Nikita Kruschev’s MTs-11 Communist Party Shotgun
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- Presented to Nikita Kruschev at the opening of the 21st session of the Communist Party session in 1959, this is an example of the best sporting arms being made in the Soviet Union at the time. It is an MTs-11 (МЦ-11) side by side double gun, mechanically a Beesley-patent Purdey type with plenty of bold engraving. Only some 600 MTs-11 guns were made between 1951 and 1960, by TsKIB SOO (ЦКИБ СОО) - the Central Design and Research Bureau of Sporting and Hunting Arms located in Tula. It is a very well made gun, complete with stereotypically poor quality case, and lacquer coating the barrels for some reason.
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Engravings on the barrel:
“Gunsmiths: assembly. Teterkin V.M.
engraving Chukanov A.S.”
I hope i helped you with your curiosity
Thanks for the translation!
I was going to translate that word as "artisans", but I guess they are gunsmiths if they work on guns, so it's correct.
Thanks!!
A valuable comment actually being top comment? Thought I'd never see that again.
It would be literally "masters" I assume
True socialism will be achieved when every worker has a hand engraved specifically fitted sport shotgun.
Comrade Fedicles yes
Comrade Fedicles Marx said nothing about equality of outcome, or equality in general.
@@user-zj1uf8hs6t Yes but that was clearly a joke
Kortushka Karterfel “Just a joke.” You aren’t fooling me, you still believe it. People who actually know the topic well don’t make jokes like this, because it just wouldn’t be funny. We make jokes about other idiotic ideas and I could make a joke about people like you for instance. Apparently since it’s a joke, I am in the wrong to correct it. And this had to come from someone with a hentai profile.
@@user-zj1uf8hs6t You'll find this on r/iamverysmart
I read Communist “Party Shotgun” not “Communist Party” Shotgun.
Now I’m sad
Now THAT is a parlor trick I'd like to see
Communist shotgun party, it's a variant of Russian roulette.
S a m e
Dragon’s breath.
In Texas you bring your shotgun to a party, in soviet russia the party brings a shotgun to you.
"Why are fire trucks red? Well, there are six wheels and two drivers. Six times two is twelve. There are 12 inches in a foot. A foot is the legth of a ruler. Queen Elizabeth was a ruler. Queen Elizabeth was also a ship. Ships sail the ocean. There are fish in the ocean. Fish have fins. The Fins fought the Russians. The Russians are red. And aren't firetrucks always rushin'?"
-my father, every single chance he got
That’s really made me chuckle! Thanks for posting.
That was a journey thanks for sharing
Lol.. No..comrade you are just overthinking & over paranoid..
The mother of Dad jokes...
Genius
“Dear Santa, this year I have been a good boy....”
Unfortunately Santa has been sent to gulag...
Capitalist santa:"HELL NO!"
You should call to ice man or whatever he is called instead, the blue one.
Ozi, is it Freeze Meiser?
Santa is going to need to sell a kidney haha
The interior of the case is a good example of Soviet manufacturing philosophy: Put all your effort into the part that really matters, everything else can be mostly ignored. I have an Electronika calculator that’s similar, very high precision math functions and the flimsiest, nastiest plastic case imaginable.
Precisely.
Like the glocks delivered to the U.S. military. Loose pistols, jammed into wooden crates. The packaging matters where the goods are of dubious quality. Once past the box, the treasure lies within.
Not true dude, most soviet things are crude becasue of lack of good craftsmanship technical culture etc. And of course lazy, sloppy work and non existence quality control, becasue why you should make effort to make a good product if people dont have a choice?
Look on things like cars, which is you are lucky are moderate reliable but if you have bad luck then you engin will blow in month, and ofc you cant easily buy any parts, and even if you have parts you cant easily give your car to mechanic etc.
Or some brilliant ideas, a whole lot of early prefabricate housing blocks in my country to save space material you have 25-30 meters2 flat for whole families with toilet in middle of kitchen right next to stove ;)
Or some genius idea that factory need to work! so changing metal hospital bed factory into truck factory ;)
Or made car for farming use, but becasue it was made in former mechanical repair facility it didnt have any machines, so the made starting in 70 to end of communism car with hand fitting.
There is great Polish movie www.imdb.com/title/tt0082755/ which is comedy but its really show how bad communism was
@@swietoslaw The old Soviet era saying was , " we pretend to work and they pretend to pay us." However in the sciences, their scientists excelled. Remains true today. The average worker was treated badly so lost any chance at enthusiasm.
