Further evidence that Hitler’s religion was Gnosticism
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- Опубліковано 10 вер 2024
- In today's video, we're going to take a look at more evidence suggesting that Hitler's religion was Gnosticism. This a follow-up to the previous video "The REAL Religion behind National Socialism" • The REAL Religion behi... where I introduced the idea that National Socialism was a religion, and that religion was a variant of Gnosticism.
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History isn’t as boring as some people think, and my goal is to get people talking about it. I also want to dispel the myths and distortions that ruin our perception of the past by asking a simple question - “But is this really the case?”. I have a 2:1 Degree in History and a passion for early 20th Century conflicts (mainly WW2). I’m therefore approaching this like I would an academic essay. Lots of sources, quotes, references and so on. Only the truth will do.
Many years ago, I wrote a paper at university with the thesis that National Socialism was a religion meant to replace Christianity. The title of that paper: The Crooked Cross.
Hakenkreuz
Can it be accessed? I study and research religious policy and repression under various totalitarian regimes. And one of the episodes of this, was the "Kirchenkampf" in Nazi Germany, aka the Nazi clash and persecution of the Christian Churches...
The Crooked Cross is an excellent name for that paper
@@robertfreid2879 I would like to go have a look and see if I have still a copy. I was a mere undergraduate and I missed the Gnostic angle (I described it more in terms of pagan revivalism-which, I see now, is an inferior thesis). Nevertheless; I’m curious myself how much of what I wrote might inform Tik’s perspective. I’ll have a look as see if I can get it scanned and posted.
The Iron Cross
As long as we understand that Gnosis isn't a codified religious doctrine that needs to be taught or passed on, but rather a philosophy derived from human reasoning and human limitations it makes sense.
People from different backgrounds can independently reason their way into this position without a common thread other than their own nature.
I sort of agree, but we do have evidence of one group of gnostics influencing other people or even breaking away and creating their own branches, so it's not like these individuals are randomly coming to this conclusion.
Wouldn't it be better described as a philosophy built on defiance of reasoning and limitations of the world we see and experience under the premises of escaping "imprisonment"?
Make sense to me. But there is this whole cosmology with Jaldabaoth etc. Still I have the feeling that it Infekts institutions as well as other heresies and ideologies, transform them and poses as them while being something completely different on the inside. Like a virus or mad cow disease.
I think within a gnostic group, it definitely is a specific doctrine that's being shared between believers. However, between various gnostic groups the only common thread is the belief in some esoteric secret that only the group knows - what that secret may be is no more important than what's in the briefcase in Pulp Fiction
@@shangri-la-la-la Some people argue that philosophy is religion, and I'm currently leaning in that direction. I didn't mention it in the video (I intend to in the near future), but there is a book people recommended me called "The Cause of Hitler's Germany" by Peikoff. I'm about half way through and it's absolutely amazing so far. But Peikoff describes it as the philosophy of Platonism, which is basically a religion. He doesn't mention the Gnosticism, but knowing the argument about Gnosticism, I think it enhances Peikoff's argument, and Peikoff enhances my argument too. So I would recommend you and others to check out the book.
In the German language, all nouns begin with a capital letter, so nothing can be concluded from the initial upper case of ‘Creation’ or any other noun.
Is That Why I See People On The Internet Typing Like This!?
@@deriznohappehquite No, they would be typing like this instead. Since it's only Nouns, Names, etc. which we write big. Obviously, the Beginning of a Sentence as well, just like in English.
This is true. TIK has takes this out of context several times.
The translators obviously know this. Why would they then capitalize the word Creation in English? Because they infer from context that Hitler means to communicate the religious capital C creation (probably "Schöpfung"). So it's the opinion of the translator. If the translator is correct, TIK's argument is not defeated by your objection.
@@thulyblu5486: Mine was merely an observation, not an objection, and I wouldn’t think of “defeating” TIK. I believe he’s on the right track.
In my understanding, the Freemasons are also fundamentally Gnostic in religion. Even Luciferian. The Nazi religion is basically the same. Hence the Gnostics also don’t like each other then, apparently. A Freemason, who tried unsuccessfully to recruit me, explained that Freemasons were also persecuted under Nazism. Just trying to understand that more - as they have a lot in common.
Judaism with "chosen people" is just the same too.
I've been to various rabbit holes of hidden information for several years and I've come to conclusion that Hitler and the co. were high degree freemasons.
They "used" many aspects freemasons have been using. For example Gematria. The initials of Heinrich Himmler or "Heil Hitler" are HH = 88 a well known freemasonic number along with 33 ... well, they came to power in 1933...
Hitler himselg shares initials with Hiram Abiff - The legendary hero of Freemasons.
a couple of buildings in Germany built during the Nazi era, have hidden (sometimes not so hidden) twin pillars (boaz & jachin), most notably Olympiastadion in Berlin.
etc etc. many little "coincidences" like these
Anything that seems out of your religious paradigm you’ll call it “Gnostic” heresy. You don’t know what gnosis is
The individual Gnostic sects each seemingly believe that it is their own particular order that is the destined light bearer. The others would likely be seen as imposters.
The Nazis saw Freemasonry as a Jewish conspiracy, so the wrong kind of gnosticism.
I'm glad to know that James Lindsay's arguments are starting to gain traction in the public sphere and others are able to start building off them. Phenomenal stuff here!
Once you see it, you cannot unsee it!
I thought this argument originated with Eric Voegelin
@@BriteRory it did. Lindsay is a plagiarizing hack
@@bradleymarshall5489 Thank you, and thank God there are others out there more well read than the popularity of dudes like this would lead you to believe.
@@BriteRory ya, i think the popularity of people like him, Sam Harris, and Jordan Peterson is a testament to how uneducated Americans are. I was part of it myself but I just kept researching found the real thinkers and escaped
When you set off down this rabbit hole, I hoped that you would go deep. You have not disappointed. Outstanding work, TIK.
This only scratching the surface, TIK didn't (and doesn't have the time too) elaborate on any of the seemingly shocking claims made by the characters being investigated. For example, where do you think they got the idea that Jesus wasn't an Israelite, but in fact a child of a Roman soldier from? I promise you they didn't just make it up and I can point to a very well accepted and valid source (that doesn't mean the source is correct, I'm just saying they didn't make it up, it is a legitimately ancient idea)
@@Alfred5555 The life of Bryan sums it up. Monty Python is the only true source.
@@Alfred5555 Just curious, what is that source?
@@damyr The life of Bryan is not the source, its a very funny film.
@@american_cosmic The Talmud. It is the widest accepted view on the matter. It often refers to Jesus as simply "Pantera" or "Son of Pantera" which is taken from thier opinion that Jesus was in fact the illegitimate child of a Roman soldier named Tiberius Julius Abdes Pantera.
The "pantera" is known to of been a common name for Roman soldiers. Typically vetrans who has ascended the ranks and become a standard bearer whom I'm sure you've seen in movies, the Roman wearing an animal skin ontop of his helmet and shoulders, often a Wolf or Bear, but in Asia was also often a Lion or large cat, hence the name Pantera, meaning Panthera, the cat family.
The Talmud states this to be the truth of the matter, I'm not saying this is true, or that the Talmud has any more idea what it's talking about than the Bible, but the Talmud is accepted as being a 4th century text, so at least as old as the modern biblical canon. I don't know its Hitler got his theory from this source, I imagine he got his theory from other scholars writings one of which most likely at some point would of read this information in the Talmud. I don't know if there are other sources that claim this same theory, I know it is widely known in Jewish tradition so it may have been known in Germany as a folk tale. But this is a legitimate ancient text that explains why and considers Jesus to be, the Son of a Roman soldier. A veteran Roman soldier at that. And get this, Tiberius Julius Abdes Pantera...was real, they have his grave stone, it was discovered in Germany in 1859, it is believed he was born in Lebanon and died in Germany.
Wether he was was the father of God, you tell me. There is apparently good evidence that his legion was almost certainly not in Judea or Galilee at the time of Jesus birth, but maybe that's just to keep the Christians happy. No one said anything about weekend trips out of town, maybe a visiting back home to Lebanon to see his mum, and then a night out just a couple miles down the road in Galilee.
This feels like a stretch. All the evidence provided in favour of your argument seems like you're working backwards. You have a conclusion already, Hitler was a gnostic and hated Christianity, and you're interpreting the evidence in a way that supports your conclusion, even though most of it can be explained in a way that would not support your conclusion if you didn't come in with pre-conceived ideas of what that evidence should lead to. There are some quotes that would be a stretch in the other direction, like how can you explain that without linking it to gnosticism, but those are few.
Also you contradicted yourself when you said the National Socialists hate Christianity because Christ was a Jew (in the last video I believe), and then quoted Hitler himself saying that he thought Christ was not a Jew, and Chamberlain saying that Christ was actually awoken to the true God by an Aryan Nature cult.
