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Why I reject the ‘MADMAN HITLER’ myth
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- Опубліковано 16 сер 2024
- Was Hitler an insane "madman"? No. Absolutely not. And it's time to explain my stance on this controversial history debate.
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I reject it because it’s dishonest and make it seem like ordinary people don’t have the capacity to do great evil.
Thats not a sound argument. There is no clear line where it says normal people. And also There are people who did similar degree of crimes even though they are ordinary people. Go read american congress records, there were ordinary white people saying 'black people are subhumans and should not be free'. Then the incident that was based to make 'Hotel Ruwanda' is just again African version of WW2, where one tribe says other tribe should not exist and people starts to murder literally their neighbors. Its not a person, its 'People'.
Everyones version and sense of humanity is something that hangs by a thread. If you start to flirt with the wrong things enough, its very easy to get tipped off course. Its why we learn history, to learn those lessons so we are better aware.
Of course any one can slaughter lambs.Too make it × 1000 thousands is an atrocitie beyond the (any one) These are different times any thing is possible.
You know i'm in fact quite worried that precisely the sort of people that claim "Hitler was just mad" are the people most likely to commit evil acts themselves because they just don't realize that anyone can be evil under the right circumstances unless they have a very strong moral sense of what's right.
Bro they do have you ever read a history book the Germans the British the Japanese the Americans the Italians the French I could easily keep going but they have all committed atrocities
We have seen great evil perpetrated by ordinary people since 2019.
Reminds me of the movie "Downfall", where all those Hitler Rants Parodies come from. The director took a lot of criticism for supposedly showing Hitler as sympathetic. His response was something like: "If we continue treating Hitler as some sort of supernatural being, we're never going to learn anything from that moment in history."
Jojo Rabbit recieved crticism for portraying yahtzees as human. Same thing can be said for that.
[Insert current thing where politician wants imprison his/her opponents and reeducate the children.]
@@theblancmange1265 Yahtzees. My sides.
@@pauliusgruodis137 UA-cam auto deletes comments on certain channels with certain words.
@@theblancmange1265 im glad more people have caught onto this, ive tried pointing it out to people but even saying the word for making a filter "B-list" is B-listed, ive had countless times after making a comment wondering why i havent got a reply just to discover that it got scrubbed
Downfall is a masterpiece
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it." - Aristotle
exactly i entertained the idea of socialism and rejected it based on its lack of moral value.
i didnt cackle maniacally and laugh about the poors i just think we should give them the foundation to be independently successful instead of giving away charity.
@@bastait I did the same with altruism - I entertained the idea, and rejected it as a utopian ideal. If nature wasn't egoistic, there would be no drive for self-preservation.
@@danielharris9403 humanity is greater than nature and has proved it repeatedly
that was the entire original point of philosophy and you only like social darwinism cause it allows you to be self centered and cruel and justify it with common sense.
you call it altruism cause you use nietzsche as an excuse to discount all charity and good acts instead of acknowledging fake charity for what it is.
typical moral relativism stupid shallow and based on men who committed genocide.
My friend from childhood got to talking about flat earth. I listened, but since I am the aerospace geek of the two of us, I had questions for him. I also know a lot about the oceans and geography. I’m a map nerd.
I really did think about it and give him the time of day. I’m an open minded person compared to some of my far right and Christian family. They would never entertain the idea of a flat earth. I even researched it on my own time.
I guess you know that I don’t believe the earth is flat. I tried to ask him some questions to make him think. I don’t know if it worked. He got mad that I wasn’t buying it. I’ve talked to him a handful of times over the last 10 years. I hope he’s doing okay.
@@The_Red_Off_Road I always try to consider "to what end is this information useful?", or "maybe this is a semantic issue". I would consider the earth to be "round-ish", but my world wouldn't change if a trustworthy authority announced it to be a different shape tomorrow; I think I'd be more concerned about a hysterical mass human response.
Cartoonizing evil keeps us from learning lessons from evil. "Never Again" *requires* us to talk about how the evil happened.
They weren't Indiana Jones villains or crazy monsters. Humans. Did. The. Evil.
and cartooning evil prevents us for seeing someone who otherwise sounds "perfectly reasonable" is setting you on a course of action leading to something horrific.
Hitler and Stalin would never have gotten power if millions of idiots weren't willing to give up their independence and follow them.
It's the fact, that under the right conditions, we all can become a Hitler. Most people have never taken the time to look deep into the darkest regions of their mind and stare the devil in the eyes. Just the notion of it scares the heck out of most people. This should not be a conversation that is viewed externally, but internally within ourselves. This is not an opinion btw. Stanley Milgram proved it. We're all capable of evil. One cannot be a force for good in this world if they don't come to terms with the evil that dwells within them. Until then, pointing out the evil doesn't make a person a force for good. It just emphasizes that they have a lot of unfinished work to resolve within themselves. Be careful for people who virtue signal.
Cartooning evil, god who ever came up with that pre-school bs must be laughing how he/she manipulated people & twisted morality.
The real evil is the community who was banned from 109countries
It's the same logic as calling every terrorist a "psychologically troubled mad man". Many people, especially in the west, refuse to acknowledge that there's a genuine train of "rational" thought that culminates in ideologies (as much as they are based on false beliefs) that lead people to commit terrible acts of horror.
Understanding this "logic" is vital to dismantling it. Censorship never succeeds in changing minds.
Terrorists are certainly not crazy. Often they are highly motivated people. One doesn't have to agree with the methods or goals to appreciate the zeal with which certain so called terrorists (which are hero's for others) pursue their goals, often without any regard for their own life (or others).
I think the 9/11 attacks were brutal, but the 19 were kind of brave (and extremely succesful, they are bankrupting the USA for 21 years straight now. To understand anything you have to try to look through the eyes of the other.
I mean we used the Mujahideen in Afghanistan and left them out to dry after the Soviets withdrew. Big shock they ended up hating us.
@@JarthenGreenmeadow they didnt ended up hating us europeans, only a small part of them did so. the animosity was almost completly one sided from the west. this narrative was invented to justify the afghanistan war i guess.
@@YouAreUnimportant the mujahideen did not, but the Near Eastern arabs despise the Europeans over having ruined their entire region with their colonialist meddling
And also this open the gates to let the apology and myth of the innocent, ignored and masterful german generals (espci its poster boys) live strong.
Double damage.
The scariest thing about Hitler is not that he is a monster
The scariest thing about Hitler is that he is a human
And many, (repeat) many humans are just as human as he was.
some people should spend some time touching grass until they realise that normal humans are rather capable at doing abnormal things
Such a cringey comment
People like to assume that there's something "special" about very exceptional individuals that means they are fundamentally different to normal people. With great people like saints, it's that they are specially holy, so that we don't feel obliged to try to live up to their difficult example. With terrible people like Hitler, it's that they are born specially evil, so there's no danger of you ever becoming a bad person.
The Total Depravity of Man.
Evil requires sanity because insanity takes away your very ability to make your own choices.
😮 now! that is well said
Yea, totally not cool. Dude was clearly insane. He booted international banker influence from his country and DRAMATICALLY improved the standard of living for everyone in Germany within a few years. Offered peace repeatedly... but those bankers pressured Churchill and got what they wanted in the end, including a new country that we are still paying for to this very day... AWESOME!!! Glad everything turned out well. The standard of living under this system is clearly going up for the average person in the countries that supported overthrowing him too!!! Things just keep getting better for everyone!!! Oh wait...That's not true at all. Standard of living is in perpetual decline... Huh, I wonder what it could possibly be???
Let Boo "Snowflake" Kaufman read this!
General Patton:
"-We fought the wrong enemy,"
Your lack of faith scares me
Another sheep... If Politicians had to fight their own wars, there wouldn't be any wars lol.
@@HeathenDance*Roman Republic enters the chat*
@@glennross85 I was thinking about Contemporary History lol. But yes, before fire arms were invented, and the world was still in constant turmoil, the logic of war wasn't always sneaky and based on "You go, and tell me how it went."
@@user-lm9ij9ge1x your lack of a real username makes me suspicious.
The reality that Hitler was a regular human being interferes with peoples' self-satisfaction: "I'm a good person! He's evil! I have nothing in common with him!" Yes, you do.
I agree with him in a lot of sectors but I am not a no no socialist. I dont hate the Austrian painter.
Spot on. It allows radical leftists to erase my identity as German American and guilt me into being “white”. It then allows radicals of every other creed under the sun to overreact to this loss of identity with some form of identity politics.
I just can't get into the bastard's head, I think we need to isolate people like that.
Try to fuck with the mexican drug cartell and you will meet some really bad people on this planet.
It's almost like the Hitler we know is a caricature for peoples' self-satisfaction
I read a ton about Hitler and the one constant is that almost everyone was deeply impressed by him, friends and foes alike. I never heared any contemporary describe him as a madman or as crazy.
Because he wasnt. The simple madman description is for idiots.
@Celes yes, that is what British propaganda said. They also said he had one nut. They also said he was part Jewish. They said a lot of things, but then again that's why it is called propaganda.
@@Fjodor.Tabularasa In totally insane world, sanity is not normal. So, yes, Hitler was insane. It's just that vast majority of people (probably around 80%) are insane, too. But they are not aware of that.
He was famed for being extremely charismatic.
That's why he's so scary, people fear that they would have been taken in.
In fact, it is known that Goebbels didn't even like him when they first met.......
That’s the scariest thing about him.
One other thing. By acknowledging he was sane,they must accept that anyone is capable of horrible acts. They must admit evil is real and that terrifies them more than anything.
Human beings, genetically speaking, are a sophisticated and more advanced branch of the chimpanzee family. See a couple of documentaries about chimpanzees, both in their natural habitats, or in captivity, even as pets, and you'll understand the creepy similarities between both our tribal, violent and sadistic species.
The madman myth is a kind of moral pornography.
"The way to hell is paved with good intentions."
I believe this describes the evolution of Germany from the late 1920's until 1945 pretty well.