@Vitaly Marmeladov I'm in agreement with you. It wasn't me that didn't understand.
The "chunky" fore end is because you do not want your fingers coming in to contact with a cold steel barrel at temperatures below zero.
Yep, and it's called a "beavertail" design. I actually prefer the beavertail over the "splinter" design. Very common on the Winchester 21.
@@truckcop1 Yep.
Good point
No! The barrels where to hot in the driven pheasant hunts.
@@energizerwolf5574 You may well be right Sir.
Nikita Kruschev is the guy who plays Steve Buscemi in The Death of Stalin.
Exactly! Oh wait...
МЦ is pronounced EmTse. The engraving on the box shows the view of the Kremlin from the opposite side of the Moskva river. Thanks for a great video!
@@RawbeardX Ask him to squat, if his heels touch the ground you got your answer.
At least Chrustchev was somewhat sensible.
it is, but there are rules of transliteration (because reasons), and since Ц is "ts", can't blame Ian.
@@apathtrampledbydeer8446
"Ask him to squat, if his heels touch the ground you got your answer."
What is this in reference to / what does it mean?
Sounds like a common saying / phrase.
@@pouringblood squatting Slav, if a Slav his heels will touch the ground
@@pouringblood it is a meme. Real Slavs (Slavic people) are supposed to be able to squad for a long time with their heels touching the ground because they are used to doing that since youth. Western spies are not used to squatting, so they do it without their heels touching the ground. It is similar to a different meme where you can tell who's a western spy because they drink Cola or beer instead of vodka.
This Soviet greenish coating... Preserving everything from guns to computer racks of this era. Peels off everywhere ;)
after 40+ years)))
Does the coating have a name that you know of?
Cosmoline? Or is that more of a grease?
@@magicoddeffect AFAIK it was just common lacquer with green tint. For some reason Russians like green colour in many applications (from metal parts to interior walls).
@@magicoddeffect Stop using obscenities.
I would love to hear the story of how this left the Soviet union. I'm surprised such a relic of Soviet history ever made it out.
Nikita's son inherited and sold it.
@@painmagnet1 Ironic
Plenty of relics made it out in the 90s.
Soviets lost so much in the 90s when taxi drivers and plumbers were earning significantly more than top nuclear scientists and non-corrupt government officials, kinda sad actually.
That's fantastic quality artwork, and the brass plate is very nice too.
Alas that's worth more than everything own I imagine.
"engravings offer no tactical advantage" -Ocelot
"Shut up Ocelot, it's my shotgun" -Me
A working man's shotgun if I've ever seen one
nick reedy at a price of a house
@@jaimeerives8793 never mind Lenin having millions of Ukrainian people killed and replaced by less skilled Russians, of course the kulaks are your Boogeyman for a famine when the centralisation of Russia and the Soviet Union manufactured a famine that would kill millions of people
@@fetts4ck849 have you ever heard of sarcasm
bacorable The Fact you just confused Lenin for Stalin shows you have very little knowledge about the early CCCP.
@DanOfTheWild cringe
Used a baikal shotgun for years, rugged and reliable as the tides
I had a side lever target air rifle made by them as a kid the barrel was so well made dare I say the rifling and crown was as good as my Walther lothar barrel on my tx200 and that cost 200 alone just for the barrel the Russian air rifle cost 85 pounds for the lot and a tin of pellets im going to see if they still sell them
I used to use one that spent it's time in a leather horse holster subject to all the crap and water from fording, as you say still went reliably and safley bang when needed. The first rifle I ever bought was abolt action .22 Vostock single shot target guns, despite no 'Modern Innovations' it still shoots acuratley .
@@weirdscience8341 in Soviet Russia we modify these (Baikal) to PCP guns without touching the barrel. Actually this barrel can fire a rimfire cartridge without modifications (some guys do that, despite the fact that this is illegal) forever. Barrels on this rifles are great, but the cylinder and all other stuff is garage.
@@weirdscience8341 that's MP-60 or MP-61, still produced
Christopher MacLennan I had an old baikal side by side in the late seventies with a bulge on eno of the barrels shot it for years never effected it
I love how the hammer has "peace" written by it.
I believe that the book is meant to represent State and Revolution, as Lenin had nothing to do with the manifesto.
Probably "Lenin Collected Works"
Oh yes, I was just trying to add my 2 cents and try to help clear any misunderstanding.
Correct name of this shotgun is MC-11. Ts is pronunciation of Russian ц which means "C". And inscription from the bottom means 21st Congress of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union so I think gun was gift from 1959.