It depends on the Nazi. Hitler thought Christianity was an updated Judaism, so he despised it for that reason. However, at the same time, he and Chamberlain said that Christ was Aryan. But Chamberlain had different views to Hitler, so it starts getting complicated, and this is why it's difficult to paint a broad brushstroke (like I did last time) because one Nazi thinks one thing, and another thinks something else.
Explain the context of the evidence then. Sounds like hitler is blatantly dissing Christians and Christianity here.
Gnosticism seems to be defined with quite a broad stroke here. Divine revelation for instance - which was used to justify some of the quotes between the two videos as being gnostic - is a core part of the abrahamic tradition. Gnosis is supposed to be a more intimate form of knowledge, regarding the nature of the highest God (or the highest God possible to have gnosis of; as far as I’m aware, The Pronoia/Berbelo is a being some Gnostics thought/think is not actually the one God but the closest thing a soul can hope to understand). Meanwhile, claims about receiving plain old information about the future or anything else is cheap as chips and made by tonnes of people who don’t seem to believe that their divine spark was ripped from the Fullness of God and trapped in a meat-prison by a sadistic serpent. Still, it was nice to hear TIK’s thoughts
Not only was Jesus not a jew, there was no such thing as the jewish race in his time. The jews led out of Egypt by Moses were of varied descent. What we know of as "jews" today are simply Mongol Turk barbarian stock that adopted the religion centuries later.
He believed in his own will as God's Will, and he was conscious of the separation between his own complex personal beliefs, and what he was proselytizing the German people to. He seemed to believe in a kind of re-theised Nietzscheanism. He saw himself as a Great Man of history, like Napoleon Bonaparte or Frederick the Great; and figures who fill the boots of mythical kings and national heroes who came before, like Frederick Barbarossa or Martin Luther or Odin. He drew on every national-mythical thread to create a cohesive whole, a new idea.
If you look at how other religions were founded, such as Mormonism, it certainly checks out. Nearly all religions have borrowed heavily from prior mythology, because the human brain responds positively to patterns and heavy emotions are drawn from thinking that one understands a cohesive whole.
I agree, Nietzsche was the first thing that came to my mind.
Imagine if Germany had taken Russia as Lebensraum.
@@browngreen933 It probably would have been a disaster.
@@browngreen933 they wouldn’t have. That is all post war propaganda.
I never really realized how well-read Hitler must of been.
Apparently so but reading alone without the discipline of education and critical thinking can lead to false conclusions. In contemporary terms think of a guy doing “research” on the internet.
Hitler was a very open person (in the sense of being interested in aesthetics and ideas) so it's no wonder he would've read Hegel who was a philosophy super star in the 1800s.
Not from my point of view, but then we tend to think much of what we know as being obvious, which is not very fair. However, his not knowing the identity of the “prophet” who could see the promised land from afar off is telling. For the record he’s referring to Moses who was allowed to see the land but not enter (due to his sin in striking the rock). Deuteronomy 34:1-4
There are a few books about his personal libraries. Many of his books were seized and are now held in archives.
Yeah so was Stalin.
If I remember correctly, didn't Hitler prefer islam to christianity and wish that the muslims conquered Europe? Thats not to say he was a muslim, just an alternate angle on his view of christianity
Lets unpack that idea a bit.
Firstly Islam is a universalist religion. Like the Christianity that Hilter, according to this videos argument, rejected it really has no place for racial purity as a guiding principle.
And a consistent theme, as I figure, highlighted in the video is that Hitler profoundly rejected the idea of simple submission to the will of the divine, for the the German Volk stating that only through active strife could the Volk full fill the will of providence.
And also Islam does not remotely embrace the dualism that lies at the heart of Gnosticism?
Yes that's correct. He was also best friends with the mufti of Jerusalem/then Palestine, ie a Muslim country. He had Muslims in his army. I always find it hilarious when people complain about the rapid islamification of Europe, especially the UK, and then say "this would never have happened if the Austrian painter had won the war"... thus betraying their utter ignorance.
All religions have been perverted into irrational representations for the masses (through cult leaders and/or group-consensus) which is why one should become a gnostic. Gnosticism simply means beliefs that are based on personal experience and reasoning. And the selfish human EGO is what the Bible calls "the devil" and "satan" and a host of other terms (the serpent, the beast, the prince of this world, the god of this world, the anti-Christ). So, let's be accurate here. Hitler's religion was SATANISM. But you can call it gnostic satanism if you want. And this is also the religion of the modernday U.S. Trump-publican Party. Elijah has returned in these "end times" as prophesied, and all mysteries have been revealed. Click and ye shall find. (I correspond only via my contact page.)
@@LittleKitty22hey would never have supported the Islamization of Europe, they understood it was a foreign and desert religion of Arabs. Those quotes probably have a context to them we aren’t aware of, because if some of them believe Christianity was Semitic and destructive to Europe, they would have seen that Islam would’ve required the full destruction of European culture as we know it. They admired Islam because it created great warriors and SOME of them saw Christianity as a weakening force.
@@Hispania_45 my thoughts exactly. until people drop off their egos into a bin before printing most uneducated shall remain ignorant.
I'd also like to add that when someone like Hitler or Goebbels is talking about "races" - there's a lot of conceptual polysemy going around. Normal polysemy is when a word has different meanings in different contexts (i.e: "I'm going to play outside." vs. "I'm going to see a play tonight."). Conceptual polysemy does this with the concepts, i.e: "race" meaning one's skin color vs. "race" meaning .
In the Nazi case, influenced by Helena Blavatsky, "races" are a *spiritual* thing. "Aryans" become the "Fourth Root Race" (if you're wondering, according to Blavatsky / theosophy, we're currently in the Fifth Root Race, and apparently Atlanteans are one of the earlier ones, if I'm not misreading the craziness). So, when the average German was hearing "race", they're thinking, well, Germans, and Poles, and Romanians and Jews and so on, but the actual Nazi? They're thinking of all this weird gnostic cult "spiritual race" stuff. How would you get Gunter the farmer to believe the guy at the head of the government is talking about "spirit races"? That'd be nonsense, no one is that crazy, certainly not the leader of Germany! Hegelian Dialectic at work: take two things which are not the same (race defined on biological terms and race defined in the cult 'spiritual race' styling), see them as the same the same in kind, but different in degree, and conflate, conflate, conflate, conflate... until the war ends, and the German citizens tell you they were caught in a spell.
Turns out, they weren't exactly lying.
You're correct. I'll be discussing this sort of thing an upcoming video because I discovered something else that's similar to the "races = spiritual" idea.
Why then were they measuring skulls and trying to find scientific (as in physical instead of metaphysical) evidence for their racial beliefs? Or was that just propaganda for the uninitiated masses?
@@TheImperatorKnight It really depends on which ideology is doing the talking. It seemingly always comes back to the Marxist "species being" definition because it's so amorphous: if deaf people are a species, and fat people are a species, and spiritual races are a species... two guys in a van in Newark who like eating pudding naked can be a 'species', then it just depends on what kind of story you weave around your 'species' as long as it's driven by gnosis. Alexander Dugin has been pushing, if memory serves, a more sociological/ethnicity (cultural based) "race" definition recently, thus "The Russian people".
Sigh. Ignorance really was bliss :) Keep up the fantastic work!
@@shukuffxi Did you Marx saw his writing of Communism as a new world religion? The original title of the first draft of the Manifesto was, "The Communist Confession of Faith", and he and Engels referred to it as a catechism. Hitler was no doubt influenced by Socialism on a spiritual level. Because it's not just "like" a religion, it overtly confesses itself to be a religion.
Wait a minute, is this the origin of himmler trying to extract racial souls from the east
the nag hammadi library litterally was dug up from a 2000 year slumber right after he died. he has nothing to do with gnosticism and you're bad at religious history and are appropriating the mystic tradition for your sophistic ends.
well put
How was gnosticism known by others at the time then?
When I first read ‘even reach Spheres that lie outside the earth’, I had to read it a few times. My original thinking was Hitler wanted the German people to conquer the planet then the universe. I found it absolutely fascinating that it was written so long ago.
When I was young, I was always told,,
"The 4 things you do not discuss, music, religion, politics and tanks!."
Probably economics as well.
So... Should we expect TIK to make videos on music then?
@@Spartan322 and sports
And women
"...earlier in Mein Kamph, Hitler says this: [video cuts to Wayfair and Temu ads]"
I *KNEW* those companies were evil!
Well it makes sense with the theosophist movement and other German movements of the time denying the Jewishness of Jesus and the Jewish origins of Christianity, claiming it was based from European paganism, because they wanted an aryan Jesus to control to their ideology. James crossly from the university of Sheffield has talked about this before
The Jews would deny that.
I mean a lot of Christianity did adopt European pagan holidays and maybe even beliefs. The Druidic faith had a Christos, a virgin mother, a resurrection, and the holidays the church celebrates are all Pagan Holidays… it’s pretty interesting when you look into it. Also there are no descriptions on Jesus’s appearance in the texts and the Pharisees always disliked Jesus because he was of Galilee. Ancient Galilee was a poor town that was a mix of different peoples. He could potentially have been a different race and that’s another reason the Pharisees possibly hated Jesus. Idk I just think it’s interesting how Jesus has been labeled as Jewish when there isn’t sufficient evidence to say he’s either one race or another.