Nobody was "mad", these people all thought they were doing the right things to progress Germany forward - except they were going for a head on collision with the doors to hell.
This is a quote I think needs to be echoed more.
It's really easy to believe you are the hero in your own story but the world is filled with more people than we could even imagine.
Hitler didn't want war now read David Irving Paul Craig Roberts Patrick Buchanan From 1935 onwards Germany made available debt-free and interest-free money, which was responsible for Germany's surprising recovery from a deep recession, leading it to the status of a world power , and that in just five years. The German government financed all its activities from 1935 to 1945, without gold and without debt. It took the union of the capitalist and communist world sides of the same coin to destroy this and bring Europe back into the purgatory of coup central banks.Hitler never wanted war with Poland, but an alliance with Poland as he had with Francisco Franco's Spain, Mussolini's Italy, Miklos Horthy's Hungary, and Father Josef Tiso's Slovakia.Indeed, why would he want war when, in 1939, he was surrounded by allied neighbors, friendly or neutral, save France? And he had crossed out Alsace, because reconquering Alsace meant war with France, and that meant war with Britain, whose empire he admired and which he had always looked to as an ally.
The "doors to hell" being international finance in the form of world Jewry being completely united against the Axis.
I do love your quote but lets be honest.
Some people, like Göring, were in it for themselves.
Other than that, you almost completely nailed it.
The way to Hell is paved w/bad intentions.
I remember reading a book on how macabre storytelling in America shifted from "Anyone could become a monster" to "look how awful and different from us monsters are," and how that lead to people concluding "Oh, I could never be the bad guy." Then, when someone like Jordan Peterson comes along and says, "Those tyrants are even more evil than you know... and if you'd lived in their time you'd probably join them because you've been trained not to think for yourselves," people freak out and either wake up or double down.
this is a midwit take. This issue has been rehashed many times over centuries.
@@primmakinsofis614 And many are implicit in an ill thought out doublethink
Good point!
And to be fair, Peterson probably is resisted so much because he's coming in from the right. But people on the left (think: Hannah Arendt) have said the same thing. Which you'd think would fit the narrative on the left... But they've painted themselves into an ideological corner now.
@@primmakinsofis614 don't forget the ones that wanted unvaccinated people rounded up into camps
US was founded on first nation genocide
black slavery
and bombing Germans and Japanese.
the ju wishy washy doctrines are a virus of the US mentality
The same people that accuse you of loving Hitler are the one who absolutely 💯 love Stalin
stalin: gets out of jail free card
hitler:it's all your fault LOL
it's ALL horrible although on judgment day hidden truths will be revealed about ww1 and ww11 but think about it why is one so blatantly pushed to the side and the atrocities ignored (which number wise alone was roughly 10-15 million more than what hitler did if not more ) while the other is all the world ever speaks on and shoved down your throat
could it be the other ideology won
Hitler was demonically possessed. Its how he escaped 30 known assassination attempts. WWII was the 2nd attempt to destroy Christian Europe after the failure of WWI. Today, we see that legacy is almost fulfilled
Right! Stalin was far worse!
Or Mao, the Maoist are even worse.
Mao Zedong even worse than Stalin.
The scariest thing for me about that time and history is the amount of information that is not added into the greater equation. No one ever talks about ethnic Germans being murdered in Poland, and that this was part of the reason for the German attack on Poland. No one talks about, the fact that Hitler offered multiple avenues of political ways to resolve the issue with Danzig and the fact that Polish nationals were murdering ethnic Germans in droves, apparently at the time. Last little tidbit on 28 different occasions, Hitler offered some form of peace or end to the fighting without conditions, and it was continuously denied by the allies. I just find it strange that a madman bent on world domination offers peace to the allies on numerous occasions only for it to be denied seem like a world dictator type move to me.
Yes, lets not try to uncover the reasons and ideologies behind his actions and why he inspired so many people to support him and commit horrible atrocities. Lets just leave it as 'he was insane', not learn anything from this period that we could use to prevent anything like that ever happening again and all will remain well.
Was wanting more land for your people really so insane?
@@yingyang1008 based
You could make the argument that it is happening again right now in the U.S. I truly believe that Donald Trump and his m.a.g.a gang, are wannabe Hitler and nazi's.
@@yingyang1008 If you're country is run by retards. Yes.
@@yingyang1008 No, but misunderstanding how the market works, "helping" your country by sinking it in massive debt, then trying to get out of that debt by starting a war with more than a half of the civilized world was... Well, if it wasn't insane, then it certainly was stupid AF.
Also, @OP: Judging by the workings of people like Fausci and Schwab, you can definitely understand why there's so much effort put into dismissing anyone who tries to understand the ideological foundations of socialism.
Considering how insane and random history can seem at times; I don’t blame people for wanting to believe something easier to explain yet more crazy
I mean like a looney tunes skit but with death and suffering is basically history in a nutshell
I think history only appears "insane" if one looks at it from a very high level. Once you begin to dig into the circumstances and prevailing thoughts and fears of the time, it begins to make a lot more sense. The only thing that's "insane" about history is that human decisions are often wild miscalculations and lead to consequences that we didn't anticipate.
@@stevej71393 true and the fact people prefer simiple answers not more involved ones
@@stevej71393 Nah, it's still insane. The history of mankind is history of total insanity and utter stupidity.
@@aerialmacaroon6312 The funny thing is Looney Tunes actually did cartoons featuring Hitler and Mussolini
Whetever he was a madman or not. What he did was still very wrong. Can't be forgiven.
Many seem to confuse delusion with insanity.
Listen to his speeches translated to English by AI. There is a reason why he's censored like crazy.
@@theguyof360 I was BLOWN away. It was unreal the words and thought process from that 1922 speech. Nothing about hate or violence, just concrete reasons why the Germans wanted their country and values back. The part where he talked about one side screaming democracy and the other freedom changing sides every 20 years in a uniparty was spot on to what has been gong on in America for 250 years. Now I understand why Patton said "we defeated the wrong enemy". They will write about Trump the same way
Hitler was demonically possessed. Its how he escaped 30 known assassination attempts. WWII was the 2nd attempt to destroy Christian Europe after the failure of WWI. Today, we see that legacy is almost fulfilled
@jasonmorgan27 People didn't follow Hitler because they wanted to murder people, but it still happened. He didn't just unite Germany, he ordered the invasions and murders of millions of eastern europeans. Yes, he can be understood for good before WW2, but we didn't fight the wrong enemy.
And even more confuse "history" for truth.
Oh my goodness, I had the exact same argument at University!
My lecture labelled Hitler & Station "monsters", I argued that monsters are works of fiction, these men were human, all too real and to make them into bogeyman makes them appear fictional.
I got thrown out of the class.
They should throw that teacher out of class.
Actually no, keep them there and just don't send your kids to the "schools", aka socialist indoctrination camps.
You got thrown out of class... IN UNIVERSITY???
FFS, has it got to that stage now where university lecturers treat their students as Secondary School kids?
Is it actually worth getting a degree anymore?
@@TheImperatorKnight University of Leicester, known locally as the madhouse because it was built as an asylum in the late 1790's.
Little has changed!
@@adamhickey396 Frequently. I quickly learned that there were right and wrong answers so I just got on with it, got my degree and moved on.
I advise my child not to bother unless she studies STEM.
Thrown out?
Did you remind your lecturer parasite that you were paying his/her wages?
To really understand history, you should attempt to identify with the perpetrators as well as the victims. The naive assumption that you aren't capable of evil makes you incredibly susceptible to become so.
Exactly Jason. Most lay people cannot achieve this
History is a struggle of groups against other groups for resources
I hope you get quoted by future philosophers.
I've been looking for a way of saying exactly this...
This is the point of Downfall and Conspiracy (2001).
I never thought hitler was insane, but I just assumed his mental health took a severe turn for the worse after 1943 when he was drugged up all the time and the pressure of the allies closing in, but in all honesty who wouldn't make irrational decisions in those circumstances.
Do more research
“Murderer’s are not monsters, there are men that’s the most frightening thing about them.”
Alice Sebold
It's like people can't wrap their mind around the idea that someone can hold ideological principles.
Just because I can understand the logic and reasoning flowing from a set of principles does not mean I am beholden to that reasoning.
If someone believes in eugenics, I can accept that they are still a sane and rational person while, myself, rejecting the notion that eugenics is an acceptable policy or goal.
I am beginning to understand why the current war propaganda is so childishly bad.
Exactly reasonable dose but mean true
Correct. I’ve seen so many people claiming “madman Putin” to justify many things.
Yes Putin is such a madman he became the decades long ruler of a global superpower that has carried out successful military operations before but because one gamble is currently going poorly obviously Putin has cancer and is crazy.
Because obviously a global superpower can’t have an interest in what it’s immediate neighbors do and might respond negatively if that neighbor starts making deals and being influenced by said global superpowers enemies.
What you're describing is something called logical validity. If something is logically sound then you agree with it wholesale (by definition), but if something is valid it might not be sound. This is because a valid syllogism logically follows from its base assumptions/principles, but its assumptions may be flawed. Something that is sound has correct logical flow and correct assumptions.
This topic used to be required to be taught in high school, but today that is not the case.
@@pain5835 Everyone has a world view. You're right.
@@dankmemes7423
True, although this problem is not a new one unique to our era or exempt from others. On some level, one makes a fundamental assumption about the behavior of people. Most "on the right" tend to presume that a person is logical from their own frame of mind. Even the most absurd behavior or ideas can be traced through some logical sequence, whether sound or not.
"The left" tends to assume their own mindset to be sound logic and anything outside of it is not only insanity, but an infectious insanity.
