¡Me encanta! Quizás algunos no estén preparados para oírla, pero a los que nos gusta la música contemporánea disfrutamos mucho esta obra. Deberíais oírla dos veces, ¡mejora con la escucha!
This is amazing! The music is so strange and surreal but beautiful too. To me it is the noise of emotions stirring and reflexes working in a very dream-like wilderness... Sorry if that sounds odd, its just that the music is so sharp and abstract but completely glorious! Parts of it sound so frantic...I wonder what the music is about, or what the idea was when it was written...Also, these guys are TALENTED. Their concentration, precision and passion never cease to amaze.
Senor Juan: Try Morton Gould, Penderecki, Revol Bunin, Telemann, Bartok, Sophia Gubaidulina, Walter Piston, William Walton, the Vaughn Williams Suite, Max Bruch Concerto for Clarinet, viola and orch.,Weber:Andante and Rondo Hongoise, Cecil Forsyth. There are lots more, both classic and modern. That should get you started. Enjoy
I forgot Paul hindemith. He was a violist, among many other things. Listen to his Kammermusik No.5, and the Suite "Der Schwanendreher", and his Trauermusik, a beautiful,short work, in memory of King George V
Senor Juan, Me again. Look also for concertos by Alfred Hill, Schnittke, Miklos Rosza (famous composer of film scores) John Harbison and Hilding Rosenberg (a fine composer, Swedish or Danish, I think) Take care.
This is a technique known as "sul tasto". It gives a quieter, whispier sound than playing close to the bridge. xXLeafXNinjaXx is right about it sounding flute-like :) As always you've got to remember to vary the pressure from the index finger of your right hand, depending on where abouts on the string you're bowing. Sul tasto is mainly used in orchestral playing, I can't actually think of very many more famous solo pieces that use it... Hope this helped :)
I was surprised to find so much negative notes about the pieces modern sound since, to me, it sounds rather traditional, but it might be that haters of modern music already know the most notorious modernists and avoid them but aren't aware of Gubaidulina. I find the recurring string theme very pleasant and easy to compherend, like the objective surroundings such as buildings, nature etc., of a person and his thoughts, the viola solo, which is more subjective and ambigous in nature.
Have you heard John Williams' concertos, though? He has one for Violin, one for Clarinet, and one for bassoon, and I assure you, they are a. nothing like his movie music, and b. phenomenal. Knowing those concertos, I can imagine comparing him with Gubaidulina. If you only know his movie music, no. He has two distinct sides, though.
I remember buying a Gubaidulina cd back in 2003 or so, curious about what classical music by a woman would sound like. I was slightly bored and couldn't get into it. Trying it again ten years later, I couldn't believe it was the same music. It hit me like hell.
@@Steinbach1984 I had a similar experience, she was one of the first "atonal" composers I've heard and I thought it was pure garbage, years later I rediscovered her work and found it outstanding
@@ezequielstepanenko3229 Well, in a certain way the hard avant-garde of Boulez and Stockhausen is easier, because it has a rigid structure and the structure /is/ the meaning. Gubaidulina's music must be felt subjectively like romantic music, which requires a solid experience in listening to atonal music.
"Bless you , my son." he said for all the world looking like a humble monk in brown frock and sandals bowing slightly from the waist and marking the sign of peace.
Don't forget to mention that very contemporary composers like to ask for quarter tones in some of their pieces. That makes the intonation sound more off to the normal ear, but it's what the composer wants.
Amazing! Its so hard to play the viola and to master vibrato can just bewilder someone's mind thats how hard us viola players work so its just rude to say its boring.
Bashmet is wonderful, and so Is Kam ... You should hear Kam play the Bartok! You're only 14? You look so much older. Perhaps in a few years we will hear you play it as well?
although he said he doesn't use gut on one of his interviews (apperently gut strings cannot carry the viola sound enough over the top of an orchestra) but...i use pirastro passione strings (which are gut)....the c, g and d sound so much like his strings its untrue!