PS. Sorry for my bad language
Yes, in Polish Latin alphabet, C in some positions is the same sound as Cyrillic Ц (it took me a long time to learn that, some other Slavic languages which use Latin alphabet pronounce C as Cyrillic Ч, so I used to get a lot of Polish names wrong). Other languages use other transliterations including using two Latin letters where there is only one in Cyrillic, in English we usually write Ts for Ц, Kh for Х etc.
PS. Your language is fine, certainly much better than my Polish :)
MC is quite misleading to English speakers. They’d pronounce it EmSee. EmTse would be better...
In English "Ts" is the better way of transcribing the character ц, due to being closest to the pronunciation, in German and Italian ц is transcribed as Z, therefor MC-11 is correct when using a language (for example a lot of Slavic languages, as has been pointed out) which transcribes ц as C due to that letter being the closest way to emulate the sound, however, MTs-11 is the correct way of spelling this gun when using English (MZ-11 would be correct if it was Italian or German).
Another way to see this discrepancy in transcribing Cyrillic to Latin alphabet can be easily seen when looking up the original owner of the gun using some of the languages mentioned:
English: Nikita Sergeyevich Khrushchev
Polish: Nikita Siergiejewicz Chruszczow
German: Nikita Sergejewitsch Chruschtschow
All variants are equally correct (or incorrect), depending on context.
@@merobo5066 yes for English speaker Ts would be closer to slavic C but Ian reads it as TeeES while it should be Ts like in "Tsk!" sound.
@@WolfKenneth yeah, the spelling Ts correct, he should call it "Tse" instead of "TeeEs"
Politics aside, the craftsmanship that went into that shotgun is spectacular
To each according to his needs...
...and I *need* a rockin', super-luxury shotgun.
the lower left engraving on the barrel mentions the gunsmiths that crafted the gun (or embellished it) by name. "MACTEP" - (read as master) means craftsman of any kind (including engraving and gunsmith specialists)
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Temerkin предлагаю :)
A cool slightly off the beaten track video.
Soviet sporting guns are as good as any nations but are seldom seen outside eastern Europe.
Most people tend to have a liking for home manufactured sporting firearms or those from the top arsenals and never come across specialist weapons like these...it makes sense, who's going to service, repair and replace parts...and out of country the price climbs too
Great video as always
Peace
Charlie 🇬🇧
It's a dove, often used as a symbol of peace. And good eating, just like pigeons. :)
geussing hammer price will be over 100k for this Ian ?
but what about the sickle price?
i think the auction company has a estimate range for the hammer price
@@Brannington This is gold 👌
@@Brannington brilliant 👌
@@Brannington nice 👌
Russia has an incredibly diverse and interesting sporting arms scene and I along with a fair chunk of everyone here can't wait for you to get a ticket over seas for a real in-depth series at some point.
This aged poorly.
I feel like not I've seen it all. Kruschev’s shotgun - it's a thing (of beauty).
I love the fact that there's the word "Mir", which means "Peace" (hence the dove), on the lever on top of the gun.(I apologise profusely for my lack of gun terminology knowledge)
I don't care about the imagery in this case but that is a beautiful piece of work.
Wow that is an absolutely beautiful gun. The engraving and gold accents are just perfect! Makes me wish I was Kruschev... or not, I can't tell.
I really don’t think I could bring myself to touch that absolutely beautiful case and shotgun with my own filthy underserving bare hands.
That is an actual piece of treasure.
Markings say:
(some abbreviation, probably, "assembled by") Teterkin V.M.
Masters:
(some abbreviation; probably, "engraved by") Chukanov A.S.
To the right, as you said already, "No more that 700 kilograms per square centimeter"
Gun: The best of Soviet industry.
Case: The rest of Soviet industry.
Love your intro Ian ( Hi guys your in tune to another series of forgotten weapons .com ) Always get a video everyday your channel is amazing deserve every sub you have and many more to come 👍👍
Ian! You are starting to get the hang of the Cyrillic alphabet! Being awesome at French pronunciations ain't gonna cut it in 2019 you gotta branch out!
As well as remarkably good in Spanish
I saw it as "Communist, Party Shotgun" and thought , this sounds fun
Okay for some pointers of the symbolism on the gun.
4:03 The central statue is quite a famous statue called "Рабо́чий и колхо́зница" (Worker and Kolkhoz woman) by sculptor Vera Mukhina. It was displayed on the soviet pavilion at the Paris world fair in 1937. Later the statue was moved to Moscow. It was an often depicted symbol in soviet media and iconography.