I love to point out Sowell's "A Conflict of Visions" every chance I get, and I think it touches on this topic. To "the constrained vision" - we are all pretty much the same animal and have flaws/weaknesses that can't be simply dismissed by good intentions or "inner awakenings." Even the smartest and wisest among us can fall to temptation or make silly errors of grave consequence that a toddler would make. The consequent tragedies and horrors which come from humanity need no special explanation aside from understanding how another animal, in that position, could arrive at those conclusions. The reason we have laws, tabboos, religions, etc is to try and head off these errors so that others don't make them. Because no person can completely see through to the consequences of their actions or may just be in a compromised state where what appears reasonable at the time would be a grave mistake by their own assessment at a later time. The capacity for evil is something we can never be rid of no matter how great our "enlightenment" as an individual may be.
For the "Unconstrained vision" - it is almost exactly the opposite. A person is capable of achieving a level of superior moral character which is immune to the trappings and failings of others. This 'enlightenment' is the realization of the inner perfection of the human being. Once we have thrown off the confines and shackles of 'the way things are' - we can see a more perfected form of what could/should be. There also seems to be a belief that we would collectively recognize someone further along this enlightened path and make them our leaders.
Thus, when someone who is charismatic and impactful, who then does horrible things - an explanation of how this was possible is required not as a matter of logic, but as a matter of moral purity/fidelity. Evil is not naturally human as the perfected/natural human is virtuous, compassionate, etc. Rosseau's noble savage, for example. A person's actions cannot merely be a failing resulting in evil - the moral basis for the action must be evil.
Thus, the actions of Hitler or the like are and must be incomprehensible. To find logic or reason in them is to ascribe logic or reason to evil - to justify it as being part of a valid higher order of reasoning. Thus risking something most of the unconstrained presumption do not want to engage with.
If people refuse to accept the leadership of the enlightened to build a perfect society where humans are liberated of their imperfections.... then they must not be educated.
And if, having been educated, they still insist they are morally sound in acting outside the guidance of the enlightened.... well, they must be evil.
And the only thing to do with evil is purge it.
The logical outcome of the cognitive bias of efforts to create an unconstrained world is one not too far removed from the course of actions taken by the Great Evils of their world view.
I believe that this is, perhaps intuitively, within the proverbial subconscious, understood. That the quest for a world free from evils results in one giant circular firing squad of mutual elimination.
This may be why they so fear contact with outside logic and rationales. Their own paradigm of humanity is extremely vulnerable to a logical hijacking toward the destruction of their fellows. So long as evil remains incomprehensible and the solution to their future nebulous, they can float their own actions and ideology upon the whims of good intentions and keep their condemnations focused upon the perceived evils contaminating their friends, family, etc.
Just because somebody does "Insane things" (like the Holocaust) doesnt mean they are actually mad!..After the war a number of psychologists tried to prove the NAZIS that did such terrible things were somehow different/evil...However (rather worryingly) experiments showed that if normal people are deemed free of responsibility they can often commit terrible acts..
This shocked a lot of the psychologists!!!
If given the right conditions, normal people could commit terrible acts.. look at how the unvaccinated were treated. If things would escalate, normal people that claim to be anti-fascist and morally superior would have no problem to throw innocent unvaccinated people into concentration camps and commit the same crimes that they claim to be fighting against.
Exactly how I see it… his actions where more than insane and ghoulish, but there was an actual ideology and purpose behind it that people often don’t try understanding to get the bigger picture.
There are probably two sides to it: Of course, the famed Milgram experiment drastically showed that the majority of humans is "capable to run a camp".
However, the cold-blooded rationality of industrially organized genocide also "required" on top of it an empathy--less bureaucracy, run by sociopaths.
I want everyone to comprehend that even today humans will commit the same level of genocide based on their beliefs. It can be lite or hardcore. Even holding your populace hostage and “reeducating” them can be a coined as form of lite genocide, but of the mind. This is why this painter is no different then people that neighbored him.
If we seriously want to act the morally righteous person, then I guess we better condemn America, Britain, France, Russia, for doing things that were considered similar in unethical behavior.
I suppose we should call Genghis Kahn the first “nazi”, for his participation in genociding populations during his era?
We need to stop acting as if we’re “better”. Unironically, you’re committing the same level of “evil”, by believing your morals are superior based on another’s. We are all flawed, we are all *him.*
Who else is here in 2024 after AI put Hitler’s speeches in English and revealed his arguments were sound and historically accurate?
Came here to say exactly this. The people he surrounded himself with were devils, his social policies and directives were atrocious and horrific. But his assessment of the situation in Germany post WWI was spot on.
If you haven’t, listen to his AI translated speech in Munich in 1922. Mind blowing. And I can clearly see exactly how and why he unanimously won the support all across Germany.
It’s not like the speeches were previously not understood… you simply never cared to check for translations or do them yourself, as hard as it may sound. There’s not a bunch of you people here acting as if the AI edits were eyes opening but in truth the revelation that you’ve only just had has long been out there. You simply are unable to dig deeper yourself and check for more unless it’s put in front of you on a silver platter.
@@BananaMilkishakei suspect you’re somewhere north of 70 years old and don’t appreciate the value of AI. I took that into consideration when replying. So yeah, the translated speeches have been available for decades. But to imply that reading text is more instructive than listening to the words, tone, inflections of emotion from an advanced replication of human voice may be the most simple minded take of 2024. So listen, sometimes it’s best to keep your thoughts to yourself and this was one of those times.
@@ShawnWi unless you delve a bit deeper and learn to understand the words spoken to you in the original. You can do that without knowing the entire language. The fact that the AI translations were the ones that FINALLY opened your eyes on where Hitler was deriving from, keeping in mind the societal norms of that time, tells me that previously you didn’t read into the topic too much and very likely encountered the AI edited videos on some TikTok format. I see what you did there with the age comment but I’ll bite: I’m in fact 20 and I use AI almost daily. The only thing you could really try and hit me with is that I assumed you found his message positive which, now that I look at your comment again, could be a bad and rushed assumption. Thank me later for making your case.
@@ShawnWibro needed an AI performance to indoctrinate him to nazism because his reading comprehension skills are poor womp womp
This is how I imagine the madman Hitler theory was born
Franz Halder in his retirement cottage thinking to himself "Wow, Hitler left me in charge for a long time even after I made so many errors and directly disobeyed his orders and caused the failure of several campaigns. Any other general would have been dismissed or shot but Hitler left me in charge up until halfway through the war, he must have been a madman for keeping me in charge so long"
It could just be the result of the History Channel having a lot of dead air to fill.
I know Halder was wrong about some things and was kind of a cautious pussy but what did he fuck up on the eastern front? I know he didn't want to invade france or czeckoslovakia and routinely underestimated the german army but I thought he was dismissed because he wanted to retreat from stalingrad?
It's a bit like the Italians blaming everything on Mussolini, as if the King, the Grand Council and the military were completely blameless.
How I imagine it happed was a bunch of senior allied personnel came together in California at the end of the war to discuss a way to reduce post-war tensions and excuse all the highly-qualified nazi engineers/scientists/generals etc that were too useful to kill. They couldn't agree on an idea that meeting but on the way back home, one of them saw a couple kids on a farm trying to teach their goat to ride on one of the new-fangled 'skate-boards' and had an epiphany. He was dismissed by reason of insanity by the department after he suggested that a skate-goat action figure was the answer, but it did inspire their own final solution to the problem which was an insane scapegoat figurehead controling the action.
This of course allowed all the german generals to be morally upstanding millitary geniuses and the scientists/engineers to be honest and brilliant men whos amazing innovations were misused by an evil leader (but think of all the good that these incredible people could do for the 'good' side!), rather than them all buying into an evil scheme to take over and control the world and then failing because they weren't good enough at their jobs. After all, who would gaze upon a mass grave and want to empathise with the one who made it?
Or it was born around the Nuremberg trials. It is very easy to blame a dead mad man who can’t defend himself.
Then the idea was continued to circulate as you were not allowed to talk about their ideology. Calling him “mad” is the only answer you can reach when you are given BS reason for why he did what he did. Of it doesn’t make any sense, the story you have been told isn’t supposed to make sense. And only a mad man believes in it.
A. J. P. Taylor had long argued Hitler was not a mad man for the same reasons you have said.
If Hitler had been captured and put on trial his lawyers could have pleaded the Mad Man defence claiming he was not responsible for his actions.
Hitler (like Charles Manson) would never have allowed it. And if he had, he would have lost, at least under US and, as I understand it, UK law. (Stalin, of course, didn't even want the top Nazis to get trials, he wanted them shot out of hand. And under Soviet law, the fact that the Party was prosecuting you to begin with was irrefutable proof of your guilt because the Party would never prosecute innocent people.)
Yeah that sure would've been an issue and put a spin on the Nuremberg prosecution before Hitler walks free from the court in a sea of camera flashes saying "they tried to blame me for starting a war the British declared and label me evil after the firebombing of Dresden and so what if the inmates sent east were charged for their transportation? Adolfh Eichmanns wages didn't pay themselves!" 🤣🤣
Why did they allow Hitler to escape justice at the end of WWII?
Checking contemporary press reports there was never any evidence produced that Hitler died in May 1945. History has been rewritten at a later date suggesting that the Soviets discovered his body outside the bunker. No reports in 1945 carry this.
Quite how I got here listening to hours and hours of monologue on Hitler I have no idea. But I have never for a moment thought it pro Hitler.
WWI and WWII were both extremely tragic chapters in our history. The 20th Century was a failed Century on many levels.
The times I've heard you use the "madman Hitler" criticism, it was always backed up with the evidence that Hitler was rational as any other person and your comment led to a more detailed discussion of what was happening on a larger scale. This led to a better understanding.
We can look at one of the more common and prominent "madman Hitler" arguments I have heard over the years which is that "Hitler should not have declared war on the United States."
Yes, Germany declaring war on the most powerful economic power in the world does not appear to be something a sane man would do. But this ignores the fact that events were already growing rapidly beyond Hitler's control. The US and Germany were already in a shooting war in the Atlantic since September 1941. Britain was feeling the effects of the Atlantic War. Feigning neutrality could only last so long, and delaying direct war would nix any hopes that Japan might be convinced to invade the Russian Far East taking pressure off the Eastern Front which has stalled at this point.