Looks like he's trying to end up sul ponticello .. which is that sound in l'hiver Vivaldi. I've noticed it's easier to achive on some instruments over others. You have to get real near the bridge and maybe a little on top of it sometimes. Spine tingling, no? The end is not the only place in the piece he "went there."
lol, yeah. I think the C and G are either Thomastik Spirocore, or Red label... the colour for D and A suggest the Chorda pirastro gut string, but they look metal wound...
The highest D's are not supposed to be D's...they're SUPPosed to be a half-step higher...listen to the percussion and the concertmaster, they play the same intervals (seconds) after Yuri does, so you can't say that about his intonation, he's amazing. Just look at all the stuff he's done in the past. Listen to his Shostakovich Concerto album! Listen to his Schubert Sonata! You play a modern work like this or like Penderecki Cadenza, and tell me how easy it is!
Я тоже люблю иногда на музыкальных инструментах просто извлекать звуки и брать немыслимые аккорды, но представлять это как шедевр в мире музыки мне и в голову не придет. Губайдулина - это музыкант-оформитель, ей цены не будет в мире кинематографа. Но это не музыкальные шедевры, это даже не музыка - это звуки. Но Башмет и здесь гениален!
You're insane if you think Nigel Kennedy plays ANYTHING better than William Primrose. I have never listened to Lawrence Power though, so if his interpretation really is great, then you should post it. I heard some short samples of him playing it, and I didn't really like what I heard (he had a slow vibrato and somewhat of a generic sound), but it wasn't enough for me to make an accurate judgment, so you should definitely post it.
I like it, it's pure emotional expression of fear and confusion ,growing anger . The only thing i don't like is the viola solos which i find take away from the piece as a whole when the orchestra is enchanting when it plays.
I can respect others' opinions as to the sometimes idiosyncratic tone of Gubaidulina's music, but there's a fine line that needs to be walked between artistic criticism and uninformed disparagement.
i wish i knew!!!! all i know is that they are not gut and the c, g are have red silk, but the d,a have yellow/orange....but i spose u probs already knew that lol.
chromebumper I understand it was a commission as are 90% or more of orchestral compositions however further research reveals Gubaidulina did indeed compose the piece both to honor Bashmet and also to pay tribute to the beauty of the Viola.
I wasn't trying to diminish Gubaidulina. The concert that night in Chicago was Stravinski's Firebird and the then unknown to me, Guibaidulina and her concerto. I had lived in Chicago at one time, but had long since moved to San Francisco. Whenever I was in Chicago, I got tickets to here the Chicago Symphony for obvious reasons. It didn't matter to me what they were performing; I was there on business and would hear what fate sent my way. I am not a big Stravinsky fan, however that performance of the Firebird influenced me positively. The second half was the new Gubaidulina Viola Concerto. I loved it. I later read that as a student of Shostakovich, Shostakovich had said something to the affect of, "Sophia you have wondered down a mistaken road, but by all means, continue on."
I have no trouble believing the composer when she said she always lives in pain. This is truly painful sound from a tortured mind. Of course, if the listener is out of touch with his emotions, he can get off on the music and never recognize the pain -- which might be a good working definition of masochism.
It's preposterous to pair up Gubaidulina with the likes of williams, I know you tried to make an apologetical argument, but couldn't you use any other composer? take Arvo Pärt for instance.
¡Me encanta! Quizás algunos no estén preparados para oírla, pero a los que nos gusta la música contemporánea disfrutamos mucho esta obra. Deberíais oírla dos veces, ¡mejora con la escucha!
This is amazing! The music is so strange and surreal but beautiful too. To me it is the noise of emotions stirring and reflexes working in a very dream-like wilderness... Sorry if that sounds odd, its just that the music is so sharp and abstract but completely glorious! Parts of it sound so frantic...I wonder what the music is about, or what the idea was when it was written...Also, these guys are TALENTED. Their concentration, precision and passion never cease to amaze.