4:41 On the lever we can see a white dove with the word "мир" (mir) wich means "peace" or "world" (but peace in this context... ironic though that might be on a weapon. The dove may be even more ironic because well... shotguns tend to be used to shoot birds, but okay...) And yes, that word "mir" is the same word that gave the famous space-station it's name.
4:48 Nothing special going on here... Hydro-electric dams were considered rather cool by the USSR and were often displayed as points of national pride. The dude on the right is not a statue as far as I know, just a regular steelworker to go along with the blast-furnace set-up in the background.
5:07 The book is not the communist manifesto, as indeed there is a portrait of Lenin and his name in Cyrillic (Ленин), and Lenin did not write the communist manifesto. Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels did. However the "Lenin book" motif is quite common in soviet iconography. There are many murals and posters with people holding books with simply the name "Lenin" on it, without any pointers as to what specific work of Lenin is depicted. It's basically a symbol that conveys "Lenin was a brilliant guy who wrote a lot of cool stuff, you should totally check it out dude!". Above the Lenin book we have something that ties this gun directly to the circumstance in witch it was presented to Khrushchev, namely in the gold banner: "XXI" below that "съезд" and "КПСС" witch would translate to "the 21st congress of the CPSU (Communist Party of the Soviet Union). Above that we see the State emblem of the USSR with some flags of the Soviet Union surrounding it. And, above that as Ian rightly pointed out, the motto of the Communist Party. Namely: "Пролетарии всех стран, соединяйтесь!". Indeed this is often translated into English as "Workers of the world, Unite". The Motto appears as the closing line in the Communist manifesto, and was originally in German: "Proletarier aller Länder, vereinigt Euch!" and a more literal translation of both the Russian and the German into English world be: "Proletarians of all countries, unite (yourselves)!". This motto was also the motto of the USSR as a whole. (in fact when one takes a close look at the state emblem of the USSR one can see the motto appearing multiple times on the ribbon around the wreaths of wheat in all the major languages spoken in the USSR)
Ian is very right to point out that the phrase "Workers of the world, Unite" inlaid in gold on such a luxury firearm is "a little bit ironic". As a communist myself (yes, don't be scared now) I find this firearm an affront to all that communism set out to strive for. It's an extravagant toy for a party bureaucrat that lives a life of luxury over the backs of the workers of the Soviet Union. And, whether you think that the goal is an utopian pipe dream or not, communism set out as a movement to do away with all the oppressors, the parasites and the elites and build a society that is egalitarian, democratic and free of exploitation. Clearly the USSR was not in any way headed for such a society in spite of all it's rhetoric and lip-service to likes of Marx and Lenin. I think that the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics was about as Socialist as the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is democratic.
In short, I think that this firearm is a perfect symbol for the betrayal of the communist principles the Soviet Union and it's autocratic leaders claimed to adhere to. And the symbols scattered all over it are as devoid of substance as can be.
Thanks for all the info!
Very nicely put, thank you. Unfortunately for your convictions, I believe Solzhenitsyn has quite aptly debunked communism as being doomed to degenerate into brutal tyranny wherever it emerges (and that it’s ideals can thus never be achieved), because it is an ideology born and borne out of profound envy and resentment and bases itself on an antagonistic view of society and History as a whole. Such "hate", if you will, can only ever generate violence and dictature.
@@TheAtmosfear7 I have to disagree with your idea that communism is borne out of profound envy and resentment. The proletarian movement, and the communist/anarchist ideologies that came out of it are a product out of a profound sence of injustice in the world. It is bourne out of the question: "Why are the so many poor, and so few who control the majority of the wealth in our society, while the worker works as hard, if not harder then the capitalist investor? Why do so many people have to live lives of misery and poverty in an industrial world that is able to produce so much wealth? Capitalism is evidently not a meritocracy, no matter how hard it's proponents try to proclaim that it is. It is a socio-economic sytem that clearly disproportionatly hands power and wealth to those who own the means of production versus those who do not own the means of production.
True, the slave will come to resent his master, even hate him. But is it not exactly communism/anarchism that tries to forge this collective resentment into an engine of positive change in the world, in stead of the blind violence of peasant uprisings or slave revolts such as that of Spartacus? It is exactly the theorethical framework of scientific socialism that tries to move beond the crude and instinctive response of "eat the rich" to the appearant inequity that capitalism generates. The communist movemet and it's theoretical basis is not antagonistic to human society or human history, in stead it recognizes the antagonisms in our current human society, and societies past, and attempts to formulate a way to remove those antagonisms.