Such calculations were not done by a madman, nor were they made by a brilliant mind. They were made in reaction to the events taking place.
My saying that "declaring war on the United States was not Hitler's biggest mistake" is only challenging a common over-simplified narrative. Rather than seeing him as a raving lunatic, you can see the larger strategic picture playing out that Hitler was reacting to. As TIK pointed out, seeing him as human also reminds us that monsters such as Hitler are not to be seen as an anomaly to be dismissed, but as a threat to be constantly vigilant against.
I think it's dangerous to overlook the distinction between "insane" and "irrational". Hitler's decision to declare war on the US may have involved rational calculations, but it was also premised in part on his irrational beliefs: mainly, the notion that a racially impure society run by Jews and socialists couldn't possibly defeat the pure, Aryan German nation led by National Socialism. Hitler assumed that because _he_ saw the US as a contemptible, corrupt society, its own citizens (at least the ones who counted, the Aryan ones) must see it the same way, and would never fight for it.
This is even more true of the Japanese decision to go to war with the US and UK. Yes, I fully understand the strategic considerations that went into this decision, but there were numerous rational voices in the Japanese leadership (most notably Yamamoto) who understood how hopeless such a war would be against countries that had industrial economies literally dozens of times larger than Japan's. (Of course it is possible for a poorer nation to win a limited defensive war against much stronger powers, particular if it has covert support from another superpower - Vietnam being a good example - but that wasn't the sort of war Japan was starting). The decision can only be understood in light of the fundamentally irrational belief that the superior martial and spiritual virtues of the Japanese race would make up for the massive industrial and technological superiority of the Allies. Of course, we can all see how this turned out in practice.
This may be easier to understand in the southern US when we look at our own past folly in this regard - thinking that the superior virtue of an agrarian society led by genteel aristocrats would make up for the large population advantage and fantastic industrial advantage of the northern states. Of course, the Confederates at least had the more rational possibility that the northerners wouldn't be willing to fight to keep other states in the Union against their will. The crowning folly of the Japanese leaders was failing to understand that beginning the war the way they did would certainly galvanize the American public to fight the war to its bitter ultimate end.
Are we really going to pretend like Hitler's parents weren't cousins? Or the fact that Hitler himself went to seek psychological counseling for himself?
The more nuanced, and ACTUAL point, is that mental illnesses are not excuses. Even if Hitler was a 'Madman' it's only one part of who he is. Spoiler alert, lots of historical figures had mental illnesses and didn't commit genocide.
Not to mention that someone can have a mental illness, and still have a 'brilliant' mind in certain topics.
Yes, agreed that was a good example that blew away me as well.
Cough MAGA cough
I'm curious, have you ever read his declaration of war on the U.S.? The U.S. had declared War on Germany through its actions and FDR was never going to officially declare war on Germany, he was goading him to do it, FDR did the same with Japan, he took actions that only make sense if you are looking to start a fight.
I believe one of the Naval fleet commanders addressing his men in a memo that the U.S. is at war with Germany. It's just the American people don't know that yet.
I think the Good and Evil dichotomy is a childish way of evaluating the Men of those times.
I dont believe any of them were good people. FDR, Churchill, Stalin, and Hitler all bare responsibility.
That pop up picture of Klaus Schwab caught me so off guard...too funny. Clever, clever man.
Yep
Lol
Did you know Klaus Schwab is related to the Rothschilds.
People cant accept the fact that they would probably have been NAZIS themselves in similar sircumnstances
@@bigmouthstrikesagain4056 you don't understand hitler or klaus
There are a lot of WWII myths.
If we were allowed to listen to his banned speeches, maybe we could come to understand what kind of a man he was, and what he meant.
I can see the socialists and communists defending the mad man view. They don't want throw too much shade at a socialist
They don't really engage much with groups holding counter views to their own. In general, they tend to just insult people and views they don't like. The subtle premise is that their view -is- that of the common human and thus anything that falls outside of that is some form of pollution of that person's true nature or there is something fundamentally not human about them.
Engaging in a discussion about principles, ideals, etc - that recognizes foreign views as being potentially human. That makes one's head hurt.
Nein *
Probably the most fatuous comment in this section, and that's saying something.
For the same reason, they always blame the almost atrocities universally committed by communist regimes on the particular foibles of the individual leaders. Communism itself couldn't possibly responsible, it just got hijacked by bad leaders - in every society where it's ever been tried. They also love the No True Scotsman defense: Stalin, Pol Pot, et al weren't really communists, because no true communist would ever do the things they did.
I can see rightwingers desperately trying to pretend Hitler was a leftist when his views on race, immigration, homosexuals and transsexuals, music and art, patriotic education, and the rights of women all match the modern Republican party.
I lived under the apartheid South African Government. My experience is that a system like apartheid isn't made a reality by madmen. You needed to be rational and calculating to think up a system like that. So rational that even biblical references were presented to support the apartheid system.
With people like Hitler, they represent our darkest sides. To tap into that, you must be sane to be able to commit the evil that was possible. Simply because to commit these evils, you needed to willfully suppress your guilt.
Wow well said.
Good words.
What if you have no or limited guilt? Or you're brainwashed enough to justify evil things?
People who would support or create such a system have something seriously wrong with their minds.
@@realMaverickBuckley I agree those dynamics exist but I think MrFarr007s point still stands because while there tend to be a lot of psychopaths in in power, not everyone who is carrying out the evil is completely devoid of conscience, and those who still have some conscience will need to suppress it in order to violate the rights of innocent people.
Yes people can become brainwashed into thinking that those violations are for a greater good, but I don't think someone with a conscience can ever completely remove the guilt that comes from doing wrong to the innocent, and hence the need for willful suppression of that guilt as referenced by the OP.
In other words the percentage of both order followers and decision makers within a corrupt regime that are truly devoid of any scraps of conscience and thus have no need to suppress guilt is probably a minority in my estimation. The rest of the evil doers are people who have a conscience, but have been lead astray through false ideologies, and taught to suppress their natural moral compass.
That's why at the Bohemian Grove every year, many of the social engineers gather to hold a "Cremation of Care" ritual, which is a ritual designed to destroy ones moral compass so that one can engage in the evil acts they will be called upon to do in the coming year without any lingering moral reservations.
In fact this ritual involves the burning of the effigy of a baby on an altar, and that effigy is referred to as "Innocence."
So that right there tells you that a lot of these people are not primary psychopaths but instead actively seek to degrade their own conscience, or as they see it, "remove the shackles of moral reasoning." A lot of the people who run the world basically believe in Social Darwinism, aka the idea that might makes right, and therefore they see having a moral compass as a weakness and something that should be cast off to attain ultimate power over others through violence, theft, and coercion.
But those are just my two cents. I'd love to hear your thoughts on all that if you happen to see this.
Evil is made by mundane men in mundane jobs, Auschwitz could not have occurred without railway schedules.
I think it’s hilarious that people still act like “I would’ve done something” when it’s quite clear right now that, no they would not have. You can’t separate yourself from these past characters
Pay attention people, they are painting Trump in the same light.
Genghis Khan was also not a madman. Him and his clans slayed far more than Hitler. Is Putin mad? No. The above are/were all narcissists with absolute power. And we all know power corrupts. Cheers Stuart.
why dont we ever hold stalin and mao to hitlers criteria
Putin may well be mad.
Andrew
No he really isnt.
@@corneliuscapitalinus845 yes he is. The "little green men" invasion of 2014 made rational if evil sense, this one is madness.
@@juanledesma6418 Because Stalin was on the good side at the end of WW2 and Mao is an icon for much of leftishes and holding him to Hitlers criteria will bring upon you a MIGHTY REEEEEEEEEEEE and -9999999999 social credit points :)
I seem to recall that when the movie 'Der Untergang' was released, several American critics treated it quite harshly, accusing the director of 'humanizing' Hitler. The fact that it was the first film to have German-mother-tongue speakers made the suspension of disbelief very easy; thus allowing the audience to relate to Hitler as a human.
What did they think Hitler was, an alien? A literal demon from Hell? No, the human race doesn't get off that easily, he was one of us. How can we possibly prevent future Hitlers from gaining power and following a similar path if we don't try to understand what it is about human beings that makes us able to do such terrible things?
It helped demystify Hitler as this anti-Christ like figure and made you realize he was just a regular human being with all the same flaws we also have. The thing people can’t fathom is if you met any of the the top Nazi’s and had no idea who they’re were, what they thought, and what they had done you think that they were were fairly likable, well-spoken, educated people. Hitler before becoming meth-addled was actually very pleasant and playful in person, liked teasing his friends and could even be said to be a bit effeminate. Goebbels held a PhD. and was a dazzling conversationalist well-versed on many topics such as history, culture, politics, and art. Göring was equally as intelligent, fun-loving, had good taste, and knew how to throw a proper party. He’d be your favorite drinking buddy if you didn’t know any better and you’d be fascinated by his war and hunting stories as well as his trophy collections. Point is these were regular people who chose to go down the path they did and the fact that they either killed themselves or fled makes evident they know what they did was wrong.
@@lufsolitaire5351 Christ and Hitler were advocates of sacrifice.
@@lufsolitaire5351 well the last bit is rather bias. They either killed themselves as to decide their own fate, or some other obscure reasoning (occultish Maybe, like reincarnation). Fleeing was obviously due to being outnumbered and loss of power. Many of Reich, who were found in their elder, still believed in their cause.
Still despite being “regular people”, they weren’t aliens, but mere humans with different opinions that others object to, because we were either conditioned to, or we did not grow up in Germany to understand them. Quite frankly, most people would rather have these humans walk among them, then the hardcore communists who exist today.
Evil and insanity are two different things that don't necessarily go together .
The insane don't normally rise to the leadership of nations .
Name calling only obscures our understanding of people and events.
7:55 You missed the global atrocities of the🇬🇧empire
There's never been any empires that didn't commit atrocities but by and large they do take mankind forward .