@@riainmcclanahan916 His parents were literally Jewish. Jewish names, Jewish background, lived in a Jewish society. I'd like to know your sources on the Galilee being so mixed; everyone agrees that by Yoshke's (Jesus) time, the Galilee was majority Jewish, with maybe a few stray Greeks here and there. It's very easy to prove Yoshke was Jewish. It's difficult to prove otherwise.
@@ThomasMCGaming where are you getting his parents names from? The Bible? If so then I would argue that the information about Jesus from the Bible has little historical value in terms of its accuracy. The whole Jesus narrative has been completely adulterated by numerous writers. All of the coptic texts are looked at with great scrutiny from biblical scholars.
@Riain McClanahan Even though I'm sure the "New Testament" has been edited many times, that doesn't mean we can't assume information in it is 100% false. Just because it talks about Rome doesn't mean we can't assume Rome existed. Just because it says the sky is blue doesn't mean it can't be. And if you have a source that gives different, and very non-Hebrew names which contradict the NT, you should post it now. The NT is the only place that mentions Yoshke's parents' names. Meanwhile you haven't brought evidence to the contrary, but have only made mere speculation. Until we find names for his parents that contradict the NT Account, we have to assume that their names were Yosef and Miriam.
Aside from that, you have to remember that Christianity first started as one amongst many renegade Jewish heretical sects that split from Judaism near the end of the Second Temple period. Why would *Jewish* authors create a saviour character that *wasn't* Jewish?
Edit: Also, I have a hunch you are severly underestimating the historical value scholars attribute to the NT.
This is rubbish, he was a deist and it is obvious from reading what everyone around him witnessed.
Wow, you are a thorough political journalist. Please, keep up the good work!
Religions tend to be so poorly defined that the only proper non-contradictory way to classify people as members of a religion is by self-identification in my opinion. And unless he had explicitly stated that he is a gnostic I’d say that we shouldn’t classify him as such. It would be fair to say that he believed in something like Gnosticism through.
'Gnosis' literally means 'with knowledge'.
And this is a new one with this never-ending speculation and obsession with this man. Hitler was a part of a cult. It was a cult that likes to play with their own terminology like this as part of its manipulation, and unfortunately this cult is still very much in existence today.
No Tik - sorry you're simply displaying your lack of philosophical and religious knowledge - yes there are gnostic overtones and the generic Prussian anti-Semitic naturalism - but it is also spinozan panentheism and Hegelian geist (spirit of destiny which evolves through dialectic struggle in history) - you're again working on a premise that all this is "gnostic" because you don't understand either Gnostic sources (see voegelin) and the extra sources such as typical pantneism which was a major enlightenment influence e.g. In comtian post revolutionary France.
You're oversimplifying and confusing the Vril culture over to as of Himmler's occult fanaticism. But Hitler 's ramblings are an inchoate amalgam of many ideological sources.
I think that what Voegelin used the word "gnostic" for was a high level concept that both tied the various contradictory strands of historic gnosticism together and provided a viable label for an as-yet-unnamed concept.
Unfortunately, while "reality-negative utopian epistemic elitism" might be a more accurate description, it doesn't roll off the tongue nearly as well. =P
How sml ur pp?
27:43 In German nouns are always capitalized, so you can't read anything into capitalization in German.
Before it is dismissed, we need to see the quote as written in original German. The word used originally will determine if it is capitalized in English or not. It's all in how well the translation was done.
@@tankgirl2074 is so 😊
I would love to see you explore more into the gnosticism and hermeticism that could be at play in other figures. My contention is that these two religions are hidden and woven throughout cultures around the world in massive ways.
Hermeticism isn't a religion, it's a sort of philosophy or or ancient wisdom and set of principles that has been passed down since at-least ancient Egypt. One could argue, it is the Jungian Shadow common to our culture, and to the cultures of nearly all civilizations of the last few thousand years. It is the understanding which spawns cults, religions and movements-- for that reason, it is 'taboo' to discuss. Which is why it has always been shrouded in mystery to the dominant 'culture'.
Grasps of it's principles can be found within the books of Abraham, as well as The New Testament. Hermeticism played a role in the development of both Sethian Gnostic Christianity, and even the 27 canonical books of The Bible, which has obscured them far better than many of the texts of The Nag Hammadi scriptures (for example).
@@Archeidos-Arcana Considering the fact that even the name comes from a Roman god, Hermes, I'd say it'sa religion.
@@Archeidos-Arcana 27 canonical books of the Bible? Books of Abraham? Who told you those things?
@@Archeidos-Arcana Hermeticism deals with the world, God, man, and man's place in the world. It is a religion.
@@Ban_Helmers When I say 27 canonical books, I am referring to the New Testament. When I say the books of Abraham, I am referring to The Torah, or the first five books of The Old Testament.
What told me them? History.
The concept of heresy was first created in the late 2nd century AD by bishop Irenaeus; he commanded much of the church to destroy many variations of the gospels which were appearing all throughout the first and second century.
His successors and fellow bishops continued that practice of controlling the circulating gospels; until the late 4th century AD, when the 27 books of our modern New Testament, were made cannon. This is known as the Nicene Creed.
If you think that's ridiculous or hogwash; why not research it yourself? Nothing I say here is to detract from Christianity. I'm a Christian, and my faith is unmovable-- put your trust in God, not man and his doctrines.
How else will the Christ within us come about once more? It certainly will not when ruled by fear; because Fear begets ignorance. Love begets knowledge. They each beget one another.
18:24 Why? Because he believed in his own destiny. He genuinely believed he had been chosen by the Almighty to lead the German Volk out of its misery and take it to new heights of power. His calling came when he was at the Pasewalk military hospital and heard of Germany's capitulation.* Even before that he had the feeling that he was being protected by supernatural forces, because everybody around him would die in the battles of WWI, but he was spared time after time, which made him think that Providence had big plans for him. There is one particular instance where a voice ordered him to leave the trench at once, and just as he did, a bomb landed inside it, killing everyone.
* Note: It is important to point out that Hitler was being treated at this hospital after suffering from temporary blindness caused by a gas attack, and that it was in this context that he received his calling or revelation. Curiously, Saul of Tarsus, which Hitler thoroughly despised, also suffered from blindness after the Lord appeared to him on the road to Damascus, and this experience set him on an entirely different life course. No one can tell with absolute certainty if these were mental phenomena (hallucinations), if both men had similar supernatural experiences, or if one experienced a true revelation while the other was being guided by dark forces.
"Understand totally by understanding totality." - GOD. All is fated. ("Indeed, even all of the hairs on your head are numbered." - JC) No matter who you are or what you do, you are fulfilling Destiny, which is literally GOD's plan. But this won't make sense to you until you know EXACTLY why you are here, experiencing this realm of limitation. ("I am teaching you to associate misery with the ego and joy with Spirit." - GOD) And that information has finally been revealed.
Gnosticism simply means beliefs that are based on personal experience and reasoning. And the selfish human EGO is what the Bible calls "the devil" and "satan" and a host of other terms (the serpent, the beast, the prince of this world, the god of this world, the anti-Christ). So, let's be accurate here. Hitler's religion was SATANISM. But you can call it gnostic satanism if you want. And this is also the religion of the modernday U.S. Trump-publican Party.
Elijah has returned in these "end times" as prophesied, and all mysteries have been revealed. Click and ye shall find. (I correspond only via my contact page.)
@@tomrhodes1629 Hitler was not a satanist, he was a Christian, and he was not a socialist, but the leader of a right-wing nationalist movement. There are many people like him in the US, many indeed.
Interesting how that little twisted monster considered the fall of the Aryan nations an age of barbarians when the Romans considered the Germanic tribes barbarians. Also the Germans considered themselves highly cultured and advanced but a mere couple thousand years ago they were living in huts and run by chiefs with nothing to show of the advancement close to the Romans. When the Romans had aqua ducts , ships, the city of Rome. And on and on.
You have clearly mixed up theosophy with gnosticism here. Hitler was heavily influenced with Blavatsky as he read The Secret Doctrine and had it by his bedside table.
And what sources did Blavatsky copy from ?
The Corpus Hermeticum is one of them.
Gnosticism is not what Gnostis believe any more than Scientism is what scientists believe. I shall explain. Both these terms imply a common belief system, whereas Scientists and Gnostics very often believe or conclude very different things often based on the same data or observation. An Atheist looks out of his window and sees the wonders of chance and necessity, whereas a Theist looks out of his and sees the wonderous designs of our Divine Creator. But it can not be denied that they are actually seeing the same things. They may also believe themselves to be extremely smart and inciteful. It also cannot be denied that at least one of them is wrong, and possibly both of them are. It also cannot be denied that even if they are both wrong they are both wasting their time looking out of their respective windows as what they personally believe while they are doing so, won't pay the household bills.