Maybe Alexandr Solzhenitsyn was right in that the praxis of the Bolsheviks would inevitably result in Stalinist tyranny and bloodshet. But Solzhenitsyn is not the only thinker who has critisized the results of the October revolution. Rosa Luxemburg, Anton Pannekoek, Emma Goldman and even Leon Trotsky (who took an active part in leading the bolsheviks during the revolution) have voiced their dissatisfaction with the state of affairs In the RSFSR and later USSR, and yet all of these people where vervent believers in the possibility of a communist future. I'd suggest you add their works to your library as well. "The Revolution betrayed" by Trotsky is a good starter.
Working towards a communist furure is not merely a question of "it would be nice if the world was a more friendly place to live". It is a question trying to solve the current situation of systematic inequity, exploitation and opression. And this situation needs to be solved if we wish to live in a peacefull and stable world. Else we are doomed to an endless cycle of fruitless and violent uprisings in wich demagogues take power only to restore the division of humanity into social classes. Maybe Marx, Kropotkin, or Lenin did not have the right awnsers. However, that should not be a reason to just lay down and sheepishly accept the status-quo. The Russian revolution has, in the end, obviously failed. But so many revolutions have failed. Yet that does not mean that there is no chance in impvoving the way we organise our societies. In the ancient world, a society without slavery would have been unthinkable. Yet we today have in most parts of the world overcome slavery. Why then would it not be possible to also do away with wage-slavery and capital as well?
It doesn’t surprise me at all that Khrushchev would be the one to receive a gold inlaid shotgun. He was the finest asset the United States has ever seen
Of course you had to slip in "but it wasn't REAL communism..."
Now do a video about those shotguns they made with defective anti-aircraft cannon barrels for prison guards.
The ks23 and the tp82 would make great video
He only does videos on things that he physically comes across doesn't he?
@@Graknorke Not at all. Ian has a long and storied history of reviewing flights of fancy with his dear friend Mr. Truffles, whom the rest of us cannot perceive much to our chagrin, but Ian assures us that he is quite the eloquent story teller, and most definately not a biproduct of a psychotic break he suffered seven years ago.
I was thinking “how can you be giving away this shotgun while your people starved!?” So I went and looked at the data and 1959 is just about the best year the Soviet Union ever had. They landed a probe on the moon, economic growth was almost 4%, and its just about the only year in which the average Soviet child would grow to the same height as the average American child (meaning less hunger). It’s kind of a memento of the high point of the USSR; it was all downhill from there.
Kruschev was leading the ussr to a better future, but then came along that bastard breznhev.
Pretty chilling to think the USSR peaked in 1958 when it lasted thirty years after that
@@BvousBrainSystems he is wrong tho, older people praise Brezhnev, and bash Chrustchev, and for God's sake, last famine in USSR was in 1946, and never happened again till the dissolution.
@@MenRot not really, my grandmother dislikes Brezhnev
@@tarhit9 I have no clue where you are getting your numbers, unless you are taking it all from that one paper by Brainerd. The paper you reference builds its model of economic wellbeing solely on birth weights, physical height, and (most importantly) infant mortality to impute Soviet GDP per capita (because coming up with a price index to compare the system is a semi-theological enterprise). It finds higher Soviet economic growth rates compared to several Western European nations, as well as the US, but the reason for this is simple: the existence of small pockets of severe poverty in Western nations drives a huge portion of the data (esp about infant mortality). That, combined with the fact that the caloric intake / height relationship seems to have a biological ceiling, means that these are terribly skewed indicators for assessing aggregate economic output, particularly in a modern economy where nutrition involves such a small portion of total economic activity.
Brainerd's argument is actually a fairly marginal one in the broader discipline of economics. The fact you "don't know where you're getting your data from, but most of [of my argument] is either misleading or false" leads me to suspect you haven't read very far on the topic and are presenting the one paper you are aware of as the all defining gospel. Without belaboring all of the threads you have blithely pulled on, it is worth pointing out the severe crisis in Soviet agriculture in the 1970's that required direct negotiation with the Nixon Administration to prevent significant famine: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Grain_Robbery .
The Soviet Union's standard of physical wealth (looking at measures that don't have ceiling / floor effects like nutrition which instead simply become proxies for poverty) steadily declined as the USSR's central planners continued to focus on measures of economic productivity rooted in the 1940's, like tons of steel or numbers of cars produced. While the USSR experienced this economic "narrowing" it also allocated a larger share of its output toward military purposes than the US. You can see this here: nintil.com/the-soviet-union-military-spending/ .