Jordan Peterson does some amazing talks/lectures looking into Hitler's personality. One of the scariest was when he told a class if they were alive in 1930's Germany 99% of them would have been Nazi's.
I agree with him on this point. Given what's just happened in the past few years, at least 80% of the population are already willing to commit murder in the name of "social justice" (which is definitely not National Socialism or anything).
@@TheImperatorKnight Have you watched James Lindsay’s breakdown where he compares the Critical ___ ideologies to Marxism? Very interesting needless to say.
@@TheImperatorKnight Mate i think that you are a bigot or something
@@connorlarsen7199 It is Marxism with some nouns replaced.
If given the right conditions, normal people could commit terrible acts.. look at how the unvaccinated were treated. If things would escalate, normal people that claim to be anti-fascist and morally superior would have no problem to throw innocent unvaccinated people into concentration camps and commit the same crimes that they claim to be fighting against.
The funniest part is:
If understanding Hitlers ideology automatically makes you a nazi then that would mean that Hitler was right all along in some form. It would mean that he knew something that we havent considered. 😂💀
This would make truth itself evil.... Seems congruent with some lefties
so afterall the western governments are nazis in their truest form? 🤣
Absolutely true.
Understanding one's ideology, psyche and reasoning doesn't make their reasoning true and acceptable. I don't understand why it's ok to study other criminals motivations and reasoning but Hitler must always be insane and a madman.
It really doesn't differ from studying why pedophiles, rapists, serial killers, thieves and even financial scammers do what they do.
Understanding a political ideology requires you to appreciate the values and priorities it entails. It requires you to compare and contrast, it does not require you to share any particular values or priorities as a starting point.
@@pavlovsdog2551 I propably understanded you wrong but do you claim that in order for you to understand like Nazism for an example, you should also appreciate racism, intolerance and other horrible ideologies it entails?
Thank you, I am one of those ex-Nazis. And I am now a conservative Democratic Capitalist. Thank you So much for exposing and teaching, so that Nazi spell got rid of my soul, thanks! 🇩🇪🙏❤️🕊️
Capitalism and communism are under the same rule, look at America’s culture today. If conservatives truly want to break away from the rotting cultural-ma*xism then why haven’t they fully denounced it? How come they aren’t planning to get rid of the federal reserve? President Kennedy was about to do that but he was k*IIed for this. Ask yourself why didn’t the Uk, France, and the USA focus on eliminating communism first in WW2? They funded the Soviet Union and made it more powerful in WW2. Far less issues in our timeline would be happening today if they didn’t focus on the wrong enemy, as general Patton said. All the bad things we have right now that people accuse the "woke" for are only the ultimate result of liberalism. This is the logical path this system leads to, and it’s going to be our civilization's destruction and ultimately the end of the full European descent Western population. Unfortunately conversatives can't fix it because they are trying to conserve the very system that has us in this mess to begin with. This is the reason why we need a change. We need it in order to survive. You been rebrainwashed, sir. It’s not called "the biological worldview" without a reason. Also most people don't even know the truth about the "bad guys" of WW2. Watch The Greatest Story Never ToId and Europa The Last BattIe. Only after you've heard also the otherside's view you can determine what is the truth.
this is a joke right?
There's no nazi spell. There are nazi arguments and they can be convincing or not
Being a capitalist is no different from being a nazi so clearly ur joking
Its not just a phase mom.
All these years I’ve been told H was crazy , racist, and wanted world dominance. Quite frankly I agreed because I couldn’t understand what he was saying. Now, there’s videos here on UA-cam that translates his speeches though AI. Now I understand where he was coming from.
I’m a Psychiatrist and I just so happen to love your channel TIK. I think that Hitler was mentally Ill in that he clearly was psychopathic but its also rather obvious to me that he did not suffer from a psychotic disorder such as Schizophrenia . Rising from Corporal in the Germany army to Chancellor of the German nation requires you to make high resolution mental maps of the world as well as the ability to navigate objective reality in a sophisticated manner. These abilities are generally lacking in psychotic illnesses. Psychotic disorders almost always involve disorders of thought which make it difficult to even hold a menial job, let alone become Chancellor of one of the most advanced countries on earth. That being said he clearly suffered from something akin to Antisocial Personality Disorder ( the more severe presentations of this disorder being considered psychopathy). I have always wondered to what degree his drug abuse led to his odd thinking later in the war. Hitler was inclined towards paranoia and conspiratorial thinking and I think these manners of thinking were worsened by substance abuse . I also believe he must have suffered from something like PTSD as well, it’s inconceivable to me that you could spend 4 years in a trench and not come out with significant trauma. Thanks for all you do TIK.
He most likely started using cocaine during the first Great War. During the first Great War, he was running on the frontlines delivering letters. He must've used something and never stopped using it. PTSD is a probable cause as well and could've used drugs for that as well.
@@t.n.e.4884 I am 100% certain he did not use any drugs with him knowing. He was a man of high morals. Vegetarian, no alcohol, no sigarettes. I don't believe for a second he knowingly would use any intoxicants. It is contrary to his personality.
Well, I am not a psychiatrist so I am going to ask a question based on what I read: I was told by psychiatrists that psychopaths have a very high sense of self preservation and that it's very uncommon for them to harm themselves, let alone kill themselves. Based on that I thought hitler wasn't a psychopath, because he ended up commiting suicide in his bunker.
Was this assumption wrong and it's actually not uncommon for psychopaths to kill themselves?
Very tricky to diagnose the man without any personal meetings
Aren't we judging him on what were considered fairly normal thoughts in at least the late 1800s to WW1 Germany? Their colonialism age. Not just Africa, but also their thoughts on the "Jewish problem" or the "Polish problem" of that age, etc.
2:49 "I guess I'm not a secret Nazi then. Well in that case, I'll scrap my plans to be the next head of The World Economic Forum."
Subtle.
I watched a docu a long time ago. It was called Adolf Hitler the greatest story never told. Probably difficult to find now, but it was an eyeopener
Hi TiK,
So my wife’s grandfather was one of the first “embedded army photographers” he later produced a short film that details his time in Bastogne after the siege of Bastogne.
It was filmed on 16mm film for which we have the original print and sound BUT we also found a VHS tape that has a copy, albeit quite poor.
I’m going to digitize it and post it soon I’ll send you a link I think you will find it very interesting.
In it he goes back to Bastogne (somewhere in the 70’s judging by the attire) and interviews people, shows photos he took and contrasts them with the current landscape etc.
I'd have to argue this channel's helped me keep from falling into the same problems Hitler did. All I could hear echoed was that Hitler was totally insane, combined with the absolute absurdity of the ultra-left "education". The sole alternate viewpoint was the neo-nazi's and the like. Once that side started saying things I could investigate as true, I had to take everything they said seriously. The nuts proved rather sufficiently that Hitler wasn't insane, showed that the same absurdity popularized today existed before the Nazi takeover, and postulated that if the natural response then was a Hitler figure, why shouldn't we do the same again? And if that therefor is the best response, how could it be wrong?
TiK's information dense reporting of history handily fixed that.
Agreed, he gives ripe historical perspectives. It is important to take into consideration many historical views and accounts to ensure avoidance of the same mistakes. Ideology is just a vehicle, not the end goal - being the trap of dogmatism. In the shape it currently manifests itself, there is good reason to believe this time our victory will be total.
What the fuck were you reading on the left that was so confusing as a communist reading marx was just natural curiosity but I had to force myself to read riding the tiger and Mein Kampf and all the neo nazi required reading which doesn't explain how anything actually happens in history while dialectics can at least be used if you support proletarian rule or not
So instead of doing your own research after u realized there are problems with how left perceives things like this and talks about them, you decided to just pivot to the other extreme echo chamber ideology? Jesus dude…. Glad you got out of it.
@@Notimportant253 It's more that all the sources I'd had to start with glossed over the bulk share of it just to demonize what Hitler did, while reducing WHY he did what he did to nothing more than a foot note. Then those same people started claiming he did what he did because he was white. The ultra-far right handily (and rightfully) shot the second claim down, and (wrongfully) cast aspersions that the first claim was also farcical.
I mean you only need to learn a bit about Genghis Khan to learn, that an Asian, was the first to commit genocide.
The extremist left are hiding reality, because they want to act morally righteous, when they’re capable of committing in the same atrocities they will point to others. It’s a way to control the narrative and it’s people, if you are able to portray yourself as ultimately “good”.
We are all flawed, we are all “evil”.
Actually, it's:
1939-40: "LUCKY" Hitler
1941-43: "UNREALISTICALLY OPTIMISTIC" Hitler
1944-45: "DELUSIONAL/DRUG-ADDLED" Hitler
Hitler greatly underestimated the Soviet ability to bounce back from defeat. Even his generals at first were very optimistic about the entire situation. Until they got bogged down and started to have increased losses as well as facing superior armor. But by then it was too late to change the tide.
@@dgray3771 anyone with a brain would know without the western allies the soviets would've been crushed
@@BajanEnglishman51 You think that Russia ends at Moscow? Russia is a whole different animal compared to the UK or France. Even the USA is the same. You take the capital and it is over. With Russia that just does not work.
Everything he predicted came true.
No. Not at all.
I think this "You're defending Hitler!" knee-jerk reaction comes from the diabolical combination of two strange bedfellows:
A) Post-Modern Nice-ism. I.e. Don't offend anyone. Right or wrong don't matter. Just be nice.
And
B) Modern Cynicism. I.e. People can't possibly just mean what they say. We have to preemptively assume alterior motives, manipulation, and power-plays. Especially if we get the hint that the person may disagree with us.
"Hearing a person out" is code for "I tacitly support them and am just making excuses." And "discussing ideas" is code for "let us do our evil Propaganda in peace." "Free Speech" = "Hate mongering." That kind of thing.
Together, these two forces combine into a situation where it is impossible to bring up real evil in an objective and critical way so we can learn from it and avoid it in the future. Evil can only be caricatured and mocked, never taken seriously.
