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Large Format Film Photography - 8x10 Film Photography Lenses
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- Опубліковано 14 сер 2024
- I discuss the lenses that I use on my 8x10 camera.
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my first 4x5 lens (just starting out) is also a fujinon (a 150 f/5.6). From what people have been telling me, it's a gorgeous lens, (haven't developed any film yet, but from the assessment I got, for the 200USD that I paid for it, it was a steal.
Large format lens requirements differ from medium and small format in a couple of significant aspects.
First off, as mentioned in the video. Large-format users want to be able to benefit from the movements of the adjustable camera - at least some lens rise or fall to control perspective, and some Scheimpflug tilts and swings to control the plane of focus, so they favor lenses that have a large image circle in proportion to their focal length. These will typically be Plasmat types for standard lenses (Symmar, in Schneider world and Sironar in Rodenstock). The Japanese Fujinon and Nikkor equivalents are exact copies of the German prototypes, and in most cases perform identically.
For this reason, you will rarely see Large-format users using Gaussian-types (Planar or Xenotar) or older Tessars or Xenars. The wide-open performance of these lenses is of little interest to large-format photographers, whose cameras are always on tripods anyway, and the small image circle that “just” covers the format prohibits movements, which is seen as a severe limitation.
The same applies to wide-angle lenses, where Super-Angulons and Grandagons (the older ones in f/6.8, and more recent ones in f/5.6 or f/8) offer a wide field of view, and at least a modest amount of adjustability. So you won’t see large format users with Biogon or Distagon types, once again offering excellent wide-aperture performance at the cost of image circle - opposite to the performance criteria desired for large format.
Telephoto lenses are also not often used in large format. Again, these offer the wrong trade-off, allowing for shorter physical length than their effective focal length would imply, at the cost of image circle. The large format photographer will instead favor a standard lens, in a longer focal length, and simply draw out the bellows to the required length. Bellows extensions are available if needed, and many photographers would not hesitate to use 1 meter of extension.
There are exceptions to all of the above. There ARE hand-held large-format cameras (aerial cameras in 4x5, older press cameras, also in 4x5 and “technical” folding cameras in 4x5 and even 5x7). In these cases, photographers will use the same lens types as medium formats (Planars, Xenotars, Biogons, Telephoto lenses) as they need the wide useful apertures for faster shutter speeds, and they will not be using camera movements in hand-held situations anyway.
Finally, in the late 1980s early 1990s, before everything went digital, a new generation of large-format lenses was ushered in, in the form of Super-Symmars and Apo-Sironars which are “standard” lenses, in f/5.6 with such a large image circle they could be used as wide-angle lenses on the next format. Thus the traditional “wide-angle” lens, with its size, weight and optical limitations became much less needed, and often relegated to only the most extreme use-cases.
Very informative thanks
Fujinon 300mm for 8x10
Fujinon 250 mm and 210 mm fof 5x7 and 4x5
Hi, thank you for sharing this very useful info for aspiring large format shooters like myself. Could you please tell me what crop factor to use to convert 4 x 5 and 8 x 10 into their respective 35mm field of view equivalents? Thanks!
+hsucks To find the 35mm field of view equivalent of a 4x5 lens divide by 3 (i.e. a 150mm lens on 4x5 is about the equivalent of a 50mm lens on 35mm). To find the 35mm field of view equivalent of an 8x10 lens divide by 6 (i.e. a 300mm lens on 8x10 is about the equivalent of a 50mm lens on 35mm). Hope that helps and thanks for watching!
Got it! I Googled and couldn't seem to find any info on the conversion factor (got inundated with 1.6 crop factor for crop cameras). Thanks for the help.
Oh, and I just want to add: please continue making these great video. They're _very_ helpful and _very_ well done. I'm sure you'll gain popularity (subscribers) due to the quality of your content.
Thanks again.
I have bought Chamonix F2 4x5. What lenses do you suggest for me please? I am totally a newbie in LF arena. I want to do Landscapes and architecture
I would start with a Fujinon W 250mm 6.7 (writing inside the filter ring). It has good coverage and room for movements. It is slightly wide, and won’t break the bank.
When you state the image circle size what unit of measurement are you using?
+William Kearns Millimeters
+Craig Sheaks Thanks