And finally, circling back to my specific claim that "just about the only year in which the average Soviet child would grow to the same height as the average American child", I am getting that fact from (probably) the (same underlying) data that produced "Figure 1a" of Brainerd's paper (though she seems to place their peak in 1960 rather than 1959; I think I was using a broader source but it's been over a year).
Suffice to say, even ignoring the authoritarian police state that stifled free expression and liberty, the USSR was in a purely physical sense not a great place to live. But, because (i) transformations in technology had not yet started to render the centrally planned economic model obsolete, (ii) the demographic imbalance from the Great Patriotic War was starting to balance out and labor shortages be efficiently satisfied, and (iii) the political environment was settling into a post-Stalin calm, I stand by the assertion that 1959 was one its better years.
These guns are know as the Russian purdeys, they are incredibly well made, know as best guns of Russia, this refers to highest quality of that country, as with Spain best guns refers to AYA and arrieta, as for these Russian guns, TsKIB SOO, of Tula, USSR/Russia, was one maker that could and did. The outlet was founded in the late 1940s as a research and design bureau for hunting and sporting arms (the name is an abbreviation of the Russian words to that effect). A few years later it was merged with the gunmaking school of TOZ (Tula Arms Works), one of the world’s oldest firearms manufacturers. The result was a full-fledged custom and bespoke gun and rifle maker, that did not only develop new designs and trained artisans in the traditional gunmaking specialties, but also made guns for competitive shots, VIPs, and just hunters.
Also the side note, the action of assisted opening was developed by frederick beesley, which was made famous by purdey 😎
Cool!! Thanks for the great video Ian!!
the engraving on the action is really beautiful...
What a beautiful firearm, intricately detailed everywhere you'd care to look without looking like you'd be scared to use it for fear of damaging it
Soviet Union: Hell of a party, so long as you were the one hosting it.
Thank you , Ian ,
Lovely work on that gun .
Gorgeous SXS shotgun Ian an thanks for showing it Sir.
Ever since i saw The Death of Stalin movie I can only picture Steve Buscemi wielding this gun.
Is it possible someone re-upholstered the inside of the box at some point?
Looks authentic. Soviet chess boxes and cutlery cases also have that shitty ill fitting glued in fabric interiour. It's a cultural thing I guess.
Probably just regular soviet made. Nothing was ever fully completed. You might have a sink on the bathroom wall, but it would tilt because the screws were not tightened etc.. Everything was like that, absolutely everything.
Who cares it just makes me smile that the mega rich in team America will be shitting themselves to buy it anyway
No, nobody cares obout boxes in russia and slavic countries in general.
Boxes are just so you dont scrach the thing when you bring it home and you throw it away.
@@freshcancer713 Sorry but not, it was part of communism making everything lazy, sloppy etc
_Our_ gun! 😁
Beautiful finish, I've never seen anything similar. Interesting item overall... Reminds me of sowjet e-guitars wich also have interesting details compared to what we're used to here.
The lacquer on the barrels appears to be the same stuff that was on a lot of their ammo. Very cool :)
"All animals are equal some animals are more equal than others. "
Man Russia has made amazing shotguns in the past hundred years. Any time I shoot in a shotgun competition I always use my Single shot Ishekev made in the soviet union. I don't know how it got to the united States but its an amazing shotgun
Wow, that engraving is incredible.
That is some drop-dead *gorgeous* engraving and nicely-figured wood! I expect that Czar Vlad will be bidding on this. I'd also really like to know how the heck this shotgun got into the US to begin with, that would be a fascinating story to hear.
I'm somewhat disappointed by the fact it doesn't blow out my eardrums with the sound of unfiltered communism simply by opening the box. All joking aside, how this one ended up over in the states is probably more interesting.
I bet the wife or one of his sons did not see the point of keeping a gun they would never use (after kruschev's death)
Russia had to sell everything in 90's.
From factories to double barrel shotguns.
@@lovepeace9727 i think it was sold before that, kruschev died in 1971 i think, they probably had no use for a gun, so they sold it.
Actually I was wondering if when he opened the box we'd hear singing like in Hunt for Red October.
(Darnit, now I really want someone to overdub that! lol...)
Ogre It was probably stolen in the 90’s.