If someone wants to discuss something as "not nice" and (for some reason) controversial as Hitler, they must have an alterior motive. Prima facia, they *must* either be a) a crypto-fascist trying to sneak in an acceptance of fascism, or b) trying to find a way to use the label of "Nazi" as an underhanded label to silence their opponents, which is itself rather Nazi-esque behaviour and also exactly what the "anti-Nazi" themself is doing.
For example:
A: "You know, that economic policy you are advocating is only a couple minor steps from Corporatism, and we've seen how that structure is not necessarily conducive to..."
B: "Are you calling me a Nazi?! He's calling me a Nazi! I win by default!"
A: 🤦♂️
There’s a Hit. Lerrrr ai translation speech on UA-cam , in the speach he makes 1000% sense it’s crazy the censorship
Judged by the standards of the day - desiring more land and believing in the supremacy of your people was pretty much par for the course
As for hating Stalin and being petrified of Communism - that seems pretty reasonable to me
It’s happening right now, by the alleged victims
I've personally converted a few people away from fascism by discussing their ideology with them and why it doesnt make sense.
The other problem with calling Hitler and neo nazis insane, if they used logic be it flawed to move towards their theory, explaining its flaws can show them its logical contradictions.
What arguments did you use to convert them?
@@SuperToughFish A few
Explaining that fascism is a left wing ideology and shares allot of traits with communism (if someone is anti communist and understands the flaws of communism they can see that pretty clearly). So pointing out how both are based on historical determinism, have heavily state controlled economies, believe in historical determinism, one uses class consciousness and the other uses an ethno or nationalist class consciousness instead.
Explaining that fascist governments in fact are anti strength in the sense of punishing the indivdual that challenges the state and rewarding the submissive. If the person is of a Nietzhean bent this shows the inheritent contradiction.
Basically pointing out fascism is a de facto socialist, nepotism system in practice.
The problem is most people who engage with fascists are communists and socialists so it's leave your radical collectivist ideology and join ours.
Instead of telling someone soda is bad for them it's telling them drink Pepsi not coke, Pepsi is actually healthy. Kind of a hard case to put forth.
A Marxist often I've seen has to resort to just fascism evil, nazis no fun, because to argue against fascism or nazism would mean also arguing against allot of points of communism.
Argue from a detached stance looking at it logically and talking about the points and listen and respond. Don't attack the person of be condescending.
Have enough trust that fascism is bad so you don't have to use any rhetorical tricks.
@@itsanit123 this isn't meant to downplay what you've done (kudos. It's truly admirable to talk these people out of their extremism) but I think it's sadly easier to show fascists how wrong they are by showing them they are just socialists and collectivists themselves. What's really hard is convincing socialists that they are basically Nazis. Maybe without the racial part, but still with the same inherent end game evils. Socialist are so convinced that the Nazis are thier polar opposites, when in reality they are their very own brother.
@@Biggiiful This is true.
I think part of this is culture.
Walk into a room and say Hitler wasn't that bad.
Now walk into the same room and say Stalin wasn't that bad.
Try defending Mussolini, next try defending Trotsky.
Someone who is a fascist in this day and age is more likely to be an independent thinker who has been misinformed and misguided.
Less people who become socialists have thought about it. Allot do so because its part of their social atmosphere, artists, academics etc...Also they have more to lose in abandoning it.
If you're in a graduate program in allot of places, have fun being openly free market.
So this makes it harder to engage with by argument.
@@itsanit123 Yes, fascism is just a disguised form of socialism. Fascists are far-leftists, just like marxists (communists). So then, the question is: why try to deradicalize only fascists and not communists? Why focus only on the fascists and ignore the marxists? Since both are far-left authoritarian regimes that are responsible for massive genocides. Why one far-left variant is more dangerous then the other?
I would say that the real danger are the marxists. Fascists are just an irrelevant minority with no power, hated by everyone. However, the marxists are numerous, they are in position of power, and are able to control the narrative. The simple fact that we are talking about the fascists like they are the only danger is the product of marxist narrative, of their manipulation of history, the painting of fascists as right-wing radicals and only wrongdoers in history, while ignoring or denying the mass crimes of totalitarian communist regimes all over the world.
They never found proof of any order coming from him that called for the liquidating of prisoners of certain ethnicities,on the contrary ,evidence abounds that he had an agreement with them to move them to israel. So now,exactly what law did he brreak?
He broke the law by not letting the forever victims rule Germany via the banks
He had all the traits of a psychopath. There’s no denying that.
Yeah. And that's his point. Psychopaths and sociopaths have ASPD. This is not insanity; those with ASPD still know right from wrong and have agency. This is why those with it often try to get a diagnosis more in line with schizophrenia or some other valid form of insanity-it makes them unable to be charged with their crimes in full because they're “mad.” They then go to psych hospitals instead of prisons, hence the desire to be ruled as insane. Common misconception due to overuse of the term psychopath.
What a damn leap that guy took. Him being sane actually makes it worse imo. Insanity may somewhat morally absolve him of the guilt but him being sane actually makes it way worse.
As a modern example, imagine totally sane people forcing other totally sane people to get injected by a totally sus chemical. That sounds crazy 🥴
People killed People before Hitler was born
Yea, totally not cool. Dude was clearly insane. He booted international banker influence from his country and DRAMATICALLY improved the standard of living for everyone in Germany within a few years. Offered peace repeatedly... but those bankers pressured Churchill and got what they wanted in the end, including a new country that we are still paying for to this very day... AWESOME!!! Glad everything turned out well. The standard of living under this system is clearly going up for the average person in the countries that supported overthrowing him too!!! Things just keep getting better for everyone!!! Oh wait...That's not true at all. Standard of living is in perpetual decline... Huh, I wonder what it could possibly be???
“Go to the secret Nazi occult meeting on the moon.”
Lmao, what a classic.
He killed a lot of people? Not personally. So did Stalin, Mao. The Germans were trying to emulate GB as the world's foremost colonial power. It took GB a good part of 400 to 500 years to achieve that. The Huns were hoping to achieve that distinction in a much shorter period. A lot of feelings were going to get bulldozed over to achieve that
As I was listening to your fine video my mind wandered to the concentration camp photo albums that were discovered a few years ago. The photos show the men and women who ran the camps eating blueberries, on vacation, having a few beers, playing with their kids and dogs. These people were just like us, except their day job was doing horrible things to innocent people. Their normalcy shocks the conscience.
Remember, that our 2022 Western Progressive-Liberal sensibilities are very different from the sensibilities of 1940 Nazi Germany. I'm certain that in 1940 Nazi Germany it wasn't that hard to find a demographic of the population that was both full of racists and bigots willing to kill whomever they decided was subhuman.
So many of them went on to pretend they were the good guards, that only beat them a little, or smuggled the children food etc.
It is so much easier to pretend someone else was the problem, someone else made them do it, and Hitler was the top of the stack.
The problem ultimately being people are inherently weak, none of the things the Nazi’s did could have been done without the support of millions. Who would then go on to pretend they had no choice.
The nazis idea of "innocent" and the modern idea of "innocent" are two completely seperate concepts. If you were to tell those people back then the jews, gipsies, disabled, prisoners of war and political opponents were innocent then they would strongly disagree.
The scariest part of evil men is often that they are sane. Any of us could become evil; that's why we have to take it seriously. Good video, TIK.
Of course they have to be sane to be able to do those kinds of evil
I personally think he was sane at the start of the war, but by the end he was so destroyed by drug use and stress that he probably had a few screws loose
The book “The Myth of German Villainy” by Benton Bradberry is good reading for anyone curious about the German POV in the aftermath of ww1 and Weimar Republic all the way to Hitlers appointment to chancellor to the beginning of ww2- the end of ww2. So much more was at stake than we are taught in school.
It's a defence mechanism, for those unable to objectively think, it's safer to believe he was insane than the best part of a nation agreed with him and his ideas and core beliefs.
Only problem with such a belief is that it fails to explain how he got so popular and how he got so powerful.
Dr fauchi
Exactly correct. "Not guilty by reason of insanity" is a valid defense strategy in modern criminal law. When successfully argued, it absolves a perpetrator of responsibility for his/her actions. Their victims remain just as aggrieved, but the legal system is prevented from imposing sentence for the crimes committed. The same applies when Hitler is identified as mad.
This is why Downfall was such an important movie. It shows that he was human, and that under the certain circumstances, anybody can become capable of immense evil.
They should show that moviebin schools
“History is a set of lies agreed upon”-somebody
Hehe, all the comments you showed were like: "Your Videos are great but they would be better if you'd stick to the mainstream narrative and don't draw your own conclusions."
Well thats some valid critisism right there. Don't think. "We are here for entertainment not education. Put away the nasty thought provoking stuff."
I am glad that you are, how you are.
Edit: "Next critique be like: Your Videos are great but could you please talk less and make the Animations more flashy?" 😄
Well. People that don't have brainpower to digest good grade stuff ask for tiktok like content
This is one of the big problems. And you hit on this a lot, which is what I love about your videos. It's easier for man to imagine evil as insanity, inhumane, and esoteric (only understood by very few EVIL men). It also puts you in a fantasy world where many believe that it is easy to identify evil, and it takes the same image as the evil villain who wants to just burn it all down. It makes living less painful because it puts evil in a fantastical realm, where certain people that fit within the same image from history will be reborn into insanity. We MUST come to accept that evil is truly within all of us. We must interpret history as the monster, not as the persecuted. This hurts the hearts of many to think this, BUT unless you can come to peace with that reality, we will be destined to travel the path of destruction.
I comment rarely on YT but I´d like to say that your channel is a true gem. The lessons are refreshing and sometimes challenging the common narrative, especially when it comes to topics like these.
What about the other 108 times people tried to get “them” out of their country?
Years ago I tried to explain my opinion that Hitler wasn't insane for the same reasons you have just given. I'm so glad I never made a video though as people didn't seem to understand that it made his various crimes much more horrendous. Well done.
i agree
My opinion is that Hitler was stupid
@@meirakaique8340 Kind of.