I don't really care too much what Hitler believed he saw when he looked out of his window, but I would very much prefer that he had not tried to bomb my parents and grandparents to death or had many of my extended family gassed. I think or at least hope that we can all agree that any God we may wish to believe in, follow, or worship, would take a very dim view indeed of this kind of unpleasant behavior.
I have just completed watching your video on Hitler’s Gnosticism. I thought it was excellent, and like you, I always thought of Hitler as a pagan who invoked God in his speeches for political purposes. Your video convinces me he was a Gnostic and not a Pagan.
However, in your presentation I think you made some errors that need to be corrected. For one thing I believe you confuse the Apocryphon with the Apocrypha, which are two different books. The Apocryphon was a Gnostic book written about 180 AD, at least 80 years after the death of St John the Apostle, and was falsely attributed to him. The Gnostics had a habit of doing this with several second century writing such as the Gospel of Mary and the Gospel of Judas. I have not read the Apocryphon, but I have read all of John’s conical writing (The Gospel of John, his three epistles, and the Apocrypha, aka Book of Revelations) numerous times and nowhere does he claim that Eve had sex with the serpent. In fact, his gospel was among other things a refutation of Gnosticism. In the introduction he made the statement “the Logos was made flesh.” Which opposed the Gnostic belief that Christ was spirit only appearing to be human.
Also, St Paul was no Gnostic, but many of his statements when taken out of context could be misused by the Gnostics. And they probably were.
One aspect of Hitler's religiosity you've missed is his emphasis on works, which can include enlightenment, to earn acceptance by his "God." This also suggests he was not referring to the Christian God, Jesus Christ. Christianity teaches that good works come from faith in Christ's substitutionary (redemptive) work on the cross. Faith in one's good works or gnosis ignores Jesus's death and resurection on behalf of humanity. It renders it moot at best and elevates man above Christ.
My wife just caught a minute of this, from about minute 21, and she was convinced! These Hitler quotes are extremely helpful in putting down the silly belief that Hitler was a Christian.
Nevertheless he used Christianity as a tool to get approval from right wingers. Atheism was banned among SS
He was a gnostic occultist
The greatest man that ever lived. Meanwhile ww2 vets mystery meat great grandkids that hate their white great grandfather; are twerking in front of drag Queens at public libraries... yeah Hitler was definitely the bad guy
Hitler's beliefs and actions are not compatible with the principles of any mainstream religious faith.
Gnosticism is the true Christianity, after the Catholic church's genocide it still endures with good reason
Thank you, TIK for all your herculean efforts to fully disclose the truths found in recorded History. I appreciate your focus, and tenacity. Please stay safe, and well. From your friends of London, Ontario, Canada.
Great video! Interesting parallels, but I do not believe Hitler was full-on gnostic, since it makes more sense to me that he and his worldview were influenced by gnostic writings of Chamberlain. Also when you were listing Hitler's quotes about Germans becoming decent again and returning to the belief in God, he was most certainly referring to Nazis stopping moral decadence and sexual deviancy in Weimar Republic, which was thoroughly documented in a book titled Voluptuous Panic. Nazis were known for burning sexually deviant books like that of Freud and Hirschfeld.
Also, he blames freemasonry and the jews for being behind the war because he believes in the judeo-masonic conspiracy; he believes they are connected. This is in parallel with the "Protocols of the elders of Zion".
At best Hitler was a Gnostic Christian. This video and the last video presents a false dichotomy by painting a Gnostic vs Christian picture when it's really a Christian Gnosticism vs Nicaean Christianity picture.
He also uses the word heresy a lot of but 'heresy' relative to what? In history when we talk about Christian "heresies" of the Middle Ages, they are heresies relative to the Catholic Church or Nicaean Christianity (first ecumenical council) or Chalcedonian Christianity (third ecumenical council). But we're in the modern day and throwing around the word "heresy" automatically means that he's not even attempting to look at religion in an objective manner. He's already gotten his version of "Christianity" and Christian Gnosticism is just Gnosticism to him and therefore not even Christianity, which he keeps reiterating.
NSDAP and Hitler were Christians
@@whendoesitendprove what? Hitler and NSDAP were Christians. All nationalist movements are connected to cultural nationalism from German romanticism. Religion is a central part for all nationalist movements, this being Christianity in its different form. This movement only emerged as a countermovement against Marxism and their philosophical framework against national culture and Christianity. The Bolsheviks promoted all types of sexual immorality, sexual decadence, art decadence and several movements to destroy natural culture, either in Germany, Italy, Spain, Portugal or other communist attempts of takeover either by orthodox Marxists or neo-Marxist/ cultural Marxists
It was a gnosticism of that era, and as James Lindsay has documented Hegel fused one version of gnosticism (the prison model) with (a, or some?) Hermeticism, and rolled it into his particular dialectic. The way I see it it's most likely that Hitler was familiar with the work of Hegel and Marx. And Marx of course had his own dialectically modified Dialectical materialism.
So these things are never 1:1 due to time and differing opinions within what may be perceived as a monolithic Gnosticism and Hermeticism.
But structurally and model wise it sure is the same operating system. It's just that the applications running on this OS can look remarkably different at first glance.
And it's nothing compared to how brilliantly generic Critical Theory is. With that x'th generation cult everything can be "Marxified". I'm personally quite fond of James Lindsay's "Critical Car Theory".
(reposting from your previous video) Corrections 1) The new testament attacks Gnosticism in several passages. Canonical New Testament is consistent with Old Testament (Orthodox Judaism) as opposed to Non-canonical (Gnostic) gospels. 2) Gnostics misinterpret Paul and Jhon but clearly Paul and Jhon attacked Gnosticism 3) Catholicism clearly has some gnostic ideas to this day which explains why they persecuted jews for centuries. (However all of these is not easy to distinguish given the parasitic nature of Gnosticism) 4) The origin of Gnosticism is in Babylon but probably a form of it today is Budism (depending how broad is your definition) 5) Puritans were not Gnostic, they were orthodox Christians. Do not confuse Strong Christian faith / dogmatism and strong morals with Gnosticism. Puritans founded Harvard and promoted Science, clearly not gnosticism 6) Modern Science comes from orthodox Christian/Jew/Biblical principles and both are the perfect antagonists/antidote to Gnosticism in all its modern forms (Nazism, Marxism, Woke)
Hitler followed Blavatsky and Theosophy. His concept of race was the theosophical root race concept. He believed atlantean was a race as well. When hitler said Aryan - he didnt mean it as a non-theosophist would. Hitler's gnosticism was Blavatskyan Gnosticism which was more of a syncretic global buffet mish mash of religions - not just a Christian gnosticism
And Blavatska was Slavic.
gnosticism was the first christianity and one that the pope wanted stamped out
Where exactly did you learn that Gnosticism was the first Christianity? In the Bible? Where?
The first Christianity was the Christianity of the Apostles, who directly criticized the early gnostics in the New Testament itself.
Every pope that dealt with gnosticism wanted it stamped out because the belief that mankind can make a better world than God consistently ends with piles of corpses.
@@ikkinwithattitude the Gnostics dont want create a heavenly kingdom on earth because they believe the truth home of humans is the spirit world
@@Robotdoge01 That they're looking to bring about a spiritual rather than material utopia doesn't change the more fundamental underlying motivation of, "God messed up -- we can do better."
@@ikkinwithattitudethat is exactly what Satanism is, only disguised.
Himmler was definitely a Dungeons & Dragons fan in middle school
He was a classical chud.
this video and part 1 were unbelievably interesting - would love to see more if you have any more information on the topic in the future.
I love when an ad comes in at the perfect time. "Hitler said...Stop over paying for sunglasses" huh?
A read of the Old Testament makes it easy to understand why some people might conclude that the OT Yaweh god to be a demonic homicidal maniac.
Well it's simple, Christian Gnostics reject the old testament while they believe in new testament.
Mainly because OG god was a total pos.
Indeed, if people read the books of the Old Testament as containing only that approved by God, or other modern reading of a very ancient text written for an ancient reader.
Yes, one who is wise will admit to himself that it is impossible to completely reconcile the GOD of the Old Testament with the GOD of Jesus Christ - which is the True GOD. And there's a Go(o)d reason for that, as I explain in my books.
Gnosticism simply means beliefs that are based on personal experience and reasoning. And the selfish human EGO is what the Bible calls "the devil" and "satan" and a host of other terms (the serpent, the beast, the prince of this world, the god of this world, the anti-Christ). So, let's be accurate here. Hitler's religion was SATANISM. But you can call it gnostic satanism if you want. And this is also the religion of the modernday U.S. Trump-publican Party.
Elijah has returned in these "end times" as prophesied, and all mysteries have been revealed. Click and ye shall find. (I correspond only via my contact page.)