The book on the bottom is more likely to be State and Revolution than The Communist Manifesto
Mecka Doyle Ian does not know about Communism
Communism - a terrible idea that needs to be crushed by the mighty boots of freedom
CleanerBen Because killing innocent poor people is freedom right? Because a dictatorship of rich corporations is freedom right? Providing for everyone and encouraging an absolute power by all working people is definitely not freedom.
@@user-zj1uf8hs6t nobody is talking about killing poor people, except communists who's policies tend to get people killed. Either on purpose or through absolute ineptitude.
@@cleanerben9636 you're right. after all the whole doctrine was made and implemented by zionists who don't care much about non jews life.
The engraving under the barrel "Мастера: сб. Темеркин В. М., гр. Чуканов А. С." - it's the names of gunsmiths who put the gun together. Literally means "Masters" and then gives the names. "сб." is probably "сборщик" - the gunsmith who assembled and fitted the gun - Temerkin V. M. (V. - for his name and M. for his patronimic as is customary to adress people in Russia), and "гр." - probably "гравер" - the engraver - Tchukanov A. S.
Nice touch engraving „Peace“ (Mir) and a dove on the safety catch.
The same company that made this shotgun has later on also made GSh-18, VKS and PP-2000, which I find really interesting.
Also what was this shotgun sold for? Ot doesn't state that in the description.
With this gun you will bury all the game birds
It also can be disassembled faster by banging action with a shoe
The inscriptions on the lower part of the barrel - the names of the masters who made the weapon:
сб. Тетёркин - collector Teterkin,
гр. Чуканов - engraver Chukanov
A FW vid for my birthday? Thanks Ian!
Ironically there's a pigeon with a word "PEACE" written beneath it on top of the shotgun
Maybe I'm wrong but when sporting double barreled shotguns was war gun?? This is clearly gun for hunting not for war
well, you wouldn't go to war with a double-barrel, would you?))
You have to deliver the peace in some way, I guess
Sonyface Sacrifice I guess you’ve never heard of what the USSR have done like taking over Poland, East Germany etc.
Mateusz Walicki, your answer is totally irrelevant to Sonyface Sacrifice's comment (or to the OP).
Also, nothing "ironic" here. Hunting shotguns have nothing to do with war.
Looks like the master gunsmiths apprentice had to assemble all the cases...
Words cannot describe the work done on this gun
One of the finest Olympic firearms was designed by a blind firearms designer in the Soviet Union. How good was his designs, they won Olympic Gold, Silver and Bronze medal in the 50’s and 60’s. Tula has one of the finest gunsmithing programs in the world. They still produce fine firearms unavailable her in America. MCM Margolin
No peasants were harmed or sent to a gulag in the making of this shotgun.
Khrushchev's double barrel, Trump and Patton's 1911 really make Saddam's Gold plated AK look the shabbiest of custom leader guns
Saddam's blood quran however, thats something realy crazy.
Putting the history of the ting aside, it really is a beautiful piece of workmanship.
I was just reading about this in their brochure. Nice timing
The writings on the bottom parts of barrels numbered 443 by the way (out of 600, I presume) state the names of actual workers who finished this particular gun with all the bells and wistles.
igorsova handy for if one of the barrels malfunctions ... you know who to send to the gulag.
@@3of11 Gulags is Stalin era practice. During Kruschev era, they would send them into psychiatric hospital and would drug you into a vegetable state ho heal from anti-sovietism. Not joking, hahaha
Example of extreme irony:
Communist party leader’s personal gun becomes tool of capitalism.
Poor Marx and Lenin - I wonder how much Lenin’s body will eventually cost.
Reminds me of when Mikhail Gorbachev was in a Pizza Hut commercial
It's a beautiful piece. It'd be nice to see it in the possession of a museum or the like, if only to give more people the opportunity to see it up close, as it's both a wonderful bit of history and a gorgeous and fairly unique work of art.
@@1BlessEdYou COMMIE PINKO WE WIN AS LONG AS IT MAKES US MONEY
it's a great piece of irony, how communism was twisted to become this... digusting abomination that it is today
Those poor murderous dictators :(
This gun was at the Great American Outdoor Show in Harrisburg and I am glad to say that I got to see it up close
Viewers should really check the auction listing, even if they don't intend to buy it. The auction page has exquisite photography of all the engraving and more.
7:34 it says that it was made by Chukanov and Teterkin
Jesus that action is a 12 out of 10, it does make that case a huge disgrace
Do not use our Lord's name in vain!