The fact he didn't properly commit into taking down the UK and on top of that starting a campaign in Africa (before beheading the colonies)and the Soviet Union was certainly beyond idiotic.
Putting ideology before pragmatism.
Mussolini starting his stupid Greek campaign instead of using all the manpower available to seize the oil fields in Africa and the Middle-East.
I think a big issue is that many people think in white/black patterns. Someone who ordered such vast atrocities must therefore suck at military strategy, be cruel towards animals, have no sense for arts, no ability to hold speeches that attract a lot of people, etc, etc.
This exact kind of thinking leads to people like Hitler gaining and maintaining power. And this exact line of thinking is politics in the US now.
Something also, I agree with your point that Hitler was not clinically insane and he knew exactly what he was doing, but also we should remember that Hitler was tweaking off copious amounts of stimulating drugs including meth, cocaine, opioids, steroids, etc. for just about everyday.
If people would have just paid attention in school they would KNOW that 200 years ago when England elected hitler that people didn’t think the same way we do today. They didn’t know much at all. I mean they didn’t even have the tv or internet so the only only way that people could get information was through the newspapers which means it wasn’t free, you had to BUY a newspaper everyday! So most the poor people couldn’t even afford to do that and most of them couldn’t read either! I mean for the rich people in England back then that could read and afford to buy a paper everyday, how could they have possibly known that the leader they elected would go to war with Italy 3 long years later! They couldn’t have known. If people would just use their brain and think a little bit and actually learn stuff, then they wouldn’t be so paranoid.
If Hitler was a mad man then Churchil, Roosevelt and Stalin were also mad.
I see examples of his sort of behavior in our elite leaders everyday, and in every part of history I read about. He has a lot of company. Cold and calculating is a common trait. The people who can not follow your logic are their life's blood. The path Hitler trod is well beaten and remains fresh, it is the path of the powerful.
Can't give sociopathic personalities a conscious. In fact they don't want one. They view not having empathy as having an advantage over what they consider sheep.
@@johncameron2241 Empathy for your fellow citizens is the root of the desire for control of the economy and control of resources.
Read Marx, read Mein Kampf, and read the New Testament. Two of those sources put demands on the society to which the individual must be subject for the greater good. One puts an onus on the individual to act charitably towards their neighbors and to deny selfishness for the spiritual good of the individual.
> Cold and calculating
Mans life requires a passionate commitment to a focused mind.
No greater evil has been done then in the name of the greater good :
BIGMOUTH 2023
Tbh I just find the entire logic of saying who ever doesn't acts according to their morality is insane completely messed up. Not only does it lets them to believe that they are inmune to this beliefs (which would make them more vunerable to ending up like them), but it also sets a pretty messed up precident of how they want to threath actualy mentaly disable people.
Mentally disabled people are usually removed from society. Calling someone mad usually means you want them to be locked up without trial.
The victors write history.
Alexander the great kills several millions: brilliant strategist
Some austrian dude did the same: 😮
I don't agree with every conclusion you have. But I have no reason to question your authenticity or honesty. I believe your historical analysis comes from a deep desire to find the truth.
You have given honest treatment on war crimes and the Holocaust. And you are unapologetic about showing who did what when whatever their status in public opinion. What more can I ask for?
TIK, I deeply respect you. And I'm not just saying that or blowing it out my backside to pander to someone that holds some measure of popularity, I'm completely serious. I respect you. I may even go as far as to say you're a figure I look up to, for reasons of your honesty, integrity, and dedication. And this video only deepens that respect for you for reasons thrice fold, by which I'll explain here (EDIT: I just realized how long this post got, and I know you're very busy. I completely understand if you can't get through it all, but nevertheless I'll leave it here):
1) Honesty. You do not care about pre-established narratives. You do not care about upholding the (double quotes added purposefully) ""correct politics"" or having what one particular political side deems to be the "correct" opinion. Nor do you care about pandering to the popular agenda. You only care about the *truth*. I believe that all historians, even the misguided ones, are at heart truthseekers. Our love of history can stem from many origins, but no matter what that origin may be it is because of that love for history that we seek the truth of it. "The victor writes the history books," a very accurate saying I do believe, and I feel the majority of historians know this to be true. And because we know it to be true and seek truth itself, many of us know better than to glimpse history from only one side.
Your average historian these days might say something along the lines of "who cares about the opinions of those who served in the Wehrmacht, members of the NSDAP, or those in the government of the Third Reich. Due to the fact that their crimes are so heinous, their side of the story, opinions, and world views are entirely irrelevant". Now we can go back and forth on whether that's correct or not, but the fact of the matter is, how can we EVER hope to get even a glimpse of the full picture if we don't have both sides of the story? How can we finish the puzzle if half of the pieces are missing? Every story, no matter how terrible the story is, holds two sides. And while human beings are passionate creatures, we do not make all our decisions within the heat of the moment or purely without reason. Everything we do, there's a reason for it. And behind that reason is a cause. It's a simple understanding of cause and effect, something had to prompt something else for an event to happen. How can we ever hope to fully understand the bigger picture when we absolutely refuse to look at the other half, staring at the picture with only one eye open.
Here is an example, they say the meaning of art is subjective from person to person. Yet be that as it may, the artist themself clearly had something in mind, an original emotion or story they wished to convey when creating the piece. How would we ever know what the artist's intended meaning was if we only ever listen to what the public believes, and never the actual artist? One could argue the artists intended purpose doesn't matter, only the effect of the art of the individual and the individual's take matters. But then, I could argue in turn, that is an incredibly arrogant way to think.
I hope I'm making sense here, and you catch my drift. What I'm saying is that we must understand both sides of a conflict in order to truly understand the conflict itself. That is and always will be the only way we'll ever get the full unabated truth, the clear truth without any impurities of personal bias diluting it. That also means we must sometimes unfortunately delve into the mindset of those who we perceive to be monsters, and understand that those who we despise are just like us - human. This is unpleasant for many, that I will not deny. But it's necessary to gain a full understanding. And that is the first reason that I deeply respect you. You are in my mind, the essence of what a historian should be. Not a mouthpiece or vehicle to move one's political belief's further, but a truthseeker.
2) Integrity. What do I mean by that? Well, harkening back to my previous point, in our quest for the truth we will almost definitely discover information that doesn't sit well with other people, or makes them feel uneasy. Not to mention the fact that we are living in an age where "having the wrong opinion" can have dire effects on one's personal life. You know what I mean, people doxxing other people, posting addresses, discovering where they work and attempting to get them fired. Finding out where they live and posting that information publicly for all to see, encouraging others to come "peacefully protest" you. And probably above all else, threats made to not only your livelihood, but your life. In essence, 'cancelling' someone. These are all very real things that can occur in this day and age, people demanding that another's job and means to support themselves be removed because they are saying something they don't like. And we only need to look back to recent events (figures like Gina), to know that the likelihood of success that you actually do get so called "cancelled" is a reality. Because of this, not a lot of people are willing to speak their minds anymore, even if what they have to say is actually the truth. At the very least, they'll speak their minds behinds multiple layers of anonymity to ensure that they are not doxxed for doing so.
Yet not only do you speak your mind, you bring upon people the truth - as unsavory as it may be, yet it is nevertheless the truth - with all the same righteous fury of Uther smiting the undead with the holy light (small nerd reference to WarCraft 3 there, heh). And you don't even mask yourself with anonymity (which is to say, I would still respect you if you did. I completely and utterly understand why many these days wish for their personal identity to remain hidden and separate from their online identity, given how things can get these days). No, you show your opponents your face (while the majority of them remain hidden), and have even made your intents clear. You look your opposition dead in the eye as you lay the truth on them, and I cannot stress enough just how much I respect the hell out of that. I sometimes fear for your (and similar figures who do the same) wellbeing, worried that one day they're going to seek some twisted, misguided form of retribution for openly dismissing their opinions as - well, just that - biased opinions, but you've been doing this safely for long enough that my fear is probably unjustified.
3) Dedication. Your dedication to your craft, and dedication to defending it. Just as integrity ties into honesty, so too does dedication tie into my previous point of integrity. There are many ways you could have chosen to respond to your most recent detractor. Honestly, what many including myself probably would have done, would have been to not pay him attention and just let his comment sit unanswered. However, you actually responded and did so in a fashion which shows him respect (showing your opposition respect seems to be a rare thing these days). Rather than just make a simple comment reply, which would have been enough, you dedicated a full video to addressing his claims, and used your entire video format which takes a conversation into depth to do so.
Think about this for a second. I see UA-camrs do video replies when other UA-camrs criticize them, but never before have I seen someone do a video reply to a single commenter, let alone one whom is not even a patreon/patron. To be honest, this not only shows utter dedication, but respect to your detractors. Not to mention, I've seen some of the comments you've gotten on your other videos, especially the videos regarding A.H.'s socialism, so I know full well that this is a respect that is not often returned back to you in kind.
Final Notes:
Anyways, I know this got long, and at this point some might think it's probably cringey that I just wrote a novel on how much I respect you as an individual, but I did so with reasoning behind it (again, we are creatures of motive, and even the worst/most evil among our species had motive behind their actions, and a reason or cause which led to that motive). I want you to know, that there are many of us who truly appreciate what you do, and that we have someone like you in our community. I shutter to think of it like this, but it's unfortunate truth that the word and title of "historian" has become so watered down that Wikipedia historians are considered "professionals" these days. And with the unfortunate onset of the "culture wars" that began this century, politics has invaded absolutely everything in our lives. From media, to literature, to entertainment, to our jobs, the products we consume, and history. Politics were always present regarding history and historians, yes, it's an inevitable marriage. Yet only recently has it been that I've seen *politically-motivated* history, people using history not as a vehicle to teach history, but as a vehicle to indoctrinate one in politics (whether it be left or right).