@@tomrhodes1629 Personal experience and reasoning= egoism therefore Satan. Nice try ya tool.
it only took three comments for an uneducated religious opinion to turn into a breeding ground for a schizophrenic spammer's ramblings
good job youtube
BUT? If Gnosticism are people using their power wrong who are the opposite of them, that cares about other people in a balanced way.
Thank you for the content you provide. I find it baffling that such a recent event such as WW2 appears to be more obfuscated and difficult to find answers about that make sense than very ancient history. But i suppose that is the nature of controversial topics. You do a great job and provide valuable insight
I don’t think the reason it’s obfuscated is because it’s controversial, I believe it’s obfuscated because they need the masses in our nation to only know the narrative of the events that serves their goals. Hitler speaks about race as much and as forcefully as those who identify as Js. Hitler is a globalist whose alleged events provided the basis and excuse for a religious group to obtain an entire country …in which case….isn’t it more likely that they are obfuscating that Hitler and that religious entity behind that new country worked for the same goal - to obtain the entire world.
I don't know about that, due to the influence of Christianity, when you try to research ancient Canaan, you pretty much just get the Bible being used as the one and only historical source, despite it obviously not being a historical source, and having been proven explicitly wrong on many historical accounts.
Much of ancient history is a good as the mythology, its just lacking the monsters and gods. Unless you think Julius Caesar was 100% truthful when he wrote his own history of his own conquest of Gaul.
In Ancient history, the issue is usually lack of information. The problem with modern history is a glut of false information.
Interesting perspectives, thank you, in general it's more of a perceived feeling i have than a fact, ww2 feels like theres much less of an agreement of what actually happened in comparison, despite there being people still alive who were there at the time
@@yanmew I do agree with your sentiment, I only just said the same thing myself to my father the other day while watching the coronation "Often we can be more sure of ancient history than modern history, because all the lies of the ancient history have settled down and we can at least look for truth, but with the modern history the people who created the lies are still alive and still bloody lying." 😂
But what I said of ancient history is still true. Much of ancient history is almost certainly just made up and never happened, almost all of it didn't happen in the way that the historical record has survived, but the dates and names and general locations are probabaly the closest to the truth. The best thing we can see from ancient history, is at least what was going through the minds of the people who wrote the history, not whether it was true or not. In this sense History is both an art and a science, if you don't have a good poetic sense about you (an ability to sus out when people are lying, and make logical and truthful dicernments), you'll learn nothing and just read nonsense other people have written down.
Which is very much what you are finding happens with ww2 history.
At the time that Hitler was growing up, the Germans called their head of state "the All Highest" including with that capitalization. German academia had a rich culture of gnostic mysticism which was amplified by being invaded by the supposed representative of Enlightenment Reason in the person of Napoleon Bonaparte.
All nouns are capitalized in German. Even in English honorifics are often capitalized, e.t. Her Majesty, Your Highness, Your Honor etc.
@@D.S.handle the words "All Highest" are also significant
You mean the German equivalent of "Your Highness" , the appellation expected for use with UK Monarchs.
@@alsoascot02 Not equivalent. The ultimate superlative of "your highness". Something usually reserved for a deity at the top of the deity pyramid.
@@TreeLuvBurdpu what is the German term you are referring too? Highness is an (absurd) titular superlative widely used in English.
If i had a nickel for every time a man named Chamberlain enabled Hitler i would have 2 nickels, which isn't much, but it's wwird that it happenned twice
Having discovered these just recently, I find them interesting. I shall slowly catch up. Thank-you.
Fascinating. I hope you do more on this. Thank you Tik
How would Hitler have known about Gnosticism? The Nag Hammadi library wasn't discovered until 1945. There were some anti-heretiical texts before that but it was pretty limited.
The same could be asked of Helena Blavatsky, or the Free Masons. How did they discover Gnosticism prior to 1945?
As I showed in the Aryan Religion video, we have a lot of evidence of an occult heritage that culminated in the Thule Society and then the Nazi Party. So it's highly probable that they got this stuff from previous groups of Gnostics.
they are catholics
Guess what: religious ideas are hard codes into reality. Even if people don't have access, the variables of life and death are still the same, so of course people come up with Gnosticism around the early age of Christianity (Christianity is not gnosticism! Gnosticism is a heresy in Christian eyes) and today
thanks tik for your series on this! you are teaching things that i would have not thought of until i watched your videos, keep up the excellent work!
It sounds really weird when you pronounce 'volk' that way, your pronounciation sounds like the German/Dutch word for cloud. Try pronouncing the 'v' as an 'f', please
so it's basically Orthodox Judaism reversed
Not sure, the basic idea of gnosticism was to overcome matter and join the pure spirit above the World and Necessity created by the Demiurge. The idea of a Paradise on Earth isn't quite gnostic.
Richard Weikart's excellent 2017 book, "Hitler's Religion: The Twisted Beliefs that Drove the Third Reich", goes excellently into detail about Hitler's religious beliefs and Nazi religious policy toward the Churches in general. Written partially as a result of New Atheism-Christian debates in the 2000s and 2010s amid cheap-shots about Christianity and atheism/evolution/materialism lobbed by each side. The book is a great addition to the study of the Kirchenkampf (Nazi policy toward Christianity and the Churches).
Thanks for the recommendation! I have already got that book on my reading list, and it is a priority. People have recommended so many books that it's going to take me months to get through them!
@@TheImperatorKnight Definitely!
@@TheImperatorKnight do a twitch stream while you read all those books. 😂
@@TheImperatorKnight In this book you will learn that he was NOT a gnosticist, he was a pantheist, he does not think that nature is inherently evil, he thinks nature is god... and that alignes pretty well with darwinism and evolutionary ethics, gnosticism on the other hand doesn't
I suggested this exact book on the previous video about this topic! It's an excellent book, and I recommend it. I really appreciate how Weikart debunked claims about Hitler being Catholic/Christian and provided evidence to show that Hitler (and many of the Nazis) can be best described as a _völkisch_ pantheist.
Does the fact that the primary source of our modern knowledge of Gnosticism, only comes from the Nag Hammadi library that was discovered in 1945 after Hitler was dead, not altogether disprove this theory of any kind of active Gnosticism on Hitler's part?
Perhaps pseudo-Gnosticism, organically interpreted and reconstructed by volkists, historians and theosophists based on Biblical critique and what ancient mentions of Gnosticism survived? It seems he really just has a very different interpretation of Christianity and the Christian god, he believes in that god and it's faith, but he thinks Christians have been doing it wrong for 2000 years, the same way the very basis of Christianity is that Jesus thought the Pharisees had been doing it wrong for 2000 years, no?
Also, I think TIK (and most people, myself included for further study) severely needs to read the bible to learn about the concept and philosophy of "God's chosen" within the Judaeo-Christian paradigm. If TIK actually wants legitimate criticism this is what I would say; read the Bible, not in a religious sense, but in a critical sense with the proper historical context in mind (remember as far as we know there is no evidence of the Biblical story having existed before 300BC at the earliest, more likely 1st to 2nd century BC, when Judah Maccabee founds the Kingdom of Judea in revolt against the Seleucid Empire).
I don't know how much TIK feels he knows about theology, philosophy, or the Bible, but for me I felt this video was like watching a bull in a philosophical china shop. (Not a metaphorical china shop, a china shop wherein the bone china is made of philosophy, and theology).
If you can't predict the weather, then you can't predict a thousand year reich.
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Actually, anti-materialism is at the centre of the majority of Earth’s religions, even Catholicism, for what is a monk but a man who chooses to eschew earthly pleasures in order to draw closer to God? As to whose is the ‘most materialistic religion’, I shan’t attempt to judge, as I am insufficiently educated in the intricacies of the beliefs of all world religions. I know a lot about several forms of Hinduism and Buddhism, and I possess a more-than-passing knowledge of Catholic and Protestant Christianity.
Not the same. Gnosticism is talking about the entire material world not just wealth. Gnostics literally believe everything material is evil because we live in prison
TIK simply continues to impress
Thank you for your efforts
Gnosticism isn't a religion. It's the basis FOR religion. It is part of ALL religion. To experience gnosis is the ONLY way to know. Newton was a gnostic and the falling apple was a gnostic experience
Thats revelation not gnosis.
Revelation can be religious or just stroke of luck/genius.
Gnosis is Gnosis, crackpot as it is.
What your describing is a belief in determinism.
@@finlaymcdiarmid5832 No what I am describing is my direct experience. I have experienced gnosis and I am not guessing. I'm telling...
@@operationaltactics1006 How is your experience like ?
@@midnightblue3285 It was very crazy. It was like having two separate realities running simultaneously. I got a ton of factual information from it though.
@@operationaltactics1006 That is right, there are realties behind and inside the realities,
What else do you remember ?
01:01 Where does this "heaven on earth" thing come from? And that a select brotherhood of Gnostics could create it? Are there ancient Gnostic writings that describe this?