Very cool video as always, perhaps it's the for a famous owners playlist
I have a Soviet made sporting shotgun. It's more of a "workers grade" model. It is a TOZ 63. A 16 gauge double with exposed hammers. It does have some basic engraving on it and chrome lined bores. Also a nice steel but plate. It's very solid and works well.
a TRUE Oxymoron for firearms. The excellence of the Shotgun and the mediocrity of the case speak volumes. IMHO.
traditional russian quality.
Kinda makes sense, though - the shotgun is *not* intended to be used, or transported (for actual hunting), or even _displayed_ (as a work of art) inside that case. It's merely the box you get it in when you "buy" it.
Maybe sensible allocation of resources is also a soviet theme :)
Jason Doe very well said
@@zloychechen5150 Most Russian kit I have come acros tends to be beautifully enginnered, where it needs to be. Like the old Lada Nivas, the body falls off , but you can't kill the engine and drive train.
The case is almost analogous to a Potemkin village, all show on the outside... then you see the inside... (remarkable engraving and lovely outside of the case)
In Soviet Russia, shotgun uses *you* for buttpad.
Ian! I would love to see a video on the tkb series of Soviet bullpup rifles!
ooo, please get your hands on an MTs-21-12! That would be _superb_
Khrushchev is the correct spelling.
The ex mayor of Moscow lives in the next town over from mine, he has his sporting estate there and is currently building his new mansion.
There was probably good money to be made in being the mayor of Moscow.
painmagnet1 ha ha :)) You just hit the target! You can read a book writen by Ikea Russia' boss about that. that mayor name was Yuryi Luzhkov. His wife became a billionaire in a short time - needless to say how.
In all communist countries the nomenklaturists are always the richest. The same is true for former communist countries if the old structure remains.
4:44 the engraving below the dove reads "peace"
it could be engraved with anything...cats...cows...trees...flowers...the quality and craftsmanship of that engraving is just stunning. any other information on the artist?
A rarely produced and bourgeoish shotgun in a Communist Party, makes perfect sense !
funny to see all that corn on the engravings. Hruschev had a thing about planting it all aroundthe soviet empire
How and why do people dislike these videos? It’s not bad quality or bad content. It is literally a review of a really cool gun done by gun Jesus himself
That metal engraving is BEAUTIFUL!!!
if any of Ian's videos should be translated into Russian this one should definitely be done
Dear PArty official, This year I have succeeded my production quotas by alsomst 25%...
You must have cheated! NKVD will find out.
Dear fellow worker,
Splendid! You have done incredible work for the people, and demonstrated to the central planners that the quotas in place are inefficiently low. We look forward to expanding everyone's quota to meet your wonderful achievement.
@@mfree80286 ...and also to expecting a further 25% increase from you, comrade, next year.
I used to use a folding single barrel non ejecting 12 bore Baikal. That gun spent most of it times in a leather saddle hoslter , out in all weathers fording through rivers, in rain , snow and with mimimum care. It just kept working safley. I own a now 40+ year old Vostock .22 bolt action target gun, first rifle I ever bought. Still shoots far better than I can achive. All Russian guns tend to be what the west considers short stocked, but bear in mind if your hunting in Russia in winter, you'd have a very thick coat.
This is actually really interesting on how it ended up in an auction
Yes please, lovely gun even with it's odd heritage. No mention of if it sold or how much. Must have been redistributed to the workers. 😀
Nah the “Central Bureau for Blah blah” could also be German, don’t forget we have words like “Rindfleischverfallsdatumumettiketierungsverordnung”
Dang that's long.
"Central bureau for blah blah" sounds like something out of east germany aswell
Isn't it just a several words without spaces? Rindfleisch - beef, verfallsdatum - expiry date, ettikettier - label, ungsver - ?, ordnung - order. What's it all means together?
That Dude it mean Beef expiry date lable swapping order. That’s the beauty of the german language, you can just put an endless amount of nouns together and it makes sense. E.g Donaudampfschiffahrtsgesellschaftskapitänskajüten etc eyc
Thanks a lot! Very interesting!
hey Ian, 2 questions, 1. is the beretta m9 and 92 fs the same gun or different model? 2. what is your favorite gun in your collection?
3:50
What was the communist related joke?
Так блэт, где ты это взял?
Oh, how I'd love to see you take a look at an MTs255!
The markings under the barrel you asked are the names of the artisans (here written as Mastera, masters) that im guessing worked on this beauty. Names are s-b. Teterkin, V.M and a.r. Chukanov, A.S. Abreviations are hard to guess, but i'd think that the first 2 letters of each are the armorer and the engraver.