Anyways, this post has gone off long enough. This long rambling rant was, I suppose, just my way of saying "thank you". Thank you for doing what you do, and being a beacon of honesty, integrity, and dedication within an environment where it is the opposite which seems to thrive. These three words are something very rarely that can be associated with a UA-camr, and as sad as it is to say nowadays, even a historian.
So, *thank you*.
EDIT 2: The user "Wulf" has to be one of the most disrespectful comments that I've seen, and he just furthers my point that you show your opposition the respect they refuse to return. And that holds integrity in itself.
Wow! Thank you for your comment! It's long, but it's actually something I needed to hear right now. There's so many detractors, criticisms, and false accusations (someone's just accused me of "pandering to the Fastests and neo-Nazis") that it's very disheartening. The threat of being deplatformed is real and that's a worry. But knowing that people appreciate the effort I'm making keeps me going. So thank you!
@@TheImperatorKnight Of course! A comment is the least I can do in thanks, but I wanted to let you know that we're here and we support and appreciate you. A tactic I've often seen the "other side" use is to attempt to shout their opposition down by relentlessly and constantly attacking them to make them think that they're very numerous, and your own supporters are small in number and voice.
I'm here to let you know that's definitely not true, and that we not only deeply appreciate you, but have your back. We *need* more historians and people like you, you're a gem to our community and we can't afford to lose you. Unfortunately, the detractors know this, so they'll try to shut down the opposition. They won't succeed, this is very much a hill I and many others are willing to fight on.
P.S. It's very early in the morning here so I apologize for some of the sloppy grammar of the original comment. I've gone through and cleaned it up now, haha.
Holy shit, get a room😘😉
@@coyote4326 I just ran into this guy. I am the guy that put Adolf on a pedestal. My view was that Adolf was misunderstood, was there to save Germany from the international vultures, and he was attacked for that. And no one really had the in depth knowledge to dispel that thinking in a rational, cogent manner that made perfect sense, and fit in to a larger, and more.....timely framework (reference Klaus Schwaub). Shut Up!!!! Hitler BAD!!!!! didn't impress me. F.U. would be my response. But this guy, step by step, showed me who Adolf Hitler was ideologically, and where he went wrong.....where I couldn't see as well. He does a great service to people who want to know the truth, as his message certainly is pertinent to today. I agree, I love this guy. He respected ME enough to educate me in a fashion that was easy to understand. Your effusive praise of him is warranted, my friend.
This video has aged nicely. There are now several well done AI translated speeches from him. Done with his voice, inflection and passion. When you’re an ordinary American like myself and grow up through school and beyond, you tend to develop the idea that all he ever shouted was “death to the Jews”. So needless to say, the mind job I went through listening to what he was ACTUALLY saying? It left me in a mild, momentary state of shock. I HIGHLY recommend listening to his 1922 speech in Munich at the blah blah burger and beer garden lol. His policies and solutions were horrific. His diagnosis of the problems Germany was facing immediately after WWI was spot on. And I can’t believe I’m even saying this.
But this is how and why he won unanimous support across Germany.
There's a line between being interested by a topic and being fascinated/inspired by it. It's sometimes thin, but it's there. Some people are afraid of studying certain topics, because they consider their own morality, system of values etc. too weak (and oftentimes, pretty detached from reality, which in many aspects can be pretty ambiguous, gray and full of bad people) to not be heavily influenced by an ideology they learn about.
These people will call you a nazi/defending Hitler etc. if you give the slightest hint of not totally criticizing Hitler/nazis in every area possible.
They will do that because they project their own doubts and fears onto you.
Yes, some ideologies may actually sound tempting in certain circumstances. But we can learn how to NOT fall for their traps only by confronting them, and not running away. Because at some point we may no longer keep running.
Also Im one of these people who only started thinking about the "madman Hitler" problem once I watched a few of your videos.
Im not that invested in WWII and it completly flew past me.
Before that I always thought that most! (not all) of Hitlers decisions were the result of him being ... insane? I studied enough history to know that most people who get in positions of power, aren´t insane, but I never really thought much about it ... it was the narrative after all ;)
WHY? WHY ? WHY ? Did Adolf HATE the J+++OO++ws so much ?????????? There must be a reason, was he molested as a boy ?.....
Same
Once an idea enters your brain and takes root, it's hard to chalenge it. We just accept it as true and forget about it/move on with our lives.
@@Baamthe25th Yea especially when its the narrative.
Im living in Germany and most sane people go with "Hitler was evil and mad".
As a kid/young adult who knew next to nothing about any! details, you just go with it since it makes seemingly sense and everyone agrees.
Documentaries dont really oppose that narrative, especially German ones, so even as an adult who studied history, it takes some research to understand why Hitler wasnt a crazy person.
Once you learned how "history works" and how to handle sources and so on, it´s not that hard to figure out but to even get to this point you first need to realize that there is a problem.
Thats why I have to thank TIK.
If you aren´t able to realize there is a problem, you need someone to point you in the right direction.
If you find someone that does this without having any agenda, its worth your gratitude
Allies bombed teh Germans
the Allies lie
obviously..
that had a lame president
and drunkard pasty piggy faced man child PM
sheesh
they ended up losing it all at treaty of SF and now hopeless vassals
His decisions were not always bad either, the history has been corrupted by the surviving German generals and shallow look at the history.
I recently came to the realization that there is no such thing as "irrational thought". Just because YOU don't understand how someone came to a conclusion, doesn't mean that person didn't come to that conclusion out of thin air.
Rational thought is based on the evidence of the senses. Irrational thought is based on rationalizations of evasion.
@@TeaParty1776 Your argument is non sequitur. Using your own definition, you are irrational.
Using your definition, The Theory of Relativity is irrational. Religious beliefs are irrational. Most antiabortion claims are irrational.
But you came to your conclusion using the facts as you interpret them. This IS rational thinking.
@@Roland14d True ideas are abstracted from the evidence of the senses. Your ideas are floating abstractions.
Having one bollock in the Albert hall would drive anyone mad
They separated us from our roots, faith, culture, values, identity and now our common sense. What’s next? Stay golden, folks. I know it’s hard!
This is a bloody concept to be at each other's throats
This is very true. It's also true what Jordan Peterson says that, in most likelihood, if we lived in Germany between 1920 and 1945 we would've been Nazis, Nazi collaborators, or at least do some sort of silent compliance. Most people wouldn't have been against the ideology (at least in the beginning) and if you were against it most wouldn't risk all to oppose it. Yes, there were heroic individuals who did in fact work against Nazism, but they were few and far between. That's the danger of ideology: what seems completely abhorrent to us becomes normalized, and all of us are in danger of becoming that which we denounce as evil. There's evil in all of us.
I just posted the same comment about JBP but you beat me by 27 minutes! Didn't copy, honest.
I just posted the same comment about JBP but you beat me by 27 minutes! Didn't copy, honest.
I don't know if that's necessarily just ideology that would cause the scenario that Peterson outlines. It seems to me that most people will tend towards taking the "easy" path in life. Pushing back against something that you believe to be wrong, in the face of overwhelming acceptance and pressure on you to accept it, is really difficult and disheartening, and while you will certainly see some brave souls stand on their principles to the bitter end (whether outwardly or secretly) most people will tend to just go along with what they believe the majority is pushing.
Either way, that is a very solid point to bring up.
The covid lock downs is a clear example of these behaviors.
@@objective7042 or the rethoric of some politicians against certain groups. I've seen the 'eat the rich" crowd defend people calling for murder of groups deemed as "privileged"
I am really stuck making the same argument about "madman" Putin. Very, very difficult task, man! You have a Fanboy in me on this point, TIK. Not fan of you economic radicalism, but here you are like completely right, so - keep the hard work up!!!
I think that people in the West, often can't get the point "believes in his own propaganda".
Hahaha, good luck. You can't even mention Russia or Putin on Reddit without the hoard rushing in with madman Putin.
Putin is very conservative and measured.
He is not a gambler like.Hitler.
But, when he commits to an action, Putin doesn’t bluff, which is something that the west still needs to learn.
Judea declares war on Germany in 1933
This was a great response video.
I still dont know why people cant comprehend the fact that understanding why Hitler would do what he did does not equal to supporting what he did.
I do!=🌍genpop is willfully obtuse by design,w/programming & propaganda to keep these PODs stepping & fetching in a shape,form & manner expected by 1% that has happening symptom of collective ignorance.Just smart enough to run & fix machine,NOT TAKE IT OVER
When you understand something you can support it. And even the notion that you might be able to support him is shunned.
Many people conclude that Hitler has to have been mad because they can't conceive of a sane person committing such crimes. It's a mistake to assume he was mad. In my view he was fully committed to an evil ideology and his personality rationalized that doing evil was perfectly acceptable to further that ideology.
We punish murderers that we determine to be sane, and thus responsible for their actions. We hospitalize and treat the ones that are "mad" because they're not responsible.
Hitler, like many other characters in history, was EVIL, not mad.
Hate is the most dangerous ideology, it doesnt discrimate between race, gender or species.Its often excused as a virtue in crusades against "bad people", except they are the ones who define who the bad people are.
I think as well the excuse he was mad came from the expression that he was insane for wanting to do what he did, like you said. But no one ever said he was actually clinically insane. It would make no sense
There is also plenty of evidence of evil in his personal life too.
The socialist left does this to this day. The latest craze is supporting cutting the private parts of confused young children in the name of transgenderism. Children to young for advanced algebra and geometry class are considered "mature" decision makers on matters that will impact their hole life. Their lifes and long term harm are secondary to the ideology.
If Hitler was a madman for wanting a German Enpire, what does it say about thr British Empire and French Empire?
I rejected this argument, too. If Hitler was a madman, then he wouldn't have become president of Germany.
Surely the fact that tik believes he was sane makes Hitler even MORE terrifying. It hardly diminishes what he did, in some ways it makes it worse…
Sane villains are always scarier than lunatics. Premeditated malice is always scarier than spontaneous insanity.
It makes hitler more evil. Saying he was insane lets him off easy
Exactly