changes, all art will just be content and all engagement will just be "fandom".
And btw, I'm not liking the direction Nintendo is going either. It mirrors Disney's media monopoly in many ways, as far as model for your content is concerned. increasingly trying to be family friendly, less innovation, leaning on proven franchises like Mario and Animal Crossing while forgetting anything that's "niche" (AKA it only can sell 2 million copies LMAO) like Metroid or F-Zero. Plus artificial scarcity, no communication to fans, etc.
Here is the problem. Suggest something. Don't buy bethesda? Then buy what?! What is the alternative? Suggest something that is similar. What is gonna scratch that itch? You basically say don't play things you like. Play stuff you don't care about. Play my bull-ish mascot or hood gun game.
You want us to be miserable so you can be happy.
What's the alternative? What's the competition? Hmm?
Bethesda had two chances with fallout. The quality dipped on 4. Everyone loves skyrim. If you got hyped over fallout 76 nothing commercial didn't wait to see what it actually was and we're disappointed you need to learn to pay attention.
The only thing that was off about cyberpunk hype was NPC's having a life. Everything else they promised was everyday average open world stuff.
E3 was fucking trash. Whatever Nintendo shows tomorrow will easily be better
LMAOOOOO
There's a simple solution to this. Just stop playing video games if you're tired of what's coming out.
Are we going to the point of over saturation when it comes to certain game genres?
@@doclouis4236 Pretty sure that's already happened. Either way I don't really care. I'm looking forward to back 4 blood, stalker 2, and the evil dead game. Also sons of the forest even though that wasn't shown at e3.
True
@TSnintendogamer That's only if the majority of people decide to vote with their wallet and the majority of people don't really care about micro-transactions or whatever is going in video games today.
I have stopped, and it's kind of sad
games have been wayy too samey for a while now
thank god we have older games. im out here replayong gba games lmao
@@lemonlimelukey Over The Years Video Gaming in General has decreased in Quality rather than increase.
Video Gaming in General NEEDS to come back to being on an elevated plateau and elevated ground instead of being deep down in the sewer dumps.
4 Qualities That Video Gaming in General should REALLY be about are Fun Factor, Compelling Factor, Captivating Factor and Fantastic Quality and Absolutely nothing less Than Those 4 Qualities put together, Period Dot Dash.
I am 36 years old by the way, Black American male.
you are guilty of this too, you buy cod and shit, also alot of the games you mentioned people shouldn't buy for completely different reasons, like cyberpunk wasn't samy at all just broken at launch
No....I don't. I have no idea where you got that from.
And this is why the Switch is my most disliked Nintendo console. Nintendo's games are largely trash on it. Fire Emblem is basically the only game that improved on its franchise. Mario did okay with Odyssey and the Bowser's Fury half of the 3D World port, but that one is still just a half sized game for the most part. BotW was pretty innovative too, but it lacks a lot of the optimization I go to Nintendo for.
That said, the Switch is probably still the console I've played most at this point. Weeb as hell, but Atelier has been a breath of fresh air for me with very trophy characters, but changing up mechanics every sub series and even between entries in single series. Otherwise it's been all Indies or other non triple A devs for me. Even going down my Switch's software screen, the only other standouts are Astral Chain and Monster Hunter Rise only cause of the post launch support actually adding the at launch missing content pretty quickly. Even that launched unfinished, but at least it can be considered a full game after 2 months. I guess Dragon Quest 11, but that's one game that got launched like 4 times and is part of a franchise that defines itself on being iterative and traditional. Is nice that the Switch version let's you go back and forth between pixel art and modern design though, a feature I've actually wanted to see for a long time, so I'll give it the honorable mention for that, I guess.
Overall, yeah, past 2 generations have sucked. Thank God for indies. Even if most are stuck on classic formulas, at least they try to innovate on them, sometimes
Some of your complaints feel like nitpicking.