Absolutely riveting. Great music, brilliant playing. Thank you!
it's amazing in so many ways !!! thumbs up of you play the viola !!!
This is composing and performing at its finest. Genius...
allways filled with harmonies... modern harmonies... beautiful! :,)
Thank you, great playing.
Bashmet's instrument is fantastic, as well as his musician qualities...
it such a guttural and primal sound at times it's fantastic.
the viola is to gutsy!
jealous of testore viola.
:)
This would be the perfect soundtrack to a horror movie :) Violas are the best instrument out there. There's no competition!
Great composer !
Thanks a lot
This is not garbage, it us very interesting.
You are TOTALLY RIGHT. It is just to complex to LITE REHEARSAL.
Gubaidulina is the Greatest Master.
Very nicely edited video, and good recording.
Gubaidulina does love her chimes, bells, celestes and whatnot.
love the percurssion (specially the crotales)!
This is just amazing. If you guys could recommend me more concerts for viola like this, please hit me up.
Penderecki, Schnittke, Toru Takemitsu, Ken Ueno
Senor Juan: Try Morton Gould, Penderecki, Revol Bunin, Telemann, Bartok, Sophia Gubaidulina, Walter Piston, William Walton, the Vaughn Williams Suite, Max Bruch Concerto for Clarinet, viola and orch.,Weber:Andante and Rondo Hongoise, Cecil Forsyth. There are lots more, both classic and modern. That should get you started. Enjoy
I forgot Paul hindemith. He was a violist, among many other things. Listen to his Kammermusik No.5, and the Suite "Der Schwanendreher", and his Trauermusik, a beautiful,short work, in memory of King George V
Senor Juan, Me again. Look also for concertos by Alfred Hill, Schnittke, Miklos Rosza (famous composer of film scores) John Harbison and Hilding Rosenberg (a fine composer, Swedish or Danish, I think) Take care.
Bartok
This is a technique known as "sul tasto". It gives a quieter, whispier sound than playing close to the bridge. xXLeafXNinjaXx is right about it sounding flute-like :) As always you've got to remember to vary the pressure from the index finger of your right hand, depending on where abouts on the string you're bowing. Sul tasto is mainly used in orchestral playing, I can't actually think of very many more famous solo pieces that use it... Hope this helped :)
you are great my friend
this is unbelievable. bashmet's richness in vibrato is astounding.
awesome left hand articulation
The power in the pinky is incredible!
MARAVILLOSA MÚSICA!
this is amazing. whoa.
I was surprised to find so much negative notes about the pieces modern sound since, to me, it sounds rather traditional, but it might be that haters of modern music already know the most notorious modernists and avoid them but aren't aware of Gubaidulina.
I find the recurring string theme very pleasant and easy to compherend, like the objective surroundings such as buildings, nature etc., of a person and his thoughts, the viola solo, which is more subjective and ambigous in nature.
I love the part at the very end where the bow moves slowly from over the fingerboard down to the bridge... love that ponticello trill!
beautiful!!
very nice:) I expected sth more atonal and I'm positively surprised.
Really fascinating. It seems like she's starting this one the same as the Offertorium, with small intervals gradually opening to larger.
Beautiful!~
Brilliant!
wow, this piece gives me chills O_O, though it was really good, and the orchestra was really nice.
Have you heard John Williams' concertos, though?
He has one for Violin, one for Clarinet, and one for bassoon, and I assure you, they are a. nothing like his movie music, and b. phenomenal. Knowing those concertos, I can imagine comparing him with Gubaidulina. If you only know his movie music, no. He has two distinct sides, though.
Amazing!
incredible
Yuri keeps on rockin that Viola!