Yeah I’m curious what gnostic texts he’s getting his information from. His term of Gnostic seems way too broad and does that tradition a lot of injustice. Hitler was into the Occult. I doubt they had a clear understanding of their beliefs amongst each other in the Nazi higher ups. As someone who studies the occult and the esoteric, there’s a lot of extrapolation in this video that makes his arguments not so convincing. He’s making arguments from the smallest amount of research and from a narrow perspective.
Hitler started out as an altar boy where he became fascinated by the swastika carved above the altar. So he started asking questions which religion it came from and found a Gnostic connection. Either way, nazism has religious rather than atheist roots. Great research Tik!
Start with the wikipedia article on theosophical "root race" to understand Hitler's concept of race. It wasnt even his concept - he was a Theosophist - he was in the wizard's circle of Helena Blavatsky.
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. Could it be that natsoc was a counter ideology to communism that it tried to counter it on the same level, this esotheric level? Like he sees the gnosticism on the other side, portray it to the jews and then thinks he needs to battle it on the spiritual level and thats why it became what it became?
This is really bad. You don't seem to have any understanding of what Gnosticism is other than being vaguely mystical and anti-materialist. Traditional Gnosticism focuses on esoteric spiritual enlightenment and transcending the material world, starkly contrasting with Nazi emphasis on racial purity, political domination, and material conquest. While both ideologies use dualistic motifs, the core purposes and practices of Nazism and Gnosticism are fundamentally different.
Influence and adaptation is the key word here. Karl Marx wasn't a Gnostic or even a Hegelian in the truest sense, but he did use negationial dialectics to fight Capitalism in the sense of negating the real outside of us (Property.) and the real inside of us (Our consciousness; be this consciousness individual or collective.) and forming a synthesis of this dichotomy for his advancement of his ideals of the commune and humanity's progress outside the binding elements of the outside reality of Capitalism that rule over us and our lives, and to take more control in inwards communion and the efforts of our labor over the commodity of money and materials in general and in that commodity. This sounds very Gnostic in a subtle way, but not in the escaping from the Demiurge and destroying this World to unite with God and Sophia and the Sun with Gnosis and Joy, like Samael Weor believed, kind of way. Hitler and the Nazis "Gnosticism" is more similar to Marx and the Communists view, fellow contemporaries, rather than antiquity or medieval Gnostic by-and-by beliefs.
I think I would say that Hitler's religion was not Gnosticism, rather that he built his religion on the foundation of Gnosticism and used what fit in with the rest of his ideological ideas/religion.
Edit: to add an analogy it is like the prophet Muhammad taking the ancient Jewish texts and creating Islam from them. Based on the same source material but completely different in many respects.
Good point, in his first video TIK makes a similar point and states that he doesn't have a name so he will use Gnosticism. He also states that for this analyze he is defining it as the root religion for all the branches, and actually gives the example of Judaism, Islam, and Christianity all being the Abrahamic religions. So when he says Gnosticism it's in the same level of description as Abrahamic, which he should have restated here.
Gnosticism simply means beliefs that are based on personal experience and reasoning. And the selfish human EGO is what the Bible calls "the devil" and "satan" and a host of other terms (the serpent, the beast, the prince of this world, the god of this world, the anti-Christ). So, let's be accurate here. Hitler's religion was SATANISM. But you can call it gnostic satanism if you want. And this is also the religion of the modernday U.S. Trump-publican Party.
Elijah has returned in these "end times" as prophesied, and all mysteries have been revealed. Click and ye shall find. (I correspond only via my contact page.)
As an Orthodox Christian thank you Tik God bless you
"The Bible tells us to be like God, and then on page after page it describes God as a mass murderer. This may be the single most important key to the political behavior of Western Civilization." --Robert Anton Wilson
Yes, a misunderstanding of GOD is the cause of all human problems. Because, the false god that many people worship is actually SATAN: the selfish human EGO. Gnosticism simply means beliefs that are based on personal experience and reasoning. And the selfish human EGO is what the Bible calls "the devil" and "satan" and a host of other terms (the serpent, the beast, the prince of this world, the god of this world, the anti-Christ). So, let's be accurate here. Hitler's religion was SATANISM. But you can call it gnostic satanism if you want. And this is also the religion of the modernday U.S. Trump-publican Party.
Elijah has returned in these "end times" as prophesied, and all mysteries have been revealed. Click and ye shall find. (I correspond only via my contact page.)
As someone who understands this theme i can say that the Nazis were strongly influenced by Protestantism. Hitler himself, who came from a Catholic family, praised the Protestant religion more. He even believed that the Catholic Church in Austria worked for the Slavs and not for the Germans. This is the principle of the Prussian Junkers and their loyalty to the state, king and discipline. In general, Protestantism has greatly influenced various racist systems in the world throughout history. For example, the segregationist southern states in America. They were all Protestant. Apartheid South Africa, which was made up of Boers who were also Protestant.
It's interesting because a lot of poeple would say it was the other way round. Perhaps he favoured one over the other if he had to pick, but as I explain in the video, he's dismissive of both. He's not a fan of Christianity overall.
This is due to the idea of “Sola Scripture” the idea that only the Bible matters and anyone can interpret it how they please. The catholic has always been against slavery. Fun fact, a confederate diplomat asked the pope (for whatever weird reason) to support the confederacy and the Pope responded only if they abolished slavery.
@@TheImperatorKnight That’s true and to support what this comment is saying when you look at the German election maps. The mainly Protestant north voted for hitler while the catholic south didn’t.
@Mingoro Ballo the catholics always against slavery ? Dream on and also the most racist white people that I have come across in life tend to be Catholic or Orthodox Christians .
Do not forget Hitler was involved deeply into studying esoteric occult mystery doctrines and theology which is very demonic and very deceitful and influences people.
The occult has many brands and many philosophies and doctrines which are at the end of the day lawless and wicked.
In Yahuah Elohim's eyes in the Bible they are abominations and lead people astray and he has warned his people identifying what they are and rebuke them.
Hitler's occult concepts and theology is but another small part of the whole Mystery Babylon occult body. They are evil and deserve to be rejected and rebuked righteously.
So far, what you're saying tracks with what I have been reading in "The Occult Roots of Nazism" by Nicholas Goodrick-Clark. I'd love to see more on this topic, including possible counter arguments. Good stuff, sir. 👍
His 3 books are the most academic level works out there on the topic.
Gnosticism isn't of the occult though 🤷♀️
Why study ignorance when you can have true knowledge? ("The Book of GOD" can be read in only 5 minutes, but will give you an education that you couldn't get from an entire library of books.) Gnosticism simply means beliefs that are based on personal experience and reasoning. And the selfish human EGO is what the Bible calls "the devil" and "satan" and a host of other terms (the serpent, the beast, the prince of this world, the god of this world, the anti-Christ). So, let's be accurate here. Hitler's religion was SATANISM. But you can call it gnostic satanism if you want. And this is also the religion of the modernday U.S. Trump-publican Party. Elijah has returned in these "end times" as prophesied, and all mysteries have been revealed. Click and ye shall find. (I correspond only via my contact page.)
“Planes of existence”, makes me think of man in high castle
Philip K. Dick was a Gnostic (probably).
I'm just a layman, so take this with a grain of salt. Having looked I to gnosticism and it's teachings(out of curiosity) I find that Hitler's beliefs more resembled theocracy (which is a form of gnosticism imho) the whole Aryan shit and Jesus not being a Jew and providence, are direct links to theocracy. And if there are people that don't think Hitler was not religious hasn't put enough effort into the story. He sought the acceptance of the church and disowned the church at the same time. Just my two very cheap cents from hobby historian 😊. Really good vid man, subbed
You are sadly misinformed about Gnosis. No being practicing true Gnosis would ever call themselves a Gnostic.
I only got as far as 1:15 when I realised this.
This is not an attack on you or whatever you believe. I sincerely hope you find the truth out there, if you hold that desire in your heart, it will find you, then you will discover Gnosis.
I though the same.
I havent checked this but could gnostiscm have anything to do with Zoroastrianism i remember zoroastrianism being about the struggle of good and bad.
Yes there is a connection in that they are both cosmological dualistic. The middle link would be Manichaeism and perhaps Marcionite Christians
It's amazing to be that such a well known and influencial figure's ideas and motives aren't crystal clear by now.. I mean it's not like Hitler lived 1000 years ago and there has to be a bunch of guesswork done. This should be well documented and should have been studied in depth right after the war.
It's almost like OTHER far-left gnostics have spent 80 yrs covering it up...
Its because the people who was sent to investigate and study this events after the fact werent there to find what was true or factual but to cover the behind of their respective ideas or philosophies least their oponents found some correlation to them
We’ve been only given the version of events that they needed us to believe
It is because Americans are involved. They are only capable to understand and act upon Donald Duck style narratives about an evil Dictator who wants war and eats babies for breakfast, they currently draw the same picture of president Putin. The fact that within three years after the end of WW2 they needed endless billions to arm themselves against the same opponent Hitler was waging war on, may also have required a simplified explanation.
@erik149 you are embarrassing yourself.