Gubaidulina is an acquired taste, but everyone who calls this "garbage" or "horrible" should seriously reconsider their involvement in classical music
I remember buying a Gubaidulina cd back in 2003 or so, curious about what classical music by a woman would sound like. I was slightly bored and couldn't get into it. Trying it again ten years later, I couldn't believe it was the same music. It hit me like hell.
@@Steinbach1984 I had a similar experience, she was one of the first "atonal" composers I've heard and I thought it was pure garbage, years later I rediscovered her work and found it outstanding
@@ezequielstepanenko3229 Well, in a certain way the hard avant-garde of Boulez and Stockhausen is easier, because it has a rigid structure and the structure /is/ the meaning. Gubaidulina's music must be felt subjectively like romantic music, which requires a solid experience in listening to atonal music.
look for Mikhail Kugel on youtube, he won 1st prize in Budapest Competition when Bashmet was 2nd...
Awesome.
"Bless you , my son." he said for all the world looking like a humble monk in brown frock and sandals bowing slightly from the waist and marking the sign of peace.
I take back what I said over a year ago, this piece rocks
Don't forget to mention that very contemporary composers like to ask for quarter tones in some of their pieces. That makes the intonation sound more off to the normal ear, but it's what the composer wants.
FANTASTIK!!!
Are you kidding or something? The title of the piece is right in the title of the video...AND the description below the video.
Totally agree. Gobaidulina is an excelent composer, a true artist. Williams is also a good composer, but he prefers to make movies music.
Amazing!
Its so hard to play the viola and to master vibrato can just bewilder someone's mind thats how hard us viola players work so its just rude to say its boring.
I like it, it's not a "diarrhoea" of notes. Only a certain type of person would get it though - its not your average piece.
and listening to good classical music written by men.
awesome
Bashmet is wonderful, and so Is Kam ... You should hear Kam play the Bartok! You're only 14? You look so much older. Perhaps in a few years we will hear you play it as well?
I agree. I like viola's way more then violins.
pretty cool
couldn't agree more ajdicks. though a fantastic viola sound from bashmet of course.
i absolutely agree
The conductor is Semyon Bychkov, not sure which orchestra it is( not a UK one anyway)
God!!! He es great!!!!
I know this is random, but why do I prefer the shape of a violin/viola, compared to a cello?
never heard of her before, thats the reason for my senseless comment^^
strange piece .. and there s a bass flute too, it has to be more modern than i expected
what sense does that even make?
and @ confession81; who's comment are you talking about?
although he said he doesn't use gut on one of his interviews (apperently gut strings cannot carry the viola sound enough over the top of an orchestra) but...i use pirastro passione strings (which are gut)....the c, g and d sound so much like his strings its untrue!
Looks like he's trying to end up sul ponticello .. which is that sound in l'hiver Vivaldi. I've noticed it's easier to achive on some instruments over others. You have to get real near the bridge and maybe a little on top of it sometimes. Spine tingling, no? The end is not the only place in the piece he "went there."
yay!
ka zing, ka zang.
Well put.
Octaves. How thrilling.
lol, yeah. I think the C and G are either Thomastik Spirocore, or Red label... the colour for D and A suggest the Chorda pirastro gut string, but they look metal wound...
does anyone know how i can get the music for the solo?
yes, the music.
awesome! but who is directing?
Lol yeah right, most people who hear solo viola for the first time exclaim "wow, that sounds so much nicer than violin!"
I am a viola player myself. I do not think it is boring, but that the entire composition is just missing something.
This is not music. These is a LANGUAGE OF MUSICAL FORMS; it is MORE COMPLEX AND CONCENTRATED.
me too i would die to own it!
Violas rock the orchestra!!!!Woo Hoo!!!lol!
Absolutely intentional. :)
woo.. there's a bass flute!
The highest D's are not supposed to be D's...they're SUPPosed to be a half-step higher...listen to the percussion and the concertmaster, they play the same intervals (seconds) after Yuri does, so you can't say that about his intonation, he's amazing. Just look at all the stuff he's done in the past. Listen to his Shostakovich Concerto album! Listen to his Schubert Sonata! You play a modern work like this or like Penderecki Cadenza, and tell me how easy it is!