18:11 "It cant be propaganda, because he was allready in power at this time." Didnt knew dictators stopp using propaganda and only tell what they 100% belive, once they establish their power.
I have heard that Hitler loved the philosophy of Arthur Schopenhauer, who developed a metaphysical theory that life was mostly horrible because we are always being tormented by The Will, a powerful force that drives us to seek a satisfaction we can never find. Schopenhauer thought we could transend the evil power of the will by properly understanding our dilemma. This could be called similar to gnosticism, because gaining the correct knowledge of the universe allows you to escape the power of the world that is always torturing us.
The way you try and put on a gruff voice is amusing.
Nothing you said was compelling, in fact it seems like you have no idea what Gnosticism entails.
It's essentially mysticism where someone believes they are part of a spiritual elite, a chosen selection whom have inherited divine immortal souls, amongst human-shaped animals... does that sound familiar to any of you? They believe through gnosis, these souls may liberate themselves from the demiurge's systems of control, which include his soulless animals & puppets. Thus it is salvation & apotheosis through knowledge.
I want you all to watch the Matrix, because that truly is Gnostic at it's core, and it certainly wasn't Nazis that made it.
The truth is Kabbalah is inherently Gnostic... and that's not something the OP would be willing to discuss. Kabbalah is rife through the dominant international regime and major influencers like Hollywood.
Rather than being gnostic, a recognition of truths regarding nature, even if they're harsh, is in the same spirit as Germanic Paganism.
You may call Hitler "heretical" and maybe even incompatible with Christianity entirely... but I don't understand the "he was a gnostic" angle, when, as you've displayed here, there's no evidence for it.
These assertions you make regarding the 'true meaning' behind cherry-picked quotes are worse than what a schizo would come up with.
@TIKhistory
While I hear what you're saying, I'm struggling to fully grasp the idea. In your last video you discussed how the 'demiurge' created the material world- according to the Gnostics- and that it was not the true embodiment of our 'spiritual' selves. They thought that, correct me at any time if I'm wrong, we must 'transcend' the material realm of the 'fake' God to reach the realm of the 'true' God; the natural order was seen as the 'false' manifestation of the 'untrue demiurge'- the 'fake' God. Therefore, how can this view by Gnostics be reconciled with AH deriving his racism deriving from the 'inequality of nature'? Surely these two views are incompatible, no? If AH, on the one hand, says in Mein Kampf that: "the inner segregation of the species of all living beings on this earth" can be ascertained even with "the most superficial observation" of nature, how can this make him, on the other hand, a gnostic who scorns natural life as 'untrue'?
My apologies if this turns out to be a silly question. You're doing a fantastic job with these types of videos; they're extremely interesting! I can't even begin to imagine how hard you must be working...
You ask good questions. The line of reasoning in these videos is as confused as AH was. It would be more convincing to argue he was a Tibetan Buddhist than a gnostic but both claims would be ridiculous. He was a lunatic, a psychopathic megalomaniac. His ideas were not ordered enough to derive coherent philosophy from and these efforts are slanderous of philosophical traditions that in no way shape or form correspond to nazi gibberish.
Very interesting question.
But it prompts the question, did AH believe the 'inequality of nature' favored aryans? If so then he would be over selling the threat against aryans getting wiped out and civilization with it. Why would he need to be given a mission from god to wipe out something that natural selection was taking care of?
But if he though nature instead favored the Jews, then calling for unity against them is a revolt against nature. The demiurge stacked the world against us with it's racism thus justifying our racism kind of thinking.
Either way it requires us interpreting what he said and assuming a lot, because fortunately none of us here think like AH.
Maybe TIK is a BS artist.
I would love to hear your take on the influence of Theosophical schools of thought on the Nazi ideology,particularly Blavatsky and Crowley.
How about a true prophet of GOD's take on these subjects? Would that suffice? Theosophy was correct in many areas, but intellectualizing corrupts true concepts. And Blavatsky overly-intellectualized to a degree that made simple truths seem complex and out of reach. Crowley, on the other hand, not only overly-intellectualized, but also took the irrational fork in the road that takes one the opposite direction of Truth. If you want pure unadulterated Truth, it only takes 5 minutes to read "The Book of GOD" at no cost, just a click away. As for Gnosticism, this simply means beliefs that are based on personal experience and reasoning. And the selfish human EGO is what the Bible calls "the devil" and "satan" and a host of other terms (the serpent, the beast, the prince of this world, the god of this world, the anti-Christ). So, let's be accurate here. Hitler's religion was SATANISM. But you can call it gnostic satanism if you want. And this is also the religion of the modernday U.S. Trump-publican Party. Elijah has returned in these "end times" as prophesied, and all mysteries have been revealed. Click and ye shall find. (I correspond only via my contact page.)
If you haven't already, look up Ariosophy and the Order of the Black Sun. This was a weird mix between pagan themes, cabbala, alchemy and what not and was basically the secret "pagan" cult of the nazi elite, although I remember reading somewhere that Hitler himself wasn't much of a fan of the cult. I believe it was led by Himmler
Blavatsky was Jewish and Crowley may have been also.
Well, this was really interesting. I had no idea that Gnosticism even existed before I discovered your channel.
I am an academic in the field of comparative religions. Apart from a couple of mistakes here and there your video was SPOT ON!!! Excellent work!!!
Care to point out those mistakes? No matter how small, it would be nice to see what was overlooked.
What little mistakes were there?
mother worship=paganism/empiricism/agnosticism. father worship=gnosticism. child worship=universalism/true christianity.
Otto Rahn was definitely on a gnostic quest for the Grail
"The Holy Grail is Found," and I authored a book with that title. And yes, it was found through gnosticism. Gnosticism simply means beliefs that are based on personal experience and reasoning. And the selfish human EGO is what the Bible calls "the devil" and "satan" and a host of other terms (the serpent, the beast, the prince of this world, the god of this world, the anti-Christ). So, let's be accurate here. Hitler's religion was SATANISM. But you can call it gnostic satanism if you want. And this is also the religion of the modernday U.S. Trump-publican Party.
Elijah has returned in these "end times" as prophesied, and all mysteries have been revealed. Click and ye shall find. (I correspond only via my contact page.)
This is going to be one hell of a interesting series, can’t wait!
Loving this series! Do you plan on making a video about the Thule Society?
Just receiving knowledge from a higher power is not special to Gnosticism. However the revalation of hidden knowledge thats not meant for everyone to hear IS.
Aren’t all nouns capitalized in German?
IMO this argument doesn't really hold any water. Gnosticism is/are a historical Christianities. It's not a separate religion with a separate God. Also early Gnostic writers were deeply indebted to Paul specifically. The main criticism of exoteric Judaism, which you find in Gnostic writings, is that of skewering people who commit violence in God's name. Early Gnostic writings were also scathing attacks on Roman power, Roman imperialism, and Roman rape culture. I doubt many of these critiques would find a home in Hitler's brain. Also I don't think your comparison of Jews being "materialistic," is a workable comparison to Gnostic matter/spirit duality. This is a recognition of the impermanent and flawed nature of physical reality, in which is scattered the hidden divinity of God. This not an attack on people who are wealthy.
When you say "Hitler is a Gnostic", are you saying, his ideology just has similarities to the ideology with the made up term Gnosticism without him when when being aware of this? If so, what is even the point of defining Gnosticism? Or do you suggest, he is aware he is a Gnostic and even was influenced by other Gnostics who were aware they were Gnostics? If so, is there proof?
I doubt it.
I expect Hitler would deny being a Gnostic if questioned.
His peculiar religion owes more to extreme nationalism and social Darwinism than to Gnosticism as normally defined.
His thinking probably owes more to Spinoza then any Gnostic.
I think he's more tackling the "Is Hitler Christian or Pagan" topic and giving his view/evidence.
Man, I chuckled when he read providence in a religious sense, instead of it being a fancy word for destiny.
Having gone down the gnostic rabbit hole in my younger years, this makes a lot of sense. I've enjoyed this series. Keep it up.
It's a long and strange rabbit hole for sure
LOL do you really think TIK is the first person to see a thing and screech OH GOD THAT'S GNOSTICISM.
@@MadmanMcNabb your point being?
@@MadmanMcNabb Cope.
When you get to the bottom, you will be grounded.
There is only 1 real world and it never really changes much
This is great! Look forward to the next videos.
He was actually a pagan savage.
I think saying he was consciously a gnostic, is rather a stretch.
It's clear he wasn't a full atheist, and obviously wasn't a Christian, but I suspect most of his religious rhetoric was just that, a rhetoric.
He's view of Germans/Nordics/Aryans being a "chosen race" and others being metaphysically inferior strangely mirrors the views of Talmud on Jews. He definitely saw religion as subservient to the state, and just a part of propaganda.
I agree Goodman, a conclusion I've come to over the many years of delving into the histories on all Germandom-- profane, esoteric or otherwise. A fountain of rabbitholes those Holy Romans do indeed shed. ;)
As a born again Christian I'm familiar with gnosticism and find it strange that it can be controversial and new to people
This is so ironic coming from a protestant.
@@floridaman318 not really when when you know on this pebble I will build my bolder
@@floridaman318true. Some Protestants even believe in gnostic ideas.
@@floridaman318 We've been fighting the Gnostics for a long time, John the Apostle does it in 1 and 2 John, but sometimes those who claim the name of Jesus, who are still condemned, subscribe to Gnostic doctrine which discerns them from the faith for which they are condemned for. The original concept of the Gnostic religion that Gnosticism comes from is called Dualism.
Gnosticism has been a cancer upon Christianity since the beginning
Nothing has changed
I watched the first video yesterday and was thinking about it whilst on a walk and had to share something.
I used to be in a very hardline Irish Republican political party. They essentially treat "The Irish Republic" not just as a political goal but very similar to the idea of "The Truth".
The claim the Republic was declared and honoured in blood during the 1916 rising and as such is still in existence today. Any person or organisation that does anything to undermine this is a traitors. They don't recognise the Irish/Northern Irish/British parliaments as legitimate, they despise Sinn Fein for looking for peace and recently got rid of the vice president because he said it was wrong to use violence at present.
They didn't care what ordinary people thought. Would'nt allow members who got arrested to recognise the authority of Irish courts. And their whole political philosophy is "Everything will work out when we have The Republic".
You also have 3 strands competing for control of the movement. Traditional Nationalist Catholics, Far Left/Marxists and basically Enlightenment Republicans.
To be clear im left the party a very long time thankfully. But that video really got me thinking.
A side note I would argue that the gnostics stole and bastardized Christian thought. But this topic is complex enough.
Really thoughtfull content.
Just a small correction there.. you are a Christian if you accept Jesus as you Lord and saviour.. not just believing in God necessarily.. as that would also include Jews
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First of all I think this is your most important contribution outside of the detailed analysis of Stalingrad. So please stay with it. But I think it is not quite correct to refer to gnosticism as a religion. It is something like Taoism. Not really a religion but more of a philosophy that can change how you look at any particular religion or really all religion. It's not a complete religion by itself. But the ideas are very ancient and resonate through all human cultures really.
I heard a Free Mason say basically the same thing. But rather it be philosophy or ethics, it just seems like a "build your own religion" kit.
Imagine 2 custom PCs, all the parts come from different manufactures, but they are all the same parts with the same purposes. Anyone could look at it and say that is a PC, one type of computer.
But then take 2 macs, they are pre-built, with an authority deciding which parts they will both use. Even though macs are made with all the same parts with app the same purposes as a PC, someone that knows there stuff could look past the symbols and point out which is mac, and which is PC.
The mac is like the Christianity, it comes in different models, but they are all still macs. Gnosticism is the PC. Just like both are computers, I would argue both are religions.
Tik your gnostic rabbit hole has been so revealing it is almost scary
So he didn’t like materialism but had lavish homes, specially made Mercedes and then called Russians ‘sun-human’ who then beat his country in a war.
The man was a hypocrite and a loser.
TIK, on your previous video about this topic, I gave a lengthy rebbuttal to your characterisation of Hitler as a gnostic. That you have doubled down on this argument in this video shows me that you have probably not read my argument, so I will present it once more below. But first I must say, I am highly concerned by the potential these videos have to mislead people about 'gnosticism'. As somebody who had studied intensly this confusing and technical subject, it troubles me to see it brandished on a thumbnail and then characterised in such loose terms within the video, in association with a villian like Hitler of all people.
Hitler's statement 'But we do not belong to those who comfortably rely on the hereafter.', which you quoted at 12:28, is perhaps the most anti-gnostic statement one could utter, and yet you include it in a video arguing that Hitler is a gnostic. Gnosticism and Christianty are in fact very similar religions and the current scholarly consensus is that Gnosticism in fact grew out of Christianity. One similarity between them has to do with faith in the afterlife, and in fact Gnostics, even more than Christians, place all their 'comfort' in the 'hereafter,' since they believe that every aspect of the present world is illusory except for the Divine Spark, which is eternal. This, and other statements in this video shows me that you have not done the sort of thorough research into this topic that you are usually known for. The arguments you present through most of this video seem too loose to justify the conclusion you are so prominently advertising in the title of this video. At other times your argument is quite absurd, such as 24:08. I agree that Hitler was not an atheist, Christian, Muslim or Buddhist, but to conclude that 'we are only really left with gnosticism or hermeticism' is completely ridiculous, as though there aren't numerous permutations of religious belief beyond those which you have examined.
Again, I am very troubled by these videos for the way a pacifistic religious school like gnosticism is being tarnished by unwarranted association with Hitler. I am a long time viewer of yours and I have reccomended your content to numerous people, and so I worry that these two videos will undermine the otherwise highly reliable content you have produced.
MY COMMENT ON ORIGINAL VIDEO:
TIK, I have watched your videos for years and I consider you to be one of, if not the best WWII historians on UA-cam. This video is the first of yours that I disagree with quite strongly.
20th century military history and religious studies are my two favourite topics to research, and it just so happens that Nazism and Gnosticism are both areas in which I am particularly well read.
I could provide you with a point-by-point response to this video, but due to the time it would take I will only do this if you ask for it. To summarise though, whilst I certainly agree that National Socialism, like Marxism, could be conceptualised as a ‘religion’ I disagree that this religion should be conceptualised as a kind of ‘Gnosticism’.
The main reason has to do with the material/spiritual distinction. Whilst your explanation of this distinction is accurate, I do not think you have drawn the right conclusions as it relates to National Socialism.
A reading of Gnostic scriptures, be they found in the Nag Hammadi Library, the Cathar texts, the Manichean texts or some other source, reveals a consistent rejection of the material world for the sake of the spiritual realm. The pursuit of material goods is seen as a distraction or trap created by the demiurge to keep the soul from escaping to the pleroma.
From the perspective of Gnosticism, therefore, National Socialism is very clearly ‘materialistic’:
Gnostics teach that this world is illusory, and the spirit realm of the afterlife is all that matters. Their conception of ‘spirit’ is very different to that of the Nazis and ‘Actual Idealists’ more generally who, by contrast, are preoccupied with the present life and the need for action and the ‘will-to-victory’ within it. Gnostics look at the world and say, in essence, ‘Let us pray and grow spiritually and God will take care of us in the afterlife.’ The Nazis look at the world and say ‘if we want victory, we must fight for it ourselves, and the ends will justify the means.’ The Gnostic ‘spirit’ is emphasised for its role in the afterlife, whilst the Nazi ‘spirit’ is emphasised for its role in the present.
Gnostics teach against sex and procreation, for this is believed to perpetuate the soul’s entrapment in matter. By contrast, the Nazis advocated procreation (of the Volk) as a way to ensure the continuation and eventual dominance of their race on Earth.
Gnostics teach pacifism, on the basis that violence is driven my materialist passions implanted in humanity by the demiurge and his archons (see the accounts of Abel’s murder by Cain in the Nag Hammadi, especially in ‘The Hypostasis of the Archons’). By contrast, the Nazis advocate a violent, racial struggle based (from what I can tell) on a warped interpretation of Darwin’s ‘survival of the fittest’ and Nietzsche’s concepts of ‘Übermensch’ and ‘der Wille zur Macht’.
Gnostics teach that the desire for material possessions such as land and wealth, is illusory and based on archontic passions like greed. Such things are deemed irrelevant given the world to come; mere shadows compared to light of the Pleroma. By contrast, the Nazis advocated the accumulation of land and material wealth for the ‘Volk’ through the conquest of ‘Lebensraum’ and the supposedly hyper-efficient system of National Socialist production. Adding to this point, the Nazi leadership themselves amassed huge private fortunes and estates through theft. This differs greatly from the Gnostics and especially their leaders. Be it those of antiquity or the ‘Perfecti’ of the Cathars and Manicheans, these people by all accounts lived essentially monastic lifestyles, being without possessions and abstaining from violence of any kind, be it against animals or humans. In this sense, Gnosticism has far more in common with monastic Christianity or Buddhism than anything the Nazis were doing or preaching.
TIK, I must once more say that I have immense respect for your work, and I know from statements you have made many times in your videos that you are not afraid to be proven wrong or to change your mind. If you read the Nag Hammadi library, which is perhaps the most clearly ‘Gnostic’ collection of texts we have, I would be very surprised if you were to still maintain the conclusions you have drawn in this video. Once you have closely read the NHL, Cathar texts or any other ‘Gnostic’ scriptures, I’m sure you will agree with me that a Gnostic would laugh at the Nazis and their concepts of ‘Blut und Boden’ as the ultimate entrapment by the demiurge, on the view that both race and land are material illusions created by the demiurge to distract from the spiritual realm of the Pleroma.
Is the National Socialist ‘religion’ esoteric? Yes, but that does not make it ‘Gnostic’. There are many more things I could say but I shall leave it here.