Я тоже люблю иногда на музыкальных инструментах просто извлекать звуки и брать немыслимые аккорды, но представлять это как шедевр в мире музыки мне и в голову не придет. Губайдулина - это музыкант-оформитель, ей цены не будет в мире кинематографа. Но это не музыкальные шедевры, это даже не музыка - это звуки.
Но Башмет и здесь гениален!
You're insane if you think Nigel Kennedy plays ANYTHING better than William Primrose. I have never listened to Lawrence Power though, so if his interpretation really is great, then you should post it. I heard some short samples of him playing it, and I didn't really like what I heard (he had a slow vibrato and somewhat of a generic sound), but it wasn't enough for me to make an accurate judgment, so you should definitely post it.
I like it, it's pure emotional expression of fear and confusion ,growing anger . The only thing i don't like is the viola solos which i find take away from the piece as a whole when the orchestra is enchanting when it plays.
Interesting...
This piece made my ears hurt!
is that a cello bow?
what you honestly think ori kam could play this piece (or any for that matter) as good as bashmet????!?!?!
just listen to it, little notes played
What strings does Bashmet use?
Its not my cup of tea, but I can see this being used in a horror film. Its very difficult to successfully play a piece that isn't rhythmically normal.
I can respect others' opinions as to the sometimes idiosyncratic tone of Gubaidulina's music, but there's a fine line that needs to be walked between artistic criticism and uninformed disparagement.
i wish i knew!!!! all i know is that they are not gut and the c, g are have red silk, but the d,a have yellow/orange....but i spose u probs already knew that lol.
@classicPLUScontempo
Why so strange about Kazakhstan?
Gubaidulina such as Shnitke are most brilliant classic composers of our time. Close your eyes, and you are placed in Nirvana...
Did Gubaidulina compose this for Bashmet?
It was commissioned by the Chicago Symphony. I was at the premier performance.
chromebumper I understand it was a commission as are 90% or more of orchestral compositions however further research reveals Gubaidulina did indeed compose the piece both to honor Bashmet and also to pay tribute to the beauty of the Viola.
I wasn't trying to diminish Gubaidulina. The concert that night in Chicago was Stravinski's Firebird and the then unknown to me, Guibaidulina and her concerto.
I had lived in Chicago at one time, but had long since moved to San Francisco. Whenever I was in Chicago, I got tickets to here the Chicago Symphony for obvious reasons. It didn't matter to me what they were performing; I was there on business and would hear what fate sent my way. I am not a big Stravinsky fan, however that performance of the Firebird influenced me positively.
The second half was the new Gubaidulina Viola Concerto. I loved it. I later read that as a student of Shostakovich, Shostakovich had said something to the affect of, "Sophia you have wondered down a mistaken road, but by all means, continue on."
chromebumper
Makes me wonder what the audience thought of it... :P Very creepy piece.
Lol. Don't u think that Bashmet's viola has an unusual shape? (compared to most violas).
I can only agree with Goethe6000. ;)
I have no trouble believing the composer when she said she always lives in pain. This is truly painful sound from a tortured mind. Of course, if the listener is out of touch with his emotions, he can get off on the music and never recognize the pain -- which might be a good working definition of masochism.
you didn't expect gubaidulina to be modern, then...
this concerto mvt sounds kinda scary. i feel that i'm in a cave and a bat could fly toward me anytime. lol, interesting. it's good though
It's preposterous to pair up Gubaidulina with the likes of williams, I know you tried to make an apologetical argument, but couldn't you use any other composer? take Arvo Pärt for instance.
im not a real fan of gubaidulinas music.. i think its not very listenable, but yuri bashmet is great here.
fresh and yummy
i think an alto flute